Just found your 3 year old video after buying my first Toyota ever. A new to me 2016 Tundra SuperCrew SR5 with the TRD package and the 5.7. Definitely will be asking questions in the discord in the future and loving my new truck so far! Long overdue. See you all soon.
Awesome video! This video is a must watch for anyone considering a lift for their Tundra. I spent so much time trying to track this information down from various places when I lifted my truck. You did an amazing job and I appreciate you taking the time to provide so much information in an easy to understand way. I will be sharing this one a lot!
Appreciate the support... I am working on a bunch of new informative overland videos right now... should se them coming out over the next couple weeks.
Well I did 6" lift, 46 gal fuel tank, aftermarket bumpers and 35's, love what it looks and feels like. Soon I'll be regearing to the 5.29's and arb lockers. Why all of this some may ask, because I love the off road more than blacktop roads!
This is more than excellent, it is superior to all the other videos I have watched on the subject of fitting 35 inch tires on a Tundra. You pack a lot of very specific information into this video and that helped a lot. I did not believe a 35 inch spare would fit into the spare space even with the trimming you mentioned. That makes my decision to go with a 35 inch tire much easier. This is very well organized and covers all the variables which is exactly what is needed. The one area that I found lacking is a discussion of the brakes. First, I wonder if the added diameter and weight of the 35 tire and wheel will affect the braking distance. It seems that more rolling weight makes braking less efficient. Second is the issue of offset vs protection of the brake. I notice that Toyota OEM wheels have a very large positive offset which puts the brakes deep into the wheel. There is no way a rock or branch can hit the brake. Wheels with negative offset expose the brakes to road hazards. I believe the 1 inch negative offset that you have on your vehicle will still put the brakes sufficiently into the wheel to avoid damage.
Rather than cutting the spare tire brackets, you can just drill out the rivets and move them forward, reattaching them by one bolt. My 285/75 R18 Duratrac (measures at 34.5") spare fits just fine...
Thanks so much for the video. I've watched many others on this topic. Yours is by far the most thorough and comprehensive. And you're a very good speaker. This was very helpful for me!
Fantastic piece. Installing 35" trail grapplers on Method 305NVs. Replacing front and rear bumper, and installing the Westcott TRD Pro leveling kit ( front and rear ). Will report back. I lucked into following your suggestions on the wheel. 0 offset, 17" wheel. Tires are 12.5" wide. Stoked!
This was all extremely useful information. I have a black 2018 Tundra DC TRD OffRoad with a tow package. I ended up going with an Icon Stage 3 lift kit, which included rear springs. I bought ICON UCAs as I figured I might as well do that while everything is being worked on. I also added a CBI front bumper with a 12k winch and RCI rock sliders and front skid plate. I chose 17" Method 301s in bronze, and 34.5 BF Goodrich. So far everything is perfect, no rubbing that I am aware of yet, and no BMC. I just got this done and am heading up this coming weekend for some of my favorite 4x4 roads. I am in the process now of putting on the spare. The guys at the shop mentioned that the tailpipe will be very close to spare, and compromise the rubber. So I ended up wrapping the tailpipe in motorcycle exhaust tape and then spraying it with high heat silicone. This is the stuff that people put on their motorcycle tailpipes so they won't burn their legs. Hopefully that helps. I am in the process of deciding between cutting the bracket or moving it. I guess moving it seems better as it would be nice to have a little of that stability that the brackets offer.
@@OutdoorAuto Well, I went the other route and drilled out the 4 rivets and I would never wish that upon anyone. You need a drill with a variety of bits, a chisel and small sledge hammer, a punch. A stream of small shards of metal rain down from above the whole time. I would not recommend this route and would have 1000% preferred to use my grinder to lop off a few inches off of each bracket. Oh vey.
@@codybam After using it all summer I do have a small amount of rubbing. I have Method 701, 0 offset, 17". I got UCAs and a 3" lift, aftermarket bumper and skid.
@seanriley007 I ended up doing the BMC for my Icon 18s with 20 offset on Toyo Open County RT Trails 35s. No rub, no scrub at full lock out. Ended up putting Bilstein 8100s and 8112s with Icon RXT leaf springs and Bilstein UCAs. She sits nice and rides smooth
It is now 3 months on from when I watched this video and the 35 inch tires are on my 2007 Toyota Tundra SR5. The tires are BF Goodrich T/A 35X12.5R18 123R, KO2type. These cost $471.00 each including tax and shipping from Amazon. The wheels are Vision Turbine 353, 18X9 inch 5X150 with a +12 mm offset. These cost $205 each including shipping and tax, again from Amazon. These are cast aluminum. I raised the vehicle only 1 1/2 inches using Bilstein struts which necessitated a Body Mount Chop. These are adjustable to 2 1/2 inches but that would have put the front of the vehicle up too much. I also cut off about 2 inches from the lower part of the front bumper to be sure of good clearance. This was easy to do with a metal cutting wheel on my 4 inch grinder. The rear wheel wells are large enough so no metal had to be cut. The tires stick out so I added 4 inch flexy flares by Pacer which give good coverage. Beware that that the tire and wheel will weigh 102 pounds when inflated. This is a problem if one can not lift this amount when putting on a new tire/wheel. I made a roller jig that will get the tire/wheel up to the axle without ruining my back. I hope this fills in the details for those of you who have Toyota Tundras 2007 - 21.
That’s really well worded and much appreciated as I’m just getting a new 2021 tundra and going for 35’s right off the top but there’s so much misinformation and stuff all over the place. The wheel offset is so critical to maximizing tire fitment.
