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YEAHHH! I asked for this video in a previous comment!! lol thanks man!! you're getting a thumbs up before I even watch it.
One thing to mention is how irregular it is to sand Bondo against a soft pine - If the filler is hard like Bondo and you sand too aggressively you may wear away the pine faster than the Bondo. Another great video!
Ding ding ding!
I ran into this same problem.
wow I just recently found that out the hard way. luckily I caught in time.
Yes, and in that case I have found it is better to start with hard-backed sandpaper, not foam backed such as block of wood. This sort of "planes" it down and you can better control what is actually having material removed. Then switch to more hard-foam backed.
Matthew McConaughey addresses this with his explanation of the magic hour. Bondo should be sculpted. If you have to sand bondo much you've already lost.
As a carpenter I love leaving the filling work to the painter.
you would not believe the amount of work a painter has to do after some of the “wood butchers” I’ve had to follow…but then there’s the master carpenters who really care about their finish work!
That must be the reason my painters quotes are so expensive 😂
So what you're really saying is, you're a lazy carpenter.
@@da324 Not really , I try to use minimum nails with glues and as finer guage nails as practical, I just hate filling.
@@da324 I'm not a carpenter, I hire carpenters. I can't afford domino'd casing. I guarantee most finish carpenters would prefer to spend an entire day on no fill trim...but there's budgets and deadlines 🤙
Are we ever gonna see this painted? Come on already. What’s the hold up? Obviously I’m just kidding but I really am looking forward to the final reveal. It looks fantastic. A great before and after for your website or portfolio.
I'm saying the same thing lol
No really, the sent a man to the moon in less time…..🎉
On those shallow depressions, I like to use a nail or punch to add some depth to the hole before filling
Freak'n love detailed videos on simple subjects like this. Super useful info that will make even my DIY projects look more professional. Thanks Richard!
After trying the usual products out there i settled many years ago on the Durhams rock hard water putty on paint grade trim.. You can mix up a small or large batch with a little water as needed. Sometimes using a small squeeze bottle you can pinpoint a dollop on the nail or screw hole proud of the trim & that eliminates all the excess material and sanding later. Just my 2 cents anyway now retired after 42 years in the trade . Thank god for people like you that carry on the quality of work that you do. Keep up the good work its a great way to make an honest living.
I concur, pin pointing the filler eliminates the need for excessive sanding which can cut
thru the primer leaving an uneven surface. I use B-I-N primer after filing and level sanding.
I was just about to recommend it when I saw your comment
You can never go wrong with Durhams.
👍🏻👏🏻
Durham is good stuff 👍
When the work is being painted for nail holes I like to use 20 minute drywall mud . It is by far the quickest and easiest to make the hole compleatly disappear.
Nicely done. I've been a spray painter for 30 yrs. After first coat of primer, I always go back and use a work light and red glaze to make sure everything is corrected. The light really helps you see everything. And when you're done, it's like glass.
A spot light in the dark. It will cast shadows that would scare Casper himself.
When I used to tape houses full time I always blocked with a light in the dark, now I'm finding more guys doing it
@batmansdad3195 how did you deal with customers not wanting you there before or after the sun goes up or down?
@@bartholomewgreatpants3425 in new con you can do the hours you want, for Reno's I blocked the windows and informed them I need the lights off. They 100% agree with me when I told them I can see more than using light to fight light and they'd head out while I sanded.
Winter months are the best, it was dark at 4:30 and sunrise was 8:30, so I'd show up super early and sponge out or show up at 4
Agreed. Because you could patch & sand, then in a couple hours when the light moves through the room it shows up new spots to be patched.
Chase your tail all day without a light!
Or worse - the client points it out once your packed & cleaned😩
I find a good quality torch held parallel to the workpiece you don’t need the room blacked out. As long as it’s not direct sunlight of course
After sanding but before priming do you wipe down with a wet cloth? vacuum?
To much time sanding all that excess. Your way will deliver good results but l use a small putty knife to push the filler into the hole and l wipe off the excess with a small piece of a wet sponge after the filler has dried . Its called a wet sand and you cannot see any holes. However l do finger the filler in areas like the cove part of crown . Trick is not to let the filler dry to hard, like overnight. It takes a little practice to perfect , but l get good results with most wood fillers. Also if the wood filler is to dry just add some water.
