Yet another fantastic video Maggie. I don't think anyone that was there that evening would have had any idea of what whirlwind was about to blow through the UK with the Pistols. Great music heritage from John. Thank you both for the video.
I'm so glad you enjoyed it! Yes, John was very sweet to talk about that night, given that he has done many important things since then. The Vibrators were very early punk and it was a pleasure to chat with him.
Hi Maggie, Another great video. Very interesting and a great chat with John. The only times ive seen him are when he played with The Stranglers. Punk Rock history....You cant beat it! All the best. Andy
Thanks yet again, Maggie, for another video on the greatest band to come out of London in the last 50 years! It's a great interview on a great subject. Your enthusiasm is fantastic !
Hi Mike, Of course! You were so sweet to put me in touch with him. I really enjoyed our chat. The fact that he was there that night and also started The Virbators ... what a legend.
Nice one Mags excellent as always. Went to Denmark St myself just recently and stayed in the Pistols rehearsal space for the night (could only afford one night, bit pricey 🤑)Did a great Pub crawl with my brvva around all places they used to frequent. Worth every penny had a great time. Keep up the good work ❤
How fun! I bet that was a great experience. I love the old pubs in Soho. I went to The Ship on Wardour Street a couple of times on my last visit. Thanks for watching another video!
This might be of interest: "Between 1976 and 1982, DB Burkeman was a teenage school dropout and aspiring photographer, immersed in the punk scenes in the UK and US but struggling with substance abuse issues. While he spent his disposable income on self-medication, rolls of film remained undeveloped in a bedside drawer. Decades later, following his mother’s death, Burkeman cleared out his old bedroom and discovered a time capsule of the explosion of punk rock - now published in book form."
Thanks maggie. Interesting interview,I didn’t realise he had done so much music wise. One of our local celebrities was Gary tibbs who gets a mention. I got given a white label pure mania off a friend who buys and sells records. He always gives me the punk records. Hope you are both well. Stuart
Thanks for watching Stuart! Yes, he's really a very interesting and important person in his own right. I almost felt embarrassed to ask too much about the SP gig, because even though he's happy to talk about it, it's not the most important music event in his career and he did so much throughout his life that's really significant, like starting The Vibrators. Hope you're well too.:)
Great video Maggie. Be good to hear from anyone who attended the pistols gig at the Kingfish club in Baton Rouge, January 9th 1978. This was reportedly the best gig of the USA tour.
Thanks for watching another one! I would love to speak to someone who attended that gig. I wish I had gone to it. It seems like that one on the American tour is the least talked about or photographed of the seven dates.
@WhyNotGoPlaces Yeah just read a review online by Alex v Cook entitled "Throw something at em" The Sex Pistols in Baton Rouge. Apparently the best gig of the tour and also for the band stopping playing when the crowd showered the stage with money, which Steve and Sid picked up. The Kingfish Club was on Perkins Road which is today named the Bulldog.
Reminds me of how snobbish it all was back then, particularly in London . The Stranglers were considered uncool back then but were brilliant and live trumped most other bands.
I thought ti was interesting when he said The Vibrators weren't considered cool by the press. They loved them in Europe though. So yes, it sounds like it was very cliquey back then. Thanks for watching!
Hi Maggie. Knox from the Vibrators runs a charity shop called Rock n roll rescue text to the Dublin Castle pub and venue in Camden Town, well worth calling in to see him text time you're in London, cheers for the great interview, Rob
Thanks for watching Rob! That's interesting because when we were in London recently and went to see Brigandage at the Dublin Castle, we went to a record shop there called Sounds That Swing. Great store. The owner was very interesting and Joe did a short video for his channel Tomorrow's History on the shop. I didn't notice the charity shop so it was probably closed when we were there. I'll definitely put that on my list next time I'm in London. I know a lot of people say Camden isn't what it used to be, but I still find it a great place to visit. Thanks again.
You can read Google reviews.. Record & Tape Exchanges were so much better esp the musical instruments shop in Notting Hill and used vinyl where snobbish ex degree students tried to be cool and unfriendly esp that prick Epic Soundtracks so beloved by the American bands because he was in????? Swell Maps (naps zz zz) or something... But he went out of his way to be nasty for no reason..