2015 tundra 1794 running 35x12.50r17 cooper evolution mt on icon 17x8.5 +25 only mod is smittybilt m1 front bumper. Rubs on driver body mount when turned to lock. No lift. Love em but 6112/5160 kit on the way. Hey great videos btw!
Great job Nathan! Way to break it all down. So many variables that people seem to lack the bigger picture of understanding. Boss 4x4 makes front bumper spaces that push the front bumper forward a 1/2 inch so you dont have to trim any plastic on the inside of the bumper fyi.
My goal is to eventually go with 37's but I figured I would go with 35's till I can get some of the other items in place such as aftermarket coil-overs and UCA's. In a TRD PRO so even contemplated running 1inch spacers front and rear to get the additional room. Rims I'm looking at are at a +6 offset. Your video was very helpful on all aspects. I dislike how many people say oh this won't fit or that won't fit without truly understanding each variable like you have explained.
I have Titan XD and looking upgrade to 35 with 17, so contact offset custom with options. The Titan OE wheel is Size: 18x7.5, Lugs: 6, Bolt Pattern: 5.5 Inch, Offset: 41.5mm. They suggest to go with +12 offset max unless I wanted to try 0. So your video makes sense as Nissan and Toyota has really high +offset from manufacture compare to domestic trucks
Dude this is super helpful. Straight & to the point. You should really do the same kind of simple breakdown/least amount of mods possible to add 37s. It would be nice to have that break down so people can compare. Great video!!
If you go with 37's without just stacking spacers, a body lift, or sky jacking your truck.... there is no easy way... it is very involved. Lots of cutting, Relocation of part of your emissions system, relocation of air intake, BMC, upgraded bumps all around, Fiberglass front and rear if you want them to full stuff. Then after cutting all that out you need to go back and make custom fender linings... I am sure i a missing... but 37's are a big lift.
I ended up putting 37x 12.5 ko2's on a fox 2.5 coilover lift. I purposely picked the Ko2s because they measure 36.5. Stock bumper liner cut and BMC with a 0 offset wheel.
Really??? I'm putting Bilstein 8112s in the front and 8100s in the back, 3.25" lift in the front and 2 in the back, with a pre runner style front bumper. With that set up, do you feel a +1 offset would only require the BMC? Or would a +12 offset eliminate the BMC? Fyi, I'll be running the same BFG KO2 ATs, and I'm not scared if the BMC if need be. TIA
Thanks man great info. Exactly what I needed. I’ve called numerous shops here in SoCal and surprised on what they tell me I need to clear a 35” tire. They all have different opinions.
Yeah that is the problem... it is usually because each of them are only working with a couple of the variables rather than all of them. The Offset really is one of the most important factors to make 35's fit easy.
Yeah, most shops give advice on how to clear 35/37's using street lift mods, they're not true off-road capable suspension upgrades because they aren't really off-road shops. A lot of them are just lift-mills for the mall crawler crowd.
I've got 35x12.5x18 with a +18 offset on Ridge Grapplers and ~4" of lift in the front. I had to do a BMC. I also rub on the fender liners a bit when backing up and the wheel gets to a certain point in the turn, as well as when moving forward and turning while going over angled entrances.
Nathan..I have 2020 TRD PRO and put 285/75R18 Duratracs(truly 35 inch tall tire but narrower) on my stock rims. I only have slight rubbing at full lock on the front sway bar. It doesn't bother me because I rarely have to turn full lock. I believe if those TRD PRO rims were less positive offset like +50 there would be absolutely no rubbing on that front sway bar.
I have an 05 tundra with low miles it’s a limited crew 4x4 I’ve had a 3 inch level kit on it and been running 17” fj cruiser wheels with 285/70/17s BFG ko2s and loved that set up. Well I’ve let the truck sit for a while and it’s in very good shape for it’s age so instead of getting a new truck I decided to do what I want to my tundra and freshen tun tun up a little so……. I went and bought a set of mayhem wheels 20” with a -18 offset and a set of venom power terra hunter Mts 33/12.50 and having fitment issues with the upper control arm so I’m just going to lift this bad boy and throw some 35s or 37s on it. I love this truck and you see these things everywhere but you never see this body style really custom. so y’all pray for this adventure I’m about to endure with freshening up my tundra. It’s going to be a journey I can tell lol
Dude, what an underated video with GREAT information! I am actually in the process of installing a 3.5" RC lift and have BFG KO2 35x12.50 18's and 18x9 +1 wheels waiting for install as well. I will update you all on confirming exactly what Nathan says. Thanks for the info. Definitely add to the confidence in reassuring me about the setup I had decided on. Any other suggestions of what to expect with this setup please suggest away! :) (2017 Tundra)
With 35 x 12.5 inch tires and a 3 inch lift. And a +7 offset i still ended up rubbing on body mount. I thinks its the tires i chose. But i did the body mount chop at the end and all is well. ( i think if your doing the same, and picked a less aggressive tire you would not rub. I ran Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T LT315/70R17 for anyone else doing this. Thanks agian Nate!
Yeah.. the Baja Boss are very wide... I measured the 12.50's and they actually measure 13.5.... they are the oposite of BFG they actually measure large.
Loved all the details man thank you. I'm going to 35's now probably 20 inch rims 20 offset but im scared about the backspacing which I dont really know my starting point. its a 2020 trd pro. thanks again.
@outdoorAuto - So after a good year of use I found that I do have a bit of rubbing on the front inside when at full turn. I have 34.5" BFG (12.5), a 3" Icon life, Icon UCAs, an aftermarket bumper, and Method 701 Trail Series, with a 0" offset. The 0" offset means my tires stick out a bit more than my liking. I end up getting tons of mud and junk covering my truck. I also get that little bit of rub. I'd prefer to have the tires sucked inside a bit more. I am wondering if I could switch to the Method 703s, which have a +35" offset? Would that cause rubbing with the 34.5" BFGs (12.5)? I could even get a slightly narrower tire if needed.
