Best tutorial for install. I’ve done four sets on F150s, I was looking for info for the Tundra install. Calling out tools ahead of time, sequence, etc...Nice job
Subscribed....after all, I did just buy a 2022 tundra! And I want to overland my tundra. Great video guys. I can't wait to get a small lift for my air bag tundra.
Oh yea! I installed the Bilstein 5100 setup in my 2019 Colorado Crew Cab 4x4, V6. I used the next to the top hight adjustment available, that gave 1.9”, I did that to keep the rear stock, to tow my 26’, 4,400-6,400 lb travel trailer, all nice an level, while giving the truck a 1.9” front lift, that still leave a rear hight bias empty, but still level with up to 1,100 lb before any sag. The best part is the same increase in suspension travel, front and rear, using stock springs! Great supple ride, with improved dampening. Now I’ll have room for 33” tires, when the original have at least 35k on them! Then I’ll get GoodYear Trail Runners in 265/75-16, that will give me all I need forthwith level of off road I do.
Just found this channel. Subbed, looking forward to videos of other projects for Tundra off-roading and over-landing. Right now my Tundra is undergoing a project with my local shop. It's about a 3 year long project.
I just bought a tundra… and man I am liking the more aggressive tires on the stock rims. I have those exact rims on my truck and they look amazing with the more aggressive tires
What size tires? I am looking to do this level/ lift on my 2015 Tundra and have the same rims (18x8). Did you have to trim anything to avoid rubbing? Looks Awesome!
Please do! I switched to 5100s on my 2006 in driveway but like seeing/hearing the tricks to more accurately install as I used old original OEM Springs and Top Plate, so if ever do again shall replace ALL to brand new! It rides well enuf but love how your team operates. Except no audio. ;-)
Great video. Couple questions..1) Should I rely on the 5100's to act as a lift (leveling) or should I get a 2.5-3" level kit and then add the 5100's. 2018 Tundra 4X4 crewmax. 2) Do I need a 1" block in the rear? Thanks
I'll attempt to answer, hope it makes sense: 1) Depending on the snap ring setting, these shocks by themselves will lift your truck. Putting aftermarket shocks/coilovers on your truck and then adding a spacer kit is redundant and will negate the improved suspension performance. 2) Personally I always order rear blocks and then measure after the kit is installed because (I have no idea why) in my experience the advertised ride height isn't always what you get. And it just depends on what you want the stance to be after. I personally haul a lot so I want about an inch rake so I'm not butt dragging leaving home depot. Couple of side notes: - I personally don't like lifting a 4wd over 2.5" because the CV angles get a bit sporty (although I'm not an expert on every vehicle) - I would suggest spending the extra money on new upper control arms if you plan on lifting the front end to address the new ball joint angles
Great video. Thanks for taking the time to do it. On the Tacoma, to remove spring tension on the shock, you put a jack under the lower shock eye and jack up the A arm at that point. Then remove the top shock shaft nut, lower the jack and pull the shock and spring out with no other work needed to separate the spring from the shock. Would this not work on a Tundra? I know the Tundra has that top hat that's part of the assembly. The only problem I see is being able to get the necessary tools on that top shock shaft nut to loosen it.
I remember when I first started learning under a master tech 20 plus years ago ,he said Change these front shocks out ,of BMW 635ci ,never worked on suspension, he leaves says have it done ,I like a dummy, get it out ,put it on the shop floor sideways, started unbolting it ,an bam ,the fing spring goes flying across the shop almost hits a custom BMW he was building, I dam near shat myself, an lost a hand . Lesson learned 😂, use spring compressor.
Awesome video! If I do the 2.5 lift in the front and I have the same 5100s in the rear do I need to do the block in the rear? I’ve got 32s on the front and I’m just trying to eliminate rubbing. It’s on the same year 2017 tundra.
I'm considering the prospect of installing 5100s in my 2006 Toyota Tundra 2WD V8 Access Cab. Presently, the front of the truck is 2 1/2" lower than the rear. The previous owner had installed a set of helper leaf springs (SuperSprings) in the rear, which I plan on removing. I want to get the truck leveled, but I also want the most comfortable ride I can achieve. I'm not planning on any off-roading. Will the ride quality be affected by the different lift options, i.e. will highest lift also give you the stiffest ride? - If it is, is there any way of leveling the truck and still getting a comfortable ride? Thanks! 🙂
From my personal experience there is not much change in quality of ride from highest to lowest. We alway recommend adding leaf pack in the back or a leaf shackle to raise the back. Blocks are a cheap solution but ideally you want something that is not a spacer. You might consider leaving that leaf pack if it’s not to high
Tundra Torques Tie rod end: 51 ft Ibs Top coilover bolts: 33 ft Ibs Bottom coilover bolt: 144 ft Ibs Wheel: 97 ft Ibs Upper control arm ball joint: 81 ft Ibs Steering knuckle: 81 ft Ibs Sway bar bolt: 89 ft Ibs Top stabilizer bolt: 111 ft Ibs Lower control arm ball joint attachment(2 bolts): 221 ft Ibs Lower ball joint: 123 ft Ibs Aluminum wheel: 97 ft Ibs Steel wheel: 154 ft Ibs Control sensor wire A: 10 ft Ibs on UCA Control sensor wire B: 21 ft Ibs on spindle Sway bar brackets bracket (4 bolts): 51 ft Ibs UCA through bolt for TC UCA: 173 ft Ibs Uniball: 100 ft Ibs
Awesome video!!! I have a question though, I want to install these shocks and set it at the highest level to remove the rake in front but do I have to install the spacer in the rear of the tundra?
I tried measuring the height of the truck as is and I have about 2 1/4” of difference. My question is if I set it at the highest setting and adding the block or spacer in the back, will that still leave a small rake or will it stay level?
