I own the last generation G17, and I've been happy with it. My only gripe is that super thin bezel is thin plastic that cracks way too easily near the bumpers on either side. Easy to fix with some CF and a small clamp. Never had this issue with any other laptop, and I'm always very careful of my gear. Any pressure on the lid will crack the bezel in those spots. If you're planning on getting the G17, be very careful with the lid. Never put any weight on it at all when closed.
Same, i do like my 2021 Strix G17 till these days. Sure that it's not perfect, but then that was the only laptop that i could find and get back then when getting new 2021 gaming laptops are difficult. As for the bezels, mine didn't have that issue, but the keyboard lighting had a bit of issue, which i brought it to Asus service center and they just swap and keyboard and now it worked fine.
I able to play RDR2 on ultra settings on a $200 laptop with a RTX 1050-Ti. Check my latest video upload. This prove expensive laptop is a wasted of money. 🤑
My local Micro Center has the Maingear Vector Pro 2 with an i9-12900H and RTX 3080Ti (175W), 64GB of DDR5-4800 RAM, a 2TB SSD, and a 15" 240Hz 1440p display. All for $1800. Literally like 95% of the CPU performance and 100% of the GPU performance for $3200 cheaper than the GT77 Titan. An INSANE deal if you ask me
Yeah that 5000$ price point is the real issue here. For 4k I can build a killer desktop with a 4090, 4k 144hz screen and decent peripherals thrown in and still have 1k left over for a laptop. For example there are now laptops available with an RTX 3060 for about 1k. 3060 a@1080p is perfectly reasonable for when you're on the go. Heck,
MSI is smoking something again. With how crap their laptops are, charging $5000 for a mediocre mobile 3080 Ti configuration is criminal. Not to mention that RTX 3060 laptops are way way better priced and the performance is good. Looking forward to the CES 2023 to see how badly that GT77 Titan ages.
$4k to $5k laptop with no true upgrade path is bad value for me IMO and it is an insult when you call them DTR systems... because they are no longer really what true DTR laptops used to be ... firsts of all it means all you want is performance in a mobile form factor so all 9f these modern gaming laptops are no longer desktop replacement because they are too thin and als they get too hot or too loud lackluster of io and having everything soldered to the board.... they are good as gaming laptops but thats just it nothing more because 8 learned the hard way... and fact wise a desktop system can sustain peak load for days non stop however ... those laptops it is another story.... Still a fan of your content either way but I completely disagree on the DTR aspect because it is not even close
I disagree about Dell/Alienware as the best of all 3 as the processor has only 8 core, 16 threads unlike Intel Geh 12 MSI GT77 no wonder GT77 is double price of Dell/Alienware and Asus/ROG
Weird for the AMD CPU + Nvidia GPU, he didn't go for the Zephyrus Duo that has the 6980HX and an RTX 3080 Ti if you wanted the fastest possible config and is still cheaper than the MSI...
ASUS, Acer, Alienware, and MSI all have laptops that are of the same class in each size, but I dont believe that's the intention here. Otherwise he would've just reviewed those. I think the MSI one was just meant to be completely over the top (they have other less extreme 3080 TI laptops). Alienware with an AMD+AMD combo, and ASUS just something in between.
I really need a new one, but now I will wait another couple of months to see what the new gpu gen can improve. A little bit more power but most importantly efficiency will benefit notebooks immensely.
I able to play RDR2 on ultra settings on a $200 laptop with a RTX 1050-Ti. Check my latest video upload. This prove expensive laptop is a wasted of money. 💸
Between these, I would pick the Alienware any day. 17.3" panel at 4K 120hz. Everything else is a bonus, the 32gb ram is plenty, the 6900HX and 6850M XT is plenty to run any games on max. the Strix should be under 2k. The Gt77 on steroid with a heavy price tag while carrying a 1080p panel is just embarrassing.
Excellent review. I bought the MSI GE76HX for a lot less, with the i7 12800HX cpu and 3070 Ti gpu. I had to cut the costs to a sane figure, and after excrutiating analysis I opted for the GE67HX. But the real cupcake is its OLED screen. It's just amazing. What a gaming beast, and my Cinebench scores were very close to yours of the GT77.
