Totally agree with the Medley at number 1. Owned one for 6 months and travelled over 3,000 miles. MPG @ 120 and phenomenal reliability. Slim body makes it easy to filter and the lights are amazing. Local dealer is the icing on the cake. 2 year warranty and 12 months breakdown assistance. Why wouldn't you buy one. Love it. Beverly 400 next.
Depreciation is a huge (mostly overlooked) cost of scooter ownership and out of the top 10, it’s really only the Honda PCX and the Yamaha NMax (and possibly the Vespa) that maintains reasonable resale values.
Bought the Medley 150 last year. Best purchase ever. The 125 would be more than sufficient as well I think, as these engines develop lots of torque at the rear wheel.
Honda PCX from my 8000 kilometres over one year experience. I am sure the other scooters are good too, and I have averaged 125mpg (52 Kilometres per litre) over one year.
Having ridden honda scooters for years, I've got to say that the drum brake is brilliant on the back wheel. It's saved me a few times, where it tends to slide your back end instead of grabbing it. And this tendency to rely on the front disc can get you splattered. Also I got the conjoined brakes separated, Now I can use the back brake for slipping through traffick. Throttle and back brake only makes for no wobble, Got that tip from a police bike rider, try it.
It's easy to tune your disk brakes by changing the pads. There's nothing inherently superior about drum brakes except they used to cost the manufacturer less to produce than disc brakes. And in the old days the pad materials used to be more sensitive to water splashing so the drums could survive a puddle or two better than unshielded disc brakes. But the drums also hold water in longer once it's inside. But ever since materials have improved there's no real place for drum brakes on any motor vehicle. I guess they want to have upgrade talking points and put the drum brakes on the lower-priced models.
As someone who has owned Euro 5 versions of the Piaggio Medley and the Honda PCX I would like to add to your assessment of these scooters. The Medley has a slightly more informative display showing 2 trip meters ( 1 for the PCX) and also ambient air temperature. As you say the Medley produces 15BHP with a top speed of 70 MPH versus the PCX’s 12.5 BHP and 65 MPH. It also has a slightly greater amount of underseat storage although the PCX still has room for a full face helmet + room for gloves etc. The PCX however outshines the Medley in other ways, if looks are important the PCX wins hands down. It’s fuel consumption is at least 20% better than the Medley and is considerably lighter (about 30 Kg). I’m 5’7” and sitting on the PCX I can get my feet flat on the ground, on the Medley I could not achieve that level of control. The turning circle of the PCX is better and manoeuvring on a gravel driveway is far easier on the PCX. Likewise putting the bike on the centre stand is easier with the PCX. The PCX consistently outsells not only the Medley but all other scooters and powered two wheelers in the UK, I don’t think those consumers have got it wrong. One final point in my experience both bikes handle superbly and are ideal for the twisty A and B roads in my area.
I’m 5’7” and sitting on the PCX I can get my feet flat on the ground, on the Medley I could not achieve that level of control, is that the same as saying your too short for the Piaggio?
After just quitting my job and giving back my company car I feel it’s the right time to get a scooter for my new daily commute. I’ve never rode a scooter or motorcycle before, always had cars, and it daunts me a little bit…I’m almost 60 years old now and all I need is reliability and good economy. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
Had my 2016 Lexmoto FMS 125 for four years now,it's been brilliant, will do an indicated 65 mph which is not bad for a 125cc engine, If you look after them, wife them down and clean them regularly they will last.
I m 79 , been riding bikes most of my life . In recent years changed to a PCX. The Shi , Vespa , Suzuki Address and Medley are attractive to my age because the hump in the middle can be annoying.
I bought a Sym Jet 14LC in february. It's a replacement for the Kymco Agility City 125 I had for nearly 14 years. Way better lights, ABS, more underseat storage and a stronger engine. And quite a bit smoother and quieter. It will get a Topcase installed next week when it gets it's first inspection.
@@walidovicvald2978 Both SYM and Kymco ar Taiwanese manufacturers. Which happen to have factorys in Mainland China. But they deliver quality rather than crap. The only time my Kymco's didn't start was when either the battery was death or one time a blown fuse. And i had a broken luggage Hook on my bigger Kymco due to my own stupidity 😅.
@@walidovicvald2978 the nearest Honda and Yamaha Dealership to me are 40km away. The dealer i got the Sym from is about 12km away. They also have Suzuki, KTM and Husqvarna.
I totally agree with your selection and I really love the Piaggio and it looks and big wheels and good storage. I think big weekend scooters are so much better. Thank you for the great review 😊.
I have a 125cc Medley 17 plate and 50200 miles the head gasket has just gone. Was hoping to get well over 60k as I maintain it better than most do. I am disappointed for this to happen. The scooter is in excellent condition so I will be dropping a second hand engine in it, but altogether it another £850 to £900 with labour etc. I also own the 21 plate Medley which has done 17k. I now wait to see if the 21 plate engine gets further than the 17 plate. I do over 20000 miles a year so wont be too long for an update.
How do you find the Medley from a getting dirty point of view when its raining or the roads are filthy, this is something that doesn't seem to be mentioned much in the reviews and for me is crucial to looking after bikes. Great that you are getting some big miles in on yours.
For me most of the scooters selected are small touring motorcycles wannabe scooters look wise at least. I prefer retro looks. Having said that if I were to go for a modern look it would be your first choice especially at that price. What did surprise me was the Suzuki for a no frills commuter its an excellent scooter. Maybe just maybe Im giving my age away. My favs price not to be considered is the Vespa and Lambretta.