@@leosantander4911 so depending west and shocks on the truck it could be that you have a lot more west on the front but when you switch out all the front and rear shocks you most definitely will need the spacer. The spacer is cheap so I would install all the shocks and see how it looks and if the back sits low afterwards then add the spacer. Keep in mind once you lower the truck from the lift or jack you will need an alignment and drive it around for the suspension to settle
Thank you for the informative video. I am looking to do a very similar setup on my 2021 limited with the trd off rd pkg, keeping my factory TRD wheels. What size tires did you use? Did you need to use wheel spacers for this setup?
Very well detailed video ! 👍. I would have went with the middle setting on the front . Not a big fan of the squatted look . Need a little rake for towing or hauling weight in the bed.
@@datboilarry_8219 put it on the jack stands. Hold the diff with the jack. Loosen the ubolts and slowly drop the diff with the jack. I’d keep the unbolt nut on until you have safely lowered the diff that way if anything happens to your jack the diff won’t slam to the ground. Do one side at a time
Hey, awesome video. I just purchased 5100’s front and back for my 2020 tundra crewmax. A couple questions. 1. If I go with the middle settings do I need the block in the rear and will that setup level it out? 2. If I go with the top setting and the shim on the driver side is the shackle better than the block? 3. Is the lean on the tundra just on the front driver side or do you need something at the back as well? 4. How heavy of a load can I go in the back with just the block or shackle. I rarely put anything in the back but ever so often I’ll get some lumber from Home Depot or toss the snow blower in the back?
Thanks for the love and support! 1.Middle setting shouldn’t need a block in the rear of the truck is newer and rear leafs aren’t beat up 2. Yes sh kale will always be better than the block for ride quality 3. The lean is just the front you won’t have to do anything on the rear. 4. With the shackle your are simply raising the rear of the truck. You can still load heavy thing in the truck but depending how heavy you go it will slightly sag. Best recommendation is to go top setting and rear shackle.
Thanks for sharing this!! Just wish I was closer so he could do my truck!! What are your thoughts on altering leaf springs if I plan on periodically towing 7k-9k pound RV? Oh, and what were the “after” measurements? Didn’t see that in the video.
So on my personal build I have icon add a leaf. Gives about an inch of lift and heavy duty for those that have extra weight in the back. I highly recommend it because it’s only a couple of hundred dollars compared to a full new set of leafs which are over $1k right now. As far as the measurements we didn’t add them to the video because the alignment was so off that it wouldn’t be an accurate readying until it got aligned.
So this may be a dumb question and could probably be answered if I just measure it. But I’m fixing to have these installed myself. And the rear just seems waaaay higher than the front, so much so that I’m worried even the tallest setting won’t level it. Will the rear kind of drop or angle different when you raise the front or will it sit pretty much the same? I’d rather use the middle setting for more comfort but I also want it to look good and level.
From factory tundras come with a rake, meaning rear is higher so when you add anything to the bed or tow it doesn’t have a nasty sag. The middle setting should level it out. Everyone wants the most lift so for that you would put it on the highest setting and get a one inch block for the rear. So really depends what you are doing. If you are adding bigger tires or wider wheels you will need/want the most clearance. Hope that answers your question.
Great video! I already have a 3” spacer lift in the front and 1” block in the rear running 35’s with no rub, love the look. I want to pull out the spacer for better ride and safety, and just run the 5100’s on the highest setting to keep my lift, but don’t want to lose any ride height. How much height will I actually lose (if any) using the shock vs. the spacer? Thanks!
Hey Chris. So depending on your set up and if you have bumpers or winches or anything. If it’s stock most likely you will lose about .25” to compensate for this you could get a heavier duty spring.
@@overlandtundras Also someone suggested a tiny .50' shim to keep me at a full 3" lift. I found a set from Wulf Suspensions for $33. I'll report back! Thanks again!!
@@chrismak4859 we like to use the coach builder ones. I post the link. However these are usually used on Coilovers and have never tried them on 5100’s shop-coachbuilder.myshopify.com/products/coachbuilder-strut-coilover-shim-provides-1-00-of-lift
Prices have changed. Ball park for parts you are looking at $500-$600 and then install another $500. So out the door about $1100-1300 depending on the shop and parts. 2 years ago you could do this for less than $1k making it the best bag for your buck
@@Trd2020 yes shackle will def be your best option and best ride. David at coachbuilder is a solid dude and has some amazing products. If you speak with him tell him we sent you!
I see overland sticker, do you overland with tow/haul on? Just asking cause with it on you do get more stopping and steering power. Also engine brake too.. Can you make a video comparing on and off while overlanding
Depending on terrain and what we are doing dictates how we drive if it’s in sport mode, 4hi, or 4low. I’ve never tried tow on. Will have to give that one a try.
Hi, This seems to be a different way of adding a leveling kit except you're just using the spring body instead of a spacer block. A lot of those leveling kits have a diff drop with them to reduce the CV angle back to normal. Do you think that would be a good investment to go along with this install? Thanks Kurt M.
Diff drops are recommended for 3”+ this one is slightly under and after install and alignment no issues. After every install there is a 100-500 mile retorque where everything is looked at and no wear or issues with geometry. Every truck is different of course.
Awesome video and great explanation on how to install. Do I need to install the driver side coilover shims on my 2014 toyota sr5 tundra? I have the 5100 installed on the rear and planning to install the 5100 for the fronts soon. Is it recommended to install the shim in the driver's side? Thanks again for the great video
So from factory it comes with the lean so adding the shin just corrects the lean. Without it is fine, for my purpose on my puedo Al build I need as much lift as possible so I used the coachbuilder shim on each side to give me 1” of lift. For your purpose you can go with or without.
@@overlandtundras last question, what settings do you recommend, my tires are 295/60/r20. Should I use the top setting to get the most lift or middle setting will suffice if I added that shim on driver side?
