The Most Terrifying Stands: Gold Experience Requiem
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Yeah but can he beat Goku tho
Seemingly, yes actually. Better question is, what about *starts reciting the scp lore*
It's a stale mate. Goku can't hurt hum, but he can't hurt goku.
@@josephbooker259 what about the frog?
oh god you shouldn't have asked that question, this comment section is going to burn like Pompeii.
@@drained2644 Goku has already tanked his own attacks in base, GER wins cuz RTZ is broken
Dio, the incarnation of pure evil, someone who had planned to obtain a power so great he would rule over any imaginable being, got punched hard and died. Diavolo got one of the worst imaginable fates for giving drugs to kids.
Correction: He got all of them.
Drugs aren’t cool 😎
His name was literally devil in italian tho, Dio is called god in italian and giorno is his son, so basically Jesus condemned the devil to an eternal death (hell)
@@jellymatsuryuka6853 If we look past the religious stuff, we realize that well he isn't the best person, but he isn't the worst either, as at one point he had a genuine relationship that was good enough to have a daughter. Plus, if you compare the end goals one is a heavier burden. Diavolo just wanted to keep quiet and make money, Dio wanted to obtain an ability that would rule the universe, and he is also the incarnation of evil, as had been stated. Not saying diavolo didn't deserve to get beaten up but he definitely didn't deserve infinite death.
@@screamingchild.1352 I know, I'm just saying how Araki probably made a christianity reference
I always thought the "Life Laser" was just GER flicking a piece of debris so hard that it seemed to turn into a beam of light.
Same.
it was in the manga
Crazy that he was able to levitate and fire it without touching it.
me too
oh wait that’s literally what happened. the rock that GER shot at Diavolo turned into a scorpion.
My favorite fan theory about why Giorno didn't show up in Part 6 when Pucci summoned the sons of Dio: he was understandably confused about why he suddenly started randomly traveling to Florida, but then once he got there he noticed all the signs and advertisements for Disney World, decided "sure, why not?" and just went on vacation instead. Even the most powerful stand user and crime boss in the world needs to get some R&R once in a while.
Makes sense
In JoJo this would explain it and no one would bat an eye
Kokichi got a free pass to get out of the plot of Golden Wind because he wanted to tour Italy.
I can buy your Disney World theory.
I believe that GER gave Giorno some resistance to his og fate (being a step in the ladder to Dio's heaven)
I have my own version for this, the reason why Giorno didn’t go to Florida was because Mista found out about it and stopped Giorno from going because he would be the 4th son there. Idk how i thought of this don’t ask me lol
@@sinchanajoshi3016"mista found out giorno is the fourth son.
Mista (somehow) kills giorno for being the fourth son."
Boys, we solve part 6 giorno
The fact that ger is sentient and probably chose to put diavolo in an inf death instead of it being just some side effect of killing someone makes it more terrifying.
Good point
Oh God, that's even worse.
Jesus, it is so much more worse.
The fact that it can operate outside of giornos perception means even exploiting the stand weakness of killing the user would not stop it
It does make you wonder
Had he chose, could he do any other sort of loop or removal of causation instea dof death?
@@Prime_phi that’s if he’d let giorno die in the first place lol
To simplify, basically...
GER is so powerful, that even when the premonition of giorno dying(which was the future) it reverted that fate back to zero. Meaning that even when he's about to lose, that loss gets eradicated.
No the premonition from epitaph was still correct. It still played out how Epitaph saw it but since epitaph didn't completely see Giorno die, that created a small hole that GER could exploit. The problem with Diavolo's epitaph ability is that Diavolo can't choose what epitaph sees and what epitaph sees is fixed or fated to happen.
the premonition will happen only if he do it.
just like how you know you will die if you stand in the street, as long as you dont do it, it never happen
That why giorno can stop tooru
@@kom2876 but hes forced to do it by fate
@@christiankirby8092 But Epitah showed how Diavolo donuts Giorno but after that When he tried attacking Giorno it was reverted so Diavolo didn't hit Giorno in the first place while Epitah still showed the same future Giorno Killed Diavolo and the fate never happened.
GER is basically the epitome of “No”
You try to do something, he would just…No.
Ger sounds alot like my parents
But the difference is, in the timeline, it would revert to the point that it never happened
Goku solos
@@Songoku-dm4nd no ger would beat goku
@@Songoku-dm4nd Who?