Was going to point out the holes that you missed but realized it is dirt on my screen...Also, I like Durhams, it's a powder so you can mix as much as you need and make it as wet or dry as you want. It gets harder than woodpecker lips in just a few minutes.
I had the same problem with my screen!
Sherwin Williams sells a 3M hole filler product that I use on a daily basis as a painter. Drys fast and doesn't shrink. They also have a large hole filler that has fibers in it witch is good for wall repairs. Best product I have found so far. 👍
I can back this 3m is great
Holy smokes. That fireplace is stunning. Great work!!
This is EXACTLY what I've been waiting to see for several years now! Thank you very much!
Dang it, i have been filling with the Spackle and rubbiing it smooth, since i watched your Wainscot videos. and back filling with the 3M bondo.(the red stuff). it has been working great.
i will try this method next time. glad you are showing this part.
Works well for me too! Always good info from this channel
I am curious what you think about a wet wipe process to eliminate sanding? I have seen some guys come back in 15 minutes and wipe with a damp sponge. Thoughts?
Interesting, I haven’t tried it but I will! Thanks for the idea.
I love your channel and have been a subscriber for years, and I wish all carpenters had your commitment to doing quality work. Please don't misunderstand my advice for other painters out there. As a profession painter of 47 years working in Palm Beach and a 17 year veteran contractor I've patched at least a million nail holes. Funny thing, I never minded nail holes before the nail gun was invented. The painters out there know what I'm talking about. FamoWood is a little to grainy for a final fill but it is a good choice, use a putty knife and press hard , it will pop up and leave a crown . Bondo and then glazing putty are the best choices but there is a lot of waste and wasted time, so it depends on the budget. Any of the other choices will work fine as a first fill because I always go over them with a high quality finely ground final coat like Synkoloid (1st choice) or Mh spackle. By the way Bondo makes a special formula for wood that sands much easier, and use white hardener.
What about in exterior situations? I have a porch that looks just like your fireplace (nail holes)
The famowood is for exterior too!
MH Ready Patch is my putty of choice - give it a shot👍
I thought for sure that he'd show MH in the product shot! Surprising!
Sheetrock mud is the fastest and best way to fill small nail holes in painted wood. If put on with a trowel with a little pressure the wood will soak up the moisture quickly and the mud will stand proud of the wood and sand off easily and flush. Paint will make the mud hard enough.
we use famowood in the cabinet shop
Please make sure your TV is not on standby when covered in plastic. As a insurance adjuster I have seen thre tv catch fire while on standby mode when covered I would hate to see your great work go up in smoke
but in another video of yours you recommend and demonstrate using pink drydex on crown. so, which is it?
Have you ever used Rock Hard powder that you mix with water? But your far above on skill level then I’ll ever be.
Thanks for sharing that information, Richard. I was hoping you would make this video. The bigger trim screw holes always seem to sink in with other products. Next trim job I know what filler I am using.
Durhams/rockys......water putty...my favorite....yellow powder..just add water 💧
Boy I just love your work. Actual craftsmen are so hard to come by nowadays. I wish you lived in my area (Houston); I've have you busy frequently.
Great video as always. A good paint job is 99% prep and 1% painting.
4:29 "Completely dry, and very hard" sounds exactly like date night with the wife lol
😂🤣
Best results. Overlay delicate tape, nail, add the wood filler, pull the tape off. If you need to sand...probably not...and then paint. I lot of overhead however, the end result is awesome.
All those products suck. The only one that seems to work well is Durham's wood filler.
That said I typically spray paint with HVLP paint gun before install. Then cover the surface with two layers of painters tape, than nail the trim piece up using the smallest gauge brads possible for the application. Then apply an epoxy since its the only filter that does not come out when you pull the tape off. Sand the epoxy (leaving the tape on), and paint over the epoxy using a artist's paint brush. Then remove the tape & do any minor paint touch up.
Paint is really the key to good looking trim finish. Painting with a Brush or foam always leaves a less that ideal finish. Spray painting trim on a wall is a pain since its difficult to deal with drip marks.