@@ige924 I would recommend always going with the top setting. Tundras have small wheel wells and most of the time need to cut the body mount chop. So go as high as you can the ride will still be nice. Don’t forget the rear block or some shackles to level the truck
@@overlandtundras Actually, unless I missed it. The mechanic mentions needing a 14mm, 17mm, and 19mm at the beginning, but didnʻt mention other sizes. Also needed a 22mm for the 2 LCA knuckle bolts, and 24mm to loosen the LCA. Would be great to see an overlay caption of the socket/wrench sizes at each step. But other than that, it was totally helpful.
Yes this truck stayed with the one inch block. We recommend getting a leaf shackle to avoid a block and for a better ride however this member was ok with the 1” block.
Do you suggest running them at the top setting or middle? I’ve read a ton to only use the middle 1.7 inch setting as top can be “bad” for the shock and ride quality . Thanks
The ride gets stiffer as you go higher, being that the setting adjustments compress the spring , best to install lift springs to get the added height and put on 1st setting, will also be able to use entire travel of shock, by compressing the shock you are somewhat limiting the travel
@@overlandtundras awesome video. Im about to order the Bilstein 5100 for my 2021 tundra trd sport. I noticed that they also sell. Front strut in the 5100 instead of the front shock. Just curious on what you think is a better option.
If you are going on the highest setting in the front then yes you will need a block, leave shackle, or upgrade leafs so it’s leveled. Also keep in mind if you are always carrying heavy items in your bed or have an offroad bedrack with rooftop tent and spare tires you might need a bigger block to compensate the weight.
@@overlandtundras I see you used a block but is there any benefit to either block or shackle? Or better yet is any other parts necessary for either one? Thanks for the video a'lot of good info here!
@@keatonjohnson263 only a small piece of the inner fender that was trimmed. We always recommend a body mount chop and with trimming the plastic inner fender
I have a 4in Procomp on my 16 with stock coil overs and Procomp rear shocks.Can these Bilsteins be installed on mine in the front keeping stock springs?
So what I’m thinking is that on top of your strut you must have some kind of spacer? I always advise to get away from spacers and get the right strut/coilover so you can avoid that spacer. If you use the 5100 bilsteins you will still need that spacer.
@@overlandtundras only way to get higher lift then 3” is with top plate spacer? Top plate spacer is ok for mild off-roading, but you will need to get larger bump stops, so you don’t bottom out on the shock, in lieu of the bump stop
@@overlandtundras I am located in Jacksonville FL and would love to this done on my 2017 Tundra. I cannot seem to find your shop details on google. Can you provide your shop contact information please?
Hi guys , can you give an advice . I got 2021 CrewMax 4x4 Tundra Limited and want only to level it up . Can I go with the 5100s front and rear and set up front on middle setting and get it leveled ?
Really enjoyed your video, looking to do the 5100’s on my tundra, did the 1/2” spacer for the drivers side lean come with the kit and does the 1” spacer on the rear differential also come with the kit or do you need to get them separately?
Unfortunately right now with covid it’s tricky to get parts together. At once you could buy most of everything from Amazon. You will have to get a standard Toyota Tundra spacer block for the back, and the shim for the shock you will find the link below. shop-coachbuilder.myshopify.com/products/coachbuilder-strut-coilover-shim-provides-50-of-lift
@@kevinmansur3690 yes they all do have the lean. Below is the link shop-coachbuilder.myshopify.com/products/coachbuilder-strut-coilover-shim-provides-50-of-lift
Check out the website link below. Donate Mainly specializes in mobile mechanics however has an amazing shop for working on these amazing build. mcnishgenuineautomotive.com
So it’s a double edge sword. You will not lose the warranty. However if anything fails due to the lift they will bit cover it. As you know warranty’s are like insurance companies and they will find anyway to get out of paying out. One thing to keep in mind is that a suspension lift is very minimal. Essential only shocks, blocks, or shackles so I wouldn’t be to concerned unless you are doing a big lift.
Thank you! It does nit change the geometry. Once you go over 3” and over is when you will start needing differential drop to keep the geometry the same. The highest setting on 5100 is no more that 2.5”. Just make sure you get an alignment ASAP and you will be good
@@overlandtundras Thanks for the quick reply. Alignment yes. One more question if you don't mind. I see some kits sold don't come with a dust boot. How important is this to have? Eric
@@blackswanodysseys I would say it’s very important you want to keep it protected as much as possible especially with mud and all the elements. You can find them relatively cheap on Amazon/eBay
Hey OLTundra, been awhile, just wondering how's the ride with the bilstein 5100? I'm just going to mod the way this truck has, I don't do crazy rock crawlings. Just enough to get me where I need to be in the mountains to camp and hunt, tow my boat and fish. I heard spacers will break the strut shafts and it just kinda made me thinking should I just go with the Bilstein? Also wil be ordering 18x9 18mm offset with a set of 285/75/18 Falken WidePeak. Help me out asap, what do you think?
Would you be able to tell us what the final tire size is that he went with. Would a 275/65/R20 fit without rubbing when the shocks are set at the 2.5” setting?
These are bfg km3 33x12.5x18 with minimal rubbing. We always recommend getting a body mount chop to avoid damaging any knobs on the tires. Most of the rubbing will accuse in the plastic fenders you can either cut it out or melt it back.
Tire size is one thing, wheel size is another. See the best traction available off roading, no matter the tires requires a sidewalk hight you just can’t get with wheels over 16-18”!! Sidewall flex is key to getting through the toughest terrain and deep sand. Otherwise with wheels up especially over 20”, all you get looks, if that’s what you like?
@@overlandtundras yeah I know ppl who runs them and been wondering how they set the height. In the video I see clearly how it’s done. It is very sketchy but if everyone isn’t complaining then it must work. A thread shock body would be more ideal though. Thanks for sharing all the tips. I’ll be installing these on my 2021 dc limited, just waiting to break it in a bit.
@@hmoob-dab-tsi7572 yea I’m on kings Coilovers now and loving them. I’d advise if it’s in the finances save up for a good suspension that you won’t have to replace in the near future.
