Artist: Here’s a picture Rose Quartz I drew, what do you think? Steffens universe fandom seeing that she’s skinnier: She can’t do that, shoot her, or something!
Green Moon what ??? They are still there characters. They retain there mental state inside the fusion. That’s like saying if I put a slice of turkey in between some bread it isn’t turkey anymore.
"Say you're sorry or you and your friend will die of starvation" "No" "Okay cool" (That's how it actually went down) Nah, man don't forget the worst one: "Stop acting like a child!" "No u" "I AM DEFEATED"
The gems: “ok so we’re in home world we gotta play it cool and play by their rules to guarantee our safety and our audience with White Diamond.” Steven: “ok buuuuuut this dance is boring and lame and I don’t care that I’m in the throne room of the most ruthless empire in the galaxy, dance with me Connie.” The gems: “Behold the powers of Love and friendship-“ **get poofed**
They also tried to claim that Peridot was asexual because she wouldn't fuse; whilst also saying that fusion isn't sex and is a relationship (platonic, abusive, mutual hate, etc.) Its gross and pathetic.
Yeah. I was really disappointed when they said that. Being asexual doesn’t mean you’re incapable of love or a close relationship, I don’t know what they were going for. If there is one thing they need to be clear about- it’s fusion. They can’t seem to make up their minds whether its sex or a relationship
@@patiencewallace8453 A lot of fans were upset for the after thought of a tweet my friend! It felt more like the storyboard artist just wanted to shove in a last minute headcanon and piss off shippers.
Saying "It'S a KiDs ShOw" as an excuse when people point out the Diamonds are Nazis, but then claiming "It'S sO mAtUrE!" when they attempt (very badly) to show mental health issues, is just plain hypocritical.
This reminds me of recently, one of the storyboard artists "confirmed" in a tweet (outside of the show) that Peridot was supposed to be ace/aro this whole time because she never fused. So people within the fandom say that Peridot is "asexual because she didn't fuse." So when people say, "Does that mean Steven had sex with his dad?" They freak out and start to explain how it isn't actually sex? Its ridiculous.
@@kazmakazii I just hate how the creators think "good storytelling" is explaining something one way in the show, and then it not blowing over well and then changing it outside of it. They are always like "well no you just misinterpreted"
@@lupinsredjacket3191 I don't get that either. Its kind of like how the Diamonds were written as genocidal and then recently ian jq tweeted that they really weren't all along. To think, I actually liked this show at one point.
@@Jdudec367 Plot armor is mostly when some deus ex machina happens and saves him, basically when he gets some new ability at the last second or someone appears and saves him. This is done so often that with a simple conbo of shield ball + heal spit, he's basically invincible. Freedom of consequences is basically a side effect of the above, if someone dies, he can rez them (Lars). If he's about get hit with a deadly attack, he can shield it (Most fights, especially when he's alone). If a gem gets poofed, he can fuse with them and rez them (When he falls down the hole in the finale). If he breaks something important, the plot bends to his will and makes the mistake no longer matter (When he forgot a specific talisman that was needed to save a temple, it was revealed to just be a test). Basically, if he makes a mistake that has bad consequences, he can either undo, nullify it, or it didn't matter anyway.
While I do think that incorporating adult themes into children's cartoons isn't bad in itself (Avatar the Last Airbender handled things like genocide, mental illness, and physical abuse phenomenally), the writers of Steven Universe were just too obsessed with their own agendas and just not competent enough writers to pull things like that off.
True, I don't think that saying kids shows shouldn't be mature or complex just cause kids are stupid and aren't gonna get it. Cartoon networks demographic is actually pretty broad. Sure kids that are like 6 aren't gonna get it and they might just watch for bright colors and comedy. But the child fandom of SU actually consists of kids 9-12. And adults and teens watch the show too. Sure the writers could handle the themes better but it's kinda shity to just say that the show is for babies and toddlers and putting mature themes and lessons into a show at all is brainwashing kids. My point is that each age group and individual is gonna get something different they enjoy out of it and gatekeeping it isn't gonna help anyone. Kids might come back to watch it when their older and early like the mature emotional stuff. I'm doing that for adventure time right now since I was like 5 when it aired.
I like their normalization of lesbian / gay. "Cartoons shouldn't have adult themes" is pure insanity. When i was a kid in the 70s/80s watching Starblazers, it was about planet-destroying, nuclear genocide. Some people are, "cartoons shouldn't be sexualized". Well, Starblazers again, the main character clearly had a love relationship (hetero, but still) with the main chick in it. I mean, a kid can watch their parents hug and kiss a million times a day anyway. Some of the "adult" themes hit in Steven Universe usually end up with the characters raging, crying and clearly having PAIN... which is an accurate depiction and not a bad message. AND... and... the showrunners did it within their OWN franchise, not by overtaking a one that existed already. (Marvel, DC, Disney itself... destroying franchise after franchise with character-mutating politics...)
JinzoCrash Well, the normalization of homosexual relationships is something that isn't accepted by everyone, for hundreds of different reasons. The question that remains is "Should cartoons be used as a political tool, even if indirectly?"
@@perpetualsystems If you see gay relationships as nothing but 'political', you aren't mature enough to be analysing writing, sorry. It's just a relationship, like any straight relationship in a cartoon, nothing political about it. And if some people get offended by the normalisation of homosexual relationship, well that's just tough shit, sometimes you have to just grow up and accept the real world, and that's not aimed at you, it's aimed at the people who don't like the normalisation of homosexual relationships.
Steven is a 20/10 Gary-Stu. Is A Special Hybrid: +1 point He Can Do No Wrong: +3 points When He DOES Do Something Wrong, He Solves The Issue Immediately: +3 points With Little To No Repercussions, Might I Add: +2 points Every Character Loves Him: +5 Blatant Plot Armor: +6 points
hybrid? doesn't make him a gary stu can do no wrong LOL no just no like?oh yeah...turning himself into aquamarine that solved everything....no wait...it didn't like? "ur he broke greg's fan" yeah and pearl chewed him out for it" "he killed jaspe-" a mentally ill person accidentally took there powers to far really..he was honestly going crazy...they were gonna talk with him more about it but they had to do it well you think everyone loves him? bluebird doesn't Jasper didn't a lot of characters don't took lars some time to like him to...he wasn't just liked by all from the start took time for more people to even like him "plot armor" ok give me examples and not just actual armor he should have cause of story reasons (like his shield and bubble)
@@radioheadfan201 eh...you mean future steven or original? either way that can be said about a lot of popular protagonst I could argue. He still isn't a mary sue/gary stu.
I liked Steven universe. But the only thing I really hated was how "easy" they solved the major problems. Like c'mon, you're telling me just TALKING to white diamond, the most powerful being in the universe, would make her change? Like in her perspective some pleb little dude is telling her to change when she could've been like fought or crushed or sum. And also when Steven becomes a monster. Everything in that felt rushed. They could've made Steven evil and made another series trying to stop monster Steven or something. IDK, the endings felt rushed
pingus 19 ok, so imagine your daughter dies. And then 14 years later you discover she’s actually alive. And you try desperately to set everything back to how it was before the tragedy, because you see your role as keeping up appearances and holding everything together, and making everything right. So you hold up this incredibly fragile facade that everything is ok, and can just go back to the way it was before. That’s white diamond’s perspective. It isn’t just Steven making a one off joke that shatters her composure, it’s years of grief hidden behind a mask. The thing that turns blue and yellow, (and white too to some extent tho this isn’t really shown until future) is being woken up to the fact that it was THEIR actions and abuse that pushed pink away and caused them to lose her, and now they were doing it again. For white, the final straw is realizing that she’s wrong, that she isn’t making everything better, that pink is really gone, when she pulls out Steven’s gem. THAT’S what broke her. At that point she was just groveling and spiraling from this realization, she was going to lose her composure no matter what, the sick burn on steven’s part was just a nice touch that really pushed her over the edge. Was the ending rushed? Yes, absolutely. But that was because of limitations put on the crewniverse. Rebecca had to fight HARD just to get a handful more episodes to finish off the season, and at the time they didn’t think the show would be continuing at all. They did what they could within the limitations they had, and ultimately I think the finale said everything it needed to say.
I think the ending was pretty rushed but the future one it was good a build up for the last 2 episodes i mean they could barely make the last season but you expect them to make one for defeating steven
Zig Zoinks If he really was still living in a van as a millionaire, don’t you think that he simply just enjoys it or has become accustomed to it so much he never really minded it.
You mean the room made for him? In his house? Just because he focuses more on helping his friends than himself doesn’t mean he should give up his room to his millionaire father lmao
I am still trying to wrap my head around why anyone would make a show about a hyper intelligent war faring alien species that are highly implied to have wiped out every other sentient species in the galaxy and give them more emotional baggage than a pack of emo teens in the early 2000s at a My chemical romance concert.
Blobbert Mcblob Yeah. Kind of defeats the purpose of having an alien species that was not familiar to the human kind. Suddenly, now they are more emotional than your average person.
I also really like how after that, people try to defend the show by saying it’s a children movie. It’s like making a children’s movie out of journeys of SS deserter in Russia... Wait, that’s what they did.
@@Probablylani Gems are regarded as if they are extremely computer based. They function almost similar to AI, honestly. Introducing humanity to AI is what this series is most akin to. To an extent, it's like a computer getting to replicate emotion reasonably and kind of dialing it up a bit too much. And it doesn't help that they must emulate Steven who is ESPECIALLY emotional.
I mean it could work? Surely you'd be emotionally fucked in the head living with a race of loveless murderous rock people..problem with SU its a melodrama. It's not intended to be deep.
I'm willing to bet good money that Steven would forgive Hitler if he told him that he was rejected from art school and has been a sad man with a silly mustache since
A community should never try to live something that bad down. Recognize it. Recognize the toxicity of the fan base, and purge it. Instead they ignored it and defended the toxicity with worse toxicity. Just to clarify this, I despise the show for the writing and poor production, not the fan base. The fan base I despise the radical parts.
All Fandoms are human cancer, for example the rick and morty crowd can never live down szechwan gate, and southwark fans literally adopted “beat a ginger day” literally a day to commit assault against a certain group of people just for existing, cause the south park creators are self admitted bigots towards red headed people. and no that’s no joke, trey parker literally admitted he hates gingers and that he specifically married his asian wife cause asians don’t carry the ginger gene, a joke they included in the episode as well so yeah...