GER: "None who stand before me shall ever do so, no matter what abilities they may wield!"
Jotaro using *「so it's the same type of stand as star platinum」* ability: "hmm... interesting"
I thought GER had to "kill" you first before putting you in the death loop. Like how giorno said diavolo would never reach the truth of his death its because GER killed diavolo by punching him and then used the return to zero ability to keep reverting his death to zero over and over again.
Giorno never killed diavolo, the drug addict that stabbed him did but GER just started the death loop right before Diavolo passed the life to death threshold when he was stabbed
@@ShonEricHernandez nope, Diavolo disappeared after Giorno killed him
@@imjustherefortehlulz so your saying after the muda rush, he dies?
@@ShonEricHernandez the punches should've killed him, but his death was reverted to zero, which repeated infinitely
@@ShonEricHernandez yeah this guy is right, he was still very much alive after the muda rush
Diavolo had the power to control his own fate, the only power that could stop him was the power to control his fate against his will
or just be beyond fate itself
Golden experience on its own is extremely terrifying because of the life punch and the fact any animal can kill you but the extra consequence of possibly dying if you try to fight the animal back. Almost no weaknesses
But TOAA is way more terrifying than GER
I think the reason GER is more powerful than stands like Tusk act 4 and D4C is the fact that the basis for their powers is “Infinity” while GER’s is “Zero”. Any number multiplied by infinity except for Zero will become infinity, however infinity multiplied by Zero is Zero. It doesn’t matter what the other stands could do, they could destroy the universe and GER could still revert it to Zero, undoing the action.
Killer Queen didn’t get hit by the arrow. Yoshikage did.
Gold Experience did get hit by the arrow.
that’s the difference between Requiem and Killer Queen’s new abilities.
There is virtually no difference between the arrows you see in Part 4 and Part 5.
Realistically, you should be able to awaken a Requiem stand with the same arrow that unlocked Killer Queen’s new abilities.
In part 5 it was explained that the requiem arrow has an additional dose of the virus that causes Stands to exist. There's also a visual addition to the arrow that looks like a beetle.
I'd assume that a normal arrow would kind of work, but it'd be a lot weaker. Stands are the manifestation of one's ambitions and a Requiem Stand is taking it even further, so I can only assume that it takes a lot of effort to make a Requiem/Evolved Stand.
Longer explanation and some extra thoughts:
Killer Queen: Bites the Dust was the result of Kira being in the most emotional turmoil of his entire life (from what we can see) which caused the arrow to gravitate towards him and pierce him again, granting him a new ability, but it had some severe limitations like his own memory not persisting, needing a host, the Stand not being usable while it's planted on someone else. KQ:BTD also gains a red glow in its eyes and it seemed to move faster and hit harder when fighting Josuke and Crazy Diamond, but was quickly overwhelmed after their first encounter.
Golden Experience Requiem took effect even though King Crimson punched GE's face off and brought Giorno back from the brink of death, gave GE a whole new appearance, increased its stats to the point it could effortlessly beat King Crimson and might even be the physically strongest in the series, and of course gave it the most overpowered canon ability of just ignoring anything that could happen to Giorno.
One interesting similarity is that Killer Queen: Bites the Dust and GER both gained some degree of sentience. GER was straight up speaking and moving without Giorno's input while time was skipping and said Giorno didn't know what was going on. KQ:BTD seemed to display some newfound fighting skills despite Kira never really having much proficiency with Stand-on-Stand combat, and when planted on Hayato, automatically prevented Kira from hurting Hayato and even prevented Hayato from trying to kill himself with a knife.
nah
@@epsilon752 The only thing that supports this is that the Beetle Arrow was made with the extra material left after making the other ones, hence they made a beetle with all that extra material
It doesn't necessarily mean it holds more power, it just has more material
@@epsilon752 no matter how much virus you get, your stand is the same
@@Jack_Woods Pretty sure they straight up said in Part 5 that it has a higher dose or something. I'll have to watch it again to be sure though
Edit: I don't think they outright said anything about material or viral doses, so it's just implied. Bigger arrow = more material = more virus.
8:55 That wasn't a laser beam. That was his scale / exoskeleton that was shedded and floating alongside him. He flicked it so hard it became just a line towards its trajectory. This drawing is pretty common in mangas.
