Newish Commanders! Omnath 5c vs Kyodai vs Halana & Alena vs Narset EDH / CMDR game play

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  • @DarkEinherjar
    @DarkEinherjar Рік тому +121

    If you still wonder why people hate Koma, this game exemplifies why.

    • @sofer2230
      @sofer2230 Рік тому +13

      Honestly I'll take Koma over Infect any day, especially Inkmoth.

    • @jackinthebox1993
      @jackinthebox1993 Рік тому

      Istg

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  Рік тому +54

      @@sofer2230 Oh dang! I'm the complete opposite. I'll do infect over Koma.

    • @theaamanable
      @theaamanable Рік тому +7

      Nah, this game only got to last as long as it did because of Koma, a necessary evil

    • @Mach56gss
      @Mach56gss Рік тому +22

      @@theaamanablelonger, but was it really fun? Koma squashes almost all answers and having Koma triggers on your upkeep is a pain.
      At least inkmoth needs time to get counters and needs to swing to deal damage. That leaves the gruul player vulnerable to attacks. There isn’t much counterplay to Koma other than two sweepers, exile or bounce.

  • @weirdo82
    @weirdo82 Рік тому +42

    With Omnath, you don't have to reveal the card you get with his main phase trigger. You only reveal the card if you want to get the mana if it has three mana pips. It goes in your hand either way....

    • @18Zeke
      @18Zeke Рік тому

      Huh, I always thought there was an extra comma there

    • @The_Shrekoning
      @The_Shrekoning 9 місяців тому

      You do have to reveal it either way

    • @weirdo82
      @weirdo82 9 місяців тому +4

      @@The_Shrekoning Nope. His ability reads as follows:
      _At the beginning of your precombat main phase, look at the top card of your library. You _*_may_*_ reveal that card if it has three or more colored mana symbols in its mana cost. _*_If you do,_*_ add three mana in any combination of its colors and put it into your hand. _*_If you don't reveal it,_*_ put it into your hand._

  • @chrisvanderheiden12
    @chrisvanderheiden12 Рік тому +10

    The Tomer giggle in this intro always gets me

  • @sofer2230
    @sofer2230 Рік тому +30

    Phyrexian Vindicator in a 5-colour deck is ambitious! Can't believe it paid off.

    • @poiri
      @poiri Рік тому +5

      Omnath helps a lot if you have it on the field when you draw it, but ambitious is definitely right.

    • @salvamea
      @salvamea Рік тому

      ​@@poiriHow does Omnath help?

    • @sainturbain3461
      @sainturbain3461 Рік тому +1

      @@salvamea Cause it has 3 colored mana symbols, meaning if you get it from omnath's ability, you get 3 white mana which helps cast it

    • @salvamea
      @salvamea Рік тому +3

      @@sainturbain3461 Right! For some reason I had read Omnath so that they would need to be three different colors..

  • @MM-lv7iy
    @MM-lv7iy Рік тому +8

    Note for 5c Omnath: you don’t have to reveal the extra card you get. The reveal is for getting the three mana for the pips.

  • @Blacklodge_Willy
    @Blacklodge_Willy Рік тому +7

    No list yet for Halana and Alena huh, "alright keep your secrets".

  • @faerie7dragon
    @faerie7dragon Рік тому +2

    1st time seeing 3 fold signal pop-off like that 😊

  • @ErikTheRedd1
    @ErikTheRedd1 Рік тому +6

    It's unfortunate that Max's deck really didn't get to do much this game being outshined by all the other players
    Hopefully next game his deck actually gets to do something

  • @jackinthebox1993
    @jackinthebox1993 Рік тому +3

    Max was not leaving anytime soon this WHOLE game 🥲

  • @dominic5823
    @dominic5823 Рік тому +1

    When is that Halana and Alena List dropping ? And any chance that some lists from older videos get released like that Shalai, Voice of Plenty? I am more than intrigued to try those out! And thanks for posting some of the most clear Gameplay focused commander videos. It is really easy to follow along even if you look away for some time. Thanks!

  • @astonrichardson5288
    @astonrichardson5288 Рік тому +2

    Omnath supremacy! ❤

  • @alexbufmack852
    @alexbufmack852 Рік тому

    Can’t wait to see the Narset list!

  • @josemaravilla6955
    @josemaravilla6955 Рік тому

    Ive been waiting for that partners decklist! Very excited for when its finally up😊

  • @itzskyjack8184
    @itzskyjack8184 Рік тому

    I would like to see the omnath deck, the deck list, im looking forward to build one but im looking some deck online and this one is picking my curiosity.

  • @komull8181
    @komull8181 Рік тому

    Sorry bit lost here, how can max replicate a creature ? Im looking for the card LOl

  • @ingolf82
    @ingolf82 Рік тому +1

    Khenra Spellspear is insane as a Pauper commander, the flipped backside gets huge very quickly and kills with commander damage

    • @Vektor480
      @Vektor480 Рік тому

      One of my friends plays it on PDH and it's really a menace. If you let it breath it oneshots you, it's crazy!

    • @ingolf82
      @ingolf82 Рік тому

      @@Vektor480 it should honestly be banned, that's how powerful I think it is

  • @KromeDrone
    @KromeDrone Рік тому +3

    Ill be honest, I built Narset Prowess and Narset tokens, and the latter is just a better deck. Most prowess cards don't jive well in commander, and you're just better off leaning fully into the spell slinging/tokens build. A lot of instants/sorceries make tokens and it's a real fluid deck.
    Also, I thank god Koma is banned in my playgroup. Thing is a slog to play against as it's basically the Primeval Titan effect but much worse.