Great in-depth analysis Nathan! Love the honest input you provide here on your channel - Super helpful and inciteful! I'm a Toyota/Lexus guy myself waiting to upgrade my 2nd Gen Tacoma to a Tundra but waiting for the new platform unvail to decide between generations. Just saw the new Raptor reveal and wonder how it stacks up to your 37" Tundra - any thoughts on a possible comparison video in the future?
Cheers excellent video and very instructive. Just what I needed because tomorrow I install and wheels RRW 17" AND TIRES BF GOODRICH 35. But I didn't quite understand how you gain that extra inch by moving the bumper. I'm sorry my English is not very good. Do you have any video applying that technique?
I have 35 BFGs on Fuels with a -12 offset and I still have some rub after doing a BMC, im going to get something with close to zero offset that is as light as possible. I also have a 35 inch spare in the stock location and just had a light bulb moment since its on the stock wheel its probably absolutely worthless lol. Could you verify that for me please? In which case i need to get 5 wheels, I mean rims haha. Thx
Appreciate the feedback... I am working on a bunch of new informative overland videos right now... should se them coming out over the next couple weeks.
I just bought a 2019 limited 4x4 no Trd package and looking to do some light off-roading on gravel maybe some light mud. Do I need to get a lift or suspension kit to get 34.5 inch tires on my 20inch Toyota rims. And will I get any rub going to a KO2?
Great video, quick question I have a 2018 tundra and I want to fit 35x12.5 with -44 offset with out doing mayor modifications a the truck, what kit do I need and what chopping do I need to do ? Thank you
IF you go -44 they will rub when you turn... you will definitely have to do a BMC. I have never tested tires that far out so I don't know how High you need to go to clear the fenders on turns either... but that could be an issue.... that just leaves a lot of tire where there wasn't meant to be tire.... so they wont tuck right either...
I have 2 inches fender flares installed, How much negative offset do I need to be even with the fender flares? And are you saying that I can fit 20x10x35 with out a lift kit? Thank you
So my recipe for my 2008 Tundra should work fine? -2.5" OME suspension lift -17x9 +0 Wheels -35x12.50R17 Tires -Simple cutting, moving and banging -Stock UCAs
I have a 17 limited 4x4 with a 3/2 lift and 2” wheel spacers on 20” factory rims. Don’t care about wider much just looking to go taller. What would my max be, was considering 34.6
This video helped a lot in my tundra build a couple years ago. So thanks again. I just asked about what cv axles you use on your long travel tundra? (With a quick response) i was wondering if you run different front axles on this tundra on 35s as well? Is so what brand? Thanks again Nate!
I stuck with the stock CV's on the gray Tundra. For the White Tundra I am running chromoly Axle shafts made by Camburg - Then I bought Toyota full CV's and have to rebuild them with the longer axles... so the total CV is a mix of Toyota OEM and Camburg shafts.
Nathan I was told and I don't think you touched on it, or I mist it, You need steel rims for overlanding, I got Fuel Aluminum wheels so I need to change wheels right, Also I put after market bump stops on front and rear Brien, So going from your video my 2020 Toyota Tundra TRD Sport I can go BFG TKo2 35" because they are actually only 34.5" now I need a body fender chop or just reposition front plastic wall with new screws right no need for 2" lift right. Also how do you determine how far you can go off road and still make it back to the gas station with the Tundra 38 gallon tank being nearly full when going off road, I was thinking 5 MPG in low range I was thinking 50 miles to be safe then head back to the HWY, what's your rule of thumb. ?
Noobie here. Glad I found your channel. It's very educational. My question is, If dropping from 18" to 17" wheels, do you have to recalibrate the speedometer?
Wheel size isn’t what messes with the speedometer- it is the overall size of the tire and wheels combined… so if you go from stock to 35’s for example you speedometer ends up a couple MPH off
Thanks for your vids. You explain things well. Have you always just used Toyota's as your platform for anything offroad-related? Have you modified any Jeeps, Fords, Chevy's, etc in the past? Thanks
Question Nathan: I have a 2018 Tundra Platinum Crewmax 4x4. I want to get a set of Method 314 17x8.5 0 offset with 4.75 backspacing. Truck is stock height. Do you think I could run a 285/70-17 tire on the methods with no rubbing. Truck came with 275/55-20's. Saving up for 3/1 lift. Thanks and happy Holidays
What's the mpg after I'm running 33x12.50x20 0offset in a 17 5.7 and only get 11.8 mpg at least that what it says on the dash. I'm thinking about switching my set up to your specs but I'm scared to lose more mpg . I tow with my truck and do long trips
I'm looking at Method's MR703 bead grip 17" wheel in +35 offset and pairing it with a 35x12.50. Do you think it will clear the UCA? On a 2.5" lift currently with spc uca
I'm looking to do something similar but with the method 701 17x8.5x0 and 35x12.5 ko2. Thinking about going with the OME 612 lift in the front. In the rear OME shocks with toytec addaleaf. Does this look good? Would I need UCA? Thanks
I have heard great things about the bead grip at low PSI in Sand.... but as for as that offset... my guess is you run into some issues... to clear 35x12.5s you really want to be closer to a 0 offset....
IF you are talking about a tundra and you are staying under 2.5" of lift... you can use the sock UCA's You will lose a little down travel but not much.... obviously it is better with UCA's like an adjustable SPC... but it will work and it wont cause dmg. I ran the stock UCA's on one of my Tundras with a 2.5" lift and 35's for a year with no issues.
