War Within Melee Dps RANKED - Best Single Target & AoE, Best Hero Talents, Best Overall

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  • Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
  • With the War Within expansion release date quickly approaching I know everyone is trying to figure out what their main character is going to be. In this video we'll go through every melee class and spec and rank how they are doing so far in the War Within. If you're struggling to figure out what you want to play, this might just help you out!
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    Timestamps -
    00:00 - War Within Melee RANKED
    00:42 - Arms Warrior
    02:31 - Fury Warrior
    04:07 - Survival Hunter
    06:04 - Ret Paladin
    07:54 - Havoc DH
    09:38 - Outlaw Rogue
    11:23 - Assassination Rogue
    12:59 - Subtlety Rogue
    14:04 - Feral Druid
    15:53 - Enhancement Shaman
    17:58 - Windwalker Monk
    19:42 - Frost DK
    21:31 - Unholy DK
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  • @SignsOfKelani
    @SignsOfKelani  24 дні тому +2

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    • @bertjones3010
      @bertjones3010 24 дні тому

      can one assume that "S" means superior? I couldn't find where you actually discussed you ranking scale and it doesn't help when you time stamp it to cater to each class - another words skipping classes I don't play.

    • @BlaisingSoul
      @BlaisingSoul 4 дні тому

      Taliesin and Evi made reference to you on their vid on melee for TWW this week 😊

  • @DemonicInfinity
    @DemonicInfinity 24 дні тому +112

    "Playing around a static aoe can be pretty annoying"
    *Laughs in DK*

    • @Kurnhelios
      @Kurnhelios 23 дні тому +10

      Huffing hopium that they'll add a talent where death and decay follows you

    • @MostlyFish21
      @MostlyFish21 21 день тому

      That's why I don't play DK. That, and they're way too slow for my liking. I don't like always overcapping on runic power but that's on me

    • @-TyTy
      @-TyTy 17 днів тому +1

      @@MostlyFish21 With the hero talent, ROTA, you're laughing in being faster

  • @ninjaAMN
    @ninjaAMN 17 днів тому +15

    Here's the breakdown of the tier list from the video:
    S Tier - Ret Paladin > Windwalker Monk
    A Tier - Unholy DK > Havoc DH > Survival Hunter > Frost DK > Fury Warrior
    B Tier - Feral Druid > Outlaw Rogue > Arms Warrior > Enhancement Shaman
    C Tier - Assassination Rogue > Subtlety Rogue

  • @TheMiddleAgedKidVideos
    @TheMiddleAgedKidVideos 24 дні тому +182

    Why is it creators never like passive or background effects? Most specs have enough active abilities to juggle as it is.

    • @pglove9554
      @pglove9554 24 дні тому +4

      It's a non point. Generally opinion. Game has changed fk all since launch when you really think about it..

    • @DemonicInfinity
      @DemonicInfinity 24 дні тому +17

      Because they are often just a number boost, so nothing that is new for a spec. Some people like that, but some people want the spec gameplay to actually change depending on your choice especially in talent and hero talent treee.

    • @Soulessdeeds
      @Soulessdeeds 24 дні тому +46

      I would rather see more passives than see blizzard add more buttons. We aren't 2014 PvP gods with 80 macros and keybinds.

    • @danielsmith2483
      @danielsmith2483 24 дні тому +13

      ​@@pglove9554bro never played vanilla wow lol

    • @Daisudori
      @Daisudori 24 дні тому +3

      A good design will allow u to take passives or actives and have similar output. Choose your difficulty. Ele Shaman tree kinda had this

  • @ShadowMk3
    @ShadowMk3 20 днів тому

    Linked your video in the forum rogue feedback thread, we are desperate for eyes to be on the issues we are facing, so I appreciate the video even more, and I hope it will bring more attention to it

  • @buddyjarjoura5166
    @buddyjarjoura5166 24 дні тому +7

    Great video. Exactly the kind of overview I was looking for! Hope ranged/caster is up next!

  • @TadSoft
    @TadSoft 24 дні тому +81

    Rogue here crying for help.