    • @flawlessR42
      @flawlessR42 Рік тому

      Dou you have a Decklist for it? Would be awesome because i am also building a Deck around here right now!
      Would be awesome to get some inspiration from your Deck!

  • @benjamingraf7067
    @benjamingraf7067 Рік тому

    Do you have the Omnath Deck List?

  • @deathpenguinjoe3644
    @deathpenguinjoe3644 Рік тому

    How does the vindicator replacement effect work with infect?

    • @danriemer9724
      @danriemer9724 Рік тому

      Even though infect deals damage in the form of -1/-1 counters infect still deals damage so vindicator still redirects it.

  • @zerowolf0006
    @zerowolf0006 Рік тому

    Hell ya those Cats & Cantrip tokens are dope and adorable

  • @Dikad132
    @Dikad132 Рік тому +1

    Thx for bringing omnath 5c its difficult to find good stuff about him. Would love tonsee the omnath list.

  • @ajaydassani9931
    @ajaydassani9931 Рік тому

    Which spell replicate?

  • @Gostodon
    @Gostodon Рік тому +1

    Classic Koma!

  • @markpro012
    @markpro012 Рік тому

    What card was replicating? Side note anyone know what sleeve color Simon is using? They are so sick.

  • @shaetindall6420
    @shaetindall6420 Місяць тому

    Power level of the Omnath deck seemed a little high for what’s happening. Koma, tutors, best fetch lands

  • @anactualdino
    @anactualdino Рік тому

    Y'know, I never really noticed Kyodai's face situation until this thumbnail where the "dragon" mouth is cropped off and now it's tripping me out.
    Forbidden information

  • @jeffhess8241
    @jeffhess8241 Рік тому

    Godbless for the pronouns. Based off just seeing their hands I couldn’t tell if they’re a woman or man so ty. This is very very important

  • @watcherofthehollow5223
    @watcherofthehollow5223 Рік тому +3

    Weird feeling, is Koma basically a stacks card? Like the fact that it can literally tap down anything feels super strong. Would rather die and get another game in then wait a hour

    • @jaredsmith3938
      @jaredsmith3938 Рік тому +2

      Play removal in your deck

    • @jamesgreenwood1703
      @jamesgreenwood1703 Рік тому +1

      @@jaredsmith3938it can be indestructible on command and not every color has exile removal

    • @weirdo82
      @weirdo82 9 місяців тому

      @@jamesgreenwood1703 It can be destroyed the turn it's played, and there's removal that gets past indestructible (exile, -6/-6 in counters or shrink effects).

    • @jamesgreenwood1703
      @jamesgreenwood1703 9 місяців тому

      @@weirdo82 I understand there are answers but that implies that you draw the card that can answer an indestructible threat at instant speed and that you KNOW it’s coming.

    • @weirdo82
      @weirdo82 9 місяців тому

      @@jamesgreenwood1703 But that's the same for many other cards? Everything from Koma, to Nezahaal, to Avacyn, to even little innocuous cards like Kutzil, if left alone they'll get out of hand.
      I both have Koma in several decks, and it's prevalent in my playgroup. It's been handled about as much as it's popped off. I even have him as a Commander in one deck.

  • @kevinkennedy-8606
    @kevinkennedy-8606 Рік тому

    Yeah Koma is busted. You need exile or else you get run over

  • @kittymcjesus149
    @kittymcjesus149 Рік тому

    Invasion of Fiora destroys only Legends or NonLegends. Not everything.
    Nevermind, I cannot read.

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  Рік тому +1

      "When Invasion of Fiora enters the battlefield, choose one or both"

    • @kittymcjesus149
      @kittymcjesus149 Рік тому

      @@MTGMuddstah Or BOTH.
      My dyslexic ass misread that. Kinda like it a bit better now.
      My bad..

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  Рік тому

      @@kittymcjesus149 No worries!

  • @ivernedit
    @ivernedit Рік тому

    First time I have ever seen three fold signal pop off

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  Рік тому +3

      This was literally my first time even seeing the card.

    • @ivernedit
      @ivernedit Рік тому

      @@MTGMuddstah I ran it in my ramos mutate deck but have never seen someone else play it lol

  • @CianDelano
    @CianDelano Рік тому +1

    Was a really interesting game, but god does it remind me why I hate Koma so much. I mean, I get why people pack decks with nothing but legendary creatures, as they tend to have amazing effects and are super powerful pieces, but... it just feels so boring sometimes... like "Look at how much money I threw at this game".deck... I dunno, maybe I'm just salty from seeing the same Legend Stuffed decks over and over again on Arena
    ... god I miss paper magic...

  • @LzyBn1987
    @LzyBn1987 Рік тому +4

    Koma is the worse

  • @chuchi741
    @chuchi741 Рік тому

    first

  • @RafaelGomez-ww7oe
    @RafaelGomez-ww7oe Рік тому +1

    to be fair feel like max was super targeted so in a way i was rooting for him the whole time. Interesting battles deck wish it got some time to breath.

    • @joebob7483
      @joebob7483 Рік тому +3

      Bc he was playing bigger threats

  • @KeroTheInvincible
    @KeroTheInvincible Рік тому

    I think every deck here is REALLY cool. I can't help but root for Omnath, no matter what form he's in, especially when he can have such an unreasonable amount of pips amongst his cards and get away with it.

  • @Antaoleumas
    @Antaoleumas Рік тому

    Third

  • @danpasquale1620
    @danpasquale1620 Рік тому +2

    Shocker, the Koma player won lmao never saw that coming! Might as well play the game on easy mode.

  • @Maudarkbass
    @Maudarkbass 5 місяців тому

    Nick (Kyodai) noob

  • @deathpenguinjoe3644
    @deathpenguinjoe3644 Рік тому +1

    Kroma is broken as fuck,