@@overlandtundras imo these upgrades are fairly reasonable. I recalled spending $1200-1600 on coilovers for a honda civic. I honestly don’t like the bouncing of my limited, seems the 5100s will solve that issue. Slightly stiffer but smooth and still comfortable on road
Best tutorial for install. I’ve done four sets on F150s, I was looking for info for the Tundra install. Calling out tools ahead of time, sequence, etc...Nice job
Thanks. Trying to make it easy for everyone!!
Same here, about to do this on a Tundra for the first time and this video is EXACTLY what I needed.
Great video. About 90% sound missing though. Maybe just a glitch today for some reason.
Check the channel you clicked on the one that UA-cam messed up
Y’all made it look too easy! Best install video out there for tundra suspension upgrade!
Thank you it’s fun working on the trucks and love sharing the knowledge. Basic suspension but same premise for all other suspensions.
I second that. Well done!
Subscribed....after all, I did just buy a 2022 tundra! And I want to overland my tundra. Great video guys. I can't wait to get a small lift for my air bag tundra.
Thanks bro! Get that lift and start having fun with it!
Oh yea! I installed the Bilstein 5100 setup in my 2019 Colorado Crew Cab 4x4, V6. I used the next to the top hight adjustment available, that gave 1.9”, I did that to keep the rear stock, to tow my 26’, 4,400-6,400 lb travel trailer, all nice an level, while giving the truck a 1.9” front lift, that still leave a rear hight bias empty, but still level with up to 1,100 lb before any sag. The best part is the same increase in suspension travel, front and rear, using stock springs! Great supple ride, with improved dampening. Now I’ll have room for 33” tires, when the original have at least 35k on them! Then I’ll get GoodYear Trail Runners in 265/75-16, that will give me all I need forthwith level of off road I do.
That’s awesome, def great setup for the price
Enjoyed the professionalism.
Thank you 🙏
Just found this channel. Subbed, looking forward to videos of other projects for Tundra off-roading and over-landing. Right now my Tundra is undergoing a project with my local shop. It's about a 3 year long project.
Ohh wow sounds like it’s going to be an amazing build.
I just bought a tundra… and man I am liking the more aggressive tires on the stock rims. I have those exact rims on my truck and they look amazing with the more aggressive tires
Yes km3 are the way to go. They are a little pricier and there was a shortages however by far the greatest Mudd Terrain tire I’ve had
What size tires? I am looking to do this level/ lift on my 2015 Tundra and have the same rims (18x8). Did you have to trim anything to avoid rubbing?
Looks Awesome!
Audio seems to have been clipped in and out by UA-cam, sadly
Yea unfortunately something went wrong and it deleted all the sounds and not sure if it can be fixed. Might have to uploaded it again.
Please do!
I switched to 5100s on my 2006 in driveway but like seeing/hearing the tricks to more accurately install as I used old original OEM Springs and Top Plate, so if ever do again shall replace ALL to brand new!
It rides well enuf but love how your team operates.
Except no audio.
;-)
Where did the audio go halfway through??
There is a new video uploaded with the Audio check all the videos.
I’ve having mine installed on my Ford Ranger, can’t wait to see it. B8 adjustable Bilstein and rear shackles.
I’m sure you will love it !!
That is one badass easy lift, great vid and very thorough, to me it is, I guess you can say even I can do this setup myself. Thanks guys.
It really isn’t that difficult if you have the right tools and follow each step
Thanks for sharing. I'm getting ready to add 6112 and 5160 to my 19 tundra.
Awesome you will love it and how it handles!!
TRd exhaust tip on that thing will make her look sweet. Nice
Truck
I agree
Dang, was saving that e-bomb, but once those install beats dropped…so did it😎😂🤘🏽
Excellent vid🤘🏽🤣🤘🏽🇺🇸
Hahaha love it and thanks for the support
Please upload it again. Audio is cut out. Looks like a detailed video. Thanks
Working on it!
Bilstein 5100 Suspension Install (W/Sound)
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Excellent video. Great job. What was the new measurements on the front center hub to well? Also, I didn’t see use of torque wrench anywhere?
Unfortunately we didn’t measure this one due to the truck having to leave so quickly
Is the rear 1" blocks actually necessary to level the truck out?
I re uploaded the video since UA-cam removed the audio from this one.
Yea the block is necessary to level the truck if you go on the highway setting.
Can you post the link to the shim. Thanks! Great video!!
Here you go
shop-coachbuilder.myshopify.com/collections/accessories/products/coachbuilder-strut-coilover-shim-provides-50-of-lift
Great video. Couple questions..1) Should I rely on the 5100's to act as a lift (leveling) or should I get a 2.5-3" level kit and then add the 5100's. 2018 Tundra 4X4 crewmax. 2) Do I need a 1" block in the rear? Thanks
Good question.
I'll attempt to answer, hope it makes sense:
1) Depending on the snap ring setting, these shocks by themselves will lift your truck. Putting aftermarket shocks/coilovers on your truck and then adding a spacer kit is redundant and will negate the improved suspension performance.
2) Personally I always order rear blocks and then measure after the kit is installed because (I have no idea why) in my experience the advertised ride height isn't always what you get. And it just depends on what you want the stance to be after. I personally haul a lot so I want about an inch rake so I'm not butt dragging leaving home depot.
Couple of side notes:
- I personally don't like lifting a 4wd over 2.5" because the CV angles get a bit sporty (although I'm not an expert on every vehicle)
- I would suggest spending the extra money on new upper control arms if you plan on lifting the front end to address the new ball joint angles
Great video. Thanks for taking the time to do it. On the Tacoma, to remove spring tension on the shock, you put a jack under the lower shock eye and jack up the A arm at that point. Then remove the top shock shaft nut, lower the jack and pull the shock and spring out with no other work needed to separate the spring from the shock.
Would this not work on a Tundra? I know the Tundra has that top hat that's part of the assembly. The only problem I see is being able to get the necessary tools on that top shock shaft nut to loosen it.