I thought it was a rock
in my opinion GER abilities are the evolution of GE abilities , the "life beam" is just stone given life propulsed at high speed (which transform into scorpions) , the fact that diavolo hadn't moved from the spot when trying to attack giorno would be the life shot evolution, also I feel like the stand having no stats wouldn't mean that ger has stronger strength than star platinum nor speed of MIH , to me it doesn't require it , from what we saw the stand act on its own and it's range is massive , it kinda act as Wonder of U in the fact that trying to attack giorno would trigger the ability instantly , I think that GER doesn't need stand stats because its power render those useless I still think it's faster and average than most average stand (the one not specialised like MIH is in speed )
If you ask me GER has imeasurable stats for a reason araki wouldn’t just give GER imeasurable stats to GER if it didn’t mean something besides GER speed blitzed king crimson so he got a considerable speed boost from the arrow
What’s more unfortunate, Kars being in space for all eternity, so long that he just stopped thinking. Or, Diavolo dying infinitely not knowing how he truly died
Diavolo doesn't get the privilege to go brain dead
Def. Diavolo. He infinitely suffers to no end, kars stopped thinking, and he'll eventually hit a star/planet. Kars doesn't necessarily feel any pain, just the feeling of not being able to breathe, which he'll get used to eventually. Meanwhile, Diavolo is in a loop, and feels either unbearable pain or just dies peacefully, and considering its a loop, he'll likely stay this miserable forever.
@@lockheedac-1303 (spoilers for part 6)
I feel like the universe reset probably freed the original diavolo from the time loop… however there could be a alternate diavolo that I don’t know about (since I haven’t seen or read about any Jojo things past part 6)
But I guess that frees Kars as well
@@TrapCardDis Not certainly. It's an alternate universe, yes, but only those who died were replaced. I heard somewhere that diavolos loop was in an alternate universe altogether, but im not sure. As for Kars, Fate already decided his "death", meaning it may not have exactly happened as in P2, but he ended in space either way
Imagine you low key had the stand god by the end of your arc and the next appearance you make is expressly to get worfed by your own father
Based on how it was depicted in the anime I think that "Life Laser" was him flicking a rock charged with so much life energy and at such high speed it broke King Crimsons hand, destroyed the wall behind him, and then turned the broken pieces of the wall into Scorpions with the life energy that was in the rock.
Your explanations are always awesome to watch.
Thank you
Imagine Diavolo in one of the death loops is sitting in a chair thinking it’s finally over and then he falls back and cracks his head like our teachers warned us about at school.
I love how we're arguing on the punch strength of ger when the punch doesnt even need to fly off for the fight to be over/never had been will start fuck
Something I found interesting is that Kira’s stand doesn’t get stabbed. He does. However with the requiems, the stands themselves get stabbed.
do you think he hah his stand like in him like hidden from view yk how jotaro did with star platinum with his stand being in him
GER is like those dreams where your punches are weak for some reason
Ong
A minor correction: GE:R does actually seem to lose damage reflection. If he didn’t lose damage reflection, Diavollo would have been crushed after stepping on the scorpions GE:R created.
Edit: Okay, okay, I get it. GE:R only loses damage reflection in the anime.
It was an anime only mistake
He actually avoided stepping on them in the manga
Anime only mistake :(
He doesnt lose the damage reflection what are you talking about? It was an animation mistake and it only happened once where diavolo killed the scorpion but it never happened in the manga so therefore you can say that diavolo never stepped on the scorpion. Even if he did he would have died because there is nothing the proves that Ger loses some of its abilities
In short ger never losed any abilities even in the anime
The editing goes hard fr 🔥
GER and Wet & Soft are just two of the stands ill never want to face.
GER: "I am going to beat you to death, but you don't have permission to die."
Is god damn terrifying.
One of my theories which I STILL hold to this day is that for ger to get their ability onto the enemy, the stand itself HAS to at least touch the victim just like tusk act 4. I theorise this because well it makes sense, why else would he shoot Diavolo with a rock, I mean he's already going to time erase and try kill him. It's kind of like a counter, he does almost nothing just because he touched him, waiting for king crimson to almost be done, and BAM! Without any other visible sign other than things going back in time, rtz happens.
This is why he couldn't stop the universe reset.
Another theory is that Giorno still has requiem, although in the official games it's just like an awakening boost then it goes back to normal, but I guess that's just because it'll be too op. But my theory on Giorno still having requiem after he obtained the arrow back, is because Chariot Requiem still walked on too legs even without the arrow. Just makes total sense, requiems are not just a one time thing but they allow you to give another stand user a shot.
