Being in law enforcement we used this tough book which has unbelievable durability. Good review. It was heavy but very strong so we called it the Brick.
Hight quality and durability go together. You don't get one without the other. Love my toughbook CF-31. 10 years and going strong. Best $4k i ever spent.
I wish gaming laptops had those dual hot swapping batteries. If anything, gaming laptops NEED that the most! Not to mention it is healthier for the battery since it wouldn't be charging while using it which would create a lot of heat.
Man, I soo enjoy (and miss) these kinds of reviews that are outside the Monolithic Groupthink homogenous mass that tech-reviews have become. This channel has become my refuge
Same. I was looking into the T480 but then Lenovo decided to become another Apple and throw away everything that people would buy a Thinkpad for in the first place.
As an Electronics Technician I just like that it still has an RS-232 port! Just had to buy a dongle to interface with some test equipment. I don't need anything that tough. Our customers would; oil & gas, utilities especially. How many crews are going to be out rewiring Texas in the next few weeks!
Such a scary situation, and should serve as better evidence that it's in our interest to work together. Hopefully cooler heads in TX politics prevail...
@@SomeGadgetGuy I only have a little understanding, but apparently their grid only has a few interconnects to neighboring states. Unlike the rest of the country which has more regional cooperation.
I loved the Galaxy Active phones. For a clumsy guy, they were the only ones that would last me 2 years before I could upgrade again. Tangent: why can't phone companies build more phones with a slight raised lip on the front to protect the screen? Then people could keep the device case-free and appreciate its design without destroying it! I would appreciate the same durability in a laptop. This would be the product for a lot of people who have to bring a computer back and forth from work every day and want to minimize the wear and tear. I would buy this to take to the office and not have to worry about it getting jostled or bumped or dropped.
@@tams805 that's a very good point. I would love to see a nice metal finish on the back of phones. It would look sharp, still allow for wireless charging and would be much, much more durable.
@@Metalpoet999 You mean plastic. Metal doesn't go well with wireless charging. It's a great antenna though. I'd much prefer a good quality polycarbonate over metal.
The oilfield companies I do work for have moved past thought laptops, by using enclosures with an external keyboard. I love this thing for field work, but when the most hazardous thing to the field equipment is the employees ("if it breaks I'll get a new faster one" I've heard this as a technician). And it's almost always the screen.
That happens a LOT in the corporate world. So obnoxious. Seeing a middle tier exec cry about not getting the latest and greatest every year, so they break a phone to force the upgrade. People like that should have to spend a couple years fishing toxic electronics out of landfills...
I've been using toughbooks for 15 years both at work and home. I've had this computer fro 2.5 years. With the keyboard it weighs about 8lbs, the only problems I've had are some of the plastic covers breaking/cracked.
Another wonderful video and review. I want one. I absolutely don't need one, but I want one. The only problem is that I can't put it in an envelope. This is the Tonka of laptops. Every Panasonic product I own is built to last. My Panasonic Viera plasma TV from 2008 is still going strong. Contrast to my Samsung and Vizio LED TVs which both died between 5 and 6 years. Lenovo Thinkpads are built pretty tough for average use. My T430s with an i7, 16gb/256gb, bought in July 2012 is still going strong...and I love the swappable battery. But it sure isn't a Toughbook.
as someone that has left a laptop on a stove and it got turned on, or sat on a laptop or hurrying threw laptop into car no idea why anyone would want anything else
@@glsracer There are some security features that some of the customers for this will have invested at lot into, that are proprietary to Intel. AMD have their own versions, but obviously the investment hasn't been there. And the extra profit from using an AMD CPU would be a much smaller percentage of the profit for such expensive equipment. And we all know you aren't in the market to buy one of these.
@@tams805 well that's presumptuous, I actually am in the market for a durable tablet with class leading specs and am in the process of upgrading my home server and laptop as well. I have been looking for a tablet powered by AMD for a long time but nothing has been released. Regarding security, a lot of companies have solutions in place but most of these support AMD hardware in a seemless way. I work for a very large IT company and while we primarily have Xeon equipped systems, Epyc servers are starting to make an appearance and the Epyc systems seem to require fewer updates. Most IT managers stay with what is tried and true for servers (helps with crap rolling down hill should something go wrong) but there is a lot more flexibility with portable equipment (laptops/tablets) vs datacenter deployments. I could see the relative value of Intel for tablets and laptops until Zen 2 came out but since then there aren't a lot of reasons to buy Intel products unless the AMD product you want is unavailable and you can't wait for new stock.