    • @NinjaKhaos74
      @NinjaKhaos74 24 дні тому +14

      as a sub rogue i feel like i do 10x the work of say bm hunter but the same or less damage,shit is annoying

    • @mladengochev6918
      @mladengochev6918 24 дні тому

      atleast u are not a shaman :D

    • @kunjunction1
      @kunjunction1 24 дні тому +6

      rogues are fine he doesnt know half the rotations since the updates. missing huge prio on the video XD thats why i take what he posts LATE with a grain of salt.

    • @abnknyte
      @abnknyte 23 дні тому +2

      Rogues will get overtuned like they always do. Don't worry!

    • @leonardceres9061
      @leonardceres9061 23 дні тому +3

      crying is useless the other five Rogues playing the game won’t be able to hear you…

  • @FritzSchober
    @FritzSchober 24 дні тому +40

    Less buttons is good, not bad!

    • @Manylimes
      @Manylimes 20 днів тому +2

      Completely agree

  • @LordGodfrey
    @LordGodfrey 23 дні тому +2

    So glad I main a DK, but I’m also excited MoP Remix let me get a ton of alts leveled!

  • @OkayJay444
    @OkayJay444 24 дні тому +2

    Love the fantasy of Fatebound Outlaw. But like you said, not much to get excited about visually. I feel like it could be one of the coolest.

  • @Zerstoror
    @Zerstoror 24 дні тому +75

    Wish you put chapters in

    • @Skrittlez
      @Skrittlez 24 дні тому +3

      Yesss

    • @TopicxWoW
      @TopicxWoW 24 дні тому +1

      Mained Rogue all of DF, I am re-rolling. Its the worst state the class has been in in all of M+ it’s so punishing if you mess up one RTB or accidentally drop stealth and lose buffs, if you die it’s terrible for the next 2 minutes. It suffers from RP and flying cause you have to break stealth, it has no utility at all, can’t dispel, heal, hard CC, Rez. It’s just terrible RN.

    • @FlunkyKong
      @FlunkyKong 23 дні тому +1

      There are now chapters

    • @Skrittlez
      @Skrittlez 23 дні тому +2

      Wow nice they listened lol

  • @bustrbsly82
    @bustrbsly82 24 дні тому +14

    you might want to take a 2nd look at havoc. their talents haven't changed but losing their tier set combined with the hero talents has completely changed the class. it plays very differently now.

    • @kunjunction1
      @kunjunction1 24 дні тому +15

      if you watch the video he doesnt even know the basic rotations or prio for specs. this video was rushed just to push shit out the door.

    • @clauslarsen8971
      @clauslarsen8971 19 днів тому

      I fee like he just rated it on the fact that he generally likes DH in every expansion

    • @monsterdragondeluxe
      @monsterdragondeluxe 12 днів тому

      This guy useally just reads wowhead patchnotes..
      I guess this has 0 research and 0 effort for it. I honestly think he is not playing the beta that much.

    • @Drew71707
      @Drew71707 12 днів тому

      insultingly bad take on havoc yeah, oh I like how they play and they got no changes except hero talents gut the playstyles

  • @zeraora807
    @zeraora807 24 дні тому +2

    I love the thumbnail "Why are you yelling!? Lol

  • @WolfsOcean
    @WolfsOcean 24 дні тому +3

    Good thing im switching to Holy Pally from Ret. The fact Ret is getting so much highlighting in all WW has my Nerf Senses tingling

  • @nawdog187
    @nawdog187 24 дні тому +2

    I think your pretty accurate on this list considering I play em all lol, nice work , we appreciate very much for all you do .!!!!!

  • @yeye1600
    @yeye1600 24 дні тому +8

    Putting Havoc with it's huge problems currently in A tier is crazy to me. One hero talent tree does 1/3 of the other, adds nothing visually even though that's supposedly a big part of it. The other (aldrachi reaver) just adds more buffs/ debuffs and even soul fragment micro management to a already insanely min-max micromanage spec. It's way too much. Feels like both trees were designed to go with vengeance and fuck havoc as always.