For me the Honda PCX was the best one for me, It tickes off all my boxes, I needed storage, It have loades, then added topbox saddelbags, a fishingrod thing on the side for a walkin cain, high windshield, hand guards like on a motocross, gps system, alarm system and tracking. I go about 52km/l to 75km/l (really good range)fully loaded. extra lights in the topbox, floodlight on the side. plenty fast 0-60km/t 115km/t on the top but I wouldent do that.
About to go pick up APC x But I've been riding Chinese 150s For a couple years and I've gone through 2 that cost me less than $200 a piece they've got their problems but are good for the money
Tried the SR 125 and PCX, but would like to try also the Medley. Those interested can check all my scooter content. :) A great video. Straight to the point. I enjoyed. Keep going.
I bought a new Piaggio Medley 125 in April 2021 and, following a very grim first 3-4 months, it's been great. The problem I had was that the engine warning light came on after about 100 miles on the clock. Contacted the dealer who said to bring it in, by which time the light was off. This happened intermittently for 3-4 months involving 3 returns to the dealer before the problem was eventually rectified (a software update issue or something). During this time, it has to be said I was pretty unhappy with it and the dealer. However, since the software issue was corrected, it has been excellent. The bike has terrific acceleration and will hit 70 mph at the drop of a hat. Storage is excellent and I now have a top box on order ready for the summer. The only other negative is that occasionally the glove box cover on the rear of the leg shield drops open during transit, a little unnerving when you're not expecting it and you have to get it back in place!
As owner of Yamaha N-Max i must agree with You. Cons: Same engine in R-125 has full 15BHP vs 12BHP in N-Max Storage underseat fit only one full helmet or two open helmets Poor wind/rain protection (knees, arms, shoulders and head) with standard size windscreen. And 6.5 litre tank can be bigger Pros: Amazing fuel economy in town ABS in standard Great handling in wind, rain (but i change tyres in mine to all season one) Suspension is firm but comfortable Very nimble but stable at slow speed - You can crawl for miles, without put feet on ground One of biggest leg room on 125cc bikes
I have the Nmax 155 and it has 15.1hp and 7.1L tank it flies on the highway, I am heavy lad but still gets up to 110km + you guys in UK are getting ripped off stuck With the 125cc version
@@70Dazky Not really - driving licence A1 only allows to 125cc max. So capacity is not a issue. No need heavier less efficient 155cc engine. Just silly decision of Yamaha to cut off power of this engine to 9 kW. Same 9kW engine is fitted to Xmax as well. Same engine is in R125 - but there Yamaha decide to unlock full 11kW... So they can do it. Honda or Aprillia has 11kW in their 125cc scooters. Power 11kw = 15BHP, 9kW = 12BHP
I´m a little surprised you didn´t put the Forza in. Yes, you said "no maxi scooters" but it is the direct competitor to the NMax... But okay, it´s nice for a change not so see a Honda at the top spot ;)
Actually the Medley will not get anywhere near 70 mph as it has an rpm restrictor at 111 kph indicated (103 GPS) so while it will accelerate faster than the PCX it will not have a higher top speed than around 63 mph max, which makes the PCX equal to it. So the only advantage of the Medley is the under seat storage, but the PCX is a better overall scooter with higher fuel efficiency, comfort and reliability. That is why a new Medley is heavily discounted while the PCX is not.
Nice video. Its a good time for me, cos my 20 year old 2 stroke just died a death finally, and I've been really torn between the SR GT 125 and the Italjet Dragster. I'm thinking I'm gonna go for the SR after giving it a lot of thought.
to be fair though, the PCX got even much better with the 2023 model. It´s got the 14.5hp engine now, same as the Forza and ABS+TC are a HUGE plus at that prize. But I agree, the design of the SR GT is very appealing. Me being rather short, I´d go with the PCX personally.
It may be your top 10 but putting the SH125i at six is nonsense, it has more power than the PCX, ABS on both front and rear wheels unlike the PCX, has larger wheels that give better ride quality than the PCX. It has a flat floor and hook to carry a bag unlike the PCX which makes it easier to get on and off and is one of the best selling scooters in Europe. When I choose to buy a 125 scooter I looked at plenty but for me the one that stood head and shoulders above the others in features, build quality and practicality was the SH125i and personally I like the styling and the red colour I chose. If you are going to do these top 10 best scooters vids then maybe use a few people instead of the opinion of just one person that really means nothing.
Nice Top 10 list. Tiny request for future tests: Please check suitability of any scooter you get for tall people. For me it seems scooters are not made for tall people. I'm 193cm height and it's quite difficult to find a 125cc scooter which fits for me. Thanks.
You should look into the vespa gts 125 range then bud, I'm 190cm in height and find it to be really comfortable, loads of leg room and super comfortable!
@@skulkauk Thansk for your hint. I prefer Scooters with big wheesl (16" or 14"). Today I was sitting t on a Kymco New People S 200i ABS, which seems to have loads of leg room. Test ride wasn't possible today but this is planned as soon as the Kymco dealer has a New People S 200i ABS availabe for test ride.
What's the best bike to do the Knowledge for London black cab I don't know much about bikes but so far think it's Honda SH 125 considering I'm going to do lot of riding on the road
Do you keep up with available scooters in Philippines? Not many choices for 125cc “maxi” style with extended leg room as well as floorboard for transporting larger items. The new Burgman EX isn’t real powerful but checks those boxes. Owners rave about cruising seat comfort on long rides and no overheat issues. Now has silent start, 12” rear wheel and start stop tech. Without some upgrades like ABS but at 93K pesos the price is attractive. Any advice? Thanks for this nice video!
