Gold Experience Requiem: Narrative Fan Misconceptions
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- In this video “Gold Experience Requiem: Narrative Fan Misconceptions” I will also be briefly reviewing and responding to Kaleb I.A, METAs, and Xforts take on King Crimson & Gold Experience Requiem with their most popular videos. I’ll also briefly go over Viva Reverie’s take on King Crimson. Finally, Hamon Beat & Meti Not The Bad Guy will be referenced throughout this video. All of this will be respectful towards the people I'm reviewing and responding to, as my frustration is with a certain portion of the JoJo Community, not them.
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King Crimson can only attack after time erase ends, meaning GER activated RTZ after Time Erase ended (imgur.com/a/NK... )
JOJO A-Go! Go! & JoJoVeller Barely Added Any New Info About GER That Wasn't Already In The Original Source Material/Manga (imgur.com/a/h4... )
Literal Time Erasure Contradiction, Basically Time Erase equals everything gone except the characters, yet we see the world still tangibly exists before it's even "brought back up" due to rtz (imgur.com/a/hw... )
Vento Aureo Bunko Vol. 10 (August 2005)
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“During the process of drawing Part 5: Vento Aureo, I thought to myself: What about those who regret being born at all? What are those people to do? People can't choose where they are born. Some are born into happy families, while others arrive in terrible circumstances. If "fate" or "destiny" is already determined, like some kind of law written by God or the movements of the stars, what are they to do? That is the theme of Part 5: Vento Aureo, as well as the protagonists and enemies who appear within it.”
“What should I do? If "fate" or "destiny" could be changed just by putting in effort or courage, it'd be much too easy to do so, and we wouldn't be able to call it "destiny" at all. Then, how will the protagonists break free?”
“The protagonists themselves showed me the answer. They didn't try to change their "fate" or their "destiny," but refused to abandon their sense of righteousness, no matter what situation befell them. They believed that happiness dwelled within hearts of justice. It came naturally to them.”
All this blatantly supports and confirms the stuff I was talking about regarding the theme of Part 5, Fate in JoJo generally, and that the ability of Requiem didn’t ACTUALLY change fate as what GER was supposed to do was predestined to happen. At least that’s how I look at things.
Random GER fans spreading misinfo regarding the JoJo Part 6 Time Stop "Strongest Stand Ability Ever" statement, saying it actually says "The Strongest Known Stand Ability" in some translation. Whatever translation that is from is dead wrong, I have it professionally translated and it says
"Star Platinum, the ability to stop time for a few seconds, it is the most powerful/strongest stand ability ever."
And to add insult to injury, if you go down the Google Translate and DeepL route, they never say “known” or “known to man”.
Finally people say the Star Platinum Time Stop statements are "Flowery language" or "Hyperbolic statements taken too literally" or "Hype statements", which is the most unself aware take and thought process because the EXACT same outlook can be equally applied to GER's RTZ statements being hyperbolic as well cause they're all saying the SAME thing in different ways. It goes both ways, you don’t get to establish a new standard of evidence and then NOT fulfill it. Stop the cope.
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Before anyone complains, I've stated this multiple times over time in my community tab and now I'll say it here: "Next week is some good ol Dead Space content, I wanna do less JoJo content this year."
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King Crimson can only attack after time erase ends, meaning GER activated RTZ after Time Erase ended (imgur.com/a/NKUootG )
JOJO A-Go! Go! & JoJoVeller Barely Added Any New Info About GER That Wasn't Already In The Original Source Material/Manga (imgur.com/a/h4jbFBu )
Literal Time Erasure Contradiction, Basically Time Erase equals everything gone except the characters, yet we see the world still tangibly exists before it's even "brought back up" due to rtz (imgur.com/a/hwIsfBq )
Vento Aureo Bunko Vol. 10 (August 2005) (jojowiki.com/Interview:Vento_Aureo_Bunko_Vol._10_(August_2005) )
“During the process of drawing Part 5: Vento Aureo, I thought to myself: What about those who regret being born at all? What are those people to do? People can't choose where they are born. Some are born into happy families, while others arrive in terrible circumstances. If "fate" or "destiny" is already determined, like some kind of law written by God or the movements of the stars, what are they to do? That is the theme of Part 5: Vento Aureo, as well as the protagonists and enemies who appear within it.”
“What should I do? If "fate" or "destiny" could be changed just by putting in effort or courage, it'd be much too easy to do so, and we wouldn't be able to call it "destiny" at all. Then, how will the protagonists break free?”
“The protagonists themselves showed me the answer. They didn't try to change their "fate" or their "destiny," but refused to abandon their sense of righteousness, no matter what situation befell them. They believed that happiness dwelled within hearts of justice. It came naturally to them.”
All this blatantly supports and confirms the stuff I was talking about regarding the theme of Part 5, Fate in JoJo generally, and that the ability of Requiem didn’t ACTUALLY change fate as what GER was supposed to do was predestined to happen. At least that’s how I look at things.
Is RTZ stated to be passive? No. Is RTZ stated to be automatic? No. Is GER stated to be instant or automatic? NO. Please don’t ever say the stand or ability is stated to be something when it was never stated at all, go with what’s objectively PROVABLE or the MOST probable.
Random GER fans spreading misinfo regarding the JoJo Part 6 Time Stop "Strongest Stand Ability Ever" statement, saying it actually says "The Strongest Known Stand Ability" in some translation. Whatever translation that is from is dead wrong, I have it professionally translated and it says
"Star Platinum, the ability to stop time for a few seconds, it is the most powerful/strongest stand ability ever."
And to add insult to injury, if you go down the Google Translate and DeepL route, they never say “known” or “known to man”.
Finally people say the Star Platinum Time Stop statements are "Flowery language" or "Hyperbolic statements taken too literally" or "Hype statements", which is the most unself aware take and thought process because the EXACT same outlook can be equally applied to GER's RTZ statements being hyperbolic as well cause they're all saying the SAME thing in different ways. It goes both ways, you don’t get to establish a new standard of evidence and then NOT fulfill it. Stop the cope.