    • @user-tw1dt4no7f
      @user-tw1dt4no7f 24 дні тому +1

      90% of everyones issue with the hero talents for DH is visuals. it still plays and does as much if not more than most classes. The only issue i see with the hero talents is havoc and souls.

    • @yeye1600
      @yeye1600 23 дні тому +1

      @@user-tw1dt4no7f my main issue was concerning the design of the hero talents and the philosophy behind their design. To me it shows that they either don't care enough or actively ignore feedback about havoc, seeing as they added even more micromanagement

  • @AmaSeeker
    @AmaSeeker 24 дні тому

    Thank you~😄

  • @spamstabber
    @spamstabber 22 дні тому +1

    Making ret even better is pretty wild

  • @kalamari8243
    @kalamari8243 22 дні тому

    as someone who has every spec besides healers on both sides (alliance and horde), I am extremely excited for hero talents. now I can mix up my gamestyles and being (a little bit) more "unique" with each char and not having e.g. 2 completely identical WW monks on each side!

  • @mmonkeybone
    @mmonkeybone 5 днів тому

    feral has always been my comfy class even when its bad its the slower comfy version of a rouge i do wish it had more going for it but i always keep coming back.

  • @Jagr00nage
    @Jagr00nage 22 дні тому

    I've mained WW since Legion and that doesn't look like it's changing at all but I'm super excited to play mountain thane because it just looks cool.

    • @attinger117
      @attinger117 21 день тому

      WW has had massive changes to the talent tree…. And they have two distinct hero talent playstyles.

    • @Jagr00nage
      @Jagr00nage 21 день тому

      @@attinger117 Yea finally its gotten a bit stale but still a fun spec. Excited to try out different variations.

  • @matthewfincham243
    @matthewfincham243 24 дні тому +2

    Love your vids mate

  • @gregoryshinn9805
    @gregoryshinn9805 24 дні тому +1

    Thanks for the video

  • @Davew5183
    @Davew5183 24 дні тому +5

    Glad I can continue playing my main (Paladin)2005-now and still going

  • @Mickemera
    @Mickemera 11 днів тому

    Holy Shit, Ret Paladin on top? Cant wait for a patch that tune that to about middle or lower just before release.

  • @Metaphix
    @Metaphix 24 дні тому +1

    hopefully they change the colossus arms warrior ability to not lock you in place, maybe just lower movement speed by like 70%

  • @InfestationPony
    @InfestationPony 24 дні тому +1

    God I wish Rider of the Apocalypse can be as good as it sounds, so far all I'm seeing are randomness slapped upon randomness, looks like Sanlayn for me. Plus those extra haste buff can be quite useful at the start of this expansion.

  • @lukasgaming82
    @lukasgaming82 24 дні тому +1

    Hey Kelani!

  • @Ignan-Randel
    @Ignan-Randel 24 дні тому +1

    Stuck between elemental, survival and windwalker, my 3 mains.

  • @Baloshz
    @Baloshz 24 дні тому +1

    thx for making this great video

  • @Uncle19
    @Uncle19 24 дні тому +2

    With the changes to alts, I feel like my main isn’t massively important. Which is a good thing.

  • @jamessun6207
    @jamessun6207 24 дні тому +38

    Rogues are in a sad spot

    • @bigbramble
      @bigbramble 24 дні тому +5

      They are just so ridiculously complicated to play with so many finishers and cooldowns to manage.

    • @magdabrownis265
      @magdabrownis265 24 дні тому +2

      @@bigbramble nah they’re not bad

    • @user-il3wd2oz2s
      @user-il3wd2oz2s 24 дні тому +2

      Good

    • @richiepipes8960
      @richiepipes8960 24 дні тому +11

      ​@@magdabrownis265yea they are. Zero reason to play one over monk, pally, fury warr, or surv hunter.