Ok, I think I got it,,…look for the hole….and press it in…..thanks for the TIP
Nicely done brother 🤘🤠
The mantle was absolutely beautiful. I love the detail. Great job.
I used to use Dap 88 Painters Putty.
•Now I just use 30min spackle/drywall compound mixed in a plastic cup and apply with my finger.
It costs next to nothing, very easy to sand and leaves a great finish.
Quickset 30? Like hot mud or regular green lid joint compound? Thanks! :)
I would highly recommend Red Devil Vinyl Patch. It’s got a consistency similar to Cool Whip, it’s very cheap, and if you add just a splash of water to the big tub and mix, you can work very quickly. You can get very smooth results in a short time. The only thing I’d say bad about it is that since it’s so lightweight, it’s easy to get some where you don’t intend to, but if you have a plastic flexible scraper, you can knock off the little boogers very quickly. Sands easy and takes paint extremely well. I use it for drywall, wood, and even pvc or polystyrene trim work.
Sherwin Williams also makes one similar to this. Also “stainable”. It stains up decent but it’s a great wood filler for sure. If I were installing stain grade trim I’d make my own putty with the saw dust from my sander. Some glue and sawdust mixed together works best in my opinion
Mannn your wife must really love you. I dont know any woman that would let their husband experiment with making a custom mantle for 8 months while not having windows installed😂. Great project turned out great.
Try filling at the end of the day with a tiny flashlight in your spare hand, this will hi light all dents and scratches. Use the shadows to your advantage👍😊
I've been at woodworking for almost 50 years and I agree with some of the other comments that clearly the best filler I've found by far is MH. I tried Famowood and went back to MH. I've also found that using painters masking tape first over anything I'm going to use a nailer on GREATLY reduces the filler/sanding hassle and time spent. After you run around and fill all the nail holes, you just peel off the tape. What you're left with is just the filler filling the nail hole itself - Very easy to knock down with 2-3 quick swipes of 180-220 grit. Otherwise, doing it the traditional way here, you're trying to bring dozens or hundreds of those tiny "pitcher's mounds" of hardened filler back to virtual flat. LOTS of time required. Hope this helps. LOVE your site and all the QUALITY help you provide!
Indoor, outdoor - MH has served me well too.
Thanks Ron. You mean you cover the whole area with tape first? Just leave a bare spot around holes..?
I love MH I have been using it for 40 years , , I use 3M stick it sand paper , on blocks of wood with different profiles. I also tint the MH with universal tint to help with see it in primed wood😊
wherever you plan to shoot your nailer, lay down a strip of masking tape first. It's an extra step but it only takes 10 seconds. Shoot your nails through the tape. push in your nail filler and leave just a tiny bit more to allow for a miniscule bit of MH shrinkage. Peel off the tape while the filler is till damp. You'll be left with filler only the size of the nail head. In a couple hours you can go back and touch down that tiny bit of nail head filler with some 220 grit. No little pitchers mounds or "whiteheads" as we called them in our teenage years to deal with. When you peel back the masking tape, you're removing 90% of the "overfill" of the filler that would've been hardened on the surface of the molding. E-Z! @@richspring1
That sounds like a great idea!👍. I’ll have to try that.
I've been making and finishing off and on for more years than I like to count. I always learn something from you. I'm about to make a pedestal for a faux fireplace, and I know there are going to be a bunch of holes, I'm using an Australian wood filler that looks like it has very much the same properties of the one you like(which I've already ordered)and always did multiple steps. Very much like your method and can't wait to try it. Any time you can eliminate steps, is a good time. Thanks for your content.
Glazing putty and a very flexible knife. Push into hole with thumb then shizzle between thumb and surface. Try it - you might be surprised
He is Master in crown molding explain verry well I did some myself. and a lot of it to is time consuming lot of prep that goes on these Job
some great advice here mate! yeah some timber fillers are really hit and miss these days, I've been using linseed oil putty, overfilling it waiting for it to dry then sand. It can shrink though, definitely don't want it visible after a high gloss finish coat
I would still use a one inch putty knife to fill in flat areas and use gloves. I hate dirty fingers.