Your memory is definitely shot when you can’t remember being there and someone has to tell you…another great int, thankyou Maggie! I’d love a Steve Dior int…,😉
Thanks for watching! Yes, he does admit his memory is shot. He did remember Danny Kleinman calling him up and asking him to be there because the opening band "might give them some trouble." I'd love to interview Steve Dior. I will try to track him down. Thanks for the suggestion.
I saw The Vibrators twice - at Clouds in Edinburgh supported by The Skids in March 1978 and at Hawick Town Hall supported by Johnny & The Roccos in June 1978... So far as I recall, John Ellis was involved at both gigs.
Lydon was wearing a Cambridge Rapist t-shirt for this first gig, I made drawings of him and Malcolm the next day detailing their clothing. Get in touch if you want to see the drawing. There was more than 30 people there but not everyone was crowding the stage, Souxie and her crew were up front. Lydon "come on you stupid gits, dance!" but the music wasn't danceable as the pogo was yet to be invented.
That's interesting. Thanks for the info. I'd love to see a photo from that gig. I read in Paul Gorman's book that he was wearing the I hate Pink Floyd t-shirt, but maybe that is incorrect. Were you there? As far as the Bromley Contingent, it is well documented in many books, including Glen Matlock's books, that Simon Barker (of the Bromley Contingent) first saw the band when they played at Ravensbourne College in Chisleshurst on Dec. 9, 1975. This was their 6th gig. He loved the band and started inviting his friends (Siouxsie, Steve Severin, Billy Idol etc.) and the Bromley Contingent was born. (Caroline Coon gave them that name because most were from the Bromley area.) There was no Bromley Contingent at the first gig. Thanks for watching.
@@WhyNotGoPlaces yes I was there, my pals at St Martins who invited me knew Matlock who told them he had given up art for rock and roll. The refectory or canteen was big with a low ceiling. Maclaren spent the gig at the back standing on a chair aping "moves" for Rotten to mimic but I doubt Johnny saw him, most of the audience was crowded up front but there was a crowd scattered thinly around the hall trying to take it in. If you went to a Bowie or Roxy gig in those days you's see Souxie and her pals so I wasn't surprised to see her there. Perhaps it wasn't her? Maybe but my drawing of a snarling Lydon and frizzy haired Malcolm were drawn from memory the next day, the Cambridge Rapist T was quite memorable as were the brothel creepers Johnny wore.
I didn't pay much attention to them in the 70's. I guess because they seemed older than the other bands I liked (such is the thought process of a young girl!), to be honest, but I did like the song No More Heroes. I remember hating the song Peaches when it came out though. But over the years I grew to like them more. I love the song Hanging Around - the heavy bass is amazing. So they weren't at the top of my list in the 70's but when I hear their songs now I turn up the volume. Thanks for watching.
@@Cli-y6w As I remember it, none of the early bands were anything like each other and the term Punk Rock came from Melody Maker or some other paper and then venues and promoters booked bands under the Punk Rock moniker and so the audience adopted some bands as punk bands that didn't even consider themselves as punk but jumped on the bandwagon once they got more attention, The Damned are one example I know of, maybe The Stranglers were also one such band as they were active well before the birth of the punk movement.
@@SoSurreal-f9pbullshit. Stranglers were never pub rock.. Go do some research, its not difficult to grasp. Joe Strummer was Mr Pub Rock until he jumped ship.. Dr Feelgood, Kilburn and High Roads, Nick Lowe etc was 'pub rock'
Great interview with John.If you want to see early Vibrators footage on you tube there is footage from the Rock Garden London 06/01/1977 doing SLF and the Red Cow 20/01/1977 doing London girls and nazi baby.Enjoy.
St martins school of Art is now Foyles book shop which used to be next door. Think Foyles bookshop owned the block ! Lucky them . But yeah remember 20 years ago going to Art shows in St Martins, degree end of year Art presentations . Me and my mate hoped to chat up Art students ha ha and sometimes it worked. We were in the bookshop last week, Pete Townsend was doing a talk about his wife's ? New LP and illustrated book called the Seeker. Pete was in the Refectory ha ha
Hi Mike, wow, so Pete Townsend was just there? I love London. Always something going on. So can you go in to the Refectory where the gig happened? It's open to the public? If so, I have to take a look next time.