Araki himself stated that any attackers will and action will be reseted. BtZ has an universal range since it resets every single action in the universe to zero, then every action continue as normally except for the attack that will never reach the point of becoming true. Actions like a leaf falling from a tree or Mista shooting Diavolo go back to zero but once the reset is complete they continue as normally. Giorno doesn't need to hit someone to get reset his action.
Now, why did GER shoot Diavolo? Easy answer, it was Giorno. Giorno doesn't know that GER is sentient so he would be freaked out if GER started attacking by his own. And since Giorno doesn't know about the abillity of BtZ, he just didn't do it to activate it.
The reason why the Universal Reset didn't go back to zero is because it doesn't affect human beings and it doesn't has Giorno as a target at all.
@@crackaddict1692 Im sorry, but Im confused, if you mean that an action takes place but GER uses RTZ to Return it to Zero and then it continues again, youre wrong(I dont mean to sound rude), The action is Returned to Zero then the action will never take place again. RTZ stops action from happening ever. Now GER didnt RTZ uni reset bc plot convenience (i think)
I never understood why people struggle with GER or King Crimson, they can be explained in a sentence each.
GER removes Effect from Cause and Effect.
King Crimson removes Cause from Cause and Effect.
Wow, so hard.
My headcannon is that the death loop is caused by him tripping from the huge energy injection from the ger punches he got
Not exactly tripping, but the energy being so high, such that Diavolo’s Consciousness has to pass through all possible ways that he could die, or basically the energy making his consciousness pass through all timelines that the universe would pass through while naturally resetting.
so basically he's the epitome of "because i said so"
bassicly a walking uno reverse card
diavolo: giorno I just sold drugs and killed some people, please let me out.
giorno: N O.
giorNO
Gotta love araki’s references. The son of dio (god in italian) made diavolo (devil in italian) suffer death for all eternity.
Wait isn’t the laser GER gets a callback to space ripper stingy eyes? I feel like maybe he inherited that since with BTD you could say being able to trap someone within a frame is similar to time looping. Also how I’d put the death loop is that GER keeps reseting Diavolo’s sort if “death position” to 0, constantly and maybe he’s actually on earth while this is happening since GER can’t create a new dimension with its ability.
Soft and wet go beyond can beat GER
GER just resets josuke before he can even activate his stand.
@@lemur1129 go beyond doesnt need to be activated, it just appear
I always figured Diavolo was infused with so much life energy, he did die, but it happened so fast that, to him, the moment felt infinitely long and his brain was making nonsense as it shut down
I think Gold Experience’s Life Sensor likely reads Ripple Energy.
I was waiting for this video because you could say golden exp req is the strongest stand
if we are adding physics to this then if GER has immeasurable speed that means immeasurable potential energy and momentum which means obviously immeasurable kinetic energy which means he actually has immeasurable strength too, just to add insult to injury GER is quite literally god as a stand
Out of curiosity I was wondering how GER’s return to zero would fair against soft and wet go beyond
Can't affect something that doesn't exist
@@imjustherefortehlulz that’s what I was thinking
@@imjustherefortehlulz King Crimson erase 10 seconds of time what basicaly dont exist but RTZ could still affect something what doesnt exist anymore so he could prob RTY Go beyond bubble
@@mr.glitch5547 he didn't use RTZ during erased time, it activated right after time erase ended
@@imjustherefortehlulz nope, GER is already reverting the erased time inside it. If you look at the background, before hitting GER the background is still the same inside the erased time, we can also see in the anime that it starts revertimg together with the bees, crows, bullets by mista and the leaves falling.
Someone has already mentioned it but Kira got hit by the arrow and not Killer Queen. Increasing its powers.
Golden Experience got hit so its more like Golden Experience got its own stand with its own powers unique to it.
Which checks with Chariot Requiem gaining new powers completely unrelated to its original powers.
Sort of like a Stand Squared.
This video should be called
" the most terrifying stand "
Tusk: “what the hell? I can never miss!”
GER: “That’s not true, you miss 100% of the shots you don’t take.”
I just love this comment
Tusk beat him dont overrate Giorno
man,... i can't never get tired of hearing how GER is just OP! love it!
