The Philosopher’s Stone Created Aurelius Dumbledore [Harry Potter Theory]

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  • @SuperCarlinBrothers
    @SuperCarlinBrothers  4 роки тому +2469

    This explains EVERYTHING right!??

  • @almostirrelevant9181
    @almostirrelevant9181 4 роки тому +3043

    I’ll be honest, that made a lot more sense than I thought it would.

    • @lahlybird895
      @lahlybird895 4 роки тому +58

      that is the usual reaction to a crazy SCB theory

    • @MiaNena545
      @MiaNena545 4 роки тому +3

      Same

    • @patrickjinks
      @patrickjinks 4 роки тому +11

      Welcome to the channel ;)

    • @Marcilla_Fae
      @Marcilla_Fae 4 роки тому +3

      Aspen Hansen I know right

    • @AndyHappyGuy
      @AndyHappyGuy 4 роки тому +6

      credence's aunt who died during the shipwreck: am i a joke to you?

  • @kerahbundy5705
    @kerahbundy5705 4 роки тому +2033

    When he said "Ariana means silver. Aurelius means gold." I lost my mind.

    • @victoriabryer4710
      @victoriabryer4710 4 роки тому +34

      Me reading this comment as J says it 😆

    • @geekweek9673
      @geekweek9673 4 роки тому +91

      I was like: “Wow. They used the stone to metaphorically turn silver into gold.”

    • @ninjabluefyre3815
      @ninjabluefyre3815 4 роки тому +24

      Is that why Ariana from Pokemon was called that, because she was in Gold and Silver?

    • @Zakofidea
      @Zakofidea 4 роки тому +102

      @@nadiategeneva3232 "The name Aurelius is a boy's name of Latin origin meaning "the golden one". ... In ancient Roman history, the name is associated with Marcus Aurelius, a Roman Emperor from 161 to 180 AD, the last of the so-called "Five Good Emperors." He is also considered one of the most important Stoic philosophers."
      And it took a minute to find on google, but the meaning of Ariana in Old English is apparently Silver. I however do appreciate your comment because it did make me look it up instead of just taking their word for it.

    • @Zakofidea
      @Zakofidea 4 роки тому +32

      @@nadiategeneva3232 Thats probably true. I searched for the name meaning for Ariana rather than Silver in other languages, because names are usually only related to the words and not direct translations. Here is what I found. Probably not the best source, but I can see how they found it. Meaning and Origin of Ariana - FamilyEducation
      Girl name origins & meanings. Hebrew : Like a beautiful melody; Old English : Silver; Greek : Holy. Girl name variations. Aari · Aarie · Aariel · Aaries · Aree · Arey.

  • @kg5999
    @kg5999 4 роки тому +854

    I'm cracking up though at just the thought of Flamel and Dumbledore standing there with a baby and low-key panicking.

    • @goatplaysguitar
      @goatplaysguitar 3 роки тому +27

      Lol this deserves more likes

    • @PR7-82
      @PR7-82 3 роки тому +6

      @@goatplaysguitar it's currently at 380 and 2021 isn't over yet

    • @squxde
      @squxde 3 роки тому +5

      @@PR7-82 410

    • @squxde
      @squxde 3 роки тому +5

      @@PR7-82 411

    • @jupitateo8094
      @jupitateo8094 2 роки тому +4

      545

  • @themoldysausage
    @themoldysausage 4 роки тому +3177

    J.K. Rowling: Writes plot point that makes no sense
    Carlin brothers: Let me fix that for you.

    • @MadiganinPeach
      @MadiganinPeach 4 роки тому +51

      Couldn't have said it better.

    • @vicospiano
      @vicospiano 4 роки тому +28

      Haha i felt the exact same. really really loved that theory, the only thing that i'm curious about is how did Grindelwald realise that Credence was Aurelius?
      And if he can see the future, wouldn't he have been able to tell much earlier that Aurelius had not died in the shipwreck and then wouldn't he have gone looking for him much sooner?

    • @sarahglover3286
      @sarahglover3286 4 роки тому +3

      Yep!

    • @lijunyin1341
      @lijunyin1341 4 роки тому +3

      True

    • @shreyasiroy3579
      @shreyasiroy3579 4 роки тому +36

      They should be paid for moping up the plot points..😂😂😂

  • @SeamusGorman4
    @SeamusGorman4 4 роки тому +3639

    this is the best theory I’ve seen in a LONG TIME

    • @naomi_falk
      @naomi_falk 4 роки тому +54

      Hi Seamus! I loved your last video! I don't know if this means anything to you, but I think your hair looks great.

    • @LightsOnTrees
      @LightsOnTrees 4 роки тому +37

      It's the guy with short hair from the chanel about the thing! Agree v. good work on this one.

    • @MEG4nerd
      @MEG4nerd 4 роки тому +52

      I can't like this comment because it doesn't have a table

    • @NatsuDragneel-nv6qm
      @NatsuDragneel-nv6qm 4 роки тому +9

      Oof Seamus

    • @Saandy_
      @Saandy_ 4 роки тому +14

      It really is great. Now I feel spoiled.

  • @diablo595
    @diablo595 Рік тому +39

    Love how people on the internet casually make better stories then the writers that do this for a living. There’s no way that something this smart and creative will be real.

    • @Rakotino
      @Rakotino Рік тому +2

      Yeah you are so right hahaha. I think its because if this theory was true and they put it in the movie people would complain and syaing its to complicated.

  • @jasperpotter5410
    @jasperpotter5410 4 роки тому +617

    the producers of fantastic beasts: "write that down! write that down!"

    • @berengustav7714
      @berengustav7714 4 роки тому +11

      Yeah yeah yeah!"

    • @stephenbrady5220
      @stephenbrady5220 4 роки тому

      Beren OfNumenor Because money?

    • @diyaamber1738
      @diyaamber1738 4 роки тому +1

      Charles the French?

    • @liongirl1693
      @liongirl1693 4 роки тому +4

      More like “Write that down! Write that down and we might be able to repair the failure of the second movie!!

    • @jasperpotter5410
      @jasperpotter5410 4 роки тому

      @@liongirl1693 honestly 😂😂

  • @22pepperjack
    @22pepperjack 4 роки тому +812

    I’m really hoping this ends up being canon and that the stone gets used in the last movie as the primary plot device. Would make a perfect “I open at the close” moment for the movies.

    • @akhileshgarg9660
      @akhileshgarg9660 4 роки тому +40

      I open at the close.... If this turns out to be true, I'll scream it at the theater while watching the last movie.😂😂

    • @5amdaman
      @5amdaman 4 роки тому +16

      The resurrection stone (1 of 3 hallows) to which you are referring is not the same stone as the philosophers stone. So not sure what your plot point is aiming for.

