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  • @Eeeeehhh
    @Eeeeehhh Рік тому +2471

    The pain of being expected to look like a thin woman and a healthy baby at the same time

    • @ananasbanana
      @ananasbanana Рік тому +189

      Infantilization

    • @perryh.-r.4419
      @perryh.-r.4419 Рік тому +84

      There is no way to win

    • @Chic_Ken
      @Chic_Ken Рік тому +38

      Goddammit 😆 right??

    • @tape-6
      @tape-6 Рік тому +140

      taylor swift wasnt kidding. everybody IS a sexy baby

    • @ananasbanana
      @ananasbanana Рік тому +23

      @@tape-6 Please don’t bring that ghoul into the discussion

  • @taylorgayhart9497
    @taylorgayhart9497 Рік тому +683

    The fact that a NON-REVERSIBLE plastic surgery is a “trend” is scary!!!

  • @urbpro
    @urbpro Рік тому +1744

    I don't have anything against cosmetic surgery, but I have a huge problem with the idea of certain body types or facial features being "trendy". I get fashion and make up trends, but body parts should never be trendy, and people shouldn't all try to look like each other. I can't count the number of times that I'm on TikTok and I confuse one influencer with another. I swear sometimes they all look alike, lol.

    • @alliew31
      @alliew31 Рік тому +66

      I got asked once who did my eyebrows because she said they looked perfect in 2017ish. I had always thought my eyebrows were way too bushy before and they're flat but I never did anything about them. It just happened that my eyebrows were "in style" and now the other girls in my class who made theirs thin a year or 2 before were trying to figure out how to make them bushier

    • @Kelbalam
      @Kelbalam Рік тому +51

      notice how these trends almost specifically target women too. Its the 2000s beauty industry complex updated with modern technology.

    • @dianaquill9969
      @dianaquill9969 Рік тому +7

      Oh my gosh same, how many dirty- blonde guys are there? But the biggest issue is that if these changes were made out of insecurity or wanting to look like someone else, it's just not going to work out well for the poor person.

    • @isaacgray2909
      @isaacgray2909 Рік тому +16

      A particular issue I have with people wanting to follow these trends is that beauty standards change every decade, so like if you want to get surgery just to have these certain look to be beautiful, you would need to reevaluate your choices

    • @Marinlss
      @Marinlss Рік тому +4

      @@isaacgray2909 we're going to change again from the insta baddie/kardashian body to heroin chic, it's a drastic body change and I can't imagine going through that only to fit the trend

  • @anti8545
    @anti8545 Рік тому +2541

    Being a celebrity and lying about plastic surgery is just plain evil. It's people who already know they've got an unattainable lifestyle and yet can't admit that you can look like them with a good doctor and $75,000

    • @xotennisxgirlox
      @xotennisxgirlox Рік тому +160

      There’s that but also celebrities who have OBVIOUSLY had work done and the fans who adamantly deny that they’ve had plastic surgery because they’re perfect and were born that way.

    • @CuriosityKilledThisCat
      @CuriosityKilledThisCat Рік тому +63

      I wouldn’t say it’s “plain evil,” because most of the time the celebrities are getting the surgery because of deep-rooted insecurities. If you’re told by one half of the planet that you’re gorgeous and so incredibly lucky to be famous, but constantly critiqued and torn apart by the other half of the planet, that’s going to create some issues. Oftentimes people forget that celebrities and influencers are just people at the end of the day. And people always have little things that embarrass them that they hope no one else notices. In the same way you don’t want to point out the things you’re embarrassed by on your own body, they don’t want to do it either. Obviously, I don’t think celebs should lie when they’re asked, and there should be a more general societal-acceptance that Hollywood people aren’t every-day people, but I don’t think it’s totally healthy to demand that they disclose every single time they get something done either.

    • @noraxbeth
      @noraxbeth Рік тому +19

      I idolized Gwen Stefani growing up…. Her dramatic changes without acknowledging them have really disappointed me. I had admired her stage personality for her authenticity but she has lost touch with that over time (from my perspective as a fan).

    • @xouthpaw
      @xouthpaw Рік тому +49

      Like guys that spend $10,000 a month on steroids then tell you they're all natural; all you need to do is eat some broccoli and subscribe to their workout plan they say.

    • @myBquest
      @myBquest Рік тому +27

      @@xotennisxgirlox kpop fans do this and is laughable 😂

  • @quinzequinze
    @quinzequinze Рік тому +767

    The thing with buccal fat removal especially is just the number of plastic surgeons who I've seen come forward saying that they no longer perform the surgery because it's too risky and even the intended outcome is not worth it. You have to scooch around so many important nerves and blood vessels that sit right in the same spot in your cheek to even get to the buccal pads and there's a huge risk of facial paralysis for a surgery that has terrible longevity.

    • @KO-vb4tg
      @KO-vb4tg Рік тому +95

      There’s also a risk of asymmetry. If the pads aren’t the same size, or if there’s a problem on the second side and they need to stop, you can wind up with a bad result.

    • @shadycatz85
      @shadycatz85 Рік тому +44

      you get it young to look older, but if you have that sort of mentality, then it means in just ten years you'll be getting fat transfers into the cheeks, because buccal fat it what makes your face look youthful. surgeons have created a surgery that they know will make them more money down the line.

    • @superultragiggachigga
      @superultragiggachigga Рік тому +16

      If I’m not mistaken, it is said that as you age you naturally lose that fat in your face. So you’re prematurely removing that fat that you need as a young person look youthful. Really makes me wonder what they’ll look like when they’re older.

    • @ArtisanAsteroid
      @ArtisanAsteroid Рік тому +12

      @@superultragiggachiggaAging will hit them faster than it would naturally,and potentially worse without the help of more trendy surgery

  • @yukikanegawa7470
    @yukikanegawa7470 Рік тому +562

    It's dystopian that serious surgery can be trendy. Like lip fillers and Botox and stuff is one thing but buccal fat is a different beast.

    • @kaemincha
      @kaemincha Рік тому +57

      even stuff like Botox and fillers aren't completely safe or without complications! obviously not as nearly as unsafe as invasive surgery, but yeah. i dont think it should be shamed, but at the same time it does worry me to see an industry that can be predatory boom.

    • @memymomalex
      @memymomalex Рік тому +24

      In my opinion, lip fillers and Botox is not 'one'. they are part of the problem. As someone who has never gotten any kind of injections or fillers, and who also isn't a beauty queen, nor someone who has been historically confident in my looks, I still would never even consider fillers or injections. I don't understand how people can even say this. She says you shouldn't even consider filler until you're 25. Um, how about "You shouldn't consider filler at all." What the eff is wrong with women? Why are we so insecure and affirming each other's insecurities? You can't complain about the pressure and society, and then turn around and say "But i'll be honest, I gave into this pressure and I'm okay with it." You're in no position to criticize plastic surgery. This is part of the problem.

    • @katmhcharis1236
      @katmhcharis1236 Рік тому +10

      @@kaemincha this!! Botox is actually done with the same bacteria that causes botulism, which can cause fatal cases of paralysis. The way it’s used in Botox is meant to block targeted areas of nerves and paralyze muscles so that’s why it’s used to treat migraines and wrinkles, it basically blocks muscle movement/pain before it happens, but it’s a very dangerous substance and needs to be undergone with care.

    • @sunnyandthechlo
      @sunnyandthechlo Рік тому +32

      @@memymomalex She says you shouldn't consider it until you're 25 because that is basically when you are completely done growing, not that it is a good time to start or anything. But if someone wants to improve something that has been bothering them for years and causing distress, it isn't gonna hurt YOU for them to do what they want. The part that does harm others is when celebrities pretend they haven't had anything done when in reality they've had a ton of stuff done so everyone else thinks they are supposed to look 'perfect' and if they don't that there is something wrong with them.
      Little tiny tweaks to your looks is the same as dying your hair or getting contact lenses. It's great that you are comfortable in your body, that's what everyone should strive for but I don't think shaming people for getting small procedures done will help anyone in the long run.

    • @DeathlessOrchid
      @DeathlessOrchid Рік тому +8

      @@memymomalex It makes zero sense to say someone can't criticize something they partook in, especially if you acknowledge there is an intense societal pressure around it. It's also particularly backwards to be this harsh towards anyone who is open about having had cosmetic procedures while proselytizing about how women are insecure. If anything, they are owning and being honest about the fact that how they look isn't how they were born looking, and aren't pretending it is. It's a shitty move to tear people down when all they've done is make themselves more comfortable in their own bodies.
      Criticize the system without harming the affected individuals.

  • @LarrietDarling
    @LarrietDarling Рік тому +654

    I hate the fact that my natural body type has "gone in and out of fashion" at all. I used to get bullied for having big lips and a big butt, and now people are having procedures to emulate them, and either end of the spectrum is WEIRD. I have body dysmorphia from how insane the 90s and early 2000s were about being rail thin, and now people are getting it about not being curvy, and I just wish we could all be allowed to exist and be beautiful in our own bodies without the pressure to look a certain way.

