"Confessions Of A Champion Algo Trader" - Kevin Davey | Trader Interview

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  • Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
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    In this episode of the Desire To Trade Podcast, I sit down once more with full-time algo trader Kevin Davey.
    Kevin was first on the podcast in 2016 (episode 067) and was one of the traders that made me interested in algorithmic trading.
    In this episode, we go over how Kevin was able to create his automated trading strategies.
    If that's a topic you're interested in, I'd highly recommend going through Kevin's new book: geni.us/7ZqHY
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 136

  • @DesireToTRADE
    @DesireToTRADE  5 років тому +18

    What's your #1 takeaway from this interview?

    • @Scribbinge
      @Scribbinge 5 років тому +7

      That I should find better places to source new ideas. I'm exactly like Kevin described - I stare at charts trying to think of ideas for hours. I understand price action & technical analysis. I understand backtesting for an edge. I feel like I have the discipline to do well at trading. I just find myself throwing together random entry conditions in the hope of finding something that works with a positive expectancy, and feel like I will never come up with an edge.

    • @highgradetrade6014
      @highgradetrade6014 5 років тому +6

      Algo traders don't trust themselves

    • @Jasperforex
      @Jasperforex 5 років тому +4

      @@highgradetrade6014 exactly and crave exactness.

    • @ohthefuture7618
      @ohthefuture7618 5 років тому +8

      @@highgradetrade6014 Exactly....we trust our algos. Emotionless proven algos.

    • @highgradetrade6014
      @highgradetrade6014 5 років тому +2

      bruh i trade better than your algo

  • @fxsurgeon1
    @fxsurgeon1 2 роки тому +14

    So happy to hear from him things which I discovered myself in the past 6 months grinding at it. Optimization is overrated. Simple is best. What a great guy.

    • @brandenhamptin89
      @brandenhamptin89 Рік тому

      Make research about Smith Trust Bk, once you find the platform you will definitely find their support e-mail address on top of the page. Reach out to them and tell them you want to learn how to make huge profits from the foreign exchange markets.

  • @DrGrant-jw6xh
    @DrGrant-jw6xh 5 років тому +9

    I discovered Kevin in 2017 before I graduated from University by doing my due diligence. It was a trader education review website and Kevin received 5 stars, and even provided a picture of his tax return. I was lucky to purchase his Algo material at a discount and will sign up with him soon after I get accustom to discretionary trading.
    Thank you, Etienne for interviewing Kevin. Your channel has been a valuable source of information.

    • @DesireToTRADE
      @DesireToTRADE  5 років тому

      That's awesome to hear! I'm glad you liked the interview!

  • @Sendzik23
    @Sendzik23 2 роки тому +7

    Trading View has a language name Pine Script. I re-read that manual 4 times and took notes. I've been coding for a year and get a lot of Ideas from the Boss Etienne himself and his guests. Etienne has legends on his channel, take some time and watch the videos!
    Dope ass interview man. Much respect to you!

    • @DesireToTRADE
      @DesireToTRADE  2 роки тому +1

      That's great to hear! I'm very glad to know :)

    • @Sendzik23
      @Sendzik23 2 роки тому +1

      @@DesireToTRADE I aspire to become one of those visiting legends on your channel :)

  • @howardhill3395
    @howardhill3395 2 роки тому +10

    The trading costs are in effect the "casino's edge". It makes sense that they kill many algo trading systems, as they are designed to do so.

    • @madimakes
      @madimakes Рік тому +2

      This is also a reason, at least in futures, why a small account won’t work well.

    • @jonaskarlberg1855
      @jonaskarlberg1855 3 місяці тому

      @@madimakes 200 K usd is minimum

  • @ianfenton9291
    @ianfenton9291 5 років тому +10

    Great interview! Your podcasts are addicting, keep them coming!

    • @DesireToTRADE
      @DesireToTRADE  5 років тому

      Will surely do :) thanks Ian!

    • @ianfenton9291
      @ianfenton9291 5 років тому +1

      @@DesireToTRADE
      The trader motavation videos are my favorite!

  • @madimakes
    @madimakes Рік тому +2

    17:22 this is something I had to learn the hard way, and I wish people would explain up front really!