@@authorhazel1554 Um well it’s pretty easy to find since i named the incidents but sure i’ll do your due diligence for you Rick and Morty controversy: 1.) Szechuan sauce incident: www.polygon.com/2017/10/9/16447460/rick-and-morty-szechuan-sauce-mcdonalds-fans-anger 2.) 9/11 joke incident: www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/furious-rick-morty-fans-threaten-22023991 3.) Toxic Fandom: theweek.com/articles/729911/rick-mortys-toxic-fans-are-ruining-terrific-show South park ginger controversy: 1. 31:17 ua-cam.com/video/83k_iihPCmI/v-deo.html 2.)southpark.fandom.com/wiki/Ginger_Kids/Trivia
Paul Tello He got corrupted and turned into a monster and nobody died he didn't really do anything other than throw a tantrum in monster form and he was turned into a human again because everyone hugged him and then he cried a lot just like he always does.
@Paul Tello Steven slowly becomes mental due to past trauma or some bullshit that should've shown itself way sooner and kills Jasper (but revives her because whats consequences), tries to kill White Diamond when she was just trying to help him with his bitch fits and partially destroys Lil. Homeschool with his uncontrolable, out of nowhere DBZ powers. Then he has some kinda meltdowm when Connie, Greg and the gems try to intervene and turns into a monster (just like the fandom and everyone else with 2 working braincells predicted like 2 million years ago) then the Diamonds appear and help save Steven by hugging him very hard and saying that they're there for him and that he did NOTHING wrong ever, THEY are the ones that are crappy and shitty for not devoting 100% of their time to the brightest star of the galaxy: Saint Steven. At the end Steven most likely realizes hes a public menace to Beach City and decides to make some bullshit self-discovery roadtrip through the US while receiving mental counseling and leave everyone he loves and knows behind because the most logical thing to do fresh out of a meltdown is go away from your safety net and live on your own
@Paul Tello no...they kissed in the mouth tho. We gotta cancel Rebecca Sugar for condoning Hetero-normativity (jk because they love eachother so much they turn into a non-binary hermaphrodite). That reminds me: remember that Fusion = Sex(usually) and Steven has been fusing with Connie since like season 1 sooo....
@@putridmoldyman306 I know, but their once was a controversy about JonTron being racist when he was on a podcast, drunk, answering questions. And a political one popped up.
I think her design is awesome. It really makes her stand out from the rest, especially the way she's animated. She moves all flexibly and cartoony, and I love it. Say what you want about Spinel, but in the movie, she was really well-written.
The halo fandom isn't anywhere near as cancerous. Tumblr and edgy 13 year old fangirls, the main 2 reason fandoms become complete and utter sewage, tend to not really play fps games.
Ah, yes, you should always listen to teenager how to run your country, 14-16 yeas old kids are always have the best ideas about how politics works. Let's not lie to ourselves, Gems only listen to him because he is Pink's son, not because he is right. I like Steven Universe, but Steven Universe Future is weirdly depressing and making plot point like teenage marriage, murder and suicide in a kids show. I like kids shows even if I'm adult because I like fun, relaxing and inocent of it.
I agree with you. I’ve always thought they listened to him just bc of Rose. And suf was horrid. I also liked su but they decimated suf. the basically spread the message that ptsd is a good excuse to freaking murder your friends
Spinel's backstory is a clusterfuck of multiple stories that clash horribly. rebecca wanted Spinel to symbolize maturing and growing up. the movie writers wanted pink and spinel to be friends who drifted away due to life circumstances. despite their goal, spinel ends up being written as an abandoned puppy, no metaphor needed. abandoning a dog and maturing faster than your friends are two completely different scenarios. you can't shove both ideas into one character. depending on who you ask, Rebecca, the writers, or the fans, spinel has a completely different backstory. Spinel is pink's literal toy, childhood friend and abandoned puppy all at the same time. you can't have all of this symbolism packed into one character because they contradict each other. spinel is still somewhat relatable…..if you exclude her extreme murderous tendencies. when the movie came out, some of the fandom was very vocal about her actions being justifiable. people legitimately tried to agrue that trauma is an excuse to hurt people yet become completely hypocritical when applying it to other characters. abuse is wrong, it's not up for debate nor "just an opinion". can't believe grown adults need to be told this.
@@theeye8276 Of course, because giving a bug the same value as a human doesn't make you look compromised in the moral department. Also, use your wording. Not all humans do that for fun -.- I've never once thought about putting salt on a slug, or crushing ants, or even stepping near spiders (arachnophobia is a thing). Anyways, the trauma doesn't justify her one bit. It doesn't. It doesn't matter how you metaphorically put it, she isn't justified.
@@theeye8276 What foul language. Did I use foul language when talking to you? Nope. Also, telling me to go somewhere else while not confronting the rest of my comment? Poor poor you.
@green lopez Ah, of course, calling a 20 yr old a baby. How mature. I said you were morally compromised for comparing the life of an ant to the life of a human. And I was being _partially_ respectful.
yea like spinel was maturing a little and then at the end we saw her revert to the playful thing she started out as when the diamonds came to take her and become her new pink
Yup. And they enforced the exact same message in suf. Steven straight up murdered someone and got away with it bc he has PTSD. It was just straight bullshit, excuse my language
To be fair the fandom has changed A LOT since then. That happened in i think 2013-2014 somewhere and you mean to tell me half the fandom didn't change/leave or join over the past SIX years. Its ridiculous.
@@jackhazardous4008 Obviously not but are you seriously telling me that half the fandom from six years ago didn't literally move on. Hold the people accountable who actually did that not some people who happen ro enjoy the same show. I actually WAS in the fandom when that shit happened and it was like four people who did it
@@KiraSlith You know you are trying to hold innocent people accountable when you cant accepr people grow and move on from like things in the span of SIX FUCKING YEARS. The few people who did that obviously suck but it was nowhere near the majority of the fandom, especially nkt the fandom now which is actually less toxic than, say the melanie martinez fandom
"He most does what he feels like doing." And that's exactly what _Pink Diamond_ did as well. Yet, she gets the hate constantly. Any character development was thrown out the window so we could feel sorry for Spinel, and it honestly made me dislike Spinel as a character. Not because she's bad- but because she's just like Lapiz. _"Feel sorry for them. Feel sorry because they've been through so much. They are depressed."_ and that's their only personality quirk aside from a few other things. Pink and Steven both do what they feel is right, what they feel like doing. They don't take much consideration when they feel they are in the correct state of mind. Which is something most of us humans do as well.
@@nilktots6380 No, not exactly misogynists. There is just simple preference with the main character, since he is the main one in everything. As well as preference over spinel, bringing excuses to make Pink seem worst.
I think the worst part about Steven Universe is that they tried to include a redemption arc for the genocidal space nazis that have wiped out entire planets. Kinda hard to forgive them for multiple counts of genocide. Don't forget, they would've wiped out earth too if Steven had failed to take time out of his busy life to stop the world from ending
Well as EZ pointed out, it's not completely clear that they were actually the bad guys (Having planets get destroyed to reproduce) (But there were some gem fusion experiments or something, I guess that could be counted as an act of wrongdoing? But Garnet herself was at the fault of that whole experiment going up..+ The Human Zoo or whatever). I mean, if anything Rebecca herself looks like the ultimate bad guy, I would say this would suit her; "Evil is not accepting bribes knowing that you destroy an innocent but believing that good is done: faith with a smile or educated dogma not touched by doubt, ideology with charisma."
@@NikolasoGames Apparently Earth is the first planet that had sentient life like humans. Other planets had random animals and plant life. However, them being dictators is pretty evil.
@Huff Boy Oh yeah, no one really calls out Vegeta for that ever, even fanbase wise. You know Bakugo right? A part of the fanbase acknowledges he was an awful bully but everyone just calls Vegeta cool.
Antho -: just here to remind people that lapis lazuli was trapped inside a mirror for a thousand years with no freedom due to the gems and it never gets brought up again
Oh my goodness, you’re right! Sesame Street dealt with a cast member dying as well as; autism, loving yourself, homelessness, drug addiction, anxiety. Honestly, if I wanna teach kids something, I’ll use Sesame Street
Sesame Street may be run by subversives who want their views adopted by your kids, but at least they know how to make quality media that's hard to complain about.
@@HeckNein glad I remembered what channel this was and had my volume halfway down in order to watch a video without the possibility of getting tinnitus. Seriously, I wonder how many subscribers he lost after that first SU video that was so poorly done.
Then Steven Universe Future happens and Steven suffers from PTSD and tries to force his ideologies on others. At this rate, Steven will create some form of a Gem Manifesto. To be honest, if that happened in show I might watch it again.
This is why him controlling White Diamond with his Pink Bitch Energy was a missed oppurtunity in Homeward Bound: He would've litterally had to face the consequences of his actions by fighting a representation of his fear of change. Considering how much they bash his Mom, I'm surprised they didn't do that.
I hate how the movie and Future dug up Pink Diamond’s (metaphorical) corpse and spat on it for drama purposes. After Change Your Mind I thought we had moved on from using Pink Diamond for dramatic plot reveals. She’s gone, end of story. But then they have to make her someone who abandoned her puppy/toy (actually what the movie shows us Spinel was like), and almost killed her friend (Pink Pearl) in a fit of rage I liked Steven Universe because the idea of highly advanced rock aliens, and how their world works, not to watch Steven talk down the strongest, highest status being in Gemkind by saying “no u”
Wait now that i think about it, why were the gems colonizing other planets qnd stripping them of theyr resources to make other gems, they cant die of aging so no need to make more and keep the species from going extinct and they dont need to eat or drink either so no need to strip a planets resources for food either, theres no other species we see or hear about thats on the level of humanity when it comes to technological advances let alone the gems, soo they have no need to make more warriors to protect themselves, they have no need for a military force either, not even to keep theyr own in check since all gems are completly subservient to the diamonds it seems, theyr entire existence seems like mystery that the shows staff didnt think about, or didnt think was important enough to show to us squandering even more of the potential world building the show could have had
@@harnanmylvaganam6311 I don't think they should've done that. What really was downright insulting was Steven finally got what he needed for years, therapy... off screen.
@@Stew91 "Hugging Steven didn't solve everything" Uh. The fuck it didnt? That hug basically said to the audience that anything can be solved by the power of love and friendship. The thing is, is that they did it fucking horribly. A hug should not have made Steven stop being the giant monster, and i know they only had 11 minutes, still. They could have made it 2 episodes.
@@theycallmet3061 same with me. Except after Steven Universe Future I started to really hate it. Just because I don't think anyone who works on the show actually knows what ptsd is.