I love the idea of ruggedized tech for kids, and folks who may have a bit less hand control. Being less afraid of dropping a device would sure improve my desire to use it.
As a Certified Diesel tech i can safely say that i still rock a set of 4 CF-74 toughbooks with 4g cell capability, 16 gigs corsair ram and a monster 2Tb ssd drive. These run great and never stop... Period!! Toughbook Don't Care!!!
@@SomeGadgetGuy yes yes they are! And if one can handle falling out of a Locomotive, bounce along the tracks and be found the next day...i think it speaks volumes for Panasonic
As someone who carrys a laptop around a machine shop every day. Ultra book slimming definitely becomes more of a liability than a benefit. Still this laptop seems like a new magnitude of overkill. Kudos to Panasonic for going all out. Maybe ill tape some rubber strips on my thinkpad and role play.
A bit late to the game but my $.02 worth. I've been toting 2 CF-30 around for a while. 1 runs Linux, the other using Win 7 Home Pro. The only problems I've run in to is the max capacity of RAM, heat dissipation issues and lack of HDMI. I've used them as a mobile mechanic database, CAD design, on-the-go and anything in between. I'm happy to see Panasonic continuing to produce something that won't break as soon as I look at it! (One of my CF-30 has a crack in the case from dropping a CV axle on it and has survived bathing in various automotive fluids).
Since my early days in iUT when I discovered my first talk book with Windows XP I have found these devices to be truly Worthy of their design and purpose I would describe them as the wolverine of laptops. They are modular design their indestructible chassis and llighterbthan expected carrying weight
That is one weird one, it's a product specialized for professional usage that don't have "Pro" in the name. Usually the trend is sticking a "Pro" moniker on the most costly products of the line while having no specific features requiredby professionals...
I think Hulk is the most appropriate for this. I have found that Lenovo ThinkPads suit me the best. I just need good battery life and commercial grade durability, not industrial or tactical grade. The T470 was the last with a swappable battery, but with as good battery life as I am getting in the T490, it's fine. It charges very quickly as well. Hospital provided hardware I use to work from home or on the go, suits my every need.
We had one at work something like 10 years ago. When it came time to replace it, it made more economical sense to buy cheap €600 laptops and replace them when broken than to spend €3000 on one Toughbook. Of course this way of thinking is an ecological disaster, but nobody seems to care.
I want this but in a netbook format with a keyboard. touchscreen is bad , keyboard is good. kevlar option would be good. small and light is better for infantry than a big screen and yeah, the artillery must be T on T.
@@SomeGadgetGuy With ubuntu 20.10 I'm getting better hardware support than my Dell XPS 13 that came from the factory preconfigured with ubuntu. Everything just... works. Only thing I had to do really was tune the trackpad with xinput because I like it a little more sensitive.
I notice the open vent on the top that could allow for fine sand to enter. This needs a nylon filter for prevention of entry. Have advised many a soldier to buy pantyhose to go over computers to prevent this,
as someone who uses one of these daily, out in the field, and I would 100% use an ipad over these personally. the battery lasts longer, lighter, and will be on that side of the fence forever.
I like this kind of form factor which is based on practicality rather than just looks. Though I am not convinced on the efficiency of intel processor in this laptop. Intel is power hungry afterall. A cheaper amd variant would have run better and gave better performance. Maybe Panasonic isn't convinced that amd would be able to provide support for it. However this is a specification I can wish only at this moment. Having simulation, ai rendering and multiple tasks handling, this is the kind of things I would expect from a toughbook. Regular word usage or sending mail isn't for this type of cool device.
A 5 -10 year old macbook pro will work for many Summers down in the deep Amazon. You just need a reliable power source. so spend your money for the solar needed to run you electronics. Take whatever laptop you can afford to lose. Back stuff up on cards and carry them in your waist pack. Leave your solar set up with the local hospital or school so they can have lights at night, run a computer or have communications with the outside world when you leave. They will remember you no matter how many years later you return. Be a goodwill ambassador for your country and make the world a better place to live.