  • @caljero-3347
    @caljero-3347 9 місяців тому

    Thank u very much for the video. I read two books from Mr. Davey and they were amazing.
    He said already that commission and fees will destroy most strategies. That's also my problem.
    I code on MT4 and 5. Yesterday I had a really good backtests- performing strategy on BTC. Forwardtesting the strategy loosed, because of fees.
    No my question: How or what is the best way to add fees on backtesting with mt4 or 5. Do u make a special calculation in the mql code? Or how do u manage it?
    Thank u and best regards

  • @tradejason956
    @tradejason956 5 років тому +7

    Thanks for listening. Love it.👍

    • @DesireToTRADE
      @DesireToTRADE  5 років тому +1

      I'm glad you liked the interview, Jason!

    • @tradejason956
      @tradejason956 5 років тому +3

      Would really like to see how your going E with your algo projects. One day I'd like to show you mine

    • @DesireToTRADE
      @DesireToTRADE  5 років тому +2

      Yeah I'll do videos on that soon!

  • @brucesmith6868
    @brucesmith6868 5 років тому +18

    I would love to explore algo's but I want to do it manually so I understand it first.

    • @DesireToTRADE
      @DesireToTRADE  5 років тому +3

      I think it's a good idea, Bruce! Keep it up :)

    • @davidkaiser3105
      @davidkaiser3105 2 роки тому +1

      I started with spreadsheets. I have talent programming them, so that might be a barrier for others. But it allowed me to analyze each trade and learn deeply.

    • @fxsurgeon1
      @fxsurgeon1 2 роки тому

      That would be limiting to what algos can do. Some of them open and close multiple trades at the same time which is impractical when done manually, to say the least.

    • @lescommercantesdindochine1954
      @lescommercantesdindochine1954 2 роки тому

      If you are sufficiently diversified, that might be challenging... depending on the time frames/frequency you are dealing with, of course.

    • @itslike123
      @itslike123 Рік тому

      Manually you can't backtest quickly on multiple stocks and different time frames.

  • @RobertBilling
    @RobertBilling 4 роки тому +7

    Thanks for this great video, it has so much value in it listening to Kevin and all his experience. I am new to creating forex robots and this gave me alot of great insights. Keep up the good work!

    • @DesireToTRADE
      @DesireToTRADE  4 роки тому

      Thank you very much! One more interview a week here: ua-cam.com/play/PLwmpbNUnTt6gL4jdULaMVuMi24O8KPZqw.html

  • @ohthefuture7618
    @ohthefuture7618 5 років тому +6

    Whooaaa this is that guy!? I know this guy's work.

  • @comptegoogle511
    @comptegoogle511 2 роки тому +1

    A good exemple of people who are 50% algo/50% Manuel would be the people in the New York time zone using an Algo to take a position at the beginning of the London session at 3:00 a.m.- 4:00 a.m. eastern time and close it with the price action between 6:00 a.m. and 6:30 a.m. estern time.

    • @DesireToTRADE
      @DesireToTRADE  2 роки тому

      I'll do some research on that. Sounds like a good idea!

  • @mastereymaster8180
    @mastereymaster8180 4 роки тому +2

    If you trade and seat infront of your laptop or a cp the system read your mind and drive you to a wrong way to put your position and regret and exit with loss and the better way to do is use multiple time frame and understand all formation in every tf .

  • @TwiztedHumor
    @TwiztedHumor 2 роки тому +2

    He speaks the truth!

  • @heinzerhardt3540
    @heinzerhardt3540 5 місяців тому

    Thank you. Just what I needed. ✅

  • @andrewmuchtar9286
    @andrewmuchtar9286 2 роки тому +2

    I never backtest, I test directly with real data on a demo account. And, I am happy with my algo. Thank you Etienne.

  • @iomensch
    @iomensch 5 років тому +2

    Where did the comment thread go where he mentions the company he works with? Why did you delete it?

    • @DesireToTRADE
      @DesireToTRADE  5 років тому +1

      I did not delete any comments... it's either UA-cam or the comment author

  • @demebox3607
    @demebox3607 3 роки тому +2

    I have many ideas but not enough knowledge with backtesting and programming, how do I find people to implement my ideas?

    • @DesireToTRADE
      @DesireToTRADE  3 роки тому

      You could find people this way: ua-cam.com/video/L_YrgmSI8bE/v-deo.html
      Or you can learn to backtest (it's quite simple): ua-cam.com/video/8Z99CKfbSEA/v-deo.html

    • @alexmarty6138
      @alexmarty6138 3 роки тому

      Can help ya out ;)

  • @TJPADILHA
    @TJPADILHA Рік тому

    Have you trade binary option ?

  • @FighterFred
    @FighterFred 3 роки тому +2

    If he'd described ways to get max 4% daily drawdown and 10% return in a month then this interview would've had value.