@@mahliwowe Exactly. I have it and it's not all sunshine and rainbows like this show makes it out to be,at all. For example,three years ago thanks to someone I developed a fear of physical contact and abandonment. 1.5 years ago I met the people who helped me almost overcome it as a whole. But it doesn't work like *There you go,now your trauma is gone :D* Even after I had learned to "Love again" like Spinel did it was very hard not to smack people away or be disgusted by hugs. I only went back to loving physical contact NOW,a year and a half later. And sometimes I still ask these people who literally carried me while I almost conked out "Are you sure you actually like me?" You'll relapse and have ups and downs. It won't go away like that. You need to actually H E A L. Like y'know...With every illness? (It does get way better though,I swear.)
At the end of the day Steven Universe talking his way to victory is just flat out boring and anti-climatic, could you imagine if that was how Goku defeated Frieza or Jotaro and Dio?
im just mad because the whole concept of "gems" in steven universe is actually pretty interesting, and that there are a million missed opportunities. but yknow they just gotta throw in songs and representation and morals and other stuff, also STEVEN universe and kids show stuff so yeah. like imagine if we got to see this show from homeworld gem's perspective, seeing space exploration and other aliens and possibly even other gem enemies (like another, enemy diamond authority) and shit like that.
I really don't understand why everyone is saying that "gems are interesting concept" when they are not. Genderless aliens is a barebone thing in sci-fi (robots, non-humanoids /sex-change /egg layers, higher beings, splitters, cosmic slimes, intellegent spores, etc), on the level of "aliens came to conquest us all". It's no different than any other concept. You can make it good or bad, but it's nowhere unique.
@@ravensponsler9278 They made me uncomfortable both intentionally and unintentionally. Them commiting genocide and having powers such as mind control made them threatening villains, but I don't buy that they could be redeemed so easily. I would have preferred if they remained terrifying eldritch abominations and Steven learns that he can't always get through to people.
Bloodhound that’s not my reason honestly I don’t really care if there good or bad or both they … just made me feel uncomfortable because umm well umm there giants and if you’ve seen so Greg X diamond thing’s and seen how some are inappropriate. Especially when they were Steven in some scenes of episode made me feel really uncomfortable.
Not at first, cause it slowly sets in when you think about it. The longer you think about it the worst it gets, you stop watching the show and realize the existential horror that is steven universe hidden behind the veneer of happy colors and mediocre poppy music choices.
@@squashedshibber2684 I never actually noticed that the universe of Steven Universe is...strangely kind of Lovecraftian. Humans are constantly under the threat of a cosmic species that does have the power to eradicate humanity and the only thing stopping them from doing so is a fat kid and his three lesbian space rock mommies.
Finally someone having a similiar opinion to mine. I enjoy su casually. Su future was a let down, but i had hopes for the ending.... And it was also just meh.
@@ananaspryde5687 I kinda hoped Steven would actually learn to control his powers/emotions (kinda like in the smoky quartz episode), instead he just ran away. It was kinda underwhelming.
I do agree that the build up was rushed and the climax was extremely rushed. However, I am glad that they decided to address a topic like PTSD and other mental health issues. I wish they handled it a bit better though.
The shows creators came out when fusion was first introduced and said it was meant to be a metaphor for sex. You can't undo or unsay that, so why would you make Steven and his Dad fuse? You're either intentionally trying to confuse kids
@And I- Well, it is about relationships, but that DOESN'T deny that it is also about sex, but just between some Gems. Again, that doesn't erase that "sexual scenes" have happened in the show, leading to fusion, while others have had a relationship-kind of fusion. (22:10 Where EZ explains it in his words)
@And I- And of course, as because Steven imagines Greg being buff, that's what Greg shows through in the fusion, but that's also one of the creepy factors, his visual appearance and acting. Basically Greg is witnessing it.
@@yoursexualizedgrandparents6929 well as mentioned the universe seems to do what ever Steven wants so why waste all this time being.....well......Steven.
Tbh i feel like Garnet’s “truth” trigger was cause of how the revelation that Rose was Pink Diamond full on broke her; literally. Sapphire thought her and Ruby’s relationship was a lie, and therefore couldn’t see it as true love. But now, they can both be together because its how they truly feel about each other, without needing the “fake” validation from the person who taught them to love themselves- Rose taught them to never question themselves, to never question their love, but now Garnet can exist with the answer she needed to know: she’s the “true kinda love”.
I actually wish they would’ve given the gems their own “decision” of their gender pronouns since they don’t have a sex. So if they feel comfortable with “he” take it. It basically sucks that there is no logic behind this
I agree with everything you said about Steven universe, that show went downhill so fast ever since the Pink diamond was rose quartz reveal. except for the fact that adults can't enjoy cartoons. Samurai Jack was made for kids in cartoon network and is one of the best TV shows for all ages
I’ll say that Steven Universe Future is WORSE! I wish it just ended with the 5th season and the movie as the epilogue instead of ruining the characters is idiotic and dumb stories that must have been written by an edgy tumblr artist who wanted to make their head cannon real cannon! And I’m saying this as a fan of the show!
I thought that would be the case too. I was however not hoping for it, because I don't like feeling trolled like that. I am happy it wasn't 40 min black screene. I don't hate SU (I don't say I like it either, I like aspects/episodes/some messages but not the whole show, it's a mixed bag for me.), but I like watching this type of videos just to see an another perspective. I found this channel because of Star vs (which is my number 15 favourite cartoon and at the time it was even higher on my list, but even I am aware it has a lot of flaws, especially now the last season, but I was curious about his points), I watched the rant and subscribed.
i'd like to apologize to the my hero academia fandom for mistaking them as the worst fandom alive. (mha is still a toxic fandom just not as much as steven universe)
I’m crying laughing at the thought process “maybe a positive fandom will de-radicalize the alt-right” as if there are any fandoms who aren’t at least as toxic
I agree but i also really liked peridot. The only things is that they kind of forgot about peridot as an individual and now shes just part of a trio. Also they butchered Spinel in future 😔
Not Peridot or Lapis? Honestly I think they were the only good characters after Garnet was reduced to "the character who talks about fusions" after season 1. Before Spinel of course. Then again I might only like Lapis because her depression clicks with me, and I'm a sucker for water power characters and dancer characters with a primarily blue design (my favorite Fire Emblem character is NINIAN of all people, you'd think it would be Azura but her game is awful and she is a wasted character).
Ehh, I think the best written character was Pearl to me. It felt so real because you do not recover from a trauma that lasted for11000 years. (according to google pearl is 11000 years old and she was meant to serve the diamonds back from when she first was born so yeah)
I like Steven Universe. Its guilty plesure for me. But i have fun watching it and i like characters in it. But still i can agree with almost everything you said in your video and i enjoy watching it. Keep the good work. (Sorry for the bad english, i never was the best in it).
You left out the part where the entire fanbase praises spinel as being the most deep thought provoking and lovable character when in reality she has less depth and likeability than the most poorly written anime yandere waifu. Seriously why do people like her? She's such an insufferable character.
@@th3azscorpio cause she was abandoned people say thats why they relate to her... but i've seen way better characters with the same backstory. Even shadow the hedgehog as more depth.
@@squashedshibber2684 Not to mention, her whole thing with blowing up the planet with her injector; which held no stakes whatsoever. The writing in this show was just pure shit, no matter how you slice it.
@@TheGoldenPlatoon757 Lol thanks. I usually don't go too deep with examining this shows writing anymore, because the level of fury I get at the writers for completely fucking up the characters, especially Lapis.
I mean, I do like spinel, but I understand the hate surrounding her character: her symbolism, her justification, her place in the story. Steven Universe: The Movie was my first inclusion with the show and I didn't find it bad. As someone just entering the series I could understand a great amount of the world and backstories of most characters. Of course, having just gotten into the show and having not watched anything before suf, I didn't get much of the hate for Steven himself. It seems the main arguments going around are how "unrealistic" mental illness or redemption is portrayed in this show, and I do agree with some of them. Spinel threatened an entire planet and then was mostly forgiven for her actions, and then sent to the diamonds as a "coping method" for them, which really doesn't help spinel's trauma at all. Also goes to show a flaw in Steven's perfect character arc where he just let her be sent off. He didn't really forgive her, I mean he didn't instantly see her as a friend, which shows a small deal of hate hidden under that goodwill golly smile. I'd argue here that Spinel, although redeemed easily, wasn't really forgiven. Steven did the "talk it out" method, but as soon as the problem is resolved, he leaves her, TWICE. I think this is where Steven is first shown to have changed. The three gems in homeworld were kept around (I don't know the "because" part yet), probably because he liked them, but when it came to the diamonds and spinel, he was overjoyed to have them gone. That's a great deal of selfishness for a good guy, but his thoughts and actions are realistic here. I mean, his only thoughts were to get rid of the problem, but still keep up his ego to hide his darkness. That is dark, terrible, and goes to show the good guy isn't perfect, and I think he should have at least been punished for this. Damn this post is long. I meant to talk about Spinel here but then got into Steven XD.
The only thing that steven universe was missing for me was STAKES. Steven universe future while not infinitely better definitely is building up to some big STAKES involving previous events as PTSD. STAKES ARE GOOD STAKES ARE GOOD STAKE ARE GOOD STAKES ARE GOOD STAKES ARE GOD STAKES ARE GOOD STAKES ARE GOOD edit:STAKES ARE INDEED GOOD. Edit: it’s cool that folks understand and also BURGER
The stakes in the first series were that the planet was gonna get blown up though. Those were some high fuckin stakes, and that ended up being a really shit fuckin payoff.
Jason Thomas Yeah thats because high stakes aren’t what makes them good. When people are rooting for a relationship, the “will they, won’t they” are the stakes. Artificially bumping up stakes is something that amateur writers do because they can’t make people legitimately invested in their characters.
The Steven Universe movie was like a direct-to-video Disney sequel that couldn't be released on VHS because nobody has a VCR anymore so in order to make some money off of it, they had to broadcast it.
@@technoruffles7747 They released an epilogue series which focuses on Steven having mental trauma from all the stuff that happens in the show, and no they didn't end it because people stopped watching, the community is very alive.
I haven't met a single child who likes Steven Universe all the Steven Universe fans I've come across are adults and it's my personal theory that it wasn't even intended for children to begin with.
HadouKeyblade Yeah all the kids in my family want to watch Adventure Time and The Amazing World of Gumball and Teen Titans Go but they change the channel when Steven Universe comes on. I once asked my niece (she's 10) if she likes Steven Universe and she told me she finds it boring. That just supports my theory that Steven Universe was never made for 6-11 year olds and was in fact made for childish adults. If you watch the pilot it looks like it would feel a lot more at home on adult swim and I think that's what it was intended for but whoever green lit it decided that it would be more at home on their kids block and I'm guessing that's why the animation for the final product was made to look cuter as well.