Thanks!! Yes there is many ways to do it but always important to be safe as possible. As for the video this is the way the book recommends to do it.
Awesome video fellas add some links in the description for parts used 👍 🙂?
I remember when I first started learning under a master tech 20 plus years ago ,he said Change these front shocks out ,of BMW 635ci ,never worked on suspension, he leaves says have it done ,I like a dummy, get it out ,put it on the shop floor sideways, started unbolting it ,an bam ,the fing spring goes flying across the shop almost hits a custom BMW he was building, I dam near shat myself, an lost a hand . Lesson learned 😂, use spring compressor.
😯 thats super scary! Springs scare me to death.
🤣👀Definitely
Great video and presentation!
Appreciate it
Awesome video! If I do the 2.5 lift in the front and I have the same 5100s in the rear do I need to do the block in the rear? I’ve got 32s on the front and I’m just trying to eliminate rubbing. It’s on the same year 2017 tundra.
If you are towing and or have heavy weight in the back from a bedrack then yes if not you should be fine.
At 24:11, it looks like you have seepage from the differential. How many miles are on it?
Don’t recall on this one. However this member likes playing in the mud so it could be moisture from mud that sat on the axle.
I’m still skeptical about that snap ring. If I do it I probably jb weld it.
I would t stress over it I beat up that suspension off-roading and no issues
I'm considering the prospect of installing 5100s in my 2006 Toyota Tundra 2WD V8 Access Cab. Presently, the front of the truck is 2 1/2" lower than the rear. The previous owner had installed a set of helper leaf springs (SuperSprings) in the rear, which I plan on removing. I want to get the truck leveled, but I also want the most comfortable ride I can achieve. I'm not planning on any off-roading. Will the ride quality be affected by the different lift options, i.e. will highest lift also give you the stiffest ride? - If it is, is there any way of leveling the truck and still getting a comfortable ride? Thanks! 🙂
From my personal experience there is not much change in quality of ride from highest to lowest. We alway recommend adding leaf pack in the back or a leaf shackle to raise the back. Blocks are a cheap solution but ideally you want something that is not a spacer. You might consider leaving that leaf pack if it’s not to high
@@overlandtundras Thanks very much for taking the time to respond... good information! 🙂
He says to put everything back to factory torque specs. They’re hard to find. Can you let me know what they are?
Tundra Torques
Tie rod end: 51 ft Ibs
Top coilover bolts: 33 ft Ibs
Bottom coilover bolt: 144 ft Ibs
Wheel: 97 ft Ibs
Upper control arm ball joint: 81 ft Ibs
Steering knuckle: 81 ft Ibs
Sway bar bolt: 89 ft Ibs
Top stabilizer bolt: 111 ft Ibs
Lower control arm ball joint
attachment(2 bolts): 221 ft Ibs
Lower ball joint: 123 ft Ibs
Aluminum wheel: 97 ft Ibs
Steel wheel: 154 ft Ibs
Control sensor wire A: 10 ft Ibs on UCA
Control sensor wire B: 21 ft Ibs on
spindle
Sway bar brackets bracket (4 bolts): 51
ft Ibs
UCA through bolt for TC UCA: 173 ft Ibs
Uniball: 100 ft Ibs
Rear spring: 77 ft Ibs
Rear Ubolt: 74 ft Ibs
Rear shock upper: 21 ft Ibs
Rear shock lower: 66 ft Ibs
Oct 28, 2016 Report
These were specs found online
Thanks
Super clean job and looks great...💯🤙
Where the shop?I would love to get work done by a good tech!
Located in Jacksonville Florida! Are you here in jax?
hey there for the rear shocks how much torque for the top nut?
Upper 21 and lower 66
Awesome video!!! I have a question though, I want to install these shocks and set it at the highest level to remove the rake in front but do I have to install the spacer in the rear of the tundra?
Yes you would need a spacer or leaf shackles to give you that level.
I tried measuring the height of the truck as is and I have about 2 1/4” of difference. My question is if I set it at the highest setting and adding the block or spacer in the back, will that still leave a small rake or will it stay level?
@@leosantander4911 so depending west and shocks on the truck it could be that you have a lot more west on the front but when you switch out all the front and rear shocks you most definitely will need the spacer. The spacer is cheap so I would install all the shocks and see how it looks and if the back sits low afterwards then add the spacer. Keep in mind once you lower the truck from the lift or jack you will need an alignment and drive it around for the suspension to settle
Dope! looking forward to more contents!!
Thank you for the informative video. I am looking to do a very similar setup on my 2021 limited with the trd off rd pkg, keeping my factory TRD wheels.
What size tires did you use?
Did you need to use wheel spacers for this setup?
This truck eventually went to 35s with a body mount chop to avoid rubbing!
Hi my 2014 tundra I hot 5100 installed by shop but now I got popping and crackling coming from the front end when turning and when I brakes
Nice work
Very well detailed video ! 👍. I would have went with the middle setting on the front . Not a big fan of the squatted look . Need a little rake for towing or hauling weight in the bed.
Thanks for the input , I agree I’d rather have a slight rake however this one after settling it was perfectly leveled.
It looks perfectly level to me too. Don’t like the squat look either but this doesn’t have it. Will do this to mine as well.
If you go with the middle setting would you need the block in the back?
Does it need to have spacer on the back?
Yes you will need the back spacer unless you have upgraded coachbuilder shackles that raise the back 1”
How did you get your diff to drop I’m using jacks and I have the spacer but my diff doesn’t budge
You can use a jack do slightly drop it cautiously while using the jacks to hold the frame
@@overlandtundras ohhhh okay…..am I going to need to take the u-bolts off first before I lower it or should I do that afterwards
@@datboilarry_8219 put it on the jack stands. Hold the diff with the jack. Loosen the ubolts and slowly drop the diff with the jack. I’d keep the unbolt nut on until you have safely lowered the diff that way if anything happens to your jack the diff won’t slam to the ground.