    • @tonic973
      @tonic973 3 роки тому +2

      And maybe how to get 5% return the month after😊

  • @PauloSousa-wf6mg
    @PauloSousa-wf6mg Рік тому +1

    I have a lot of difficulties understanding what you say man... please express yourself clearly, your guests are great but I have the feeling that I lose half of the content due to the lack of understanding of your questions... good content though

  • @mikiallen7733
    @mikiallen7733 4 роки тому +2

    Hi Kevin , great interview , yet I would like to know how do I add correlation matrix as a feature in it is own right to generate signals in algo program?

  • @user-mz7zp7lg7m
    @user-mz7zp7lg7m 5 років тому +2

    Thanks

  • @tqbrowne
    @tqbrowne 4 роки тому +2

    So much great information!

  • @BlackJesus8463
    @BlackJesus8463 4 роки тому +3

    What gets me is that an idea can be good for one market one time frame one risk:reward and fail terrifically everywhere else. That idea that got thrown away could be a goldmine. lol :(

  • @TehBr0
    @TehBr0 5 років тому +2

    Great interview, thanks!

  • @DG10-youtube-channel
    @DG10-youtube-channel 2 роки тому

    I read Kevin's book, would like to ask why he does not use Metatrader platform? Thank you

    • @DesireToTRADE
      @DesireToTRADE  2 роки тому +1

      Because MT4 is limited to Forex. Kevin is trading more assets.

    • @DG10-youtube-channel
      @DG10-youtube-channel 2 роки тому

      @@DesireToTRADE thanks for the answer but it brings another question.. Why none of american brokers use metatrader? It can be used for all tradable securities... in Brazil many brokers offer MT5 to trade stocks, futures, etc. Why USA brokers don't? Is there a law in US against metatrader? Thanks

  • @LukaszAdams
    @LukaszAdams Рік тому

    Notes:
    Most ideas dont work, try on short amount of data and See if ther is point to give this idea shot
    - some ideas work on one market but dont work on other market
    - most ideas work when you dont have cost like big spread or fee broker like in ecn broker
    - optymilization in backtest almost always make you worst futute results
    -

  • @AmitAnand03
    @AmitAnand03 Рік тому

    Thanks for this great video!

  • @srs3505
    @srs3505 4 роки тому +1

    Very Candid , Excellent

  • @ronredmond
    @ronredmond 2 роки тому +1

    Ninja Trader is C# (C Sharp)

  • @wyattliu3637
    @wyattliu3637 Рік тому

    Also people’s backrest works until your money is too heavy or too obvious to other algo / institutions then in real life will hunt you. But if any system cannot pass back test, there is guaranteed perform worse in real life. I use 1min to penalize me by buy and sell at worst price so it would work for something like a 15min system to avoid being too optimistic. At the end of the day, probably only trade 4-5 times like a human but a lot less sweet

  • @atillahun9118
    @atillahun9118 5 років тому +5

    Most important question for me is, how much did he made ? So I can decide continue to watch or not .

    • @HateDietPepsi
      @HateDietPepsi 11 місяців тому

      According to his videos he makes on average $500/month per algo. He runs multiple algos on different futures and stocks for diversity and from my understanding he runs between 25-35 algos.

  • @DedSec44
    @DedSec44 Рік тому

    good interview

  • @floriankonig4552
    @floriankonig4552 Рік тому

    Watched it at 1.25x speed ;) Good content, thank you.

  • @MamtaSharma-ly1nh
    @MamtaSharma-ly1nh 2 роки тому

    very nice video

  • @user-jw4bm6oh9r
    @user-jw4bm6oh9r 4 місяці тому +1

  • @CaptainOfBay
    @CaptainOfBay 5 років тому +2

    I liked the interview and I like your channel but there are some crucial questions and topics that were never even mentioned.
    What about Quantitative Trading? What about HFT? I mean most people know that in today's markets with hedge funds and institutionals spending astronomical budgets to develop super sophisticated algorithms with hundreds of people working on them, it's naive to even think that you can make alone a profitable system and beat them all. This interview sound like it was recorded 20 years ago and doesn't take in account any of the changes that have occurred since then. I would be very curious to know if those algorithms Kevin Davey has developed are still consistently profitables today.

  • @ManMountainManX
    @ManMountainManX 3 роки тому

    TY.
    /

  • @theuksymphonix7151
    @theuksymphonix7151 Рік тому +1

    Highlited many points and half of them are useless unless you've got a profitable mechanical trading system..why don't you interview actual traders that actually show their systems..