    • @metalmach1ne748
      @metalmach1ne748 24 дні тому +3

      Assa feels good and has strongest st

  • @caemalin
    @caemalin 24 дні тому +4

    Time markers needed in your vids man 🙌

    • @Soldruid
      @Soldruid 23 дні тому

      There are time stamps

    • @caemalin
      @caemalin 23 дні тому

      Not when I wrote this comment, thanks though.

  • @dualSpec1
    @dualSpec1 24 дні тому

    I was thinking about ret our ww monk was hard to pick but when playing delves on beta it was allot easier wirh a ret. And since delves will be important ret to go and ww monk for alt for the first season

  • @nerdrooted
    @nerdrooted 24 дні тому

    I've been mulling over a change from BM hunter for TWW, and my two choices I'd arrived at were either Ret Paladin or WW Monk 😂
    WW Monk looks like (atm anyway) like it'll do more damage, but Ret does have more defensives, and will likely be a better pick for progression raiding due to that.
    I'm waiting for pre-patch to see how the changes play out for my actual live characters, even if we won't have access to hero talents just yet.

    • @guilleherreros3518
      @guilleherreros3518 24 дні тому

      Who cares about damage are you a profesional player?

    • @nerdrooted
      @nerdrooted 24 дні тому +4

      @@guilleherreros3518 I'm a Cutting Edge mythic raider who would like to guarantee their raid spot as much as possible, so yes, damage matters.

  • @povved161
    @povved161 24 дні тому

    SV is my Main alt for years. Might as well make him to my Main in TWW 😍

  • @avstzn
    @avstzn 24 дні тому +1

    every hero talent tree should provide visual changes to some degree, it’s ridiculous that some specs like voidweaver shadow priest get so much stuff meanwhile fate bound rogues get to flip a coin ….

  • @xanscobe
    @xanscobe 24 дні тому +3

    As warrior main for years. This was the not a good introduction for casuals - yes they retuned rage and the waiting for auto attacks aka smoother gameplay but i rather had worded that just as "smoother gameplay" or similar. In my opinion the big change was that cleave replaces Whirlwind! This and the changes to talents + cleave cooldown + rage costs massively alters the aoe / cleave rotation esp with sweeping strikes on top. this feels way different than in DF: esp with -1 button (WW) and Storm of Swords redesign and removal of Hurricane - in the old AoE giga combo.

    • @xanscobe
      @xanscobe 24 дні тому

      For all 3 hero talents and fury I can agree and the ratings and input you gave. maybe mentioning removal of Annihilator+Slam+Storm of Swords build for fury. and sadly warrior is still lacking 1 real utility Button for M+.

    • @boxicool
      @boxicool 18 днів тому

      so on arms there will be now shity whirlwind and cleave is in basic or talent choice? i hvnt played for long time

    • @xanscobe
      @xanscobe 18 днів тому

      @@boxicool whelp read the talents. Cleave replaces ww

  • @mikebroessler6
    @mikebroessler6 18 днів тому +2

    Please pick what you like dont go by these. BEST OVERALL is what you make it. All dps healers and tanks are viable even at the highest end. PLEASEEEEEEE pick what you find the most fun

  • @Cyl444444
    @Cyl444444 18 днів тому

    The current unholy is was more simple than it's past versions thankfully . No where as simple as frost you just press obliterate and frost strike 90% of the time ; but once you understand the opening rotation and how your talents play off of it , it becomes very satisfying to play both in dungeons and raiding . Few different builds as well to tinker with compared to some specs really only having a single cookie cutter build .

  • @fishraposo7192
    @fishraposo7192 22 дні тому

    This video got me to become a member, can't wait for the tier list of the other roles!

  • @Jo-Jo8vs
    @Jo-Jo8vs 22 дні тому

    If Blood DK becomes the new meta tank in m+, I would rate DH also as S-Tier, just for the dmg buff.

  • @DeezyDuo7
    @DeezyDuo7 24 дні тому

    Ret pally feels sooooo gooood 🤤🤤

  • @Lrn2hmp
    @Lrn2hmp 24 дні тому +1

    What is that damage text?