Always chase a riddle down to the end, that’s one of my rules, Now then:
I do find your points on GER to be mostly on point (with like two possible exceptions, but I don’t care about those), today however I am here to address how these GER debunks whilst helpful to our community have created an equally scary force to GER-bots, a force I never thought possible, a force so indestructible I think it can even beat GOKU, this thing is known as YT Pucci. To those of you who do not know, YT Pucci is an inaccessible speed god that is a multiversal level threat and is practically unkillable. Apparently he can solo the entire JOJO Mutliverse and beat Gojo and Megukuna with no backup, and let’s not talk about how people stretch this guy's hacks till you got him beating friggin
Tooru:ua-cam.com/users/shortsl1dgvoxWWpY
And friggin DIO OVER HEAVEN: ua-cam.com/users/shortsm4LPX1z9Xsg
and at times friggin DR MANHATTAN!!!! Like where are we getting this from?
But not to worry, as Jobber shut down the GER glaze, today I will defeat YT Pucci and explain why in an honest to god, balls to the wall FAIR FIGHT, this man is not only not top tier, but is in fact, an enraged Crazy Diamond victim, that is only ever really a threat when he uses Batman and Toji Fushigoro’s favorite weapon: prep time (which you admit that anti Jotaro people must use but whatevs, also love how you say GER boeing OP is boring but not apply the same logic to MIH and don’t give me the he is the villain cap cause there is this thing called the SUKUNA CYCLE in JJK, which is proof that villains must to a degree follow this rule as well), with this we will attempt to answer the question, is MIH a fraud?
Initial red flags:
It would please many of you to know that Made in heaven to my knowledge, was never referred to as the strongest or ultimate stand by anyone in the JOJO canon or the guidebooks even. Nor from what I know has ever been called the fastest, that title always going to Star Platinum despite getting owned, right, HMM, put a pin in that it will be important later. I suppose there is the dumbass no other stand ability could overcome it (though that interview could be referring to the spectacle of the finale and when we take into account time stop pimp-slapping the ability it makes sense, also like if this is how you assert Pucci as the strongest, you have NO RIGHT calling GER a fraud, because I could just say, It’S AtTaCk pOwEr sUrPaSsEs tHaT Of aLl sTaNds to wank GER, the logic is the EXACT SAME, and the fact that some people (Jobber) say Pucci mostly lost to fate/plot armor, like you are exposing yourself as glazers cause the gojo glazers giving him infinite speed and uni AP say the same sh*t when the only sorta correct thing they say is the Sukuna likely would have lost without Mahoraga (but with Mahoraga it makes sense he won), and I will explain the logical reason why Pucci lost, INDEPENDENT OF FATE), but I will get to that later oh don’t worry. Another thing is that META’s in the most terrifying stands: The World Over Heaven, he cites sources that show Araki made TWOH for Eyes of Heaven so he changed his mind there too, and even if not, I have news: DIO DID NOT KNOW THAT JOTARO COULD STOP TIME WHEN HE DRAFTED HIS IDEAS FOR MADE IN HEAVEN, MAYBE THAT’S WHY HE CHOSE TWOH OVER MIH! (holy shit did I just plug a plot hole DW there is more where that came from).
Abilities:
TIME ACCELERATION, NOT INFINITE SPEED, TIME ACCELERATION. This ability allows Pucci to increase the speed of time starting quite slowly to eventually rates where the speed of time cannot be perceived as we saw in part 6, and the only one who can move along sid ethos is Pucci and god. But how fast can Pucci go?
As Pucci himself directly states when he is in the cell in the final JOJO episode that MIH DIDN'T TRAVEL BACK IN TIME but accelerated time so much the Universe got destroyed and a new one made, THAT IS NOT 5D it is a NOTHING FEAT, also Mr Infinite-Immeasurable speed pre time acceleration was getting outran and out reacted by Emporio (but because he was tired let's just say he scales in speed to a highballed C-moon/white snake). C-Moon the faster one got speed blitzed laughably by a part 6 Star platinum (Pucci couldn’t even summon his stand) who should be on par with a Prime star platinum who is 4x faster then base silver chariot, meaning that unless you gas weather report up to MFTL at least (which he is not he is FTL+ highballed due to the sun light feat white snake had being slower then that, which means weather would be MUCH SLOWER). Weather in Emporio's could be further low balled due to emporio lack of experience, and the time acceleration was needed due to Pucci being tired (cause if he was not it would not have been necessary), so the "He only needed 2 seconds of time acceleration copium doesn't work (and also even if it did, if we are using anime timestamps, then DIO and Jotaro can stop time for minutes), and also remember that Jotaro is WAY MORE THEN 4x as fast as Weather. No disrespect to you, but ya gotta stop glazing Pucci this much he is really not that OP, but aside from the 5d, 4d and the infinite to immeasurable speed cap your scaling would be good if you put the asterix: "with prep time" next to it. like if you only think Pucci is just faster than Jotaro by a lot that's fine but just say with prep time cause without it the fight would look like star platinum vs C-moon. Like for reals I cannot stand Batman and Toji glazers, but I still tolerate them due them admitting that their pookies need prep time to be that strong, please factor this in. Even completed, MIH couldn't reach infinite speed as Time Stop shut him down completely instead of just slowing him (and time stop is the ability to make zero units of time pass and infinite speed defines as the ability to cross a distance with zero units of time passing, so this should’ve been a cakewalk but he doesn’t have this speed so guess not). I’m unsure to what degree this helps GER, a base Pucci in a fair fight with no prep or knowledge about the opponent when placed face to face in an open field 20m away CANNOT beat a base Part 6 Jotaro if we subject both of them to these conditions. Jotaros mistake using the speed of time was assuming Pucci was moving at semi normal human speed, he forgot to factor in C-moon’s reaction and combat speed that’s why he lost. The formula is C-moon highball (low MFTL max) feat X the speed of time = MIH speed at any given time. It takes Pucci minutes for his acceleration to reach Jotaro speed and he and Jotaro didn’t actually make contact till after he flung from the tree. Meaning in a fight Jotaro blitzes Pucci before he can sufficiently accelerate time. And if both fighters know each other’s abilities then Jotaro will know to stop time before Pucci sufficiently accelerates time to shorten Time Stop and then it’s even more EnricOVER for Pucci. Part 6 Jotaro is just like Superman being defeated by Batman or pre awakened teen Gojo against Toji, he lost to prep time. And the final argument here is this: Made In Heaven can accelerate time immediately to infinity, NO. Two reasons: 1. Novel Kars has Made In Heaven Ultimate Requiem, and the author apparently knows or is associated with Araki, and the “Ultimate Requiem” in that is the ability to accelerate time to infinitely, INSTANTLY. If Made In Heaven could do this by default, why not just call it “Made In Heaven” he had no problem doing that for Killer Queen, OK BUT LIKE THE ACTUAL REASON WHY NO: this means that the entire final battle of Part 6 is bad writing, because if Pucci could accelerate instantly, then there is not reason he wouldn’t have just killed Jotaro as he wasn’t trying to enjoy his powers (UNLIKE DIO) he wanted to finish the plan and if Made In Heaven could do this since there is no reason that Pucci wouldn’t use this ability then this is character assassination at the highest level as it makes no sense why Pucci wouldn’t get rid of Jotaro as soon as possible, and unlike some people (Jobber, Doxe(somewhat)), my mouth isn’t all over MIH’s parts to the point where I will throw the AUTHOR under the bus to glaze him. Finally even if time acceleration was the stronger ability (it very clearly is not), this of it like this (Time acceleration) is a guy that can punch through anything and like nothing can stop him he is the strongest, but like he can only punch at bullet speed VS a guy that can punch hard enough to knock a man out (Time Stop), that can punch at light speed, put them on a field 20m apart tell them to fight who wins, the one who punches faster, TLDR, Time acceleration being stronger is meaningless if Time Stop can knock out the Time acceleration user before he activates his op ability (which for Time stop it takes like 3 secs and time acceleration it takes MINUTES), so even if Araki’s statement is true whilst GER statement is not, it doesn’t matter.