@@WhyNotGoPlaces well it's the space where it happened but now books and coffee and more books and intellectual people. Nice ! You won't get accosted ha ha . A video with Pete coming asap. Thank you again , I did a gig years back with Jon . And met him when he used to come to my Jazz club gigs I put on witha great mate Mark . He met Jon and introduced me. I admire Jon for sticking at it and keeping new stuff coming
Gwt mal 1 book world end, attention to detail is amazing, even lists soundchecks, banter, and even gigs that john, and sid both went to before the pistols, john lydon did attend the who live at leeds 1974, 2 years later the pistols play leeds poly, they did not go down that well, after all the grundy hype etc.thanks
@@WhyNotGoPlaces hi sorry some idiot has made rude remarks, cowards are cowards.kind regards to you, the idiot in question is called binman, sorry this has happened mate respect to you.
The only reason this guy is on this video is to talk about this very significant gig in history, and yet several times he says he does not want to talk about shit that happened in history. Huh? No one cares about anything he has to say except about this very single topic.
I think he was happy to talk about it, but it's so long ago, his memory is a bit foggy, and he has done many important things since then that maybe he seemed a bit reluctant. I enjoyed chatting with him and he was very sweet. Thanks for watching.
@@WhyNotGoPlaces was at a jazz thing in Worthing on the coast and met a sax player who was from Liverpool and he was at a lot of gigs at Eric's. We were talking about that while some hadcore jazz blokes were looking at us in disgust ha ha . I like too many styles of music, Disco being another. Will see him again and ask him if he was at the Sex Pistols gig
I have another mate who was at a Sex pistols gig in Welwyn garden city . And another who was at another gig where Sid was out of it and laid out on the floor
Steve wrote some words to lazy sod , im all alone give a dog a bone, john thought they were daft, so he re wrote all the words, still steve was a great guitar player.
May i be the first to congratulate you and your countrymen for wisely making a better choice this time as opposed to the last sham election {much like ourselves.;
@@BrianMarcus-nz7csso you saying all the hispanic and blacks who voted for Trump are dumb garbage? Racism is not good optics so walk away quietly with your tail between your legs... Fool
Yet another fantastic video Maggie. I don't think anyone that was there that evening would have had any idea of what whirlwind was about to blow through the UK with the Pistols. Great music heritage from John. Thank you both for the video.
I'm so glad you enjoyed it! Yes, John was very sweet to talk about that night, given that he has done many important things since then. The Vibrators were very early punk and it was a pleasure to chat with him.
Thank you for your dedication Maggie - much appreciated. From a Pistols fan for far too many years.....
Ha! Far too many years for me too! Thanks for watching.
Hi Maggie,
Another great video. Very interesting and a great chat with John.
The only times ive seen him are when he played with The Stranglers. Punk Rock history....You cant beat it!
All the best.
Andy
Hi Andy! Glad you liked it. Have fun on your Glen Matlock tour!
@WhyNotGoPlaces I'll be posting loads of pics on my page Maggie 🤟🏻
All the best
Thanks yet again, Maggie, for another video on the greatest band to come out of London in the last 50 years! It's a great interview on a great subject. Your enthusiasm is fantastic !
Glad you enjoyed it!
Another AWESOME vid. Thank you so much! 😊👍🎼🎸☮❤
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Thank you for giving me a mention and well done on this interview mate . Another great video
Hi Mike, Of course! You were so sweet to put me in touch with him. I really enjoyed our chat. The fact that he was there that night and also started The Virbators ... what a legend.
Nice one Mags excellent as always. Went to Denmark St myself just recently and stayed in the Pistols rehearsal space for the night (could only afford one night, bit pricey 🤑)Did a great Pub crawl with my brvva around all places they used to frequent. Worth every penny had a great time. Keep up the good work ❤
How fun! I bet that was a great experience. I love the old pubs in Soho. I went to The Ship on Wardour Street a couple of times on my last visit. Thanks for watching another video!