  • @joso7390
    @joso7390 3 роки тому

    WAIT, at minute 36, if you are not planing your exit at a stop loss or target profits, then based on what you should program your exit !!!! that doesn't make sense .

    • @agedvagabond
      @agedvagabond 3 роки тому +2

      Hes talking about making the system exit based on rules rather than hard stops, essentially a variable stop loss something I do myself.
      The benefit is that most of your losses will be cut way more efficiently than a hard stop, I've found most of my algos stops losses at around break even.

    • @lescommercantesdindochine1954
      @lescommercantesdindochine1954 2 роки тому

      One can base a close of trade on conditions rather than a predetermined price.

  • @manuzrp1
    @manuzrp1 2 роки тому +1

    People get caught up in the optimisation process.
    But all the optimisation does is curve fit the past.
    Building a better backtest almost always leads to worst results.

  • @mbeliv3763
    @mbeliv3763 3 роки тому

    Robin Hood doesn’t have trading cost

  • @soykanilhan8349
    @soykanilhan8349 Рік тому

    Can you add Turkish subtitles please

    • @soykanilhan8349
      @soykanilhan8349 Рік тому

      @Richard Mark It's counted... It's been about 3.5 years, but I can't say that I've been very successful.

  • @BigWickTraders
    @BigWickTraders Рік тому

    I wish I could understand the questions 😂

  • @ch3ckm8
    @ch3ckm8 4 роки тому +7

    People using "algo trading" nowadays as a catch phrase trying to make something sound complicated. Whether be it manual, automated, or artificial intelligence, it's gonna be the same trading methodology as the price can only go up, down, or sideways. There is nothing the market hasn't done before that will be different.

    • @DesireToTRADE
      @DesireToTRADE  4 роки тому

      That's very true! It sounds complicated but the logic is the same!

    • @Nnm26
      @Nnm26 3 роки тому +3

      math used to be counting and all about 1 + 1 = 2 and now we have calculus. So yeah, the point you're making doesn't work. Complexity stems from simplicity. Knowing how the chess pieces move doesn't make you good at chess.

    • @ch3ckm8
      @ch3ckm8 3 роки тому

      @@Nnm26 LOL such a horrible analogy. Just because you created a chess bot, doesn't mean it's gonna win against a human player lol

    • @Nnm26
      @Nnm26 3 роки тому

      @@ch3ckm8 did you seriously just say that? My guy, maybe check on the level that chess bot is currently on right now. Even the world champion can't even compete with a simple chess bot on your phone. So yeah, maybe make a counter argument using another example.

    • @ch3ckm8
      @ch3ckm8 3 роки тому

      @@Nnm26 my boy. You think all chess bots are equal? LOL let's see you create a chess bot then 😂
      Just because the best technology exists, doesn't mean everyone has the access and ability to create it. Same with "algo trading" lmfao. Sure, there are great algos out there, but doesn't mean every "algo trader" is using that hahahaha

  • @explorster
    @explorster Рік тому

    ES 5 points a day and out for day. Stop over trading and being greedy

  • @Rohit-oz1or
    @Rohit-oz1or 5 років тому +2

    If he is so knowledgeable, why is he promoting his books?

    • @DesireToTRADE
      @DesireToTRADE  5 років тому +9

      If you wrote a book, don't you think you would promote it too?

    • @Rohit-oz1or
      @Rohit-oz1or 5 років тому +1

      @@DesireToTRADE I would happily mint money by using my systems and not go into the hassle of first-writing a book and then taking pains to promote it

    • @nickk9499
      @nickk9499 4 роки тому +11

      @@Rohit-oz1or Rohit , some people like to spend their spare time educating other people, wheather for free or not, they like to pass on their knowledge and give back and teach newer traders and the younger upcoming generation and leave their mark/contribution in the trading community

    • @awalroble7884
      @awalroble7884 4 роки тому +2

      Do you realise books are one of the biggest selli g products of all times more than music!

    • @smittyoptions
      @smittyoptions 4 роки тому +2

      Nick K you are awesome great reply!

  • @at_trades3869
    @at_trades3869 4 роки тому

    You have the toughest accent to understand

  • @druntopronto7598
    @druntopronto7598 Рік тому

    can you recommend good videos of yours , they would have real value?

  • @druntopronto7598
    @druntopronto7598 Рік тому

    at 5'10" "when price goes down just kept buying" ...for wtf would you do that, man??? engineer background omg. no no no its painful for me i am losing brain cells when i have to listen to this crap anymore. how many years did he need to make some money? is this his reincarnation?