The truth is, most companies, regardless of how good their product is, are a few bad months away from bankruptcy. It doesn't matter if it's their own fault, recession, or an act of god. It is what it is.
Can you imagine Coke selling undrinkable beverages for years and telling consumers "Just keep drinking it and give us money. Eventually we'll create a drink that tastes good?"
Company: *makes horrible product.* Creator: This product is horrible Company: *shocked Pikachu face* They’re not mad that the product got a bad review, they’re mad that thousands of people know that it’s bad without buying the product first.
It is really some of the most gaslight-y behavior out there. They sell something publicly to the public. The public makes reviews publicly. The company: "how dare?"
I’m a business owner. If people stopped doing business with me, it would affect me a lot. And yet, no one has a moral obligation to support my business. It is my job as a business owner to create products and services other people want. Business is inherently risky, and business owners sign up for this risk.
I bet if people came to you with a legitimate complaint, you would hear them out and try to fix the problem. That is what a good business person or designer/creator does. Listens to criticism and makes it right or improves upon the product. I hope your business sees much success. With the rise of social media, people get all upset if anyone criticizes their product or service and lashes out. If Henry Ford or Steve Jobs gave up after hearing criticism, life would be much different. (Yes they were both terrible people but creative inventors who didn't quit). Yes there are a few bad players, but mostly it's just business and isn't personal. I'd rather get complaints over no responses. At least with complaints, you know they tried it and want to help make it better.
You don't seem like the type of business owner to release a completely unfinished product and pikachu face when people start pointing out the obvious problems. I hope you have a really nice month and can afford some time off with the fam soon.
y'know, it's almost like that's the reason bosses get the big bucks - like, they came up with the financial capital to start the thing, so it's almost as if they might have a right to get a large return on their investment i'm probably way off base here - but i wonder if anyone has come up with that argument before and whether there's a name for that kind of system 🤔
Exactly, you're never entitled to success automatically. It comes from years of hard work and a good idea. Plus smart people around you who can make things happen in logistics, sales, marketing, etc. I think some businesses feel like if they put out any trendy whatever people flock because of the internet or going viral.
WattPad's downfall after being acquired by WebToon is depressing because so many Webtoon creators are coming out with the same stories: predatory contracts, NDAs, having no control over their IPs. It seems like a rotten company overall
I was about to mention this too! After seeing the exposé about webtoon originals contracts on Reddit, Wattpad's fall from grace makes way more sense now. Hell, I think both platforms got the horrible coin system around the same time.
South Korean companies and predatory contracts, a match made in hell. The same happens with V&U, a SK vtuber agency - I recently watched a video talking about the ridiculous resignation clauses a former talent faced.
Reminds me of what’s going on with fans of the Star Wars hotel on Jenny Nickleson’s video going after her for being too harsh on it… the hotel is already closed!!! If her critiques are so invalid and incorrect why is it closed? It’s almost like it was an overall bad experience not worth what you had to pay, just like she experienced lol. I appreciate mediocre and bad reviews of things so we can get a full honest look of the experience. I don’t trust influencers who only have 100% positive things to say because I know they’re getting paid to say it
I finally watched it in all of its entirety, and think Jenny has valid criticisms about everything. She got seated behind a pole and the app used to choose your story didn’t work for her among other things, and to think she paid $6000 for those glitches and other fuckery when it was supposed to be a luxury one of kind experience. And then there’s Jenny needing to blast Disney on her twitter in order to get a refund for the memory maker when other people in the same boat couldn’t get Disney to respond or give them a refund. The star wars hotel deserved to fail. Too niche and too expensive for most people. It does makes me happy inside whenever something Disney does turns out to be an epic failure.
haha, are people really upset? shes the one who spent $6000 to be seated behind a pole for a larp experience where participation had the staff acting coldly- at a now closed hotel. she has every right to complain for such a waste of money! anyone defending that garbage hotel should rethink their life and financial choices..
haha, are people really upset? shes the one who spent $6000 to be seated behind a pole for a larp experience where participation had the staff acting coldly- at a now closed hotel. she has every right to complain for such a waste of money! anyone defending that garbage hotel should rethink their life and financial choices..
the thing about her review also is... It's the first "influencer" review I've seen of the galactic star cruiser where they deeply engage with core issues in the design... one holo sabacc table leading to a line, some of the bridge crew activities being more boring than other ones, and the most striking thing, the large amount of people in the "Climate simulator" I have a friend who went and he said that little tiny outdoor space was always packed with older teens and adults and became the unofficial "cringe free" zone during his "Cruise"
A better question to ask is "Why do companies feel entitled to success?" Especially tech companies, which are expensive af. If your product sucks, maybe your company shouldn't succeed. Free market blah blah blah.
I find it pretty amusing how a lot of people in the “ethics in journalism” crowd get all pissy when someone actually has proper ethical standards, and posts an honest review they don’t agree with. Maybe “ethics” was never the issue. 🤔
Lol well, a decent number of reviewers and reporters aren't honest, so it is a problem. But in this instance, he's just giving his honest opinion, and it just happened to be negative. That's just him doing his job as a reviewer. People crying about it need to get over it and let him do his job.
I totally agree that negative reviews are not always a bad thing. As a homebody who prefers to buy stuff online I rely heavily on reviews I see online before buy a product, especially ones that cost quite a lot of money. Seeing ONLY positive reviews is actually more of a red flag to me as a consumer than having a good balance of positive and negative reviews. If anything, knowing the negative aspects of the product helps adjust my expectations of it to a more realistic one so I rarely get disappointed when I get it in the mail
Same here! I'm always skeptical of product reviews that are 100% positive, especially the ones that don't even leave a review, just a 5/5 or 10/10 star rating with nothing written or words like "great product" or "works great". Glowing reviews can be manufactured and bought, so a product with a well balanced amount of positive and negative reviews is always welcome when online shopping for me.
Seriously! It was one of the first things my parents taught me to look out for to be more aware online. I really don’t understand how people don’t think that’s a red flag. And honestly I find people who feel like an honest bad review is mean and should just not be shared is a red flag for them. And negative reviews can be really helpful! If a review is saying clothes run small so I’d get a larger size, or how you can’t use a kitchen utensil on a nonstick surface which is all I have that’s super helpful!