    • @22pepperjack
      @22pepperjack 4 роки тому +19

      Sam Da Man sorry, I didn’t make it quite clear what I meant. I’m simply refereeing to the thematic elements spread across the entire first trilogy in regards to that phrase. Take the first and last words in the movies being spoken by “albus” in one form or another most see this as a subtle “I open at the close” and that loose nod to that phrase is what I’m referring to. As it would be another great link to the story that started it all of the story that ended it all focused on the same object.

    • @munjee2
      @munjee2 4 роки тому +8

      That would be more of a I close at the open

    • @zaneshadow6553
      @zaneshadow6553 4 роки тому +6

      @@munjee2 Do you not realize that it works either way?

  • @13thGeek
    @13thGeek 2 роки тому +65

    Solid theory. It’s been proven wrong after the release of Secrets of Dumbledore but it was an intriguing potential story thread that would have tied major lore elements together.

    • @Stemmer94
      @Stemmer94 2 роки тому +4

      They can hire the brothers now 😂😂

    • @glitch8960
      @glitch8960 2 місяці тому

      This would have been more interesting than what they ended up doing.

  • @seger249
    @seger249 4 роки тому +307

    Well... that actually made a lot of sense. Good job... The whole silver / gold name sealed the deal for me.

    • @annepixiebettinger3593
      @annepixiebettinger3593 4 роки тому +9

      I am an absolute NERD when it comes to name meanings. Whenever I write, I try to find the meaning of names so that way there's a greater connection. I will find connections (preferably more than one) that seem like cool names on the surface, but digging deeper you'll find new meanings and sometimes these meanings may hint towards the future of the character, not just the past. I'm in love with those concepts and apply it whenever possible. When I make up a name for my characters, I apply a new meaning to them that's based around that word or it origins.

  • @jalinaroset.4906
    @jalinaroset.4906 4 роки тому +1689

    Imagine if Voldemort had actually used the philosophers stone and turned himself into a crying baby girl.

  • @becka7644
    @becka7644 4 роки тому +378

    This is the only theory I'll be accepting as in why Credence is a Dumbledore

    • @americanwarrior4645
      @americanwarrior4645 3 роки тому +1

      But he ain’t a Dumbledore. Now if you are saying this is the only theory you accept that would make him a Dumbledore, sure, why not?

    • @PR7-82
      @PR7-82 3 роки тому +3

      He's Arianna's son

    • @countluke2334
      @countluke2334 2 роки тому +7

      I can actually live with him being Albus' nephew. It could have been much worse. This theory is intriguing, but probably to complicated to sell it to a mass audience.

    • @haleyeakes1034
      @haleyeakes1034 2 роки тому +4

      I love that we were all wrong and he’s alberforths son

    • @lydiaa9594
      @lydiaa9594 2 роки тому +3

      It's amazing how noone guessed it! There weren't even so many options.
      Dumbledore's nephew is spot on though

  • @lauraeisenschenk9386
    @lauraeisenschenk9386 4 роки тому +398

    Me at the start of the video: Nah, that seems far fetched...
    Me at the end of the video: OMG it's true!!

    • @Gigglingsiren
      @Gigglingsiren 4 роки тому +13

      I'm like that with most of their theories. A lot of them seem like the most ridiculous of ideas but by the end I'm convinced that it's the absolute truth. I hope they continue to use their powers for good.

    • @rosetigerlion
      @rosetigerlion 4 роки тому +1

      EVERYTIME

    • @AndyHappyGuy
      @AndyHappyGuy 4 роки тому +1

      credence's aunt who died during the shipwreck: am i a joke to you?

  • @Shotanat
    @Shotanat 4 роки тому +350

    Dude, that's perfect ! It can even fit the timeline, Credence is supposed to be born in 1901, and the duel was in 1899. It's really possible, that's awesome !

    • @theegyptiangamer2530
      @theegyptiangamer2530 4 роки тому +5

      This is a great comment

    • @thathsaraamarasinghe6774
      @thathsaraamarasinghe6774 4 роки тому +5

      If u mean by Duel, the epic one between Dumbledore and Grindewald, it happened in 1945 :-)

    • @Shotanat
      @Shotanat 4 роки тому +20

      @@thathsaraamarasinghe6774 It took me a few minutes to remember what that comment was about ^^'
      No, I'm talking about the smaller one that caused the death of Ariana,in August 1899, 2 years before the birth of Credence.

    • @thathsaraamarasinghe6774
      @thathsaraamarasinghe6774 4 роки тому +5

      @@Shotanat Ohh ok sorry, my bad

    • @vivekanand9944
      @vivekanand9944 4 роки тому

      Most likely this is what the story of the next FB&WTFT will be

  • @phosphoros60
    @phosphoros60 4 роки тому +142

    I really think there's an aspect to Magic in Harry Potter like conservation of energy. Not literally, more metaphorically: Voldermort made himself nigh-immortal by creating horcruxes, but the price he paid was to live a life of misery, devoid of meaning and true happiness. Flamel made himself nigh-immortal with the Philosopher's Stone, but by extending his life he literally stretched it thin (which kind of reminds me of Bilbo, now that I think about it)

    • @ProfAzimov
      @ProfAzimov 3 роки тому +11

      That is like alchemy from fullmetal alchemist

    • @kenzgitz9884
      @kenzgitz9884 3 роки тому +5

      @@ProfAzimov I was thinking that after I watched Fullmetal alchemist and I wonder if there is alchemy/ human transmutation involved in making horecruxes.

    • @colby3197
      @colby3197 3 роки тому +6

      @@kenzgitz9884 In OG FMA not brotherhood, it could be said that homunculi are essentially horcruxes of those dead being "resurrected" in less than human bodies

    • @GreyPunkWolf
      @GreyPunkWolf 3 роки тому +5

      @@kenzgitz9884 There is transmutation involved. Dark magic is a domain by itself for scholars, but it's essentially just a mix of the other classical domains. They're just meant to create evil things or events, hence why they're classified as "dark". But what is dark is just the end result, or a part of the creation process. The standards of magic still apply to dark magic, meaning the very act of manipulating and modificating a soul and/or a body, however the purpose of it, is actually a part of what transmutation can do.
      You're just not meant to do it, hence why it's forbidden magic, and its process is considered very dangerous and harmful, hence why it's called dark magic. But it's dark transmutation, with some other steps that I cant remember that come from other branches of magic.

    • @Mnkeys
      @Mnkeys 2 роки тому +1

      The law of equivalent exchange ^_^

  • @TenMinusTwo
    @TenMinusTwo 4 роки тому +66

    I can totally see J.K. watching this in her den. At the end she snaps a pencil in half with one hand and shouts, "Blasted brothers!"

  • @nickibolton2630
    @nickibolton2630 4 роки тому +257

    I love how when explaining why Credence can live so long you guys go with "because its the opposite" not "because the elixir of life created him" lol love you guys so much!

    • @insaincaldo
      @insaincaldo 4 роки тому +4

      Seems reasonable that using the stone like this would take allot of power and maybe leave the resulting life mortal. I mean he is going to be dealt with in some capacity, be it t death, put away somewhere, or separated from the obscurus.

