Who makes the best baitcaster part 1 - Shimano Antares, Daiwa Steez SV TWS, Abu Revo MGXTreme 2

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  • @day1fishing603
    @day1fishing603 5 років тому

    Abu Garcia is my go to reel...all my shimanos...13 fishing...diawa... have all givin me costly issues ...my abu Garcia reels have standed the test of time..great video and thanks for sharing

  • @tphvictims5101
    @tphvictims5101 5 років тому

    I’ve found Z man elas tec senkos I can barely barely cast those, the “elastic” sucks ALL the energy out of my casts. I try hard to use only super lines. And I’ve been using them since the early days of “in fisherman “. I was just out Xmas day over here in the zone of NO FISH casting at the baseball field a couple of blocks away. I wish I could at least get to Manasquan res. I’ve fished it years ago and like it for the number of species you can catch throughout the entire year. I’ve fished upstate did well with the steelheads and browns. The Hook, the Valley, and I was at the valley when it first opened in the 60s, spruce run, most of the better and best type areas. Today is December 26 2018 at 12:40 am. I’m 65.

    • @bmitchsneakers
      @bmitchsneakers 3 роки тому

      Dog you have very big user error problems. Are you using a bait caster for ned rigs?

  • @kens.8124
    @kens.8124 2 роки тому

    Love your reviews. I searched your Chanel but was unable to find a review on antares monster drive?

  • @farizfansuri495
    @farizfansuri495 7 років тому

    hi,thank you for very informative information.Need your advice and opinion.What is the best BC for you at the moment?In term of cranking power and average casting distance.Im fishing for snakehead.Tranx,steez,metanium mgl,abu mgx2,etc.Main workhouse bc.which one you prefer?Thanks.

    • @TackleAdvisors
      @TackleAdvisors  7 років тому

      My favorite reel that I own for heavier applications. Is the 200 sized Calcutta Te DC. with carbontex drag washers.
      goo.gl/cdL7bq

  • @felgercarb3803
    @felgercarb3803 4 роки тому

    Hi. Do you think that this combo will work: ROD: Westin W8 Powerstrike-T8 240cm MH 30-80g / REEL: Daiwa Steez CT SV TW 700SH / BRAID: Berkley Whiplash 8 in 0,08mm or 0,10mm. Lure weight will be from 10g up to 80g

    • @TackleAdvisors
      @TackleAdvisors  4 роки тому

      I wouldn't be using that reel as a daily driver for that heavy of a payload. It's a borderline finesse reel that can go up a tick in power.

    • @felgercarb3803
      @felgercarb3803 4 роки тому

      Tackle Advisors Hi. Thanks for the advice. How about if I use the Daiwa Zillion SV TW and only use lets say from 5g to 40g on the same rod.

  • @TC_Fishing
    @TC_Fishing 7 років тому

    Love your videos. Very informative! Cant' wait for part 2.

    • @TackleAdvisors
      @TackleAdvisors  7 років тому +1

      Thanks man...like most of these simultaneous tear downs...I shoot it a few times...and don't like the results...so 20 hours later I just say fug it and pick one.....haven't gotten to that point yet.. Hoping to pick, cut, and render it by tomorrow night.

    • @TackleAdvisors
      @TackleAdvisors  7 років тому

      Part two will be up tomorrow at noon eastern time. Started rendering it now.
      Should be done in a few hours!

    • @TC_Fishing
      @TC_Fishing 7 років тому

      👌Can't wait

  • @guyname9646
    @guyname9646 7 років тому +1

    What are your thoughts on the palming of each of these reels. Like what reel do you feel palms the best?

    • @TackleAdvisors
      @TackleAdvisors  7 років тому +1

      MGX being tiny is a blast to fish but i find that it a bit too small for good purchase for one handed casting. (i don't have gorilla hands either) THe antares is huge feels like palming a 300 curado...not quite but it's large. The steez and original mgx are in my opinion two of the most comfortable reels i've ever fished. I also feel the metanium dc feels a bit tall, but love the core 50.