    • @komyn27
      @komyn27 Рік тому +33

      Same, but in my case it's the jaw and cheekbones! I was told I looked like a boy because of my strong jawline, but now I'm somehow the end goal? I don't have dysmorphia, but it feels really weird to be "in fashion" for the last few years. It makes me really uncomfortable.

    • @randomtinypotatocried
      @randomtinypotatocried Рік тому +10

      Apparently the 90s/early 2000s skinny is back in style

    • @CemeteryGates17
      @CemeteryGates17 Рік тому +7

      I'm not unsympathetic, but I also think we are conditioned to care too much about what society thinks. You don't need the latest scream in fashion to be beautiful being yourself. Don't pay attention to beauty trends, especially to get outside validation. I guarantee 99% of men like it when a woman wears her own style, not what society/marketing is pushing upon us.

    • @zedskidoodle
      @zedskidoodle Рік тому +14

      In response to your last line, we absolutely do have the power to feel beautiful how we are, but that won't make anybody else any money. That's the crux of it. I've been feeling less unhappy with my body since I realised that me feeling unhappy is commercially viable for so many companies. Yes, there's pressure to look a certain way, but we can choose whether or not we pay it any mind.

    • @ArtisanAsteroid
      @ArtisanAsteroid Рік тому

      I believe the vast majority of people don't care in reality,but the internet is selling this fantasy of "trendy bodies",and a low percentage fall for it.

  • @hymnomancy
    @hymnomancy Рік тому +1396

    I went to a plastic surgeon once to get a consultation for a forehead reduction and he literally brought up this procedure for my fat cheeks. I ended up not getting anything done. Interestingly enough, I think I'm happy with how I look more as I age. I'm glad I didn't go through with anything.

    • @TheAwesomes2104
      @TheAwesomes2104 Рік тому +167

      Nothing is more disgusting than money hungry surgeons that recommend procedures that their patients didn't even bring up or ask for. If this happened to me, I'd come up with some equally insulting procedure to recommend to them. Or just " I don't like x about your face, so is there just not something you can do to fix it currently, or is the correction too dangerous?"

    • @madisonweber2480
      @madisonweber2480 Рік тому +115

      If they're trying to sell you on something you didn't ask for it's a massive red flag

    • @christyfielding7498
      @christyfielding7498 Рік тому +27

      Yes I'm 44 and I have come to appreciate my face more than I ever did in my 20s. And I have a feeling that the people getting all this surgery at a young age are going to regret it badly.

    • @kiera_klark8171
      @kiera_klark8171 Рік тому +7

      This is nice to hear because I’ve always thought that if I ever did get plastic surgery (unlikely because I’m absolutely terrified of the whole thing) it would probably be a forehead reduction, just because my big forehead means that no hairstyles look good with the proportions of my face, it also doesn’t help that I have an uneven hairline 😢

    • @efeso511
      @efeso511 Рік тому +18

      same. i used to be really insecure with my nose when i was younger and i wanted to have the nose that every female celebrity in the philippines has - slim and straight. but now that i’m in my 20s, i’m grateful i never actually went and got a rhinoplasty or fillers (which can lead to necrosis). i have the same nose as most, if not all of the people on my mom’s side of the fam, so knowing that has made me learn to appreciate it :)

  • @brookewormy
    @brookewormy Рік тому +284

    Cassandra Bankson pointed out in one of her videos that a lot of celebrities dodge transparency about their procedures. Botox is a brand name, so they can say things like "I've never had Botox" truthfully even if they have had another face-lifting procedure, so they can maintain their facades of natural aging or beauty. It's so manipulative

    • @Rhaifha
      @Rhaifha Рік тому +16

      I agree that celebs *should* be transparent about that kind of thing. But I can also uderstand how, for an individual, that kind of transparency is quite difficult. For those celebs, your career depends on your face and reputation. Why risk that when it's standard in the industry to just hide that you've had procedures done?

    • @brookewormy
      @brookewormy Рік тому +26

      @@Rhaifha yeah it's definitely an issue with a lot of gray area. On the one hand, everyone regardless of public status deserves privacy. But on the other hand, misleading people (often young girls searching for role models) and perpetuating the need for image to be everything is wrong.

  • @facepalm18
    @facepalm18 Рік тому +158

    The fact that people are getting plastic surgery to look the way I did at peak meth addiction is mind blowing to me 🤯

    • @molli9292
      @molli9292 Рік тому +34

      exactly!!! when i was at the worst of my meth addiction i had friends in my highschool telling me they were jealous of my cheekbones and arms and i was just like haha…yeah..

    • @nameless568
      @nameless568 Рік тому +8

      frr they just look like ravers with a problem

  • @annedunwoody3565
    @annedunwoody3565 Рік тому +1205

    My parents used to call me “chipmunk chubby cheeks” when I was younger bc my face is round and I have deep dimples. Feeling very seen and appreciated in these comments ❤️❤️❤️❤️
    Everyone is beautiful in your own way!!

    • @siobhan5486
      @siobhan5486 Рік тому +64

      Chubby cheeks individuals rise up

    • @ashleyduckworthyt3224
      @ashleyduckworthyt3224 Рік тому +67

      All these influencers are going to be pissed when the cherub round face comes into fashion

    • @TheGrossDemon
      @TheGrossDemon Рік тому +12

      I call my cousin chipmunk cuz she has adorable pudgy cheeks that she shoves good in when she eats lol. And then my friend started calling me chipmunk cuz I'd shove mad food in my cheeks when I eat too lol.

    • @tativizca4687
      @tativizca4687 Рік тому +11

      I asked my bf literally what his favorite feature of me was and he said my chubby cheeks ❤

    • @HomosexuaCalderu
      @HomosexuaCalderu Рік тому +2

      Team Chipmunk Cheeks!

  • @victorshopov4913
    @victorshopov4913 Рік тому +513

    The thing is that people naturally lose buccal fat as they age, so if it's removed when you're still young your face will just start looking hollow as you age. Then you would need either filler or fat transfer to keep it from hollowing out too much, but it would not look the same as before. It's a one way ticket to endless maintenance. Not to mention that it is quite a risky procedure - there are a lot of blood vessels in your cheeks around the fat pockets. Rounder faces deserve love as well. We shouldn't all strive to look like ig models.
    Edit: I'm surprised Swell has had under-eye filler, as I have heard it is also quite a risky procedure, needles going super close to your eyes and all. ugh. anyway. I saw a video of a surgeon talking about the complications and that turned me off immediately (filler leaking into the eye socket and going behind the eye, no thank you).

    • @sofiaabreu146
      @sofiaabreu146 Рік тому +92

      THIS, EXACTLY
      people aren't talking about the inevitable consequences of bucal fat removal
      its not only the price of the surgery, but also the price of the endless maintenance that comes with it (price being both financial, physical and psychological)
      the bucal fat is STRUCTURAL, if its gone, nothing is supporting that skin, causing everything to sag

    • @biazacha
      @biazacha Рік тому +55

      Not only the blood vessels, we have a nerve that divides itself in the face with the middle triplet passing right where the fat pocket it; mess with that and you can affect your upper lip thus your ability to smile, enunciate, or depending of the spot damaged even your hearing - fat pockets are one of the least symmetrical parts of your body, the chances of getting one of them kinda funky are higher than most surgeons care to admit.

    • @Chachixo
      @Chachixo Рік тому +5

      @@sofiaabreu146 Yes! This is always my biggest thing about a lot of procedures. One does not simply get many of these things done and never have to worry about it again. When you sign up for veneers or a boob implants, etc. you're signing up for a life time of surgeries until you decide to take them out. And that's a big decision to make when you're 19 and you still think you're invincible.

    • @SemekiIzuio
      @SemekiIzuio Рік тому +2

      @@sofiaabreu146 yes its risky, can make your face numb because of thenerves in the cheeks. Chub cheeks is also what makes faces with this look young.

    • @merrymachiavelli2041
      @merrymachiavelli2041 Рік тому +2

      I was watching a plastic surgeon talk about this procedure and interestingly, he said this mostly _isn't_ true for buccal fat, in that you lose it more slowly and to a lesser extent than other fat pockets in the face. He was saying this means people who get it removed could age really quickly in later years, because in the absence of buccal fat will make declining fat in other areas will appear even more stark.

  • @mywadi
    @mywadi Рік тому +707

    I think an aspect of people being so up in arms about buccal fat removal is were just all so done with the artificial, unattainable for most people Instagram face look, so when someone gets this VERY obvious procedure done and isn't incredibly transparent, theyre an easy target for people who are just done with these standards being placed on them.

    • @rachaelpracht
      @rachaelpracht Рік тому +61

      TOTALLY agree with you. It's the whole "You're not ugly, you're just poor" because we can't / don't afford all this work, but honestly it grosses me out more than anything that eventually everyone on instagram is going to look almost identical. It's creepy.