Do one side at a time
Hey, awesome video. I just purchased 5100’s front and back for my 2020 tundra crewmax. A couple questions.
1. If I go with the middle settings do I need the block in the rear and will that setup level it out?
2. If I go with the top setting and the shim on the driver side is the shackle better than the block?
3. Is the lean on the tundra just on the front driver side or do you need
something at the back as well?
4. How heavy of a load can I go in the back with just the block or shackle. I rarely put anything in the back but ever so often I’ll get some lumber from Home Depot or toss the snow blower in the back?
Thanks for the love and support!
1.Middle setting shouldn’t need a block in the rear of the truck is newer and rear leafs aren’t beat up
2. Yes sh kale will always be better than the block for ride quality
3. The lean is just the front you won’t have to do anything on the rear.
4. With the shackle your are simply raising the rear of the truck. You can still load heavy thing in the truck but depending how heavy you go it will slightly sag.
Best recommendation is to go top setting and rear shackle.
@@overlandtundras thanks so much man. Wish I were close by, I’d get it all done at your shop. Canada is a bit far..🤣
Great video. Thank you for doing it.
Thank you for your support. Making it easy for everyone
Thanks for sharing this!! Just wish I was closer so he could do my truck!! What are your thoughts on altering leaf springs if I plan on periodically towing 7k-9k pound RV? Oh, and what were the “after” measurements? Didn’t see that in the video.
So on my personal build I have icon add a leaf. Gives about an inch of lift and heavy duty for those that have extra weight in the back. I highly recommend it because it’s only a couple of hundred dollars compared to a full new set of leafs which are over $1k right now.
As far as the measurements we didn’t add them to the video because the alignment was so off that it wouldn’t be an accurate readying until it got aligned.
@@overlandtundras Do you still need the block if you add the leaf?
What size tires ?
In this video 33” however he did upgrade to 35”
What size shim do you need for drivers side lean? I’m getting 5100s installed on front, but using middle setting would shim size be different?
I would get the smaller shim. The big shim is for higher setting and when you want height
So this may be a dumb question and could probably be answered if I just measure it. But I’m fixing to have these installed myself. And the rear just seems waaaay higher than the front, so much so that I’m worried even the tallest setting won’t level it. Will the rear kind of drop or angle different when you raise the front or will it sit pretty much the same? I’d rather use the middle setting for more comfort but I also want it to look good and level.
From factory tundras come with a rake, meaning rear is higher so when you add anything to the bed or tow it doesn’t have a nasty sag. The middle setting should level it out. Everyone wants the most lift so for that you would put it on the highest setting and get a one inch block for the rear. So really depends what you are doing. If you are adding bigger tires or wider wheels you will need/want the most clearance. Hope that answers your question.
Nice job.
Why not change the springs?
As long as you don’t have a bumper or accessories that bring the front down then there is no need to replace it.
What size tires you running with this set up
He was rubbing 33s and now running 35s
Another detailer with a tundra lol. That’s 3 now that I know of.
Lol I know like 10 they are great trucks for work!
Great video! I already have a 3” spacer lift in the front and 1” block in the rear running 35’s with no rub, love the look. I want to pull out the spacer for better ride and safety, and just run the 5100’s on the highest setting to keep my lift, but don’t want to lose any ride height. How much height will I actually lose (if any) using the shock vs. the spacer? Thanks!
Hey Chris.
So depending on your set up and if you have bumpers or winches or anything. If it’s stock most likely you will lose about .25” to compensate for this you could get a heavier duty spring.
@@overlandtundras Also someone suggested a tiny .50' shim to keep me at a full 3" lift. I found a set from Wulf Suspensions for $33. I'll report back! Thanks again!!
@@chrismak4859 we like to use the coach builder ones. I post the link. However these are usually used on Coilovers and have never tried them on 5100’s
shop-coachbuilder.myshopify.com/products/coachbuilder-strut-coilover-shim-provides-1-00-of-lift
What is normally the out the door cost of this? Parts and labor?
Prices have changed. Ball park for parts you are looking at $500-$600 and then install another $500. So out the door about $1100-1300 depending on the shop and parts. 2 years ago you could do this for less than $1k making it the best bag for your buck
@@overlandtundras Awesome. Thank you so much for the quick response! Great video👍
Rear shackle vs leaf spring? What’s the better option?
Really depends the application. If you are carrying a lot of weight I would recommend leaf’s. On my personal build I have shackle and icon leaf pack.
@@overlandtundras I rarely carry lots of weight. Everyone once in a while. Might got he shackle route. Thank You
@@Trd2020 yes shackle will def be your best option and best ride. David at coachbuilder is a solid dude and has some amazing products. If you speak with him tell him we sent you!
Audio cuts out after a couple minutes
There is 2 videos one with audio and one without check the channel for the one with audio. Sorry UA-cam messed one of them up
@@overlandtundrasfound it, thanks!
I see overland sticker, do you overland with tow/haul on? Just asking cause with it on you do get more stopping and steering power. Also engine brake too.. Can you make a video comparing on and off while overlanding
Depending on terrain and what we are doing dictates how we drive if it’s in sport mode, 4hi, or 4low. I’ve never tried tow on. Will have to give that one a try.
@@overlandtundras this truck new to me. Sport mode?
@@p.r.6220 where you shift it into manual mode and can stay in a certain gear
@@overlandtundras oh ok.. Just redline 1st.. POWER!
Hi, This seems to be a different way of adding a leveling kit except you're just using the spring body instead of a spacer block. A lot of those leveling kits have a diff drop with them to reduce the CV angle back to normal. Do you think that would be a good investment to go along with this install? Thanks Kurt M.
Diff drops are recommended for 3”+ this one is slightly under and after install and alignment no issues. After every install there is a 100-500 mile retorque where everything is looked at and no wear or issues with geometry. Every truck is different of course.
Don't need a diff drop since it less than 3 inches of lift.