Honestly same, I often times avoid 5 star reviewed places because it tells me that they only bring in a specific type of customer that doesn’t have variations of tastes.
I ALSO heavily shop online rather than go outside LOL and the best tip I ever learned wrt: reviews was to look at the 3 star reviews. They will usually be the nuanced ones with pros and cons to consider, rather than just the two extremes of consumer experience in the 5 star and 1 star reviews (and to a certain extent, 4 and 2). I may disagree with a 3 star reviewer's conclusions or see different things as positives/negatives than they do, but it gives me the most information to decide for myself. Plus they're extremely unlikely to be fake because who would bother to fake reviews that aren't either 5 or 1 stars?
Also negative reviews are really useful. I definitely turn to them a lot more than the positive because they let me know the flaws and then I can decide which product I want and what product is worth its flaws.
I remember when Linus Tech Tips got in trouble for poorly testing/reviewing a GPU cooling block prototype from Billet Labs, the prototype had specific instructions on what hardware to use with it and LTT ignored that. LTT dragged Billet Labs in their review, which harmed the small company reputation. The prototype was supposed to be returned to Billet Labs. Instead, it was auctioned off for charity. So yeah, creators can potentially destroy small companies.
@@biteofdogBillet labs is still operating though. I get what you’re trying to say but clearly you and other people were made aware of this and the company was able to rectify the situation. With how fast you can go viral on the internet nowadays, small companies can clap back and be heard when they are done dirty imo
yeah, but don't you know the ~*~entrepreneurs~*~ who started the company have to be allowed to cash in on that bubble first, for being so brave and entrepreneurial???
honestly i'm kind of obsessed with vassallo tweeting 'do no harm' at a tech reviewer and can only assume he does it in other areas of life. like the barista gives him the wrong coffee and he stares at them gravely while saying 'to protect and serve'. what an overly serious prick
Swell: gets Danny and Drew's names mixed up Me: *takes out lighter and starts to sway it in the air as I begin sing* I am Drew, and I am Danny, and we are not the same person
There's this thing with Jenny Nicholson's review of the Disney World Star Wars Hotel experience, which is largely negative. Which makes sense, because it closed down. Disney is mad about the bad press, saying she didn't appreciate the actors, but she consistently praised them and also did have some nice things to say. Getting mad at her AFTER it closed, For likely the reasons she described is hilarious and very Streisand Effecty.
I've watched a fair chunk of that 4 hour review, and I can safely say that the one thing that she praises the most in her mostly negative review is the actors.
I don't understand "professional consumer" as an insult. Why would I not trust someone who has been to/tried out multiple events/products to make an informed decision on something I'm looking at purchasing...like okay??? And?
I think it has a heavy dose of sarcasm, like, "yeah, who ever gets paid for just being a consumer? Am I right? What's next a professional gamer? A professional player of ball games even? Preposterous!" Sort of thing.
Yeah the idea that we shouldn’t trust a “professional consumer” is bizarre to me, growing up with a dad who subscribed to Consumer Reports. Do people who think this is a bad thing really not engage with any professional criticism, like tv/movie or restaurant reviews?
Yeah, its INSANE to expect your customers to pay $700+ for a hope that maybe someday in the future you might be able to deliver on the promises you made in your tech announcement
Between this and Drew’s auction video, I’ve really enjoyed watching creators refer back to their past catalog to follow up and update (obviously for different objectives). It’s really nice to acknowledge that these videos don’t just exist in a vacuum and can talk with each other
@@Fletacarling I kind of agree based on the writing that it's probably not enforceable, but I'm sort of taking the easy way out of the program (waiting for my contract to end) :( just cause I'm not super wealthy
It’s always the mental gymnastics when it comes to tech bros bc they will see something (the cyber truck for example) fall apart right before their eyes and still say “this is good innovation”
Ah, Quibi... I still remember your video that helped me remember to cancel my sub to that before I got charged for a service I had forgotten I'd signed up for.
The thing about negative reviews still being useful is so real. I think the best example I have of this is that I have, on several occasions, purchased maxi skirts based on negative reviews from people who didn't like them because they were too long-- but those reviewers were all shorter than me, so that was useful information for me!
That whole "nascent project" thing was so aggravating, because it really implies that we have some duty to help other people make money, which I don't think we really do. I also think you absolutely *can* criticise something before it's been released, based on how it's being promoted, what's being promised, etc. If I work to the assumption that the Humane Pin does everything they said it would... it's still kind of a lame product idea. I don't have to wait to actually have one in my hand to say that. I can assume that its creators are putting their best foot forward and give them the benefit of a doubt... and still think their product sounds bad.
Exactly! Its not like he went to a brand new artist's show and dumped all over it, or review bombed a high school play. Its a tech company with millions of VC capital trying to jump on the AI bandwagon.
The answer is no, the companies themselves create the product and ship it when THEY feel it’s done, if THEY ship a shitty or incompletely product. there is nobody to blame in this scenario but themselves.
Reviews are protected because they protect consumers from scamming and other issues and it is NOT a coincidence they only cared when they realized a black person was getting views for a moderately bad review. The tech bro's are 100% angry at him because they have the brain worm mentality of "how dare someone they think as lesser than them be bothered by a bad unfinished product!!1!!" It's just gross on so many levels.
I’m so worried about the people buying into the “in the future!” product sells. Pipe dream is the reality there. A lot of these people don’t understand how businesses work either. There are too many groups spending reliance amounts of money on unstable companies.
As a dyslexic, i did not see the title was weird. But, capitalism was meant to work like this (to put it in one sentence). Consumers reviewing products is one of the few ways to keep capitalism in check. If I do a bad job, I lose my job. If you make a bad product, there are and should be consequences
Reporting on faulty product is not destruction. The companies are destroying themselves and blaming reporters. Which makes sense in this day and age of nobody taking responsibility for their actions or product output.
If a company can be so easily destroyed by one review then maybe the influencer isn’t the problem. Hell if a company can be destroyed by multiple creators’ review, then barring some crazy conspiracy, the reviewers definitely aren’t the problem.
