Our Second EV Road Trip Didn't Go As Planned **2023 Chevy Bolt EUV**
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- Опубліковано 24 січ 2023
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This is why I use a gas car for long trips and EV for short trips and charge on a Level charger at home
The bolt peaks around 50kW, you should only be using a 350kW station if that is the only one available. Leave those open for faster charging cars.
You don't always get a level 2 charger and that did not appear to be a busy station.
@@trenier23 I didn’t say anything about a level 2 charger. But there was only one working 350kW station, so while it was empty when he arrived another fast charging EV could have came by in the next half an hour
I was reacting to the apparent absence of other cars. I didn't know that the others were not working.
Not all the fault is on the driver, new EV owners might not understand that the fastest charger speed might not be the best for them and others. Personally I think EA and the others should had a system in place to notify EV drivers that the charger they are using is faster than their car and slower chargers are available that will still change at full speed. I think Chargeway's numbering system is really good but it still has the issue that drivers will drive a car with speed of 4 but see a 7 and think it will charge their car faster.
Absolute worst case they could start charging slow charging fees if you aren't using a charger that matches the speed of your car if one is available although that probably wouldn't work well until charger reliability gets better.
Sometimes the lesser chargers don’t work forcing people to use the 350’s
I always enjoy ev road trip vlogs! Keep it up
Thanks for the video content. We have a hybrid currently and an ice. We also have just installed a 9KW solar panel array at our house last year, starting to think about EV's. Keep up the informative work
Thanks for watching!
Loved the trip vlog with your electric car! Keep it coming, also enjoy the cruise!
Thanks!
7?? That's it? 7 kilowatts man? Man, I bet you made up some new cuss words that day. lol. Glad you made it there and I hope you guys had a good cruise. Thanks for this. Stay well.
It’s was quite the adventure… but we had each other!
Love how you threw in a peek of Kylie sleeping. Haha. Enjoying the vlog videos.
I had to do it. 😂
We just got our 2023 Bolt in November and have been very happy with it so far. It's probably good to get it during our cold months (Colorado) so we know how it performs in the winter. We've been using ChargePoint chargers in town and it charges to about 215 to 225 miles depending on how cold it happens to be. I do see that a mile driven in the cold isn't exactly a mile, but if I am driving down a slight downhill grade, it does go longer than a mile. I expect spring and summer will be different. We haven't taken it on any road trips yet, but our daughter lives in the Aspen area and there are free ChargePoints about 2 blocks from where she lives. We might take it skiing there in the spring. Not sure if my skis will fit inside (maybe). We have another vehicle, a 2011 Chevy Traverse that has 260k miles and we plan on driving that (road trips, too) until it dies. I need to have a level 2 charger installed in my garage now. We have the choice of ChargePoint Home Flex or Enel X Way JuiceBox. The ChargePoint is faster, but I've heard of quality issues with it (over time). Not sure what to get
It's all an adventure!!
I got BOLT EUV a week back. One thing I am realizing is unless you charge at home EV does not make sense.
Case in point my MDX gives 27 mpg on highway. For $3/gallon of gas it comes out to $0.11/mile.
DC Fast charging in DFW area is $0.60/kwh. So it's $39 to charge BOLT EUV to 100%. If you get 220 miles then the cost is $0.17/mile.
I think hybrids will fit the math perfectly. Real use of EVs is not road tripping instead these are best suited for around town with low home charging rates.
This is the math I've been trying to figure out 😅
Where do you pay $3 for a gallon of gas? You get more than 220 miles in a Bolt EV for a full charge. You're rounding in the favor of your presumptions. Your point is still valid that if you aren't able to charge at home, an EV makes much less sense, at least in terms of energy costs. They still require almost no maintenance (brakes, oil changes, filter changes, etc.), so they're cheaper to own.
Infrastructure is the biggest problem. Not enough chargers, not reliable chargers, not enough fast chargers. I know with the Bolt speed with DCFC isn't an issue, but for those with faster charging cars finding fast chargers is tough and if you get off the beaten path you are lucky to find any chargers at all let alone fast chargers.
Tesla has begun opening up it's charging network to non-Tesla's. It's only in a few areas right now, but it is expanding. Should help you guys out with reliable chargers. 👍
@@LloydM Bad news is that Tesla's announcement with the White House stated they are only opening up like 7500 chargers. So it is only a tiny portion of the Tesla network. I don't look for that to help us very much. Tesla should have been told that you open it all up for the public funds or you get nothing. Who ever negotiated that deal got the short end of the stick and Tesla is in the driver seat.
Most people would likely have the Bolt as a second vehicle that mostly charges at home. It CAN do road trips, but not efficiently.
If you do a lot of traveling with your ev, nothing like a Tesla for the infrastructure. I have a tesla and a bolt euv, and the tesla is my traveling vehicle
I've been really enjoying your channel. I just picked up my own Bolt last Saturday and have been starting the install process for the charger. Your explanation was one of the first I had seen and it gave me more confidence in the process. While anxiety producing, it seems to, so far, be going smoothly. Just waiting for the contracted company to contact me. I'll continue watching your channel to see how your car is doing as well. PS. Did you name it? I got a personalized plate that says SKITTL (skittle) :-D
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for sharing your experience with your Bolt. I think I made the right decision with my 2021 Rav4 Prime purchase in 2021. I’m not ready for a fully electric vehicle until maybe the next decade when battery technology becomes more advanced and charging infrastructure becomes more established across the nation.
My Prime gets around 600 miles total range when fully charged and when the gas tank is filled up. So my road trips are worry free and the ~45 EV miles take care of my daily commute needs.