Awesome video and great explanation on how to install. Do I need to install the driver side coilover shims on my 2014 toyota sr5 tundra? I have the 5100 installed on the rear and planning to install the 5100 for the fronts soon. Is it recommended to install the shim in the driver's side? Thanks again for the great video
So from factory it comes with the lean so adding the shin just corrects the lean. Without it is fine, for my purpose on my puedo Al build I need as much lift as possible so I used the coachbuilder shim on each side to give me 1” of lift. For your purpose you can go with or without.
@@overlandtundras thank you for the reply. Always great videos. I appreciate the tips.
@@overlandtundras last question, what settings do you recommend, my tires are 295/60/r20. Should I use the top setting to get the most lift or middle setting will suffice if I added that shim on driver side?
@@ige924 I would recommend always going with the top setting. Tundras have small wheel wells and most of the time need to cut the body mount chop. So go as high as you can the ride will still be nice. Don’t forget the rear block or some shackles to level the truck
@@overlandtundras thank you again 🙏
Not sure if you read the comments but I'm curious about the cordless tools you're using. Do they have good power and torque?
Yess no complaints from snap on and matco
Snap on impacts are nice but Milwaukee is the way to go. Just an opinion after using both.
Nice video but no sound
There is one with out sound and with sound. Check out the channel. UA-cam messed one up
Found it. Best vid out there for the job. So much easier. Thanks.
@@datwyl01 awesome!
@@overlandtundras Actually, unless I missed it. The mechanic mentions needing a 14mm, 17mm, and 19mm at the beginning, but didnʻt mention other sizes. Also needed a 22mm for the 2 LCA knuckle bolts, and 24mm to loosen the LCA. Would be great to see an overlay caption of the socket/wrench sizes at each step. But other than that, it was totally helpful.
Is it just me or is a good majority of this video audio?
Unfortunately UA-cam muted a big part of the video. I need to re upload it.
Bilstein 5100 Suspension Install (W/Sound)
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Would this install require a differential drop kit? Or is it good to go as is?
This is technically under 3” so does not require it.
@@overlandtundras Awesome, thanks!!
Do you know what was the height from center of hub to top of well? Thanks.
We will have to check now. We usually wait till alignment is done.
Did you stay with 1 inch rear block?
Yes this truck stayed with the one inch block. We recommend getting a leaf shackle to avoid a block and for a better ride however this member was ok with the 1” block.
@@overlandtundras would the new shackle hang up more when off-roading?
@@p.r.6220 not at all it sits high enough where you will not have any issues
@@overlandtundras Disregard previous comment I found my answer! Thanks!
Do you suggest running them at the top setting or middle? I’ve read a ton to only use the middle 1.7 inch setting as top can be “bad” for the shock and ride quality .
Thanks
I’ve personally ran my tundra on top setting and no issues at all. I’ve taken it off road, mid, sand and no issues
The ride gets stiffer as you go higher, being that the setting adjustments compress the spring , best to install lift springs to get the added height and put on 1st setting, will also be able to use entire travel of shock, by compressing the shock you are somewhat limiting the travel
@@overlandtundras how are the front struts holding up?
Would this tutorial also work for a 2007 tundra?
Yes it would!
@@overlandtundras good man, thank you
@@overlandtundras awesome video. Im about to order the Bilstein 5100 for my 2021 tundra trd sport. I noticed that they also sell. Front strut in the 5100 instead of the front shock. Just curious on what you think is a better option.
@@jwatson923 it should be al the same I think it’s just different terminology. Feel free to send the link and I can check it out.
Do you need that spacer on the rear? I have 2017 Tundra I was looking to put the 5100s on to level.
If you are going on the highest setting in the front then yes you will need a block, leave shackle, or upgrade leafs so it’s leveled. Also keep in mind if you are always carrying heavy items in your bed or have an offroad bedrack with rooftop tent and spare tires you might need a bigger block to compensate the weight.
@@overlandtundras I see you used a block but is there any benefit to either block or shackle? Or better yet is any other parts necessary for either one?
Thanks for the video a'lot of good info here!
What tires did he end up going with
33x12.5x18
@@overlandtundras hopefully no rubbing I want this setup
@@keatonjohnson263 only a small piece of the inner fender that was trimmed. We always recommend a body mount chop and with trimming the plastic inner fender
can you run 285/60r20 with just the 5100 at top setting?
Yes you can however the most important thing is offset on the wheels. If you have an agreed I’ve offset you are def going to need a body mount chop.
@@overlandtundras +12 is what I'm looking at
@@TheRogerKyle you will be fine. If any trimming it will be minor like plastics. The sweet spot is 0 to + 10
What size tires did he go with?
BFG 33x12.5x18
Do I need differential drop kit for from after 5100
They are recommended for 3” and more. So you shouldn’t need them for 5100. However have your angels checked out
I have a 4in Procomp on my 16 with stock coil overs and Procomp rear shocks.Can these Bilsteins be installed on mine in the front keeping stock springs?
So what I’m thinking is that on top of your strut you must have some kind of spacer? I always advise to get away from spacers and get the right strut/coilover so you can avoid that spacer. If you use the 5100 bilsteins you will still need that spacer.
@@overlandtundras only way to get higher lift then 3” is with top plate spacer? Top plate spacer is ok for mild off-roading, but you will need to get larger bump stops, so you don’t bottom out on the shock, in lieu of the bump stop
Where did you purchase the strut shim from? Thanks
You can buy them from the link below.
shop-coachbuilder.myshopify.com/products/coachbuilder-strut-coilover-shim-provides-50-of-lift
Jus got mine in did u use ur washers off the old spring cause mine did not come with any
Yes you can use that hardware
Intro music name?
How much do you charge labor for installing this set up on the tundra? And where are you located?
Donate is our master tech. His installs start from $500 on suspensions depending on what all it entails. Located in Jacksonville Florida.
@@overlandtundras I am located in Jacksonville FL and would love to this done on my 2017 Tundra. I cannot seem to find your shop details on google. Can you provide your shop contact information please?
