omg there are SO many of these here I'm a technician in the Army, we use those toughbooks in pretty much anything that need communication with land signals, like tanks, remote antennas, artillery, ANYTHING there are thousands of those coming here every month for routine check-up, classified program/map imaging and fixing (usually swapping the HDD or the keyboard) that card reader may be the most important thing in there, as it is what used to identify the soldier and his security access level also that modularity is really important here, because those who fix them (I'm not in there), don't actually know how to open a laptop and disconnect and check stuff. they simply hot swap those broken modules with good ones. saves alot of resources from teaching the technicians how to handle an actual laptop
@@Fringeless lol, stop trolling. The chinese manufacture these things in the first place so they dont need to "copy" them...they have the same tech we do
@@Notimotl hmmm. Great point. Another reviewer probably already removed them? Or these are the models not meant for sell but for development so the designers would be ready to take them apart as well.
I love toughbooks, after using them in the military I have owned a Toughbook ever since. At the moment I have a Toughbook 20, which is a tablet that connects to a full laptop base. As I use it on my sailboat, it gets pretty dirty and knocked around a bit, with no damage. I’ve even dumbed it into the ocean once while at anchor, after rinsing it with fresh water and than alcohol, it worked perfectly. Thankfully, as it was my only computer at the time and had all of my charts on it. I love these laptops and will always have one in possession, no matter the cost.
You're a liar and a bad one at it. Everyone in the entirety of the military despises these. I know because I'm in the Marines and I haven't found one person that has anything good to say about them. I use them every day aswell
@@alphamale3085 Each to his own but calling me liar because I happen to like something makes absolutely no sense. I also made no claim that others enjoyed them the way I do. I also stuck with one version, their convertible, in which I've owned the CF-18, CF-19 and now the 20 which is my first all tablet model from them. Besides being on the thick side, these laptops have all been great to own.
@@alphamale3085 bruh u sound like one of those drunk pro army dudes screaming “sToLeN vAlOr after a dude provides is and proof 😂 calm yer shit this dude sounds like he’s in the navy (Known to marines as the Girl Scouts) and the navy and marines (Marines known to some navy sailors as crayon eaters) so there’s bound to be beef, so just chilley
The dual bays that can take batteries, plus the design of that optical drive, is very reminiscent of my Apple PowerBook G3 (Pismo) from 2000. The removable keyboard too, though the G3 used two thumb latches to let you pull it off without tools, with a third that had a screwdriver lock to prevent someone from swiping your RAM or other internals that were accessed that way.
@Max Paine Apple designs their products so they are hard to work on. Soldered in SSDs and RAM. Glued in batteries. etc. Apple pushes you to buy new not repair. That's why they don't like 3rd party repair facilities. They fix Apple products that Apple claims can't be fixed.
“For some reason it supports a car mount, why would you need a laptop in your car?” “They even use the example of a police cruiser” Linus... you know police use laptops in their cars, right?
But can you hear it while pissing onto the windshield of a cop car from the back of a fast-moving truck, while yelling "Pig! Pig! Oink, oink! Bacon sandwich at 2 o-clock!" I'm asking for a friend.
2:22 speaking from experience, Toughbooks have been used in the military, such as specific situations like on deployment in a FOB (Forward operating base). If the FOB gets attacked, overrun, or you just need to get the hell out of there quickly, taking the HDD out quickly is much much better than lugging every single laptop out of a makeshift office. Sensitive data must be secured or destroyed.
@@linusdn2777 Yeah alot of British gas engineers carried these too, I'm not saying the military don't use these but there are alot less "hardcore" jobs that still require it be just as rugged. I broke one with a single misplaced foot so I don't fancy it's chances in a combat situation 🤐
Sometimes they also take HDDs from dead laptops and drop them into new ones so that it’s still on a laptop even after the original one has a bullet in its screen
Panasonic remains my favorite brand. The exact opposite to what Apple does. Durability, modularity, studiness. They have this philosophy where everything is thought and made FOR the consumer. Most of all their TVs are excellent for their price. Only LG can compete (Sony being as good but way too expensive). Back when they made Plasma screens they had the best Tvs around for a very decent price. Their OLEDs are great and less expensive than other brands. I hope they will keep on making such good hardware and keep this respect for their clients.
Bruh panasonic decided to re-brand cheap vestel tvs for their lower class tvs which really suck.. for an expensive price because apparently youre buying a ''panasonic''.. but anything else is really high quality
"Don't remove both of them. That would cause it to turn off." Are you sure? Some Panasonic toughbooks come with a small internal battery that lasts some 5 minutes specifically for when you want to hotswap the battery.
@@fable9830 Might as well mention software rot that slows down a os over time a base windows installation will run faster than it will 6 months later with nothing installed no linux distro has this problem.
And he proceeds to play rocket league and nothing else, should at least see how it performs in other more demanding games or in benchmarking software like he does with everything else
Love the toughbooks, we use them up ladders all day, dropped them several times and only ever cosmetic damage, not even a blue screen after putting a dink in the concrete.
Absolutely............At last, a laptop that takes you back to the days when laptops were easy fix and todays crap....nowadays they don't even want to let you swap out a hard drive....take note HP
That’s the thing though - the vast majority of people don’t... There’s no way I’d lug something like this around unless my job required me to use my laptop in the field regularly (think first responders, or engineers working on utilities).
As a doctor i really could use one of those! In emergencies, or when the patient is not mobile enough to come to the practice, we have to go to the patient. We use cards to login to the medical record. So the card slot makes a whole lotta sense. In the near future we will be using our finger prints, nothing worse than forgetting your card at the practice. In Holland it rains a lot, a somewhat waterproof laptop is ideal just for the distance between the car and the front door. SIM card feature is also a must have so we can access our central terminal for the medical records. We now use outdated, though tough laptops with Windows XP lol. Tablets arent secure enough and are a pain. This looks really good! Thanks for the review
You can buy workplace-oriented laptops from Dell, HP, Lenovo, and a few others that have all of those features built in, and are significantly cheaper than a Toughbook. Add a carry case for travel and weather protection and you're golden. I've got a Thinkpad from 2015-ish that has fingerprint, smart card, and facial recognition capabilities. Thing is near indestructible.
Yeah, in EMS we just got a new set of a similar model. We have two on our ambulances, one up front for dispatch/call details and one in the back for patient data entry/call logging. It's especially useful now because it has a checklist of all the PUI criteria for the outbreak, like patient temperature and what PPE the crew used.