  • @stasysba1
    @stasysba1 6 років тому +1

    Today bought older little used Shimano Antares RH 222 and was very amazed how bad and cheap its made, top and front decorated chromated plates weights around 22gr. side plate is heavy like tank, everything looks cheaply made, side handle bearing near clutch bearing sits too loose. Handle bolt construction very funny too and smaller diameter than shaft. clutch disc small. Taking real apart first time another fun, complicated. Spool with long shaft and original price around 500$? simple speechless to see so cheaply made reel. After 2018 fishing show in Yokohama Japan I was surprised where Shimano and other producers going, but Antares made me speechless, I see this new Antares looks similar just centrifugal braking different design and price?? crazy. When I compare with my older Ryobi Varius 300F from 1998 today Shimano its make me lough. Thank you for Video

    • @krustysurfer
      @krustysurfer 3 роки тому

      Thank you for enlightening info

    • @stasysba1
      @stasysba1 3 роки тому +1

      @@krustysurfer After some time I can be not so harsh on this reel, its not because I think reel metamorphosis to better quality reel , but in todays made reels quality world is still made strongly and with good quality bearings, but again reel is not very high quality reel. complicated

    • @krustysurfer
      @krustysurfer 3 роки тому

      @@stasysba1 Thanks, yeah lots of plastic parts for a lot of money, almost better to go with a inexpensive SLX

    • @stasysba1
      @stasysba1 3 роки тому +1

      @@krustysurfer I dont think so, I would anyway go 222 compare to SLX

    • @krustysurfer
      @krustysurfer 3 роки тому

      @@stasysba1 222? Forgive me I am brand knew to all of this baitcasting madness🤪

  • @evelynday6219
    @evelynday6219 6 років тому

    Love your work brother, do you know whether the steez tw sv spool will fit the Steez A tw?

  • @randallray9679
    @randallray9679 4 роки тому

    Do you have a breakdown on the Diawa CLTW200 coastal TWS reel?

  • @jamesbayfishing9583
    @jamesbayfishing9583 7 років тому

    super performing custom concoction oil that sounds like something I need lol. what's this concoction if you don't mind telling me. another awesome video as well.

    • @TackleAdvisors
      @TackleAdvisors  7 років тому

      Hey man! Good to see ya! Its not something I can share in case I plan on marketing it. And due to one of the components I don't know it's yet if it plays well with all plastics "YET"
      But it's fast and stays put much longer than say an Alchemy oil or yellow or red rocket fuel.

  • @michelsday3642
    @michelsday3642 7 років тому

    I just subscribed to your channel and I was wanting your opinion on the p fluger bait caster from 1 to 10 it has 7 bearing and a 6:4:1 gear ratio my question is what are they known for what type of fishing?

    • @TackleAdvisors
      @TackleAdvisors  7 років тому

      Thanks Tyler, I haven't fished or even held the new models. THe previous gen reels weren't bad at all. If you grab it on sale I'm sure it would be a great value. WIsh I had more for ya. But I spent more time on their spinners than baitcasters in recent years. Unfortunately with pflueger. They seem to change who makes their reels quite often. So there is a large difference every few years in appearance and performance.

  • @MillerMurdaughFishing
    @MillerMurdaughFishing 7 років тому +1

    Its just a solid feel, I think that's what you meant to say n the Antares, that aluminum makes a difference. its just solid.

    • @TackleAdvisors
      @TackleAdvisors  7 років тому

      Not necesarily...The bulk and really thick sideplates with the softer brass main and pinion. Combined with the heavy handle. Really dampen or dull any feel of what is going on in the reel. (being as precision as a rolex helps too)
      A Daiwa exist or steez spinner is solid yet plastic. So is the ci4plus. Aero technium mg and Even my original stradic mg and stella fi. Including the metanium dc. But this reel kind of reminds me of the daiwa Z2020. IT feels like when you loosen the drag all the way. Put your thumb on the spool and then turn the handle. It feels like there is nothing there. Which is an incredible feeling when retrieving a lure. But amazingly the steez is remarkable close in that respect (although it didn't start out that way)

    • @MillerMurdaughFishing
      @MillerMurdaughFishing 7 років тому

      Tackle Advisors that's suprised me that you think of it like that I felt one and was blown away with how solid it felt

  • @andeeaye
    @andeeaye 6 років тому

    How does the Steez A fit in? I just purchased one and it's the best reel I've had in my hand so far.