They are often the most truthful. For books i usually read the summary, and a few positive and negative reviews. Sometimes, the negative reviews are the ones that convince me!
I think it was the head of Xbox recently who was criticizing how the economy currently works by saying they aren't allowed to have "non-prodictive years" because investors NEED to see new products or they pull out. None of them are concerned about long-term profits anymore, they need to see something NOW so the quality sucks. It also leads to scams like the rabbit thing. Coffeezilla's deep dive was wild
As someone working for a very large tech company, this is fucking SPOT ON. I've noticed a significant change in my company after the latest "merger" (it felt like a takeover, now it feels like sabotage). We are pushing out literal garbage internally & externally. With INSANELY unrealistic deadlines. This is what tech companies do now across the board. Theyre too focused on out-competing eachother to give a shit about quality. Incompetence & greed have taken over the industry. I keep telling myself that surely this isn't sustainable long term but theres no sign of slowing down... Everyone is pushing out junk that either doesn't work well and/or doesn't last very long. And yet people still buy it. Yes, I am asking myself if this companies beliefs & culture no longer align with my own. Ive been there for 7 years and put so much of myself into this career. But the job market is atrocious - its littered with scams, ghost jobs & data mining. Feels like the job market itself is just a predatory "business", and everyone is getting screwed. I feel stuck 😔 anyway, sorry for the rant.... surely I'm not the only one?
One of the funniest “takes” for me is that someone owes it to a literal corporation to be nice with their reviews, even if their individual experience is measurably horrible. Just make a better product or commit more to buyers/users having a good experience!
Re: the goodreads thing. There are people on Ao3 complaining about bookmark comments now. You know, the ones you have to seek out. This isn’t just about money, it’s also about ego.
I love the Drew/Danny mix up so much XD These two dudes got mixed up so much they went on tour together and wrote an entire song about it, but are we going to tell them apart? Nope! XD
It's a little harder with tech because of bugs and such, but also if your product literally does nothing it was advertised to do on release, you don't really deserve the benefit of the doubt that it'll get better later.
I just watched Marques' video yesterday ... I didn't even know this was going on in the background lol. I felt like he did a great job explaining what he likes/dislikes and why he thinks the product is bad. He explained everything so well, I genuinely liked the review a lot. Honest and harsh, but rightfully so...
Yes but those are the perils of using the influencer infrastructure as primary marketing strategy. And as well there is something to be said for constant engagement with, and updates on, products in the process of their development. Public opinion can doom some great concepts in infancy especially with tech. But there are also many many ways for fraud and scams to occur in this space. From both companies and influencers.
Can you destroy fossil fuel companies next? That’d be, like, friggin’ sick Edit: But for real though, if a company can be stunted by a UA-cam creator review, the next response should be assuming accountability and not keep to the lies in marketing
We want good and bad reviews so we can make informed choices as consumers. I love looking at the most recent reviews of a product to see if it still holds true to the top rated promoted reviews. This also feels like the smut vs no smut argument in the book community. Usually if someone ask, it is because they are curious and they can have informed consent and choice before jumping in. Yes there are the people on both extremes, and there is an appropriate time, place, and audience for smut. But it depends on the level of maturity of a reader and their comfort level with reading that stuff.
Right? It's telling on themselves. If a product does its job (just glitchy), then "it's still improving, trust me bro" might be interesting instead of a huge joke.
I remember when Linus Tech Tips got in trouble for poorly testing/reviewing a GPU cooling block prototype from Billet Labs, the prototype had specific instructions on what hardware to use with it and LTT ignored that. LTT dragged Billet Labs in their review, which harmed the small company reputation. The prototype was supposed to be returned to Billet Labs. Instead, it was auctioned off for charity. So yeah, creators can potentially destroy small companies.
The worst part of that was taking several thousand dollars of prototype from a company with no income and then selling it to a competitor, which is a totally nonstandard situation for a review. The negative coverage was also harmful, but at least in this situation GN had Billet Lab's back and corrected the narrative. Obviously not everyone has a trusted media powerhouse like GN to defend them, but most people don't have their only prototype sold to their competition by a reviewer either. It's also fair to say LTT's review wasn't in good faith. If a good faith review destroys your company, that was probably your fault for making a bad product.
Whenever there is something that I am interested in buying, I always cross reference 4 star reviews with 2 star reviews. I feel like people who care enough not to do 1 or 5, probably care enough to give a thoughtful review. There is value in negative reviews, whether companies or fanboys of companies agree.
Swell, your integrity and honesty is very important. People have ALWAYS grifted other people and it is often the GRIFTED that are the biggest defenders of the grifters. We are also living through a time in which people are continually trying to see what they can get away with. We can't let people do that. If it makes us unpopular with morons, who cares? I don't care what fools think of intelligent people. I care about what people with integrity think.
I was surprised you seemed to like the Our Place pan. I'd love an update on how it's held up. Even just a follow up to other things you've reviewed like those magnetic toiletry pods or the composter.
I like dunkey’s take on reviews where the taste of the reviewer is a relevant factor to take into account and that a trust is built between an author and audience that only comes from consistency.
Your Quibi videos are seriously some of my favorite videos on your channel. It was entertaining as hell and literally no one in my life knew about or cared about Quibi. Wattcon was super sketch and you helping shut it down was beneficial for everyone. Not all heroes wear capes, Swell.
It’s also applicable to all other fields-just because someone worked on an artwork for years or made a really strong effort doesn’t mean it’s going to be good. Effort does not equal success at all. And it sucks so bad but it’s real life unfortunately.
“Someone worked hard on this thing so therefore you can’t criticize it.” Drives me crazy too. I also have the same issue with “it’s free content so you can’t criticize it.” or “you can’t question a small business’s pricing”
The tweet of the dude missing his courte date for his divorce beause is cybertruk isnt updating, was a full circel moment, ebcause I asume the cybertruck was what made his wife leave him. As in the truck was the final nail in the coffin
I love negative reviews when the reviewer doesn’t like everything that I do like in a product or service. So yeah, I’ve been convinced that something is right for me after seeing negative reviews, since negative ones go into more details than positive reviews
You're right about negative reviews not necessarily being a bad thing. There is a difference between honesty and deliberately tearing something down. As long as a review is honest and informative, everyone is still free to form their own opinion. There are plenty of times I've seen a mostly negative review but it's not anything I personally have an issue with and I can still be satisfied with it. It just depends what you are looking for and what your expectations are.