Hi guys , can you give an advice . I got 2021 CrewMax 4x4 Tundra Limited and want only to level it up . Can I go with the 5100s front and rear and set up front on middle setting and get it leveled ?
As long as you don’t add any weight like a bumper it should level it out.
@@overlandtundras I’m not planning to do anything besides that ! Thank you guys !!!
Really enjoyed your video, looking to do the 5100’s on my tundra, did the 1/2” spacer for the drivers side lean come with the kit and does the 1” spacer on the rear differential also come with the kit or do you need to get them separately?
Unfortunately right now with covid it’s tricky to get parts together. At once you could buy most of everything from Amazon. You will have to get a standard Toyota Tundra spacer block for the back, and the shim for the shock you will find the link below.
shop-coachbuilder.myshopify.com/products/coachbuilder-strut-coilover-shim-provides-50-of-lift
@@overlandtundras where do you get the 1/2 plate for the drivers side? Do all tundra sag
@@kevinmansur3690 yes they all do have the lean. Below is the link
shop-coachbuilder.myshopify.com/products/coachbuilder-strut-coilover-shim-provides-50-of-lift
Where in Jacksonville, FL is your shop located? I am in Jacksonville and cannot seem to locate your shop details via google.
Check out the website link below. Donate Mainly specializes in mobile mechanics however has an amazing shop for working on these amazing build.
mcnishgenuineautomotive.com
What's the total install time on this?
Experienced installer it should take about 90 minutes. An average person without lift could take up to 3-4 hours
Anyone done this method at home with a jack and stand? For the fronts?
I’ve seen multiple people do it. Ideally you might need multiple jacks since you are lower and you don’t kill your back.
How’s the ride? Did 5100’s on mine on the top and it’s pretty rough
It rides amazing. I personally had this on my truck and for the money it’s the best bang for your buck.
I have a '21 tundra 4x4. My dealership told me if i lift i will loose warranty.. Is that B.S. ?
So it’s a double edge sword. You will not lose the warranty. However if anything fails due to the lift they will bit cover it. As you know warranty’s are like insurance companies and they will find anyway to get out of paying out. One thing to keep in mind is that a suspension lift is very minimal. Essential only shocks, blocks, or shackles so I wouldn’t be to concerned unless you are doing a big lift.
I want same lift as in video... Keeping same wheels and tires.. It was a 3k option.. Tss offroad edition tundra
@@p.r.6220 if the dealer says anything I would
Say “ you just upgraded shocks”
How can I get the torque specifications?
We always recommend you reach out to the manufacture of the parts and have them give you the appropriate specs for your specific truck.
your volume keeps cutting in and out
There is another video with the audio. UA-cam messed this one up
great how-to video.
Question- in setting the 5100s to max height, does that change the steering goemetry?
Thank you! It does nit change the geometry. Once you go over 3” and over is when you will start needing differential drop to keep the geometry the same. The highest setting on 5100 is no more that 2.5”. Just make sure you get an alignment ASAP and you will be good
@@overlandtundras
Thanks for the quick reply. Alignment yes. One more question if you don't mind. I see some kits sold don't come with a dust boot. How important is this to have?
Eric
@@blackswanodysseys I would say it’s very important you want to keep it protected as much as possible especially with mud and all the elements. You can find them relatively cheap on Amazon/eBay
Bummer about the audio
This one has audio
Bilstein 5100 Suspension Install (W/Sound)
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Can you please tell us what new tires went on after this kit was installed? Thank you!
In the video they have 33” tires however he has now upgraded to 35” tires.
Hey OLTundra, been awhile, just wondering how's the ride with the bilstein 5100? I'm just going to mod the way this truck has, I don't do crazy rock crawlings. Just enough to get me where I need to be in the mountains to camp and hunt, tow my boat and fish. I heard spacers will break the strut shafts and it just kinda made me thinking should I just go with the Bilstein? Also wil be ordering 18x9 18mm offset with a set of 285/75/18 Falken WidePeak. Help me out asap, what do you think?
The ride is great! I ran them for about a year and no complaints. As long as the wheels are positive 18 you should be fine.
where can i get the block and u bolt at?
You can get it from any lift manufacturer, amazon, eBay, etc. Just google tundra 1”block and U bolts
Would you be able to tell us what the final tire size is that he went with. Would a 275/65/R20 fit without rubbing when the shocks are set at the 2.5” setting?
These are bfg km3 33x12.5x18 with minimal rubbing. We always recommend getting a body mount chop to avoid damaging any knobs on the tires. Most of the rubbing will accuse in the plastic fenders you can either cut it out or melt it back.
Tire size is one thing, wheel size is another. See the best traction available off roading, no matter the tires requires a sidewalk hight you just can’t get with wheels over 16-18”!! Sidewall flex is key to getting through the toughest terrain and deep sand. Otherwise with wheels up especially over 20”, all you get looks, if that’s what you like?
Sketchy design imo. They could of done a better job of with the snap rings
It seems that way, I’ve had this same set up for off-roading and beat them and no issues. I was skeptical at first.
@@overlandtundras yeah I know ppl who runs them and been wondering how they set the height. In the video I see clearly how it’s done. It is very sketchy but if everyone isn’t complaining then it must work. A thread shock body would be more ideal though. Thanks for sharing all the tips. I’ll be installing these on my 2021 dc limited, just waiting to break it in a bit.
@@hmoob-dab-tsi7572 yea I’m on kings Coilovers now and loving them. I’d advise if it’s in the finances save up for a good suspension that you won’t have to replace in the near future.
@@overlandtundras imo these upgrades are fairly reasonable. I recalled spending $1200-1600 on coilovers for a honda civic. I honestly don’t like the bouncing of my limited, seems the 5100s will solve that issue. Slightly stiffer but smooth and still comfortable on road
Useless without sound
Sorry youtube messed it up. Working on uploading it again with the sound
Bilstein 5100 Suspension Install (W/Sound)
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