I'd go with the M17 if I was in the market for a new gaming laptop, stuff like the mechanical keyboard being loud and pingy doesn't really matter much on a gaming laptop for me at least.
I've been looking at the Legion 7 with the 6850 for a few months now. I keep flipping between that and an L7 with the 3070ti. The AMD L7 I'm looking at has a 6800H/6850M XT combo and not the 6900HX. I think I still might go the AMD L7 route since I do zero creative work and just want the battery life for working on the go and solid gaming when plugged in at home.
I personally have the Legion 7 with 6900HX and 6850M XT and I absolutely love it! It doesn't get hot on the keyboard deck when playing games and definitely has much better battery life than the Intel version.
@@SwiftArrowMCSGPvP Do you think I'm missing much by getting the 6800H version as it is the only one available to me right now? Lenovo's site has the 6900HX/2 TB version but has been OOS for months. The 6800H is 1 TB and $200ish cheaper than than the one on Lenovo's site.
@@gandoo10 nah definitely not, especially for gaming you won't notice a difference and you might even get slightly better battery life since it's a less powerful CPU.
bro prices are insane now, i bought an msi laptop right when the 10 series dropped and it was the highest end msi one you could buy at the time (2016) had a 1060 & i7 6700k and it was $1,600
MSI is just crazy here, 5K for a laptop with a Full HD display is ridiculous. Yes it is 360hz but lets be honest, very few people actually play on laptop screens. I would just get the Alienware or the Strix (most probably the Strix) and pair it with a good 2.5K external display (and still be under 3K $).
Just bought the m17, i bought it for video editing. My first gaming laptop. Think I made a good buy, from the reviews ive watched. Thank you for your comparison, I was actually looking at both those, msi way out of my price range though.
The other thing I noticed about the MSI laptop is that for 5K, it has no USB-C ports. That's a big deal for anyone using USB-C pass-through for display, or using it for VR.
M17 looking good for me as the main selling point for me was the Davinci Resolve performance. Didn't mind about the keyboard since I'm gonna use my custom keyboard anyway. Then the price just made it an easy pick for me, plus the 4K display and minimalist design of Alienware are bonus. Thank you for the video! If not for you I wouldn't know M17 was this good. I only know the specs but didn't know the real life benchmarks.
I'd pick the Alienware for most of the same reasons you stated. Besides, as a Linux user I prefer AMD GPUs (and I don't like the way NVidia treats its customers). Too bad is not a 16:10 screen.
What about the wifi adaptor? I have the Asus G15 advantage edition and I've noticed that the wifi turns off when the laptop goes to sleep and requires a wifi adaptor reset to turn it back on or a full restart of the laptop.
Why isn't the Asus Scar 17 SE on this list? Its using the i9 12950HX processor, 32GB DDR5 ram, 2 1TB m.2 in RAID 0, RTX 3080 TI, 1440p 240Hz screen. This laptop is super fast and i thought was the second fastest in 2022, the 1st being the MSI GT77.
Which one is the best laptop for Machine Learning? Am a data analyst and regularly chew through data that sometimes goes in GB's, and workloads are mostly handled via GPUs cores. I was told it's the Alienware, but need an opinion on that.
I wonder, why not cut that battery life in these 17 inch laptops to make room for extra cooling, more storage or to save weight? It's not like people buy 17 inch laptops to use it on battery for more than a couple of hours. I guess that is too radical of a concept.
I have the Alienware M17 R5 with the 3070. Performance is great but Alienware still needs to work on tuning or something. I have a few games that I play on ultra or high with FPS above 50 and randomly it will drop to low 20s to 12 fps. Thermals are all good and no throttling just goes slow for a few seconds to about a minute. Did you experience any random slow downs?
These would all be overkill for running switch games, the recommended specs are a gtx 1650 but can run fine on integrated graphics (at least as well as the switch obviously go for the 1650 if you want 60fps)
Definitely not in the market for any of these, but if I were I think the m17 would be my choice. I really wish that Dell/Alienware would get rid of that ugly screen size etching on the back, I was interested in the 14" Alienware a couple of months and that part of the design was a big turn-off.