My pick is the Yamaha BMS 125 in black, looks great love the flat floor for caring things like getting gas for the just put a 20 liter gas container between your legs. the trunk is a good size, and comes with a rear rick all ready to add a top box Priced at 4,699 Canadian rated for 103 mpg ( 2.28 liters per 100 km.) and a 1.6 gal gas tank 6.06 liters. should give good range. Did have the Yamaha 400 Majesty and loved it but for country living I will take the Yamaha BMS 125. as I have a CB500X for long highway drives. Good video but we have different needs for a scooter.
Thanks for the video very informative, I've been on bikes and have only ever had one scooter which was in the mid 60s , these scooters are very eco and futuristic looking , I think A B S on a scooter should be a must , especially with scooters having smaller wheels in most cases .
The overall best is the Honda Forza, but the best on its price is the PCX. The Medley is very beautiful, has a big storage under the seat, but the seat is not comfortable and its not on the technical high than Honda.
This NEW HONDA PCX 125cc Slimmer Face looked very, very ELEGANT, HOPE there's also a Metalic Blue and Grey colors to let us choose the best at least 3 different colors of New PCX 125cc versions!!
What would you recommend for longer commuting distances in between cities? When speeds around 55mph are needed to feel safe in traffic? I prrsonaly dont mind style of the medley but im little bit woried about weather protection.
Forza 125 is one of the best performing 125s. 15hp, and wet weight of 161kg. Reviews suggest 60mph cruising is comfortably achieved. Fairing and electric windscreen suggest good weather protection.
In Turkey, black market people buy and sell honda pcx 125 cc scooters instead of gold silver and stock market, it is impossible to find in the market this much valuable, I recommend a super scooter
Your chioces of top ten are great.I ride a forza 125, not in your top ten as its more of maxi scooter. Looking at your top ten I think I would love to buy the aprila 125, but what puts me of is there isn't any ABS, yet they added track controle, doesnt make sense.They should have push it a little for the ABS .That siad I think I would still consider it, Should it get an update in the future to ABS.I would class it number 1 in the top ten of 2024 If it got the update to ABS alongside the track controle. just my opinion given its looks and specs. I am surprised you didnt include the all new ADV sym 125 has ABS track controle 15ltr fule tank cabaility of road on road fantastic looks its a all rounder number one contender as well
@@BikeMatters I would go as far as to say they are 'overlooked'. Look at the biking media and it is either Chinese cheapies, expensive Japs, or 'classics'. They are mentioned but not as much as they should. PS As an aside Piaggio need to put the Beverly's 400cc motor in a long wheel base classic.........
Best 125 scooter is the grand filano. Practicality is excellent, very reliable and excellent fuel economy. But if your ego over rides practicality then ride your dream.
I need a question answered I have a 2015 kypco scooter 125cc I'm putting unleaded plus can I upgraded to super unleaded or just leave it alone thank you
Hi my name is Matty. I do own a Chinese scooter. Not bad runner it's called direct bikes DB125 does get me about. What would you recommend for a commuter to getting to work and home?
The thing that struck me as an obvious fault in your number one pick is that it has no windshield. I could understand that feature on the Vespa, for "style" reasons, but the Piaggio ought not be governed by that particular consideration. It's a feature of importance for any scooter actually being used for commuting.
The Aura is great when you buy it new but the reliabilty doesn't compare to a Yamaha or Honda. I did 17k on my Aura in 18 months, it started chewing belts on the regular no matter what parts I changed, at one point I did the clutch, variator and belt, 600 miles later, another one gone. The switch to turn the bike on was dodgy at times, batteries in the FOB would drain between 2 weeks and 6 months. The tyres are deadly in winter conditions, so throw another £120 on for a good set of rubber. The handlebars were slightly off centre which was annoying. A creak in the front end developed after 6 months which I never found a solution for. The fuel gauge stopped working after 12 months, had to rely on trip meter and fill up at 160 miles.The engine side of things, no real complaints, it's just everything else attached to it which is lacking in quality. I've since purchsed a 2023 ex demo PCX with 800 miles on. Wow, what a bike. A literal jetski on wheels. The quality difference is instantly noticable. I've not had the bike for long enough to compare any long term issues but first impressions fill me with confidence.
I have had a nmax for two years. It's great but the key can go wrong. Also the mechanism can cause a fault in the battery. Changing to a suzuki which is sad but after two years of non stop use It's time to replace it .
i am thinking the Piaggio is probably the one for me ,i assume twist and go i am a very fit 74 year old looking for something to have abit of fun with,do you think this suits me,cheers mate great video,i was getting talked into a 50 cc bike but i was not happy after a test drive,.
I’m disabled by my neck, my Subaru 03 Forester after perfect care fell victim to the apparently well known head gasket issue, ruined engine, very, very angry. Despite the danger of scooters, I’m thinking of switching as my budget before I can access any retirement funds is tight..I’m thinking of a 125cc Honda or Yamaha..
@@johncspine2787 Thanks for message john,I have had quite a lot of different cars over the years but never a subaru ,so have no knowledge of them apart from they look quite smart,I had a 125 cc suszuki van van a few years ago and loved it,but we had builders here doing an extension and i got concerned the bike would be ruined because it would have been in the garage that was part of the work ,so i got rid of it and thought that was me done with bikes ,But recently changed my mind yet again ,and wanted a scooter ,but you know what perhaps another 125 cc honda ,thank for post bfn pete from newark.