We need a more accurate descriptor for "tablet but with laptop components"... I suggest we call them tablets, and everything else becomes android/chromeos/iOS tablets respectively.
It pains me that all the good stuff is not marketed towards the consumers :(( It's as if consumers are being taken advantage off... Like we are the products 🤔
Has Panasonic placed a gag on all these videos regarding price? As much as I appreciate your humor and info regarding your review on the Panasonic 2-in-1 Toughbook 33 … saying the price is high doesn’t actually say what the price or price range is for this particular laptop!!
3:07 I would _love_ to see how it looks to take pictures, or worse, do videocalls while walking around with the keyboard attached (sneak peak on your mirror sunglasses) 😂
The reason devices like this are because industry does not mess around and they have *a lot* of money to throw around (but not waste). If you're going to be a supplier to them; you had better meet their needs. However, they are willing to put their money where their mouth is if you do.
ThinkPads are good middle ground between general consumer laptops and portable PCs built for a special need. But the market still has a lot of catching up to do.
For sure! Thinkpads service that middle durable ground well in what we like to call "business traveler" grade hardware. I'll never forget how sexy the teardown was when they switched to an injection molded magnesium frame. It was like looking at wolverine's bones... I might need to take a moment to cool off...
Hight quality and durability go together. You don't get one without the other. Love my toughbook CF-31. 10 years and going strong. Best $4k i ever spent.
Being in law enforcement we used this tough book which has unbelievable durability. Good review. It was heavy but very strong so we called it the Brick.
TOTALLY APPROPRIATE NAME!
more better name since you can smash a brick with a hammer a peice of platinum
how much heavy?
@@beickus The 33 comes in at 3.4 pounds (1.54 kg) with the tablet alone, and 6.1 pounds (2.77 kg) attached to the optional keyboard.
See, it's stuff like this why I love you man. Giving the smaller consumers a voice and a review to watch. 🔥🔥
Hight quality and durability go together. You don't get one without the other. Love my toughbook CF-31. 10 years and going strong. Best $4k i ever spent.
That's so rad to hear. That's a GREAT run for that hardware investment!
I wish gaming laptops had those dual hot swapping batteries. If anything, gaming laptops NEED that the most! Not to mention it is healthier for the battery since it wouldn't be charging while using it which would create a lot of heat.
Man, I soo enjoy (and miss) these kinds of reviews that are outside the Monolithic Groupthink homogenous mass that tech-reviews have become. This channel has become my refuge
This is super cool as always! I am really glad Panasonic is still making rugged computers for people who need them
What I wouldn't give for them to tone this down a bit and launch a consumer line. SIgh...
@@SomeGadgetGuy agree 100%. And I think there is a genuine market for a consumer version of this. I know I would buy one!
really miss removable batteries, e.g. on the lenovo x-series
Same. I was looking into the T480 but then Lenovo decided to become another Apple and throw away everything that people would buy a Thinkpad for in the first place.
That is a beast. I have no need for it whatsoever but one has to admire how it does exactly what it is designed for.
Actually it's a hulk ;)
As an Electronics Technician I just like that it still has an RS-232 port! Just had to buy a dongle to interface with some test equipment. I don't need anything that tough. Our customers would; oil & gas, utilities especially. How many crews are going to be out rewiring Texas in the next few weeks!
Such a scary situation, and should serve as better evidence that it's in our interest to work together. Hopefully cooler heads in TX politics prevail...
@@SomeGadgetGuy I only have a little understanding, but apparently their grid only has a few interconnects to neighboring states. Unlike the rest of the country which has more regional cooperation.
I loved the Galaxy Active phones. For a clumsy guy, they were the only ones that would last me 2 years before I could upgrade again. Tangent: why can't phone companies build more phones with a slight raised lip on the front to protect the screen? Then people could keep the device case-free and appreciate its design without destroying it!
I would appreciate the same durability in a laptop. This would be the product for a lot of people who have to bring a computer back and forth from work every day and want to minimize the wear and tear. I would buy this to take to the office and not have to worry about it getting jostled or bumped or dropped.