Of the three shown, I would almost have to flip a coin between the alienware and the ASUS... I probably lean towards the ASUS. And that would be a straight up same price situation, with the price being a little lower again I have to give the ASUS a tad more of weight, but much of what I consider necessary in a desktop replacement includes a certain balance... Fact is I'm really intrigued by the alienware, so I would probably have to go in store to test out the ergonomics on it before I can make a decision one way or the other
Also, FYI, I just dropped 64 Gigs of Corsair Vengeance DDR5/4800 RAM into My ASUS ROG (mind you, mine is the 15.6-inch version, not 17-inch), and it recognizes the full 64 gigabytes. Corsair is also much faster than the generic RAM that was in the system. I saw a big performance boost this AM on Cyberpunk, which is kind of my benchmark these days due to the heavy load it puts a system under. There has been some confusion over this, as various docs from ASUS indicate either 32 or "24" gigabytes maximum capacity, but others had found 64 works fine. Not sure if the manual has a typo or someone screwed up correcting 32 to 64, and accidentally typed 24, but either way, the ASUS ROG laptops can handle 64 gigs of RAM no problem.
I don't think these are the fastest gaming laptop, like you could had choose the Strix Scar series instead of the G series, but then i guess if your video says on comparing a Intel + Nvidia vs AMD + Nvidia vs full AMD, then i guess that's alright? But then if you want the fastest AMD + Nvidia gaming laptop, look no further than the Legion 5 Pro
My question Sr, I found Acer predator i9, 165HZ what do you think.. If I am mistaken games can run 122HZ at max... So Acer can do 165HZ isn't that more than enough ? Is that right or wrong... That games can run 122HZ at maximum?
there is an issue with the 6900 cpu from amd. i have it on my g14 and i have to say, it stays pegged at high power draw even in silent mode. i have managed to drop it to normal power draw using registry editor commands to unlock the options in windows. I really want to test it in games and other things to see how well the overall system performs by allocating power to the gpu primarily
@@Collin_J power plan is suprisingly useful for tuning. best to go in and set minimum to 1%, but something to consider is max is base clock so if you go below 100% it'll kill all boost plus some extra. for instance i have my battery mode capped at 50%, and even though the boost is 3.9 the base clock is only 2.2 so that means i capped it at 1.1ghz. just something to consider
I wish msi put the 12th gen i9-12900k desktop cpu on the gt 77 titan like the 9th gen i9-9900k desktop cpu from the gt 76 titan and have a 4k mini led display from the creator 17.
0:12 I'm going to stop your right there... It's called a desktop or an external gpu (seriously you'd be stupid to pay 5k for a machine that can be beaten by a 1.5k desktop or 2k laptop+egpu)
could you guys do a video on best laptops with type c charging? i need one for being on the road and i discovered the chungus chargers these things need are just deal breakers.
@@klumzyee its still 100w, because no cord or port for any device currently does more than that. even macbook has their magsafe to do 140w. we might see 240w in like 3-5 years. and im aware it wouldnt be this category, thats why i asked for a seperate video of a seperate category
That is the most useless screen to have for a laptop, paying for a nice laptop to only limit it at 1080p is insane and you aren't even going to get that max refresh rate which makes it even more pointless
Will NEVER EVER buy another MSI laptop. The one I'm using required a hinge fix before it was 3 months old and it was handled gingerly. It now requires a new keyboard (typing this on a bluetooth keyboard) but that requires a TOTAL disassembly of the laptop. VERY POORLY designed!
That dragon looks like an 8-year old drew it. Is everyone at MSI blind? You’ve removed the front panel on your O11 Air Mini, were the thermals way better without it?
A better comparison in price would be the MSI Raider GE77HX at $1900 currently on amazon. Now you are not talking twice the price. I looked at the Alienware and it is just missing too much, like they were using a cheap motherboard to save $.
You must be tripping or do this on purpose for not using the Rog Strix Scar 17 SE which is literally have an i9 12950hx + rtx3080ti that on par with the performance of the GT77, instead you included the Strix 17 that uses an amd processor and just 3070ti and said “the fastest gaming laptop from asus”???
Same goes for Alienware, the best performance gaming laptop they have at the moment is the X17r2 which has an i9 12900hk + rtx 3080ti not the lower M17r5 with amd configuration LoL. I’ve seen many bullshit videos on this channel, and this one just take it to another level 🤣
I’m so happy I don’t need a portable PC. I do not miss my laptop gaming days one bit. Glad they’ve gotten way better these last 5 years though. They used to be so trash.