@ 74. ( Im 72) Get the Yam 300 3 wheeler. . I'm tempted to get the new Honda 3 wheeler 500cc and Tour EU no Motorbike licence. .my need a 300cc badge lol.
the burgman 125 is not highly regarded by us in Europe because it derives from cheap scooters for India such as the address 125, but with a maxi scooter type body. It has a basic chassis, a less powerful engine, very small wheels. At a price of only 300 euros less than the PCX it doesn't sell anything
great video, I do not agree with nr1. nr 2 or nr3 is the nr 1 the vespa is the pretty girl in th class. the yamaha is the smart sporty. for me the PCX was the right one. I have It fully loaded out as a surpport bike. GPS, saddelbags, topbog, first aid kids I can carry alot. They call it the donky might not be fast but can take the load. 55km/l to 75 km/l with full load (driver + load about 300kg)
I had a Honda pcx 125 2015 model before which was quality but looking to get another one but can't decide between a yamaha nmax, sym jet x, aprillia sr gt, or getting another Honda pcx.
What about Taiwanese Sym and Kymco scooters? For example, Sym Jet 4 RX 125? There are also top scooters like Honda Click 125i, and Yamaha Mio Gear S 125, Yamaha Cygnus Gryphus 125.
What's your favourite 125cc Scooter let us know in the comments below!
What do think of the Imola 125, is Mondial reliable?
Nr.1 should be PCX then Nmax, SH, Vespa, etc.
I Will like yo bye one
Only PCX
Wottan 125 R N°1
Totally agree with the Medley at number 1. Owned one for 6 months and travelled over 3,000 miles. MPG @ 120 and phenomenal reliability. Slim body makes it easy to filter and the lights are amazing. Local dealer is the icing on the cake. 2 year warranty and 12 months breakdown assistance. Why wouldn't you buy one. Love it. Beverly 400 next.
I’ve owned a Beverly 400, heavy at 190 Kg but a really good machine for motorway journeys. Top speed about 95 MPH and twin pipes !
Beverly is awesome but I'd still get Burgman over it.
Medley 125 or Honda SH125i/SH150i? Does Medley offer enough space for tall people?
Depreciation is a huge (mostly overlooked) cost of scooter ownership and out of the top 10, it’s really only the Honda PCX and the Yamaha NMax (and possibly the Vespa) that maintains reasonable resale values.
I agree, people never take into consideration what it's worth when you finally sell it.
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Or a wide network of techs.
Honda and Yamaha are worldwide.
Bought the Medley 150 last year. Best purchase ever. The 125 would be more than sufficient as well I think, as these engines develop lots of torque at the rear wheel.
Honda PCX from my 8000 kilometres over one year experience. I am sure the other scooters are good too, and I have averaged 125mpg (52 Kilometres per litre) over one year.
Having ridden honda scooters for years, I've got to say that the drum brake is brilliant on the back wheel. It's saved me a few times, where it tends to slide your back end instead of grabbing it. And this tendency to rely on the front disc can get you splattered. Also I got the conjoined brakes separated, Now I can use the back brake for slipping through traffick. Throttle and back brake only makes for no wobble, Got that tip from a police bike rider, try it.
It's easy to tune your disk brakes by changing the pads. There's nothing inherently superior about drum brakes except they used to cost the manufacturer less to produce than disc brakes. And in the old days the pad materials used to be more sensitive to water splashing so the drums could survive a puddle or two better than unshielded disc brakes. But the drums also hold water in longer once it's inside. But ever since materials have improved there's no real place for drum brakes on any motor vehicle. I guess they want to have upgrade talking points and put the drum brakes on the lower-priced models.
I own a SR GT. With 190cm/6.2 feet, SR GT's clearance of the ground and size really helps me get comfy, I'd recommend nothing else if you are like me.
Rode it. A great machine. A very Italian machine. Drop by to check it among content. :)
As someone who has owned Euro 5 versions of the Piaggio Medley and the Honda PCX I would like to add to your assessment of these scooters. The Medley has a slightly more informative display showing 2 trip meters ( 1 for the PCX) and also ambient air temperature. As you say the Medley produces 15BHP with a top speed of 70 MPH versus the PCX’s 12.5 BHP and 65 MPH. It also has a slightly greater amount of underseat storage although the PCX still has room for a full face helmet + room for gloves etc. The PCX however outshines the Medley in other ways, if looks are important the PCX wins hands down. It’s fuel consumption is at least 20% better than the Medley and is considerably lighter (about 30 Kg). I’m 5’7” and sitting on the PCX I can get my feet flat on the ground, on the Medley I could not achieve that level of control. The turning circle of the PCX is better and manoeuvring on a gravel driveway is far easier on the PCX. Likewise putting the bike on the centre stand is easier with the PCX. The PCX consistently outsells not only the Medley but all other scooters and powered two wheelers in the UK, I don’t think those consumers have got it wrong. One final point in my experience both bikes handle superbly and are ideal for the twisty A and B roads in my area.
I’m 5’7” and sitting on the PCX I can get my feet flat on the ground, on the Medley I could not achieve that level of control, is that the same as saying your too short for the Piaggio?
PCX 125 kerb weight list at 130kg. Medley at 132kg. Where’s the 30kg difference?
It's simply ugly sorry. Looks like moped.
I have a pcx as well and agree with you, going to forza soon, better on the highway
The Jet X is simply the best looking scooter out there. I absolutely love mine ❤🔥
Thanks for the comment!