@@TheCallMeCrazy that actually sounds like a good idea! thanks! i will look it up, we fortunately don't need gaming laptops for our work, just reliable and robust
@@ninjabot567 i respect your job! i think because of the pandemic, the digitalization of the medical care will leap forward. if i look at our jobs and others we are way behind, many things can be automated, so we can do the important stuff
My electric bill went up 100$, so I decided to recharge my laptop primarily at work. I also installed the module that lets me charge via phone with the phone plugged in.
The reason for that super specific "police car with sirens and windows down" description is because the toughbook is one of the most popular police computers. About 90% of the time an officer pulls you over, he will run your info through a toughbook.
MacBook: "nooooooo did you just try to replace my ssd??? soo rudeeee" Panasonic Toughbook 55: "yeah feel free to swap the cpu while im running i dont care"
They knew exactly what they were getting into: durability testing! I talked once with a guy who bragged about delivering one of these by tossing it out the window of a moving vehicle (I'm not claiming that I disbelieve him, "just" that he was the sort I could imagine _laughing_ if he hit someone with it), so they take durability seriously.
When you are a long time watcher of lmg and know exactly which couple of videos and laptops the line don’t leave them out in the rain refence to. Looking back it still surprises me that they survived the Canadian rain
God bless Panasonic for making 90's style laptops with 2019 technology. _Someone_ has to make laptops for people who don't like throwing perfectly good hardware away every 3 years.
What Garbage said. These are used in many professional fields where the literal toughness is needed along with the ability to upgrade a module without replacing the entire unit. Ours are used in weather, get dropped, and used in situations that a /normal/ laptop would not survive in.
Then just... Don't throw it, repurpose it? Old laptops might be useless for 3D works, but it will be perfectly fine for text work, or, if you are in the industry, it can be used as a machine controller since that won't need a lot of performance and some software probably won't work in newer OS anyway.
The upgradeable GPU is a big deal but there's a couple of questions.What are the GPU options and will those options be made available for future graphics chips? The proprietary connectors and lack of a common laptop standard for swappable peripherals mean you may be limited to Panasonic only options. Since there is no guarantee for how long Panasonic will keep making peripherals then buying this laptop is a bit of a gamble. Also, can the CPU be upgraded on this model? It's a good laptop and a step back in the right direction but it's still built without the foundational standards that all manufacturers should adhere to and which would assure a longer future for upgrareable laptops. That is key.
Hey Linus! Luv your channel! I was a Panasonic Tough-book Tek and the adhesive strips are part of the KB (Keyboard) kit. The TB's are designed for serviceability and are fricken awesome. I still have my CF-29 that still holds a 5-6 hour charge. They even have rubberized Backlit Chiclets for the NYPD and had to use a large screwdriver to open the rear IO doors from all the coffee and doughnut sprinkles. Not even kidding bro! Lol!
Its mainly targeted for Mobility and rugged environments i.e. Military applications and Police Cars as well as construction, job sites etc. Everything you ever need is there.
@@daimientaylor3108 The construction business loves them as well. I use to be in site preparation construction(clearing land for Walmart type stores, shopping centers, major golf courses, roads, etc...), and my old boss carried around a Panasonic Toughbook in his truck with a PCMCIA cell modem, and a portable canon printer.
The reason it’s this modular is because the biggest customers of toughbooks are militaries, law enforcement, hospitals and organizations operating in hazardous areas like construction sites or a refugee camp in a war zone, etc. These are typically used by numerous people sharing 1 laptop. The information on it is usually sensitive too so it needs to be easily replaceable between users. Features like that card scanner also suit the needs of some of the aforementioned users, like an intelligence officer accessing confidential information that needs clearance using a card, or to be used as an ID scanner by the police(who also use that car dock you mentioned very frequently), or like you said, to access someone’s medical info. Some good work panasonic has done on this. A lot different than the tough book I owned years back but still looks to have that same grit and reliability
As an aviation mechanic, I have been using these for the last 15 years. We use the thicker ones and they really are tough. I have dropped them from wings many times. They really are a great product
I used to work at a skydiving company and one of the stories was about a guy who had dropped his 1500 feet when they were taking off and it still booted. These things are Nokia 3310 laptops.
This is actually pretty hilarious, considering these laptops are known to be very physically resilient. The one time Linus could (or even should) have dropped something, he didn't
"60 fps on all high quality in rocket league... Not UNusable, that's ok" My guy I used to play Minecraft on the lowest settings at 10 fps on my laptop XD
I am able to do both of those things with my Dell Latitude that I am currently using to type this comment.. in fact when I saw this comment, I plugged my laptop in, pulled the battery, pulled out the hard drive (the drive slide didn't come with screws for whatever reason, but it stays in place really good unless I deliberately pull on it so it's fine), and it did fine. :P
2:30 Real talk, from experience in the US military, the quick-swap hard drive is great for securing sensitive information in the safe; I couldn't imagine carrying out that necessary day-to-day task without the feature. Our devices were older so the stylus was tethered, but usually never used anyways.
Seriously, if every laptop were like that, and the bays used standardized formfactors and connectors, i'd never buy a desktop again. It's not like i need an RTX or I9... just solid midrange performance and lots of customization options to make it mine.
@@lyxar777 yea half of the time i play games, i don't notice the graphics as much. Maybe its because i play competitive games and focus on winning...but the point still stands. Who needs full ultra settings at 299fps anyways...maybe rich people
@@lyxar777 I don't even care about the customization options, I just want it to be durable, so I don't have to buy a machine that breaks if I open the screen too quickly once.
@@TheHadMatters exactly. Buy the time the average spendable income is factored in, if you can buy the tough book, it isn't actually getting upgraded, but since it hopefully lasts a LOT longer, by the time a normal laptop would break, maybe you can afford to upgrade the tough book instead. :)
@@ShaneOzouf That's why it is not built in, but available as a separate module. However, this is enterprise product. And technicians quite often have to work with all sorts of enterprise/industrial equipment. Unlike your typical consumer, that kind of equipment does not tend to be replaced every two-three years. And if needs to be interfaced with, that quite often happens via whatever means are common at a time of manufacture. I've seen perfectly fine working machines that get their programs brought on 5.25" floppies.