In any open field with the fair fight against Enraged Crazy Diamond, he would run at him and get blitzed and can only win if he is able to realize he must run which Josuke won’t let him do. Against Jotaro it’s even worse because time stop and a stand leap can end the fight even if knowledge of abilities is exchanged pre fight, as Pucci would NOT BE ABLE TO SUFFICIENTLY ACCELERATE TIME FAST ENOUGH TO BLITZ IN A FAIR FIGHT, if you take nothing else away from my comment, make it that.
Thank you for listening and I hope I wasn’t too disrespectful, I also apologize for a lack of structure but I have stuff to do so yeah.
P.S Johnny did not die to WOU, watch Hamon beat’s Araki forgot as well as his one on p6
sorry of the long comment and hopefully I wasn't too disrespectful, i am sorry if I was
here is the full source: docs.google.com/document/d/1iPevaMyTeO0LKOWIiS1YvtfOiFZuJd97u7DcnzVRp8E/edit?usp=sharing
Yep. You made me overthink about GER's abillities. Feeling kinda frustrated and angry. Hate to lose in that think I am good or at least where I thought I am good. Also I've read interview by myself about. Still don't know, why Araki pulled of in the description of guidebooks, that GER can be measured by stats of stand. Still doesn't understand why every action even in KK where Diavolo is free from fate while it activated is also reverted (I've read interviews about part 5 and 6 and saw panel of MiH) And other thing I still didn't get. If 100% proballities changing isn't fate changing so what is it, because 100% proballity is scene where everything will happen anyway like sealed fate, 'cause their are both bonded with causality and circumstances which leads to that 100% sealed point, no matter what, and even interviews and other things you brought, could it be that Araki could be wrong at this point? Maybe mentallity their didn' t try to change the fate, but, logically to me, Giorno and KK are still changing events, that would happen. Maybe you can explain, where is the difference?
Anyway, sorry for causing disturbing to you by rushing in the comments. I kinda feel myself too shamed.
@@barnabassebesteny1490 “also love how you say GER being OP is boring but not apply the same logic to MIH and don’t give me the he is the villain cap cause there is this thing called the SUKUNA CYCLE in JJK, which is proof that villains must to a degree follow this rule as well)”
When I say GER being OP is boring, in context I said it in was that:
“If GER were truly above every stand in the entirety of JoJo, forever. Stats and ability wise, would you even want him? Is it really interesting that GER will, no matter what, RTZ any and everything, and immediately one shot its opponent? There will be no room for conversation for any stand, araki statement, etc to challenge GER because there IS no conversation, the stand is just a static constant that wouldn’t allow the stand powers and feats in JoJo to grow narratively to new heights because what’s the point if GER from the past will always be stronger? It’d all just be boring and stagnant to be held back by a past event that happened for like 4 chapters.”
So no, the same logic can’t be applied to MiH because it’s in response to a large part of the community that thinks GER solo’s literally everything, is omnipotent & omniscient, etc. I think MiH is powerful, and could be OP depending on who he’s fighting. But I don't think he's truly above every stand in the entirety of JoJo, forever, Stats and ability wise, etc. Hell no lol. There’s a lot of stands that can or could defeat MiH.
“It would please many of you to know that Made in heaven to my knowledge, was never referred to as the strongest or ultimate stand by anyone in the JOJO canon or the guidebooks even.“
That whole small paragraph was a waste of time cause you literally admit right after down below that MiH was referred to as the strongest by Araki lmao.
“I suppose there is the dumbass no other stand ability could overcome it (though that interview could be referring to the spectacle of the finale and when we take into account time stop pimp-slapping the ability it makes sense, also like if this is how you assert Pucci as the strongest, you have NO RIGHT calling GER a fraud, because I could just say, It’S AtTaCk pOwEr sUrPaSsEs tHaT Of aLl sTaNds to wank GER, the logic is the EXACT SAME”
The statement for MiH of Araki saying “No stand ability could overcome it” in context is about the finale of JoJo Part 6 and the totality of the Parts 1-6 universe. Also time stop was briefly shortened by MiH’s effects. And yes I do have a right to call GER a fraud, everything you could say is something i’ve already addressed in the video lol:
“As what Araki says here is identical to the GER JoJo-A-GoGo statement people love to wag in people's faces of Araki saying “GER’s Attack Power Surpasses that of EXISTING stands””
“It is very extrapolatory to use the statement beyond stand powers means beyond any and all throughout all of jojo. As it’s such a general statement that could be interpreted in many different ways”
“Luckily the narrative provides us with a more specific answer right after, further clarification is brought to light saying in continuation to beyond stand powers “Beyond what already exists”. If the arrow's power was beyond all stands in the entirety of jojo, there wouldn’t have needed to be that type of past and present clarification.”