YOUR COMPLAINING BC THAT LAPTOP TAKES 10 SECONDS TO OPEN FILES? MINE TAKES OVER TWO MINUTES IF IT DOESNT FREEZE DURING IT. BUT USUALLY IT FREEZES AT LEAST THREE TIMES FOR OVER 30 SECONDS. HELP
Wow thats a great deal for that Alienware M17 R5 compared to the crappy Best Buy model for $2300. The model at Best Buy has only 1080p, 16 ram, and a 3070ti. The 1080p is what kept me away from it
Recently purchased the Alienware M17 R5 and so far it's been a great investment. For me it's a desktop replacement and I use it mostly for gaming.
what are temps during heavy loads ? Is it thermal throttling ?
I own the last generation G17, and I've been happy with it. My only gripe is that super thin bezel is thin plastic that cracks way too easily near the bumpers on either side. Easy to fix with some CF and a small clamp. Never had this issue with any other laptop, and I'm always very careful of my gear. Any pressure on the lid will crack the bezel in those spots. If you're planning on getting the G17, be very careful with the lid. Never put any weight on it at all when closed.
Is this only with g17 or even with g15????
@@darkphoienx8163 i own a 2021 G15 and it does not happen for me. The bezel does flex though.
Same, i do like my 2021 Strix G17 till these days. Sure that it's not perfect, but then that was the only laptop that i could find and get back then when getting new 2021 gaming laptops are difficult.
As for the bezels, mine didn't have that issue, but the keyboard lighting had a bit of issue, which i brought it to Asus service center and they just swap and keyboard and now it worked fine.
I able to play RDR2 on ultra settings on a $200 laptop with a RTX 1050-Ti.
Check my latest video upload.
This prove expensive laptop is a wasted of money.
🤑
@@condorX2 No one cares lol. Just because you cant afford something, doesn't make it "not worth it".
My local Micro Center has the Maingear Vector Pro 2 with an i9-12900H and RTX 3080Ti (175W), 64GB of DDR5-4800 RAM, a 2TB SSD, and a 15" 240Hz 1440p display.
All for $1800.
Literally like 95% of the CPU performance and 100% of the GPU performance for $3200 cheaper than the GT77 Titan.
An INSANE deal if you ask me
Yes, that is indeed an insane deal even compared to what's coming witth CES 2023
Yeah that 5000$ price point is the real issue here. For 4k I can build a killer desktop with a 4090, 4k 144hz screen and decent peripherals thrown in and still have 1k left over for a laptop. For example there are now laptops available with an RTX 3060 for about 1k. 3060 a@1080p is perfectly reasonable for when you're on the go. Heck,
MSI is smoking something again. With how crap their laptops are, charging $5000 for a mediocre mobile 3080 Ti configuration is criminal. Not to mention that RTX 3060 laptops are way way better priced and the performance is good. Looking forward to the CES 2023 to see how badly that GT77 Titan ages.
I literally have the setup you just said and bought a laptop on the side with what was left over lol. the strix g17 with the 2060 and i7 10700h
$4k to $5k laptop with no true upgrade path is bad value for me IMO and it is an insult when you call them DTR systems... because they are no longer really what true DTR laptops used to be ... firsts of all it means all you want is performance in a mobile form factor so all 9f these modern gaming laptops are no longer desktop replacement because they are too thin and als they get too hot or too loud lackluster of io and having everything soldered to the board.... they are good as gaming laptops but thats just it nothing more because 8 learned the hard way... and fact wise a desktop system can sustain peak load for days non stop however ... those laptops it is another story.... Still a fan of your content either way but I completely disagree on the DTR aspect because it is not even close
I disagree about Dell/Alienware as the best of all 3 as the processor has only 8 core, 16 threads
unlike Intel Geh 12 MSI GT77 no wonder GT77 is double price of Dell/Alienware and Asus/ROG
Around an average monthly salary in Norway.
Your voice is so nice and perfect it matches all the subtitles perfectly.
Got a legion 7i top spec gen 7 and it literally shits on all of these build quality, performance and temps wise.
Yes, PTM7950 that the Legion 7 gen 7 has is the best
I wish we could get powerful laptops like this that didn’t look like they were designed by 5 year olds. So hideous.
