10 minute Abu Garcia supertune for all around casting performance increases.
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2017
- 10 minute Abu Garcia supertune for all around casting performance increases.
Increase casting distance, consistency, and fluidity all while quieting the reel during the cast.
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Just did the procedure on a MGX and MGXtreme2 and have to warn you guys: In my MGXtreme2 (LH, very recently purchased in Germany) the brake ring was glued to its plastic holder (three drops, one under each of the "legs" of the plastic holder). You have to be extremely careful to not break the holder! Took me about as long to get them separated as you for the whole procedure. :D
Good to know!! Thanks!!
I wish there was a way to go back to the video and edit that in as a "warning"
Hi Dieter, how did you get them apart? i sort of stopped trying when it needed quite some force :o
MGX was easy though, just as described in the video
Tackle Advisors do u need to completely remove the parts or can u go in and polish the ring while taping off the plastic holder
I don't even own an Abu and just watched this entire video. You've taught me more than any fishing channel ever has.
I don't even own a baitcaster..
At first I didn't like your videos, then as I watched more I really started to see your views and liked more and more, I appreciate the vids keep up the good work, btw you helped me choose a great reel thanks !
Im with you on that... Lol early on I felt like every vid I put out I was arguing with an invisible person in the room. Now I just have fun! It's a growing /and learning thing I guess.
Great video thanks i just got my first Abu for last Christmas and it's awesome i don't know how to make the most out of the braking system im trying to figure out how to do the dials just right which I have never done before. ..
Very logical and good idea, will look my reels. Just curious how thick braking plate are when new reels weight less and less and how easy to bent them when taking off? was able to buy very small Abu and didn't , because everything was made not to last and to fragile. Thanks
How often would suggest purging and lubing bearings? Also do you have any videos on how you do that?
Pretty cool. We dont really use these types of abus over here in the uk, at least I never see any of them. Good work!
Figured I'd give it a shot on a BlackMax that I don't really use. It has the 5 little pucks type brake tabs as opposed to the 360 degree plate. Needless to say they didn't polish evenly as you'd expect. But they did polish to the point of at least being closer to 'even' with each other. Couldn't hurt.
how do you super tune a curado 200HG ?
Do u change up the ball bearings and if so which do u use and y
Love these videos!! Your still the man!
Thanks brotha!!
Domhoff
Dale
what?
The contact points look polished from proper wear, sort of like a piston in a cylinder wears into a lapped state.
I just came back to throw a thumbs up that I forgot. Just learned this wed stuff.
I’ve also got my Curado DC on the way.
Is there a way to do this to the blackmax 3?
Cool info
Can I supertune the 2018 Revo Beast?
Could you polish all the metal parts?
That looks awesome!!!
I'm giving her the works!!! :) Thank you again!! I wished you fished it prior to sending it out....so you can appreciate the improvements :)
I wanted to ship her back last week. But I can't get a zero wind day to get some casting numbers post op! I think tomorrow may be the least windy day in the past 4 weeks! Fingers crossed!
Tackle Advisors of course I am glad you are fun with it. With all the rain in California it was dang near impossible to go fishing with the rivers and lake running so high.
I am sure I will appreciate the improvements. Take your time man. I will have plenty of time to use it when you are done.
The polishing is awesome and looks like something most people can try and replicate.
Still love the channel!
Awesome! Thanks for your patience. Everything local to me is running high...but it's the fishy kind of high water. That's the beauty of this little trick. It's very simple. It affords a hair of a distance increase....but really quiets down the cast. While offering a bit more cast to cast consistency. I first did it 5 years ago when I messed up my mgx...got a replacement disc...and did a little experiment. So i know its long term benefits.
Any way to do this to magforce z brakes?
Are the lower end revised worth doing something like this.i have revised ranging from the same up to the premier
Hey Daren...."revised" meaning hosed by autocorrect and meant reels? If the reel uses the ivcb4 brake. Then yes.
Please see Dieter's pinned comment about the glued in brake plate...None were glued on the extrememe 2 and my previous gen mgx reels.
Would this benefit my black max and silver max? They are both fairly new.
The brakes on the Blk Max are different. I would say the SLVR Max is the same.
Another question - lol... Lews brake disc appears to be brass. The trizac seemed to give it lots of small scratches and I couldn't get the mirror polish. Should I get a finer grit or use a different method? Thanks for the great vids!
Which trizact are you using. I use it on brass and have even used it on precious metals without scratches
@@TackleAdvisors I used your link...trizact 5000. Lots of fine scratches, I buffed some out with the fabulustre and polish brush but still not perfect. I did use the trizact on some drag washers with success.
Great job! What spool is that in the MGX?