“A good example to reword the statement to fit the quota of the ability of requiem going beyond all stands in jojo is “Beyond stand powers, eternally beyond all that did, do, and will soon, exist”, being conservative this could be interpreted as a statement only applying to the Parts 1-6 Universe, and being very extrapolatory this could be interpreted as a statement that would apply to all of jojo, forever. The narrative seems to clarify that GER’s ability, requiem, is the benchmark of the series within part 5 and below. It’s the pinnacle of power we’ve seen so far narratively. And GER would have had the strongest stand ability had Araki stopped writing JoJo after Part 5.”
So no, I'm not wanking GER and/or MiH, and the logic I provide in my own quotes from my own video would apply to any stand ability, even Time Stop. You’ve misinterpreted me and made a mistake that led you to wank GER on the point you thought you were proving. imgur.com/a/jojo-go-go-jojoveller-barely-added-any-new-info-about-ger-that-wasnt-already-original-source-material-manga-h4jbFBu
“and the fact that some people (Jobber) say Pucci mostly lost to fate/plot armor, like you are exposing yourself as glazers cause the gojo glazers giving him infinite speed and uni AP say the same sh*t when the only sorta correct thing they say is the Sukuna likely would have lost without Mahoraga (but with Mahoraga it makes sense he won), and I will explain the logical reason why Pucci lost, INDEPENDENT OF FATE),”
JoJo Part 6, What A Wonderful World, Vol.17, Ch.158. Pg.9:
Emporio: “Don’t you understand? You lost to fate!”
There’s no glazing, there’s only an indisputable fact. And you’ve just exposed yourself as someone unable to read lol. I’ve never seen someone be this confident and get this easily swept with one source and a statement that destroys everything you just said. And to top it off you go on some irrelevant tangent, which you do a lot imo in general in this long post, and yes that does irritate me.
“I have news: DIO DID NOT KNOW THAT JOTARO COULD STOP TIME WHEN HE DRAFTED HIS IDEAS FOR MADE IN HEAVEN, MAYBE THAT’S WHY HE CHOSE TWOH OVER MIH!”
SOURCE? Lol
“Abilities:
TIME ACCELERATION, NOT INFINITE SPEED, TIME ACCELERATION.”
Araki thinks and accepts that MiH can only be interpreted in two ways in the Stone Ocean Bunko Vol.11 (February 2009):
“Time itself was getting faster and faster and outpacing human senses, approaching infinity itself, or at least as close to infinity as possible.”
Time acceleration is either Infinite speed, or as close to Infinity as possible (A Googolplex, look it up). I personally think either interpretation is fine.
“As Pucci himself directly states when he is in the cell in the final JOJO episode that MIH DIDN'T TRAVEL BACK IN TIME but accelerated time so much the Universe got destroyed and a new one made, THAT IS NOT 5D it is a NOTHING FEAT, also Mr Infinite-Immeasurable speed pre time acceleration was getting outran and out reacted by Emporio.”
Technically he travels to the future, but it seems you’re only here to respond to my REALLY old points/videos in the current day, it’s just odd. And no I don’t hold the same position for MiH and I made it clear that the immeasurable speed thing was a highball, and not somewhere I’d reasonably put MiH Pucci. Also, I NEVER SAID MIH PUCCI IS 5D, STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH YA DOPE. Finally why is Pucci walking very casually, and canonically tired as stated by Jolyne, no time acceleration on, getting “outran and out reacted by Emporio” actually relevant or noteworthy? And he was STILL right behind and close to Emporio during most of that lol. Lame ah point.
“C-Moon the faster one got speed blitzed laughably by a part 6 Star platinum (Pucci couldn’t even summon his stand) who should be on par with a Prime star platinum who Weather in Emporio's could be further low balled due to emporio lack of experience
No disrespect to you, but ya gotta stop glazing Pucci this much.”
Again, more irrelevant points to MiH, who tf cares about C-Moon, C-Moon didn’t blitz Star Platinum obviously, but you know who did 2 times? MiH. Also Emporio wasn’t even controlling Weather Report, and Pucci speaks separately to both Emporio & Weather to stop the assault.
JoJo Part 6, What A Wonderful World, Vol.17, Ch.158. Pg.7:
Emporio: “I’m not controlling it.”
JoJo Part 6, What A Wonderful World, Vol.17, Ch.158. Pg.8:
Pucci: “Stop this!! Weather, Emporio!”
Finally, Weather’s hidden ability of oxygen poisoning was active from the moment the stand was summoned, and it took 4 full pages until Pucci started using MiH to accelerate time again. Even if you don’t think the ability was immediately active, Weather itself had more than enough time to activate it before Pucci used MiH to accelerate time. Emporio and Weather never reacted to MiH Pucci. But keep in mind that Emporio implies that Weather already started filling the room with oxygen from jump before the acceleration of time.
JoJo Part 6, What A Wonderful World, Vol.17, Ch.158. Pg.6:
Emporio: “It’s ALREADY accumulated a huge amount of oxygen into this room…”
@barnabassebesteny1490
“Your scaling would be good if you put the asterix: "with prep time" next to it. a base Pucci in a fair fight with no prep or knowledge about the opponent when placed face to face in an open field 20m away CANNOT beat a base Part 6 Jotaro if we subject both of them to these conditions. It takes Pucci minutes for his acceleration to reach Jotaro speed and he and Jotaro didn’t actually make contact till after he flung from the tree. Meaning in a fight Jotaro blitzes Pucci before he can sufficiently accelerate time. And if both fighters know each other’s abilities then Jotaro will know to stop time before Pucci sufficiently accelerates time to shorten Time Stop and then it’s even more EnricOVER for Pucci.”