Legion 7
Legion 7i Slim
Yeah, pretty much any Legion this year looks much more professional than most other gaming laptops.
The Lenovo Legion 7 has a config exactly same to the Alienware mentioned here. So technically, you can get portability with performance
Weird for the AMD CPU + Nvidia GPU, he didn't go for the Zephyrus Duo that has the 6980HX and an RTX 3080 Ti if you wanted the fastest possible config and is still cheaper than the MSI...
ASUS, Acer, Alienware, and MSI all have laptops that are of the same class in each size, but I dont believe that's the intention here. Otherwise he would've just reviewed those. I think the MSI one was just meant to be completely over the top (they have other less extreme 3080 TI laptops). Alienware with an AMD+AMD combo, and ASUS just something in between.
I really need a new one, but now I will wait another couple of months to see what the new gpu gen can improve. A little bit more power but most importantly efficiency will benefit notebooks immensely.
I able to play RDR2 on ultra settings on a $200 laptop with a RTX 1050-Ti.
Check my latest video upload.
This prove expensive laptop is a wasted of money.
💸
Between these, I would pick the Alienware any day. 17.3" panel at 4K 120hz. Everything else is a bonus, the 32gb ram is plenty, the 6900HX and 6850M XT is plenty to run any games on max.
the Strix should be under 2k. The Gt77 on steroid with a heavy price tag while carrying a 1080p panel is just embarrassing.
Excellent review. I bought the MSI GE76HX for a lot less, with the i7 12800HX cpu and 3070 Ti gpu. I had to cut the costs to a sane figure, and after excrutiating analysis I opted for the GE67HX. But the real cupcake is its OLED screen. It's just amazing. What a gaming beast, and my Cinebench scores were very close to yours of the GT77.
Apparently 'gaming' means a higher price and rgb
I bought helios 300 3070ti edition for 1700 dollars based on your recommendation and I am loving with it
I didnt know that there's a laptop with radeon rx6850m xt . Now its my target !
When I've chosen a 15-inch laptop in a video comparison between 17-inches :)
Thanks for including Asus m16 vs Alienware x15 R2 stats (m16 is my best)
Aura creator let's you customise different zones of all the available lighting on ROG laptop. They aren't synced unless on the default preset.
Yeah, i think they somehow forgot about that, or they just went by looking straight at Armoury Crate without looking at the other parts.
@@takimara154 actually it's right there in the video in the armoury crate. Linked together.
This
24:29 I dont know, Legion 7i looks balanced to me
I'd go with the M17 if I was in the market for a new gaming laptop, stuff like the mechanical keyboard being loud and pingy doesn't really matter much on a gaming laptop for me at least.
Could you please review the top of the line Legion, I would like to see how it compares to the current line up.
24:29 I dont know, Legion 7i looks balanced to me for gaming plus everday use
They missed out on Lenovo Legion's and Asus' Scar SE editions.
SMH
The MSI looks to be most balls to the walls one.
I've been looking at the Legion 7 with the 6850 for a few months now. I keep flipping between that and an L7 with the 3070ti. The AMD L7 I'm looking at has a 6800H/6850M XT combo and not the 6900HX. I think I still might go the AMD L7 route since I do zero creative work and just want the battery life for working on the go and solid gaming when plugged in at home.
I personally have the Legion 7 with 6900HX and 6850M XT and I absolutely love it! It doesn't get hot on the keyboard deck when playing games and definitely has much better battery life than the Intel version.
Yes the Legion 7 Amd is the best laptop of 2022. Best performance, cool and quiet
@@SwiftArrowMCSGPvP such a good buy
@@SwiftArrowMCSGPvP Do you think I'm missing much by getting the 6800H version as it is the only one available to me right now? Lenovo's site has the 6900HX/2 TB version but has been OOS for months.
The 6800H is 1 TB and $200ish cheaper than than the one on Lenovo's site.