You’re right about negative reviews still being informative. A good example is the new IPad Pro - the biggest negative is that it doesn’t run MacOS. Since I don’t run it and don’t plan to, that’s not an issue. What I’m looking for is issues with the display, Magic Keyboard, Pencil, how’s the weight for reading, how comfortable is it to draw on, etc. Basically, do I need to upgrade from my *current* non-MacOS-running iPad Pro.
If you are a "Destroyer of Companies" then you earned it. You ask the right questions, you explore topics, and you make sure to report back to explain to your reviewers with a clear conclusion. You worked hard enough. You're part of that small club who have perfected reviews, especially negative ones. Negative reviews can often tell me more information. You're excellent. If more people could be like you, we'd see a lot more integrity instead of click chasing. But such is UA-cam.
The problem with products being sold on future use cases is so prevalent in so many industries. There's a product called the Quad Cortex by Neural, it's a $1400 guitar modeller which is designed to replace your guitar's backline & effects with compact & portable floor unit. Neural also make guitar amp plugins for use on PC/Mac, charging about $100+ for each one. Now, the Quad Cortex was sold at launch with the promise that the plugins you purchase would be compatible with the Quad Cortex - in the future. That was 2021. it's 2024. No plugins are yet compatible with the Quad Cortex. To their credit, the next update brings compatibility - for two plugins, or about 10% of their range. Never buy anything on a promise.
In short, if a company's product is so bad that a single negative review makes it fail, it is not the reviewer's fault.
This. If you don’t want bad reviews, make a better product. Simple as that!
@@sahieit’s so simple!
yeah review dont destroy the company,it only accelerate whats already happening
How about the IGN review of Godhand? Amazing game but an awful review made it tank and caused the studio to close.
The truth is, most companies, regardless of how good their product is, are a few bad months away from bankruptcy. It doesn't matter if it's their own fault, recession, or an act of god. It is what it is.
If Drew Gooden can’t single-handedly take down Moonpod… the answer is no
This on for sure 😂 these company owners sound like children with the way they whine
He did stop me from buying a Moodpod
@@EviePontecorvosame here
Came here to say this
The saga came to a close but the hate against moonpod is still strong 💪
“Are creators destroy companies” gives me “does Bruno mars is gay?”
Omg yeeesss
It's also "will you wear wigs" adjacent
Like it's the second cousin
I just typed this and then scrolled down and saw this 🤣🤣 Great minds think alike
I dont know does he?!??
Fuck you stealing the best joke
"All your base are belong to us"
I am become creator, destroyer of companies 😢
That's metal AF
so glad someone else thought it
Destroy of companies!
Engagement bait
You are become creator?
Can you imagine Coke selling undrinkable beverages for years and telling consumers "Just keep drinking it and give us money. Eventually we'll create a drink that tastes good?"
thats almost ok coke!
we saw a similar situation with new coke in the past, they definitely heard and felt that and now you can't buy it.
@@weirdhousewivesclub I'm glad someone else is helping to continue the lore of new coke. We learned about it in economics for exactly this reason.
yeah its called mtn dew 💀
Company: *makes horrible product.*
Creator: This product is horrible
Company: *shocked Pikachu face*
They’re not mad that the product got a bad review, they’re mad that thousands of people know that it’s bad without buying the product first.
I would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for the measley creators.
It is really some of the most gaslight-y behavior out there. They sell something publicly to the public. The public makes reviews publicly. The company: "how dare?"
I’m a business owner. If people stopped doing business with me, it would affect me a lot. And yet, no one has a moral obligation to support my business. It is my job as a business owner to create products and services other people want. Business is inherently risky, and business owners sign up for this risk.
I bet if people came to you with a legitimate complaint, you would hear them out and try to fix the problem.
That is what a good business person or designer/creator does. Listens to criticism and makes it right or improves upon the product.
I hope your business sees much success.
With the rise of social media, people get all upset if anyone criticizes their product or service and lashes out. If Henry Ford or Steve Jobs gave up after hearing criticism, life would be much different. (Yes they were both terrible people but creative inventors who didn't quit).
Yes there are a few bad players, but mostly it's just business and isn't personal.
I'd rather get complaints over no responses. At least with complaints, you know they tried it and want to help make it better.
You don't seem like the type of business owner to release a completely unfinished product and pikachu face when people start pointing out the obvious problems. I hope you have a really nice month and can afford some time off with the fam soon.
y'know, it's almost like that's the reason bosses get the big bucks - like, they came up with the financial capital to start the thing, so it's almost as if they might have a right to get a large return on their investment
i'm probably way off base here - but i wonder if anyone has come up with that argument before and whether there's a name for that kind of system 🤔
Exactly, you're never entitled to success automatically. It comes from years of hard work and a good idea. Plus smart people around you who can make things happen in logistics, sales, marketing, etc. I think some businesses feel like if they put out any trendy whatever people flock because of the internet or going viral.
@@ChristyOFaghan Nope. You are the first.
WattPad's downfall after being acquired by WebToon is depressing because so many Webtoon creators are coming out with the same stories: predatory contracts, NDAs, having no control over their IPs. It seems like a rotten company overall
I was about to mention this too! After seeing the exposé about webtoon originals contracts on Reddit, Wattpad's fall from grace makes way more sense now. Hell, I think both platforms got the horrible coin system around the same time.
Now I'm glad I always thought Webtoon was icky whenever I saw YT ads for it 🤮
South Korean companies and predatory contracts, a match made in hell. The same happens with V&U, a SK vtuber agency - I recently watched a video talking about the ridiculous resignation clauses a former talent faced.
@@Nadia1989I mean look at how they treat K-pop idols. It’s ridiculous.