  • @user-zr2el2uv7v
    @user-zr2el2uv7v 9 днів тому

    Is this a tier list for m+ or overall because I saw u put ret p in S but on the logs from raid they are doing just ok

  • @Defocus_
    @Defocus_ 24 дні тому +4

    put survival at S tier, looks about right after that

    • @KuhntaSmash
      @KuhntaSmash 23 дні тому +2

      Yeah, after his description of his understanding of Pack Leader, it was obvious he didn't understand the new survival mechanics.

  • @thekajunpredator
    @thekajunpredator 23 дні тому

    As a huge enhancement fan. I'm glad we aren't using ice strike/eleblast/frost shock/primordial wave😁

  • @wooptidoo3525
    @wooptidoo3525 22 дні тому

    I'm considering returning for this expansion launch but i am worried about balance. Have they done anything to nerf augmentation and its toxic meta? I'm not gonna bother if I feel like i'm an idiot for not playing around that spec.

  • @zuralani1
    @zuralani1 24 дні тому +5

    Havoc in A tier? Most DHs that have played it hate aldrachi reaver's playstyle immensly. Because of the difference in damage profiles of the two hero trees, it is unlikely fel-scarred will ever be tuned to compete with aldrachi in raid without talent design changes.

    • @Avo7977
      @Avo7977 24 дні тому

      How are they in PvP, though

    • @alexvarai424
      @alexvarai424 24 дні тому +10

      @@Avo7977 nobody cares or plays pvp in wow anymore lol

    • @richiepipes8960
      @richiepipes8960 24 дні тому +2

      Dude idk how he gave Havoc an A....its awful to play rn.

    • @pawned4617
      @pawned4617 24 дні тому +2

      @@Avo7977 Even in PvP, fel-scarred is garbage, aldrachi reaver out performs in Raid, M+ and PvP. DH really needs some major reworking before live

    • @Primal_Echo
      @Primal_Echo 24 дні тому +1

      ​@@alexvarai424I almost exclusively play PvP...

  • @Tylas100
    @Tylas100 24 дні тому

    Nice unholy is save 😂😘

  • @AStreakingHoBo
    @AStreakingHoBo 9 днів тому

    For shamans this needs to be updated

  • @fishtacos007
    @fishtacos007 24 дні тому

    I main shaman but haven't played since SL. IDK what to play

  • @leaflotus6726
    @leaflotus6726 13 днів тому

    Survival hero choice is AOE/wildfire? Sentinal. Singletarget/mongoose? Pack leader. Pack leader is really cool and its singlw target is insane on single target (and chakrams are back) :D

  • @pmdinaz
    @pmdinaz 17 днів тому

    Looks like I'll stick with Arms on my warrior (never liked fury) and Assassination on my rogue. I'm not chasing dps for frustration.

  • @lovelylych7643
    @lovelylych7643 24 дні тому

    Now please do ranged classes :)

  • @afau1non
    @afau1non 24 дні тому +1

    unholy and probably frost aswell have the same problem pallys had before rework forced to play in consecration, bad game design if you want the game to be dynamic and very rng in pugs

  • @Wolfemother3441
    @Wolfemother3441 24 дні тому +3

    DK POWER!

  • @Denstoremonkey
    @Denstoremonkey 24 дні тому +2

    POG

  • @Ak3R0
    @Ak3R0 23 дні тому

    Looks like that owl poops on enemies from above...

  • @joshuagarner1654
    @joshuagarner1654 24 дні тому +1

    Ret paladin, always ret paladin

  • @Daisudori
    @Daisudori 24 дні тому +1

    Can someone recommend me some low APM specs for War Within? Still Destro and MM for that?

    • @bobstoner415
      @bobstoner415 24 дні тому

      Sounds about right. Both are very fun to play because they are simple but powerful so you can focus more on the game. I recommend both.

    • @BeastMastery
      @BeastMastery 24 дні тому +1

      Havoc, Fury and all rogue specs. Trust me.
      Don't trust me!

    • @rick5787
      @rick5787 24 дні тому

      Dev evoker is the lowest APM in the game. But its because you have 'charged' abilities.