After just quitting my job and giving back my company car I feel it’s the right time to get a scooter for my new daily commute. I’ve never rode a scooter or motorcycle before, always had cars, and it daunts me a little bit…I’m almost 60 years old now and all I need is reliability and good economy. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
This is perfectly timed for me, taking my cbt at the end of January and trying to decide what to get for after then. This is certainly helpful ☺
Brilliant news, I'm glad it was helpful! We have other top 10s and scooter reviews too that might interest you!
@@BikeMatters I have seen quite a few ☺
Brilliant, thanks for supporting the channel!
Get yourself a Piaggio Liberty S….simple air cooled engine, single overhead camshaft with 3 valve’s, it’s comfortable and cool looking.
@@paulsymonds820 Hello, thank you for the suggestion, only difficulty is the nearest dealer is over an hour away from where I live. I will think.
Had my 2016 Lexmoto FMS 125 for four years now,it's been brilliant, will do an indicated 65 mph which is not bad for a 125cc engine, If you look after them, wife them down and clean them regularly they will last.
i have just bought one after long research which was including this well made video!!! same colour blue and grey. Piaggio medley 125
Good choice! I hope you get on very well with it! Cracking scooter.
I m 79 , been riding bikes most of my life . In recent years changed to a PCX. The Shi , Vespa , Suzuki Address and Medley are attractive to my age because the hump in the middle can be annoying.
Useful info.
Your spot on regards not much between the top 3 to be fair, however id have reversed the order of the top 3.. pcx number 1!!
I bought a Sym Jet 14LC in february. It's a replacement for the Kymco Agility City 125 I had for nearly 14 years. Way better lights, ABS, more underseat storage and a stronger engine. And quite a bit smoother and quieter. It will get a Topcase installed next week when it gets it's first inspection.
new kymco's are beasts
I don't trust Chinese scooters reliability can you tell us about it please
@@walidovicvald2978 Both SYM and Kymco ar Taiwanese manufacturers. Which happen to have factorys in Mainland China. But they deliver quality rather than crap. The only time my Kymco's didn't start was when either the battery was death or one time a blown fuse. And i had a broken luggage Hook on my bigger Kymco due to my own stupidity 😅.
@@franzjaegers but the problem for me is their prices are similar to Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha so ppl will always choose these brands rather than SYM
@@walidovicvald2978 the nearest Honda and Yamaha Dealership to me are 40km away. The dealer i got the Sym from is about 12km away. They also have Suzuki, KTM and Husqvarna.
got the honda forza 125 special edition, just love it
I totally agree with your selection and I really love the Piaggio and it looks and big wheels and good storage. I think big weekend scooters are so much better. Thank you for the great review 😊.
He didn’t even mention the Yamaha x max and the honda forza125 the best and most selling in Europe 😂😂
I have a 125cc Medley 17 plate and 50200 miles the head gasket has just gone. Was hoping to get well over 60k as I maintain it better than most do. I am disappointed for this to happen. The scooter is in excellent condition so I will be dropping a second hand engine in it, but altogether it another £850 to £900 with labour etc. I also own the 21 plate Medley which has done 17k. I now wait to see if the 21 plate engine gets further than the 17 plate. I do over 20000 miles a year so wont be too long for an update.
How do you find the Medley from a getting dirty point of view when its raining or the roads are filthy, this is something that doesn't seem to be mentioned much in the reviews and for me is crucial to looking after bikes. Great that you are getting some big miles in on yours.
Aprilia SR GT is No1 so far ! ! I have the SR GT 200 Sport Red color , its fantastic and very very powerfull ! !
I wish they had the 200 but only stock 125
Is the bike reliable?
Rode the 125. Would love to try also the 200 cc model. Drop by to check my content. You may like it. :)
Lucky for me, my nearest dealer holds THREE of your top four choices in one place! Aprilia, Yamaha and Piaggio 👍🏻
Very nice! That's pretty cool
I sat on the Aprilia sport and felt so great hard to get off and the styling is jaw dropping
😊👍🏻
For me most of the scooters selected are small touring motorcycles wannabe scooters look wise at least. I prefer retro looks. Having said that if I were to go for a modern look it would be your first choice especially at that price. What did surprise me was the Suzuki for a no frills commuter its an excellent scooter. Maybe just maybe Im giving my age away. My favs price not to be considered is the Vespa and Lambretta.
For me the Honda PCX was the best one for me, It tickes off all my boxes, I needed storage, It have loades, then added topbox saddelbags, a fishingrod thing on the side for a walkin cain, high windshield, hand guards like on a motocross, gps system, alarm system and tracking. I go about 52km/l to 75km/l (really good range)fully loaded. extra lights in the topbox, floodlight on the side. plenty fast 0-60km/t 115km/t on the top but I wouldent do that.
I have a Honda Sh125i which is great. Only slight issue i have is it is hard to get muffs to fit the handlebars.
About to go pick up APC x But I've been riding Chinese 150s For a couple years and I've gone through 2 that cost me less than $200 a piece they've got their problems but are good for the money
Tried the SR 125 and PCX, but would like to try also the Medley. Those interested can check all my scooter content. :) A great video. Straight to the point. I enjoyed. Keep going.