Going by your standards of a “Fair fight”, i’m going to immediately eliminate your argument of Pucci taking time to accelerate or whatever, as you are actively and objectively making the fight unfair by having MiH Pucci be a lower speed than Jotaro (Which is pretty biased lol, like c’mon). For the sake of making it objectively fair, MiH Pucci’s speed will start even to Part 6 Jotaro’s. Jotaro cannot speed blitz MiH Pucci, not because of their speed being initially equal, but Star Platinum has a range of 2 meters, and for some reason you think that stand can stretch 20. In character, Jotaro will not use time stop first, it’s always a last resort or when Jotaro realizes the seriousness of the situation. Anyways both clash even in strength and speed, oh yea I think I forgot to say this, MiH Pucci almost decimates Jotaro on the first encounter only for Jotaro be saved by Anasui, then MiH Pucci on the second encounter blitzes and one shots Jotaro only for Jotaro to be saved by Anasui AGAIN, then in the final encounter Jotaro is speed blitzed and one shotted (The Jotaro in Part 3 being able to take hits from The World) along with the entire stone ocean cast excluding Emporio as MiH Pucci chose not to attack him yet, and Jolyne whom MiH Pucci paid no mind to as she was struck with some of the knives he threw at her, probably thinking one of them to be fatal enough to put her out of the game. NOW, back to the fight, after the clash MiH Pucci would gain some distance, and both Pucci and Jotaro would assess the situation, Pucci would play it more careful like he always does in Part 6 and simply wait out Jotaro until he believes he’s fast enough to just speed blitz, and also would try and bait out any other ability Jotaro could have (Like Time Stop) for the sake of caution. Jotaro would bank on time stop and can only sit, wait, and try to sense Pucci like he did in Part 6 cause that’s the safest bet and there’s no way he and Star Platinum are running down Pucci. MiH Pucci simply wins this fight more times than not, the dude is just way too careful and smart for Jotaro to handle here. Plus there’s also the fact that Jotaro would be off guard when his first time stop against MiH Pucci is shortened, which almost screwed him over in the canon first encounter.
“1. Novel Kars has Made In Heaven Ultimate Requiem, and the author apparently knows or is associated with Araki”
I’m gonna stop you right there, the novels are non canon, written by different authors that aren’t Araki, and Araki never directed or supervised any of them.
“Finally even if time acceleration was the stronger ability (it very clearly is not),”
In and out of context it is, which I fully explain in my video and somewhat here.
“In any open field with the fair fight against Enraged Crazy Diamond”
I’m gonna stop you right there as well, ECD loses to MiH Pucci in an actually fair fight for similar reasons I brought up for Part 6 Jotaro losing
“P.S Johnny did not die to WOU, watch Hamon beat’s Araki forgot as well as his one on p6”
The Stand leaves did not move the boulder onto Johnny, in the image he shows, we see the leaves very close all around Johnny, and that there are no leaves even remotely close to the boulder. Finally, the stand leaves only slide things horizontally from point A to B yet we clearly see the motion lines on the boulder that fell on Johnny pointing diagonally. The stand leaves did not kill Johnny. A Calamity did by definition.
Calamity definition: “An event causing great and often sudden damage or distress; a disaster.”
Thank you for listening and I hope I wasn’t too disrespectful, i’m ngl alot of your arguments are pretty dishonest and not well thought out imo.
Nope Araki isn't wrong, he's pretty consistent about how fate can't actually be changed and there's only the illusion of changing fate, when in actuality that very thing was predestined, explained with rolling stones, it's the theme of Part 5, Araki explains this in an interview, the MiH graph explains this as a general thing for the JoJo Cosmology, and even Emporio acknowledges it in his final confrontation with Pucci saying "Destiny is predetermined, and can't be changed", Pucci in the final battle is Fated to lose, not to Emporio, but Weather, which makes the moment more impactful when Emporio tricks Pucci into giving him Weather Report. This is as straight forward I can make it with what we have, it's consistent. Also don't apologize man it's all good, and don't feel ashamed, all this stuff can get pretty Bizarre lol
that hamon beat ratio makes me mad to this day
yo hi meta
Over an hour of explaining just for Hol Horse to still clap, sad honestly
Jobber in 2097 gonna still be making GER content, and i will still be watching it
He was trapped in revert to zero
if the translator just wrote "oh yeah king crimson erases people's memory of time for a brief period in a radius around diavolo" we could all be spared a headache. good video, I especially liked the reference at 26:46
That's now how it works, diavolo is totally separate from reality during the skip and ppl are force to perform the action that was fated to be carried by them no matter the reality change by diabolo
Jobber is going to create a time machine just to go back in time and beat the idea for a requiem stand out of araki's head
Watching this is like planting an apple tree and then years later eating a juicy apple straight off the branch.
Big ups
Impossible.. he’s unleashed 120 percent of his reading comprehension.
People that sat king crimson doesn’t actually erase time gotta be the dumbest people ever there argument always being “ummmm it’s impossible to erase time ☝️🤓” BRO we are watching anime not every little thing needs to make 100% Scientifical correct and follow the rules of the real world most stands in jojo are impossible irl does that mean stands aren’t actually real and it’s just a bunch of mentally I’ll people in a delusion 💀 is all of dragon ball just bulmas dream coz last I checked universe destroying aliens don’t exist on earth
Did this guy forget that the JoJo universe works similar to the real world?
@@TamakiDamoismyhusbandono it doesn't, it literally is stated, stands can ignore physics
Based comment. KC stated to be time manipulation stand. Erasing memory doesn’t do anything with time. “Perception” of time theory can be born only in brain dead mind.
@@ohhellwhereami2574 If KC erased time in a literal sense then everyone has inaccessible speed, that just isn't true.
What's your source senator?
@@TamakiDamoismyhusbando first of all lil bro inaccessible speed is fan term second time erases erases not goes null, it's from diavolo perspective physically and mentally for others
Now i know who's the ultimate stand!
GER
Weather report would have bodied pucci if pucci's gravity wasn't preventing him. Weather didn't even get a chance to summon a Permain Extinction Sulfuric Acid Hypercane.
@@diegodankquixote-wry3242 The Ultimate Stand
@@diegodankquixote-wry3242 what-
Well there’s a reason he was taken out of the story till it was necessary
In an anime we’re a bunch of people can control/manipulate literal time it’s weird how people only have a problem with diavolo.