You need to get them to stop using glass for anything but the screen first.
@@tams805 that's a very good point. I would love to see a nice metal finish on the back of phones. It would look sharp, still allow for wireless charging and would be much, much more durable.
@@Metalpoet999 You mean plastic. Metal doesn't go well with wireless charging. It's a great antenna though.
I'd much prefer a good quality polycarbonate over metal.
The oilfield companies I do work for have moved past thought laptops, by using enclosures with an external keyboard. I love this thing for field work, but when the most hazardous thing to the field equipment is the employees ("if it breaks I'll get a new faster one" I've heard this as a technician). And it's almost always the screen.
That happens a LOT in the corporate world. So obnoxious. Seeing a middle tier exec cry about not getting the latest and greatest every year, so they break a phone to force the upgrade. People like that should have to spend a couple years fishing toxic electronics out of landfills...
@@SomeGadgetGuy agree!
I've been using toughbooks for 15 years both at work and home. I've had this computer fro 2.5 years. With the keyboard it weighs about 8lbs, the only problems I've had are some of the plastic covers breaking/cracked.
Oh I bet under regular use those port covers are likely a failure point.
Another wonderful video and review. I want one. I absolutely don't need one, but I want one. The only problem is that I can't put it in an envelope. This is the Tonka of laptops.
Every Panasonic product I own is built to last. My Panasonic Viera plasma TV from 2008 is still going strong. Contrast to my Samsung and Vizio LED TVs which both died between 5 and 6 years.
Lenovo Thinkpads are built pretty tough for average use. My T430s with an i7, 16gb/256gb, bought in July 2012 is still going strong...and I love the swappable battery. But it sure isn't a Toughbook.
Tonka! That's a good one.
as someone that has left a laptop on a stove and it got turned on, or sat on a laptop or hurrying threw laptop into car no idea why anyone would want anything else
That is basically the anti-ipad....and I love it!!
I work for CN rail and we use these laptops everyday. There’s a few thousand out there within our company
They should have used an AMD 5000 series, against Intel 10th gen, even AMD 4000 series would be preferred.
Why? You know better than Panasonic what their intended end-users need?
@@geraldhenrickson7472 I know they could get better performance, better battery life, and higher profit margins by going with AMD.
@@glsracer There are some security features that some of the customers for this will have invested at lot into, that are proprietary to Intel. AMD have their own versions, but obviously the investment hasn't been there.
And the extra profit from using an AMD CPU would be a much smaller percentage of the profit for such expensive equipment.
And we all know you aren't in the market to buy one of these.
@@tams805 well that's presumptuous, I actually am in the market for a durable tablet with class leading specs and am in the process of upgrading my home server and laptop as well. I have been looking for a tablet powered by AMD for a long time but nothing has been released. Regarding security, a lot of companies have solutions in place but most of these support AMD hardware in a seemless way. I work for a very large IT company and while we primarily have Xeon equipped systems, Epyc servers are starting to make an appearance and the Epyc systems seem to require fewer updates. Most IT managers stay with what is tried and true for servers (helps with crap rolling down hill should something go wrong) but there is a lot more flexibility with portable equipment (laptops/tablets) vs datacenter deployments. I could see the relative value of Intel for tablets and laptops until Zen 2 came out but since then there aren't a lot of reasons to buy Intel products unless the AMD product you want is unavailable and you can't wait for new stock.
AMD has no true vPro equivalent.
People tend to worry when they can't fit big laptops in a case, I worry I won't be able to fit my case in this laptop.
LOL. The laptop IS the case? What evil magic is this???
I love the idea of ruggedized tech for kids, and folks who may have a bit less hand control. Being less afraid of dropping a device would sure improve my desire to use it.
Seriously thinking of grabbing Lex a rugged chromebook...
Excellent!
As a Certified Diesel tech i can safely say that i still rock a set of 4 CF-74 toughbooks with 4g cell capability, 16 gigs corsair ram and a monster 2Tb ssd drive. These run great and never stop... Period!! Toughbook Don't Care!!!
They're such fun monsters.
