I’ve got a massive outside to start next week. All windows took back to bare and old putty removed and redone. I havnt touched it since my apprenticeship. I didn’t realise it took that long to paint over
i was watching window specialists work the other day work or so it sad on their van while sitting in the car while missus was shopping and they were using tube putty and painting it as soon as they applied it even while they were applying it sanding while they were painting the same window etc they must make a fortune.
Yes, but with respect you are a commercial painter / decorator who clearly (and understandably) needs to be in a position to complete a job and get on to the next one. I have recently used this Toupret putty on my older property and it has been extremely good, with an excellent consistency and clearly set to last for many years. Personally I am very happy that is takes 6-8 days to firm up !
tnx, it's also weather/temperature dependant, in the summer its ready to paint in a few days. But turn around time is key for us, we use other things that are ready to paint next day though.
I think the main reason for the putty falling out over time is people don't prime first and don't go over the putty by 3/8 inch or so but originally linseed putty was designed to be used with linseed paints and you can paint over linseed putty straight away with linseed paint. with linseed putty you have to add chalk powder to make comfortable to work with
Beautiful sashes those mate and fair play if they were done 10 years ago they've held up really well. I suppose if you're decorating the rest of the room then you could prep and putty the windows, sort the rest of the room and go back to the window as the last job but yeah anything more than 12 hours is just a no-no with today's advances in our trade wether it be paint, filler, putty etc
TimbaGlaze is the way to go. Paintable in 2 hours *EDIT* lol I always comment before the end of your vids and you've just mentioned TimbaGlaze. I also used the RepairCare version but it's a slightly longer time and bloody expensive. Where do you get the Red Devil One time in a tube from? I use the pot version but never seen it gun format.
watch till the end next tme Paul lol RedDevil one time in a tube.. is decorators caulk.... You can get it at Crown Decorator Centres - it's not the same as RedDevil light weight filler. (Wickes light weight filler is about the same as red devil but cheaper, try some of that) RC is expensive, we swapped to TimbaBuild more for the fact it can be sanded, whereas RC didn't want to be touched by any sand paper. TimbaBuild also do a fine surface filler which is handy to finish off and shape last little bits.
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator I used the Timbabuild Finish today, it's my goto for quick small filling in wood...in fact can use it on most surfaces ;)
It's like the toupret ready mix wood filler, 12 hours dry time! Powered filler is 3 hours. At leeast 6-8 days is better than traditional putty which is 30 days or so.
Traditional you can get away with as soon as it's skinned over. Next day or so when outside is ideal. Apparley this stuff is Linseed oil based with other stuff in it.
You can get a tube version, like a paintable silicone...repaircare? 2hrs.. not putty though, don't know about listed buildings.... Always read the can Phil!! Oh, it's pronounced two-pray....btw
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator no, not used that.... I did see the whole thing, just jumped in too early 🤣. I like the toupret stuff, but, I had the same trouble of time, and paid the extra to paint the same day....
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator yeah it dries up not matter how well you you seal it back up not good saving it for other jobs got to keep to shelling out if you keep buying this.
Top gun glazing putty in a mastic tube. The only one I use. I have painted it in under 4 hours. Does not shrink even when painting it before it hardened off.
@Phil Beckwith The Professional Painter & Decorator Sorry for late reply. Never used timber buider mate. It quite soft mate ,a bit like caulk but when you tool it it stays there,it don't slump
It's putty! - unless you're using linseed oil paints, 6 to 8 days is actually a very good turn around, most recommendations for linseed putty are in the region of a minimum of 2 weeks. There's no way I know of, of painting linseed putty freshly applied in a couple of days, even using whiting to speed the process of up. I've used the Timbaglaze and unless they've changed the formula in the last ten years, it's inferior to Dryseal MP.
Using water-based paint on timber windows, and on a listed building, that's definitely NOT a good idea. If you're in a rush to get the job done, don't go near older buildings.
Personally I believe listed buildings (whatever 'grade') should be matched with traditional and sympathetic materials, and modern plastic-based paints don't fall into this categorisation. I've yet to see any water-based paints hold up longer than say a couple of years on external joinery, whereas the likes of natural linseed oil based paint (when applied correctly of course) will last in excess of 5 years before it requires only simple refresh. @@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
I use exterior good quality caulk. Tape a line and build it up over two days. It will easily take a coat on day 3. Just be a little patient with a firm slightly damp sponge. Fix your putty lines before everything else and it won't hold you up. This guy talks too much.
Sorry Pal, but that camera shake is unbearable. can't watch it, was making me feel sick. please think about investing in a gyro stabilised camera. good luck with the videos.
I’ve got a massive outside to start next week. All windows took back to bare and old putty removed and redone. I havnt touched it since my apprenticeship. I didn’t realise it took that long to paint over
Can you put knotting solution on it
Not sure. Would it not dry faster than the 'putty' and crack and give a crackle effect?
i was watching window specialists work the other day work or so it sad on their van while sitting in the car while missus was shopping and they were using tube putty and painting it as soon as they applied it even while they were applying it sanding while they were painting the same window etc they must make a fortune.
Would have loved to see that.
Wonder how long it will last.
I'm sure if they had told the client another chargeable visit was required to complete, they would have thought they were being ripped off
My ordinary linseed oil putty tub says “can be painted after 28 days” ! So surely 6 days is good??
I have windows that don’t need putty, but need a clean edge. Is that what the last stuff you used is for?
whhat do you mean a clean edge?