    • @ExtremerZocker284076
      @ExtremerZocker284076 4 роки тому +7

      @@insaincaldo You're only immortal when you keep drinking the elixir. Once Flamel had no longer access to the elixir when the stone was destroyed, he died. So I guess you could say that applies to Credence as well?

    • @insaincaldo
      @insaincaldo 4 роки тому +1

      @@ExtremerZocker284076 Presumably, or it's like an Obelix situation. Kinda hard to grasp at anything when we barely know anything about the making of the elixir and how it works.

    • @FlameMoose37
      @FlameMoose37 4 роки тому +1

      Well you have to keep on drinking the elixir to live.

  • @DavidJones-tp7td
    @DavidJones-tp7td 4 роки тому +70

    One of the other things alchemists sought was the creation of the homunculus. It's kind of the alchemical equivalent to an advanced ai or android. Some stories say it requires a philosophers stone. So your theory seems to work.

    • @bianchialex
      @bianchialex 2 роки тому +5

      Credence is a homunculus created by Dumbledore and therefore a Dumbledore... I'd buy it.

    • @erichanastacio9695
      @erichanastacio9695 Рік тому +1

      Philosopher's stone...
      Homunculus....
      Full Metal Alchemist???

  • @isaiahcaston4539
    @isaiahcaston4539 4 роки тому +577

    Me: *stuck in traffic*
    *alert goes off*
    *sees topic*
    Alright, why not. Convince me

    • @sethkeown5965
      @sethkeown5965 4 роки тому +6

      Were you convinced?

    • @nickpavluk6319
      @nickpavluk6319 4 роки тому +10

      Pretty much had the same thing happen to me.... and yeah, I am convinced. Its probably the best explanation I could imagine

    • @isaiahcaston4539
      @isaiahcaston4539 4 роки тому +9

      @@sethkeown5965 it's a good theory and def a better theory than their "creedence is Dumbledores dark twin" theory. I can see Dumbledore thinking that his brilliance could save Arianna from death, maybe by extracting her "essence" (a crucial part in alchemy)

    • @sethkeown5965
      @sethkeown5965 4 роки тому +3

      @@isaiahcaston4539 my only fear is that JK will rush the explanation in the next movie and make this plausible idea feel cheap and unfufilling.

    • @juska4235
      @juska4235 4 роки тому +5

      I am so convinced that I'm afraid that 1) he spoiled the next movie 2)if that's not what is going to happen then what they said is canon and the next movie isn't.😂😂idc it seems so fitting

  • @davef4755
    @davef4755 4 роки тому +347

    Also one of the largest goals of alchemy was creating homunculii (artificial life) so it would fit very well that the man who created the stone also created one 👍

    • @richardhicks5031
      @richardhicks5031 4 роки тому +13

      What if they created a homunculus and then bound Ariana's obscuris to it to see what happened? And then they sent this homunculus to America where one of their contacts could better study it's development

    • @davef4755
      @davef4755 4 роки тому +5

      Makes scence in my book ^^

    • @ChathuriManjula9
      @ChathuriManjula9 4 роки тому +2

      Strange magic is in work here... under normal circumstances, Ariana‘s homonculus should be her age and be a version of herself. Instead, it‘s, in this case, a baby boy. May be its the obscurus...

    • @unknownfantasyalchemist
      @unknownfantasyalchemist 4 роки тому +10

      @@ChathuriManjula9 Listen People: Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood! I tell ya!

    • @Riwillion
      @Riwillion 4 роки тому +4

      @@unknownfantasyalchemist Or you can have taste and prefer the original series :P

  • @cupcakesandrose
    @cupcakesandrose 4 роки тому +45

    "It's 2020, so you should be thinking about 2040!"
    We were so optimistic...

  • @owenkrings8463
    @owenkrings8463 4 роки тому +425

    Aurelius also starts with A just like Albus, Aberforth, and Ariana who are all Dumbledores

    • @sugondese5497
      @sugondese5497 4 роки тому +19

      Some sound proof there my friend.👍

    • @melue895
      @melue895 4 роки тому +12

      Illuminati comfirmed

    • @rebeccaschwartz5477
      @rebeccaschwartz5477 4 роки тому +15

      And Argus. As in Argus Filch.

    • @dovelyy
      @dovelyy 4 роки тому +7

      Also Armando Dippet

    • @owenkrings8463
      @owenkrings8463 4 роки тому +2

      @@rebeccaschwartz5477 yes but the point I was going at was the Dumbledores

  • @jonjaarsma1456
    @jonjaarsma1456 4 роки тому +523

    If this isn't what Rowling is shooting for, maybe she should consider it

    • @rosh9979
      @rosh9979 4 роки тому

      Subscribe to lokoroko gaming

    • @TheSongwritingCat
      @TheSongwritingCat 4 роки тому +3

      I don't know. This sounds like one of those Dumbledore Horcrux theories that she would find very upsetting.

    • @Pheatan
      @Pheatan 4 роки тому +7

      @@TheSongwritingCat it's not a theory that makes somebody gay, so she probably wont endorse it

    • @chrissonofpear1384
      @chrissonofpear1384 4 роки тому +4

      I'm fine with her using it...

    • @MARYWTHER
      @MARYWTHER 4 роки тому +1

      We'll see. It's clear she has a plan since she talked about it with Jude Law right after he was casted as Dumbledore.

  • @MeatSim9
    @MeatSim9 4 роки тому +49

    Philosopher's Stone, Human Transmutation... He tried to bring back his sister, but the body he transmuted wasn't his sister...

    • @ryanward5770
      @ryanward5770 3 роки тому +5

      And what did Dumbledore teach at Hogwarts? Transfiguration

    • @unknownerror9551
      @unknownerror9551 3 роки тому

      @@ryanward5770 he was the teacher DADA and trafigartion teacher

    • @ryanward5770
      @ryanward5770 3 роки тому

      @@unknownerror9551 he didnt teach DADA he must have been substituting or something

    • @footloose_mini
      @footloose_mini 3 роки тому

      @@ryanward5770 he taught DADA until Travers banned it (this is in FBAWTFT, TCOG)

    • @dustyn4970
      @dustyn4970 3 роки тому +3

      This comment has no equivalent exchange.

  • @Vampyresdontdodishes
    @Vampyresdontdodishes 4 роки тому +220

    I was actually ready to give up on these films (and literally had stopped thinking about them). But this...this gave me hope.

  • @aardvarkdoom7234
    @aardvarkdoom7234 4 роки тому +226

    "Gentlemen, you had my curiosity, but now you have my attention."

  • @thebuddercweeper
    @thebuddercweeper 4 роки тому +14

    The Dumbledore children’s names read like a poem: gold, silver, white, from the river.

  • @tillmartens5770
    @tillmartens5770 4 роки тому +544

    funnily: there is that book series about nicolas flamel. and in the story there is a prophecy of twins, one is silver the other gold...