Whichever doesn't have Start-Stop tech, is winner for me
I bought a new Piaggio Medley 125 in April 2021 and, following a very grim first 3-4 months, it's been great. The problem I had was that the engine warning light came on after about 100 miles on the clock. Contacted the dealer who said to bring it in, by which time the light was off. This happened intermittently for 3-4 months involving 3 returns to the dealer before the problem was eventually rectified (a software update issue or something). During this time, it has to be said I was pretty unhappy with it and the dealer. However, since the software issue was corrected, it has been excellent. The bike has terrific acceleration and will hit 70 mph at the drop of a hat. Storage is excellent and I now have a top box on order ready for the summer. The only other negative is that occasionally the glove box cover on the rear of the leg shield drops open during transit, a little unnerving when you're not expecting it and you have to get it back in place!
Piaggio is great, apart from the fact that it breaks after 100 miles 🤣🤣🤣🤣. PCX will simply NEVER break, it just goes on and on, and on.
As owner of Yamaha N-Max i must agree with You.
Cons:
Same engine in R-125 has full 15BHP vs 12BHP in N-Max
Storage underseat fit only one full helmet or two open helmets
Poor wind/rain protection (knees, arms, shoulders and head) with standard size windscreen.
And 6.5 litre tank can be bigger
Pros:
Amazing fuel economy in town
ABS in standard
Great handling in wind, rain (but i change tyres in mine to all season one)
Suspension is firm but comfortable
Very nimble but stable at slow speed - You can crawl for miles, without put feet on ground
One of biggest leg room on 125cc bikes
I have the Nmax 155 and it has 15.1hp and 7.1L tank it flies on the highway, I am heavy lad but still gets up to 110km + you guys in UK are getting ripped off stuck With the 125cc version
@@70Dazky Not really - driving licence A1 only allows to 125cc max. So capacity is not a issue. No need heavier less efficient 155cc engine.
Just silly decision of Yamaha to cut off power of this engine to 9 kW.
Same 9kW engine is fitted to Xmax as well.
Same engine is in R125 - but there Yamaha decide to unlock full 11kW... So they can do it.
Honda or Aprillia has 11kW in their 125cc scooters.
Power 11kw = 15BHP, 9kW = 12BHP
Lived in Vietnam for 5 years and had a Yamaha NVX. I'm actually surprised to see it didn't make your list. It's called an Aero in some other counties.
I´m a little surprised you didn´t put the Forza in. Yes, you said "no maxi scooters" but it is the direct competitor to the NMax...
But okay, it´s nice for a change not so see a Honda at the top spot ;)
Actually the Medley will not get anywhere near 70 mph as it has an rpm restrictor at 111 kph indicated (103 GPS) so while it will accelerate faster than the PCX it will not have a higher top speed than around 63 mph max, which makes the PCX equal to it. So the only advantage of the Medley is the under seat storage, but the PCX is a better overall scooter with higher fuel efficiency, comfort and reliability. That is why a new Medley is heavily discounted while the PCX is not.
That Start/Stop technology will wear out your battery, starter motor and engine neglecting any tiny increase in fuel economy.
Never used the start stop, mine has been turned off on my Nmax since I bought the scooter , almost 6000km.
Nice video. Its a good time for me, cos my 20 year old 2 stroke just died a death finally, and I've been really torn between the SR GT 125 and the Italjet Dragster. I'm thinking I'm gonna go for the SR after giving it a lot of thought.
Had a PCX in the past which was a great scoot, but my current ride, the Aprilia SR GT, edges it in terms of handling, performance and looks
to be fair though, the PCX got even much better with the 2023 model. It´s got the 14.5hp engine now, same as the Forza and ABS+TC are a HUGE plus at that prize.
But I agree, the design of the SR GT is very appealing. Me being rather short, I´d go with the PCX personally.
It may be your top 10 but putting the SH125i at six is nonsense, it has more power than the PCX, ABS on both front and rear wheels unlike the PCX, has larger wheels that give better ride quality than the PCX. It has a flat floor and hook to carry a bag unlike the PCX which makes it easier to get on and off and is one of the best selling scooters in Europe. When I choose to buy a 125 scooter I looked at plenty but for me the one that stood head and shoulders above the others in features, build quality and practicality was the SH125i and personally I like the styling and the red colour I chose. If you are going to do these top 10 best scooters vids then maybe use a few people instead of the opinion of just one person that really means nothing.
Fancy someone thinking that their bike is the best. Maybe it is.
Does it have much underseat room?
@@SuperRichie200 yes the new model had the fuel tank moved to the front so there’s plenty
The SH125i (mine is 2022) is The Best. It may not be as pretty as a pcx, but who looks at the mantelpiece when poking the fire😂
What do you think of the 2023 PCX? It does seem to have improved significantly now.
Nice Top 10 list.
Tiny request for future tests: Please check suitability of any scooter you get for tall people. For me it seems scooters are not made for tall people. I'm 193cm height and it's quite difficult to find a 125cc scooter which fits for me. Thanks.
You should look into the vespa gts 125 range then bud, I'm 190cm in height and find it to be really comfortable, loads of leg room and super comfortable!
@@skulkauk Thansk for your hint. I prefer Scooters with big wheesl (16" or 14"). Today I was sitting t on a Kymco New People S 200i ABS, which seems to have loads of leg room. Test ride wasn't possible today but this is planned as soon as the Kymco dealer has a New People S 200i ABS availabe for test ride.
For me is best money/value/quality Honda PCX
What's the best bike to do the Knowledge for London black cab I don't know much about bikes but so far think it's Honda SH 125 considering I'm going to do lot of riding on the road
I own Piaggio Medley 125cc, im more than satisfied with torque, top speed and storage.