Would've been nice to have reflective light to see the "after" shots, but it looks like it turned out well. One step not mentioned is airing out the holes of dust before filling also ensures optimum adhesion of the wood filler. I've seen lots of filler crumble during the sanding when people try to fill dusty holes.
Durhams!!!
I prefer MH ready patch for filler as for me it dries hard and sands flat but to each their own
During the renovation of our 100+ year farmhouse, I had custom millwork made to match the original in the house. the trim carpenters didn't cut off areas of snipe and at least to me it was glaringly visible. I ended up using the glazing putty to fill in the snipe as wood filler didn't stick when sanding. Took several layers with sanding between to get it so the snipe was gone
I recommend MH to everyone after trying just about every filler imaginable! I'm glad to know someone else shares my affinity for that product!
I know it gets mixed reviews but my go-to is still the drydex in the tube. I cut the tip ~3/16 and press it directly on the nail hole and squeeze pretty hard until it splooges out the sides and then I lighten up and let it overflow the hole a bit. This ensures that the hole is completely jammed with filler and the excess allows for the shrinkage. The shrinkage seems to be the open loose grain of the wood created by the nail hole just pulling the moisture out of the filler and drawing it into the hole. The method I use with a bit of excess accounts for that. One pass of filler chased with some 220 grit and you couldn't find the heads with a spotlight and magnifying glass. It's reliable and efficient just pressing the tip to the nail holes and squeezing. It's also very clean because you don't need to use your finger to work it in. I'm still going to give your product a try but I figured I'd throw this out there because I've had really good luck with drydex using this method.
I've also had good results.... Use it all the time and then I typically paint over it within hours of filling the holes and I get great results. I do use the wood fillers on some repairs, but waiting hours for setting/drying is a real downside to working with them.
drydex in a tube, really? sounds perfect.
never seen it with the tubs, then again I wasn't looking for it.
I'm a huge fan of that stuff
I love this channel and have used it to take on my own projects. The only problem is I take so long to finish anything that many of the products I started using because of FCTV are now at the bottom of the list…hardboard filler panels on wainscot, CA glue, and now DAP pink filler. It is nice to see the progression though, I guess I just need to work faster. I’m about a year into a coffered ceiling and 18’/11’ high paneled walls in my 2 story foyer. I should be finished up any day now…
Great job. Patience pays off. I’ll try your preferred filler. You may want to try Timbermate filler. It’s my favorite stain-grade filler , especially if you can find a close color match to the species you’ve used.
I've tried a bunch of different filler products like DAP and Bondo, but Bondo is 2 part and it hardens like a rock making it difficult to sand. Famowood gave me the best results for a smooth surface finish. The product itself is a fine paste and quickly dries making it easy to sand and paint.
Just out of curiosity, why do you not like the Dap spackling anymore? That used to be your go to
Watch the video for your answer.
I did watch it. Where's the answer?@@james1795
Painters should take note. 90% of them done care to put in the effort for this task
Window glazing with some 45min powder drywall compound. Vanishes.
You missed a product Famowood Filler Thinner A little on a cloth wipes away excess very easily and reduces sanding almost completely.
he using water based not . your talking about solvent based.
Great advice! Thank you!
I don't think you understand how much I HATED trim work until I found this channel. Thanks for making my life a lot easier when doing trim! I mean, I still avoid it, but it's not as bad if I'm forced to do it.
Famowood fillers are top of the line for stained or painted applications. It's what you'll see in professional cabinet shops, it's what the cabinet shop suppliers sale, etc. The only issue we ever had with it was filling hairline cracks in painted (conversion varnish paint) solid wood cabinet doors. Because it is so hard, It has a habit of cracking when the joints expand and contract over time. Lightweight spackle seemed to hold up better in that instance since it is somewhat flexible.
Jeez, you must be bored.
I love famowood, found it by accident at hardwood dealer and haven’t looked back since. It sands supper fast and smooth.
Thanks for the wood filler recommendation - helpful. Nice progress on the mantle. Always appreciated.
I like the filler that is made with Talc. It is light and easy to use and you can use your fingers instead of using a pallet knife. It dries within 5 minutes and does not shrink.