Considering I got my Prime for MSRP at $43K in addition to the $7,500 tax credit that was available in 2021, it was a deal that I couldn’t pass up because I knew the tax credit wouldn’t last that long for this particular vehicle.
I love your optimism. Ccs chargers are frustrating. They are why I switched to brand T.
I’m in the middle of a 600 mile road trip in a Bolt. Got conned by Hertz into renting it (the website implied they only had Teslas). Never again. We’re 8 hrs into our trip and only halfway there. Normally the whole trip is 10 hrs. Pathetic charging speed. Totally unacceptable for any long trip. Ran into a young couple with the same Hertz “deal” who got conned the identical way. Basically ruined their vacation. They were in the market for a new vehicle and wanted to check out an EV. After this experience the husband said he felt like buying the biggest diesel, smokiest PU he could find. 😅 between Hertz’s dishonesty and Chevys bad product this trip has convinced me to forget EVs as a viable option. At least for the foreseeable future.
Nice video I like your honest viewpoint. Had a 2018 Bolt and thru the GM buy back was able to get a 2022 Launch Edition Bolt EUV for virtually pennies. I use mine basically for work commutes and average weekend running around town. It is great for that and having a charging station in my garage I have never used public stations, but with the number that I see not working the average American is not going to cozy up to electric cars too soon. Really need to build a reliable infrastructure first. I don't buy into the BS hype that they are better on the planet because they are definitely not, but they are a blast to drive. Since 2018 I have averaged approx. $25 a month to charge due to my all-local tripping so it fits my needs great.
I am debating buying one for that exact same use case.
Hey, great video! How do you watch things on the infotainment system?
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I have seen lots of cars charging at that Target in Gainesville…. Weird that you had that problem
That site was down for an upgrade I believe
FYI, if you had EVGO credits, you could have used them at that Chargepoint charger.
No EVGO credits for me…
How to use EVgo credits with Chargepoint?
EV Charging etiquette 101: If your car can't charge at high speeds (like the Bolt), DO NOT use the 350kW chargers, if there is a 150 available. It's the same as a gas car ICE'ing an EV charger.
We realize that new owners do not know these things, so the word needs to be spread via media like UA-cam.
I actually want to thank the creator of this video for posting this up, because it's a perfect way to let EV owners know about things like charging etiquette.
The guess-O-Meter on my 2020 bolt never shows those high of numbers. It usually maxes out at guessing a max of 220 or 230 on the max. And I drive pretty conservatively on road trips.
Do you live in a cold climate? I'm guessing in Florida the battery condition probably never kicks on. At least my Bolt estimates high milage here in Southern California.
@@overcaffeinatedengineering southern California. Usually doesn't get below 70 here 😂
In the winter sometimes it'll get to the low 40s at night time, but that's the worse.
I dunno. I'm not that concerned since I still need to do the recall battery swap. But if it's still giving me issues after that I might have to reach out to GM
Did you spend more time charging or driving on your trip? Bolts are great around town not so on road trips due to the slowest charging in an EV. Third party chargers really suck too.
More time driving.
I have a question, how did you get your Chevy bolt to get to 260 miles of charging capacity?
Just daily in town driving… that was the first time I seen it that high
It's a major problem with ccs. Do you have plug share app? Good to have
Downloaded the plug share app yesterday!
@TTorres1183 that app is better than the electrify america app. Higher accuracy rate because the drivers input what they see
Why are you using a 350 charger. You should be on the 150
It says up to 350 Karen he’s fully aware relax
@@ltx383 the point is he could use a 150 if available there are cars out there that could take advantage of that 350. Instead he is charging a 55 kw bolt on it. He won’t see any difference on the 150 so why use the 350. I have a bolt euv and only use a 350 if it is the only one working. Ev consideration for other drivers
@@ltx383 He's not a Karen. Taking a 350 when your car only does 50kW means a faster charging car now has to use the slower 150 station.
Thank you!!
@@ryansherman4556 keyword “if available”. Why would you assume that wasn’t the case? Like I said him fully aware of his vehicle not being able to take advantage I’m almost more than sure there is a reason why he’s using that specific unit.
Could you please address why you were using the 350kw charger so we can get the EV Hall monitors some closure?
Probably because he isn’t aware of the etiquette around charger use. The charger that has chademo available should be used last since that’s the only one Leaf’s can use, then you save the 350s for last if your car can’t make use of the faster speed. Of course you can use it, but you should only use it if the 150s aren’t available. It will take an hour to charge a Bolt vs 15-20 minutes of a faster car.
@@GeoffJohnson mind your business is better etiquette around life.
After watching this, I would probably buy an ev for city driving only. It is just not worth the aggravation
Traveling just requires more planning
@@TTorres1183 I know what you are saying but this whole situation with chargers being offline even after the planning is just nerve wracking and not worth the anxiety. Think I will get the bolt for the city.
Hey hun. Let's use the restroom and stare at ourselves for over half an hour. Dude, C'mon. One tank of diesel and you're down and back. I don't understand it yet.
I rented a Hyundai Kona from Hertz. It took me two hours to charge from zero to full every time it takes forever to charge those things massive batteries. I’ll stick with my gasoline engine.
No link?
It’s in the description…
How are watching movies on your screen?
Link is in the video description
This is the reason for the push to the tesla charging network ea doesnt care nor does evgo
the bolt is not a road trip ev,, that 50 kw charging makes it useless
It’s not the best on a road trip
Likee it-that is best video-do you wanna promotion?, goodbye-