Do you keep up with available scooters in Philippines? Not many choices for 125cc “maxi” style with extended leg room as well as floorboard for transporting larger items. The new Burgman EX isn’t real powerful but checks those boxes. Owners rave about cruising seat comfort on long rides and no overheat issues. Now has silent start, 12” rear wheel and start stop tech. Without some upgrades like ABS but at 93K pesos the price is attractive. Any advice? Thanks for this nice video!
Piaggio-liberty-125-s. great price and general all rounder. What do you think.
Yeah still stuck on 3 options either cheaper or the best nmax,pcx & jet x dunno what to pick
Mine is sym jet 4 125cc I’ve had mine for 2months 3years now soon I’m going to be upgrading my bike to a sym jet 14 125cc
My pick is the Yamaha BMS 125 in black, looks great love the flat floor for caring things like getting gas for the just put a 20 liter gas container between your legs. the trunk is a good size, and comes with a rear rick all ready to add a top box Priced at 4,699 Canadian rated for 103 mpg ( 2.28 liters per 100 km.) and a 1.6 gal gas tank 6.06 liters. should give good range. Did have the Yamaha 400 Majesty and loved it but for country living I will take the Yamaha BMS 125. as I have a CB500X for long highway drives. Good video but we have different needs for a scooter.
Thanks for the video very informative, I've been on bikes and have only ever had one scooter which was in the mid 60s , these scooters are very eco and futuristic looking , I think A B S on a scooter should be a must , especially with scooters having smaller wheels in most cases .
1Forza 2 X max 3 Nmax 4pcx 5 Medley 6Aprilia 7Sym
Thank you so much, really needed this
Very good reviews, enjoyed the video….subscribed.
Glad you enjoyed!
Where's the Honda Forza? that is better than all of these lol. Got mine coming this week :)
Let's be honest, the only one proven to reach 100,000 km is the PCX. Buy a scooter with second hand spare partes available or you'll struggle alot
Hi what scooter would be best for me n my father we live down in Cornwall which has lots of hills thanks
The overall best is the Honda Forza, but the best on its price is the PCX. The Medley is very beautiful, has a big storage under the seat, but the seat is not comfortable and its not on the technical high than Honda.
pcx Honda the Best...awesome facelift and dash board.
This NEW HONDA PCX 125cc Slimmer Face looked very, very ELEGANT, HOPE there's also a Metalic Blue and Grey colors to let us choose the best at least 3 different colors of New PCX 125cc versions!!
Surprised once again you overlook the Peugeot Pulsion, GT or Allure, it's an amazing bike.
Love the Piaggio , from albania
What would you recommend for longer commuting distances in between cities? When speeds around 55mph are needed to feel safe in traffic? I prrsonaly dont mind style of the medley but im little bit woried about weather protection.
Forza 125 is one of the best performing 125s. 15hp, and wet weight of 161kg. Reviews suggest 60mph cruising is comfortably achieved. Fairing and electric windscreen suggest good weather protection.
In Turkey, black market people buy and sell honda pcx 125 cc scooters instead of gold silver and stock market, it is impossible to find in the market this much valuable, I recommend a super scooter
Are you aware of RKS NEWLIGHT 125 PRO. Awesome design and stylish.
Rear drum brake on the PCX still? Wow, Honda it's 2023 mate!
Got my CBT tmr wish me luck
Best of luck, let us know how you get on!
@@BikeMatters passed it was great
Great news!
absolute fantastic.
Thanks for the comment.
Your chioces of top ten are great.I ride a forza 125, not in your top ten as its more of maxi scooter. Looking at your top ten I think I would love to buy the aprila 125, but what puts me of is there isn't any ABS, yet they added track controle, doesnt make sense.They should have push it a little for the ABS .That siad I think I would still consider it, Should it get an update in the future to ABS.I would class it number 1 in the top ten of 2024 If it got the update to ABS alongside the track controle. just my opinion given its looks and specs.
I am surprised you didnt include the all new ADV sym 125 has ABS track controle 15ltr fule tank cabaility of road on road fantastic looks its a all rounder number one contender as well
How does the suzuki burgman 125 compare with the pcx and nmax?
Yay for Piaggio!
Well deserved I reckon!
@@BikeMatters I would go as far as to say they are 'overlooked'. Look at the biking media and it is either Chinese cheapies, expensive Japs, or 'classics'. They are mentioned but not as much as they should.
PS As an aside Piaggio need to put the Beverly's 400cc motor in a long wheel base classic.........
It's funny you say that last bit, stay tuned as I have recorded a video all about that very subject! Should be within the next 3 weeks.
Brett
@@BikeMatters I am subbed. 🙂
Glad I'm not alone in thinking the 400 would be awesome in a Vespa
Best 125 scooter is the grand filano. Practicality is excellent, very reliable and excellent fuel economy.
But if your ego over rides practicality then ride your dream.
I need a question answered I have a 2015 kypco scooter 125cc I'm putting unleaded plus can I upgraded to super unleaded or just leave it alone thank you
Pcx is number one
Hi my name is Matty. I do own a Chinese scooter. Not bad runner it's called direct bikes DB125 does get me about. What would you recommend for a commuter to getting to work and home?
The thing that struck me as an obvious fault in your number one pick is that it has no windshield. I could understand that feature on the Vespa, for "style" reasons, but the Piaggio ought not be governed by that particular consideration. It's a feature of importance for any scooter actually being used for commuting.
Is there Kymco Super Dink 125cc in UK? I think it is the 125cc version of Downtown.