    • @MarieGarrett.
      @MarieGarrett. 4 роки тому +7

      Really! What's the book called?

    • @tillmartens5770
      @tillmartens5770 4 роки тому +25

      the secrets of nicolas flamel

    • @MsMumuku
      @MsMumuku 4 роки тому +32

      The Secrets of the Immortal Nicholas Flamel - That was a tedious book series for me to read. but I'm the only one I've talked to who didn't like it, so give it a try 😁

    • @kingpotato1683
      @kingpotato1683 4 роки тому +28

      Personally I really liked the middle books in that series. In my opinion the first book took awhile to find what it wanted to be which made it a little weird and even boring at times however it definitely gets better as you read farther into the book. However, the middle books in that series know what they are and what they’re doing and they’re really interesting and fun to read. The story gets a little confusing near the end but you can always do what I did and search up a summary explaining what happened to help you understand the last book better. Definitely give it a read and make sure not to give up on it just because of the first book like I almost did. I think my favorite book in the series is The Sorceress but it’s been awhile since I’ve read them so I’m not sure what my favorite book would be now.

    • @Zenith_682
      @Zenith_682 4 роки тому +5

      Oh yeah... I read that, it I don’t remember it.

  • @ZiggyGamma
    @ZiggyGamma 4 роки тому +403

    Me: How could Dumbledore think unaccompanying the baby is a good idea.
    "Certainly I can see how a very famous wizard, showing up in America with an unexplained baby, he created with unexplained magic, shortly after the death of two of his family members would look a little bit sketchy"
    Me:... Well when you put it like that It just makes sense.

    • @MARYWTHER
      @MARYWTHER 4 роки тому +33

      You're talking about the dude who dumped a one year old on a doorstep and left him there for hours tho lol

    • @MauriceGucci
      @MauriceGucci 4 роки тому +22

      Credence wasn't unaccompanied. We know that he was accompanied by his aunt. Funnily enough, despite having lost so many family members, one of the last Dumbledores left is Albus' aunt.

    • @footloose_mini
      @footloose_mini 3 роки тому +4

      Also Dumbledore may have realized that grindelwald knew of Aurelius and might try to trace him through Dumbledore to probably kill him (and he was right, as always)

    • @seraphina985
      @seraphina985 3 роки тому +4

      @@footloose_mini Also Aurelius, interesting name considering that Aurum is the Latin name for gold thus the chemical symbol Au. Anyone want to guess what the Latin name Aurelius actually translates to? Yup that would be Golden now it could be coincidence that English speaking early 20th century wizards picked this name at random but in light of its connection to the famed transmutative properties of the stone it seems an interesting coincidence. If anything it seems that this is made less likely by the fact that even among the more Latin exposed magical communities use of Latin inspired names was already becoming archaic. Even in muggle cultures forced to rapidly adopt a new language naming traditions lag behind by several centuries at least. Also lets face it wizard culture seems to be much more conservative in general which somewhat makes sense they don't seem to have experienced the rapid improvements in quality of life due to innovation muggle cultures have. Muggles have had a lot of incentive to become adaptable to new ideas as this as adaptability to new ideas has been rather useful at remaining not dead a while longer in recent centuries.
      In a weird sense this view of things resonates with me as it plays into an idea I derived from the concept of clarktech etc in modelling a fantasy themed modern era world I created. Basically the fae the world initially consisted of humans and fae but later expanded but in the lore the fae considered humans to be in possession of crude arcane magic that the humans termed electromagnetism. Essentially the idea was that humans were rather late to the party on this as their magical abilities were not innate but they had discovered magic through study and build artefacts to harness it. A method the innately magical creatures considered crude at best especially as it was tinkering with but one small part of the fundamental energy of all things. Kinda bizarre to explain in a brief summary but it was somewhat like a hard scifi meets fantasy sort of universe based entirely on a magical force somewhat along the lines of the quantum field that could be manipulated innately or through arcane means.

  • @leonardofaber5823
    @leonardofaber5823 4 роки тому +17

    The theory is quite good.
    Just a few things to consider:
    The Obscurus dissipates forever after the host's death, for it is the unstable Magic force of the Obscurial. Newt was only able to preserve that Obscurus because he found the 8-year-old witch before she died, having time to extract it from her before total dissipation.
    With all that being said, let's think: would a young adult wizard overwhelmed with pain, sorrow, grief and anger have the cold thought of extracting the Obscurus of his sister's corpse right after her death? I know it's Dumbledore, but still...
    I think that, by the time he had time to think about asking Flamel's help, there would be no Obscurus to extract... but he still had her corpse

    • @anne5756
      @anne5756 3 роки тому +6

      thats an interesting point! But wasn't Dumbledore in touch with flamel while at Hogwarts (before Ariana's death)? Maybe the reason he was in touch with flamel was to discuss if an obscurious could be extracted from a child (his sister)- that would definitely catch Flamel's interest, no?

    • @NicholsKT
      @NicholsKT Рік тому

      @@anne5756good point! like he was searching for a cure before he even graduated

  • @lotteceulemans7453
    @lotteceulemans7453 4 роки тому +397

    I pick this theory over the Dark Twin one 😄 seems more plausible

    • @robertofontiglia4148
      @robertofontiglia4148 4 роки тому +19

      I think they go hand in hand. Like, Aurelius is Ariana's dark twin -- without a body until Albus gives him one accidentally.

    • @althealligator1467
      @althealligator1467 4 роки тому +13

      @@robertofontiglia4148 Dumbledore in CoG: "Crednece is _a_ dark twin." Ariana's dark twin

  • @walnuthead
    @walnuthead 4 роки тому +191

    This isn't even a theory, this is just canon..

  • @seungjoonkin8970
    @seungjoonkin8970 3 роки тому +19

    I love the fact that the new movie’s title is Fantatic beast and The secret of Dumbledore. This could mean that Dumbledore’s secret is almost identical to this theory (he tried to resurrect Ariana and failed etc) and it will be revealed in this movie

    • @JustJoe10
      @JustJoe10 2 роки тому +2

      To bad they went for the most boring explanation

  • @syerrg9969
    @syerrg9969 4 роки тому +48

    When Albus referred an Obscurus to a 'dark twin' in CoG, i thought we're onto something because that was a interesting choice of words.

  • @robinhorst706
    @robinhorst706 4 роки тому +59

    This is probably my favorite theory you have ever come up with. There were quite a bunch of problems with the Crimes of Grindelwald and this would explain almost everything and make that movie not only relevant but crucial to the overall story of Fantastic Beasts.

  • @LtBasil
    @LtBasil 4 роки тому +31

    Well, it makes more sense than him being Albus' "regular" brother.

  • @WillyOrWillyNot
    @WillyOrWillyNot 4 роки тому +154

    "The dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities, some considered to be unnatural"
    Wait, wrong prequel series...
    Sorry, this whole "creating life through mysterious dark forces" concept had me mixed up for a brief moment, there.