It’s literally stated everywhere he erases time if his ability really was just effecting memory it would of just said that in the stand description
It just doesn’t differentiate between the perception of time and “physical” time. If you erase someone’s memory of the last five minutes they’ll still feel like time was erased. This makes KC’s ability more consistent as well.
Araki was just using broad language.
@@thelettucebarrel7784 how does this make KC more consistent though? erasing time and erasing the "perception" of time dosen't actually change any of the "plot holes" with time erasure, if anything it just creates more plot holes since you got characters like diavolo saying the exact opposite of what you want him so say like "none but I diavolo, can move within erased time" which dosen't really make sense since according to this theory everybody moves within erased time but they don't know it, and also diavolo dosen't just say that time or the "perception of time" is erased, he also say everything within that time is erased from existence(at least in the viz translation) .
@@goku-bb5si But they literally do move in the erased time though, they carry out their fated path, they just aren’t aware of what’s happening, the only one who is is Diavolo. If there really wasn’t any time then the characters wouldn’t be moving, either that or they all have beyond infinite speed according to you. And I’m aware of the already existing plot holes that don’t change no matter what but this way of the ability working is consistent and doesn’t contradict what Diavolo is saying at all.
@@thelettucebarrel7784 doesn't differentiate between the perception of time and "physical" time gotta be the weirdest argument against king crimson by that logic can’t you just apply that to every time related ability does DIO say he actually stops physical time coz if he does he wouldn’t of been able to move or see
@@electricburst0986 No, because Dio actually stopping time is consistent. It doesn’t matter that he can see and move while still in stopped time, it’s still consistent. Diavolo isn’t, despite erasing time there is still motion and movement, both things that are impossible if time truly were erased unless you try to argue that every JoJo character just has immeasurable speed. Someone’s perception of time still falls under “time” just like the actual force of time.
Ok, but why doesn't Diavolo just use a spear? Is he stupid?
He dosen't have a minecraft inventory.
He can only use his body considered stuff in timeskip like blood
Don't say his clothes are still intact in time skip, do you want to see 90%of character naked because realistically their power would tear or restrict them from wearing so
Very excited to watch this, I’ll edit later once I’m done but ngl kinda shocked to see the Diavolo render I posted on DA at 17:08
Edit: Always chase a riddle down to the end. I agree with all the evidence and arguments you propose in your video, only thing I would consider a “disagreement” is that GER is Base Silver Chariot level, I personally consider him to be on Armor Off SC *speedwise* at least, due to how hard he was blitzing KC, and I think there’s enough narrative evidence and implications, along with their first fight that Polnareff wouldn’t have had a better time fighting diavolo with his armor off, basically trading any form of defense to give him more speed, which wouldn’t even help much in the predicting slash at Diavolo in their second encounter.
Yea speed wise in the video and currently I think GER above Armor On Silver Chariot in speed, basically Armor Off Silver Chariot level, and I'll even quote exactly what I said:
"GER feat wise can blitz Diavolo’s perception, who can react to Silver Chariot. Putting GER above Armor On Silver Chariot in speed."
You might've misremembered what I said, which is reasonable, it is a long video after all. Also with the whole "Narrative Evidence and Implications" with why Polnareff didn't make SC's armor come off against Diavolo is honestly pure speculation. Silver Chariot's armor only came off two times in JoJo, both times in Part 3, it's rare, and you'd think Polnareff would use that more, especially in serious fights but he doesn't, not even to cut hangman lol. It's a similar situation to Star Platinum's "Star Finger" that was used once and never showed up again. Or Star Platinum super inhale, he coulda used that against Aqua Necklace when the stand was simply mist to suffocate him, and since Aqua Neckless is no where near as strong as Star Platinum the stand would be helpless to do any sufficient damage to Star Platinum before he suffocates, but maybe that's just speculation on my part. But what is fact is that we never get a reason as to why stands like Silver Chariot and Star Platinum don't use their rare abilities, which leaves us the consumers to just speculate without having a concrete or provable answer.
Anyways, thank you for watching and giving me your input!
Always chase a riddle down until the end, for your confusion about how did the idea of King Crimson erasing time literally became really dominant in the fandom it's simple really, people compares it to other main villains stands who had a level of manipulating time powers, basically people found it really odd if KC time erase was the only one not being literal while all other main villains with their time manipulating powers like Stopping Time,rewinding time and accelerating time were literal
So I think it's understandable how people to understand KC they would try to compare it to Stands that on paper sound like they have the same domain of power, it's wrong but i get how they ended up thinking like that
Anyway great video i agree mostly with all your takes with only some minor gripes with some of your arguments(i am too tired right now to formulate why) but they're ultimately minor and doesn't disprove your end point
Goat hamon beat reference 😱
Always chase a riddle down to the end. Great video! Can't wait to see more content from you!
Honestly I kinda believe Kaleb’s GER video is what really started this ger is invincible thing. Also why tf is this phenomenon very similar to the Gojo effect happening right now, Gojo fans are even having a mental breakdown trying to gaslight themselves into forgetting that Gojo said he didn’t think he could win even if sukuna didn’t have 10 shadows. The same thing would probably happen to GER fans if GER ever lost
57:00 1:32:45 time stamping to remind myself what happens when l star platnum fights ger or Diavolo
I think this video perfectly illustrates a problem in the Powerscaling community: Context. Simple Context.
Now you do talk about it in the video, but I'd just like to add my own view on it. A major reason so many characters are misunderstood in the Powerscaling community is a misunderstanding of context. What do I mean by this? Take for example your comparison between Gold Experience and Star Platinum. Without "Context" to point you in the right direction, most would believe Gold Experience Requiem is stronger simply because of on screen showing's, and explanations of their powers in the show or manga. HOWEVER, looking deeper into guidebooks and author interviews, we find that it's more than likely the opposite because of those overwhelming amounts of statements. In this case, the majority points in Star Platinum's favor. Granted, you could say Quality>Quantity in some scenarios. However, because of the lack of said feats to prove Gold Experience Requiem is stronger, and the narrative implications implied by Araki himself, in this case, Star Platinum would narratively and logically be stronger than Gold Experience Requiem. Also the fact that the greater of evidence beats the lesser amount when talking about powerscaling (As well as just objective arguments in general), that proves the point of the person arguing it.