And I thought the ads were bad enough
Reminds me of what’s going on with fans of the Star Wars hotel on Jenny Nickleson’s video going after her for being too harsh on it… the hotel is already closed!!! If her critiques are so invalid and incorrect why is it closed? It’s almost like it was an overall bad experience not worth what you had to pay, just like she experienced lol. I appreciate mediocre and bad reviews of things so we can get a full honest look of the experience. I don’t trust influencers who only have 100% positive things to say because I know they’re getting paid to say it
I finally watched it in all of its entirety, and think Jenny has valid criticisms about everything. She got seated behind a pole and the app used to choose your story didn’t work for her among other things, and to think she paid $6000 for those glitches and other fuckery when it was supposed to be a luxury one of kind experience. And then there’s Jenny needing to blast Disney on her twitter in order to get a refund for the memory maker when other people in the same boat couldn’t get Disney to respond or give them a refund. The star wars hotel deserved to fail. Too niche and too expensive for most people. It does makes me happy inside whenever something Disney does turns out to be an epic failure.
@@jenniferkushner3666 same the schadenfreude is real 😂
haha, are people really upset? shes the one who spent $6000 to be seated behind a pole for a larp experience where participation had the staff acting coldly- at a now closed hotel. she has every right to complain for such a waste of money! anyone defending that garbage hotel should rethink their life and financial choices..
haha, are people really upset? shes the one who spent $6000 to be seated behind a pole for a larp experience where participation had the staff acting coldly- at a now closed hotel. she has every right to complain for such a waste of money! anyone defending that garbage hotel should rethink their life and financial choices..
the thing about her review also is... It's the first "influencer" review I've seen of the galactic star cruiser where they deeply engage with core issues in the design... one holo sabacc table leading to a line, some of the bridge crew activities being more boring than other ones, and the most striking thing, the large amount of people in the "Climate simulator" I have a friend who went and he said that little tiny outdoor space was always packed with older teens and adults and became the unofficial "cringe free" zone during his "Cruise"
The fact that a very prominent black man is getting the heat for, *checks my notes*, Ah yes, BEING HONEST. is so telling coming from the tech world
That was my first thought too!
Unfortunately, you're right
I don't think this angle is relevant, at least yet. He's just the biggest reviewer.
@realtalk6195 it's extremely relevant. Hate when non black folks undermine racism just cause they don't want to admit it.
Yep. And he's not just black, he's also good looking and obviously intelligent. He's an existential threat to these people.
A better question to ask is "Why do companies feel entitled to success?" Especially tech companies, which are expensive af. If your product sucks, maybe your company shouldn't succeed. Free market blah blah blah.
I find it pretty amusing how a lot of people in the “ethics in journalism” crowd get all pissy when someone actually has proper ethical standards, and posts an honest review they don’t agree with. Maybe “ethics” was never the issue. 🤔
I am sad to report that based on current evidence "ethics in journalism" is dead.
Lol well, a decent number of reviewers and reporters aren't honest, so it is a problem. But in this instance, he's just giving his honest opinion, and it just happened to be negative. That's just him doing his job as a reviewer. People crying about it need to get over it and let him do his job.
FACTS!
Hmmmmmm 🤔
Based on more recent Apple reviews I don't really think he's got ethical standards either, but he's entitled to have an opinion of course.
I totally agree that negative reviews are not always a bad thing. As a homebody who prefers to buy stuff online I rely heavily on reviews I see online before buy a product, especially ones that cost quite a lot of money. Seeing ONLY positive reviews is actually more of a red flag to me as a consumer than having a good balance of positive and negative reviews. If anything, knowing the negative aspects of the product helps adjust my expectations of it to a more realistic one so I rarely get disappointed when I get it in the mail
Same here! I'm always skeptical of product reviews that are 100% positive, especially the ones that don't even leave a review, just a 5/5 or 10/10 star rating with nothing written or words like "great product" or "works great". Glowing reviews can be manufactured and bought, so a product with a well balanced amount of positive and negative reviews is always welcome when online shopping for me.
Seriously! It was one of the first things my parents taught me to look out for to be more aware online. I really don’t understand how people don’t think that’s a red flag. And honestly I find people who feel like an honest bad review is mean and should just not be shared is a red flag for them. And negative reviews can be really helpful! If a review is saying clothes run small so I’d get a larger size, or how you can’t use a kitchen utensil on a nonstick surface which is all I have that’s super helpful!
Honestly same, I often times avoid 5 star reviewed places because it tells me that they only bring in a specific type of customer that doesn’t have variations of tastes.
I ALSO heavily shop online rather than go outside LOL and the best tip I ever learned wrt: reviews was to look at the 3 star reviews. They will usually be the nuanced ones with pros and cons to consider, rather than just the two extremes of consumer experience in the 5 star and 1 star reviews (and to a certain extent, 4 and 2). I may disagree with a 3 star reviewer's conclusions or see different things as positives/negatives than they do, but it gives me the most information to decide for myself. Plus they're extremely unlikely to be fake because who would bother to fake reviews that aren't either 5 or 1 stars?
Also negative reviews are really useful. I definitely turn to them a lot more than the positive because they let me know the flaws and then I can decide which product I want and what product is worth its flaws.
if creators can destroy an entire company than that company was a speculative bubble to begin with
thiss for sure
I remember when Linus Tech Tips got in trouble for poorly testing/reviewing a GPU cooling block prototype from Billet Labs, the prototype had specific instructions on what hardware to use with it and LTT ignored that. LTT dragged Billet Labs in their review, which harmed the small company reputation. The prototype was supposed to be returned to Billet Labs. Instead, it was auctioned off for charity. So yeah, creators can potentially destroy small companies.
@@biteofdogBillet labs is still operating though. I get what you’re trying to say but clearly you and other people were made aware of this and the company was able to rectify the situation. With how fast you can go viral on the internet nowadays, small companies can clap back and be heard when they are done dirty imo
yeah, but don't you know the ~*~entrepreneurs~*~ who started the company have to be allowed to cash in on that bubble first, for being so brave and entrepreneurial???
honestly i'm kind of obsessed with vassallo tweeting 'do no harm' at a tech reviewer and can only assume he does it in other areas of life. like the barista gives him the wrong coffee and he stares at them gravely while saying 'to protect and serve'. what an overly serious prick
I wasn't aware reviewers take the hippocratic oath 😂
My guy said with great followers comes great responsibility and then we got all this finger diarrhea of famous quotes he knows XD
We find these truths to be self-evident, that all vapourware tech products are created equal.