    • @storymaster21
      @storymaster21 4 роки тому +6

      voldemort: dumbledor never told you what happened to your father harry.
      harry: he told me you KILLED him!
      voldemort: no harry, I AM your FATHER!!
      harry: nooooo! THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!

  • @thebeardedchad
    @thebeardedchad 4 роки тому +455

    You guys are responsible for like 90% of my headcanon concerning Harry Potter. at this point I'm willing to accept your theories as fact and JK Rowling's stories and opinion as one alternate possibility.

    • @Lee-pj5vf
      @Lee-pj5vf 4 роки тому +5

      Haha that's so true

    • @BeastiesRUs
      @BeastiesRUs 4 роки тому +18

      Well, she can't even keep her own cannon so they are as much cannon as JK's stories at this point

    • @elineeugenie5224
      @elineeugenie5224 4 роки тому +7

      Your canon became a cannon lol

    • @lionproud1287
      @lionproud1287 4 роки тому +11

      *cough cough!* Cursed Child *cough*

    • @thebeardedchad
      @thebeardedchad 4 роки тому +15

      @@lionproud1287 I know of no such thing. You must be misinformed.

  • @phosphoros60
    @phosphoros60 4 роки тому +34

    "The moment he arrived at Starwarts, he was a Hog pupil"

  • @anabellik
    @anabellik 4 роки тому +69

    Wow, this theory is SO GOOD and explains pretty much EVERYTHING.
    This is officially my canon from now on.

  • @Kalli315
    @Kalli315 4 роки тому +74

    *the producers of fantastic beasts three watching this video* “write that down”

  • @aletcher89
    @aletcher89 4 роки тому +29

    I need clarification on two things.
    First, do we have to assume that Grindelwald learned about Credence's true identity through a vision? If so, wouldn't he have known it was Credence all along, since we was already aware of and racking the obscures by that point? Unless we are to assume it was a big coincidence that Grindelwald was already looking for an obscures for some other reason, then sometime between the two films had the vision revealing Credence's identity?
    Second, wouldn't a phoenix have appeared to Credence earlier? He was almost killed at the end of the first film. I'd think that situation would be as "in need of help" as any could be.

    • @eldancer2
      @eldancer2 3 роки тому +8

      Maybe he had a vision but couldn't see the baby's gender. Then he just assumed it was a girl. He says to Credence, in Fantastic Beast 1 that he was looking for a girl because he had this vision. But he actually just assumed it was a girl. He might thought that they were able to make Ariana born again.

    • @steakismeat177
      @steakismeat177 3 роки тому +2

      @@eldancer2 however because ariana is based on the name for silver and the stone turned her obscurus into a different body he is Aurelius. Since it turned Silver Dumbledore into Gold Dumbledore.

    • @jorilysmatos69
      @jorilysmatos69 3 роки тому +3

      Isn't the phoenix at the end the little bird he rescued earlier in the movie?

    • @larawho3906
      @larawho3906 2 роки тому

      @@eldancer2 he might have assumed it was a girl because Ariana herself was a girl too, he couldn't have guested that they changed by accident the gender of the baby.

  • @almas5713
    @almas5713 4 роки тому +165

    In addition to this, the names Aurelius and Arianna both come from the Mediterranean region, Arianna being Greek, and Arelius being Roman. We all know JK Rowling chooses her names very carefully.
    My idea is that since historically Greek Mythology was changed by the Romans, this may be a mirrored event between Arianna changing into Arelius.

    • @fleetskipper1810
      @fleetskipper1810 4 роки тому +5

      Alma S Bery clever-I like it.

    • @almas5713
      @almas5713 4 роки тому +2

      @@fleetskipper1810 Thanks haha

    • @Zzmora
      @Zzmora 4 роки тому +6

      Also, some antic Roman mythology (the Eneida) said that Romans descend from Greece, that would make it fit even more!

    • @chingizzhylkybayev8575
      @chingizzhylkybayev8575 4 роки тому +1

      To be fair, it is extremely common for a European to bear a Greek or a Roman name

    • @almas5713
      @almas5713 4 роки тому +1

      @@chingizzhylkybayev8575 I think it still says something that Arianna is the greek name and Arelius is the roman one.

  • @chyawanprash
    @chyawanprash 4 роки тому +536

    If the actually story in the upcoming movies isn't this, then it'll just be a disappointment

    • @sarahglover3286
      @sarahglover3286 4 роки тому +23

      Imagine if they'd written the script see this and rip it up and rewrite it!

    • @mickeyolds7383
      @mickeyolds7383 3 роки тому +5

      I’m prepared to be disappointed as this is too good to be the actual story

    • @janetuss6496
      @janetuss6496 3 роки тому +8

      @@mickeyolds7383 it most likely is what Rowling is going for. Rowling has said she researched an insane amount of alchemy to write the harry potter books, way more info than she could ever use. Besides the obvious philospher's stone and Flamel storyline, a lot of people don't realize the amount of alchemic symbolism and references she put into the HP books, and she's carrying it over to the FB series. If you look up Alchemy and Harry Potter, there is a ton of analysis you can find.
      Just look up Magnum Opus Alchemy. It talks about the 4 alchemic stages to create the philosopher's stone:
      Rubedo = red phase
      Nigredo = black phase
      Albedo = white phase
      Citrinitas = yellow phase
      Rubeus Hagrid - rubeus means red, so Hagrid represents the red phase
      Sirius Black - represents the black phase
      Albus Dumbledore - albus means white, so Dumbledore represents the white phase
      Lupin could represent the yellow stage. Even though his name doesn't mean yellow, his nickname is Moony because of the werewolf thing. Moon = yellow.
      Alchemy includes spiritual alchemy, which is basically the process of spiritual/psychological/personal transformation. The real philosopher's stone or the real gold is the transformation of one's spirit/mind. The transmutation of non-precious metals (like lead) into gold is a metaphor for one transforming one's mind or spirit from a lead-like state into a gold state - bright, shining and pure/good. This is basically the "hero's journey" of Harry Potter. Harry goes through his alchemic personal transformation firstly with the help of the different father-figures listed above, they guide him through the different stages or phases. And then, as they leave Harry or die one-by-one, Harry has to come onto his own and complete his transformation alone. Hence why he goes into the forest alone to face Voldemort and his final duel against Voldemort is done alone, 1 v 1.
      There's a ton more alchemic symbolism in harry potter, this is just one example. It's actually insane how many things Rowling wove together, she really created a genius piece of modern literature. So I'm not surprised she is taking the alchemy route to craft the FB series, she has enough knowledge of alchemy to do so.
      If you look up alchemy, you'll see that one of the ingredients used to make the philosopher's stone is something called prima materia. Prima materia is said to be mercury sulfide, which is sometimes known as Dragon's Blood. Dumbledore's chocolate frog card mentions that he's notable for discovering the 12 uses of Dragon's Blood. This is more than likely a reference and a result of his alchemy work with Flamel.