@@majstealth they don't sell this to consumer... i had to used company's info to get them... don't want it... it just overweight laptop.. that i can carry two laptop.... for the same weight...
The PowerBook G3 "Pismo" (1999/2000) had very similar upgradeability features (swappable bays -optical disks, additional HDD, Zip drives, Floppy disk.. there were many options in the market - and could house a hot swappable second battery, giving up to 8-9 hours of life, incredible for the time). Was a very easy opening laptop - just flip the "zero screws" keyboard - and could upgrade RAM, HDD, WiFi card, and even the processor, but not the graphics card. Nice to see that the concept is still around.
Lenovo still does some rugged Thinkpads in their student lineup, like the 11e, and yes I know not as configurable, or maybe even as powerful, but still a decent option for a general purpose laptop that's more rugged then most in it's price range.
This is like the X201 thinkpads but the modularity of the DOCK is built into the laptop itself. I still use 2-3 of them because they are so dang tough and handy. And the dock and accessories were cheap af
When i was working for the police we had one of the older toughbooks thrown out the window of a stolen police car during a chase, it sat in the mud and rain beside the motorway for 3 days before we recovered it. when we got it back to the workshop it turned on without a hitch. I don't think leaving this out in the rain would damage it.
I used to support this line as a tech due to working under an MSP contract for a small municipality (town). The car-dock feature is because these are often used in police cars. The MIL-STD 810H certification is because these things will sit in hot cars all day, and (at least in Vermont) will also sit outside in basically freezing temps. The temperature swings can destroy weaker machines. Combine with the shock and vibration rating, they're really reliable machines for that purpose. Officers get really mad if you remove solitaire from the base install because of how long they'll spend sitting in a cruiser sometimes. True story.
I work for a tech support company and when I was in trainibg our trainer said she have to do a replacement on a tough book that saved a us soldier life by taking a bullet
"They should've known what they were getting themselves into." They did. They told you NOT to leave it in the rain. If they didn't know what they were getting themselves into, they wouldn't have mentioned the rain.
I wonder if they can make a RTX variant of this. I'd buy it for sure. 40 hours of battery, good RAM, CPU, and even just something like a RTX 2060 mobile or GTX 1660 Super/Ti mobile would be epic.
Purpose of this laptop is having a reliable machine for certain conditions. It's not for gaming. Using overly sophisticated parts like powerful GPU would make it vulnerable, with overheating issues etc. I would rather want a very bright display with anti-reflective surface that can be used in direct sunlight.
In reference to the SSD: When I was in the Army a while back, we had toughbooks that could be used for classified data. Then it was standard IDE drives and one of the specifications is that the HDD must be able to be easily removed. This way the data on the drive could be stored in a safe when not in use. Some desktop PCs also had removable HDDs so they could switch from unlcass to at no higher than secret. Although that was almost 20 years ago (damn I'm old) I would imagine the US military probably still has a similar standard and why the SSD in these things are so easily removed.
that one exactly 20 years later, I'm a technician in the army. still using those HDD, still storing them away, and those are probably the same toughbooks used back then (windows XP is installed on the newer models, some are 98)
omg there are SO many of these here
I'm a technician in the Army, we use those toughbooks in pretty much anything that need communication with land signals, like tanks, remote antennas, artillery, ANYTHING
there are thousands of those coming here every month for routine check-up, classified program/map imaging and fixing (usually swapping the HDD or the keyboard)
that card reader may be the most important thing in there, as it is what used to identify the soldier and his security access level
also that modularity is really important here, because those who fix them (I'm not in there), don't actually know how to open a laptop and disconnect and check stuff. they simply hot swap those broken modules with good ones. saves alot of resources from teaching the technicians how to handle an actual laptop
Thank you for your comment, that gave some very valuable insights
Interesting !
Yup, it's been a couple years for me but we used em as blue force trackers and communications devices with our TOC. They can take a serious beating
@@wastedtalent1625 They actually made it so tough😂
@@Fringeless lol, stop trolling. The chinese manufacture these things in the first place so they dont need to "copy" them...they have the same tech we do
Finally a Laptop that is safe for Linus to handle
I'm sure he can figure out how to break it. I'm honestly surprised he didn't drop it.
"Finally a Laptop is safe for Linus to handle."
15:24 Linus rips keyboard off computer.
@@JoeyBelgier If you love the video idea. Watch then read. I know, I know. I love comments. I understand the pull!
Whehere is the warranty stickers
@@Notimotl hmmm. Great point. Another reviewer probably already removed them? Or these are the models not meant for sell but for development so the designers would be ready to take them apart as well.
I heard that if you buy 6 of them and shout "Toughbooks, assemble!" they become a self sentient sex robot.
That’s scary
@@idonthaveayoutubechannel4294 that's sexy. Can I configure it to have. A monster cock.
Kaydence Bernard it should be a setting in the bios
@@cool-person1161 thank cock. i mean god
Sounds like some form of "Weird Science" to me.
I love toughbooks, after using them in the military I have owned a Toughbook ever since. At the moment I have a Toughbook 20, which is a tablet that connects to a full laptop base. As I use it on my sailboat, it gets pretty dirty and knocked around a bit, with no damage. I’ve even dumbed it into the ocean once while at anchor, after rinsing it with fresh water and than alcohol, it worked perfectly. Thankfully, as it was my only computer at the time and had all of my charts on it. I love these laptops and will always have one in possession, no matter the cost.
That sounds like some hardcore tech. Boats aren't the friendliest for electronics at best of times, let alone when you drop them into the salt water.
You're a liar and a bad one at it. Everyone in the entirety of the military despises these. I know because I'm in the Marines and I haven't found one person that has anything good to say about them. I use them every day aswell
@@alphamale3085 Each to his own but calling me liar because I happen to like something makes absolutely no sense. I also made no claim that others enjoyed them the way I do. I also stuck with one version, their convertible, in which I've owned the CF-18, CF-19 and now the 20 which is my first all tablet model from them. Besides being on the thick side, these laptops have all been great to own.
@@falcovg2 No it's not, however after rinsing it down with distilled water, than alcohol and giving it time to dry, it booted up.
@@alphamale3085 bruh u sound like one of those drunk pro army dudes screaming “sToLeN vAlOr after a dude provides is and proof 😂 calm yer shit this dude sounds like he’s in the navy (Known to marines as the Girl Scouts) and the navy and marines (Marines known to some navy sailors as crayon eaters) so there’s bound to be beef, so just chilley
This laptop exist in both 2001 and 2019
Hadrian Diaz Yep
Had a toughbook 2002... Survived everything except a lightning strike... Oh how I miss it.