This might be of interest: "Between 1976 and 1982, DB Burkeman was a teenage school dropout and aspiring photographer, immersed in the punk scenes in the UK and US but struggling with substance abuse issues. While he spent his disposable income on self-medication, rolls of film remained undeveloped in a bedside drawer. Decades later, following his mother’s death, Burkeman cleared out his old bedroom and discovered a time capsule of the explosion of punk rock - now published in book form."
Thanks for the info! What a story. I'll look for that book.
Brilliant stuff as always Maggie. Very interesting
Thank you!
Great interview Maggie, I saw the Vibrators in '84 in Cambridge UK, great band, a very interesting guy Mr Ellis.
Thanks for watching another video! He is a very interesting guy. I never saw The Vibrators.I bet they were fun live.
Thanks maggie. Interesting interview,I didn’t realise he had done so much music wise. One of our local celebrities was Gary tibbs who gets a mention. I got given a white label pure mania off a friend who buys and sells records. He always gives me the punk records. Hope you are both well. Stuart
Thanks for watching Stuart! Yes, he's really a very interesting and important person in his own right. I almost felt embarrassed to ask too much about the SP gig, because even though he's happy to talk about it, it's not the most important music event in his career and he did so much throughout his life that's really significant, like starting The Vibrators. Hope you're well too.:)
Great video Maggie. Be good to hear from anyone who attended the pistols gig at the Kingfish club in Baton Rouge, January 9th 1978. This was reportedly the best gig of the USA tour.
Thanks for watching another one! I would love to speak to someone who attended that gig. I wish I had gone to it. It seems like that one on the American tour is the least talked about or photographed of the seven dates.
@WhyNotGoPlaces
Yeah just read a review online by Alex v Cook entitled "Throw something at em" The Sex Pistols in Baton Rouge. Apparently the best gig of the tour and also for the band stopping playing when the crowd showered the stage with money, which Steve and Sid picked up. The Kingfish Club was on Perkins Road which is today named the Bulldog.
Thanks Maggie,another great video
Glad you enjoyed it Andrew! Thanks for watching another one.
Reminds me of how snobbish it all was back then, particularly in London . The Stranglers were considered uncool back then but were brilliant and live trumped most other bands.
The Damned ruled
I thought ti was interesting when he said The Vibrators weren't considered cool by the press. They loved them in Europe though. So yes, it sounds like it was very cliquey back then. Thanks for watching!
I love The Damned too. So glad they're still going.
The Bromley Contingent where all middle class and surrounded the pistols and behaved like elitist's.
Love your channel Margaret!! Awesome to see it growing! 🎸🎶
Thanks! I'm enjoying making them.
Hi Maggie. Knox from the Vibrators runs a charity shop called Rock n roll rescue text to the Dublin Castle pub and venue in Camden Town, well worth calling in to see him text time you're in London, cheers for the great interview, Rob
Thanks for watching Rob! That's interesting because when we were in London recently and went to see Brigandage at the Dublin Castle, we went to a record shop there called Sounds That Swing. Great store. The owner was very interesting and Joe did a short video for his channel Tomorrow's History on the shop. I didn't notice the charity shop so it was probably closed when we were there. I'll definitely put that on my list next time I'm in London. I know a lot of people say Camden isn't what it used to be, but I still find it a great place to visit. Thanks again.
Dont bother.. Its crap and overpriced junk...
You can read Google reviews.. Record & Tape Exchanges were so much better esp the musical instruments shop in Notting Hill and used vinyl where snobbish ex degree students tried to be cool and unfriendly esp that prick Epic Soundtracks so beloved by the American bands because he was in????? Swell Maps (naps zz zz) or something... But he went out of his way to be nasty for no reason..
Your memory is definitely shot when you can’t remember being there and someone has to tell you…another great int, thankyou Maggie! I’d love a Steve Dior int…,😉
Thanks for watching! Yes, he does admit his memory is shot. He did remember Danny Kleinman calling him up and asking him to be there because the opening band "might give them some trouble." I'd love to interview Steve Dior. I will try to track him down. Thanks for the suggestion.
I saw The Vibrators twice - at Clouds in Edinburgh supported by The Skids in March 1978 and at Hawick Town Hall supported by Johnny & The Roccos in June 1978... So far as I recall, John Ellis was involved at both gigs.