    • @TheAwesomes2104
      @TheAwesomes2104 Рік тому +27

      @@rachaelpracht Yes, as someone who has a life-threatening disability that prevents me from having the vast majority of procedures, it's not only a class divide, but an ableist one. Even if I had the financial means to do so, I couldn't undergo any of these trending procedures. So lying about getting them and trying to pass it off as 'natural' just grinds my gears. If people don't ask about it, I don't think they have an explicit duty to disclose it (I'd prefer they did for the greater good, but I'm not going to look down on someone for it,) but to be asked about it and to lie is just disgusting. They couldn't even take the not-so-high road of 'I'd rather not say." and often just lie through their teeth. And when it's blatantly obvious, it just becomes insulting your audience's intelligence and gaslighting them. No wonder so many of the public get heated and resort to insulting and making fun of these out of touch people.

    • @BoringTroublemaker
      @BoringTroublemaker Рік тому +25

      It’s weird because buccal fat is a signifier of youth which diminishes with age. The removal of buccal fat literally permanently ages your face. It’s a weird paradox between don’t be old unless you’re intentionally looking old (like the gray hair thing) - though it never applies to _actually_ aged people.
      It stinks of glamorized poverty (van life, tiny houses, etc)

    • @evanneff7776
      @evanneff7776 Рік тому +9

      It's so strange to me that so many people are trying to look like one person that doesn't actually exist. Makes me wonder where it's going, societally. How many years before beauty standards are completely inhuman and we actually start looking like cartoon characters?

    • @k80_
      @k80_ Рік тому +14

      And the fact that teen girls are being spoonfed this for 4-6 hours a day (or however long they spend on social media) upsets me SO MUCH. We who are slightly older still had so much of the same messaging but this is ramped up to an insane degree.
      This new girl boss angle (or the slightly fascist “divine feminine energy” angle) makes it seem like people believe the “best woman” will stop being oppressed on a gender basis

  • @CocoLicious
    @CocoLicious Рік тому +114

    I want to add a PSA for younger people about the thin eyebrow trend - if you do that for quite a time, they will take years to grow back and sometimes they are gone forever (my best friend still has quite thin eyebrows from all the plucking in the early 2000s).

    • @randomtinypotatocried
      @randomtinypotatocried Рік тому +13

      I know a few people who haven't been able to grow their eyebrows back from years of making so thin, including my mom

    • @ally939
      @ally939 Рік тому +9

      Yeah, my mom has permanently thin eyebrows due to over plucking, as do a lot of women her age

    • @JasminMiettunen
      @JasminMiettunen Рік тому +9

      Yeah, it seems pretty common in women who were in their teens or twenties during the 1990s-2000s

    • @j.j.3759
      @j.j.3759 Рік тому +8

      I think a lot of them know that...my little sister does the drag queen technique (glue them down, foundation over top, draw them back on) when she wants to try thin or "baby" brows.

    • @xSwordLilyx
      @xSwordLilyx Рік тому +4

      Thats why I hardly even shape them. Idc what anyone thinks

  • @ziggystardog
    @ziggystardog Рік тому +466

    It’s hard for me to separate my negative feelings toward Lea Michelle from my feelings about the procedure.

    • @danielsimmich1858
      @danielsimmich1858 Рік тому +107

      Why do you need to seperate them? They’re both annoying

    • @ositaiza888
      @ositaiza888 Рік тому +35

      honestly i think this is a big factor as to why so many ppl started talking abt this procedure

    • @DieAlteistwiederda
      @DieAlteistwiederda Рік тому +31

      I have no particular feelings about her but her surgery looks awful.

    • @magickaldust1213
      @magickaldust1213 Рік тому +6

      Thank you for commenting this because it made me Google her before and afters and... Yikes.

    • @potato-whiz
      @potato-whiz Рік тому +10

      Setting aside my feelings on her that surgery was not right for her at all. She already had hollow cheeks it’s wild there was a surgeon willing to do that to her.

  • @mariaah3073
    @mariaah3073 Рік тому +146

    What really pisses me off, not just about this procedure but all cosmetic surgery, is that people are so quick to just... ignore the fact that these are SURGERIES?? I've seen people refuse to go through with surgeries that were necessary for their daily life (like knee surgeries) because they were scared of going under, but get super excited at the thought of a boob job and save money for it. Whenever someone criticizes the banalization of comestic surgeries, someone shows up to treat them like a makeup trend or a hair color that washes off in a few months instead of major surgeries with so many possible complications. Then you try to talk about the possible consequences of going through invasive procedures and they act like you're fearmongering??
    Even life-or-death situation surgeries are addressed with more care and attention than this. Doctors will sit a patient down for such a long time and go through everything that could go wrong so the patient can make an informed choice, but some plastic surgeons act like all you need to do is show up and they'll do anything you want, like it's such a simple thing and ugh! So annoying.

    • @JasminMiettunen
      @JasminMiettunen Рік тому +10

      Yes! You could make a point for “all cosmetic procedures are bad”, but the fact is most injectables are much safer and less intensive than even the smallest plastic surgeries. Amanda talked about where the line is drawn, surgery, fillers, hair dye, which I get on a level of “not being happy with the way you are”, but there’s a clear line, like how likely you are to literally die from it. A lot of information on the dangers of fillers have also come out recently, which is making me start to consider them over the line too, but at least you can dissolve the most common fillers.
      She also mentioned braces and accutane, which I don’t think apply here at all, both I would consider basic healthcare, acne can be physically painful and crooked teeth can affect your jaw, cause pain or even make it difficult to eat.

    • @stuart4746
      @stuart4746 Рік тому +5

      Exactly. This was years ago, but I had a customer tell me she was going in for routine surgery and we wouldn't be hearing from her for a week or two because she'd be recovering.
      Her husband was handling stuff for their account and I rarely spoke to him (the wife handled everything) so I asked him how his wife's recovery was going. He told me she didn't make it out of surgery. It was heartbreaking. They'd been together for at least 20yrs and customers for about 5. We sent him a card from the staff and some flowers the next day. It was such a shock.
      I can't even imagine someone voluntarily deciding to get surgery and taking it lightly.

  • @KRayEpiale
    @KRayEpiale Рік тому +40

    The rise of this specific surgery haunts me because it always reminds me of the girl who live-posted about doing this TO HERSELF AT HOME. There were pictures. It was brutal.

  • @kneau
    @kneau Рік тому +49

    Buccal fat does not grow back. Those having the procedure will eventually be paying for fillers when they start to age & learn this fat is what keeps a face looking healthy & youthful.

  • @TheGrossDemon
    @TheGrossDemon Рік тому +109

    It's wild to me that it's more acceptable in society to change your whole body up than it is to be into cartoons, wearing colors and fun accessories, and dressing up.

    • @j.j.3759
      @j.j.3759 Рік тому +5

      I'm 35, and it's interesting to me that you feel that way, because I look at people 10+ years younger and feel jealous about how much more acceptable it is to be into "nerdy" things (it just seems mainstream now, in fact, to like cartoons, comics, etc.) and dress quirky.

    • @embroideredragdoll
      @embroideredragdoll Рік тому +1

      @@j.j.3759 you can still do that at 35, you’ve got your whole life ahead of you!

  • @ellencoleman4604
    @ellencoleman4604 Рік тому +194

    I will always, always, think of Roald Dahl's 'The Twits' when it comes to beauty. The quote below has stuck with me since I was a child:
    "If a person has ugly thoughts, it begins to show on the face. And when that person has ugly thoughts every day, every week, every year, the face gets uglier and uglier until you can hardly bear to look at it.
    A person who has good thoughts cannot ever be ugly. You can have a wonky nose and a crooked mouth and a double chin and stick-out teeth, but if you have good thoughts it will shine out of your face like sunbeams and you will always look lovely."

    • @ayior
      @ayior Рік тому +14

      "What's the ugliest part of your body? Some say your nose, some say your toes but I think it's your mind~" Frank Zappa
      (Its a song thats why I added the tilde I got the melody in my head)

    • @merrymachiavelli2041
      @merrymachiavelli2041 Рік тому +7

      Errr...i know you don't mean it like this, but that idea has the unfortunate implication that unattractive people are morally inferior to attractive people, which is a well documented bias people tend to have.

    • @shirendjorgee9320
      @shirendjorgee9320 Рік тому +23

      @@merrymachiavelli2041 No, the quote is suggesting that even if you’re conventionally unattractive according to societal standards, if you have a good heart you’ll still be far less ugly than a conventionally attractive person with a bad heart, because having a good heart shows with your attitude and behaviour towards others.

  • @flippanties
    @flippanties Рік тому +69

    I have very prominent buccal fat, as does most of my family members on my mum's side and I just...don't get why anyone would ever want this done. I think my round cheeks are super cute and I know they're gonna make me age really well and I don't understand why anyone would so drastically change their face in a way that's gonna look bad in a few decades.