Johnny Joestar It claims to be aimed at 6-11 year olds but like I said I don't know a single child under 13 who likes this show the youngest Steven Universe fan I know is 13 (my friends little brother) and I don't think it was ever intended for children and if Cartoon Network could let the writers have the freedom to do what they want instead of trying to make it kid friendly it would probably make a much better show. I might be wrong though.
*3 things occurred to me watching this.* 1. _Steven Universe_ is a show that would be better if *everything* was taken at face value with no faulty metaphors. And better written in general. 2. How on sweet Holy Terra is "survivors of other Gem colonies take revenge" *not* the plot of this movie? I would watch the heck out of that! I'm imagining macho metal men who can shatter gems with their ultra-pecs. 3. Ooooooo, your use of SimCity 4 music makes me smile, my man.
Yeah the women/ not actually women and fusion is sex / fusions not actually sex stuff is annoying and confusing. It makes it hard to get invested in it.
@@mahliwowe I'm with you there.👍 I get the impression that they didn't think the "genderless gems" thing all the way through. If they just said _they're all female,_ it wouldn't be a big deal, considering we've had media that loads of people like with female-centric casts before. That and the Gems are a species that reproduce by plunging large "Injectors" into the surface of a world to give life to new Gems. Hmm... Oooohhhh good grief, *Fusion* is so poorly conceived and creates _so many unfortunate implications_ that it actually put me off the show. I know they tried to backpedal on it and say it's 'harmony in any relationship', but like it or not they established it as "sex" early on - with rather on-the-nose imagery, might I add - and that's not something you'd forget. *Stevonnie and Steg* are probably the most disturbing examples considering that knowledge. 😨
@@DoctorInk20 not to mention they recently stated Peridot was asexual because she didn't fuse. But none of the gems have genitalia so they are all asexual. Ugh it makes me uncomfortable. I've never watched a kids cartoon where I had to work out the logic of a characters sexuality and genitals to understand it. Especially with Stevonnie and Steg like you said 🙃
@@mahliwowe @Mahli Wowe That's another good point you've made. This is supposed to be _a children's show, ages 8-11..._ yet the audience chiefly seems to be teens and college students. It's no surprise merch didn't sell well. XD Ah, _Peridot._ The one good character. Two things with her: 1. She, like other Homeworld Gems, should have been used to contrast against the Crystal Gems more, just to show how rigid, regimented and uptight the Homeworld truly is. That is, if the CGs didn't act pretty weird and alien to begin with and were actually integrated into human society. 2. That statement you mentioned basically says to me, "Hey if you're uncomfortable with being in a threesome your first time, there's a problem with you!" Which is not something you want in a children's show! Like you say, drawing a flowchart for character sexualities is not a priority. XD Sweet Threepwood's beard, my brain breaks down thinking about! XD Nobody thought this through! If they took out the sex bit and just made it a cool superpower (that has other applications), it'd be fine! We'd all be comfortable and enjoying ourselves, but we can't! Not gonna lie, I've been writing my own analysis of SU and how I'd rewrite the whole thing to make it work and this conversation helped me to flesh out the "Fusion" aspect. So thank you. XD
@@DoctorInk20 When you're finished writing it I'd love to read it. I used to love the show, but honestly after Future I realized how awful it really was. So I love watching and reading stuff that trashes it. Edit: or fix it lmao
I mean talking about abandonment issues is a good concept to give to children so they can be mindful of peers. A lot of kids suffer from it. Also her reacting with abandonment by Steven could be subconscious reaction, buuut her singing about her past yeah that's inexcusable
"really wholesome fandom" that same fandom tried to bully a child dying of cancer because he used his make a wish wish to watch the episodes early...I feel bad for that child, knowing one of his last thoughts was probably "Why does everyone hate me, I only wanted to watch a few episodes"
24:54 I think I’m actually someone who the show is for, which is a little odd since I love it when you criticize the show. I watched the show when I was 11 and it was released but as I got older I got attached to the show (probably due to nostalgia). I still notice the problems with the show (which makes it fun to listen to you bash it) but I still enjoy the show regardless. Don’t worry I do not support the fan base or the writers beliefs or certain messages that don’t make sense.Thanks EZ PZ! Also do you have any good recommendations for some good shows I can watch?
Once it went black for a few seconds I started scrolling through the comments to see if the video was 40min of black screen. After reading this comment I dropped the volume a bunch and the MOMENT I thought I found a suitable volume the jump scare happened. So thanks for the heads up man you saved my ears
Giulia CF I mean, he pisses of a lot of people from all walks of life. The real trick is wether he is doing it with purpose of if he naturally exudes that “dickishness” factor.
13:02 THANK YOU!!!! I remember stopping to think before realizing that they could've done a shit ton more with Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune, or any other planet in our solar system that's not Mars or Mercury with MUCH LESS EFFORT AND FOR MORE RESOURCES! But in terms of their armies I belive its to keep their subjects in check along with concurring worlds with living beings on them such as Earth
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Isn't this the same fandom that threaten an artist cause they didn't like how they drew pink diamond? Lmao yah a really wholesome fandom
Well, it was Rose Quartz but they're the same person but you know what I mean
“Disagreeing” with someone’s art and deciding they should die gives me a hitler vibe. Wish they would fuck off
Artist: Here’s a picture Rose Quartz I drew, what do you think?
Steffens universe fandom seeing that she’s skinnier: She can’t do that, shoot her, or something!
Is that the same fandom. Who hated on a kid with cancer for wanting to watch early episodes? Hmmm...
lol ya, what a couple of dickheads.
With all the lesbian rock aliens in the show, Steven is still the gayest character.
Rainbow Quartz 2.0 would like to speak with you.
Artizap is that not still technically Steven?
Rugal Bernstein He’s so gay he managed to make pearl even gayer
Rugal Bernstein No, it’s a fusion. Fusions aren’t the same as the characters they are made up of
Green Moon what ??? They are still there characters. They retain there mental state inside the fusion. That’s like saying if I put a slice of turkey in between some bread it isn’t turkey anymore.
"Say you're sorry or you and your friend will die of starvation"
"No"
"Okay cool"
(That's how it actually went down)
Nah, man don't forget the worst one:
"Stop acting like a child!"
"No u"
"I AM DEFEATED"
Oh, I am slain
*he dies*
(That’s how it actually went down) Not really, but ok lmao
The gems: “ok so we’re in home world we gotta play it cool and play by their rules to guarantee our safety and our audience with White Diamond.”
Steven: “ok buuuuuut this dance is boring and lame and I don’t care that I’m in the throne room of the most ruthless empire in the galaxy, dance with me Connie.”
The gems: “Behold the powers of
Love and friendship-“ **get poofed**
Lol ouch
rhonda howard blue diamond didn’t know they needed to eat. Your comment doesn’t make sense
They also tried to claim that Peridot was asexual because she wouldn't fuse; whilst also saying that fusion isn't sex and is a relationship (platonic, abusive, mutual hate, etc.) Its gross and pathetic.
Yeah. I was really disappointed when they said that. Being asexual doesn’t mean you’re incapable of love or a close relationship, I don’t know what they were going for. If there is one thing they need to be clear about- it’s fusion. They can’t seem to make up their minds whether its sex or a relationship
@@patiencewallace8453 A lot of fans were upset for the after thought of a tweet my friend! It felt more like the storyboard artist just wanted to shove in a last minute headcanon and piss off shippers.
that was a rumor that your taking for fact.....
@@Jdudec367 I mean the storyboard artist that tweeted it treats it as fact. And no other crew member has said otherwise.
@@mahliwowe oh really? they only confirmed peridot is asexual not that it had to do with fusion
Saying "It'S a KiDs ShOw" as an excuse when people point out the Diamonds are Nazis, but then claiming "It'S sO mAtUrE!" when they attempt (very badly) to show mental health issues, is just plain hypocritical.
This reminds me of recently, one of the storyboard artists "confirmed" in a tweet (outside of the show) that Peridot was supposed to be ace/aro this whole time because she never fused. So people within the fandom say that Peridot is "asexual because she didn't fuse."
So when people say, "Does that mean Steven had sex with his dad?" They freak out and start to explain how it isn't actually sex? Its ridiculous.
@@mahliwowe they always go back on previous points to poorly defend the show
@@mahliwowe
I never got that myself.
"Well, fusion is sex in certain situations but isn't sex in other situations."
I don't think it works that way.
@@kazmakazii I just hate how the creators think "good storytelling" is explaining something one way in the show, and then it not blowing over well and then changing it outside of it. They are always like "well no you just misinterpreted"
@@lupinsredjacket3191 I don't get that either. Its kind of like how the Diamonds were written as genocidal and then recently ian jq tweeted that they really weren't all along. To think, I actually liked this show at one point.
Why isn’t the government of any country getting involved in gem matters in this show.
Because government doesn't exist in this gay Utopia
plot convenience!
eh...garnet says they try to get rid of evidence of said gem matters
@@Jdudec367 doesn't change a fact that there are literal alien constructions that the government should study
@@podroznikzpustkowi4805 eh...true actually. still what I said is still fact
Me: so what are stevens powers again
Rebecca: yes
Plot armor and being free of consequences lol
@@nicktheprick666 Soo true ,He get away with shattering Jasper and he never tell it to the Crystal Gem
@@nicktheprick666 plot armor like? beig free of consequnnces I don't think so
@@ValenArtsAnimation he did tell them and they freaked out and tried to talk to him about it
@@Jdudec367 Plot armor is mostly when some deus ex machina happens and saves him, basically when he gets some new ability at the last second or someone appears and saves him. This is done so often that with a simple conbo of shield ball + heal spit, he's basically invincible.
Freedom of consequences is basically a side effect of the above, if someone dies, he can rez them (Lars). If he's about get hit with a deadly attack, he can shield it (Most fights, especially when he's alone). If a gem gets poofed, he can fuse with them and rez them (When he falls down the hole in the finale). If he breaks something important, the plot bends to his will and makes the mistake no longer matter (When he forgot a specific talisman that was needed to save a temple, it was revealed to just be a test). Basically, if he makes a mistake that has bad consequences, he can either undo, nullify it, or it didn't matter anyway.
Just remember.
Steven would LITTERALLY be friends with Hitler, and it is no Joke.
He isn’t friends with the diamonds tho
Koopalings channel pretty sure he is.
Swan D I see it as he deals with them so they don’t go on a murder spree. They aren’t redeemed just dealt with and held back
@@bonsaigecko9153 doesnt change the fact that hes on good term with them.