  • @leysflower
    @leysflower 4 роки тому +36

    Excellent theory! In Germany in Alchemy it was believed that you could create a living being with the philosopher's stone. The romantic poets wrote about it a lot. This being was called a Homunkulus. A Homunkulus is basically a either a tiny human or a very, very crinkled, tiny human. So Credence was then that tiny human.

    • @davidusher4304
      @davidusher4304 2 роки тому +3

      This is similar to the anime full metal alchemist where philosopher stones are used to create many homunculi

  • @TiBunCosplay
    @TiBunCosplay 4 роки тому +1354

    I have a sudden need to attend Starwarts school of witchcraft and forcery.

  • @seraphinaedan1033
    @seraphinaedan1033 4 роки тому +313

    “Very close friendship” what are you, a historian speaking about two Ancient Greece guys being bros?

    • @Mirro18
      @Mirro18 4 роки тому +18

      Heterosexual life partners. Just like Achilles and Patroclus. Very Manly (especially Achilles), very straight, very much... why do I hear Whisper in the Wind?

    • @cortneymaitland4429
      @cortneymaitland4429 4 роки тому +11

      @@Mirro18 I'm Jay and this is my heterosexual life partner, Silent Bob.

    • @Mirro18
      @Mirro18 4 роки тому +4

      @@cortneymaitland4429 Very heterosexual. Very not... why does Whisper in The Wind Keep playing!?

  • @akhil29897
    @akhil29897 4 роки тому +58

    Sounds like something Hermoine would find out

  • @docmike8601
    @docmike8601 4 роки тому +146

    This has got to be the most well thought out and supported fan theory I have ever heard in any IP. Well done.

  • @BryanCarthell
    @BryanCarthell 4 роки тому +58

    Ever since I saw “Crimes” in the theater, I’ve been looking for ANY possible explanation for the Aurelius Dumbledore twist that still fit into established cannon. This is the first time I’ve seen something that makes sense.
    I really hope this is true and the that the real reason is not some lame ret-con.

  • @TimothyWhiteowl
    @TimothyWhiteowl 4 роки тому +20

    Dumbledore and Flamel used the stone trying to remove the Obscurus from Ariana - which made Aurelius. (a dark twin)

  • @kaminosystem
    @kaminosystem 4 роки тому +100

    Before watching: this makes no sense
    After watching: this makes perfect sense

  • @TimiSterr
    @TimiSterr 4 роки тому +298

    Imagine if it turns out they were wrong. That would mean that they're better writers than Rowling. That would be AWESOME! Because this theory is BOMB!

    • @Lifes1BeautifulRide
      @Lifes1BeautifulRide 4 роки тому +3

      Timi Sterr Exactly!!!

    • @jacquig1939
      @jacquig1939 4 роки тому +12

      There's several amazing fan theories that the texts totally support that JK said aren't real. Don't care, if it sounds credible I'm going with it.

    • @aichitoshiki1321
      @aichitoshiki1321 4 роки тому +1

      Heck yeah

    • @1800owch
      @1800owch 2 роки тому +1

      Turns out they’re better writers than Rowling-

  • @aaronrowe4129
    @aaronrowe4129 4 роки тому +16

    I will point out, Gellert Grindelwald was the one who told him his name. Gellert Grindelwald also used Percival Graves as his alias. Percival is both one of Albus's middle names as well as the name of his late father. Albus Percival Wilfric Brian Dumbledore. How much are you willing to bet that Albus's father had a multitude of middle names and one of them was Aurelius? It might be Grindelwald's way of carrying a torch for his old flame.

  • @marzizzo
    @marzizzo 4 роки тому +83

    "can turn any other metal..."
    Me: NO
    "into gold"
    Me: SJHGFDSJHG

  • @brandonnobach3388
    @brandonnobach3388 4 роки тому +58

    I wasn't on board until the Silver into Gold moment. Then I was like yeah, yeah, yeah that makes sense. That works. Got it!

  • @mattias2576
    @mattias2576 4 роки тому +8

    everytime i hear creedence i half expect them to begin singing: "some folks are born, made to wave the flag, oooh that red white and blue"

  • @walcnevar44
    @walcnevar44 4 роки тому +14

    I got chills when J explained what their names meant! This theory is certainly the best-fitting so far. It is exactly the kind of meaningful logic that Jo uses in her writing, full of double meanings and ancient language.

  • @birddcandle
    @birddcandle 4 роки тому +26

    When he said “to turn any metal into gold” I got actual chills

  • @lauralos9973
    @lauralos9973 3 роки тому +55

    To add to this theory... what if the reason Credence has been able to survive this long as an obscurus is because he has received immortal abilities from the stone just like Flammel has!

    • @Z_pixel
      @Z_pixel 3 роки тому +4

      i like this!

    • @petershaw8237
      @petershaw8237 2 роки тому +2

      But isn't Flammel tied to a potion he has to drink like always to keep him alife?

    • @Ismail-kv3ex
      @Ismail-kv3ex 2 роки тому +2

      Well they did mention that Credence being such a rarity among Obscurials is that rather then being a boy who developed an Obscurus, he was an Obscurus (a Dumbledore's Obscurus no less) who gained a body
      So although I like your thinking, I don't think it would work since Credence is almost certainly not alive by the time Harry shows up (both narratively and world building wise, he just can't survive to the end of this series)
      And he can't die with immortal abilities (Flamel also had to make a Elixer to keep immortal, but it would be funny if Credence has a gift for potion making)

  • @bregje_juggling
    @bregje_juggling 4 роки тому +25

    Makers of Fantastic Beasts: how are we going to explain this in the 3rd movie?
    Also makers of FB: **watch this video** There you have our story!

  •  4 роки тому +121

    When Dumbledore created Aurelius, he was already away from Grindelwald.
    However, Grindelwald may have found out about Aurelius' creation through his clairvoyant skills.

    • @DeeSnow97
      @DeeSnow97 4 роки тому +28

      Could explain why it took Grindelwald so long to find Aurelius

    • @flamingpi2245
      @flamingpi2245 4 роки тому

      Aurelius=Aurum=Gold

    • @CaitLumos
      @CaitLumos 4 роки тому +66

      And why he assumed that Aurelius was a girl

    • @merdanogut9286
      @merdanogut9286 4 роки тому +2

      He is a pretty good seer.

    • @DeeFig66
      @DeeFig66 4 роки тому +22

      @@CaitLumos Oh yeah, if he's Ariana's obscurus, he would have been looking for a girl which was why he targeted his "little sister" so quickly.

  • @kushalyadav4773
    @kushalyadav4773 4 роки тому +18

    The fact that it makes sense is even more mind blowing than the theory itself

  • @Astral_thee_God
    @Astral_thee_God 4 роки тому +114

    Me: *sees title* Ohhhhhhhhhh we've gone full Fullmetal Alchemist, haven't we? Alright, convince me boys
    Oooooo okay, the name revelation kinda gave me chills. I really like this theory. Makes more sense than anything else they could do

    • @muninrob
      @muninrob 4 роки тому

      Nicholas Flamel was a real world book seller who became known as "the worlds greatest alchemist" after his death - and has an entire book series of his own. Both the Potterverse and the world of FMA took inspiration from one of OUR world's most famous supposed alchemists.