The dual bays that can take batteries, plus the design of that optical drive, is very reminiscent of my Apple PowerBook G3 (Pismo) from 2000. The removable keyboard too, though the G3 used two thumb latches to let you pull it off without tools, with a third that had a screwdriver lock to prevent someone from swiping your RAM or other internals that were accessed that way.
@@Cheesen77 I want to hear the story of how your laptop was struck by lightning 👀
@@AugustusBohn0 had lightning come in via the phone line plug in my house.. all phones and my laptop wich was plugged in via a modem "exploded"
Microsoft: We designed our new Laptop with repair in mind.
Panasonic: hold my SSD.
hold m ySSD and let my chassis thump yours to dust
Patrick Keller apple: I’m bout to make it even thinner
Hold my videocard. Hahaha
@Max Paine Apple designs their products so they are hard to work on. Soldered in SSDs and RAM. Glued in batteries. etc.
Apple pushes you to buy new not repair. That's why they don't like 3rd party repair facilities. They fix Apple products that Apple claims can't be fixed.
More like, hold my screws.
“For some reason it supports a car mount, why would you need a laptop in your car?”
“They even use the example of a police cruiser”
Linus... you know police use laptops in their cars, right?
Also many field engineering and technical people use laptops in vehicles.
@@zxej6879 I also imagine intelligence agencies would find it useful
I thought they all used a Rolodex
There are literally so many reasons someone would want to mount this in their car. I don't see how Linus let that go over.
If you speak about laptop on cars a police cruiser is not the first thing that comes into my mind
Can be heard even from a “police cruiser going down the highway with the windows open and the sirens on”
Criminals: _finally a laptop for me!_
In all fairness, most of the notebook computers you see in police cars are Tough Books. Panasonic knows it's market and MARKETs to them.
People who live in high crime areas: A LAPTOP FOR ME!
But can you hear it while pissing onto the windshield of a cop car from the back of a fast-moving truck, while yelling "Pig! Pig! Oink, oink! Bacon sandwich at 2 o-clock!"
I'm asking for a friend.
I mean these are what most cops have lol.
@@lovetoeatallthefood It's ok, Toughbooks are rated splash-proof lol
Man, wish we had a disk dri- *CHANGING MAG*
It’s sad that only 18 people got the joke.
Whatcha want?! Yea we got that too lol
Cover me!
RELOADING COVER ME
Need more power- *RELOADING*
2:22 speaking from experience, Toughbooks have been used in the military, such as specific situations like on deployment in a FOB (Forward operating base). If the FOB gets attacked, overrun, or you just need to get the hell out of there quickly, taking the HDD out quickly is much much better than lugging every single laptop out of a makeshift office. Sensitive data must be secured or destroyed.
I thought as much. Looks very military.
@@linusdn2777 Yeah alot of British gas engineers carried these too, I'm not saying the military don't use these but there are alot less "hardcore" jobs that still require it be just as rugged.
I broke one with a single misplaced foot so I don't fancy it's chances in a combat situation 🤐
Sometimes they also take HDDs from dead laptops and drop them into new ones so that it’s still on a laptop even after the original one has a bullet in its screen
Gotta cover up the war crimes somehow
@@normandy2501 which would be a perfect situation where you'd wanna be able to remove the SSD.
Panasonic remains my favorite brand. The exact opposite to what Apple does. Durability, modularity, studiness. They have this philosophy where everything is thought and made FOR the consumer.
Most of all their TVs are excellent for their price. Only LG can compete (Sony being as good but way too expensive). Back when they made Plasma screens they had the best Tvs around for a very decent price. Their OLEDs are great and less expensive than other brands. I hope they will keep on making such good hardware and keep this respect for their clients.
They make nice microwaves too
Sounds like its time for me to start buying Panasonic.
Bruh panasonic decided to re-brand cheap vestel tvs for their lower class tvs which really suck.. for an expensive price because apparently youre buying a ''panasonic''.. but anything else is really high quality
@@BluRay_4 hmmmkay. Does it count if I buy $1800-3900 OLED TVs? If not, I don't care.
@@dorianrawls1927 bruh no
Imagine seeing a officer gaming in his patrol car
They probably do that here all the time in Miami lol.
Playing Rocket League on 60fps high settings
They play shoot-em-ups every day, even without a laptop.
@@yorickhunt3371 ouch!!!
@@yorickhunt3371 so what kind of shmups they play on their toughbooks???
But Linus you forgot the extended mag and 8x zoom attachments.
and the ballistic missile fabricator
Where's the latex mask printer like in Mission Impossible?
Extended battery
He also forgot the M203!
With swappable foldable buttstock
"Don't remove both of them. That would cause it to turn off."
Are you sure? Some Panasonic toughbooks come with a small internal battery that lasts some 5 minutes specifically for when you want to hotswap the battery.
Holy shit
What the fuck
That's only if the machine has a Bridge Battery.
Wow
this thing is a sadistic laptop
Panasonic: "Don't leave it out in the rain"
Linus: "Ok... but I'm ripping off the keyboard"
Laptop: Has tons of upgrades.
Windows 10: Oh I don’t think so.
This is why linux is god
Skeleton God
Nah, Windows is god, Linus is good, but Windows is better
@@fable9830 Might as well mention software rot that slows down a os over time a base windows installation will run faster than it will 6 months later with nothing installed no linux distro has this problem.
Skeleton God
We used to have Ubuntu at school and it sucked
@@fable9830 now sucked in what way?
Linus: “You wanna see the graphics card?”
Me: *gorilla noises*
I inhaled my milkshake xD
And he proceeds to play rocket league and nothing else, should at least see how it performs in other more demanding games or in benchmarking software like he does with everything else
I literally shit.
@@mwbgaming28 it is probably because he already saw how "decent", if you could even call it that, it performed on rocket league
@@riffaute still worth seeing how it performs in benchmarks compared to other mobile GPUs
Apple: If you take out one screw your warranty is gone.
Panasonic: hahaha ssd goes bwoop
hot-swappable cpu go brrrrrrer.