    • @EmoNinja1155
      @EmoNinja1155 Рік тому +7

      Yeah I know someone who is getting a consultation on buccal fat removal soon but it runs in her family and her mom looks at least 15 years younger than she is, partially do to her cheeks. It's not a reversible procedure

  • @bad_bau
    @bad_bau Рік тому +56

    cheek fat naturally depletes as you age, especially from your teens through your twenties. like I'm 22 and already had a pretty defined face as a teen and I can still notice how much buccal fat I've lost. it makes me really sad to think about all the teenagers that are insecure about looking like teenagers.
    edited for accuracy

    • @scubatuba1083
      @scubatuba1083 Рік тому +7

      Same my face use to be so chubby im 22 now and have noticed a drastic difference, can’t imagine how the people who get this surgery will look as they age

    • @ArtisanAsteroid
      @ArtisanAsteroid Рік тому +1

      They're insecure about looking like teenagers. Meanwhile, there are so many people who are adults and just act like the negative aspects of children anyway.

    • @Nylak-Otter
      @Nylak-Otter Рік тому +4

      Yep. I was of average weight and in good physical shape as a teenager, but I had a baby face. By 25 there was none left, and my jawline and cheekbones are very prominent now at 33 which makes me look almost gaunt if I'm too underweight. So glad that I never even had the idea that surgery was an option, or half my face would be gone. Damn.

    • @sexygaywizard
      @sexygaywizard Рік тому +4

      To be fair, buccal fat actually stays relatively the same as you age-- it's the other more superficial (as in close to the surface) fat pads in the face that deplete. So, the buccal fat is like, the one fat pad that you can guarantee will still give you some fat in the face as you age. I think that actually makes it worse tbh-- it would be one thing if it disappeared over time but it actually doesn't, so getting it removed makes you run the risk of having like literally no fat in your face as you age.

  • @taylorgayhart9497
    @taylorgayhart9497 Рік тому +25

    One thing to note about the before, and after’s with these procedures, is that every single celebrity who’s had one has also had a handful of other procedures as well. Without the addition of a facelift, threading, or, filler you won’t have the same results. Another thing to know about these celebrities having work done, is that they will also continue having work done for the rest of their lives. There will come a time where the people who have their fat removed, will need to start replacing it with filler to add volume back into their aging face.

  • @frea_o
    @frea_o Рік тому +62

    Literally got some sort of cosmetic procedure ad right before this video, so this is me officially mourning my previous algorithm. Appreciate your stance on not using photos as demonstrations. It's a really nice touch.

    • @soggyfroggy22
      @soggyfroggy22 Рік тому +1

      Lol same, the irony 🤦🏻‍♀️

  • @goodsofearth
    @goodsofearth Рік тому +140

    I saw a lot online about under eye filler a couple of years ago and was about to get it when a lot started going on in my life so it got pushed aside. Now I keep seeing horror stories of complications with the filler there and am SO glad I never went through with it, I don't actually even care about my under eye bags anymore either so it's a win win. I can't imagine rushing into a surgery like this because everyone else seems to be doing it...

    • @victorshopov4913
      @victorshopov4913 Рік тому +18

      Same! I've considered it because I have genetic dark circles, but looking at the possible complications I was like nope! not for me. Concealer it is.

    • @TheAwesomes2104
      @TheAwesomes2104 Рік тому +22

      What a lot of people don't realize about most filler is that it diffuses into the surrounding skin overtime, but doesn't ever really go away, which tends to give people a puffy/swollen appearance as time goes on and they get layer of filler after layer of filler.
      It seems very rare that any of these cosmetic procedures actually results in the desired look that doesn't require continuously increasing upkeep and unintended developments.

    • @hamsterfan999
      @hamsterfan999 Рік тому +1

      @@TheAwesomes2104yup. to upkeep the initial look the filler gives you, you’ll have to get the previous filler dissolved every once in a while. one small issue though: the dissolver cant distinguish between the injected hyaluronic acid (filler) and your natural hyaluronic acid. this can risk dissolving your natural facial fullness, resulting in lumps, bumps, and facial concavity. filler is advertised as this tiny cheap quick fix when in reality it can become a terrible cycle and ruin your face

    • @32fps
      @32fps Рік тому +1

      I think everyone who wants this surgery should watch the video "why I stopped filling tear troughs..." by Victorian Cosmetic Institute. Basically, fillers aren't gonna fix it, and you're probs gonna mess up your face in the process

  • @CocoLicious
    @CocoLicious Рік тому +24

    As someone who is now mid 30s and always had a chubby face - the buccal fat gets lost with age automatically. I like my face now way more than a few years ago. I think getting it removed early may be not the best course long term for aging.

  • @antidepressams
    @antidepressams Рік тому +135

    Buccal fat is more prominent in certain races more than others. My chubby cheeks are from my Chinese grandmother. With buccal fat removal trending, my TikTok algorithm was showing me contouring videos to hide my cheeks. I feel like my cheeks are a part of my racial identity so I don’t want to hide them.

    • @BeautifulEarthJa
      @BeautifulEarthJa Рік тому +10

      Recently had professional makeup for my wedding and the makeup artist said she was conouring my nose. I said 'no you will not." I'm gorgeous, why would I want to change the dimensions of my face? Ugh

    • @annelorraine9529
      @annelorraine9529 Рік тому +6

      @@BeautifulEarthJa I will say that sometimes makeup artists for events that will be photographed suggest more contour than you would usually use so that your features show up well on camera. So maybe that was her intention

    • @shirendjorgee9320
      @shirendjorgee9320 Рік тому +8

      Yeah, it’s like how rhinoplasties are marketed towards black people a lot

    • @Nylak-Otter
      @Nylak-Otter Рік тому +2

      French, English and native North American here, and I don't have any unless I'm overweight, which I was as a child. I matured out of it and my jawline and cheekbones are more prominent naturally.

    • @rotisserie8444
      @rotisserie8444 Рік тому +2

      @@Nylak-Ottercaucasians and other races have sharper features than East Asians typically.

  • @eremiss4771
    @eremiss4771 Рік тому +57

    I think you make good points.
    I have similar acceptance + gripes with plastic surgery. I only have a problem with it when people 1: get it to look like some specific other person , 2: people (especially celebs and influencers) lying about getting it, and 3: people acting like it's a requirement in some way/shape/form.

  • @TS-xn1mc
    @TS-xn1mc Рік тому +50

    Thank you for making this. Honestly, social media has ruined my self esteem. I know that sounds pathetic, but we’re constantly saturated with these unrealistic body image standards and it’s really taken a toll on me. People like you and videos like this make me feel a little better about myself.

    • @itsyvonne6512
      @itsyvonne6512 Рік тому +1

      I used to be the same way, self esteem grows with time and something that helped me was constant positive affirmations to myself in the mirror and to myself. Also, watch Lorry Hill, she talks about celebrity procedures and it's very helpful ❤️

    • @TS-xn1mc
      @TS-xn1mc Рік тому

      @@itsyvonne6512 thank you 😭 it makes me feel better that you used to be like me but you’ve healed from that. That means there’s hope for me too. Do positive affirmations actually work? I’ve tried them a couple times but I always feel silly and if I say something like “you’re beautiful” the voice in my mind goes “no you’re not.”

    • @TheKinseth
      @TheKinseth Рік тому

      You have to do them for a long time. It's a behavioral change, and anyone who's tried to cut out sugar could tell you it isn't easy by any means.
      That being said, if you're under the age of 24-27, your brain is still maturing. It's chaos up there until it's fully cooked. If you're over that age, it isn't necessarily easier to deal with mental health issues, but you no longer have to worry about the lack of stability that comes from an adolescent brain.

    • @TS-xn1mc
      @TS-xn1mc Рік тому

      @@TheKinseth I’m 27. I have heard that confidence gets easier as we age, so I’m hoping I get to that point soon so I’m not still hating myself into my 30s.

    • @gwennorthcutt421
      @gwennorthcutt421 Рік тому

      you're not pathetic, all these videos and celebrities are designed to make you feel envious and left out. if you see these things constatnly, then its a constant fight against these images and messages. hell, i have an extremely healthy self esteem and even im not immune to the feeling of dissatisfaction.
      i didn't always feel good about myself, so yes, it very much is possible for you to walk it back. several things helped me, and i'll share the easier ones with you.
      first: yes, affirmations help, but i found it more helpful to take a "changing thought patterns" strat versus deliberately telling myself affirmations. like, instead of being self depreciative, id think, no thats not true, thats silly. or even just joke about how cool and hot i am. like "i am too sexy to be struggling making my bed so much, damn fitted sheets", etc.
      second, find role models! find people who share your traits, people who you admire. its easier to like others before yourself, but if you find ppl who look like you, then its easier to recognize your own features. it doesnt even have to be someone you think is handsome/etc if you like them! i remmeber having a panicked moment at seeing a burst capilliary on my nose, but then i remebered a guy with a whole red nose but he just looked like a guy! and he had people who liked him too! so what the hell was i so worked up about?
      third.... well, i like to asked mt loved ones for compliments outright, haha. for the above reasons but also because since its so easy to get stuck in ones own head, having an outside perspective can give you a new view on yourself. having support and giving it can really do wonders. and remember, those images and such are made to make you feel bad. dont let them! remember that they're a teensy part of the population and there is so much behind a video or face you're not privvy to. its just not worth worrying about.
      sorry for the essay, but ihope it helps

  • @Wolf_Avatar
    @Wolf_Avatar Рік тому +322

    If someone is unhappy with their super-squishable cheeks, then I can see this procedure being good for them.
    Wanting to look malnourished, I don't get. I do not want to shame anyone, do what makes you happy, I just don't get it.