This makes me wonder if he would be friends with Stalin.....
While I do think that incorporating adult themes into children's cartoons isn't bad in itself (Avatar the Last Airbender handled things like genocide, mental illness, and physical abuse phenomenally), the writers of Steven Universe were just too obsessed with their own agendas and just not competent enough writers to pull things like that off.
True, I don't think that saying kids shows shouldn't be mature or complex just cause kids are stupid and aren't gonna get it. Cartoon networks demographic is actually pretty broad. Sure kids that are like 6 aren't gonna get it and they might just watch for bright colors and comedy. But the child fandom of SU actually consists of kids 9-12. And adults and teens watch the show too. Sure the writers could handle the themes better but it's kinda shity to just say that the show is for babies and toddlers and putting mature themes and lessons into a show at all is brainwashing kids. My point is that each age group and individual is gonna get something different they enjoy out of it and gatekeeping it isn't gonna help anyone. Kids might come back to watch it when their older and early like the mature emotional stuff. I'm doing that for adventure time right now since I was like 5 when it aired.
I like their normalization of lesbian / gay. "Cartoons shouldn't have adult themes" is pure insanity. When i was a kid in the 70s/80s watching Starblazers, it was about planet-destroying, nuclear genocide. Some people are, "cartoons shouldn't be sexualized". Well, Starblazers again, the main character clearly had a love relationship (hetero, but still) with the main chick in it. I mean, a kid can watch their parents hug and kiss a million times a day anyway. Some of the "adult" themes hit in Steven Universe usually end up with the characters raging, crying and clearly having PAIN... which is an accurate depiction and not a bad message. AND... and... the showrunners did it within their OWN franchise, not by overtaking a one that existed already. (Marvel, DC, Disney itself... destroying franchise after franchise with character-mutating politics...)
What writers? It's just Sugar, and we see how that turned out
JinzoCrash Well, the normalization of homosexual relationships is something that isn't accepted by everyone, for hundreds of different reasons. The question that remains is "Should cartoons be used as a political tool, even if indirectly?"
@@perpetualsystems If you see gay relationships as nothing but 'political', you aren't mature enough to be analysing writing, sorry. It's just a relationship, like any straight relationship in a cartoon, nothing political about it. And if some people get offended by the normalisation of homosexual relationship, well that's just tough shit, sometimes you have to just grow up and accept the real world, and that's not aimed at you, it's aimed at the people who don't like the normalisation of homosexual relationships.
Steven is a 20/10 Gary-Stu.
Is A Special Hybrid: +1 point
He Can Do No Wrong: +3 points
When He DOES Do Something Wrong, He Solves The Issue Immediately: +3 points
With Little To No Repercussions, Might I Add: +2 points
Every Character Loves Him: +5
Blatant Plot Armor: +6 points
Oh damn-
There's actually a few characters that Don't like him but honestly agree with the rest and I love Steven :p
hybrid? doesn't make him a gary stu
can do no wrong LOL no just no
like?oh yeah...turning himself into aquamarine that solved everything....no wait...it didn't
like? "ur he broke greg's fan" yeah and pearl chewed him out for it" "he killed jaspe-" a mentally ill person accidentally took there powers to far really..he was honestly going crazy...they were gonna talk with him more about it but they had to do it well
you think everyone loves him? bluebird doesn't Jasper didn't a lot of characters don't took lars some time to like him to...he wasn't just liked by all from the start took time for more people to even like him
"plot armor" ok give me examples and not just actual armor he should have cause of story reasons (like his shield and bubble)
Jayden C To be honest, Steven seems like those ocs a 10-year old would make to seem cool
@@radioheadfan201 eh...you mean future steven or original? either way that can be said about a lot of popular protagonst I could argue. He still isn't a mary sue/gary stu.
I liked Steven universe. But the only thing I really hated was how "easy" they solved the major problems. Like c'mon, you're telling me just TALKING to white diamond, the most powerful being in the universe, would make her change? Like in her perspective some pleb little dude is telling her to change when she could've been like fought or crushed or sum. And also when Steven becomes a monster. Everything in that felt rushed. They could've made Steven evil and made another series trying to stop monster Steven or something. IDK, the endings felt rushed
pingus 19 ok, so imagine your daughter dies. And then 14 years later you discover she’s actually alive. And you try desperately to set everything back to how it was before the tragedy, because you see your role as keeping up appearances and holding everything together, and making everything right. So you hold up this incredibly fragile facade that everything is ok, and can just go back to the way it was before. That’s white diamond’s perspective. It isn’t just Steven making a one off joke that shatters her composure, it’s years of grief hidden behind a mask. The thing that turns blue and yellow, (and white too to some extent tho this isn’t really shown until future) is being woken up to the fact that it was THEIR actions and abuse that pushed pink away and caused them to lose her, and now they were doing it again. For white, the final straw is realizing that she’s wrong, that she isn’t making everything better, that pink is really gone, when she pulls out Steven’s gem. THAT’S what broke her. At that point she was just groveling and spiraling from this realization, she was going to lose her composure no matter what, the sick burn on steven’s part was just a nice touch that really pushed her over the edge. Was the ending rushed? Yes, absolutely. But that was because of limitations put on the crewniverse. Rebecca had to fight HARD just to get a handful more episodes to finish off the season, and at the time they didn’t think the show would be continuing at all. They did what they could within the limitations they had, and ultimately I think the finale said everything it needed to say.
I think the ending was pretty rushed but the future one it was good a build up for the last 2 episodes i mean they could barely make the last season but you expect them to make one for defeating steven
"speech no jutsu" is becoming a major cartoon trope lately
Epilogue
@@itarfer it's still a shit way of handling it and really unrealistic. Steven universe was good and then season 4 happened and it became shit
For such a progressive show, the female characters get on their knees for the male main character.
They don't even say the word wife
@QuickThePorcupine From the clips I’ve seen they do most of the rod gargling while he’s normal.
@QuickThePorcupine yeah but in the most important moments he didn't fuse did he?
Oh wow... you have a startling good point. I never thought about that. Thank you for mentioning that
how? I mean steven is kind of the one who saved the universe but others helped him
“Steven puts people first YALL!”
Cut to Steven, in the Epilogue series finale, only NOW allowing his dad to live in the house once he’s leaving: OOPS.
Greg is rich, he could buy a house if he wished, but he lives in his van because he wants to, dudes got nine million.
Johnny Joestar
What about before he got his money?
Zig Zoinks If he really was still living in a van as a millionaire, don’t you think that he simply just enjoys it or has become accustomed to it so much he never really minded it.
Greg built Steven a house, but lives in a van apparently.
You mean the room made for him?
In his house?
Just because he focuses more on helping his friends than himself doesn’t mean he should give up his room to his millionaire father lmao
I am still trying to wrap my head around why anyone would make a show about a hyper intelligent war faring alien species that are highly implied to have wiped out every other sentient species in the galaxy and give them more emotional baggage than a pack of emo teens in the early 2000s at a My chemical romance concert.
Blobbert Mcblob Yeah. Kind of defeats the purpose of having an alien species that was not familiar to the human kind. Suddenly, now they are more emotional than your average person.
I also really like how after that, people try to defend the show by saying it’s a children movie.
It’s like making a children’s movie out of journeys of SS deserter in Russia... Wait, that’s what they did.
@@Probablylani Gems are regarded as if they are extremely computer based. They function almost similar to AI, honestly. Introducing humanity to AI is what this series is most akin to. To an extent, it's like a computer getting to replicate emotion reasonably and kind of dialing it up a bit too much. And it doesn't help that they must emulate Steven who is ESPECIALLY emotional.
I mean it could work? Surely you'd be emotionally fucked in the head living with a race of loveless murderous rock people..problem with SU its a melodrama. It's not intended to be deep.
@@sincerelyhenry.9585 Alright kid, calm yo ass down. People are allowed to have opinions, don't like it? go back to preschool.
I'm willing to bet good money that Steven would forgive Hitler if he told him that he was rejected from art school and has been a sad man with a silly mustache since
LMFAAOOO
I can see that happen
Animation when?
I liked Steven at first now they ruined him.
0:09 The SU fandom will NEVER live that down.....
Thats the most tame drama. I've seen weird shit unfold on tumblr like how pearl is a racist or something and ready to attack the staff.
A community should never try to live something that bad down. Recognize it. Recognize the toxicity of the fan base, and purge it. Instead they ignored it and defended the toxicity with worse toxicity. Just to clarify this, I despise the show for the writing and poor production, not the fan base. The fan base I despise the radical parts.
All Fandoms are human cancer, for example the rick and morty crowd can never live down szechwan gate, and southwark fans literally adopted “beat a ginger day” literally a day to commit assault against a certain group of people just for existing, cause the south park creators are self admitted bigots towards red headed people.
and no that’s no joke, trey parker literally admitted he hates gingers and that he specifically married his asian wife cause asians don’t carry the ginger gene, a joke they included in the episode as well
so yeah...
Mckenzie .Latham A little bold accusations there buddy, could you show us some proof?
@@authorhazel1554 Um well it’s pretty easy to find since i named the incidents
but sure i’ll do your due diligence for you
Rick and Morty controversy:
1.) Szechuan sauce incident:
www.polygon.com/2017/10/9/16447460/rick-and-morty-szechuan-sauce-mcdonalds-fans-anger
2.) 9/11 joke incident:
www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/furious-rick-morty-fans-threaten-22023991
3.) Toxic Fandom:
theweek.com/articles/729911/rick-mortys-toxic-fans-are-ruining-terrific-show
South park ginger controversy:
1. 31:17
ua-cam.com/video/83k_iihPCmI/v-deo.html
2.)southpark.fandom.com/wiki/Ginger_Kids/Trivia
"I let my subscribers pick the topic for me"
and you got what you deserve!
Stop being everywhere you corona hating racist
Id note that there arent any comments asking for this video on the first 2 pages.
EZ just has a steven universe fetish.
Would have fine with him just randomly saying the N word alot.
@@davidplumb2604 I'm racist and I'm proud
EZ PZ: I don't want to talk about this sh*t
The Subscribers: You've made your bed. Now, LIE. IN. IT.
Revival same energy as “Get in the robot Shinji!”
"end my suffering"- this video in a nutshell.
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Only after he apologizes for 9/11
@@SomeGuy1234X kek
Please let stop this show by not watch cartoon network for 2 year.