I’ve been waiting on fuel wheels for my tundra for 6 months because they are still on back order. I’m going with a 17x9 +1 offset. There is still no eta on the wheels but they just informed me I could get the same wheels with a -12 offset by the end of this month. I’m not sure if that will be a problem with only having a 3-2 leveling kit running 35s please help!!
Hello, thanks for the great vids! . I have a 2013 tundra with 35s. My VSC activates in corners and freeway on-ramps. The computer basically thinks the truck is sliding and applies ABS. Have you had any ABS/VSC issues with your Tundras? If so, do you have any tips or tricks to adjust it to 35s. Appreciate it.
I just bought a Tundra Crewmax with 35s. Paid $2900. Someone else did the mods. They paid $7000 just for the lift, suspension, shocks, tires and wheels alone. I'd be less than half that for the entire truck!
Super informative video! But offset is completely dependent on rim width as well. What rim width are you referencing when you suggest rims size and offset?
Dang... I just rewatched the whole video because I was sure I mentioned that I was talking about 17x9 or 18x9 ... I just noticed that I didn't ad the 2nd part to the rim sizes. I will Pin a note to the top and mention the sizes we were using for testing. Good catch.
Nathan Mueller, Your AWESOME YOU ARE THE OVERLANDER 4X4 GURU, you make all these technical stuff easier for the Novice like me, to not look like a Dumb Ass at the local 4WD Shop to be taken advantage by.
Discovered your channel from watching Chase Christopher's video on purchasing new tires for Subarus. Subscribed!! Can you please suggest what's a good Portable Air Compressor? Thanks!
Your videos have some of the most concise, clear, and simple information in Tundra off-roading on UA-cam.
Thanks... I really appreciate the feedback. Thanks for watching 🙏
Just found your 3 year old video after buying my first Toyota ever. A new to me 2016 Tundra SuperCrew SR5 with the TRD package and the 5.7. Definitely will be asking questions in the discord in the future and loving my new truck so far! Long overdue. See you all soon.
Awesome video! This video is a must watch for anyone considering a lift for their Tundra. I spent so much time trying to track this information down from various places when I lifted my truck. You did an amazing job and I appreciate you taking the time to provide so much information in an easy to understand way. I will be sharing this one a lot!
Appreciate the support... I am working on a bunch of new informative overland videos right now... should se them coming out over the next couple weeks.
It took me a while, but figured this out a few years ago. Everything in this video is accurate!
Thanks for watching, appreciate the feedback.
Literally the most helpful video I've ever seen on Tundras, cars in general perhaps
New Video out Monday - Finally!
Well I did 6" lift, 46 gal fuel tank, aftermarket bumpers and 35's, love what it looks and feels like.
Soon I'll be regearing to the 5.29's and arb lockers. Why all of this some may ask, because I love the off road more than blacktop roads!
Might as well kick it up to some 37s then.
Make a video!
This is more than excellent, it is superior to all the other videos I have watched on the subject of fitting 35 inch tires on a Tundra. You pack a lot of very specific information into this video and that helped a lot. I did not believe a 35 inch spare would fit into the spare space even with the trimming you mentioned. That makes my decision to go with a 35 inch tire much easier.
This is very well organized and covers all the variables which is exactly what is needed.
The one area that I found lacking is a discussion of the brakes.
First, I wonder if the added diameter and weight of the 35 tire and wheel will affect the braking distance. It seems that more rolling weight makes braking less efficient.
Second is the issue of offset vs protection of the brake. I notice that Toyota OEM wheels have a very large positive offset which puts the brakes deep into the wheel. There is no way a rock or branch can hit the brake. Wheels with negative offset expose the brakes to road hazards. I believe the 1 inch negative offset that you have on your vehicle will still put the brakes sufficiently into the wheel to avoid damage.
Rather than cutting the spare tire brackets, you can just drill out the rivets and move them forward, reattaching them by one bolt. My 285/75 R18 Duratrac (measures at 34.5") spare fits just fine...
Great point!
Great info!
Thanks so much for the video. I've watched many others on this topic. Yours is by far the most thorough and comprehensive. And you're a very good speaker. This was very helpful for me!
Fantastic piece. Installing 35" trail grapplers on Method 305NVs. Replacing front and rear bumper, and installing the Westcott TRD Pro leveling kit ( front and rear ). Will report back. I lucked into following your suggestions on the wheel. 0 offset, 17" wheel. Tires are 12.5" wide. Stoked!
This was all extremely useful information. I have a black 2018 Tundra DC TRD OffRoad with a tow package. I ended up going with an Icon Stage 3 lift kit, which included rear springs. I bought ICON UCAs as I figured I might as well do that while everything is being worked on. I also added a CBI front bumper with a 12k winch and RCI rock sliders and front skid plate. I chose 17" Method 301s in bronze, and 34.5 BF Goodrich. So far everything is perfect, no rubbing that I am aware of yet, and no BMC. I just got this done and am heading up this coming weekend for some of my favorite 4x4 roads. I am in the process now of putting on the spare. The guys at the shop mentioned that the tailpipe will be very close to spare, and compromise the rubber. So I ended up wrapping the tailpipe in motorcycle exhaust tape and then spraying it with high heat silicone. This is the stuff that people put on their motorcycle tailpipes so they won't burn their legs. Hopefully that helps. I am in the process of deciding between cutting the bracket or moving it. I guess moving it seems better as it would be nice to have a little of that stability that the brackets offer.
I’ve cut the brackets and it works great. Actually working on a video showing that.