@@gandoo10 nah definitely not, especially for gaming you won't notice a difference and you might even get slightly better battery life since it's a less powerful CPU.
bro prices are insane now, i bought an msi laptop right when the 10 series dropped and it was the highest end msi one you could buy at the time (2016) had a 1060 & i7 6700k and it was $1,600
MSI is just crazy here, 5K for a laptop with a Full HD display is ridiculous. Yes it is 360hz but lets be honest, very few people actually play on laptop screens. I would just get the Alienware or the Strix (most probably the Strix) and pair it with a good 2.5K external display (and still be under 3K $).
Just bought the m17, i bought it for video editing. My first gaming laptop.
Think I made a good buy, from the reviews ive watched. Thank you for your comparison, I was actually looking at both those, msi way out of my price range though.
The other thing I noticed about the MSI laptop is that for 5K, it has no USB-C ports. That's a big deal for anyone using USB-C pass-through for display, or using it for VR.
Got a scar 15 last year, not having a webcam was a big plus for me. Makes the bezel extremely thin
Which one would you recommend I get: Helios 300 or rog strix g17?[
M17 looking good for me as the main selling point for me was the Davinci Resolve performance. Didn't mind about the keyboard since I'm gonna use my custom keyboard anyway. Then the price just made it an easy pick for me, plus the 4K display and minimalist design of Alienware are bonus. Thank you for the video! If not for you I wouldn't know M17 was this good. I only know the specs but didn't know the real life benchmarks.
I'd pick the Alienware for most of the same reasons you stated. Besides, as a Linux user I prefer AMD GPUs (and I don't like the way NVidia treats its customers).
Too bad is not a 16:10 screen.
Try the Legion 7
What about the wifi adaptor? I have the Asus G15 advantage edition and I've noticed that the wifi turns off when the laptop goes to sleep and requires a wifi adaptor reset to turn it back on or a full restart of the laptop.
It's $20 to change it out though.
Why isn't the Asus Scar 17 SE on this list? Its using the i9 12950HX processor, 32GB DDR5 ram, 2 1TB m.2 in RAID 0, RTX 3080 TI, 1440p 240Hz screen. This laptop is super fast and i thought was the second fastest in 2022, the 1st being the MSI GT77.
You are right 👍
You should try the ROG Strix SCAR 17 SE which use the i9-12950HX and RTX 3080Ti with whooping 175W TGP
the term
"desktop replacement notebook"
is almost 20 years old.
you make it sound sooooo FRESH
6:40 when you have no fear travelling because your power supply is a deadly weapon 😅
Which one is the best laptop for Machine Learning? Am a data analyst and regularly chew through data that sometimes goes in GB's, and workloads are mostly handled via GPUs cores. I was told it's the Alienware, but need an opinion on that.
I wonder, why not cut that battery life in these 17 inch laptops to make room for extra cooling, more storage or to save weight? It's not like people buy 17 inch laptops to use it on battery for more than a couple of hours. I guess that is too radical of a concept.
True lol
@HardwareCanucks The bar charts at 22:12 look slick. What software did you guys use to create these?
What About The ASUS STRIX SCAR 17 SE ?
I have one big question. Does the "manufacturer" power mode ovverride the windows power plan or how does it work?
Acer Predator Helios 300 with RTX 3060 for $999. The price to performance ratio is insane considering these laptops.
2021 version is the worst
@@Smart_boy2001 I am talking about the 2022 model which is redesigned with 12700H, 3060, 16 GB DDR5 and much better thermals and TDP than 2021.
@@kurroth
How much is the TDP?
@@Smart_boy2001 GPU TDP is 140W
wow that same laptop but with DDR4 costs £2,000 in UK.
nice video bro
I have the Alienware M17 R5 with the 3070. Performance is great but Alienware still needs to work on tuning or something. I have a few games that I play on ultra or high with FPS above 50 and randomly it will drop to low 20s to 12 fps. Thermals are all good and no throttling just goes slow for a few seconds to about a minute. Did you experience any random slow downs?
can you also measure delay? i noticed my Asus Rog Strix Scar III laptop has delay isues (i noticed that cause i use external sound card)
I'll probably get the Scar 17. Strong and fast. Although the Legion and Alienware is also on the table.
Legion 7 Amd best 2022 laptop.
"Meh M1/M2 chips are better faster and efficient also more portable than these shit" comment incoming
What is your mic 🎤? It really has a good audio quality
Sr, I like to thank you for going straight to the point form the beginning of the video 🙏💯❤️ I subscribed 👍
The alienware x17 r1's power brick is LITERALLY the size of a brick. It's enormous.