    • @Daisudori
      @Daisudori 24 дні тому +1

      @@BeastMastery Assa used to be the low APM melee. But its not very enjoyable spec. Same for Arms war, altho imo thats abit better to play, I keep using it for alt.
      Am, bored on hunter so will try the Warlock and Evoker out I guess.

    • @sleeper789
      @sleeper789 24 дні тому

      Devastation Evoker is the lowest APM in the game at around 35 in single target. Not surprising since it revolves around a 3 second channel ability. It's still really fun and I mained it for most of DF. All three Warlock specs and MM are around 45-50.

  • @Ethan_Coble
    @Ethan_Coble 24 дні тому +2

    As a WW main, I honestly am super grateful that they decided to rework one of the less popular specs and they really listened to the WW community about what changes they wanted to see. Feels good to finally get some love and common sense changes that were desperately needed for the last few expansions. Blizz really knocked it outa the park with the class and spec tree!

  • @Graavigala85
    @Graavigala85 24 дні тому +1

    just as always: which class has the best gear wins and plate wearers seem to have the best looking world loot sets so its easy to pick

  • @Svanir.80
    @Svanir.80 24 дні тому +1

    Seeing Havoc, Frost DK, and Survival in the A tier warms my heart. Been my favorite characters to play for ages now

    • @coroflame8098
      @coroflame8098 24 дні тому +2

      Havoc shouldn't be in A tier tho. The tuning and damage profiles of the hero talents mean that aldrachi reaver is miles ahead of fel scarred and everyone hates how it play. Kelani gave it an A because he liked it in dragonflight but in the state its in it will feel god awful to play

  • @zeveroarerules
    @zeveroarerules 24 дні тому

    Druid main, forever. Since vanilla.

  • @ShadowsOfThePast
    @ShadowsOfThePast 24 дні тому +1

    Judging by this video it seems that there are many specs that suffer from the excessive amounts of procs/buffs/short CD's that you need to track to be optimal..
    I think they should make those specs a bit more simple.. NOT braindead but slightly less stuff so that you don't need to mash the keyboard like your life depends on it.

    • @prismoo9769
      @prismoo9769 21 день тому +1

      Rogue here when you said mash your keyboard i feel that

  • @Miavydrina
    @Miavydrina 21 день тому

    Been playing Unholy DK for 16 years. LET'S FUCKIN GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @Arkael1110
    @Arkael1110 22 дні тому +1

    I'm a bit confused about the death knight section. You said nothing but good things about frost death knight ended by saying it's some of the best hero talents in the game and then placed it in the middle of a tier......

  • @Ciansatlas
    @Ciansatlas 24 дні тому +3

    God dang now the frost dk moved on the list for TWW

  • @T.R.75
    @T.R.75 24 дні тому

    why dont i feel like a Hero with the majority of these Hero Talents? good vid though, good info.

  • @dariuswhitefang2993
    @dariuswhitefang2993 24 дні тому

    as a legion havoc enjoyer DF saison 3+ was awesome. But the new hero talent ruins almost everything. It works great if you can keep it up but you almost everytime trying to do so. so the potentical highest dps dosent feel well at all at the moment.
    depending on the needs of my group i would consider frost DK if melees are needed.

  • @cooller8888
    @cooller8888 22 дні тому

    I haven't played since mid-showlands and as a Rogue main who enjoys assa and sub I'm disappointed and I think I'm gonna wait till season 2 at least if I come back, which is unlikely.

  • @prismoo9769
    @prismoo9769 21 день тому

    Is already hard for me as a assasination Rogue to do a good amount of dmg and now you are telling me they are going to Nerf my kings bane

  • @arzos2603
    @arzos2603 6 днів тому

    RIP Unholy DK after todays nerf

  • @The200Dragon
    @The200Dragon 24 дні тому

    I love the warriors Mountain Thane for fury. It makes me feel like Thor. Although it won't work mechanically very well I like the idea of wielding a 2 handed axe and a 1 handed hammer making me look like Thor from the Marvel movies wielding Stormbreaker and Mjolnir.