I bet those were great gigs. Thanks for watching.
Cool interview
I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!
john ellis legend and a gentleman fantastic guitarist to boot
Thanks for watching! He is very sweet and very intelligent too. A true gentleman.
Lydon was wearing a Cambridge Rapist t-shirt for this first gig, I made drawings of him and Malcolm the next day detailing their clothing. Get in touch if you want to see the drawing.
There was more than 30 people there but not everyone was crowding the stage, Souxie and her crew were up front.
Lydon "come on you stupid gits, dance!" but the music wasn't danceable as the pogo was yet to be invented.
That's interesting. Thanks for the info. I'd love to see a photo from that gig. I read in Paul Gorman's book that he was wearing the I hate Pink Floyd t-shirt, but maybe that is incorrect. Were you there?
As far as the Bromley Contingent, it is well documented in many books, including Glen Matlock's books, that Simon Barker (of the Bromley Contingent) first saw the band when they played at Ravensbourne College in Chisleshurst on Dec. 9, 1975. This was their 6th gig. He loved the band and started inviting his friends (Siouxsie, Steve Severin, Billy Idol etc.) and the Bromley Contingent was born. (Caroline Coon gave them that name because most were from the Bromley area.) There was no Bromley Contingent at the first gig. Thanks for watching.
@@WhyNotGoPlaces yes I was there, my pals at St Martins who invited me knew Matlock who told them he had given up art for rock and roll. The refectory or canteen was big with a low ceiling. Maclaren spent the gig at the back standing on a chair aping "moves" for Rotten to mimic but I doubt Johnny saw him, most of the audience was crowded up front but there was a crowd scattered thinly around the hall trying to take it in. If you went to a Bowie or Roxy gig in those days you's see Souxie and her pals so I wasn't surprised to see her there. Perhaps it wasn't her? Maybe but my drawing of a snarling Lydon and frizzy haired Malcolm were drawn from memory the next day, the Cambridge Rapist T was quite memorable as were the brothel creepers Johnny wore.
That's so interesting. I'd love to see your drawing. My email is maggiearana1@gmail.com. were you friends with Glen? @@dnavid
Hey mate , anew Steve Jones interview is up on UA-cam with Gary Kemp and Guy Pratt . Thought of you for some reason?
I'll check it out. Thanks Mike!
THANKS MAGGIE
Thanks for watching again!
Brilliant!!
Glad you enjoyed it! It's my first Skype interview so I was nervous. I think I need to get a better camera and mike but I'm glad you liked it.
Maggie, you never seem to mention The Stranglers much in your videos - were you not a fan back in the day?
Stranglers we're punk rock
I didn't pay much attention to them in the 70's. I guess because they seemed older than the other bands I liked (such is the thought process of a young girl!), to be honest, but I did like the song No More Heroes. I remember hating the song Peaches when it came out though. But over the years I grew to like them more. I love the song Hanging Around - the heavy bass is amazing. So they weren't at the top of my list in the 70's but when I hear their songs now I turn up the volume. Thanks for watching.
@@Cli-y6w As I remember it, none of the early bands were anything like each other and the term Punk Rock came from Melody Maker or some other paper and then venues and promoters booked bands under the Punk Rock moniker and so the audience adopted some bands as punk bands that didn't even consider themselves as punk but jumped on the bandwagon once they got more attention, The Damned are one example I know of, maybe The Stranglers were also one such band as they were active well before the birth of the punk movement.
@@SoSurreal-f9pbullshit. Stranglers were never pub rock.. Go do some research, its not difficult to grasp. Joe Strummer was Mr Pub Rock until he jumped ship.. Dr Feelgood, Kilburn and High Roads, Nick Lowe etc was 'pub rock'
The Chats!
Great interview with John.If you want to see early Vibrators footage on you tube there is footage from the Rock Garden London 06/01/1977 doing SLF and the Red Cow 20/01/1977 doing London girls and nazi baby.Enjoy.
I'll check it out! Thanks for watching the interview. He's a sweet guy.
I love you for that, Maggie!
Glad you liked it! Thank you.