@@cyanthrope😂😂
Swell: gets Danny and Drew's names mixed up
Me: *takes out lighter and starts to sway it in the air as I begin sing* I am Drew, and I am Danny, and we are not the same person
There is nothing more Drew or Danny, then getting them confused....
There's this thing with Jenny Nicholson's review of the Disney World Star Wars Hotel experience, which is largely negative. Which makes sense, because it closed down. Disney is mad about the bad press, saying she didn't appreciate the actors, but she consistently praised them and also did have some nice things to say. Getting mad at her AFTER it closed, For likely the reasons she described is hilarious and very Streisand Effecty.
they were clearly just too weak to make it though even half of the video because she has like, a whole section devoted to how great the actors were
@@kkuudandere It is 4 hours long, lol. I'm gonna be watching this review for days. (But I'm 100% gonna be watching it)
I've watched a fair chunk of that 4 hour review, and I can safely say that the one thing that she praises the most in her mostly negative review is the actors.
"do creators destroy companies?" ... NO DO! ONLY ARE!
@UTTP-142wow bots got edgy? get your edgy wanna-be Filthy Frank ass outta here ya orphan
I don't understand "professional consumer" as an insult. Why would I not trust someone who has been to/tried out multiple events/products to make an informed decision on something I'm looking at purchasing...like okay??? And?
If anything she's more of a guinea pig, or a proxy for all of us to vicariously experience things we otherwise couldn't. Very appreciated.
Trying to insult her with her literal job description. 😂
I think it has a heavy dose of sarcasm, like, "yeah, who ever gets paid for just being a consumer? Am I right? What's next a professional gamer? A professional player of ball games even? Preposterous!" Sort of thing.
Yeah the idea that we shouldn’t trust a “professional consumer” is bizarre to me, growing up with a dad who subscribed to Consumer Reports. Do people who think this is a bad thing really not engage with any professional criticism, like tv/movie or restaurant reviews?
Right? It’s a legitimate job. There are entire companies dedicated to product testing.
"If it can be destroyed by the truth, it deserves to be destroyed by the truth."
- Carl Sagan
This!
Yeah, its INSANE to expect your customers to pay $700+ for a hope that maybe someday in the future you might be able to deliver on the promises you made in your tech announcement
Not to mention there's no incentive for them to fix their broken product after we already gave them our money.
@@arowace498Or even give refunds
swell gives major absol vibes
shows up before catastrophe to warn others, but gets mistaken for the cause
That’s so true though
OH MY GOD YOU'RE SO RIGHT
Omg this is so accurate! I wish I was an artist so I could draw Swell as a Pokémon trainer with an Absol!
"Now I'm just poking a bear, and I'd still choose the bear."
Never change.
The lil smirk she had while she did it was PERFECT
I love the reference
I don’t know what you mean, Quibi is thriving in my heart
Saying “do no harm” is pretty rich when the resources you use to make it probably come from the Congo
This, peeple need to know the current gen0cide that's on going
I like the title. Pls don’t change it
with the smug Swell face in the thumbnail sends me
Hard agree
I 4th this
Yes, ing.
Never change it swell
My dyslexia was like I got you champ 😂
"Now I'm just poking the bear and I'd still choose the bear" made me burst out loud while watching this on a crowded bus
Between this and Drew’s auction video, I’ve really enjoyed watching creators refer back to their past catalog to follow up and update (obviously for different objectives). It’s really nice to acknowledge that these videos don’t just exist in a vacuum and can talk with each other
Thanks for destroying companies so we don't have to, Swell!
*destroy companies we don't use "ing" in this household
I was allegedly one of the writers
If it’s financially worth it get a lawyer to look at it - most NDAs are unenforceable
@@Fletacarling I kind of agree based on the writing that it's probably not enforceable, but I'm sort of taking the easy way out of the program (waiting for my contract to end) :( just cause I'm not super wealthy
It’s always the mental gymnastics when it comes to tech bros bc they will see something (the cyber truck for example) fall apart right before their eyes and still say “this is good innovation”
Tech companies want customers that will say “I will gladly pay you today for a hamburger on Tuesday”. They haven’t watched Popeyes recently enough
Ah, Quibi... I still remember your video that helped me remember to cancel my sub to that before I got charged for a service I had forgotten I'd signed up for.
There were people claiming she killed Quibi... It was strange
@@jsc315 the only thing that killed Quibi was a poorly considered business model and more lackluster content than good content.
Massive "All Your Base Are Belong To Us" vibes with the title, love it.
Are creators destroy companies?
Edit: No shade to swell she’s one of my favorite creators and I’m also dyslexic so I feel this😭
all your base are belong to us???
How is babby formed?
Are algorithms destroy sentences
Does Bruno Mars is gay??
Am I pregananant?
The thing about negative reviews still being useful is so real. I think the best example I have of this is that I have, on several occasions, purchased maxi skirts based on negative reviews from people who didn't like them because they were too long-- but those reviewers were all shorter than me, so that was useful information for me!
That whole "nascent project" thing was so aggravating, because it really implies that we have some duty to help other people make money, which I don't think we really do. I also think you absolutely *can* criticise something before it's been released, based on how it's being promoted, what's being promised, etc. If I work to the assumption that the Humane Pin does everything they said it would... it's still kind of a lame product idea. I don't have to wait to actually have one in my hand to say that. I can assume that its creators are putting their best foot forward and give them the benefit of a doubt... and still think their product sounds bad.
Exactly! Its not like he went to a brand new artist's show and dumped all over it, or review bombed a high school play. Its a tech company with millions of VC capital trying to jump on the AI bandwagon.
The answer is no, the companies themselves create the product and ship it when THEY feel it’s done, if THEY ship a shitty or incompletely product. there is nobody to blame in this scenario but themselves.