+dieter domhoff thanks alot man! That's the Avail bfs spool with hybrid ceramic abec 7 bearings
Would the methods used from your other tuning video work for polishing the brake as well? (dremel with fabulustre)
Sure but just watch the metal mandrel never touches it as a small scratch can have a big impact on performance
@@TackleAdvisors Gotcha thanks...didnt think of that.
Can you do this to my abu and do you have cleaning services
Sure. From what i've been told. Places that do this. Charge 90$. Since I do it as a hobby. I think i've settled on 75. Depending on shipping. If you want me to do it. Contact me at TackleAdvisorsInitiative@gmail.com
Are there similar techniques that can be used on a pinning reel to make it more tuned?
I polished the gear teeth on a stella and I now have a stella with polished gear teach that really isn't any different than it was before :) I'm doing some experimenting with casting distance and a spool mod to see if that works. Not much really needed for spinners. Good quality reels get a bit smoother after some use. The grease I use which i'm not giving out the exact formulation just yet seems to make a noticeable difference.
@@TackleAdvisors thanks for the reply... Really love your videos. I've learned a lot.
Wouldn't a 3000 grit be as good? Or should i get a 5k grit?
And would this work on polishing drag washers?
crap...don't know how i missed this. I'd go upto the 5k.....just because why not :) Absolutely you can do this on the drag surfaces. Just make sure they aren't anodized or coated
I bought the 3000 grit and its not good enough if you want a mirror surface :(
Yeah, sorry about that. I use both on knives and the 3k will make it bright. But not like the 5k
Hi. Is there any option to tune for example a shimano slx dc to have more break force ? It’s somehow too few or something is wrong. It’s just a few clicks to close the break down completely and that’s very hard to do so and the lighter settings are too many clicks. Do you have any idea how and if I can increase the break force or make the way longer from hard break setting until completely closed break ?
I never experienced that with the SLX DC...I use 2 as a general duty setting without an issue. 1 for slinging jigs inside 75 feet, where I want precision, and use my thumb. Not really sure. Mayber clean out the spool bearings, and apply 1 drop of thin oil (tsi 321) to ensure consistent spin rates
@@TackleAdvisors thanks for the help. Maybe I did something wrong when I installed the drag clicker for the brake. It’s a bit weird. Rest works fine just the brake is strange.
Why did you NOT clean the fingerprint grease off of the #2 break plate?????
*brake
If youre gonna shit on someones parade, at least know your shit
Have you ever worked on the EON reel brake system?
Was that the oddball abu reel. Nah seen it never played with it
@@TackleAdvisors It had a similar brake system as the ones you show here it didn't work well had to put a lite coating of tacky grease on the metal surface or it wouldn't slow the spool down. I don't like these flying arm brake systems, I prefer the typical centrifugal brake systems. It was an oddball reel I liked that the handle was inline with the spool, drag system wasn't smooth but ok for fresh water bass use.
Nice simple mod that anyone can do! Have you seen what extra distance you got? Did you have to turn up the brakes since the polish would lessen the friction?
I found that with the mod and this reel. And spooling up 8lb braid. It allowed better distance with lighter baits and smooth trouble free casting with baits down to 1/16th of an ounce on a rod rated 1/4 to 1.5 ounces (loL). I had planned to be out in the fields doing measurements using the 15lb j braid which is my benchmark line in the previous test. But out of the blue it downpoured all day. Tomorrow I'll be doing about 5 hours of measured tests.
ON my original mgx reels that I did this to years ago. I noticed a slight increase in max distance. But never officially measured it. But the braking consistency went way up. ANd it quieted down the braking noise.
great vids, sub my channel if you want because Im going to be doing some similiar things :) got some vids up and alot more in the works. Real world tackle experience FTW!
Hreat videos my friend. Do me a favor, can you do a review on the kastking assassin reels that everyone is crazy about. Of course I like the Price of the reels. Since im on a budget, the price is what caught my eye. However is the quality up to par? Would like to lknow what think.
I've been seeing that reel coming up quite a bit. I have a few pounds of walmart spinners I have to compare to the googan squad reel. I also have 10lbs of reels to service. Along with two fellow youtubers reels...one being a scorpion 70 which Im gonna compare to a tatula sv or something. I have some projects that I am behind on prior to commiting to those...but I will fit that one in.
Thanks alot, I appriciate your help.
Tackle Advisors I feel bad for anyone who buys something that's not daiwa or shimano I'm not one of those people that hate everything else but I've had no luck with abu or lews don't get why you would want one btw compare that scorpion to a tat ct type r or something with a smaller frame
@oliver cheng lol then who is the best?
Where can I buy the screwdrivers you use?
I think they are wiha ( brand name)screwdrivers.
Just curious to your background . My bet is Mechanical Engineering . Love watching your videos. Very informative .