    • @m4a1JAY
      @m4a1JAY 6 років тому +1

      Andy A Steez A TW is the same as SV but larger handle and deeper spool. Steez is the Ferrari of baitcasters

    • @evelynday6219
      @evelynday6219 6 років тому +1

      Steez A is a different beast, high capacity spool, magforce z cast control. The main diff is it's aluminium alloy frame and drive side plate for use in inshore saltwater environs, a saltwater safe Steez quality reel, very nice.

  • @jokrazy2002
    @jokrazy2002 7 років тому

    Do you have a tear down on Steez SV 103XS 8:1:1

  • @topteam22
    @topteam22 4 роки тому

    Why doesn’t Shimano have their spoil tension knob with clicks. I think a lot of people like that option and I do as well. What’s their take on that ?!

    • @TackleAdvisors
      @TackleAdvisors  4 роки тому

      To each their own I guess? Clicky drag is important to me.. But spool tension... Not at all.. There really isn't a need to use it anyway (outside basic centrifugal brakes) I wish they got rid of it altogether. Clicky or not.. Shimano spool tensioners stay put very well.... Additionally it's a feel thing and the gap between clicks can result in large changes. Clicky seems cool.. I used to want it then shortly realized I never touched it

  • @weouchhere9338
    @weouchhere9338 6 років тому +1

    On the daiwa steez sv tw have you ever heard anyone saying there braid to leader connection getting stuck in the t wing system ?

    • @TackleAdvisors
      @TackleAdvisors  6 років тому +1

      I never have. Only way would be if they don't know how to tie a line to line join knot

    • @weouchhere9338
      @weouchhere9338 6 років тому

      Tackle Advisors that’s what I figured, awesome that’s great news. Thank you!

    • @TackleAdvisors
      @TackleAdvisors  6 років тому +1

      @@weouchhere9338 I have 2 as daily drivers and never once had an issue. Pr knots FG knots Alberto knots. Never an issue

    • @weouchhere9338
      @weouchhere9338 6 років тому

      Tackle Advisors sweet good to know... I currently use a bloodknot for connection !

    • @weouchhere9338
      @weouchhere9338 6 років тому

      Tackle Advisors I heard these steez reels are unbelievable !

  • @TAFilms
    @TAFilms 7 років тому +1

    Awesome video! Helped a ton!!!

    • @TackleAdvisors
      @TackleAdvisors  7 років тому

      The full review will be up at noon eastern tomorrow!

    • @TAFilms
      @TAFilms 7 років тому

      I subscribed so I'll see it right away!! I'm gonna purchase an Antares next week and probably a MGXtreme in a couple months. I'd like a steez but the new t wing system sometimes doesn't work correctly and makes the line come up for me. Have you had this issue?

  • @Cjmm007
    @Cjmm007 2 роки тому

    Where’d you go man???

  • @al.trzy_blu.e
    @al.trzy_blu.e 7 років тому +1

    i believe the micro-module gear system is better utilized in their upper end of spinning reels... there is quite a difference in the spinning world of things in my personal opinion, especially under load, it seems to maintain that solid cranking power and rigidity and smoothness... its not like a night and day difference, but it is noticeable to me... if its worth almost $200 more in cost im still debating lol

    • @TackleAdvisors
      @TackleAdvisors  7 років тому +1

      Micro module in baitcasters while it looks cool in the "pretty precision" kind of way. doesn't transfer to "smoover" cranking that I can tell. Even under load. As the teeth roll in and out of one another. Precise support of the pinion and main gear and a precise mesh are far more important. Look at the main gear of the vanstall reels. That i guess could be considered micro module...Yet it feels like a coffee grinder. :)
      I do notice when I spin my stellas they have a higher pitch sound due to the smaller teeth than say a stradic. But Stradics when new crank like butter even under load as well. I also returned 2 stella Fi back to back that were geary. You could feel the side plate was not alligned properly. So it's a tough call at least to me still to say it makes a reel "smoother"
      Especially when it's found in the top tier spinners that are outrageously smooth to begin with..(i hate saying smooth by the way...pretty much all reels are friggin smooth :) )
      Tight lines bud!