    • @brewski118sempire
      @brewski118sempire Рік тому +27

      Same here. I tend to have more "unconventional" tastes in physical beauty so super-squishable cheeks are super attractive to me 😂

    • @alliew31
      @alliew31 Рік тому +27

      As someone who is in my early 20s and get confused for 14-16 by most people because of my chubby cheeks, I can definitely get why some people want to remove them. I don't get alcohol at restaurants just because I'm tired of having the waiter give me grief and then talk about how I'm going to look 30 when I'm 50

    • @MissMoontree
      @MissMoontree Рік тому +21

      You will also look old. Facial fat is a sign of youth. If you want to look 40 at age 30, then go for it! But if you are unhappy, don't worry, it will go away when you get older naturally too.

    • @Man-ej6uv
      @Man-ej6uv Рік тому +3

      i have cheeks that sunk in when i was like a young teen. runs in the family. i like it.

    • @basiliskgenesis
      @basiliskgenesis Рік тому +13

      as someone who was anorexic as a teen- looking malnourished was part of it. part of this disorder is wanting to look sick and be seen so someone will help us.

  • @nat6098
    @nat6098 Рік тому +44

    Trends like these are a big reason why I shifted into making my own clothing and going with a more history inspired look. If I am always out of trend I never have to worry about keeping up. Also my cheeks are big and soft and babies will spend hours stroking them which is a win. I barely have to do anything when looking after someone's baby because of these cheeks so I'm keeping them.
    ETA: most historical clothing also comes designed for padding to be worn so you change the clothes and padding not the body which I like. Just another reason I'm drawn to it.

    • @randomtinypotatocried
      @randomtinypotatocried Рік тому +8

      The historical fashion community has been so much more comforting to be in than the regular fashion community (even the plus size part of the community is sadly very toxic now)

    • @nat6098
      @nat6098 Рік тому +5

      @@randomtinypotatocried I found that too. The historical fashion community and the goth/alt fashion community have been very inclusive and encouraging to me. It was such a nice thing to find after feeling beaten down by trendy fashions.

    • @ally939
      @ally939 Рік тому +1

      Ooohhh, that sounds really cool! I’ve already given up keeping up with trends and just wear whatever I like (and that way I can still wear the same clothes for years and years), but I’ve never been involved in historical fashion or making my own clothes
      If it’s not too broad/complicated question to ask, how would you suggest getting started with learning to make your own clothes? It sounds really awesome!

    • @nat6098
      @nat6098 Рік тому +1

      @@ally939 honestly just decide what you'd like to make and look up tutorials! I started with skirts then went onto shirts and now I'm starting to alter patterns to fit my image more. There are tons of channels here on UA-cam that specialize in historic clothing and they're all a lot of fun to watch. You start with looking into 1880s skirts then next thing you know you're watching videos on 1920s underwear.

    • @KaloCheyna
      @KaloCheyna Рік тому +2

      Yep - feel like your hips are too small, or the wrong shape? Pad them out! Ditto with the bust, or pad out areas around what you want to look smaller by comparison.
      Better thing about all the padding is that you can vary the shaping from day to day, and even just go without completely if you can't be arsed. It's completely reversible, instantly, unlike surgery. (Okay, some shapewear/padding takes a bit to get in and out of, but even then that takes less time, money and effort than surgery)

  • @mordecaitoth6703
    @mordecaitoth6703 Рік тому +18

    Another excellent video with a lot of good information. I would like to add that not only do people need to be better informed about the long term effects and risks but people need to understand that the sole purpose of the whole cosmetic industry is to profit from your insecurity. They are not trying to help you.
    Don't rush to give them your money and certainly don't risk your health.

  • @sunnyandthechlo
    @sunnyandthechlo Рік тому +22

    It's so weird to me because I had a long illness that made me quite underweight and what I hated most about the way it left me looking was that my face was so sunken in. It made me look more ill. I was able to finally gain the weight back and I'm much happier that my face isn't sunken in and sickly.

  • @SnooDoodle
    @SnooDoodle Рік тому +12

    I'm getting flashbacks to when someone didn't like how long their toes were and got them surgically shortened, only to then have problems balancing and standing up. Getting stuff done to ease feelings about our own body is one thing but it's never a good idea to take a thing out of your body that's helping keep things running.
    At least if you were bullied in school over your eyebrows or any other hair on your body that "shouldn't be there" it grew back in, there's no putting the toothpaste back in the tube when it comes to body fat and things along those lines. Even if you did, it wouldn't be how it was before it was taken out. Always gotta be wary about this stuff and give it some time if it's something you're considering.

  • @katrinamassett4268
    @katrinamassett4268 Рік тому +108

    I got jaw surgery not only because I needed it medically, but also because I hated the lower part of my face. Having self confidence has improved my mental health significantly.

    • @xouthpaw
      @xouthpaw Рік тому +8

      I had double jaw surgery too! Talk about some miserable recovery..

    • @peppito8408
      @peppito8408 Рік тому +2

      Had one too sadly it failed

    • @supervivo7069
      @supervivo7069 Рік тому +2

      @@peppito8408 How does jaw surgery fail?

    • @peppito8408
      @peppito8408 Рік тому

      @@supervivo7069 got back to how it was, but they are multiple way for it too fail for example it can’t make you face asymmetrical and other stuff

  • @sakurabunnn_
    @sakurabunnn_ Рік тому +12

    I love how positively you talk about yourself, so refreshing to see 😊

  • @bellsandthreads9938
    @bellsandthreads9938 Рік тому +19

    This has been a trend with celebrities and influencers in Brazil for at least 4 years now and everyone ends up looking the same.

  • @Orteal
    @Orteal Рік тому +25

    I have wanted top surgery for 3 - 4 years but im still gonna wait a couple years to make sure im fully sure. Bodies aren't trends and i am only gonna change my body if it improves my life and my life only. I don't care about these 'trends'

  • @spwarren95
    @spwarren95 Рік тому +11

    Im actually working on my thesis which is partly about this subject. The general consensus is that the more time someone spends on social media looking at beauty or celebrity content, the more they self objectify themselves as they compare their appearance to others, which leads to an increased interest in cosmetic surgery. Photo editing also plays a role, since you can create an idealized version of yourself digitally which you then compare to your actual face. Typically, someone with a higher body image and higher media literacy do not have an increased interest in cosmetic surgery, even if they have body/facial dissatisfaction. There are differences across cultures, but these are the general findings in the scientific literature.

  • @somebody1thegame
    @somebody1thegame Рік тому +1

    Thank you for not showing photos of people with the work that you were describing as, "going overboard". That reasoning is refreshing to hear

  • @Posidilia
    @Posidilia Рік тому +27

    This video made me think about how in the past I thought about how I wished my face looked different but really I'd only want it changed so OTHER people would think I looked better. But currently, I want top surgery, and that's something I want to be done solely because I think I'll feel more comfortable in my body with my breasts gone despite knowing that a chunk of straight men will think my chest won't be attractive anymore.
    Just feel more confident about that decision. Let's hope in 2023 I finally push myself to get a consultation for it!

  • @tamikens
    @tamikens Рік тому +21

    My face and body have always been "out of fad". The one thing I've learned in being on this planet for almost 31 years is that it's okay to have insecurities and to work towards changing them, either naturally or artificially, if you want to change them at all. But you should *never* let someone else dictate what you should work on. I went from being picked on for my thick eyebrows as a kid to women talking about how jealous they were of them as an adult. My husband has said that he always liked my round face because it makes me look kind and happy and sweet, which were all things he admires in a woman. Fads change from year to year and things that you may be told are unattractive today may be attractive tomorrow.

    • @elucified
      @elucified Рік тому +2

      I think it's also important to mention how within the English-speaking population, a lot of these trends are from and targeted to middle-class white girls. POC are still left out of the picture.
      As an Asian with the classic monolids (meaning there's only no crease), I've watched monolids go in and out of trends constantly. "Exotic", "Unique", words that were used to describe the trend that still managed to alienate and other. For me, it's honestly easier to just consume asian media instead that show average normal people to realize how skewed the media has become in this idea of "beauty."

    • @soggyfroggy22
      @soggyfroggy22 Рік тому

      I had a friend in school that was bullied for her lips, now people love them.