Aaaaa you watch doctor Mike
@@wta1518 Then you realize they have 2 cpus
@@withatreat184 peewoop
Nobody: Laughed
Love the toughbooks, we use them up ladders all day, dropped them several times and only ever cosmetic damage, not even a blue screen after putting a dink in the concrete.
framework who?
First
@@catlife2why?
@@xanderplayz3446 idk I was bored
most interesting laptop of 2019, no joke.
Qyoon, how about i tell you that Expresscard did it better and first (2009)
@@rikdenbreejen5230 PCMCIA card slot would like to have a word with you! 😉
@John Dela Cruz Maybe so, but It was not first by a long shot!!
Well in the sea of "dual screen laptops with 1000000 Hz refresh rate" its nice to see some retro tech being updated.
It's been around for years.
This is what we still want from computers. Exactly this.
Some Guy Are you buying one?
But knowing that’s it’s over 2000 is not what I want. Exactly not what I want.
I don't know I don't know that’s exactly my thought.
Exactly my thought.
Absolutely............At last, a laptop that takes you back to the days when laptops were easy fix and todays crap....nowadays they don't even want to let you swap out a hard drive....take note HP
That’s the thing though - the vast majority of people don’t...
There’s no way I’d lug something like this around unless my job required me to use my laptop in the field regularly (think first responders, or engineers working on utilities).
So, how many modules can be attached to this laptop?
Panasonic: Yes
I wish more laptops like this were being made.
It's also a shame it's so expensive.
As a doctor i really could use one of those! In emergencies, or when the patient is not mobile enough to come to the practice, we have to go to the patient. We use cards to login to the medical record. So the card slot makes a whole lotta sense. In the near future we will be using our finger prints, nothing worse than forgetting your card at the practice. In Holland it rains a lot, a somewhat waterproof laptop is ideal just for the distance between the car and the front door. SIM card feature is also a must have so we can access our central terminal for the medical records. We now use outdated, though tough laptops with Windows XP lol. Tablets arent secure enough and are a pain. This looks really good! Thanks for the review
You can buy workplace-oriented laptops from Dell, HP, Lenovo, and a few others that have all of those features built in, and are significantly cheaper than a Toughbook. Add a carry case for travel and weather protection and you're golden.
I've got a Thinkpad from 2015-ish that has fingerprint, smart card, and facial recognition capabilities. Thing is near indestructible.
Yeah, in EMS we just got a new set of a similar model. We have two on our ambulances, one up front for dispatch/call details and one in the back for patient data entry/call logging. It's especially useful now because it has a checklist of all the PUI criteria for the outbreak, like patient temperature and what PPE the crew used.
My man come to Belgium the rain is horrible
@@TheCallMeCrazy that actually sounds like a good idea! thanks! i will look it up, we fortunately don't need gaming laptops for our work, just reliable and robust
@@ninjabot567 i respect your job! i think because of the pandemic, the digitalization of the medical care will leap forward. if i look at our jobs and others we are way behind, many things can be automated, so we can do the important stuff
It's missing a self-destruct button with a 10 second timer.
They probably offer another module for that. ;)
Lol
Probably a module for that.
Military approved option.
And I can't store my drone in there
I work EMS and we use tough books for our "paperwork". Would love the extra battery packs and the card reader
So are they plugged in always?
@@Cardboardtruck-vc2qw only while we're not with patients
And where I work, some places can have 120 min transport times + whatever on scene time is
@@gargalfargl I see so you take it out of the car/ambulance?
I came from the "gaming on a 25 year old laptop" so I wasn't expecting this to be a modern laptop from how it looked.
Many of Panasonic’s laptops haven’t changed design wise since 1995 or so
Imagine if they had batteries for every bay.
*UNLIMITED POWER*
NOT YET
ah yes
e n s l a v e d i o n s
My electric bill went up 100$, so I decided to recharge my laptop primarily at work. I also installed the module that lets me charge via phone with the phone plugged in.
With unlimited power comes unlimited responsibility
Not allowed to take spare batteries on planes
The reason for that super specific "police car with sirens and windows down" description is because the toughbook is one of the most popular police computers. About 90% of the time an officer pulls you over, he will run your info through a toughbook.
@CM HW Yepperdoodle
True
so apparently, they had experiences
Sounds about right based on the description of it
Fingerprint scanner makes sense after he said the police cruiser part
they should seriously make a gaming labtop like this
Swappable GPU
@@Hector-Romero GPU thermal throttles
you in vc: Hol on gotta swap to a cooled off GPU gotta be afk for 10 seconds
@@haxboi5492 stack of fridge gpus 🤣
@@haxboi5492 like changing the barrels on machine guns 😂
@@MickR0sco 'cover me, changing GPU!'
These also work great for mechanics, used an older tough book in the shop and it handled oil splash, water, 12 foot falls off lifts and still ran.
MacBook: "nooooooo did you just try to replace my ssd??? soo rudeeee"
Panasonic Toughbook 55: "yeah feel free to swap the cpu while im running i dont care"
You might not want to replace the CPU while it's on
@@aurakille2148 That the joke, i guess
@@aurakille2148 wooooooooooosssssssssssssssssshhhhsssssshjjjhssssssshhhgggghhhh
@@hairystyles4212 don't sleep on your keyboard, alright?
@@eggsnotvibing8082 what are you doinnghiaisohfiohdasdhsapdhioshiodshfiosdhifodsudhsui
2000: in 2019 we'll have flying boats
2019: oh my god this laptop has a sim slot
Well I think every laptop should have one I have to keep my phone hotspot always on for my laptop
We do have flying boats they're called seaplane and they have wheels so they can work on land as well. Although I doubt a seaplane would be road legal
Also 2019; This phone has a 3.5 mm jack!
@@dampmaky I mean Hovercrafts are technically flying.
@@dampmaky They had flying boats that could land on a road 80 years ago, fool!
Now this is the laptop that my mom will buy for us. Something that can be passed down to each generation.
I would be happy
This looks like a niceass laptop
Oh mother, do buy us a Panasonic toughbook immediately, and all the add-ons please and thank you
I'm sold for this laptop lol
Either this or some loser crapbook or some shii*y HP laptop that doesn't last 2 years, and the battery lasts half of that.
I have zero need for this.
But now I want one !!!
9:26 "Panasonic was VERY clear to me that I was NOT to leave it out in the rain."
Well, someone at Panasonic watched Linus' videos.