Would all 3 of these be able to be used as a screen for say playing switch games along with streaming all from the laptop??
These would all be overkill for running switch games, the recommended specs are a gtx 1650 but can run fine on integrated graphics (at least as well as the switch obviously go for the 1650 if you want 60fps)
used as a screen? no, i dont know of any laptop that allows video in. can it run them in emulation? like the other guy said, very easily
Definitely not in the market for any of these, but if I were I think the m17 would be my choice. I really wish that Dell/Alienware would get rid of that ugly screen size etching on the back, I was interested in the 14" Alienware a couple of months and that part of the design was a big turn-off.
Very interesting!
This is an incredible comparison video of the 3 best laptops for gaming. Thank you Ebert.
Of the three shown, I would almost have to flip a coin between the alienware and the ASUS... I probably lean towards the ASUS. And that would be a straight up same price situation, with the price being a little lower again I have to give the ASUS a tad more of weight, but much of what I consider necessary in a desktop replacement includes a certain balance... Fact is I'm really intrigued by the alienware, so I would probably have to go in store to test out the ergonomics on it before I can make a decision one way or the other
Also, FYI, I just dropped 64 Gigs of Corsair Vengeance DDR5/4800 RAM into My ASUS ROG (mind you, mine is the 15.6-inch version, not 17-inch), and it recognizes the full 64 gigabytes. Corsair is also much faster than the generic RAM that was in the system. I saw a big performance boost this AM on Cyberpunk, which is kind of my benchmark these days due to the heavy load it puts a system under.
There has been some confusion over this, as various docs from ASUS indicate either 32 or "24" gigabytes maximum capacity, but others had found 64 works fine. Not sure if the manual has a typo or someone screwed up correcting 32 to 64, and accidentally typed 24, but either way, the ASUS ROG laptops can handle 64 gigs of RAM no problem.
I tried to run a model of streak at 1080p It was going a amazing 1 fps!
I don't think these are the fastest gaming laptop, like you could had choose the Strix Scar series instead of the G series, but then i guess if your video says on comparing a Intel + Nvidia vs AMD + Nvidia vs full AMD, then i guess that's alright?
But then if you want the fastest AMD + Nvidia gaming laptop, look no further than the Legion 5 Pro
I'm looking at Gigabyte Aero 16 with 3070ti, 4k Oled. It's only $1300
My question Sr, I found Acer predator i9, 165HZ what do you think.. If I am mistaken games can run 122HZ at max... So Acer can do 165HZ isn't that more than enough ? Is that right or wrong... That games can run 122HZ at maximum?
Why compare the Alienware AMD version and not the Intel version with the Nvidia graphics card?
Why not
there is an issue with the 6900 cpu from amd. i have it on my g14 and i have to say, it stays pegged at high power draw even in silent mode. i have managed to drop it to normal power draw using registry editor commands to unlock the options in windows. I really want to test it in games and other things to see how well the overall system performs by allocating power to the gpu primarily
Can I ask what the minimum power is set to in your power plan? I have yet to get a device where that setting isn’t at 100%
@@Collin_J power plan is suprisingly useful for tuning. best to go in and set minimum to 1%, but something to consider is max is base clock so if you go below 100% it'll kill all boost plus some extra. for instance i have my battery mode capped at 50%, and even though the boost is 3.9 the base clock is only 2.2 so that means i capped it at 1.1ghz.
just something to consider
I wish msi put the 12th gen i9-12900k desktop cpu on the gt 77 titan like the 9th gen i9-9900k desktop cpu from the gt 76 titan and have a 4k mini led display from the creator 17.
Why didn't you boost the 3070 ti to 150W ? At 150w it is closer to 3080ti...
i have 4 years old msi laptop and im still can play new aaa games ofcourse on lower graphics but still playable
0:12 I'm going to stop your right there... It's called a desktop
or an external gpu
(seriously you'd be stupid to pay 5k for a machine that can be beaten by a 1.5k desktop or 2k laptop+egpu)
could you guys do a video on best laptops with type c charging? i need one for being on the road and i discovered the chungus chargers these things need are just deal breakers.
considering that the Type-C standard was limited to 100W up until recently (now 240W).. the answer is nothing in this class.