I have the Revo Elite 7 JDM with the same brake but with 6 weights. It's a piece of shit. I really liked it at first for throwing light lures but using it for about 10 time and it fells like trash. Back to my Metanium MGL
Does it have to be that black sand paper? Or will sand paper work? Thanks!
the key is the grit. And how flat the surface is. You need to polish it so sand paper unless it's high enough grit would leave the surface worse off than you started
Tackle Advisors thanks man!
I suspect the scratches will cause issues when casting. I micro scratched my brake rail and now it cast like shit
I think you aren’t supposed to use a figure 8 pattern to make sure it’s going to be even.
would u clean my metanium mgl JDM?
I'm going to start offering some tuning services. And I plan on doing some live chats for people to join in so they can open their reels along with me.
If you want to have your reel worked on for 70$ plus shipping I'll do the basics. Plus I'll polish the main and pinion gears. I've found that it makes micro module gears feel as though they aren't even there. I've done this in the past...But just did my tranx 500 and met dc a little over a week ago...and WOW! is all I can say. Plus I use Krytox grease which is some really good stuff. About 40$ an ounce.
You can reach me directly at tackleadvisorsinitiative@gmail.com
my JDM met mgl feels very geary as if there is no lube in the gears. almost feels grindy in a sense. ive only had it a month
Hmmm as long as nothing is damaged or out of line. I should be able to make it better than new. Let me know.
ill consider it. shimano will service the reel for $40.
Basically glock 25¢ trigger job but for casting reels
This (centrifugal, mechanical brakes) is why magnetic brakes (eddy current, non-mechanical) are just much better.
Don't sleep on the ivcb brakes......From ryobi to abu...it's one of the best long range brakes....for fw bass sized baitcasters.
@@TackleAdvisors To each their own and YMMV. Mechanicals are not for me and really long distance beach casting to 150 yards and beyond. First thing I do with all Abu C3's and their ilk (Akios, etc) is to fully remove centrifugal brakes (and all level wind components, if found) and install a good mono mag. Far better casting control and nothing to ever wear out or change braking characteristics due to wear, temperature, water invasion. Most decent lo-pro bait casters for sweet or inshore salt have mag brakes and that's all that's needed.
@@rfdsrd when talking long range and heavy payloads. I don't think you can beat a knobby on an abu or Penn. But that doesn't apply to bass / trout fishing using a palmable low pro. But why start with a level wind in the first place? And gut it.... Just start with a CT. :) (FYI I'm a long time surf caster and am an admin on the world's largest surf casting forum for over a decade) my longest measured casts ranged between 700 and 800 feet
What grease do you recommend?
Someone just asked this. THis is what I told him.
For the high end fw stuff. I have some Krytox 225. No doubt that is the best stuff. But man is it $$...The film it leaves is near permanent it seems.
Just a couple dots on the pinion and main gear is all that is needed.
Corrosion x is quickly becoming my go to for saltwater. And it is better than anything else i've used in fw (aside from krytox)...and i used EVERYTHING..From that crap hotsauce and ardent butter....to corrosion block, royal purple, yamalube etc. But it looks like baby puke....but works and lasts :)
krytox amzn.to/2eGy4SW
corrosion x amzn.to/2urcQMz
If you use krytox...make certain that the surface is free of any other oils or contaminants. It doesn't really mix with other lubes and looks like it curdles. Not a bad thing...but corrosion x grease can be thinned with corrosion x oil .
which is great for saltwater bearings and such
Lol first time I saw you say Krytox was best but pricey I clicked the link thinking can't be too bad, I quickly came back to click the corrosion x link, lol.
+Lance Howard lmao yeah. I got lucky as I contacted the company to see what they would recommend. And they sent me a 1 ounce sample. I've since gone to the 227 in the smaller tubes. And only really use it on the high end freshwater stuff that only needs a small amount of grease
Tackle Advisors yeah, I get it completely that it's got its purpose but for my freshwater fishing I think I can afford stepping down, not like I am lubing an Indy car, lol.
Working with metal press tool sanding is not good even you want to shine it... it'll take at least 1000 off the metal... use metal polish then is you need more use a scub patch to smooth it down own and ice blaste it for better clean and shine and acetone it... sand paper will take a lot off metal and 1000 off is a lot for it to miss with the reel or it'll take the shape edge of it
This looks a lot like how to lose tiny springs really fast.
What is the proof that polishing the metal is better?; magnets do not discriminate on polished metal.
Horrific Waste of Time!! You are completely correct.
What In The Name of All That is Holy!!! Do you REALLY believe that a polished piece of metal shares electrons better than a non polished piece!?
You sir have 0 idea on how your equipment works. Good luck to you. It appears you're going to need it.