I laughed at that point in the video.
i immediately thought of that dell laptop video
And this ua-cam.com/video/E8211HNs4eY/v-deo.html
Linus: "They should have known what they were getting into............"
Panasonic: "Don't test the water resistance in the rain..."
hahahahahaha XD
]
Atleast they watch his videos
They knew exactly what they were getting into: durability testing! I talked once with a guy who bragged about delivering one of these by tossing it out the window of a moving vehicle (I'm not claiming that I disbelieve him, "just" that he was the sort I could imagine _laughing_ if he hit someone with it), so they take durability seriously.
Half surprised he didnt at least attempt to remove the display
When you are a long time watcher of lmg and know exactly which couple of videos and laptops the line don’t leave them out in the rain refence to. Looking back it still surprises me that they survived the Canadian rain
I'm disappointed that he didn't once use, "This isn't even my final form."
That's my new dream laptop now, if only it wasn't so expensive
Never thought the coolest laptop I'd see in 2019 was from Panasonic... lol
or a toughbook
r/whooosh
its a refrigerator
@@broodjenoodles I can't grasp what are you trying to say.
@@broodjenoodles Bruh, imagine changing your comment to make someone look bad
Computer: loading....
Panasonic laptop: *Reloading*!
Shiina Kirasaki
Need more ammo
420th like
Simps
@@CIRCUS_CEO empty account.. newly made.. to call people simps.. while using that avatar.. really ??
@@CIRCUS_CEO you try to type a reply.. fail hard with your spelling.. and then afterwards remove it.. ? you are a fucking joke dude..
I need someone to do a reloading animation for this laptop.
coming here after the framework video and realising how quickly they went from something this to THAT
God bless Panasonic for making 90's style laptops with 2019 technology. _Someone_ has to make laptops for people who don't like throwing perfectly good hardware away every 3 years.
This isn't a "90s style laptop" This is a laptop for professionals like police EMS fire construction etc this isn't for the average consumer
What Garbage said. These are used in many professional fields where the literal toughness is needed along with the ability to upgrade a module without replacing the entire unit. Ours are used in weather, get dropped, and used in situations that a /normal/ laptop would not survive in.
@KingShoter007 even if it cost 2times more than most expensive macbook pro? And each upgrade module is a price of a basic xps?
Here we aree!! www.powerpc-notebook.org/en/ (although we do not produce hardware itself...)
Then just... Don't throw it, repurpose it? Old laptops might be useless for 3D works, but it will be perfectly fine for text work, or, if you are in the industry, it can be used as a machine controller since that won't need a lot of performance and some software probably won't work in newer OS anyway.
Apple: soders everything to the logic board
Panasonic: lets you tear this thing apart
I was totally thinking about Apple while watching this video lol
@@ayne222 Does your ilk ever stop thinking about Apple? 😄
Actually back on the iBook and PowerBook you were able to replace the keyboard in the same manner as with this laptop
@@ayne222 lol. I am your co defendant on this one.
I was the 1k liker
The upgradeable GPU is a big deal but there's a couple of questions.What are the GPU options and will those options be made available for future graphics chips?
The proprietary connectors and lack of a common laptop standard for swappable peripherals mean you may be limited to Panasonic only options. Since there is no guarantee for how long Panasonic will keep making peripherals then buying this laptop is a bit of a gamble.
Also, can the CPU be upgraded on this model?
It's a good laptop and a step back in the right direction but it's still built without the foundational standards that all manufacturers should adhere to and which would assure a longer future for upgrareable laptops. That is key.
Hey Linus! Luv your channel! I was a Panasonic Tough-book Tek and the adhesive strips are part of the KB (Keyboard) kit. The TB's are designed for serviceability and are fricken awesome. I still have my CF-29 that still holds a 5-6 hour charge. They even have rubberized Backlit Chiclets for the NYPD and had to use a large screwdriver to open the rear IO doors from all the coffee and doughnut sprinkles. Not even kidding bro! Lol!
2019 Specs in a 2005 Laptop design? Hell yea
MEGA F4IL, where is my lovely expresscard!
Its mainly targeted for Mobility and rugged environments i.e. Military applications and Police Cars as well as construction, job sites etc. Everything you ever need is there.
@@daimientaylor3108 The construction business loves them as well. I use to be in site preparation construction(clearing land for Walmart type stores, shopping centers, major golf courses, roads, etc...), and my old boss carried around a Panasonic Toughbook in his truck with a PCMCIA cell modem, and a portable canon printer.
@@CommodoreFan64 Yeah they are good for the cost too. Worth paying the extra money and not having to worry about breaking your computer.
@@daimientaylor3108i see Japanese field reaserchers are obsessed with them as well
BOI DO I LIKE TACTICAL LOADING MY LAPTOP
out of ammo, reloading...
uav online
@@robatty143 CoD
click clack POW
@@robatty143 LMAO hahahahaaa
The reason it’s this modular is because the biggest customers of toughbooks are militaries, law enforcement, hospitals and organizations operating in hazardous areas like construction sites or a refugee camp in a war zone, etc.
These are typically used by numerous people sharing 1 laptop. The information on it is usually sensitive too so it needs to be easily replaceable between users. Features like that card scanner also suit the needs of some of the aforementioned users, like an intelligence officer accessing confidential information that needs clearance using a card, or to be used as an ID scanner by the police(who also use that car dock you mentioned very frequently), or like you said, to access someone’s medical info.
Some good work panasonic has done on this. A lot different than the tough book I owned years back but still looks to have that same grit and reliability
That removable storage, and the ability to, as you say, rip the ssd out, run it through a paper shredder, and ahhh, is a big selling point. 🤷♂️
As an aviation mechanic, I have been using these for the last 15 years. We use the thicker ones and they really are tough. I have dropped them from wings many times. They really are a great product
I used to work at a skydiving company and one of the stories was about a guy who had dropped his 1500 feet when they were taking off and it still booted. These things are Nokia 3310 laptops.
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Do you think this laptop might be for me? or should I go the other model?
@@ionair1913 - depends your industry.
@@ionair1913 Um, no one here knows who TF you are dude.