@@OutdoorAuto Well, I went the other route and drilled out the 4 rivets and I would never wish that upon anyone. You need a drill with a variety of bits, a chisel and small sledge hammer, a punch. A stream of small shards of metal rain down from above the whole time. I would not recommend this route and would have 1000% preferred to use my grinder to lop off a few inches off of each bracket. Oh vey.
What offset are your rims to not have to do the BMC and trimming? TIA
@@codybam After using it all summer I do have a small amount of rubbing. I have Method 701, 0 offset, 17". I got UCAs and a 3" lift, aftermarket bumper and skid.
@seanriley007 I ended up doing the BMC for my Icon 18s with 20 offset on Toyo Open County RT Trails 35s. No rub, no scrub at full lock out. Ended up putting Bilstein 8100s and 8112s with Icon RXT leaf springs and Bilstein UCAs. She sits nice and rides smooth
It is now 3 months on from when I watched this video and the 35 inch tires are on my 2007 Toyota Tundra SR5.
The tires are BF Goodrich T/A 35X12.5R18 123R, KO2type. These cost $471.00 each including tax and shipping from Amazon. The wheels are Vision Turbine 353, 18X9 inch 5X150 with a +12 mm offset. These cost $205 each including shipping and tax, again from Amazon. These are cast aluminum.
I raised the vehicle only 1 1/2 inches using Bilstein struts which necessitated a Body Mount Chop. These are adjustable to 2 1/2 inches but that would have put the front of the vehicle up too much. I also cut off about 2 inches from the lower part of the front bumper to be sure of good clearance. This was easy to do with a metal cutting wheel on my 4 inch grinder. The rear wheel wells are large enough so no metal had to be cut.
The tires stick out so I added 4 inch flexy flares by Pacer which give good coverage.
Beware that that the tire and wheel will weigh 102 pounds when inflated. This is a problem if one can not lift this amount when putting on a new tire/wheel. I made a roller jig that will get the tire/wheel up to the axle without ruining my back.
I hope this fills in the details for those of you who have Toyota Tundras 2007 - 21.
That’s really well worded and much appreciated as I’m just getting a new 2021 tundra and going for 35’s right off the top but there’s so much misinformation and stuff all over the place. The wheel offset is so critical to maximizing tire fitment.
This is an end all be all to tire size selection for the Tundra... Great Job!
Super helpful! Thanks, great info! Perfect timing as I’m currently in need of new tires and looking to upgrade to 35s
Glad it was helpful.... thanks for watching.
285/75/18 are my pick on stock rims. About a dozen models available, unfortunately not the BFG AT or MT.
With What mods?
2015 tundra 1794 running 35x12.50r17 cooper evolution mt on icon 17x8.5 +25 only mod is smittybilt m1 front bumper. Rubs on driver body mount when turned to lock. No lift. Love em but 6112/5160 kit on the way. Hey great videos btw!
Good to hear. I want to run 315/70R17 (34.4") on my 1794 without lift.
Great job Nathan! Way to break it all down. So many variables that people seem to lack the bigger picture of understanding. Boss 4x4 makes front bumper spaces that push the front bumper forward a 1/2 inch so you dont have to trim any plastic on the inside of the bumper fyi.
That is cool... I didn't know about those spacers from Boss.
Definitely the best video I’ve watched in any category. You definitely answered all my questions in one video. What an amazing job
Great info, I'm 1.5 years from upgrading my Tundra....if not for home projects $$$ it would be done already.
Good luck with your build! And the house projects.
Thank you some great advice without spending a ton of money. And I love the bonus idea of being able to stick a 35 underneath the truck.
My goal is to eventually go with 37's but I figured I would go with 35's till I can get some of the other items in place such as aftermarket coil-overs and UCA's. In a TRD PRO so even contemplated running 1inch spacers front and rear to get the additional room. Rims I'm looking at are at a +6 offset.
Your video was very helpful on all aspects. I dislike how many people say oh this won't fit or that won't fit without truly understanding each variable like you have explained.
I have Titan XD and looking upgrade to 35 with 17, so contact offset custom with options. The Titan OE wheel is Size: 18x7.5, Lugs: 6, Bolt Pattern: 5.5 Inch, Offset: 41.5mm. They suggest to go with +12 offset max unless I wanted to try 0. So your video makes sense as Nissan and Toyota has really high +offset from manufacture compare to domestic trucks
I run 285/75/18 on a stock pro tundra and don't rub. Those run 35x11.2 (duratracs).
Dude this is super helpful. Straight & to the point. You should really do the same kind of simple breakdown/least amount of mods possible to add 37s. It would be nice to have that break down so people can compare. Great video!!
If you go with 37's without just stacking spacers, a body lift, or sky jacking your truck.... there is no easy way... it is very involved. Lots of cutting, Relocation of part of your emissions system, relocation of air intake, BMC, upgraded bumps all around, Fiberglass front and rear if you want them to full stuff. Then after cutting all that out you need to go back and make custom fender linings... I am sure i a missing... but 37's are a big lift.
I ended up putting 37x 12.5 ko2's on a fox 2.5 coilover lift. I purposely picked the Ko2s because they measure 36.5. Stock bumper liner cut and BMC with a 0 offset wheel.
Really??? I'm putting Bilstein 8112s in the front and 8100s in the back, 3.25" lift in the front and 2 in the back, with a pre runner style front bumper. With that set up, do you feel a +1 offset would only require the BMC? Or would a +12 offset eliminate the BMC? Fyi, I'll be running the same BFG KO2 ATs, and I'm not scared if the BMC if need be. TIA
Thanks man great info. Exactly what I needed. I’ve called numerous shops here in SoCal and surprised on what they tell me I need to clear a 35” tire. They all have different opinions.