Big fan of elmers wood filler. Strick not soft sands very fine
Great job man. Going to try that filler on my next job. Thank you for all your advice. Mantle build is a great series....really enjoying it.
Richard, you might try Bin Primmer from Zinzer. As a shellac based primer you can get a very nice build applying multiple coats. Sands out like glass.
I think he wants to spray it as he did with the other trim. I don’t think you can spray bin or shouldn’t I guess
paint it matte. it looks stunning in a matte finish
I love famowood, I’ve also watered it down even thinner to fill grain better
Great topic and explainations. Got alot info that will help me on future projects.
Will this work on mdf mouldings
And which sander did you use
Love the sander conforming to the shape of the moulding
Thank you great content
dang it's the best I've tried....got it at Menards and love it....btw another big downside of bondo is it is very hard and you will sand away wood trying to get extra off...thanks for the tip,,,,i'm a fan!
Hey, love your content. You inspired me to do an accent wall, ceiling feature, and wainscotting in my home! :-) Can you tell me what sander you are using? I don't see it in your list of equipment below. Thank you.
From a pro finish carpenter/ contractor like you ! Minwax wood filler works better than
“Car Bondo” ! For about 90% of your wood out there there are several exotics I hv not used it on like Spanish cedar !
I’ve seen auto detailers use a pen light - held at a very shallow angle against the surface - to highlight small holes and dents. The shallow angle of the light causes a shadow to show-up on anything that’s not level. I would think that shadow would stick-out like a sore thumb against that white primer. Has anyone tried this with trim carpentry?
What primer are you using?
Bought some yesterday. I do like the Durhams water putty too.
What’s that sander you used with the cushion to get the contours?
I like “Plastic Wood” but not the one shown; there is a “Plastic Wood” that is sold in cans and not water based but either acetone or xylene based. The canned “Plastic Wood” is great as it’s fast setting, hard, and does stain relatively well.
Be careful with Bondo outside or in areas with larger wood movement as it can pop out.
Can I use famowood to fill in cracks, gaps like bondo? Or should I just stick to bondo. Bondo stinks up my whole house and would rather use something else for a small door jamb project and baseboard
your craftsmanship and attention to detail are remarkable... you always do great work!
Glue it, don't nail it.
That would be the Jioners solution...👍
If more glueing was used we wouldn't have so many joints opening up after painting.... too easy to shoot nails these days
Would you say all of the info in your video also applies to MEDITE and MDF? Same filler theory applies?
wow what an ugly room, really outdated fixtures, and horrible decorations, scene from 60 years ago
What Spray paint are you using after the filling of the holes?
I have door trim and bace boards to fill and match. I prepainted the trim white before the install.
What fine pad sander are u using?? Thanks! :)
What's up with the frieze? It looks like you have a pulvinated frieze mounted upside down and it doesn't return either?
What spray can primer was that. Any thoughts on this? It would be nice for small things like this where I don’t want to use the big sprayer. Is it as good as what you get with the regular primer?
That will be a fun one! I also use famowood filler but I wouldn't dare use 120 grit on primed trim. Those scratch marks are hard to sand out, and they would translate through into the satin topcoat. But maybe your last coat of primer does the trick.
Timbermate is very similar to Famowood its almost like you're using the same stuff. Just like Famowood it has lots of tones to match woods only one of the options is white so it works great with primed trim.
I'm getting the message that Famowood shrinks a lot if he's putting that much on. That's not a plus.
This was great, Subscribed!
Helpful. Will try that product on next project.
Wood filler, sandpaper, and paint. Just saved you 15 min.
Nice job! Details are amazing! 🫡👍🫡
i'm pretty sure thats termite damage 🤪
Carpenter Acne...
I have a big gallon and noticed it getting hard. Is there anything we can use to soften it or keep it malleable?
Does anyone know what kind of finish pads and sander he uses at the 12:20 mark that conforms to the trim shape? I need that Thanks!!
Just curious, Is carpenter's responsibility to fill nail holes in your area?
Can this product be used on mdf baseboards for nail and gap fills?
I just went to ace hardware today after work. For the Famowood. No luck