Linus: they should have known what they were getting into
Panasonic: aw he didn't drop test it
This is actually pretty hilarious, considering these laptops are known to be very physically resilient. The one time Linus could (or even should) have dropped something, he didn't
@@Toastmaster_5000 yeah.. that's kinda my point
Cops and Militarypersonel use these, that's a harder Torturetest for any Laptop than Linus dropping it a couple of time :D
@@Speedycat we are using their military lineup at work an i can say these CF20s can survive falling off a car at like 90mph
I remember this toughbook ad: ua-cam.com/video/q2E1tqx2oo0/v-deo.html
“Panasonic tough book favoured by international drug dealers for it’s easy to remove and destroy in case of a pesky warrant!”
4:36: "September 19"
Uploaded: October 10
Thats a long time lol
he was working his way through all the batteries that came with it
"60 fps on all high quality in rocket league... Not UNusable, that's ok"
My guy I used to play Minecraft on the lowest settings at 10 fps on my laptop XD
i cant even get minecraft to load on my laptop
@@enamelbucket2081 You guys have Minecraft?? All I got is Minesweeper, and that shit is on dead lowest low setting and I'm still dropping frames....
What the fuck do you compute on? A calculator?
@@rosestrohm7986 TI-83 bc I can't afford the TI-89
@@LtDogoop the only person getting wooshed here is you. He was adding onto the joke
We should definitely get a series “stuff manufactures don’t want Linus to open” 😂😂😂
...or drop?
No Celebrity so every single tech product in existence ?...
@@Windows98R 😂
At already exists, just without Linus: www.ifixit.com/Teardown
15:40 i was really scared this is just how far the modules sticked out
Looks just like a laptop I had in the late 90s. Had exactly the same swapping modules for floppy, CD, batteries, modems, etc.
Computer: "please wait while updating."
Linus: *removes and switches hardware component*
**Screeching in Windows Error**
It says wait! He waited
*Pulls drive while laptop is on*
"Oops, shouldn't have done that."
*Then proceeds to pull battery while laptop is on*
Well to be fair, the batteries are actually designed to be able to do that.
Sure, but only when the other battery is installed, we don't see him with the extra battery until after he pulled the first one.
@@Azuralis He only had one battery in at the time, and we clearly see that when he opens it up the screen is black. Then CUT, and the laptop is on.
I am able to do both of those things with my Dell Latitude that I am currently using to type this comment.. in fact when I saw this comment, I plugged my laptop in, pulled the battery, pulled out the hard drive (the drive slide didn't come with screws for whatever reason, but it stays in place really good unless I deliberately pull on it so it's fine), and it did fine. :P
@@valrabellkeys9867 anyone can do that,
2:30 Real talk, from experience in the US military, the quick-swap hard drive is great for securing sensitive information in the safe; I couldn't imagine carrying out that necessary day-to-day task without the feature. Our devices were older so the stylus was tethered, but usually never used anyways.
“Dock it in the car?” It’s meant for Law Enforcement, possibly you check call details, descriptions, etc.
Finally, an actual laptop and not yet another damn ultrabook.
Seriously, if every laptop were like that, and the bays used standardized formfactors and connectors, i'd never buy a desktop again. It's not like i need an RTX or I9... just solid midrange performance and lots of customization options to make it mine.
@@lyxar777 yea half of the time i play games, i don't notice the graphics as much. Maybe its because i play competitive games and focus on winning...but the point still stands. Who needs full ultra settings at 299fps anyways...maybe rich people
@@lyxar777 I don't even care about the customization options, I just want it to be durable, so I don't have to buy a machine that breaks if I open the screen too quickly once.
@@TheHadMatters exactly. Buy the time the average spendable income is factored in, if you can buy the tough book, it isn't actually getting upgraded, but since it hopefully lasts a LOT longer, by the time a normal laptop would break, maybe you can afford to upgrade the tough book instead. :)
This guy puts the things in like he’s putting a mag in a gun lol
@Sean Peter BlairWouldn't it sink?
Reloaded.! XD
Reeeeeloading
It’s half the fun of it
Doesn't everyone? 😂
Linus after the video: "Where's my credit card!"
It's like a weapon in RPG where you can swap its abilities
Panasonic: we need to create a new laptop
The designer: haha... lego factory go brrrrr....
Customer: Lego is so expensive ;-;
Chad Customer: Haha Lepin go brrrr
apples taste good
XierzaGT - Roblox And more! What
cringe
@@pulsegamin4790 no u
Blue Ray, Optical Drive just more blue
-Linus Sebastian 2019
at this point, bluray is practically antiquated tech.
@@ShaneOzouf Not for HIFi enthusiasts. Also, you can´t trust the movies or shows you like to stay on a given platform, so reconsider physical media :)
@@voider978 for all those Hifi/movie enthusiasts using their laptop as their main media source? 😂
@@slindl70 Hahaha, this is an exception of course. I was thinking in general terms
@@ShaneOzouf That's why it is not built in, but available as a separate module.
However, this is enterprise product. And technicians quite often have to work with all sorts of enterprise/industrial equipment. Unlike your typical consumer, that kind of equipment does not tend to be replaced every two-three years. And if needs to be interfaced with, that quite often happens via whatever means are common at a time of manufacture. I've seen perfectly fine working machines that get their programs brought on 5.25" floppies.
3:43 ah good so it can run Windows 11
The laptop is just like when you say
"Dam everytime I buy something new, its newer version gets released"
So basically this is THE laptop we're seeing in movies, when the antagonist trying to extract some data and need the hackerman guy to crack the data.
me when seeing this video:
I want it! I need it!
me after checking the price:
okay I don't really need a Laptop anyways
yeah they start at like 2grand and go up to 4-5grands.. but at least they come with a handle
@@majstealth they don't sell this to consumer... i had to used company's info to get them... don't want it... it just overweight laptop.. that i can carry two laptop.... for the same weight...
@@campkira if you get a laptop with a handle you'll never go back.
@@campkira they are not really targeted to consumers, if even prosumers
I consider the prices fair. It's also out of what i can pay.
this is the things that I totally dont need but I definitly want
The PowerBook G3 "Pismo" (1999/2000) had very similar upgradeability features (swappable bays -optical disks, additional HDD, Zip drives, Floppy disk.. there were many options in the market - and could house a hot swappable second battery, giving up to 8-9 hours of life, incredible for the time).
Was a very easy opening laptop - just flip the "zero screws" keyboard - and could upgrade RAM, HDD, WiFi card, and even the processor, but not the graphics card.
Nice to see that the concept is still around.