Yes, but with respect you are a commercial painter / decorator who clearly (and understandably) needs to be in a position to complete a job and get on to the next one. I have recently used this Toupret putty on my older property and it has been extremely good, with an excellent consistency and clearly set to last for many years. Personally I am very happy that is takes 6-8 days to firm up !
tnx, it's also weather/temperature dependant, in the summer its ready to paint in a few days. But turn around time is key for us, we use other things that are ready to paint next day though.
I think the main reason for the putty falling out over time is people don't prime first and don't go over the putty by 3/8 inch or so but originally linseed putty was designed to be used with linseed paints and you can paint over linseed putty straight away with linseed paint. with linseed putty you have to add chalk powder to make comfortable to work with
Whitening
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator I use calcium carbonate ultra fine chalk powder
Bit late now. But, have you tried the repaircare one?
The TimbaCare from TimbaBuild I've used.
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 1/4 the price😁 I use timbabuild rather than repaicare but didn't know they did a glazing putty/sealant
@@mattcable6379 sorry, it's called TimbaGlaze
Beautiful sashes those mate and fair play if they were done 10 years ago they've held up really well. I suppose if you're decorating the rest of the room then you could prep and putty the windows, sort the rest of the room and go back to the window as the last job but yeah anything more than 12 hours is just a no-no with today's advances in our trade wether it be paint, filler, putty etc
correct Phil, we did have some other windows to do, but used TimbaGlaze on those as needed them doing quicker than a 6-8 day wait.
TimbaGlaze is the way to go. Paintable in 2 hours *EDIT* lol I always comment before the end of your vids and you've just mentioned TimbaGlaze. I also used the RepairCare version but it's a slightly longer time and bloody expensive. Where do you get the Red Devil One time in a tube from? I use the pot version but never seen it gun format.
watch till the end next tme Paul lol
RedDevil one time in a tube.. is decorators caulk.... You can get it at Crown Decorator Centres - it's not the same as RedDevil light weight filler.
(Wickes light weight filler is about the same as red devil but cheaper, try some of that)
RC is expensive, we swapped to TimbaBuild more for the fact it can be sanded, whereas RC didn't want to be touched by any sand paper.
TimbaBuild also do a fine surface filler which is handy to finish off and shape last little bits.
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator I used the Timbabuild Finish today, it's my goto for quick small filling in wood...in fact can use it on most surfaces ;)
It's like the toupret ready mix wood filler, 12 hours dry time! Powered filler is 3 hours. At leeast 6-8 days is better than traditional putty which is 30 days or so.
Traditional you can get away with as soon as it's skinned over. Next day or so when outside is ideal.
Apparley this stuff is Linseed oil based with other stuff in it.
You can paint it after 2-3 days its still linseed putty must have stuff added to it for ease of use
it dried off quicker in summer too
You can get a tube version, like a paintable silicone...repaircare? 2hrs.. not putty though, don't know about listed buildings.... Always read the can Phil!! Oh, it's pronounced two-pray....btw
not TWO PAY then?
Have you got to the bit in the video about TimbaGlaze? have you tried that?
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator no, not used that.... I did see the whole thing, just jumped in too early 🤣. I like the toupret stuff, but, I had the same trouble of time, and paid the extra to paint the same day....
this stuff dries in the can quite fast after being opened
like 6-8 days Jack? lol
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator yeah it dries up not matter how well you you seal it back up not good saving it for other jobs got to keep to shelling out if you keep buying this.
Repair care putty is great, but expensive……but not as expensive as time.
Top gun glazing putty in a mastic tube.
The only one I use.
I have painted it in under 4 hours.
Does not shrink even when painting it before it hardened off.
What's the make up of it? Like timbabuild?
@Phil Beckwith The Professional Painter & Decorator Sorry for late reply.
Never used timber buider mate.
It quite soft mate ,a bit like caulk but when you tool it it stays there,it don't slump
@@painterman8863 is it quite sticky?
@Phil Beckwith The Professional Painter & Decorator
yes mate.
Plasticene I use to play with as a kid, might dry quicker 😂
love it, I find playdough better though.... dries rock hard after a few hours in the open air lol
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator I meant play dough, couldn’t remember it 👍
It's putty! - unless you're using linseed oil paints, 6 to 8 days is actually a very good turn around, most recommendations for linseed putty are in the region of a minimum of 2 weeks. There's no way I know of, of painting linseed putty freshly applied in a couple of days, even using whiting to speed the process of up.
I've used the Timbaglaze and unless they've changed the formula in the last ten years, it's inferior to Dryseal MP.
weather conditions play a major part on drying times :(
At least you're working in the $$$ places
Using water-based paint on timber windows, and on a listed building, that's definitely NOT a good idea. If you're in a rush to get the job done, don't go near older buildings.
Listed buildings... Why?
Personally I believe listed buildings (whatever 'grade') should be matched with traditional and sympathetic materials, and modern plastic-based paints don't fall into this categorisation. I've yet to see any water-based paints hold up longer than say a couple of years on external joinery, whereas the likes of natural linseed oil based paint (when applied correctly of course) will last in excess of 5 years before it requires only simple refresh. @@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
@@cg3205😂 evolve!!
no nonsense exterior caulk from screwfix well worth a try
I bet it's good. I take it it's Flexi and dried in 30min?
I use exterior good quality caulk. Tape a line and build it up over two days. It will easily take a coat on day 3. Just be a little patient with a firm slightly damp sponge. Fix your putty lines before everything else and it won't hold you up. This guy talks too much.
Sorry Pal, but that camera shake is unbearable. can't watch it, was making me feel sick. please think about investing in a gyro stabilised camera. good luck with the videos.
Tell me about it.... Hand held camera phone
Just shut your eyes and listen lol
My first pick . Your welcome
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