Yeah that is the problem... it is usually because each of them are only working with a couple of the variables rather than all of them. The Offset really is one of the most important factors to make 35's fit easy.
I know right. . . and then you have this guy doing this: ua-cam.com/video/snnl9BNkEWk/v-deo.html. Then I'm confused again.
Yeah, most shops give advice on how to clear 35/37's using street lift mods, they're not true off-road capable suspension upgrades because they aren't really off-road shops. A lot of them are just lift-mills for the mall crawler crowd.
@@ExtraTvingest1 Wow... that was the least helpful video ever 😂
@@tundraspecialops YES!.... Most every tells you how to "clear" them not what you need to actually "use" them.
I like ome lift. Went 33's ko2 bc I was worried about rubbing. Next purchase will be ko2 35 with fuel wheels. Thanks man!!!
Really like the factory tucked looked. I just ordered 33s with a +35mm offset. Hopefully I don't need to trim much
I've got 35x12.5x18 with a +18 offset on Ridge Grapplers and ~4" of lift in the front. I had to do a BMC. I also rub on the fender liners a bit when backing up and the wheel gets to a certain point in the turn, as well as when moving forward and turning while going over angled entrances.
You are so correct. I do have 35s x 12.5 toyo at3 on a 2.5 dobinsons lift on my 2nd gen sequoia. I didnt do a bmc and it works out fine.
So I thought I knew about offsets. I most certainly did not, until now. Thanks so much!
Nathan..I have 2020 TRD PRO and put 285/75R18 Duratracs(truly 35 inch tall tire but narrower) on my stock rims. I only have slight rubbing at full lock on the front sway bar. It doesn't bother me because I rarely have to turn full lock. I believe if those TRD PRO rims were less positive offset like +50 there would be absolutely no rubbing on that front sway bar.
I have an 05 tundra with low miles it’s a limited crew 4x4 I’ve had a 3 inch level kit on it and been running 17” fj cruiser wheels with 285/70/17s BFG ko2s and loved that set up. Well I’ve let the truck sit for a while and it’s in very good shape for it’s age so instead of getting a new truck I decided to do what I want to my tundra and freshen tun tun up a little so……. I went and bought a set of mayhem wheels 20” with a -18 offset and a set of venom power terra hunter Mts 33/12.50 and having fitment issues with the upper control arm so I’m just going to lift this bad boy and throw some 35s or 37s on it. I love this truck and you see these things everywhere but you never see this body style really custom. so y’all pray for this adventure I’m about to endure with freshening up my tundra. It’s going to be a journey I can tell lol
Nathan.
Thank you so much for this video.
It has ALL the info I was looking for.
Man what good info I got from this vid! I feel very confident that I can do 35s when I get the tundra. 👍🏾👍🏾
I run Toyo ATIII 35/12.50/R17 on Method 701's (zero off-set) with a BMC no rubbing
Thanks for dropping in additional build-outs... this is helpful
What suspension setup? I am thinking of going with OME 2.5" 614 and was wondering if this would suffice. Same methods but with the ko2
Simple lift, bodymount chop, and upper control arms. Done, no rubbing
2.5 ome nitrocharger lift on mine, +25 offset, duratracs. had to trim skid plate. it all checks out
Thanks for confirming... I can only test on so many setups... nice to get outside confirmation.
@@OutdoorAuto one thing. It rubs at full lockout below 20 psi on body mount. Not much though.
Awesome video. So just to confirm, I do not need upgraded UCAs for a 3” leveling kit?
Correct… I tested the stock UCAs for a year with a 3 inch lift, no issues… even on some extreme Moab terrain
Dude, what an underated video with GREAT information! I am actually in the process of installing a 3.5" RC lift and have BFG KO2 35x12.50 18's and 18x9 +1 wheels waiting for install as well. I will update you all on confirming exactly what Nathan says. Thanks for the info. Definitely add to the confidence in reassuring me about the setup I had decided on. Any other suggestions of what to expect with this setup please suggest away! :) (2017 Tundra)
I really want to get that RC 3.5 lift how did it go?
You can get by with 3" front/rear leveling kit
Can you get 35's on the OEM TRD 18" wheels?
With 35 x 12.5 inch tires and a 3 inch lift. And a +7 offset i still ended up rubbing on body mount. I thinks its the tires i chose. But i did the body mount chop at the end and all is well. ( i think if your doing the same, and picked a less aggressive tire you would not rub. I ran Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T LT315/70R17 for anyone else doing this. Thanks agian Nate!
Yeah.. the Baja Boss are very wide... I measured the 12.50's and they actually measure 13.5.... they are the oposite of BFG they actually measure large.
Loved all the details man thank you. I'm going to 35's now probably 20 inch rims 20 offset but im scared about the backspacing which I dont really know my starting point. its a 2020 trd pro. thanks again.
@outdoorAuto - So after a good year of use I found that I do have a bit of rubbing on the front inside when at full turn. I have 34.5" BFG (12.5), a 3" Icon life, Icon UCAs, an aftermarket bumper, and Method 701 Trail Series, with a 0" offset. The 0" offset means my tires stick out a bit more than my liking. I end up getting tons of mud and junk covering my truck. I also get that little bit of rub. I'd prefer to have the tires sucked inside a bit more. I am wondering if I could switch to the Method 703s, which have a +35" offset? Would that cause rubbing with the 34.5" BFGs (12.5)? I could even get a slightly narrower tire if needed.
Great in-depth analysis Nathan!
Love the honest input you provide here on your channel - Super helpful and inciteful!
I'm a Toyota/Lexus guy myself waiting to upgrade my 2nd Gen Tacoma to a Tundra but waiting for the new platform unvail to decide between generations.