    • @Astral_thee_God
      @Astral_thee_God 4 роки тому

      @@muninrob ...yeah, I'm well aware. No need for the history lesson

    • @katiekoo-koohead2551
      @katiekoo-koohead2551 4 роки тому

      Love the full metal alchemy reference it's a amazing anime

    • @katiekoo-koohead2551
      @katiekoo-koohead2551 4 роки тому

      Also I agree that this theory is amazing

  • @leviadiane
    @leviadiane 4 роки тому +60

    I'm sold on this theory so much that i will be disappointed if this isn't canon

  • @gabbodelaparrawrites
    @gabbodelaparrawrites 3 роки тому +10

    Revisiting this. It would make sense now why Grindelwald was looking for a girl thinking it was coming from Ariana even if the age difference should be a conflict.

  • @jennyblanch8241
    @jennyblanch8241 4 роки тому +95

    To possibly answer why Flammel's house looks like it does could be because a mansion, a gold house or even a lavish one would garner a lot of attention which is the opposite of what a safe house is for. The house might be their original house and also like you said Fammel is not dead but very brittle and the house could also represent that idea of still existing/standing but not in the best condition. Kind of like Nicholas and Pernel.

    • @irimac1806
      @irimac1806 4 роки тому +9

      I really like that bc it reminds me of the saying to be careful what you wish for. Just bc you wish immortality doesnt mean youre young, beautiful or indestructible forever and vice cersa ^^

    • @alexiswelsh5821
      @alexiswelsh5821 4 роки тому

      But he could still use the gold to hire a housekeeper or something. The Flammels seem like nice people, I think they could treat a house elf well.

  • @leowiebe2023
    @leowiebe2023 3 роки тому +2

    Harry after he wakes up in the hospital: Where is the stone?
    Dumbledore: Gone. Reduced to atoms.

  • @indigopines
    @indigopines 4 роки тому +140

    Are you telling me
    Dumbledore attempted *human transmutation*?
    FMA fans: * shivers *

    • @erikburzinski8248
      @erikburzinski8248 4 роки тому +18

      FMA: Remembers how a philosophers stone is made (shivers more)

    • @dancasey7
      @dancasey7 4 роки тому +1

      What’s fma?

    • @9kar7etyr
      @9kar7etyr 4 роки тому +3

      Fullmetal Alchemist

    • @ddm1912
      @ddm1912 4 роки тому +3

      FMA Brotherhood

    • @ewilliams4410
      @ewilliams4410 4 роки тому +7

      "Al-bus? Big...bro-ther."

  • @pinkcowjl
    @pinkcowjl 4 роки тому +77

    Okay this is the theory to end all theories

  • @carsivus4866
    @carsivus4866 4 роки тому +20

    "And the name Aurelius means..."
    Me, someone who is semi interested in science and remembered that the the period symbol for gold is Au which comes from latin which probably translates to Aurelius: GOLD
    Also, what if Albus and Aberforth knew that Aurelius was their sister/brother? Do you think that, with the right cues, Aurelius would be able to remember his memories from when he was Ariana? And in a way it would be like Ariana was still alive?
    And if so, this would probably mean that Aberforth wouldn't hold a grudge against Albus for that long and the three brothers would be able to live at Hogwarts. We dont know that much about Aberforth but I feel that he would take up the role of DADA post and Aurelius would be able to attend Hogwarts as a student, depending on when the other brothers managed to find him.
    So in the end, Albus would teach Transfiguration, Aberforth would teach DADA, and Aurelius would be in either Ravenclaw or Slytherin, most likely Slytherin seeing as he is so deceptive and cunning and never really trusts anyone too much.
    However there might be a stigma surrounding the fact that Aurelius is an Obscurial, similar to Lupin being a werewolf. But in the end Aurelius would be able to control this power and become an even better wizard because of it. When the time came for the Battle of Hogwarts (if they were all alive by then) I think it would be cool to see a Dumbledore trio fighting alongside each other and casting protection spells around the castle and grounds.
    Also how funny would it be to have two professors named Dumbledore?

  • @ArcaneEther
    @ArcaneEther 4 роки тому +14

    We know that when Voldemort was possessing Quirrell's body, he needed to continuously drink unicorn blood to stay alive, since two souls were living within the one body. It would make sense that if the Elixir of Life can extend a human body's life, it could also potentially be used either with or without unicorn blood to preserve Quirrell's body until a better way to restore Voldemort to a body of his own could be found.
    After all, it was quite dangerous to keep the hidden Voldemort so close to Dumbledore and Harry for an entire year, but he didn't have a choice - the Dark Forest was the only known habitat of unicorns and, presumably, the blood needed to be consumed fresh.
    But the rest of this theory really sounds good. Especially the gender of the "restored" Arianna, in Credence. Assuming her physical body was destroyed from her Obscurial explosion, the only "Dumbledore material" that could be used to create a new body would have to come from either Albus or Aberforth - both male. Kendra was dead at this point, so there was no "female material" use in the process.

  • @morganjohnson8202
    @morganjohnson8202 4 роки тому +198

    Soo J.K Rowling is going to be mad when she figures out y’all have her next movie away lolol

    • @heididavison816
      @heididavison816 4 роки тому +25

      Morgan Johnson if we are lucky, her next movíe will make this much sense lol

    • @shrutiw.6904
      @shrutiw.6904 4 роки тому +8

      Totally agree. Now I want books of fantastic beast. I wish I had them 😍

  • @aishwaryajoshi
    @aishwaryajoshi 3 роки тому +3

    I literally had goosebumps throughout this video. Everything, every single missing piece fits perfectly.

  • @captainwatercress
    @captainwatercress 4 роки тому +593

    “Closer than brothers.” THEY’RE GAY, STEVE

  • @CaitLumos
    @CaitLumos 4 роки тому +39

    I cackled when the Starwarts music started playing 😂

  • @AcousticKitty
    @AcousticKitty 3 роки тому +5

    My thing is, just because a Phoenix is known to appear to a Dumbledore in need, that doesn't mean they ONLY appear to Dumbledores... However, yea that silver into gold thing just seals this theory as fact.

  • @_Noon_i
    @_Noon_i 4 роки тому +49

    “What in the name of merlins pants...” I legit am laughing soo hard!

    • @dajax1996
      @dajax1996 4 роки тому

      Hermione says that in deathly hallows

    • @kf10147
      @kf10147 4 роки тому

      I like "Merlin's Mushrooms!"