@@isabelfranqui3504 That is exactly what I did. In fact, I've done it longer than that.
me: wait its all toxic feminists
SU fans: always has been
True
friendly reminder that its 2020 not 2016
spike 😐 ok, what are you getting at here?
spike feminists can still be toxic, real and radical.
not all really
What an absolute madlad: posting this literal hours after the Steven Universe Future ending.
You have my respect, you funky little angry gem
Gotta maximize them viewers and I like that
When is EZPZ gonna get a gemsona?
Paul Tello He got corrupted and turned into a monster and nobody died he didn't really do anything other than throw a tantrum in monster form and he was turned into a human again because everyone hugged him and then he cried a lot just like he always does.
@Paul Tello Steven slowly becomes mental due to past trauma or some bullshit that should've shown itself way sooner and kills Jasper (but revives her because whats consequences), tries to kill White Diamond when she was just trying to help him with his bitch fits and partially destroys Lil. Homeschool with his uncontrolable, out of nowhere DBZ powers. Then he has some kinda meltdowm when Connie, Greg and the gems try to intervene and turns into a monster (just like the fandom and everyone else with 2 working braincells predicted like 2 million years ago) then the Diamonds appear and help save Steven by hugging him very hard and saying that they're there for him and that he did NOTHING wrong ever, THEY are the ones that are crappy and shitty for not devoting 100% of their time to the brightest star of the galaxy: Saint Steven.
At the end Steven most likely realizes hes a public menace to Beach City and decides to make some bullshit self-discovery roadtrip through the US while receiving mental counseling and leave everyone he loves and knows behind because the most logical thing to do fresh out of a meltdown is go away from your safety net and live on your own
@Paul Tello no...they kissed in the mouth tho. We gotta cancel Rebecca Sugar for condoning Hetero-normativity (jk because they love eachother so much they turn into a non-binary hermaphrodite).
That reminds me: remember that Fusion = Sex(usually) and Steven has been fusing with Connie since like season 1 sooo....
Huh, I never knew JonTron was a bisexual cartoon character
When you say JonTron, are you pairing it with the racism or his looks?
JonTron's show is written way better than this show will ever be, don't you ever disrespect him like that again!
@@riddleblue-eyes8768
Clearly his looks, considering jon isnt racist
@@putridmoldyman306 I know, but their once was a controversy about JonTron being racist when he was on a podcast, drunk, answering questions. And a political one popped up.
@@riddleblue-eyes8768 and what he said wasn't even incorrect
Why does the villain look almost like jenny the teenage robot?
The fact that your not wrong tho
This brings flashbacks to "What what in a Robot."
@@helium-379 don't
Some questions cant be answered
I think her design is awesome. It really makes her stand out from the rest, especially the way she's animated. She moves all flexibly and cartoony, and I love it. Say what you want about Spinel, but in the movie, she was really well-written.
Animal crossing fans: we are wholesome
Steven universe fans: we are wholesome
Do you get the joke? The joke is there both lying
P K F I R E
Reddit:we are wholsome
What did the animal crossing fandom do I thought they were actually wholesome did I miss smthn-
@@gloopii2364 Tranimal Crossing
@@marutogo3245 when I read that I had flashbacks to smash ultimate online
"sTeVeN uNiVeRse iS a wHoLeSoMe fAnDoM"
The steven universe fandom is pure dogshit.
Along with Voltron, Homestuck, and undertale
Undertale especially
MicTheAutisticOni ah! Don’t forget Eddsworld!
And Halo
Undertale was a great indie game. Tumblr which flocked to it has to be gassed though.
The halo fandom isn't anywhere near as cancerous. Tumblr and edgy 13 year old fangirls, the main 2 reason fandoms become complete and utter sewage, tend to not really play fps games.
" I can't wait till the diamonds get culturally enriched"
Who's gonna tell him?
Just... Just let it simmer...
yo yo yo Black Gold is in the house, where the white gems at?
i dont watch this trash, what happened?
gem r a p 3 LETS GOOOOOOO
i..i dont get it...what are you refering, dont tell me some crappy cringey rap montage or soemthing
Ah, yes, you should always listen to teenager how to run your country, 14-16 yeas old kids are always have the best ideas about how politics works. Let's not lie to ourselves, Gems only listen to him because he is Pink's son, not because he is right. I like Steven Universe, but Steven Universe Future is weirdly depressing and making plot point like teenage marriage, murder and suicide in a kids show. I like kids shows even if I'm adult because I like fun, relaxing and inocent of it.
I agree with you. I’ve always thought they listened to him just bc of Rose. And suf was horrid. I also liked su but they decimated suf. the basically spread the message that ptsd is a good excuse to freaking murder your friends
I mean....he has been right but not always they don't always do what he says
also when was suicide ever mentioned in the show? Anyways yeah I would still say he was mostly right it seems.
You shouldn’t dislike a kids show because it tackles dark topics. You should dislike it because it handles them POORLY
Spinel's backstory is a clusterfuck of multiple stories that clash horribly.
rebecca wanted Spinel to symbolize maturing and growing up.
the movie writers wanted pink and spinel to be friends who drifted away due to life circumstances.
despite their goal, spinel ends up being written as an abandoned puppy, no metaphor needed.
abandoning a dog and maturing faster than your friends are two completely different scenarios. you can't shove both ideas into one character.
depending on who you ask, Rebecca, the writers, or the fans, spinel has a completely different backstory.
Spinel is pink's literal toy, childhood friend and abandoned puppy all at the same time. you can't have all of this symbolism packed into one character because they contradict each other.
spinel is still somewhat relatable…..if you exclude her extreme murderous tendencies.
when the movie came out, some of the fandom was very vocal about her actions being justifiable. people legitimately tried to agrue that trauma is an excuse to hurt people yet become completely hypocritical when applying it to other characters. abuse is wrong, it's not up for debate nor "just an opinion". can't believe grown adults need to be told this.
@@theeye8276
Of course, because giving a bug the same value as a human doesn't make you look compromised in the moral department.
Also, use your wording. Not all humans do that for fun -.- I've never once thought about putting salt on a slug, or crushing ants, or even stepping near spiders (arachnophobia is a thing).
Anyways, the trauma doesn't justify her one bit. It doesn't. It doesn't matter how you metaphorically put it, she isn't justified.
@@theeye8276
What foul language. Did I use foul language when talking to you? Nope. Also, telling me to go somewhere else while not confronting the rest of my comment? Poor poor you.
@green lopez
Ah, of course, calling a 20 yr old a baby. How mature. I said you were morally compromised for comparing the life of an ant to the life of a human.
And I was being _partially_ respectful.
yea like spinel was maturing a little and then at the end we saw her revert to the playful thing she started out as when the diamonds came to take her and become her new pink
Yup. And they enforced the exact same message in suf. Steven straight up murdered someone and got away with it bc he has PTSD. It was just straight bullshit, excuse my language
REALLY WHOLESOME FANDOM
Also thanks for including my komment, babe ;3
Yeah wholesome, my ass
Also, another earrapey intro god? :0
You ment cumment
it showed up just as I was finishing editing
Ok furry
>really wholesome fandom
>fandom harasses artist to suicide
In the words of John Cena, "Are you sure about that?"
To be fair the fandom has changed A LOT since then. That happened in i think 2013-2014 somewhere and you mean to tell me half the fandom didn't change/leave or join over the past SIX years. Its ridiculous.
@@tijanaself897 driving someone to suicide isn't something you can sweep under the rug.
@@tijanaself897 You know you're grasping for excuses when you have to frame half your community bailing as a good thing.
@@jackhazardous4008 Obviously not but are you seriously telling me that half the fandom from six years ago didn't literally move on. Hold the people accountable who actually did that not some people who happen ro enjoy the same show. I actually WAS in the fandom when that shit happened and it was like four people who did it
@@KiraSlith You know you are trying to hold innocent people accountable when you cant accepr people grow and move on from like things in the span of SIX FUCKING YEARS. The few people who did that obviously suck but it was nowhere near the majority of the fandom, especially nkt the fandom now which is actually less toxic than, say the melanie martinez fandom
"He most does what he feels like doing."
And that's exactly what _Pink Diamond_ did as well. Yet, she gets the hate constantly. Any character development was thrown out the window so we could feel sorry for Spinel, and it honestly made me dislike Spinel as a character. Not because she's bad- but because she's just like Lapiz. _"Feel sorry for them. Feel sorry because they've been through so much. They are depressed."_ and that's their only personality quirk aside from a few other things. Pink and Steven both do what they feel is right, what they feel like doing. They don't take much consideration when they feel they are in the correct state of mind. Which is something most of us humans do as well.
are you suggesting the su fandom are misogynists who bash female characters despite being the same as a male one? are they the new anti-reys?
@@nilktots6380 No, not exactly misogynists. There is just simple preference with the main character, since he is the main one in everything.
As well as preference over spinel, bringing excuses to make Pink seem worst.
@@alondrita3107 i dunno man i think they sound like sexists and they probably need #cancelled and driven into the streets
Alondra Peña. I write better in my Gem 💎 Titans series.
@@jamiethomas3768 I dont get it
Steven Universe is a harem.
Change my mind.
Wrong, it’s haram!!
It’s a harambe
Helltaker has some competition.
A harem where the main character doesn't get any even in the end
Wait maybe
I think the worst part about Steven Universe is that they tried to include a redemption arc for the genocidal space nazis that have wiped out entire planets. Kinda hard to forgive them for multiple counts of genocide. Don't forget, they would've wiped out earth too if Steven had failed to take time out of his busy life to stop the world from ending
Well as EZ pointed out, it's not completely clear that they were actually the bad guys (Having planets get destroyed to reproduce) (But there were some gem fusion experiments or something, I guess that could be counted as an act of wrongdoing? But Garnet herself was at the fault of that whole experiment going up..+ The Human Zoo or whatever). I mean, if anything Rebecca herself looks like the ultimate bad guy, I would say this would suit her;
"Evil is not accepting bribes knowing that you destroy an innocent but believing that good is done: faith with a smile or educated dogma not touched by doubt, ideology with charisma."
It’s like redeeming Hitler. He killed millions and then his nephew makes him blush and he’s a good guy now. That’s not how it works.
Well Rebecca Sugar said in a article that he didn't forgive them soooooo
@@NikolasoGames Apparently Earth is the first planet that had sentient life like humans. Other planets had random animals and plant life. However, them being dictators is pretty evil.
@Huff Boy Oh yeah, no one really calls out Vegeta for that ever, even fanbase wise. You know Bakugo right? A part of the fanbase acknowledges he was an awful bully but everyone just calls Vegeta cool.