People try to bend the context to better their own agenda rather than looking at the objective fact. And while that is just human nature to have a bias to one side or another, you have to have to back up and prove that bias. It's just a simple misunderstanding that everybody needs to learn. And I would know since I'm guilty of unhealthy bias toward a character.
this isn't a cooking tutorial why is his grill on fire?
Always chase a riddle down to the end, that’s one of my rules
First off before I ask my questions I misty warn that I may be the worlds biggest GER glazer, BUT your video was very well put together and extremely informative and presented a damn good argument.
Now I have a few questions
1)Why does Giorno like immediately lose after the Ora barrage and is flung into the building couldn’t he just like heal and get right back to the fight
2)How is jotaro able to ts after the initial RTZ if his will is reverted to 0 does rtz only revert the first will or any will afterwards
3)While GER stand description does only refer to rtz therefore you should come to the conclusion that those stats are zero because similar stands who don’t have any offensive abilities have 0 stats as well. Doesn’t MIH description refer only to time acceleration therefore only speed should be referred to yet it still has other stats that don’t correlate to its ability and the fact that those other stands with NA don’t have offensive capabilities, but Ger does. For example burning down the house, both its ability and the stand itself don’t have any real offensive capabilities which is why its stats are 0 or NA, but while mih ability of accelerating time doesn’t really have a precision aspect to it mih the stand does which is why that alongside its other stats have actual values, but with GER only rtz is being measured despite for both stands only their abilities are listed.
4) Also while rtz may not be able to revert time acceleration, wouldn’t he still be able to revert any attack from pucci cause time acceleration isn’t really an attack so it wouldn’t meet rtz requirements but pucci say trying to slash would be. And why would time acceleration affect rtz if it’s not a time based ability and isn’t reversing time it’s just setting the effect of the action and the will to 0?
Sorry if the questions seem confusing, GER my favorite stand and I simply want to understand its abilities fully cause tbh I don’t think it’s the strongest but I feel like while ts may be more powerful than rtz giorno still has a huge arsenal of abilities and he’s pretty damn smart for a 15 year old bro was doing trigonometry mid battle and I think he would definitely have a good chance of beating jotaro.
1. Giorno is physically stat stomped by Star Platinum and the blows he’d be taking would be far above anything he’s taken, for example when Giorno took a hit from King Crimson for the first time, he keeled over like a sack of potato’s and was taken out of the fight briefly. If that’s what happens to Giorno from King Crimson that’s relative to Silver Chariot which Star Platinum is >>>>>> above. There’s completely no shot Giorno is surviving or remaining conscious in any form.
2. I already addressed that in the video when I went over why Star Platinum won the narrative fight, please rewatch that part as I (Like Giorno) don’t like to repeat myself.
3. MiH is referring to the stand physically, and since the speed of the stand is tied to the accelerated rate of time, that is easily physically qualifiable. RTZ isn’t physically quantifiable by it’s own nature and how it works, a thing I did explain in detail why in the video.
4. No, time acceleration is directly tied to MiH Pucci’s state of time and speed. Since you agree that GER cannot revert MiH, GER cannot revert Pucci as well. Also Causality Manipulation is a time manipulation, because it takes time to get from point A to B or 0 to 1. Time is essential to the equation, it’s how JoJo as a series and cosmology consistently presents it.
But other than that yea I understand and I appreciate you watching the full video and commenting, being open minded, respectful, honest, etc. And yea Giorno has a pretty versatile and dangerous kit, and there’s a chance to beat Jotaro with prep, but in a straight forward 1v1 Jotaro just overpowers with sheer physical might and stronger hax
@@JobberGodot
1. okay so even if giorno does “die” or go unconscious couldn’t GeR still heal him considering it acts outside of giornos input and has a separate awareness and as we see with harvest it was able to move for a short period of time even after its user was atomized?
2. Fair enough but i have a less serious question and more so a hypothetical cause if 15yo giorno is that smart and already performing pretty good with little to no experience how well do you think a hypothetical 26 yo giorno (age during stone ocean) would perform? Just a fun hypothetical
3. This connects to the 4th question as well. Rtz is a time manipulation ability due to how causality works, wouldn’t that therefore make it quantifiable if its sort of doing the opposite of mih which is speeding up time another form of time manipulation which is why it can have stand stats. I may just be getting the wording mixed up. Also if time acceleration does affect rtz how would it affect it, like it only reverts to after zero or would it like revert faster would puccie be unaffected? Or is there just no way to tell how the two would interact?
Also thanks for the quick response and being willing to actually converse. And another thing is that the game asbr makes it so that GER is affected by time stop but not by MIH time acceleration which I found interesting not sure what that adds tho since it’s a game.
1. No, not only is there zero evidence for that but we’ve seen multiple times in JoJo that when the user and/or stand is completely defeated/unconscious. The stand and it’s ability quickly go away, especially with automatic stands as the premise of most those fights is to take out the user directly in order for the stand and it’s ability to go away. And what’s worse for GER is that while self autonomous, it’s still link to Giorno to the point where if Giorno took damage, GER would as well as shown Diavolo’s Epitaph, and GER only reaffirms Diavolo of what he saw to be true. Anyways, examples of when the user and/or stand is completely defeated/unconscious. The stand and it’s ability quickly go away: D’Arby/Osiris, Koichi/Echoes, Kira/Killer Queen, Akira/RHCP, Bruno/Sticky Fingers, Black Sabbath, Pucci/MiH, and could honestly keep going with the list but I hope you get the point. Anything else like Harvest is an outlier and uniquely circumstantial, like how WoU can fit my list up above but he comes back anyways due to being concept and/or energy beyond what a stand is.
2. Intelligence wise he’d be way ahead of everyone except Jotaro and Pucci. And Jolyne near the end of part 6 should be nearing his level assuming he develops to way higher degree than he was in part 5 ofc.
3. No, and keep in mind that the stand stats for MiH are measuring the stand physically, not it’s ability. And the ability only attributes towards the physical stand and user. Time is being moved to infinity, that’s the speed presented. And with GER’s RTZ, nothing about the ability is physical, it just works at the rate events played out before it and takes things back, it’d be like trying to quantify the speed of Killer Queen BTD when everything is just set back. Neither ability physically moves because they’re not physical which is a problem when trying to quantify them physically, you can’t. Finally in terms of RTZ & Time Acceleration would interact, Time Acceleration would just overpower RTZ and make the ability duration much smaller. Oh and ASBR doesn’t matter and is irrelevant, Araki didn’t supervise nor direct it unlike EoH.