    • @al.trzy_blu.e
      @al.trzy_blu.e 7 років тому

      Tackle Advisors LoL perfectly stated in every way, sometimes, i admit, i succumb to nifty catch phrases and wording, oh hell, im a sucker! lets just be honest lol... I am more into tuning middle of the field reels to make them perform high end, its simply fun :) and relatively easy to do... Japan ohhhh Japan, how i love thy fine tuning parts...

    • @al.trzy_blu.e
      @al.trzy_blu.e 7 років тому

      for me no reel can beat my tuned up Cardiff ci4+ spinners... ill put them up against a Stella anyday...

    • @TackleAdvisors
      @TackleAdvisors  7 років тому +1

      HAAA!!! I know damn well how stupid Hagane and Micro module is...But I got the stella FI because of the MICRO and metanium DC's because of it too....Know you're (me) a sucker....makes it ok...
      I actually literally got done mirror polishing the Main, Pinion and spool shaft on the antares...While waiting for the the main part of this review to render.....8 hours to friggin render the damn thing on a friggin super computer...WTF

    • @TackleAdvisors
      @TackleAdvisors  7 років тому

      They're perty suckers....Never seen one in person though. The new exsence and Tatula's look bad ass...Gonna try to get a tat and ballistic early :)

  • @zechcole9455
    @zechcole9455 7 років тому

    Can you do a tear down on the Shimano 17 Grappler it's a jdm reel?

    • @TackleAdvisors
      @TackleAdvisors  7 років тому +1

      I saw the 300. It's essentially a down graded version of the new tranx. Until I sell off what I have and what I just ordered. That's going to have to wait. Of course I want to. But I have a ton on my plate as is.

    • @TackleAdvisors
      @TackleAdvisors  7 років тому

      What I found funny about the reel.....It uses the same gear tooth pattern as the current tranx...Yet the tranx doesn't call it micro module...and the grappler does...pretty weird if you ask me. :)

  • @smoovefishing
    @smoovefishing 7 років тому +1

    I can throw further with my Metanium MGL than I can with my Antares, I actually I like it completely better all around

    • @TackleAdvisors
      @TackleAdvisors  7 років тому +1

      I'd believe it. Light spool and less mass in the braking system. DOes the mgl incorporate the spring on spool like the alderbaran to reduce the side to side vibration?

    • @smoovefishing
      @smoovefishing 7 років тому

      Tackle Advisors yes it think they call it silent tune, I think DC reals mean uneducated thumb lol

  • @danielbeavers8701
    @danielbeavers8701 5 років тому

    So is it true the more you spend the cheaper the materials. It looks like there all plastic

  • @smoovefishing
    @smoovefishing 7 років тому +1

    And I also don't consider Antares is a small reel I consider it a medium size reel not spool size but reel size! That's why I only have one and have 8 Metanium MGL

    • @TackleAdvisors
      @TackleAdvisors  7 років тому

      As far as physical size is concerned...I think the current Met dc is a fairly large reel by current standards. With the steez being even smaller and the old MGX being tiny...then the new mgx's came out and they give give a new meaning to tiny. The Antares even though the frame width is about the same as the MGXTREME2 dwarfs it overall. Pretty eye opening. I don't like calling the antares a novelty or status reel because it's precise like a rolex...but compared to everything else out there...it doesn't make much sense. And the mgl at least to me. Makes more sense overall.

    • @smoovefishing
      @smoovefishing 7 років тому

      Tackle Advisors yes I don't use DC reels at all! I love the size of the MGL Antares I only use for huge swim baits other than that is just to big! Don't like it at all for normal fishing, it does handles huds very well, that's why I only have one!

  • @bmitchsneakers
    @bmitchsneakers 3 роки тому

    I’m sorry, I just can’t stand how light the abus have gotten. Feels so cheap and fishes completely different. Shimano and Daiwa have generally kept the weight at a solid feeling, light weight. Not too light and not too heavy IMO. The Alderbaran felt too light as well and I think that’s why sales sucks for that and Pure Fishing has been bought by Rubbermaid the last I heard so how can that improve things with Abu, Penn, and Mitchell?