When Sesame Street knows how to handle adult themes better the Steven universe
Seasame street is a classic. It understands kids and adults and doesn't try to complicate things with weird quirky emotional behavior
Antho -: just here to remind people that lapis lazuli was trapped inside a mirror for a thousand years with no freedom due to the gems and it never gets brought up again
Oh my goodness, you’re right! Sesame Street dealt with a cast member dying as well as; autism, loving yourself, homelessness, drug addiction, anxiety. Honestly, if I wanna teach kids something, I’ll use Sesame Street
@@carlacarrero4975 lmao tf you mean. Lapis goes through a whole arc hating the gems
Sesame Street may be run by subversives who want their views adopted by your kids, but at least they know how to make quality media that's hard to complain about.
I didn’t skip once throughout the hole blackout.
You scared the living shit out of me.
He could at least give an earrape warning before he did that.
@@KaiKrimson56 That implies he wants your ears to not be in pain.
@@HeckNein glad I remembered what channel this was and had my volume halfway down in order to watch a video without the possibility of getting tinnitus.
Seriously, I wonder how many subscribers he lost after that first SU video that was so poorly done.
TL: DR of this movie - Joker complains to local Chernobyl victim about living in a society.
That sounds like a movie I'd want to watch, you know- if it was well-aware of what it was doing and had an actual writing staff
Since E;R didn't do it I guess this works.
Then Steven Universe Future happens and Steven suffers from PTSD and tries to force his ideologies on others. At this rate, Steven will create some form of a Gem Manifesto. To be honest, if that happened in show I might watch it again.
This is why him controlling White Diamond with his Pink Bitch Energy was a missed oppurtunity in Homeward Bound: He would've litterally had to face the consequences of his actions by fighting a representation of his fear of change. Considering how much they bash his Mom, I'm surprised they didn't do that.
I hate how the movie and Future dug up Pink Diamond’s (metaphorical) corpse and spat on it for drama purposes. After Change Your Mind I thought we had moved on from using Pink Diamond for dramatic plot reveals. She’s gone, end of story.
But then they have to make her someone who abandoned her puppy/toy (actually what the movie shows us Spinel was like), and almost killed her friend (Pink Pearl) in a fit of rage
I liked Steven Universe because the idea of highly advanced rock aliens, and how their world works, not to watch Steven talk down the strongest, highest status being in Gemkind by saying “no u”
Wait now that i think about it, why were the gems colonizing other planets qnd stripping them of theyr resources to make other gems, they cant die of aging so no need to make more and keep the species from going extinct and they dont need to eat or drink either so no need to strip a planets resources for food either, theres no other species we see or hear about thats on the level of humanity when it comes to technological advances let alone the gems, soo they have no need to make more warriors to protect themselves, they have no need for a military force either, not even to keep theyr own in check since all gems are completly subservient to the diamonds it seems, theyr entire existence seems like mystery that the shows staff didnt think about, or didnt think was important enough to show to us squandering even more of the potential world building the show could have had
* refering to fusing as gem sex *
Me: well I'm, yet again, not prepared for Steg
The ending was ass, end every problem with friendship stop literal Godzilla but an emotionally broken teenager with MORE LOVE!?
I wanted to see that hug fail miserably along with this clip from Ed Edd n Eddy of Eddy saying, "way to go Mr. Sensitive. A hug. Oh that's rich."
ICE storm yeah, I really wish they murdered Steven
@@harnanmylvaganam6311 I don't think they should've done that. What really was downright insulting was Steven finally got what he needed for years, therapy... off screen.
ICE storm, hugging Steven didn't solve everything. He just needed to know that everything was going to be okay.
@@Stew91 "Hugging Steven didn't solve everything"
Uh. The fuck it didnt? That hug basically said to the audience that anything can be solved by the power of love and friendship.
The thing is, is that they did it fucking horribly.
A hug should not have made Steven stop being the giant monster, and i know they only had 11 minutes, still. They could have made it 2 episodes.
You and E;R should do a crossover episode.
Unless you hate each other... Then you should definitely do it!
Freefork Absolutely. The Jew and the Madlad
@@SteveSmith-ty8ko Infinity war will be such a mediocre crossover after this!
it will end with youtube snapping the gauntlet to demonitize ez pz for having er on and er for yelling at a jewish person
@@nilktots6380 He gets monetized?
@@SteveSmith-ty8ko It would be EZ PZ vs. E;R
Me watching and enjoying the show-
(:
Me watching a rant video about how it's terrible immediately after- (:
Mood
I have a likeish-hate relationship with the show but I'm the kind of person who likes to watch random roasts of things for shits and giggles
hehe i found you
@@theycallmet3061 same with me. Except after Steven Universe Future I started to really hate it. Just because I don't think anyone who works on the show actually knows what ptsd is.
@@mahliwowe
Exactly.
I have it and it's not all sunshine and rainbows like this show makes it out to be,at all.
For example,three years ago thanks to someone I developed a fear of physical contact and abandonment. 1.5 years ago I met the people who helped me almost overcome it as a whole. But it doesn't work like *There you go,now your trauma is gone :D*
Even after I had learned to "Love again" like Spinel did it was very hard not to smack people away or be disgusted by hugs. I only went back to loving physical contact NOW,a year and a half later. And sometimes I still ask these people who literally carried me while I almost conked out "Are you sure you actually like me?"
You'll relapse and have ups and downs. It won't go away like that. You need to actually H E A L. Like y'know...With every illness?
(It does get way better though,I swear.)
At the end of the day Steven Universe talking his way to victory is just flat out boring and anti-climatic, could you imagine if that was how Goku defeated Frieza or Jotaro and Dio?
Bro SU fans don't even know who Dio is, they don't know what good shows look like
@@ozkan576 Well that's for sure
@@ozkan576 Sadly, some people who are SU fans make Gemsona AUs featuring the Stardust Crusaders and make crossover fanart..
@@cheesypoffs2438 Yikes.
@@ozkan576 I am a Steven Universe fan and I know who Dio is.
Nothing...
Dead silence...
*A N D S T E V E N*
Bighaverlegend 69 that part scared me.
it scared the fuck out of me
It was honestly the best part
im just mad because the whole concept of "gems" in steven universe is actually pretty interesting, and that there are a million missed opportunities. but yknow they just gotta throw in songs and representation and morals and other stuff, also STEVEN universe and kids show stuff so yeah.
like imagine if we got to see this show from homeworld gem's perspective, seeing space exploration and other aliens and possibly even other gem enemies (like another, enemy diamond authority) and shit like that.
Yeah the idea had tonnes of potential but they fucked it up
I don't even remember the last action cartoon I watched at this point, even bad anime just sweep those cool action away by this point
lol star trek: the next GEMeration
SicariusFlamus; I don’t know whether that pun makes me angry or amused, take a like nonetheless
I really don't understand why everyone is saying that "gems are interesting concept" when they are not. Genderless aliens is a barebone thing in sci-fi (robots, non-humanoids /sex-change /egg layers, higher beings, splitters, cosmic slimes, intellegent spores, etc), on the level of "aliens came to conquest us all". It's no different than any other concept. You can make it good or bad, but it's nowhere unique.
Steven is that one kid you want to bully even when you're not a bully
Nah that would take to much time alone, but what you should do is spread salacious lies and plant evidence on him to get him kicked out of school.
@@SpaceRaptor510 But who you gonna torture then?
@@AgentDanielCross People who associated with him
@@SpaceRaptor510 Fair dos
Early and often!
I really do not know how anyone can watch Steven universe without feeling deeply primally uncomfortable
RoadKill I mean I always feel uncomfortable when the diamonds were in the episodes I know why but i don’t want to say why.
@@ravensponsler9278 They made me uncomfortable both intentionally and unintentionally. Them commiting genocide and having powers such as mind control made them threatening villains, but I don't buy that they could be redeemed so easily. I would have preferred if they remained terrifying eldritch abominations and Steven learns that he can't always get through to people.
Bloodhound that’s not my reason honestly I don’t really care if there good or bad or both they … just made me feel uncomfortable because umm well umm there giants and if you’ve seen so Greg X diamond thing’s and seen how some are inappropriate. Especially when they were Steven in some scenes of episode made me feel really uncomfortable.
Not at first, cause it slowly sets in when you think about it. The longer you think about it the worst it gets, you stop watching the show and realize the existential horror that is steven universe hidden behind the veneer of happy colors and mediocre poppy music choices.
@@squashedshibber2684 I never actually noticed that the universe of Steven Universe is...strangely kind of Lovecraftian. Humans are constantly under the threat of a cosmic species that does have the power to eradicate humanity and the only thing stopping them from doing so is a fat kid and his three lesbian space rock mommies.
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@@gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090 I cri every night.
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The worst thing about the series ending is that the fanbase wiĺl go and taint another shows fanbase
SHIT Randy, you're right! TF we gonna do now??
@@smallpotatoes8230 Pray that they don't come leech off of anything else good- *sees Tranimal crossing* God dammit.
Y’all just watch Avatar the last airbender so much better 😌
Not legends of korra
Jellyrings gonan have to agree
Lol they had bad movie too and that is way worst than this one
i already watched avatar and sokka and zuko are my favorite
the jay crews show HEY that movie isn’t canon and the creators weren’t even part of it
34:24 i am upset that I actually thought that yellow Diamonds ear was that big
Ha!
After being disappointed by SU Future, this made my day.
Everything in the show is so rushed that the emotional outburts feel ridiculous
Finally someone having a similiar opinion to mine. I enjoy su casually. Su future was a let down, but i had hopes for the ending.... And it was also just meh.
@@ananaspryde5687 I kinda hoped Steven would actually learn to control his powers/emotions (kinda like in the smoky quartz episode), instead he just ran away. It was kinda underwhelming.
I liked the ending
I do agree that the build up was rushed and the climax was extremely rushed. However, I am glad that they decided to address a topic like PTSD and other mental health issues. I wish they handled it a bit better though.
I have PTSD and mental health issues
Especially whats going on now
When him and his dad fused I actually screamed
I remember when that first came out people were saying he's hot and e W that's a child with his dad
The shows creators came out when fusion was first introduced and said it was meant to be a metaphor for sex. You can't undo or unsay that, so why would you make Steven and his Dad fuse? You're either intentionally trying to confuse kids
Cierra Brown if you think that’s bad then you should see what he does to white diamond
@And I- Well, it is about relationships, but that DOESN'T deny that it is also about sex, but just between some Gems. Again, that doesn't erase that "sexual scenes" have happened in the show, leading to fusion, while others have had a relationship-kind of fusion. (22:10 Where EZ explains it in his words)
@And I- And of course, as because Steven imagines Greg being buff, that's what Greg shows through in the fusion, but that's also one of the creepy factors, his visual appearance and acting. Basically Greg is witnessing it.