@@JobberGodot Okay so that pretty much answers my questions, because I think what I was getting wrong is assuming that stand stats had to refer to only the stand themselves or their abilities, but I see now that with like ta4 and others that it's not really consistent as to which ones refer to stand or ability even when taking descriptions under the graph into account. The only question I would maybe have is why Giorno was able to "bypass" the fate of meeting with the other sons, like I know he's in Florida, but he never really met them I get why in reality Araki probably just didn't want Giorno and to focus on the others, but like I wonder what the canon explanation would be. Also despite GER not being the strongest (Sadly no matter how much I like to glaze my boy 😔) I still find it mad impressive that a 15 YEAR OLD is getting put in the ring with like 30 year olds so I'll continue to glaze my GOAT🙏(within reason)
Giorno didn’t bypass fate, it was pre destined that Giorno wouldn’t be fated to be drawn to Pucci like Dio’s other sons were
Thanks for having me on to edit a segment for this video
Always chase a riddle down until the end, I agree with most of the things said in this video, except I think the way GER’s statement about it’s ability is said, it can be interpreted as automatic (to sub-infinite levels given greater context, lesser than approaching infinite speed according to a statement Araki said about Maid in Heaven) though your interpretation that GER needs to react is also likely.
Edit:You kind of coved this but not really. GER’s revert to zero activates when someone attacks Giorno or GER, why can’t that be the condition for its automatic ability?
There’s just zero evidence, and statements that point towards the RTZ ability being automatic or higher. And even though there’s no statement of GER itself being automatic, we have evidence it is through it talking and making it’s own decisions without the need of Giorno’s say so and knowledge, a self autonomous stand like Echoes Act 3 or Wonder of U. I personally go off of what’s actually provable rather than make an interpretation that doesn’t have much or any evidence. And the JoJoveller guidebook even asserts that GER is controlling RTZ, if the ability were automatic or passive, controlling RTZ wouldn’t be a thing GER would need to do
@@JobberGodot I get what you mean, I think that wording it as ‘if Return to Zero where automatic than GER wouldn’t have to do anything’ is a bit confusing given that it’s the ability, even if it’s automatic or not it’s what GER does. Thank you also for clarifying that there is a statement in the JoJoveler that implies that GER needs to activate Return to Zero manually, I’ll go check it out for myself and see what I think.
Also I don’t think my wording is that confusing, maybe I should’ve added “GER wouldn’t have to CONSCIOUSLY do anything” if you know what the word automatic means by definition. Anyways np! Also here’s a link to Imgur clink I made just for on what you’re looking for imgur.com/a/HKNZr2u
@@JobberGodot Thanks again! This video in general was very helpful, I was working on a Giorno match up (for my own entertainment in private) and using these points as you’ve lined out in your video has been (and continues to be) a huge help!
Luh bro I already proved GER is the strongest
Yooooo i’m happy to see you here jim! 🔥
SP>GER
MIH>SP
SP>KC
GER>D4C
GER>current JoJolands cast
At the end, I’m tired of powerscaling, but metas, Kaleb and your vids are very interesting and I also love WITS edits
W video
Na you are wrong
26:46 Horrible interpetation Jobber so funny
Cope
Who would win? Qtaro or ger with prep time?
Otaro can copy any ability so it's muda da
OH! Nice work, so technically speaking...KC doesn't manipulate time, it blinds people somewhat? Like it is changing people's minds instead of the whole world/time itself. at least from how you are saying it is. Interesting.
That's wrong tho but still
Always chase a riddle down to the end Stand proud Giorno, you’re strong
I feel like GER's attack power will be still B, because Diavolo resisted two barrages from GER. This means, again, Job even noted that in a short.
Also GER couldn't reset Maiden in Heaven's reset. So that proves your point.
That fact of GER couldn't reset the universe reset just proves it all, it can stop fate in a way, but can't stop full on time-ish fate, look, as even a GER fan, but the person has to attack GER first, but- if Jotaro or SP timestops, it ain't a deal as Giorno gets ORA barraged for 2-3 seconds, and you know how much punchs SP can pull
Robo fella went hard of his thumbnail
He cooked, we ate
Na you are wrong 😂
I think you're underrating GER. GER can take the entirety of something and revert it to a previous state. This includes any action the target takes and leaves GER unaffected by it (i.e., Giorno would be affected by time stop, but GER would not). This puts anything it affects in a constant loop of being put back to zero depending on what GER has done to the target. If GER was to kill a target, they would be constantly put in an infinite loop of deaths[28], each one varying from the next. The ability can be described as taking the "effect" out of "cause and effect". GER was able to bypass diavolo's time erase meaning he's also can bypass space and time. This means Giorno is being that transcends time and could punch you at every point in time casually. Time transcends durability would mean that only beings that can inflict damage across time would be able to harm you. Time transcendent speed is called immeserable since your basically trying to calculate distance over a negative amount of time and thus end up with a negative speed. This means Giorno/ GER has irrelevant speed (meanwhile pucci has immeasurable speed). Transcending space and time and/or moving in a structure transcendent to space and time gives a character Irrelevant speed via them bypassing the formula of speed (D/T, D=distance T=time). In other words, both of these factors are meaningless to characters/structures transcendent to space and time, therefore they can't be measured (this is similar to how moving in a structure where time doesn't flow gives a character inaccessible speed). So I think its safe to say, Giorno slams.
Nuh uh
Cope
" If you and ger fans was in a fight will you win ?"
" If they used coping and fake panels it will be hard "
" Would you lose ? "
" Nah i win "
_ jobber godot to lumos theromax
You forget head canon ger fan always use it
Always chase a riddle down to the end
I wanted u to talk about wonder of u abit :( but i guess it doesn't really fit the video
Uh ok, shoot
@@JobberGodot I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL bro especially the Makima Vs Toru video... U can tell im a huge jojolion fan
I also love chainsaw man
Nice man, thx for the support (And being a based JoJolion & CSM enjoyer)!