GER can still be defeated
And there are characters that are more op than GER
GER's stand stats are listed as "None" because it reverted the Stand Stats Meter to Zero
I think that the reason Star Platinum is referred to as the "ultimate stand" is because out of all stands, unaltered and unevolved, it is. If the time-stop power was latent within SP the whole time, then there is absolutely no one who could stomp him except DIO who had this power as well on top of his weakened but regrowing vampiric strength. I've read that the time stop stuff did a number on Jotaro's heart when used, and whether true or not, once again only DIO could out-do Jotaro because of his healing factor.
Stands like GER, C-Moon, and Made in Heaven while extremely powerful are all evolved or altered. In a straight 1v1 against White Snake or Gold Experience, Star Platinum stomps. So while it is silly for Araki to state in part 6 that SP is the ultimate stand directly after part 5, it makes sense if you see it that way.
Damn I never thought GER namesake was a reference to the King Crimson album “Requiem” but that parallel between Motzart and his student and Girono with Polnareff is really clever
It's fitting that a guy named after the devil was basically put into neverending torture for all eternity.
So power full do golden so idk
Constantly almost dying, yet made immortal. Sounds about right for an evil Dio.
Golden Experience: No u 💀
Golden Experience Requem: No.
Fun fact giorno didn’t even know what happend during the return to zero
The thing about GER’s live giver is that he can transfer it through other objects and apparently use it at a range. What GER shot was a pebble, which then hit the bricks and turned it into scorpions.
Set is terrifying imagine a man comes up to you reverse ages you so much that you’re just nonexistent no pocket dimensions no anything like d4c just nonexistent
jotaro: "So it's the same type of Stand as Star Platinum"
"Star Platinum The World Requiem"
Since Diavolo dies and infinite amount of time. There's a death we're he fights the stardust crusaders and it's canon
I gathered that with the death loop, it was Diavolo experiencing every possible death that he might have experienced at the end of each of his possible timelines - a near infinite amount of deaths.
To play on the whole Fate thing jojo is fond of, instead of coming to one inevitable fate, he’s meeting with every possible fate at the same time, experiencing them as if they were one after the other.
Truly - it’s the closest Jojo has ever come to depicting hell itself.
Gold Experience Requiem: when your Stand ability is literally *_a cosmic Uno Reverse Card_*
Man I was kinda hoping he would talk about silver chariot requiem
Everyone hyping GER, and I’m just absolutely scared of that arrow that made GER and CR. Let’s remember that GE and SC were strong stands, but not comparable to the likes of SP, TW, or even KC. Imagine those stands with the arrow? Holy molly even novel Kars would agree something would be cooking.
GER is basically just “Fuck it, he can do this now. Why? Fuck you.”
Pucci : this is heaven
Ger:or is it?
*v sauce's theme drops*
2:41 some people forgot that that information means it was the strongest stand for it’s time, Ger was made 10 years after The events of stardust crusaders.
Ad popped up at perfect time "He has everything he needs, self healing, life giving-" "Kinder joy"
Meta:This vid is about ger: also meta:talks about mih for 5 mins
gold experience is so fast not even giorni knew what he was doing
laser beam is when he flicks a rock i think
the mozart thing also sounds like a reference to diavolos fate, unable to reach what he sought.
sp: punches giorno
ger: what if you didnt?
Idk I still think.Diavolo just erases time
Bro ger is the embodiment of “nuh uh”
I always see GER as a stand that can literally stalemate anyone at his bare minimum because of his return to zero ability
Shit people like anti spiral can kill him but with his Rtz ability he will never reach the end
GER:I'm complicated but my abilities are unknown and I'm a mysterious stand that every stand I'm all above them.
Star platinum:I can punch hard and fast and I can brake your bones on 7 seconds and I can stop time for seconds, P R E P A R E T O D I E.
My interpretation of stands, growth, and limitations… GER just makes reality whatever he wants. It’s just that OP
I feel like GER being stated to be above every other stand isn’t “his stats are better” it’s “his stats don’t matter, because his hax will always won’t”
well yeah.. that explains the debate over Tusk ACT 4 vs. GER
Tusk: I will hit you with infinity
GER: I gain access to your very soul, action and will. Thus I would say "no"
immeasurable speed is for characters that is on the level of concepts of time
The goofiest death you can imagine is ✨canon✨
Its not a laser beam. He takes a rock anf turns it into a scorpion simultaneously projecting it into diavolo
Since time isn't limited by space or matter it is logical that time affecting abilities affects everything
The life laser beam was just a small rock punched by GER
I personally don't see GER as a stand that has insane AP, I more so think it as more so the ultimate 'shield' since it can basically block and perfectly counter any attack thrown at it, so when it says it has no stats it is essentially Araki trying to say that its stats don't matter because of how broken its ability is. This shield analogy, to me, fits better thematically as a parallel to Diavolo and KC which is an insanely offensive stand, and it also fits in more with Giorno as a character, given how he is more of a defender rather than frontline fighter (even though he is capable of being both).