@@SomeGadgetGuy yes yes they are! And if one can handle falling out of a Locomotive, bounce along the tracks and be found the next day...i think it speaks volumes for Panasonic
Thanks for the review of this interesting device. -> Is it possible to charge the Panasonic Toughbook via USB-C or are you forced to use the DC port?
That's nice for online class use, great review as always.👍
As someone who carrys a laptop around a machine shop every day. Ultra book slimming definitely becomes more of a liability than a benefit. Still this laptop seems like a new magnitude of overkill. Kudos to Panasonic for going all out. Maybe ill tape some rubber strips on my thinkpad and role play.
LOL! Thinkpad cosplay!
A bit late to the game but my $.02 worth. I've been toting 2 CF-30 around for a while. 1 runs Linux, the other using Win 7 Home Pro. The only problems I've run in to is the max capacity of RAM, heat dissipation issues and lack of HDMI. I've used them as a mobile mechanic database, CAD design, on-the-go and anything in between. I'm happy to see Panasonic continuing to produce something that won't break as soon as I look at it! (One of my CF-30 has a crack in the case from dropping a CV axle on it and has survived bathing in various automotive fluids).
Since my early days in iUT when I discovered my first talk book with Windows XP I have found these devices to be truly Worthy of their design and purpose
I would describe them as the wolverine of laptops. They are modular design their indestructible chassis and llighterbthan expected carrying weight
That is one weird one, it's a product specialized for professional usage that don't have "Pro" in the name.
Usually the trend is sticking a "Pro" moniker on the most costly products of the line while having no specific features requiredby professionals...
Right? How can we know that it's a SLIGHTLY better version of a product at an inflated price if they don't label it "PRO"?
Very practical machine 👏
I use a CF-31 every day because I wanted something that would hold up and not constantly break.
I heard it was made of vibranium 👀
It the juggernaut of notebooks
a massive inexorable force that seems to crush everything in its way
UNSTOPPABLE!
I think Hulk is the most appropriate for this. I have found that Lenovo ThinkPads suit me the best. I just need good battery life and commercial grade durability, not industrial or tactical grade. The T470 was the last with a swappable battery, but with as good battery life as I am getting in the T490, it's fine. It charges very quickly as well. Hospital provided hardware I use to work from home or on the go, suits my every need.
Thinkpads are DEFINITELY the standard for "business grade" durable.
We had one at work something like 10 years ago. When it came time to replace it, it made more economical sense to buy cheap €600 laptops and replace them when broken than to spend €3000 on one Toughbook. Of course this way of thinking is an ecological disaster, but nobody seems to care.
Yikes. 😬
So a rugged surface book then.
Still cheaper then the surface book.
I thought these started at at least $3000. More like $3500-$4500.
@@geraldhenrickson7472 well if you want any power out of the surface book its like 2k+ imo
The Warthog of laptops
YUP!
I want this but in a netbook format with a keyboard. touchscreen is bad , keyboard is good. kevlar option would be good. small and light is better for infantry than a big screen and yeah, the artillery must be T on T.
thank you bro, your channel is wonderful ! keep going
Only thing id worry about is display not being bright enough in sunlight.
2014: Samsung is still behind with their plastic galaxy phones. Bust one of the first rugged android phones.
2021: Remember hot swappable batteries?
Sigh... I member...
Imagine a rugged notebook, good now imagine it's a Panasonic! GG
It's Chuck Norris Tough
This is a bulletproof vest of a laptop...howz that?
Love my CF-33. It's even better with linux.
I REALLY need to take these for a spin on linux...
@@SomeGadgetGuy With ubuntu 20.10 I'm getting better hardware support than my Dell XPS 13 that came from the factory preconfigured with ubuntu. Everything just... works.
Only thing I had to do really was tune the trackpad with xinput because I like it a little more sensitive.
I notice the open vent on the top that could allow for fine sand to enter. This needs a nylon filter for prevention of entry. Have advised many a soldier to buy pantyhose to go over computers to prevent this,
hell of a stud of a laptop
Panasonic makes TANKS.
Still useing the cf15 running vista
as someone who uses one of these daily, out in the field, and I would 100% use an ipad over these personally. the battery lasts longer, lighter, and will be on that side of the fence forever.