    • @Jack-qm7xd
      @Jack-qm7xd 4 роки тому

      Daan Van Vught actually Ron says that but his mom cuts him off

    • @dajax1996
      @dajax1996 4 роки тому

      @@Jack-qm7xd seems right. Wasnt 100 sure between the two

  • @jliberation9003
    @jliberation9003 4 роки тому +2

    That silver to gold thing really sold this for me. First theory ive truely, truely believed. Thanks chaps

  • @zackatk77
    @zackatk77 4 роки тому +31

    Ow. 😖 My brain. I do this to myself way too often: see their new video's thumbnail, wonder how the blazes it could be accurate in any way, watch it knowing full well it'd be better left a mystery, and have all the pieces fall into place like a game of Tetris. Supporting these two will put me in St. Mungo's before too much longer.

  • @jynxy3707
    @jynxy3707 4 роки тому +24

    J.K Rolling watching this “yep that’s definitely what I went for”

  • @thathsaraamarasinghe6774
    @thathsaraamarasinghe6774 4 роки тому +2

    I watched this sometime back, but I forgot the points, I watched it again and got the frkin' chills going up my body at the end... you guys are so frikin dramatic

  • @meghna4613
    @meghna4613 4 роки тому +13

    I am surprised I haven't seen a comment saying
    "This is too good to be the explanation they're going for."

  • @tanmaybarve3502
    @tanmaybarve3502 4 роки тому +67

    Imagine if JKR had exactly this very idea in her mind and now you've given everyone spoiler 😂

    • @teaotspp
      @teaotspp 4 роки тому +13

      I remember a few years back when JK was still working on Half-Blood Prince but someone wrote a theory on Veritaserum.com about how Snape might have been in love with Lily and he's doing everything to protect Harry, and that must be the ultimate secret that makes Dumbledore trust him. I read it and thought: "that kinda makes sense", few years later, it was true! I hope this theory with Aurelius is true as well. I wouldn't like to find out that we waited for 3 years (?) on a cliffhanger that will be dismissed in the next 5 seconds by Gellert going like: "nah, just messing up with you!"

    • @Karin_Allen
      @Karin_Allen 4 роки тому +4

      They sort of did it before when they figured out the identity of Claudia Kim's character before it was announced.

  • @nathanlutz9395
    @nathanlutz9395 4 роки тому +2

    Watching TCOG again, every scene with Dumbledore and Leta takes on new meaning. Dumbledore has known something is up with Leta Lestrange ever since witnessing her boggart and pressures her to tell him after becoming concerned about who Credence is.
    It does make you realize how crazy it is that Albus is essentially spying on his students' fears, and probably uses that information as an easy confidence-booster and bonding opportunity.

  • @unknownfantasyalchemist
    @unknownfantasyalchemist 4 роки тому +75

    Me: "So, J. K. Rowling has finally seen Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood."
    Kronk: "Oh, Yeah. It's all coming together."

  • @gideonwhite7077
    @gideonwhite7077 4 роки тому +51

    Me, having watched Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood in middle school: oh so he's just gonna create a homunculus. Seems legit

    • @agentsakur9
      @agentsakur9 4 роки тому +7

      So he wasn't Credence.... he was ENVY.

    • @jonathanl9229
      @jonathanl9229 4 роки тому +1

      Did they really have a homunculus on a kid’s show?? Lol

    • @gideonwhite7077
      @gideonwhite7077 4 роки тому +5

      @@jonathanl9229 yeah. pretty good show, too. highly recommend it.

    • @MerkhVision
      @MerkhVision 4 роки тому +9

      Jonathan L it wasn’t a kids show. Just because something is animated doesn’t make it automatically for kids

    • @MARYWTHER
      @MARYWTHER 4 роки тому +6

      Omggg yes, a way to say it simply: Credence is a homunculus! I'm pretty sure the concept of homunculi could exist within the alchemy of the HP world btw...

  • @9LivesDeepDives
    @9LivesDeepDives 3 роки тому +2

    Still one of the best theories I’ve seen on UA-cam in a long time. It just works so perfectly.

  • @xChrisKobain
    @xChrisKobain 4 роки тому +11

    This is literally the best theory I've ever heard. It's actually insane. My mind was blown multiple times.

  • @SuLokify
    @SuLokify 4 роки тому +6

    I thought it was explicitly stated in the books that Dumbledore's contribution to alchemy with Flamel involved the discovery of new uses for dragon's blood

  • @JustJoe10
    @JustJoe10 2 роки тому +14

    God I wish this theory was true! It’s so great (and so much better than the one we got)

  • @meghna4613
    @meghna4613 4 роки тому +14

    At 12:32 and 12:36 I got literal CHILLS
    Like actual goosebumps
    Just incredible

  • @coleschroder8517
    @coleschroder8517 4 роки тому +12

    This definitely feels like another Nagini. Good job guys!

  • @murderofcrows5089
    @murderofcrows5089 3 роки тому +5

    Honestly that would make sense given Grinderwald said Creedence is Albus’s “brother” it would technically make him a Dumbledore

  • @aurallium318
    @aurallium318 4 роки тому +70

    Sometimes I wish that you guys wrote Harry Potter or at least the Fantastic Beasts series because your AMAZING theories sound like a better story than what is probably going to happen at the rate that J.K. Rowling is going right now.

    • @arandomuser9459
      @arandomuser9459 4 роки тому +3

      RavenclaWitch 31
      Same. And they’d probably do better than Rowling. I’ve heard her Twitter has been a nightmare lately.

    • @l0veasia333
      @l0veasia333 4 роки тому +3

      Same. Even if I don't believe in some of their stuff it makes so much more sense than what she says these days .....

    • @scroogemcduck9064
      @scroogemcduck9064 4 роки тому

      🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

    • @natfingerboard
      @natfingerboard 4 роки тому +5

      They somehow manage to fill every hole in her stories

  • @mindaraneras2679
    @mindaraneras2679 4 роки тому +6

    When I saw the title for this video, I wasn't convinced. I knew that you would talk about the fact that the stone creates gold an the elixir of life and Aurelius means gold, but I wasn't sure it would fit together. Anyway, this is amazing, I really think this could be true!

  • @finlaygilchrist8544
    @finlaygilchrist8544 3 роки тому +3

    This channel is literally the new rockstars of Harry potter..... And I love it.

  • @DrZeus108
    @DrZeus108 4 роки тому +27

    This is all convincing and I will be sad if there is a lesser explanation in the next movie. BUT why was Nick on the Choc frog card? Surely they didn't tell the frog making people they accidentally made a new person.

    • @mythandmayhem1134
      @mythandmayhem1134 4 роки тому +15

      Zeus__108
      “Mr. Dumbledore, we want to make a chocolate frog card. What would you consider your greatest accomplishments?”
      “Well, this one time I created an entire human person by accident.”
      “W-what?”
      “I mean, I worked with the great philosopher, Nicholas Flamel.”

    • @heatherd8630
      @heatherd8630 4 роки тому

      @@mythandmayhem1134 😂😂😂 #comedygold

  • @dryadknight07
    @dryadknight07 4 роки тому +17

    One of the most well thought out theories I've heard in a while. It'd be crazy if this WASN'T true.