  • @kevinwilson9589
    @kevinwilson9589 23 дні тому

    Why the constant changes to specs? It's almost like Bliz dosen't want a person to learn how to play their character well, because if you put in the time to learn, it gets changed.

  • @thatonedudea
    @thatonedudea 24 дні тому +1

    What does blizzard have against assassination rogues?!

    • @Parawietje
      @Parawietje 24 дні тому

      They hate assa im sure.

  • @Thagias
    @Thagias 19 днів тому

    Enhancement might be removed or rebranded to tank spec at this point...

  • @DoodleBobJ
    @DoodleBobJ 24 дні тому

    Really looking forward to DK playing both specs but probably mostly frost. The changes to the specs and rider of the apocalypse really elevate the spec. Finally some good mobility!

  • @navistormrage5057
    @navistormrage5057 20 днів тому

    Is there rdps t list

  • @littlebill872
    @littlebill872 11 днів тому

    is this tier list just melee classes ranked on doing normal/heroic dungeons? because ret ain't definitely S rank. spec got neutered and brought down a few notches.

  • @GdzieJestNemo
    @GdzieJestNemo 24 дні тому

    i'm so split between Shaman and DK right now

    • @snhazzy3325
      @snhazzy3325 23 дні тому

      Go shaman

    • @Zerashadow
      @Zerashadow 17 днів тому

      my 2 options were Enh shaman or Affli lock, was locked in on shaman but it seems lock will be great as well, but shaman is so enjoyable to play

    • @rathburn42
      @rathburn42 10 днів тому

      From what ive seen don't play enh shammy. I haven't heard many good things about it at all.

    • @GdzieJestNemo
      @GdzieJestNemo 10 днів тому +1

      @@rathburn42 people say it plays pretty much the same as in df - which means awesome. Changing it would suck

    • @rathburn42
      @rathburn42 10 днів тому

      @@GdzieJestNemo i mean its not used for anything in DF my man the class is in an awful place. Thats why its one of the least played specs in the game. You like what you like thought glade you enjoy it.

  • @frankcastle9691
    @frankcastle9691 23 дні тому

    The horde win.

  • @JazzyGaming
    @JazzyGaming 24 дні тому

    They changed Skyfury for Shaman. It wouldve been a nice change but now its just kinda meh

  • @markuslc1888
    @markuslc1888 24 дні тому +3

    currently the dps difference between the weakest and strongest specs are 800k dps, so ranking such a tuning mess is kinda pointless

    • @fredspekvet5875
      @fredspekvet5875 24 дні тому +3

      No its not. we're not looking just at dps or how it performs, we're looking at all the factors. does it play well. does the rotation feel good. are the new talent trees any good.. etc etc. there is more in the world than just dps, you know.

    • @markuslc1888
      @markuslc1888 24 дні тому +3

      @@fredspekvet5875 dude if a spec does tank dmg it's not relevant, if it plays well or not, because you won't be able to raid or do m+, that's how WoW is, if the tuning is somewhat right than the playstyle comes into consideration etc. if a dps spec does 0 dmg it's moreless dead, you know?

    • @keithb6344
      @keithb6344 24 дні тому

      @@markuslc1888balance tuning hasn’t happened yet. So how much damage a class does right now doesn’t matter.

    • @fredspekvet5875
      @fredspekvet5875 24 дні тому

      @@markuslc1888 No. because not everyone does instances. or does pvp. there's loads of people where pure dps doesnt mean a damned thing

    • @markuslc1888
      @markuslc1888 24 дні тому

      @@keithb6344 true it's just curious how off it is

  • @Kronosbattlemaps
    @Kronosbattlemaps 19 днів тому

    Generally any class with a spec overhaul will be good if not broken and op. It's literally happened every single time.

  • @wesleyvl8572
    @wesleyvl8572 24 дні тому +5

    Dk paldin monk are the best

  • @theR1ch
    @theR1ch 24 дні тому

    Outlaw AoE frustrates me, so it's Assassination for me.