The Aura is great when you buy it new but the reliabilty doesn't compare to a Yamaha or Honda. I did 17k on my Aura in 18 months, it started chewing belts on the regular no matter what parts I changed, at one point I did the clutch, variator and belt, 600 miles later, another one gone. The switch to turn the bike on was dodgy at times, batteries in the FOB would drain between 2 weeks and 6 months. The tyres are deadly in winter conditions, so throw another £120 on for a good set of rubber. The handlebars were slightly off centre which was annoying. A creak in the front end developed after 6 months which I never found a solution for. The fuel gauge stopped working after 12 months, had to rely on trip meter and fill up at 160 miles.The engine side of things, no real complaints, it's just everything else attached to it which is lacking in quality.
I've since purchsed a 2023 ex demo PCX with 800 miles on. Wow, what a bike. A literal jetski on wheels. The quality difference is instantly noticable. I've not had the bike for long enough to compare any long term issues but first impressions fill me with confidence.
my 125 scooter is an a8 nas is it good
which one is better for a short rider (5.2) ? im thinking to go for a yamaha nmax
Try to check them out in person.
They don't make xmax 125 or forza 125 this year ? Was expecting those two on the list
Hey, both are great but as I say at the beginning of the video this does not included 125cc maxi's as I'll cover that in a separate video.
@@BikeMatters guess I didn't pay enough attention sry
honda pcx 125 is the best in the class!
I'm a little sad with the quote from Lexham on a new pcx125......I have held a full clean licence for 38 years and the cheapest quote was £513 😂😂😂😂
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I have had a nmax for two years. It's great but the key can go wrong. Also the mechanism can cause a fault in the battery. Changing to a suzuki which is sad but after two years of non stop use It's time to replace it .
IV got full car licence and used to have a 100cc moped. Am I allowed legally to drive a 125 cc scooter or motorcycle please
i am thinking the Piaggio is probably the one for me ,i assume twist and go i am a very fit 74 year old looking for something to have abit of fun with,do you think this suits me,cheers mate great video,i was getting talked into a 50 cc bike but i was not happy after a test drive,.
I’m disabled by my neck, my Subaru 03 Forester after perfect care fell victim to the apparently well known head gasket issue, ruined engine, very, very angry. Despite the danger of scooters, I’m thinking of switching as my budget before I can access any retirement funds is tight..I’m thinking of a 125cc Honda or Yamaha..
@@johncspine2787 Thanks for message john,I have had quite a lot of different cars over the years but never a subaru ,so have no knowledge of them apart from they look quite smart,I had a 125 cc suszuki van van a few years ago and loved it,but we had builders here doing an extension and i got concerned the bike would be ruined because it would have been in the garage that was part of the work ,so i got rid of it and thought that was me done with bikes ,But recently changed my mind yet again ,and wanted a scooter ,but you know what perhaps another 125 cc honda ,thank for post bfn pete from newark.
@ 74. ( Im 72) Get the Yam 300 3 wheeler. . I'm tempted to get the new Honda 3 wheeler 500cc and Tour EU no Motorbike licence. .my need a 300cc badge lol.
Sym jet x 125❤
Great vid.
Thanks!
Honda sh125... Its a bomb proof bike... You cant kill it
Honda reliability every time over the Piaggio. That's been my experience of both manufacturers.
Real world ownership of Honda far better than Piaggio.
Hi what do you think about Suzuki burgman street 125cc ??
the burgman 125 is not highly regarded by us in Europe because it derives from cheap scooters for India such as the address 125, but with a maxi scooter type body. It has a basic chassis, a less powerful engine, very small wheels. At a price of only 300 euros less than the PCX it doesn't sell anything
We need a drive license motorcycle for scooter?
It should be at number 1 spot
Favourite scooter for me Zontes M 125
I'm 6 ft 225 and first time rider is 125 too small for me should I go with Yamaha 300 tech max or honda adv350?
Honda forza 300 or 350 would be great for u
Kymco Should have been on the list at least at 9 or 10
It's so weird to watch PCX and Nmax in 125cc group, here in Indonesia ours are 160 and 155cc respectively. Yes, Nmax also more popular here than PCX
Google the nmax specs and xmax 125 specs and you'll be surprised...you overlooked some facts in your review
great video, I do not agree with nr1. nr 2 or nr3 is the nr 1 the vespa is the pretty girl in th class. the yamaha is the smart sporty.
for me the PCX was the right one. I have It fully loaded out as a surpport bike. GPS, saddelbags, topbog, first aid kids I can carry alot. They call it the donky might not be fast but can take the load. 55km/l to 75 km/l with full load (driver + load about 300kg)
I had a Honda pcx 125 2015 model before which was quality but looking to get another one but can't decide between a yamaha nmax, sym jet x, aprillia sr gt, or getting another Honda pcx.
I have the sym, and its a really good choice.
PCX or foza . Don't go out from Honda
just get another PCX but in a different colour that's what I've done got the 22 plate the keyless ignition & other updates make it worth while,,
Like the number 1 .
What about Taiwanese Sym and Kymco scooters? For example, Sym Jet 4 RX 125?
There are also top scooters like Honda Click 125i, and Yamaha Mio Gear S 125, Yamaha Cygnus Gryphus 125.
Sym takes a spot on the list, Kymco you might well see on my 125cc Maxi scooter list in the future!
I mixed up the Nmax with a Vmax and bought a Vmax for my mother-in-law. Sadly...
I've just got a pcx 125 scooter it's very good first Chinese scooter I've had very good and I like the phone charging compartment very good
You should have mentioned the Sinis' rear suspension.