Tech twitter thinks influencers need to be held more accountable than the politicians they shill for.
After all the industries millennials killed, someone had to come in and clean up the stragglers. Creators just doing the Lord's work.
For real. Creators are just doing the dirty work.
Reviews are protected because they protect consumers from scamming and other issues and it is NOT a coincidence they only cared when they realized a black person was getting views for a moderately bad review. The tech bro's are 100% angry at him because they have the brain worm mentality of "how dare someone they think as lesser than them be bothered by a bad unfinished product!!1!!" It's just gross on so many levels.
The typo is so great 😂 I want it to stay
I’m so worried about the people buying into the “in the future!” product sells. Pipe dream is the reality there. A lot of these people don’t understand how businesses work either. There are too many groups spending reliance amounts of money on unstable companies.
Thank you for video, I am often been wonder are creators destroy companies
As a dyslexic, i did not see the title was weird. But, capitalism was meant to work like this (to put it in one sentence). Consumers reviewing products is one of the few ways to keep capitalism in check.
If I do a bad job, I lose my job. If you make a bad product, there are and should be consequences
Reporting on faulty product is not destruction. The companies are destroying themselves and blaming reporters.
Which makes sense in this day and age of nobody taking responsibility for their actions or product output.
At the end of the day, there is one question left to answer: are creators destroy companies? Let's find out!
If a company can be so easily destroyed by one review then maybe the influencer isn’t the problem. Hell if a company can be destroyed by multiple creators’ review, then barring some crazy conspiracy, the reviewers definitely aren’t the problem.
I always felt like reviewers are watching our backs as normal working class people who can't spend $500 in an item that will not work.
Oh yeah i definitely look at negative steam reviews for games i do intend to buy just to make sure there arent personal dealbreaker issues.
They are often the most truthful. For books i usually read the summary, and a few positive and negative reviews. Sometimes, the negative reviews are the ones that convince me!
Title is driving engagement. Big brain stuff right here.
I think it was the head of Xbox recently who was criticizing how the economy currently works by saying they aren't allowed to have "non-prodictive years" because investors NEED to see new products or they pull out. None of them are concerned about long-term profits anymore, they need to see something NOW so the quality sucks. It also leads to scams like the rabbit thing. Coffeezilla's deep dive was wild
As someone working for a very large tech company, this is fucking SPOT ON.
I've noticed a significant change in my company after the latest "merger" (it felt like a takeover, now it feels like sabotage).
We are pushing out literal garbage internally & externally. With INSANELY unrealistic deadlines.
This is what tech companies do now across the board. Theyre too focused on out-competing eachother to give a shit about quality. Incompetence & greed have taken over the industry. I keep telling myself that surely this isn't sustainable long term but theres no sign of slowing down... Everyone is pushing out junk that either doesn't work well and/or doesn't last very long. And yet people still buy it.
Yes, I am asking myself if this companies beliefs & culture no longer align with my own. Ive been there for 7 years and put so much of myself into this career. But the job market is atrocious - its littered with scams, ghost jobs & data mining. Feels like the job market itself is just a predatory "business", and everyone is getting screwed. I feel stuck 😔 anyway, sorry for the rant.... surely I'm not the only one?
One of the funniest “takes” for me is that someone owes it to a literal corporation to be nice with their reviews, even if their individual experience is measurably horrible. Just make a better product or commit more to buyers/users having a good experience!
“all your base are belong to us”type beat. tbh i fw it
Re: the goodreads thing. There are people on Ao3 complaining about bookmark comments now. You know, the ones you have to seek out.
This isn’t just about money, it’s also about ego.
"I'm literally poking the bear... and I'd still choose the bear."
Underrated. Iconic. Instant classic.
I love the Drew/Danny mix up so much XD These two dudes got mixed up so much they went on tour together and wrote an entire song about it, but are we going to tell them apart? Nope! XD
I didn’t even notice the title of the video until I read the comments.
If one or two good-faith rewiews from moderate-to-large youtubers can sink a product/company then it clearly wasn't a very strong product/company
It's a little harder with tech because of bugs and such, but also if your product literally does nothing it was advertised to do on release, you don't really deserve the benefit of the doubt that it'll get better later.
So true - if your product is bad its not the reviewer's fault
exactly, i cant believe those guys tweeted it was "unethical" god rich people are deluded "youre not letting rich people scam you so you're bad"
keep the title and boost that engagement for the algorithm queen
They’re called “influencers,” for a reason. They influence. They don’t dictate market forces on their own.
I just watched Marques' video yesterday ... I didn't even know this was going on in the background lol.
I felt like he did a great job explaining what he likes/dislikes and why he thinks the product is bad. He explained everything so well, I genuinely liked the review a lot. Honest and harsh, but rightfully so...
Maybe if companies want good reviews, they should make good products?
Yes but those are the perils of using the influencer infrastructure as primary marketing strategy. And as well there is something to be said for constant engagement with, and updates on, products in the process of their development. Public opinion can doom some great concepts in infancy especially with tech. But there are also many many ways for fraud and scams to occur in this space. From both companies and influencers.
Can you destroy fossil fuel companies next?
That’d be, like, friggin’ sick
Edit: But for real though, if a company can be stunted by a UA-cam creator review, the next response should be assuming accountability and not keep to the lies in marketing
We want good and bad reviews so we can make informed choices as consumers. I love looking at the most recent reviews of a product to see if it still holds true to the top rated promoted reviews.
This also feels like the smut vs no smut argument in the book community.
Usually if someone ask, it is because they are curious and they can have informed consent and choice before jumping in. Yes there are the people on both extremes, and there is an appropriate time, place, and audience for smut. But it depends on the level of maturity of a reader and their comfort level with reading that stuff.
It's like companies think customers won't notice that they've bought a crap product, if no one tells them it's crap.
ARE CREATORS???
No
DESTROY COMPANIES????
are they?
Yes
Feels like Swell was undecided on "are creators destroying companies" and "do creators destroy companies" and decided to have a bit of both
They fucking love to say "Flagship."