This is just like having a ibm Thinkpad release in 2019
Lenovo still does some rugged Thinkpads in their student lineup, like the 11e, and yes I know not as configurable, or maybe even as powerful, but still a decent option for a general purpose laptop that's more rugged then most in it's price range.
There are, and its one of the best laptops... x1
@@Znowin the x1 is amazing
@@CommodoreFan64 yeah, but Lenovo, peddler of Mainland China spyware. Not IBM.
This is like the X201 thinkpads but the modularity of the DOCK is built into the laptop itself. I still use 2-3 of them because they are so dang tough and handy. And the dock and accessories were cheap af
Panasonic: Do *NOT* leave it out in the rain
LInus: Soooooo, you're saying I *can* rip the keyboard off?
@dethrophes i can see why they said it, he's obviously clueless on IP ratings
When i was working for the police we had one of the older toughbooks thrown out the window of a stolen police car during a chase, it sat in the mud and rain beside the motorway for 3 days before we recovered it. when we got it back to the workshop it turned on without a hitch. I don't think leaving this out in the rain would damage it.
@dethrophes He shouldn't give advice if he's clueless, it's literally his job
@dethrophes is that a legitimate question? The channel has "tips" in the name for Christs sake
@@taidgheshea9625 that one might have been designed for that, some toughbooks are just rugged and some are near submersible.
I’d have to have a smart card reader in there, idk why but I have this massive fascination with them
"Framework laptop has joined the room"
Me: What are the specs for this laptop?
Panasonic: Yes
Meanwhile apple be like...
"Hello sir, we can't replace that charging port would you like to buy a new laptop?"
yo mean "macbook" =)))
@@neko5364 I mean all apple devices
"Oh you broke the back of your phone? That'll be $600 to replace the glass" GLASS, you know that material that costs about $10...
Ehm, hello sir, we can't fix the stuck keys on your keyboard, please buy a new laptop (which will have the same exact issue in a couple months)
@@rivox1009 here we haven't even launched yet, but we will add the new product to the reca- woops i mean "repair program" list.
I work as IT for a police department and we outfitted our fleet with the fz55s and the officers love them
I used to support this line as a tech due to working under an MSP contract for a small municipality (town). The car-dock feature is because these are often used in police cars. The MIL-STD 810H certification is because these things will sit in hot cars all day, and (at least in Vermont) will also sit outside in basically freezing temps. The temperature swings can destroy weaker machines. Combine with the shock and vibration rating, they're really reliable machines for that purpose.
Officers get really mad if you remove solitaire from the base install because of how long they'll spend sitting in a cruiser sometimes. True story.
this is the laptop for enterprise
linus: proceed to open steam
Clearly you’re new to this channel
"I do trading on Steam..."
That's why we love him
this man is Linus after all
Going on a work trip with only buisness computer. I can absolutly see this
Some company: we should send our laptops out to reviewers...
The laptop with Linus's address: oh God no! Please!
Arkee Imagine how Electronics addressed to jerry rig everything feel lol
Arkee Imagine how Electronics addressed to jerry rig everything feel lol
Some company: Don't worry, we'll stick all your components in with tape so he can't get at them.
@@timhanby5662 now imagine how they feel when they were sent to techrax
@kat tbh i think they just accidently wrote the exact same comment. i mean if he isnt stupid he would copy paste it over, but he didn't.
I work for a tech support company and when I was in trainibg our trainer said she have to do a replacement on a tough book that saved a us soldier life by taking a bullet
I don’t think Linus realized that law enforcement commonly use tough books with car mounts
"So what do you want on your laptop?"
"Yes"
@@rastas_4221 ahahahahah
those people that reply with a yes or no answer to a non yes or no questions r hilarious
@@rastas_4221 it's funny cuz it's true.
"Blu-ray drive: like a DVD drive but more blue." -- Linus 2019
lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Linus: you can't build a laptop
Panasonic: why can't you?
He says “Molex to sata, lose all your data”
I say “Molex to four pin, lose all your forskin”
"They should've known what they were getting themselves into."
They did. They told you NOT to leave it in the rain. If they didn't know what they were getting themselves into, they wouldn't have mentioned the rain.
@@ruikazane5123 I mean, it is Linus, so you never know.
Linus seems to accidentally break things lol
Skylar Golden See Linus Drop Tips
Playing CS GO:
Wait a minute! I am reloading my battery...
If you had that on voice chat people would be confused and say things like, "What do you mean by reloading your battery?"
🤣🤣🤣
lmaoo
@Karis AsaNi There's something called an artillery battery :P
it obviously ran out of bullets
I just came into a CF-53 from work recently, it's a bit outdated but I'm so happy to be able to have it, it's plenty fast from me.
I wonder if they can make a RTX variant of this. I'd buy it for sure. 40 hours of battery, good RAM, CPU, and even just something like a RTX 2060 mobile or GTX 1660 Super/Ti mobile would be epic.
Purpose of this laptop is having a reliable machine for certain conditions. It's not for gaming. Using overly sophisticated parts like powerful GPU would make it vulnerable, with overheating issues etc. I would rather want a very bright display with anti-reflective surface that can be used in direct sunlight.
In reference to the SSD: When I was in the Army a while back, we had toughbooks that could be used for classified data. Then it was standard IDE drives and one of the specifications is that the HDD must be able to be easily removed. This way the data on the drive could be stored in a safe when not in use. Some desktop PCs also had removable HDDs so they could switch from unlcass to at no higher than secret. Although that was almost 20 years ago (damn I'm old) I would imagine the US military probably still has a similar standard and why the SSD in these things are so easily removed.
They should just use usb drive and cloud. So the laptop contain no data at all lol
@@syarifairlangga4608 cloud for classified data... Really?
@@syarifairlangga4608 cloud? LMAO
@@syarifairlangga4608 Wow.
that one exactly
20 years later, I'm a technician in the army. still using those HDD, still storing them away, and those are probably the same toughbooks used back then (windows XP is installed on the newer models, some are 98)
Engineer: how many upgrades should we cram in this thing
CEO: Yes
Underrated comment.
haha
LOL
@@TheEverWickedWonder it's a repeated comment lol
You got it backwards
CEO: How upgradable can you make it?
*Cabal of Engineers all nod to one another*
Lead Engineer: Yes
My Dell Inspiron 4150 laptop worked like this 18 years ago. The two multi purpose slots where in the front though not the sides.
I fell in love with this laptop