The thing about ger's AP is that not only is it stupidly high ger also has so much control over it as well. As shown from the pebble ger flicked that turned a building to rubble then turning that rubble into scorpions.
2:38 i always asued the by "the ultimate stand" it meant that it was the best general unevolved stand with some of the best stats and an op ability that would be useful for the most situations or just in general. Although stands such as Golden Experience Requiem, Tusk Act 4, Made in Heaven and D4C:LT all over power him they are all evolved stands unlike Star Platinum which is just a "normal" stand and it is possible he could beat most of these stands pre evolution in most situations.
The reason for the death loop to happen is because GER has the ability to erase CONSEQUENCES while keeping the CAUSE of an action.
When Giorno beats Diavolo, he effectively "kills" Diavolo, but GER removes the consequence (death) of being killed. Therefore, the cause "being killed" loops on itself, and Diavolo is never able to reach the consequence of being dead.
The reason why this is the actual ability of GER is because a requiem stand 's ability always depends on the desperation of the user when they get pierced by the arrow.
Kira being desperate about being found out after accidentally killing Hayato ---> Rewinding time through bites the dust
Polnareff being desperate about Diavolo getting the arrow ---> Chariot requiem being nearly uncatchable
Giorno being desperate about beating an enemy who can erase the causes of events while keeping the consequences ---> GER cancels out King crimson by having the exact inverse ability
Before GER, Golden Experience was still a perfect utility stand it’s like in every battle he had a new power or able to use his power in a vastly different way than we seen it, I promise if you don’t know before going in without hearing Giorno say it you would never know GE’s power
I always have the feeling under my skin that I'm going to randomly get the back of my head punched in randomly and wake up to my examination in the morge
“So Star platinum is the same stand as GER ,MIH ,Bohemian Rhapsody , Soft and wet GB, KC and Tusk act 4”
At this point the series should be called overpowered stands.
When polnareff took the arrow from chariot requiem it had only been cut by the arrow not pierced. After pierced Chariot requiem gets separated from the arrow on multiple occasions without losing its power.
It's more so that Silver Chariot didn't fully evolve, but yes
@@hainguyn948 yeah, that's what I'm saying. Once a requiem is fully created I don't think it reverts
The funny thing is that if Koichi and Giorno had been defeated by Black Sabbath they two would have acquired a Requiem.
Imagine hating a drugs gang while you literally have the stand that give people the same hallucinations as the drugs does.
crazy diamond should be in this series souly for the reason that if you get defeated by its near star platinum physical feats you can be turned into a living object for all eternity
Luckily, Giorno will not use his power for evil, as he still has Johnathan Joestar's blood within him.
It's ironic since Dio always craved to show the world their fate at all times and make "Heaven" and Giorno/GER just dgaf and just changes fate just cuz
in my most humble opinion, when we scale stands by how terrifying they are, not by power, usefulness or some shit like that, just by how terrifying, the crown can go to none other than cheap trick.
with most of these stands, their most terrifying abilities are not ones they are likely to use against just anyone.
you could probably talk giorno into not putting you into an infinite death loop if you're nice enough to him, you could probably get not killed by DIO or diavolo if you submit to their will.
cheap trick however only has one ability and it triggers automatically, there is no reasoning with it, there is no fighting it, unless you know a spot like remis alley, and have the means to get there without anyone seeing your back, there is literally nothing you can do but to stay in complete isolation with that annoying little shit on your back constantly bothering you, it won't let you rest, it sure as hell won't let you sleep, you're stuck with it until you're dead and then it'll find another victim.
the only other way it could go is if you somehow manage to evolve cheap trick into cheap trick act 2, which could be on a whole other level of awful or awesome, depending on what you get.
Its all fun and games until jotoro says, "so its the same type of stand as star platinum"
That intro hit my ears just right with that Requiem holy shit
All that has to happen for sp to be stronger than ger is that jotaro says: its the same type of stand as star platinum