@@klumzyee its still 100w, because no cord or port for any device currently does more than that. even macbook has their magsafe to do 140w. we might see 240w in like 3-5 years.
and im aware it wouldnt be this category, thats why i asked for a seperate video of a seperate category
@@bradhaines3142 Lenovo does offer 135watt usb c charging.
I got an Acer Nitro 5 with a 1080p 360hz screen, Ryzen 7 5800H, 32GB RAM, and RTX 3080 on sale for only $1300 lmao. It takes the cake
That is the most useless screen to have for a laptop, paying for a nice laptop to only limit it at 1080p is insane and you aren't even going to get that max refresh rate which makes it even more pointless
@@samgoff5289 depends what games he plays. The laptop is a good buy if he connects it to external screen.
Can we just have a list of the best built gaming laptops?
Im super late but just grabbed a m17 ryzen 9 with 3070ti from an open box deal @ $1k usd. In love 💖💖
Will NEVER EVER buy another MSI laptop. The one I'm using required a hinge fix before it was 3 months old and it was handled gingerly. It now requires a new keyboard (typing this on a bluetooth keyboard) but that requires a TOTAL disassembly of the laptop. VERY POORLY designed!
MSI laptops are garbage, yes. All of them still use the same ancient components as the ones from 10 years ago.
Which one did you have?
@@floating_diffusion GE73 Raider RGB 8RF-077CA
And seriously, no Scar 17 SE?
IMO, these heavy weight gaming laptops are no desktop replacement. I might as well build a mini-itx pc instead.
That dragon looks like an 8-year old drew it. Is everyone at MSI blind? You’ve removed the front panel on your O11 Air Mini, were the thermals way better without it?
A better comparison in price would be the MSI Raider GE77HX at $1900 currently on amazon. Now you are not talking twice the price. I looked at the Alienware and it is just missing too much, like they were using a cheap motherboard to save $.
I was expecting a "This is what the webcam looks like on the g17"
And then shows a black screen
Are u selling it cuz I want one
The Legion 7 Amd is the best laptop of 2022.
I agree. Mine was $1800. That is insane for what you get.
You must be tripping or do this on purpose for not using the Rog Strix Scar 17 SE which is literally have an i9 12950hx + rtx3080ti that on par with the performance of the GT77, instead you included the Strix 17 that uses an amd processor and just 3070ti and said “the fastest gaming laptop from asus”???
Same goes for Alienware, the best performance gaming laptop they have at the moment is the X17r2 which has an i9 12900hk + rtx 3080ti not the lower M17r5 with amd configuration LoL. I’ve seen many bullshit videos on this channel, and this one just take it to another level 🤣
I agree with you. They missed razer and eluktronics
So are these prices in USD or CDN Prices?
At the end of 2022 lacking of enough usb 4.0 ports or thuderbolt 4 ports is a big fault
Whaat? where is Lenovo Legion lineup?
He recently did a whole video dedicated to legion 7i
I would really like to see something on Windows laptops with the best battery life.
HP and Lenovo Legions were not harmed in the making of this video 😎
the strix se tho?
Where's the legion 7i? That's probably better than all 3 of these.
So, no Acer Swift X?
How about MSI laptop ?
Alienware YES
I’m so happy I don’t need a portable PC. I do not miss my laptop gaming days one bit. Glad they’ve gotten way better these last 5 years though. They used to be so trash.
YOUR COMPLAINING BC THAT LAPTOP TAKES 10 SECONDS TO OPEN FILES? MINE TAKES OVER TWO MINUTES IF IT DOESNT FREEZE DURING IT. BUT USUALLY IT FREEZES AT LEAST THREE TIMES FOR OVER 30 SECONDS. HELP
Nah, no legion 7?
Just purchased the m17 r5 Dell has a discount I got it for 1200 usd
New titan g77 is already announced)
M17 ❤️🔥
Where is ACER TRITON/HELIOS ?
You missed the GOAT, Legion 7/7i
MSI will be refreshed soon with 4090 and 13980xt
Wow thats a great deal for that Alienware M17 R5 compared to the crappy Best Buy model for $2300. The model at Best Buy has only 1080p, 16 ram, and a 3070ti. The 1080p is what kept me away from it