  • @michaelkennielsen1422
    @michaelkennielsen1422 24 дні тому

    TLDR: When he says "Fluid" he means easy. And the ranks are based on how easy specs are to play

  • @Nightmase
    @Nightmase 24 дні тому +1

    Im kinda disappointed in the enhancer :( and were still waiting for shamans / paladins to be released for every race ....

    • @AustinMumford
      @AustinMumford 24 дні тому

      Shamans and paladins released for every race? What? How does that fit in lore?

    • @Nightmase
      @Nightmase 23 дні тому +1

      @@AustinMumford so you want to argue with lore but got tauren rouge ? Weird :D and btw there are already undead priests aswell as crusaders who use the light

    • @Zerashadow
      @Zerashadow 17 днів тому +1

      i would lowkey love to play Void Elf or Lightforged Shaman, but regular space-smurf will have to do for now.

  • @elliotsimpson3591
    @elliotsimpson3591 23 дні тому

    TWW is still 2 months away, that's a LONG time for Blizzard to make changes and shake up whatever the meta of this video is!

  • @einjhell
    @einjhell 13 днів тому

    i guess pally will have nerf again S class before launch haha

  • @sermerlin1
    @sermerlin1 20 днів тому +3

    I just wish WoW focused less on hack n slash and more on single target control/DPS.
    I just find it ridiculous how every class is equiped with almost AOE only abilities and setup to destroy pull of 10-15 enemies per pull (dungeons, raids etc).
    I'm probably if not definitely a minority here but I enjoyed so much more when instead of just pulling couple groups at once and slapping them all to death we CCed and focused target or 2 per pull of a group... and avoided smartly what we could.
    I just feel like now I'm playing diablo game (literally as I need to zoom all the way out and watch isometrically in order to see enemy AOEs and wtf is going on) in a WoW skin since we're just hacking and slashing.
    But I guess that's just me.

  • @ChemiiOneLegacy
    @ChemiiOneLegacy 24 дні тому +2

    Stuff like this is entertaining but that's really all anyone should take from it. Every single person told and video told me hunters would be bad in Dragonflight but because I liked playing Marksman especially I just went with it. Nearly all the predictions were incorrect and the first season of M+ I absolutely carried.
    Play what you enjoy first, the numbers will always be in flux.

  • @BattousaiHBr
    @BattousaiHBr 12 днів тому

    unironically the only melee tier list that matters currently. pay attention to not only him actually playing every spec but crushing in every spec.

  • @ConeyIslandKing
    @ConeyIslandKing 2 дні тому

    ranged version?

  • @EternalAngel333
    @EternalAngel333 24 дні тому +1

    Wont bother with tierlists as expansion isnt fully out specs are getting changes left right and center making tierlists like this before its even out is kinda eh and should not really be looked at.

  • @FitMagic
    @FitMagic 24 дні тому

    THANK YOU for doing a tier list! I see so many content creators talking about how fun this class is or how cool that class is or whatnot, but knowing how they rank against one another in terms of actual power is important too!

    • @keithb6344
      @keithb6344 24 дні тому +3

      Power is irrelevant in beta. Numbers change. How a class plays is all that matters until the tuning pass after the patch launches.

  • @Andy07777
    @Andy07777 23 дні тому

    Every class segment starts with "the spec has not changed much". I am not very confident about the expansion and if its even worth playing.

  • @TheMost4422
    @TheMost4422 23 дні тому +5

    There’s still almost 2 months before launch. If you are deciding mains rn based on power or playability, it’s a fools errand but you do you.

    • @JD-hc5rv
      @JD-hc5rv 22 дні тому +2

      It's definitely worth hearing how development is shaping up though. There's never been an expansion where all the specs are fully baked on release. It's definitely valueable to know which classes are feeling good and have fun new things to try, and which ones currently feel the same, and *especially* which ones feel unfinished. If I played hunter I'd definitely want to know my class is currently completely unfinished and shows no signs whatsoever of achieving any direction.