    • @tamikens
      @tamikens Рік тому +3

      @elucified That's so true. As a black woman in America, I grew up hating so much of myself because black features are typically seen as "undesirable" unless mimicked on a white or racially ambiguous person or hyper sexualized. My lips were either too full and plump for whatever the fad was or highly sexualized. Now, people pay good money to have their lips look even a fraction as full as mine. My natural hair has always been seen as "unkempt" while other women would be complimented for similar hairstyles. And don't even get me started on the whole colorism issue where some summers when people would joke about how dark my complexion was getting while simultaneously paying money for tanning beds and other tanning treatments. I grew up constantly thinking "I wish I was white and blonde because then I would be beautiful and desirable." It took me many years to deprogram that thinking and genuinely love myself as I am.
      While there have been moves over the last 5-10 years towards creating more diverse beauty standards, it's been very slow going and certain racial groups are still heavily favored over others or added in purely for the sake of executives to scream that they're being inclusive. I think growing up and falling in love with myself and really unpacking my internalized racism was crucial to me realizing that beauty standards are so skewed, that there is genuinely no point in even paying attention to them. That we should just be striving to be the best, most healthy (mentally, emotionally, physically) versions of ourselves and fuck anyone who has an unwarranted opinion on what that should look like for you.

  • @samclovers
    @samclovers Рік тому +45

    I actually had buccal fat removal 10 years ago! I made a short showing the 10-year before and after. Seeing this whole thing pop off now is wild. I am happy with my results but I worry the current trend is having people take out more than I had done.

  • @randomDuckTape
    @randomDuckTape Рік тому +28

    I honestly thought we were entering a new age where any body type was “in.” I’ve seen Gen Z be much more inclusive and less judgmental about someone’s appearance than anyone my age or older. Brands are finally tailoring tons of clothing options for bigger people. There was the body neutrality movement trying to take off for a moment. I want to be around for that!
    I’ve had plastic surgery done before and I have never regretted it. It was a breast reduction, which is already the least regretted plastic surgery, but it was the best decision I’ve made in my whole life. It wasn’t about looks to me, I just wanted a smaller chest to be able to function like a normal person, exercise without tugging pain in my chest, have clothes fit me properly, walk without a huge jiggle! They ended up removing 5 or so lbs off my chest and I’m so amazed at how much mental energy went to thinking about my chest. I’m a firm believer that plastic surgery can do so much good, but I do know it’s important to understand risks and reasons behind wanting a procedure done.

  • @norikadolmy7274
    @norikadolmy7274 Рік тому +8

    UA-cam is suppressing your channel hard, I am subscribed and am regularly watching your content but don't get notified that you've posted, except in my recommended. Which is crazy because I always watch your videos asap. Commenting to boost your video in the almighty algorithm

  • @anarchyneverdies3567
    @anarchyneverdies3567 Рік тому +43

    I love that you’re honest about what you get done, I am as well, but I recently had a customer come through and force me to guess her age (obviously I guessed lower so she’d feel good), but I did have to ask her “you don’t have Botox though?” and her jaw dropped and she said “no”, but as someone who wants some kind of neurotoxin, I know what it looks like, and that beautifully smooth forehead was a dead giveaway 😂 I wouldn’t have noticed had she not made me guess her age, she was obviously very happy about her procedure and now I feel like a jerk but she did put it out there and I thought she looked great lol

  • @Uriel-iw6hx
    @Uriel-iw6hx Рік тому +5

    The cheek area is so complicated that doctors study and specialize in just that area. I’m at the very LEAST highly skeptical about the safety of operating near so many small structures.

  • @IkeyCaptain
    @IkeyCaptain Рік тому +248

    A 25 year old who thinks she looks old is hilariously dystopian

    • @Jarblyy
      @Jarblyy Рік тому +3

      Tell that to my growing number of grey hairs lmao

    • @Wonderlandish
      @Wonderlandish Рік тому +34

      @@Jarblyy they should be normalized, it’s a thing that comes so early to a lot of people (most women in my family start having them on puberty! And it’s so pretty, feels like it’s a womanly beauty passage, not getting old)
      Plus they’re cool af tbh, young people are allowed to have salt-and pepper hair too hehe

    • @josieerin505
      @josieerin505 Рік тому +23

      I literally know a 20 yr old who’s paranoid about getting wrinkles…SHE’S TWENTY!!!!! I want to eviscerate the head of every corporation that profits off insecurity

    • @j.j.3759
      @j.j.3759 Рік тому +31

      Tiktok has made us all unwilling participants in one giant high school. Instagram got it started, but TikTok has sent it into overdrive. I can remember a time when no one gave two craps about what anyone under 25 thought and especially didn't care what teens thought. Now, millennial women are sad because teens called them "Cheugy" a few years ago. It's sad how much importance adults are placing on the shallow opinions of teens.

    • @dragontears
      @dragontears Рік тому +7

      @@Jarblyy my mom's hair was half white at 25. My dad's dad was fully white by 30. I'm almost 40 and haven't had a single white hair yet. White hair really isn't the be all and end all of age we have made it out to be.

  • @secondhandbirthdays9261
    @secondhandbirthdays9261 Рік тому +8

    I remember watching a video about self-surgery a few years ago (maybe 4 or 5?) where someone was posting about a Buccal fat removal procedure they conducted on themselves to "make their motorcycle helmet fit" (the creator called out this BS). the most prominent thing I remember though were the comments discussing why someone would want to remove these fat pads and how weird it would be. interesting to see that we're back to this point

  • @Turbendido
    @Turbendido Рік тому +8

    I know in old Hollywood they would combine buccal fat removal with removal of some back teeth to enhance the look further. Even though these procedures have been around, it's always been about the short term gain for permanent procedures. Your cheekbones are more defined in your 20s but it doesn't matter if you will not like the results as you age.

  • @geniriley
    @geniriley Рік тому +6

    I watched a video about this today from a doctors perspective who will no longer perform the surgery. He said the only type of face that needs something like this would be Ruth Bader Ginsberg towards the end of her life, who had dropped cheeks. Renaissance women notoriously don’t have gaunt cheeks from buccal fat removal, but full faces and figures from a well lived life.

  • @authenticuser4177
    @authenticuser4177 Рік тому +8

    i've had one procedure. it's a ptosis correction. when people ask, i always tell them!! why? because there is no shame in being able to tweak something we're unhappy with, and i would hate to make others feel insecure about not being born "perfect"

  • @MiaNWC
    @MiaNWC Рік тому +14

    i'm not saying this is the correct opinion at all, but i've found that a few YTs I follow have talked about having flat chests and being proud, but then later on get boob jobs and say they did it for their self confidence, which is great for them, but makes their previous statements about being proud of your flat chest or whatever feel really disingenuous. I'm glad they were happy with what they had done, but I trust them less after that. However, I do appreciate transparency about having plastic surgery and that is certainly better than pretending to not have had anything done!!

    • @isabellamorris7902
      @isabellamorris7902 Рік тому

      I also feel like they don't owe us authenticity, though. Maybe their opinions about their body changed over time, or maybe they really were just trying to cover up insecurities the entire time. People do that, and that's fine too.
      I'm overweight and get told how I "should" look, and more importantly feel about my body, by a million different sources. It's the same logic as people who claim to be body positive harassing people who lose weight. (I'm not saying you would harass anyone, but I do think the only people who should have opinions at all about others' bodies are themselves, their sexual partners and their doctors.)

    • @MiaNWC
      @MiaNWC Рік тому +1

      @Isabella Morris I definitely agree, which is why I said I don't think it's the right opinion, but I do feel that way regardless, and I don't blame them or think they should do xyz with their bodies at all. my point is that there is always some unintended side effect which nobody in this situation chose, but because of the message initially put out there. I'm happy they are more comfortable, but i think whether we like it or not, there is still the side effect of changing their minds and the message it gives to the audience, whether intended or not.

  • @neverneverland5836
    @neverneverland5836 Рік тому +19

    I despise the way that bodies are trends. I'm barely out of my teens and beginning the long process of healing from deep, deep insecurities and disordered eating (which partially stemmed from the Instagram lean body "trend" of the early-mid 2010s), and I've finally given up on the idea of ever getting any cosmetic procedures - I've realised that getting lipo or fillers would only make me think about those features more, which would start the whole spiral again.
    Also, I would like to add that thin bodies never went "out of style". Even during the BBL era, those of us with curves were expected to have flat stomachs, no back rolls and slim faces, and everyone on TV/social media/film who wasn't "slim-thick" was just thin. The marketing of bodies as products is a fucking hellscape and I wish healing for everyone who feels like I did a few years ago.