I like this kind of form factor which is based on practicality rather than just looks. Though I am not convinced on the efficiency of intel processor in this laptop. Intel is power hungry afterall. A cheaper amd variant would have run better and gave better performance. Maybe Panasonic isn't convinced that amd would be able to provide support for it. However this is a specification I can wish only at this moment. Having simulation, ai rendering and multiple tasks handling, this is the kind of things I would expect from a toughbook. Regular word usage or sending mail isn't for this type of cool device.
Like a rock!
Such a great video!! We need to stop the practice of designed obsolescence. This looks so cool.
I REALLY wish we had more tablet options like these for consumers.
Nice, buying one to take on my trip to the Amazon forest
A 5 -10 year old macbook pro will work for many Summers down in the deep Amazon. You just need a reliable power source. so spend your money for the solar needed to run you electronics. Take whatever laptop you can afford to lose. Back stuff up on cards and carry them in your waist pack. Leave your solar set up with the local hospital or school so they can have lights at night, run a computer or have communications with the outside world when you leave. They will remember you no matter how many years later you return. Be a goodwill ambassador for your country and make the world a better place to live.
We need a more accurate descriptor for "tablet but with laptop components"...
I suggest we call them tablets, and everything else becomes android/chromeos/iOS tablets respectively.
Hold up, there's a Windows logo (button?) under the screen
Jokes aside it probably runs other OSes just fine x)
It pains me that all the good stuff is not marketed towards the consumers :((
It's as if consumers are being taken advantage off... Like we are the products 🤔
Hola donde puedo conseguir una CF-33 en buenas condiciones. SALUDOS
Has Panasonic placed a gag on all these videos regarding price? As much as I appreciate your humor and info regarding your review on the Panasonic 2-in-1 Toughbook 33 … saying the price is high doesn’t actually say what the price or price range is for this particular laptop!!
3:07 I would _love_ to see how it looks to take pictures, or worse, do videocalls while walking around with the keyboard attached (sneak peak on your mirror sunglasses) 😂
Actually, the keyboard kinda helps. The machine rests on your arm, and you grab the handle.
@@SomeGadgetGuy that handles looks very convenient. Dual purpose too !
I love it! 😁 but... do they make a 4g/5g variant? Seems like something you'd want on a device like this 🤔
Nvm, I see on the site that LTE is an option 🙃
😎
The reason devices like this are because industry does not mess around and they have *a lot* of money to throw around (but not waste).
If you're going to be a supplier to them; you had better meet their needs. However, they are willing to put their money where their mouth is if you do.
You wanted a better word than beast or tank...how about its a juggernaut.
hi does it come with an SSD?
Tank, beast, hulk???
Might as well call it a fortress
LOL And then get a TEAM of Toughbooks...
@@SomeGadgetGuy *snickering* assemble 9 of em and then you'll get Team Fortress. Whaaaaaat
You're picking up what I'm putting down... Yup...
tank
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6:50 evergreen
Thor's Hammer
Why does the phrase hot swap sound so dirty?
Because it's so darn hot!
It's like a classic James bond gadget that can detonate all galaxy s7 in a 3 Mile radius and probably nukes too
You should see ticwris max smartwatch... It's straight out of inspector gadget
@@michaelcorcoran8768 I will, thank you
It's an Adamantium-Proof Device?
Clearly it is made of good stuff. Look at the cost of this puppy.
I don’t see any reason why it should cost as much as it does. Dual core? Lol
I got a super deal on eBay on a CF-20 and the CF-33 and I love them so much I had to tell everyone.
A Cop-proof laptop
6:10 what about ... Lenovo's thinkpads ?
ThinkPads are good middle ground between general consumer laptops and portable PCs built for a special need. But the market still has a lot of catching up to do.
For sure! Thinkpads service that middle durable ground well in what we like to call "business traveler" grade hardware. I'll never forget how sexy the teardown was when they switched to an injection molded magnesium frame. It was like looking at wolverine's bones... I might need to take a moment to cool off...
❤️❤️
It's a non fragile of a laptop :))
Hight quality and durability go together. You don't get one without the other. Love my toughbook CF-31. 10 years and going strong. Best $4k i ever spent.