  • @ddm62571
    @ddm62571 7 років тому

    Ok did I hear that right? At 9:24 You said the mgxtreme is limited to under 6lbs of drag? Because I know thats not right. It has 12lbs of drag.

    • @TackleAdvisors
      @TackleAdvisors  7 років тому +2

      Not only did i say that. I tested it with a full spool, empty spool, drag stack using carbontex and smoothie washers and the drag stack from the old mgx. Pre and post polish. On a igfa certified scale I couldn't get it to go past 7lbs empty spool. On FULL lock down. 4 others said the same thing

    • @TackleAdvisors
      @TackleAdvisors  7 років тому

      I even removed the bellville washers and used flat washers...no increase

    • @ddm62571
      @ddm62571 7 років тому

      Ouch! Wonder why Abu claims it has a 12lbs drag then? I like Abu Garcia but I don't like it when a company makes false claims about their products.

    • @TackleAdvisors
      @TackleAdvisors  7 років тому

      I found it pretty shocking...and pretty limiting. the old standard mgx got to the max of the current mgxtreme2 quicker and without having to wrench the drag star to the point of damage. I generally don't care much about drag pressure...But 5lbs of drag is pretty limiting. And I don't want to have to torque down that drag every time I want ot throw a jig or spinnerbait and still end up way short.

    • @alanmycheong
      @alanmycheong 6 років тому

      www.theasianpublisher.com/magazine/theasianangler/issues/2016/12-dec/theasianangler-issue-2016-12-dec-050.pdf

  • @patm232010
    @patm232010 7 років тому +4

    I feel like the Metanium or Aldebaran would be more comparable to the Steez and MGX. The Antares is a horse and a great reel but it's very hard to compare to reels that weigh almost half as much. The other two are a little more updated and recent as well

    • @TackleAdvisors
      @TackleAdvisors  7 років тому +1

      Yes and no. The antares is kind of an odd ball of a reel. Almost a novelty.
      It doesn't need to be 3 ounces more. It really doesn't. Especially at that price. It doesn't need to be as large. The sideplates don't need to be nearly as thick. And the top cosmetic "plates" don't need to be as heavy. I could be wrong..but the sideplates might be thicker aluminum than even the shimano Torsa. Just not necessary in a fw bass reel. The 2/3'rs magnesium of the steez's frame is ideal (metanium)
      I generally compare reels by capacity. WHich puts the MGXtreme in the Antares class. And the steez down a bit. Yet the steez is closer to performance to the antares.
      It's tricky....But I figure take the big 3 out of 4 and compare their most expensive offerings. The next part of the review will go into real performance attributes and uses.

    • @patm232010
      @patm232010 7 років тому

      Tackle Advisors I guess it does match up capacity wise. It's just so bulky and heavy that I couldn't imagine using it for something under a 1/4 of an ounce. I use mine for moving baits and it works well. It's definitely due for an update though. They'll probably throw in an MGL spool and hopefully cut down on the weight with a magnesium frame

    • @TackleAdvisors
      @TackleAdvisors  7 років тому

      +PCM24 97 and that's part of the "novelty" feeling I have towards the reel. Magnesium carries a premium $ tag. And it's use is to reduce weight... Hence the headscratcher with the thickness of the side plates and cosmetic plates surrounding a magnesium frame. See where I'm coming from?

    • @patm232010
      @patm232010 7 років тому

      Tackle Advisors yeah and you'd think that Shimano's highest priced low profile baitcaster would use something a little more practical for their top of the line product

    • @TackleAdvisors
      @TackleAdvisors  7 років тому

      You ever see the insides? amazing how simplistic it is. I don't know why i expected so many more moving parts. Maybe it was all the nonsensical screws and extra cosmetic trim. But it is as simple as they come. No ball bearings for the levelwind either (not needed but expected) Reminds me of the 80s bantam reel when all the fancy shiny plates are removed.

  • @Kakirandukzz
    @Kakirandukzz 5 років тому

    I thought the daiwa steez is made of zaion🤔

  • @tommydenaro8959
    @tommydenaro8959 6 років тому

    you wasting my time by tell me you dont want to wast my time lol