Just saw the new Raptor reveal and wonder how it stacks up to your 37" Tundra - any thoughts on a possible comparison video in the future?
Dude, love your channel. Very informative and I’m learning a lot. Keep up the great work!
Thanks. Glad it is helpful. Tell your friends.
What suspension did you go with on your Tundra that gained you a 3" lift? Great video btw.
Excellent video with LOTS of great information. Thanks!
Cheers excellent video and very instructive. Just what I needed because tomorrow I install and wheels RRW 17" AND TIRES BF GOODRICH 35. But I didn't quite understand how you gain that extra inch by moving the bumper. I'm sorry my English is not very good. Do you have any video applying that technique?
Are you coming back? I keep coming back checking to see if there’s a new video :(
I have the same question!
Very informative video, one of the most video I watched. Really love the content, keep up the work man your channel is going to grow!
Thanks for watching 🙏
I have 35 BFGs on Fuels with a -12 offset and I still have some rub after doing a BMC, im going to get something with close to zero offset that is as light as possible. I also have a 35 inch spare in the stock location and just had a light bulb moment since its on the stock wheel its probably absolutely worthless lol. Could you verify that for me please? In which case i need to get 5 wheels, I mean rims haha. Thx
This is such a great video and super helpful. All the info you need in one place. Thanks for the quality job Nathan. Keep it up
Thanks 🙏... The goal was to try and bring all the data together... I doubt I ever do it perfect... but I will keep trying.
Thank You! Great info broken down perfectly!!
Appreciate the feedback... I am working on a bunch of new informative overland videos right now... should se them coming out over the next couple weeks.
phenomenal information! Thanks for the effort
Thanks for making this video. It’s exactly what I was looking for.
Glad it was helpful!
@minute 13:33 this is what I was looking for . . . I’m definitely staying with 33’s . . .
Man thanks for the good info, buying a tundra 2011, wanting 35s, it seems most kits come with rear shocks.
best video on this topic ive found. well done, well explained even for a novice
Awesome, glad it was helpful.
I just bought a 2019 limited 4x4 no Trd package and looking to do some light off-roading on gravel maybe some light mud. Do I need to get a lift or suspension kit to get 34.5 inch tires on my 20inch Toyota rims. And will I get any rub going to a KO2?
A 35 inch KO2 measures 34.5 inches… so fitting it is the exact scenario in this video… you need to do everything in the video to not have rub.
@@OutdoorAuto oh damn. I thought it would fit without having to do any other mods.
Great video, quick question I have a 2018 tundra and I want to fit 35x12.5 with -44 offset with out doing mayor modifications a the truck, what kit do I need and what chopping do I need to do ? Thank you
IF you go -44 they will rub when you turn... you will definitely have to do a BMC. I have never tested tires that far out so I don't know how High you need to go to clear the fenders on turns either... but that could be an issue.... that just leaves a lot of tire where there wasn't meant to be tire.... so they wont tuck right either...
I have 2 inches fender flares installed,
How much negative offset do I need to be even with the fender flares?
And are you saying that I can fit 20x10x35 with out a lift kit? Thank you
So my recipe for my 2008 Tundra should work fine?
-2.5" OME suspension lift
-17x9 +0 Wheels
-35x12.50R17 Tires
-Simple cutting, moving and banging
-Stock UCAs
Sounds pretty good to me… if you go with any of the 35’s that are really 34.5 like BFGs and some others… you should be really good.
@@OutdoorAuto thanks! I picked up some used Nitto Ridge Grapplers for cheap to see how I like them. Very helpful video btw
I have a 17 limited 4x4 with a 3/2 lift and 2” wheel spacers on 20” factory rims. Don’t care about wider much just looking to go taller. What would my max be, was considering 34.6
So a 2012 Tundra with a leveling kit. I just bought it. It has the stock rims with 295/70r18. Think I can get away with a +18 offset rim?
This video helped a lot in my tundra build a couple years ago. So thanks again. I just asked about what cv axles you use on your long travel tundra? (With a quick response) i was wondering if you run different front axles on this tundra on 35s as well? Is so what brand? Thanks again Nate!
I stuck with the stock CV's on the gray Tundra. For the White Tundra I am running chromoly Axle shafts made by Camburg - Then I bought Toyota full CV's and have to rebuild them with the longer axles... so the total CV is a mix of Toyota OEM and Camburg shafts.
Stock 21 TRD Pro Tundra, has the 18" wheels, What's the absolute minuum I have to do to make BFG 35's fit and not rub?
Hey Nathan. Just wondering if you would by chance know what would be best for my not lifted 2013 tundra? Wheel size and offset spacing?
Great information, took me si much time to figure this out
Me too 😳...
Nathan I was told and I don't think you touched on it, or I mist it, You need steel rims for overlanding, I got Fuel Aluminum wheels so I need to change wheels right, Also I put after market bump stops on front and rear Brien, So going from your video my 2020 Toyota Tundra TRD
Sport I can go BFG TKo2 35" because they are actually only 34.5" now I need a body fender chop or just reposition front plastic wall with new screws right no need for 2" lift right. Also how do you determine how far you can go off road and still make it back to the gas station
with the Tundra 38 gallon tank being nearly full when going off road, I was thinking 5 MPG in low range I was thinking 50 miles to be safe
then head back to the HWY, what's your rule of thumb. ?
Noobie here. Glad I found your channel. It's very educational. My question is, If dropping from 18" to 17" wheels, do you have to recalibrate the speedometer?