St martins school of Art is now Foyles book shop which used to be next door. Think Foyles bookshop owned the block ! Lucky them . But yeah remember 20 years ago going to Art shows in St Martins, degree end of year Art presentations . Me and my mate hoped to chat up Art students ha ha and sometimes it worked. We were in the bookshop last week, Pete Townsend was doing a talk about his wife's ? New LP and illustrated book called the Seeker. Pete was in the Refectory ha ha
Hi Mike, wow, so Pete Townsend was just there? I love London. Always something going on. So can you go in to the Refectory where the gig happened? It's open to the public? If so, I have to take a look next time.
@@WhyNotGoPlaces well it's the space where it happened but now books and coffee and more books and intellectual people. Nice ! You won't get accosted ha ha . A video with Pete coming asap. Thank you again , I did a gig years back with Jon . And met him when he used to come to my Jazz club gigs I put on witha great mate Mark . He met Jon and introduced me. I admire Jon for sticking at it and keeping new stuff coming
Gwt mal 1 book world end, attention to detail is amazing, even lists soundchecks, banter, and even gigs that john, and sid both went to before the pistols, john lydon did attend the who live at leeds 1974, 2 years later the pistols play leeds poly, they did not go down that well, after all the grundy hype etc.thanks
Hi mark, Thanks for watching another video. Which book is that? Sounds interesting.
@@WhyNotGoPlaces hi sorry some idiot has made rude remarks, cowards are cowards.kind regards to you, the idiot in question is called binman, sorry this has happened mate respect to you.
The only reason this guy is on this video is to talk about this very significant gig in history, and yet several times he says he does not want to talk about shit that happened in history. Huh? No one cares about anything he has to say except about this very single topic.
I think he was happy to talk about it, but it's so long ago, his memory is a bit foggy, and he has done many important things since then that maybe he seemed a bit reluctant. I enjoyed chatting with him and he was very sweet. Thanks for watching.
Vibrators Second band I saw in Coventry (Stranglers/London first) - cut my hair the next day
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Glad you liked it!
I'd like to know if anyone has any memories of the sex pistols gig at Eric's Liverpool
Someone out there must have been there on Oct. 15, 1976. I wonder if there's a live album. Thanks for watching another video.
@WhyNotGoPlaces I have asked around
@@WhyNotGoPlaces Brilliant interview Maggie
@@WhyNotGoPlaces was at a jazz thing in Worthing on the coast and met a sax player who was from Liverpool and he was at a lot of gigs at Eric's. We were talking about that while some hadcore jazz blokes were looking at us in disgust ha ha . I like too many styles of music, Disco being another. Will see him again and ask him if he was at the Sex Pistols gig
I have another mate who was at a Sex pistols gig in Welwyn garden city . And another who was at another gig where Sid was out of it and laid out on the floor
Why not ....
Every day when I get up i try to do something Creative,,,,🦕🤺👍🍺
Good words to live by. Thanks again for watching!
Why not wait until 50 years not 49??
I may do something next year too.
Steve wrote some words to lazy sod , im all alone give a dog a bone, john thought they were daft, so he re wrote all the words, still steve was a great guitar player.
Here's some advice on interviewing interesting people. Let them talk and dont interrupt until they finish their train of thought.....
I was nervous when the skype interview started ( my first one ) that I did chat too much but after a few minutes I relaxed. Thanks for watching.
Meant get😅😅 so sorry just type to fast. Mal 1 worlds end is superb.
May i be the first to congratulate you and your countrymen for wisely making a better choice this time as opposed to the last sham election {much like ourselves.;
Yup a new age of me me me selfishness just when we need to pull together,,,, of course America's great just ask a red injunction vull😮
@@BrianMarcus-nz7csso you saying all the hispanic and blacks who voted for Trump are dumb garbage? Racism is not good optics so walk away quietly with your tail between your legs... Fool
Thanks for saying I have good music taste.
@@WhyNotGoPlaces 🥰🍺🍄👍
Oh look at me I'm so politically incorrect. The election wasn't rigged crybaby.
Daniel kleinman has created the James Bond main titles for all but 1 Bond film since GOLDENEYE in 1995.
Yes, John Ellis mentioned to me that Danny Kleinman had a successful career working on the Bond films. Interesting guy. Thanks for watching!