  • @Swell_Popcorn_Simps
    @Swell_Popcorn_Simps Рік тому +107

    Thanks Swell, glad this one wasn't an I tried it so you don't have to 🙃🍿

  • @rion2499
    @rion2499 Рік тому +179

    I’m transmasc and currently trying to get top surgery, but need to pay for a psych evaluation before a surgeon would even consider talking about doing such a procedure for me. And I just find that crazy: like yeah, it’s important to be sure and give yourself time to research and think on such surgeries, but if I’m at this point I think I’ve thought through it all enough and the hoops are just exhausting, tbh. (I’m almost 29 btw; god I just feel old and tired waiting for my life to start).
    No shame to people who want to get purely cosmetic plastic surgery, at all, but damn if I’ve been thinking about the double standard lately. Because I’m trying to transition to the opposite of my assigned birth, surgeons will be more hesitant to do such procedures because they don’t conform to how I “should” want to change my body to look. Mind-boggling.
    Idk, just a tired and rambling queer; good video tho!

    • @magnus1383
      @magnus1383 Рік тому +42

      I know that feel, bro. It's weird how much work they let people have done on the fly even at young ages and procedures that are genuinely dangerous, but the moment it's a gender-affirmint procedure they need to make you wait years. Even just hormones take longer than this. I really rather not be well in my thirties before I can be how I want to be. I also rather not have people get horrible complications from these barely regulated non-gender-related procedures because _those_ don't need even close to the amount of scrutiny.

    • @lizb7271
      @lizb7271 Рік тому +33

      As a trans woman in the UK, ye gods trans healthcare is shite. I think that the conversation around plastic surgery is kind of bad and tends to ignore trans perspectives.
      I think the discourse is centred around whether or not it is OK to have surgery and under what circumstances, rather than the wider aspect of how we value people for their looks and the pressure put on people (including men) to be beautiful, which is what causes some people to seek out surgery. If the conversation is the former, it is either going to have to make careful exceptions for trans people or it is going to argue, either implicitly or explicitly, against gender affirming surgery.

    • @ellencoleman4604
      @ellencoleman4604 Рік тому +16

      I had no idea they did that for gender surgery too, I thought it was for the hormones and any surgery was just a matter of paying money. What a double standard! I would argue that a psyche examination sounds like a good idea for any aesthetic surgery in general, but then again it's not like tattoos and piercings require one.

    • @ann-gt4hh
      @ann-gt4hh Рік тому +19

      👆 This right here. I’m agender and have looked into top surgery (decided I rather bind bc I want the option of tits or no tits xD) and my doctor pretty much told me I *had* to be transmasc to even get permission. That just put me off, but yeah. In order for someone to get gender affirming healthcare that will alleviate gender dysphoria and mental stress a whole damn psych eval is *required*?? I could understand encouraged.. And meanwhile BBL is given to teens :/

    • @puppppppies
      @puppppppies Рік тому +13

      It's because in a lot of places the government hopes that you'll just give up and/or off yourself so that they don't have to keep pretending to care about freaks like us. I'm so thankful to live in an informed consent state and it really should be the standard everywhere.

  • @ladyowl8732
    @ladyowl8732 Рік тому +9

    In my 40s, always had super chubby cheeks, one of the things that attracted my husband to me. Over the last few years my cheekbones have emerged and honestly it looks good and natural.

    • @camelopardalis84
      @camelopardalis84 Рік тому

      That's one important issue with getting things done: You may - according to your own standards - improve your looks from "mostly okay" to "good" when having plastic surgery when you're weighing 160 lbs (I'm just using that as an absolute number, the height, or sex, or gender of the person doesn't matter), but if you then happen to lose weight until you're left with 135 lbs, you might start looking "odd" instead of "mostly okay" because you were sculpted in a way that makes you look better at the current weight you had when you had the procedure.
      And this would be an example of something that could happen if you're initially happy with the result of the surgery..

  • @NoProHarrie
    @NoProHarrie Рік тому +20

    Being a hermit who does not spend allot of time on Tiktok and not looking at media with new stars besides UA-cam I can say that I totally don't get this whole normalisation of plastic surgery for healthy people.
    I remember hearing about Christine Ricci having work done to get roles and to this day still do not understand why one would do any of it.
    I may look odd but at least it's me 😅
    Then again I may need some dental work done 🤭
    I think I like natural better 99% of the time

  • @melancholist
    @melancholist Рік тому +4

    my issue with all of this is people insisting that its their "choice" i mean sure it was my choice to get a large popcorn after everyone in the world told me how good the large popcorn is and the cashier stared me down until i picked the large popcorn. authentically my choice entirely.

  • @sweetness371
    @sweetness371 Рік тому +3

    I watched a plastic surgeon on UA-cam talk about this subject. He's one who no longer does Buccal fat removal because of how risky it is. He said you actually can't reverse the procedure with filler, etc. Once it's done, it's done. I wonder how these celebrities will look when they're in their 60s.

  • @florencianwhimsy
    @florencianwhimsy Рік тому +10

    thank you for your nuanced opinion about cosmetic surgery!!! i see so many people treating it as a black and white topic, and i think that's so silly. I lost a lot of weight rapidly first due to chemo, and then because i switched to a less hormone-heavy form of birth control, and it took a toll on my breasts, so i had them lifted. best money i've spent in my life.

  • @wolfwise1135
    @wolfwise1135 Рік тому +5

    Buccal fat is named that because of the muscle that spans the area “buccinator”

  • @The.Nasty.
    @The.Nasty. Рік тому +23

    Wishing you and your family well, take care of yourself.

  • @HappyHyperHuggieNini
    @HappyHyperHuggieNini Рік тому +7

    Honestly, my mom used to say "thin cheeks and high cheekbones will keep us (meaning her) looking young". She looks like her face is deflated now.

  • @laurencarlson1235
    @laurencarlson1235 Рік тому +3

    I definitely think that plastic surgeons are capitalizing off of the popularity of these trends. I was rejected an appointment from one plastic surgeon when I was 17 and wanted kybella (a noninvasive injection) on my chin since he said there was nothing wrong. I went to a second doctor who told me kybella wasn’t enough, I needed full liposuction on my chin/neck, buccal fat removal and a chin implant. When I explained that I didn’t want buccal fat removal since my face may change as I age based off of what I’ve read and it potentially damaging the nerves, he mocked me for “believing everything I read on Reddit” (it was from a research paper lol). I didn’t get any work done and they’ve called me three times since

  • @zhan768
    @zhan768 Рік тому +24

    This area is a common donor site used for grafts in other surgeries, I know of a few different procedures that use it. I think the destigmatization helps a lot of people who get plastic surgery for medical reasons, but I think there’s a genuine issue of people basically being ‘forced’ into cosmetic plastic surgery and I hate that the two are lumped together in the same category ):

  • @gretablackwell495
    @gretablackwell495 Рік тому +1

    Wild to me that some people can just get dangerous face surgery on a whim but I, a nonbinary person, need therapy appointments, several years of reflecting on my feelings towards societal expectations, beauty, and gender, and a made-up backstory about being a tomboy as a kid just to maybe get top surgery if I’m lucky. What the hell, y’all.

  • @lubeeluonline
    @lubeeluonline Рік тому +6

    I have always felt that there should be some kind of compulsory psych help that goes alongside permanent cosmetic procedures. Where I am in the world, procedures linked to fertility often have a mandatory psychological session or sessions before the procedure is done. Even so much as getting your birth control removed has a recommended counselling session. I’m not against surgery at all. But if someone wants to have something so permanent done, it would be wise (in my opinion) to talk it through with a psychologist first.

  • @caulfield78
    @caulfield78 Рік тому +2

    Thanks for being open about your own cosmetic surgery. I just wanna say you look amazing!

  • @disneyroxxx
    @disneyroxxx Рік тому +3

    I’m 31 now, hated my face my entire life and just now feel like I’ve grown into/ feel comfortable with it. I feel like so many of us go through the same thing, and really figure out as we are older how beautiful/unique our features are. I’m glad I never got anything done and tbh therapy is cheaper and better than any plastic surgery lol

  • @AccordingtoJexi
    @AccordingtoJexi Рік тому +6

    I'm finally on trend haha. I lost 40 lbs due to cancer treatment and am now skinner than I have ever been. Woohoo hot girl winter for me! ☺💜

    • @AccordingtoJexi
      @AccordingtoJexi Рік тому +2

      @AnaPie89 thank you! I still have a few more steps in treatment but I'm definitely doing a ton better. Thanks so much!

  • @rachaelpracht
    @rachaelpracht Рік тому +5

    AGREED! If you are an influencer or celebrity and you have a following I don't think you need to tell everyone you got work done. HOWEVER, if you are promoting ANYTHING that says "you can look like me, too!" via food, exercise or beauty products YOU MUST tell us what work you've had done. That has to be a requirement. I mean, come on.

  • @oldshoes5199
    @oldshoes5199 Рік тому

    Love the thoughtful approach. Being transparent with yourself about why you want something (particularity something permanent), is so important.

  • @carprincess
    @carprincess Рік тому

    I'm glad that you brought up this topic and that you aren't shaming anyone who goes ahead and gets these procedures done. I also appreciate that you caution everyone to think twice about it as well.