These companies and tech bros are just afriad of informed consumers It's such a werid position for people to take.
Right? It's telling on themselves. If a product does its job (just glitchy), then "it's still improving, trust me bro" might be interesting instead of a huge joke.
@@OverAnalystThey really think we're too stupid to know the difference between a glitchy work in progress and a lazy mess
Creators are become death, destroyer of companies
to me the "For now" was an indication that we'll keep seeing these products over and over, people will fund any tech trend
I remember when Linus Tech Tips got in trouble for poorly testing/reviewing a GPU cooling block prototype from Billet Labs, the prototype had specific instructions on what hardware to use with it and LTT ignored that. LTT dragged Billet Labs in their review, which harmed the small company reputation. The prototype was supposed to be returned to Billet Labs. Instead, it was auctioned off for charity. So yeah, creators can potentially destroy small companies.
The worst part of that was taking several thousand dollars of prototype from a company with no income and then selling it to a competitor, which is a totally nonstandard situation for a review. The negative coverage was also harmful, but at least in this situation GN had Billet Lab's back and corrected the narrative. Obviously not everyone has a trusted media powerhouse like GN to defend them, but most people don't have their only prototype sold to their competition by a reviewer either.
It's also fair to say LTT's review wasn't in good faith. If a good faith review destroys your company, that was probably your fault for making a bad product.
Whenever there is something that I am interested in buying, I always cross reference 4 star reviews with 2 star reviews. I feel like people who care enough not to do 1 or 5, probably care enough to give a thoughtful review. There is value in negative reviews, whether companies or fanboys of companies agree.
“Now I’m just poking a bear, and I would still choose the bear.” Godamn that’s was such a smooth burn!
Swell, your integrity and honesty is very important. People have ALWAYS grifted other people and it is often the GRIFTED that are the biggest defenders of the grifters. We are also living through a time in which people are continually trying to see what they can get away with. We can't let people do that. If it makes us unpopular with morons, who cares? I don't care what fools think of intelligent people. I care about what people with integrity think.
R.I.P. “are creators destroy companies?”
5/28/24-5/28/24
Another great video! The part talking about companies trying to sell you what the product MIGHT do in the future made my gamer heart skip a beat.
The title is giving "I am become death" and I feel like it's weirdly appropriate 😂
Not me screaming “THATS THE HIPPOCRATIC OATH! HES NOT UNDER OATH!” at my screen
I was surprised you seemed to like the Our Place pan. I'd love an update on how it's held up. Even just a follow up to other things you've reviewed like those magnetic toiletry pods or the composter.
17:11 - I try not to sign up for potential, not in purchases, not in relationships, not ever. Potential is just a promise unfulfilled.
Amanda confusing Danny and Drew is something so real.
I like dunkey’s take on reviews where the taste of the reviewer is a relevant factor to take into account and that a trust is built between an author and audience that only comes from consistency.
“Your afraid of women” “I’d still choose the bear” oh you just hurt so many little egos with that one 😂❤
This title is GOLD. I love it so much 😂 Please Amanda - do not change it!
The drew and danny mistake was so funny hahaha
Your Quibi videos are seriously some of my favorite videos on your channel. It was entertaining as hell and literally no one in my life knew about or cared about Quibi.
Wattcon was super sketch and you helping shut it down was beneficial for everyone. Not all heroes wear capes, Swell.
It’s also applicable to all other fields-just because someone worked on an artwork for years or made a really strong effort doesn’t mean it’s going to be good. Effort does not equal success at all. And it sucks so bad but it’s real life unfortunately.
“Someone worked hard on this thing so therefore you can’t criticize it.” Drives me crazy too. I also have the same issue with “it’s free content so you can’t criticize it.” or “you can’t question a small business’s pricing”
The tweet of the dude missing his courte date for his divorce beause is cybertruk isnt updating, was a full circel moment, ebcause I asume the cybertruck was what made his wife leave him. As in the truck was the final nail in the coffin
I love negative reviews when the reviewer doesn’t like everything that I do like in a product or service. So yeah, I’ve been convinced that something is right for me after seeing negative reviews, since negative ones go into more details than positive reviews
Saying a bad review killed your business is the corporate equivalent of calling someone a tattletale 🙄
You're right about negative reviews not necessarily being a bad thing. There is a difference between honesty and deliberately tearing something down. As long as a review is honest and informative, everyone is still free to form their own opinion. There are plenty of times I've seen a mostly negative review but it's not anything I personally have an issue with and I can still be satisfied with it. It just depends what you are looking for and what your expectations are.
RIP to the OG title
You’re right about negative reviews still being informative. A good example is the new IPad Pro - the biggest negative is that it doesn’t run MacOS. Since I don’t run it and don’t plan to, that’s not an issue. What I’m looking for is issues with the display, Magic Keyboard, Pencil, how’s the weight for reading, how comfortable is it to draw on, etc. Basically, do I need to upgrade from my *current* non-MacOS-running iPad Pro.
I wish you kept the first title, it was brilliant.
If you are a "Destroyer of Companies" then you earned it. You ask the right questions, you explore topics, and you make sure to report back to explain to your reviewers with a clear conclusion. You worked hard enough. You're part of that small club who have perfected reviews, especially negative ones. Negative reviews can often tell me more information. You're excellent. If more people could be like you, we'd see a lot more integrity instead of click chasing.
But such is UA-cam.
The problem with products being sold on future use cases is so prevalent in so many industries. There's a product called the Quad Cortex by Neural, it's a $1400 guitar modeller which is designed to replace your guitar's backline & effects with compact & portable floor unit. Neural also make guitar amp plugins for use on PC/Mac, charging about $100+ for each one. Now, the Quad Cortex was sold at launch with the promise that the plugins you purchase would be compatible with the Quad Cortex - in the future. That was 2021. it's 2024. No plugins are yet compatible with the Quad Cortex. To their credit, the next update brings compatibility - for two plugins, or about 10% of their range.
Never buy anything on a promise.
Remember Alienware's upgradable laptops? Me neither, because they didn't ever release the promised upgrades and got sued over it.
I love your product reviews. They always seem on the up and up and not just advertising a product.