Wheel size isn’t what messes with the speedometer- it is the overall size of the tire and wheels combined… so if you go from stock to 35’s for example you speedometer ends up a couple MPH off
Put a 3.5" RC lift with 35x12.5 nitto ridge grapplers no offset on my 2014 tundra and it rubs bad on the body mount
Really awsome and very informative video!!! Can you please put a list of your tundra with the 35s build???? It will help my build out!
This Video has the breakdown and in the description it has names and links for all the gear. ua-cam.com/video/ZtJ56qvCflU/v-deo.html
I just started watching your videos. I'm enjoying them. Wondering if I should go all in and do a binge session. Which State are you from?
I am based out of Idaho... but we get around quite a bit in the West.
Thanks for your vids. You explain things well.
Have you always just used Toyota's as your platform for anything offroad-related?
Have you modified any Jeeps, Fords, Chevy's, etc in the past?
Thanks
Great video. Where did you get those rear vintage stripes? Can't find that size anywhere.
it is the Largest size from TacoVinyl.com
@@OutdoorAuto Awesome, thank you!
This is top grade info. Thanks man.
Thanks for watching 🙏
Question Nathan: I have a 2018 Tundra Platinum Crewmax 4x4. I want to get a set of Method 314 17x8.5 0 offset with 4.75 backspacing. Truck is stock height. Do you think I could run a 285/70-17 tire on the methods with no rubbing. Truck came with 275/55-20's. Saving up for 3/1 lift. Thanks and happy Holidays
What's the mpg after I'm running 33x12.50x20 0offset in a 17 5.7 and only get 11.8 mpg at least that what it says on the dash. I'm thinking about switching my set up to your specs but I'm scared to lose more mpg . I tow with my truck and do long trips
I'm looking at Method's MR703 bead grip 17" wheel in +35 offset and pairing it with a 35x12.50. Do you think it will clear the UCA? On a 2.5" lift currently with spc uca
I'm looking to do something similar but with the method 701 17x8.5x0 and 35x12.5 ko2. Thinking about going with the OME 612 lift in the front. In the rear OME shocks with toytec addaleaf. Does this look good? Would I need UCA? Thanks
I have heard great things about the bead grip at low PSI in Sand.... but as for as that offset... my guess is you run into some issues... to clear 35x12.5s you really want to be closer to a 0 offset....
IF you are talking about a tundra and you are staying under 2.5" of lift... you can use the sock UCA's You will lose a little down travel but not much.... obviously it is better with UCA's like an adjustable SPC... but it will work and it wont cause dmg. I ran the stock UCA's on one of my Tundras with a 2.5" lift and 35's for a year with no issues.
I’ve been waiting on fuel wheels for my tundra for 6 months because they are still on back order. I’m going with a 17x9 +1 offset. There is still no eta on the wheels but they just informed me I could get the same wheels with a -12 offset by the end of this month. I’m not sure if that will be a problem with only having a 3-2 leveling kit running 35s please help!!
Great advice, explained great. I’m looking at 285/60r20 on factory stock rims. Do I need to do a leveling on lift kit? Toyo Open Country ATlll
Thanks
Great video. Getting my 2021 Crewmax TRD OR.
Great video!! Thanks for sharing. I am saving for reference as I continue to upgrade my 2nd Gen Tundy!!
I have a 4 inch lift on my tundra right now, with 33inch tires on 20 inch rims. I shouldn’t have to do anything other than buy new tires, correct?
Hello, thanks for the great vids! . I have a 2013 tundra with 35s. My VSC activates in corners and freeway on-ramps. The computer basically thinks the truck is sliding and applies ABS. Have you had any ABS/VSC issues with your Tundras? If so, do you have any tips or tricks to adjust it to 35s. Appreciate it.
Turn off VSC. Problem solved.
If i use stock rims( 2017, TRD , +60MM) w/ 295/70/R18, will they fit with a 1.25" wheel spacers??? Tires are 34.3" x 11.6".
You’re a champion!
I just bought a Tundra Crewmax with 35s. Paid $2900. Someone else did the mods. They paid $7000 just for the lift, suspension, shocks, tires and wheels alone. I'd be less than half that for the entire truck!
Great VIdeo and perfect explanation... I've had the chance to see both trucks in person, they are truly stunning. I've got Long Travel envy 😆
Super informative video! But offset is completely dependent on rim width as well. What rim width are you referencing when you suggest rims size and offset?
Dang... I just rewatched the whole video because I was sure I mentioned that I was talking about 17x9 or 18x9 ... I just noticed that I didn't ad the 2nd part to the rim sizes. I will Pin a note to the top and mention the sizes we were using for testing. Good catch.
Nathan Mueller, Your AWESOME YOU ARE THE OVERLANDER 4X4 GURU, you make all these technical stuff easier for the Novice like me, to not look like a Dumb Ass at the local 4WD Shop to be taken advantage by.
Can i fit 35s on stock rims without lift if i use 2" inches wheels spacers?
Or 2" 1/2 would works better?
In your opinion, do you think it’s necessary to
re-gear the tundra if you put 35’s on?
I don’t think it is required with 35’s… I have run Tundras both ways for multiple years. If you go to 37’s you need to do gears for sure.
Great video! Question, do you think i can run a true 35x12.50r18 on a 18x9 +25 offset 2021 trd pro stock fox suspension? Thanks
Discovered your channel from watching Chase Christopher's video on
purchasing new tires for Subarus. Subscribed!! Can you please suggest what's a good Portable Air Compressor? Thanks!
Is there a way to recalibrate the speedo for 35s?
Will 35/65/R18 fit in 3 inch level Toyota tundra 2013 TRD?
I have a 2013 Tundra. Does this apply to 2nd gen?
@nathanmueller do you have lockers on your rigs?
No lockers on the Cement Tundra. I have a Auburn Pro LSD on the White truck in the rear.