  • @mirp2583
    @mirp2583 Рік тому

    I love how you are so confident talking about your insecurities!! Thank you

  • @Ray_Vun
    @Ray_Vun Рік тому +6

    it used to be pretty common for influencers and celebs to pose in pics with their mouths slightly open, because that'd make the cheeks go a bit more into the mouth and thus make the face look slimmer. and i think this procedure is exactly that but done permanently. and the issue is, while it might give that slimmer face look when you're just standing there, once your face starts moving, once you start speaking, you're gonna look awful, because it'll look like some sci fi creature whose getting the life force drained out of them and they're going from young, to old to a mummy.
    i don't think i've seen a single one of these people who got the surgery actually look good. makes me wonder how much these people lack a mirror to see that there's something really wrong with their face after getting this surgery

  • @alyssajones3545
    @alyssajones3545 Рік тому +1

    I really appreciate your transparency. Big sister Amanda. ❤❤

  • @briyonce777
    @briyonce777 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for having a short intro, it’s giving graham stephen and I’m appreciative

  • @DeeNelly
    @DeeNelly Рік тому

    I really appreciate your perspective and social commentary. I have a hard time articulating my thoughts (lovely neurodivergent brain, I have). Hearing you vocalizing your viewpoint has helped me to develop my own outlook on these subjects.

  • @Dorkubynn
    @Dorkubynn Рік тому +3

    People are constantly shocked by my age. I'm 31 , and I look about 24, maybe 25 . I've been using sunscreen religiously since I was 12. It fucking works

  • @blakebrown6031
    @blakebrown6031 Рік тому

    I really liked this video! I enjoyed hearing Amanda’s perspective on the intersection of body image, social media, and plastic surgery!

  • @annawesometheflameingpikac3688

    As someone who has a strong, sometimes crippling, fear of surgery, I'm glad you talked about your own experience with Plastic surgery. I'll admit that when you said you'd gotten work done around your eyes I had trouble looking at them during the video, tormented with mostly false images of needles and scalpels, and for years I looked down on anyone who'd go through my greatest fear for your appearance. But you helped me realize something horrific to me just... Isn't scary for other people. Some people aren't scared of surgery, they aren't forcing themself to go through with it. So, thanks

  • @crayoniecran
    @crayoniecran Рік тому +12

    i really like how you described your opinion of plastic surgery; i’ve never really been a fan of it because we’re all supposed to look different and like ourselves but also i very much support trans people’s decisions to get plastic surgery to look more feminine or masculine so it’s been hard trying to find the good middle area between those two slightly differing opinions for me. i personally could live in my face and body for the rest of my life and be okay but as a nonbinary person definitely some procedures at some point would be nice to look more androgynous!
    this is also just a great discussion, thank you!

  • @owl.feathers
    @owl.feathers Рік тому +1

    I was watching a video by a plastic surgeon about why he doesn't do buccal fat removal anymore and one of the reasons was that it often doesn't turn out the way patients think it will (i.e., it doesn't hollow their cheeks out very much). I suspect that that might be because celebrities/influencers have _also_ had jaw fillers that "complete" the look

  • @amethystfae4075
    @amethystfae4075 Рік тому

    deeply appreciate when people can be reasonable about plastic surgery. like. i think its wonderful that people have the power to change how they look, even in the extreme ways that get hated on a bunch, but youre absolutely right, its a HUGE problem when people assume that everyone prettier than them is just naturally that way cause people aren't open about it. Youre so right about everything in this video. People can choose to look however they want and no one deserves shaming, but it's concerning how many people jump in because they think it will fix them or its popular. It should be a well-informed choice based on what you want, not what youre afraid of.

  • @charmer63
    @charmer63 Рік тому +1

    Amanda starting off with “wear sunscreen” is why we love her.

  • @ReeCrowsFray
    @ReeCrowsFray Рік тому

    Omg THANK YOU!!!!! I’ve had fillers on my top lip for the same reason and it was hardly noticeable but enough to give me a showing upper lip while smiling. I’ve also done Botox twice for my forehead bc I have RBF. That reminds me of all the trauma and stress from chronically scowling to protect myself from every other person I’ve come across. Because I had a very dark life, from birth until a couple of years ago and it makes me very sad to see my smile lines are almost not there, yet my scowl, anger, and rage face is the prominent one even while I’m just sleeping.

  • @pleh7019
    @pleh7019 Рік тому +2

    I know it's not popular, but I actually am against the normalization of aesthetic procedures, regardless of whether an influencer inspired it or if it's deemed subtle. There is a continuum of aesthetic choices - nail polish and nose jobs aren't the same. Regarding the latter type, the social consequences are wholly rotten and we know the motivations are bad for us, but for some reason we feel the need to lay women's sanity, money, and liberation at the feet of "Oh you do you, as long as it's 'for yourself,' it's not hurting anyone." But, it is. Additionally, most of the public conversation around this ignores the basic fact of these being unnecessary medical procedures that have risk and are being ADVERTISED!

  • @elenagonzalez8463
    @elenagonzalez8463 Рік тому +3

    What ive learned is that its okay to be unattractive. I dont think anyone has ever considered me attractive or that ive ever considered myself attractive but that doesn't mean I serve no value in the world

  • @elizabethb4168
    @elizabethb4168 Рік тому +14

    I agree that we should destigmatize plastic surgery and other cosmetic procedures, cuz as it is, when people call for celebrities and influencers to be transparent about getting work done it comes off as, "tell the truth so we can shame you for being an ugly lying fake" rather than, "hey, let people know that you've had work done so people don't think it's all natural and unfairly compare themselves" or "oh hey, that person had some work done, good to know, hope it came out how they wanted"
    If people keep shaming people for having work done, we can't reasonably expect honesty about it

    • @Rhaifha
      @Rhaifha Рік тому +1

      Exactly, it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't kind of situation in terms of transparency. I can't really fault celebs for sticking to the default "hide it"

  • @brea557
    @brea557 Рік тому +16

    Nice vid! Also, regarding what you said about getting lip filler i would definitely look into a lip flip first/instead! it targets exactly what you’re looking for! there are a lot of youtube videos on it too 😊

  • @momomomo69
    @momomomo69 Рік тому +1

    I think society as a whole needs to understand that companies are literally profiting off of people's insecurities.

  • @alysonnance-orr777
    @alysonnance-orr777 Рік тому

    Brilliant!!! "If you want plastic surgery, just know WHY you want it."
    Thank you for that!!!💞

  • @victoriabjordahl5541
    @victoriabjordahl5541 Рік тому +2

    It really bugs me that no one (other than surgeons on yt) mentions that removing the buccal fat pad is permanent. Once it is removed you will never be able to get it back. It generally stays the same size throughout your life while other fat stores reduce with age, removing the buccal day pad will ultimately age people and their faces will never be the same.

  • @mtzzz3013
    @mtzzz3013 Рік тому +2

    This is cool! When I saw you made a video about this I said "hell yeah" out loud.
    I just think you are describing the reasons you are getting the procedures as better reasons than other women and it's a little competitive. It comes off as "my reasons aren't for trends, that's just them" but all beauty standards and personal perceptions of beauty are ifluenced by the same things. Your plastic surgery isn't "cooler" because it's not based on trends because that's impossible. Super cool video, just the way you speak about your own surgery does come off as "mine is better because I'm cool and won't worry about trends" and damn

    • @mtzzz3013
      @mtzzz3013 Рік тому

      I think the work you've had done lookds great, and the points about following trends being dangerous is very true. rock on. just came off as you thinking you're better than them because your motivations were different (just original take okay love you bye)

  • @FerretinSocks
    @FerretinSocks Рік тому +3

    i support plastic surgery (i'm trans) but i honestly think it SHOULD scare people. if it doesn't scare you, someone is lying to you.

  • @nuhuhbackoff
    @nuhuhbackoff Рік тому +1

    I think a large component is that, like stated in the video, something is being taken away rather than being added. there's a certain horror to that being done to someone's face voluntarily, especially for what to many feels like an insecurity most people didn't even know existed (let alone one they're apparently supposed to have now) until a few weeks ago. there are too many important nerves in the affected area!
    also before I found out it was a trend the only time I'd heard about buccal fat removal was from that reddit thread where a girl liveblogged every step of her doing it to herself...

    • @cheesebread3
      @cheesebread3 Рік тому

      Yes and it’s irreversible! You can never replicate those fat pads. I doubt filler will look anywhere near the same

  • @TheKatarama
    @TheKatarama Рік тому +8

    I don’t remember where I heard this quote, but I feel like it really resonates with this topic: “trends change, certain decisions, however, are permanent.

  • @laurachristensen3201
    @laurachristensen3201 Рік тому +3

    I did lip filler for the same reason you want to and I absolutely loved the results. I was super insecure about my lip disappearing when smiling and I also had wrinkly lips so when wearing lipstick it never looked smooth and I hated it. I got 1ml done on two separate occasions a few years ago and haven’t felt the need to get more since ☺️

  • @Swell_Simps_United
    @Swell_Simps_United Рік тому +28

    Is anyone else UwU to keep their cheeks out of spite and make them bigger so they can clap both of their cheeks? 🥺