Psycho clown gem- I'm gonna destroy the planet!
Steven- Dont do that!
Psycho clown gem- ok...
The End
When you put it like that, anything sounds dumb.
The Last of Us;
Ellie: I have a cure
Joel: Ok
Ellie: Okay
End
@@yoursexualizedgrandparents6929 well as mentioned the universe seems to do what ever Steven wants so why waste all this time being.....well......Steven.
@@MWH12085 I got your point, but it looked like you were mocking the formula rather than the subject.
@@yoursexualizedgrandparents6929 it was more geared towards the complete misuse of the formula.
'sounds like _Talk no Jutsu_
Tbh i feel like Garnet’s “truth” trigger was cause of how the revelation that Rose was Pink Diamond full on broke her; literally. Sapphire thought her and Ruby’s relationship was a lie, and therefore couldn’t see it as true love. But now, they can both be together because its how they truly feel about each other, without needing the “fake” validation from the person who taught them to love themselves- Rose taught them to never question themselves, to never question their love, but now Garnet can exist with the answer she needed to know: she’s the “true kinda love”.
Let’s say Steven was a normal human and not a gem and you pit him up against Hitler with his army I bet Steven would try to talk it out with Hitler
The show claims the gems aren’t women and that they’re genderless aliens that look and sound like women.
Which is technically true. Still designed as a representation, but they're genderless
@@MarkerMurker that's sounds really gay.
@@thedavid7241 Gay is one specific thing. They are not that one specific thing.
If they are genderless then explain white diamond
I actually wish they would’ve given the gems their own “decision” of their gender pronouns since they don’t have a sex. So if they feel comfortable with “he” take it. It basically sucks that there is no logic behind this
I agree with everything you said about Steven universe, that show went downhill so fast ever since the Pink diamond was rose quartz reveal. except for the fact that adults can't enjoy cartoons. Samurai Jack was made for kids in cartoon network and is one of the best TV shows for all ages
The ending though. Mmmmm I feel like it could've been different or better
Adults can't enjoy cartoons?
I’ll say that Steven Universe Future is WORSE! I wish it just ended with the 5th season and the movie as the epilogue instead of ruining the characters is idiotic and dumb stories that must have been written by an edgy tumblr artist who wanted to make their head cannon real cannon! And I’m saying this as a fan of the show!
no shit
Wiki Kansel glad we agree
Basically it had a good idea but poorly executed.And I am also a fan of the show.
Raheem Smith Yeah
@@judgmentalanimal Hi
I was hoping for 40 minutes of blackness
liq
I thought that would be the case too. I was however not hoping for it, because I don't like feeling trolled like that. I am happy it wasn't 40 min black screene. I don't hate SU (I don't say I like it either, I like aspects/episodes/some messages but not the whole show, it's a mixed bag for me.), but I like watching this type of videos just to see an another perspective. I found this channel because of Star vs (which is my number 15 favourite cartoon and at the time it was even higher on my list, but even I am aware it has a lot of flaws, especially now the last season, but I was curious about his points), I watched the rant and subscribed.
That would’ve of been better than the actual video
*38 minutes and 13 seconds
Ernesto Negron
You can go to Chicago for that.
EZ PZ closet Steven Universe Fan Confirmed he Just won’t stop talking about it
Lessons from Steven Universe:
Do whatever you want.
Never control your emotions.
Have sex with everyone you know.
Never reproduce.
Sounds like feminism
Yea because fusion is sex
These are life lessons that I’ll take to my grave (Just kidding, please don’t take this seriously.)
Projection
Projection
Projection
Projection.
@@Dellennickolis95 Ah, 'projection': the thinking man's way of saying, "I know you are, but what am I?"
i'd like to apologize to the my hero academia fandom for mistaking them as the worst fandom alive. (mha is still a toxic fandom just not as much as steven universe)
They're more horny than toxic lmao.
O5- • lol, especially the female teen fans...they ship more than pay attention to the plot
@@imhappy2373 bro the plot ain’t good, the show is mediocre at best
At least mha is decent
Me: wants to deradicalize people who believe in stuff like Nazi ideology
That one guy: "Steven universe has a really wholesome fandom."
Me: No no no
The only way to deradicalize a nazi..is with a bullet
I will never stop being radical.
I’m crying laughing at the thought process “maybe a positive fandom will de-radicalize the alt-right” as if there are any fandoms who aren’t at least as toxic
Ironically the best "fandoms" are the ones which are the most right-wing, such as W40k and /mlpol/
Zorro9129 there is no such thing as a “best fandom” they all suck to be honest
Imagine liking anything enough to join a fandom.
@@Zorro9129 wait didnt w40k make commentary on fascism
@@NERO_MYBAND Yeah MAAAAAN! Don't be a part of their SYSTEMS!!
Stephen and his dad merging is *so* cursed
The main reason why I hate Rebecca Sugar so much.
Spinel was the only character I actually liked from this franchise as a whole.
Too bad I needed to wait 10 years for her to show up.
I agree but i also really liked peridot. The only things is that they kind of forgot about peridot as an individual and now shes just part of a trio. Also they butchered Spinel in future 😔
I like all the characters
Not Peridot or Lapis? Honestly I think they were the only good characters after Garnet was reduced to "the character who talks about fusions" after season 1.
Before Spinel of course.
Then again I might only like Lapis because her depression clicks with me, and I'm a sucker for water power characters and dancer characters with a primarily blue design (my favorite Fire Emblem character is NINIAN of all people, you'd think it would be Azura but her game is awful and she is a wasted character).
Ehh, I think the best written character was Pearl to me. It felt so real because you do not recover from a trauma that lasted for11000 years.
(according to google pearl is 11000 years old and she was meant to serve the diamonds back from when she first was born so yeah)
I liked peridot a lot, mostly because of how she tried to murder steven and the gems
Great critique as always EZ but this doesn't excuse the fact you're Jewish
Being Jewish Isn't bad Jewish is the first form of christianity and Islam but humans corrupted it like they did to christianity
@Metsarebuff 22 r/deathtoallredditors
@@thatonedudethatremindsthet1575 r/I'm14andthatsdeep
@@thatonedudethatremindsthet1575 Lmao bruh.
I like Steven Universe. Its guilty plesure for me. But i have fun watching it and i like characters in it. But still i can agree with almost everything you said in your video and i enjoy watching it. Keep the good work. (Sorry for the bad english, i never was the best in it).
People tend to forget that one can like things even knowing they aren't objectively well done and vice versa.
"Yes, I sunk [the USS Liberty], and I WILL do it again."
this is why we love you EZ
You left out the part where the entire fanbase praises spinel as being the most deep thought provoking and lovable character when in reality she has less depth and likeability than the most poorly written anime yandere waifu. Seriously why do people like her? She's such an insufferable character.
I never got the hype with Spinel. She's just another copy paste character in this universe.
@@th3azscorpio cause she was abandoned people say thats why they relate to her... but i've seen way better characters with the same backstory. Even shadow the hedgehog as more depth.
@@squashedshibber2684 Not to mention, her whole thing with blowing up the planet with her injector; which held no stakes whatsoever. The writing in this show was just pure shit, no matter how you slice it.
@@TheGoldenPlatoon757 Lol thanks. I usually don't go too deep with examining this shows writing anymore, because the level of fury I get at the writers for completely fucking up the characters, especially Lapis.
I mean, I do like spinel, but I understand the hate surrounding her character: her symbolism, her justification, her place in the story. Steven Universe: The Movie was my first inclusion with the show and I didn't find it bad. As someone just entering the series I could understand a great amount of the world and backstories of most characters. Of course, having just gotten into the show and having not watched anything before suf, I didn't get much of the hate for Steven himself. It seems the main arguments going around are how "unrealistic" mental illness or redemption is portrayed in this show, and I do agree with some of them. Spinel threatened an entire planet and then was mostly forgiven for her actions, and then sent to the diamonds as a "coping method" for them, which really doesn't help spinel's trauma at all. Also goes to show a flaw in Steven's perfect character arc where he just let her be sent off. He didn't really forgive her, I mean he didn't instantly see her as a friend, which shows a small deal of hate hidden under that goodwill golly smile. I'd argue here that Spinel, although redeemed easily, wasn't really forgiven. Steven did the "talk it out" method, but as soon as the problem is resolved, he leaves her, TWICE. I think this is where Steven is first shown to have changed. The three gems in homeworld were kept around (I don't know the "because" part yet), probably because he liked them, but when it came to the diamonds and spinel, he was overjoyed to have them gone. That's a great deal of selfishness for a good guy, but his thoughts and actions are realistic here. I mean, his only thoughts were to get rid of the problem, but still keep up his ego to hide his darkness. That is dark, terrible, and goes to show the good guy isn't perfect, and I think he should have at least been punished for this. Damn this post is long. I meant to talk about Spinel here but then got into Steven XD.
The only thing that steven universe was missing for me was STAKES. Steven universe future while not infinitely better definitely is building up to some big STAKES involving previous events as PTSD. STAKES ARE GOOD STAKES ARE GOOD STAKE ARE GOOD STAKES ARE GOOD STAKES ARE GOD STAKES ARE GOOD STAKES ARE GOOD edit:STAKES ARE INDEED GOOD. Edit: it’s cool that folks understand and also BURGER
And tasty!
The stakes in the first series were that the planet was gonna get blown up though. Those were some high fuckin stakes, and that ended up being a really shit fuckin payoff.
Jason Thomas Yeah thats because high stakes aren’t what makes them good. When people are rooting for a relationship, the “will they, won’t they” are the stakes. Artificially bumping up stakes is something that amateur writers do because they can’t make people legitimately invested in their characters.
Borgor
The Steven Universe movie was like a direct-to-video Disney sequel that couldn't be released on VHS because nobody has a VCR anymore so in order to make some money off of it, they had to broadcast it.
I don't think that's an accurate comparison, the movie's writing was pretty bad but it's not unbearable.
Childhood
HEY!
That’s insulting The Lion King 2, and Cinderella 3: a Twist in Time!
"Mom, can we get seats in the *_S P L A S H Z O N E_* "
Yes
I'm not your mother, your lost child. I'll go get help.
i think what you said at 4:10 was really informative and i think everyone should give it a re-watch
Fuck you
@@pyropruductions1693 You should've seen this coming
Reading the replies I’m slightly worried about clicking the time stamp….. 🤔🤔🤔
I agree. Changed my life.
i swear if you do this again they will make you review the new season of the show.
Actions have consequences ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
There's a new season? I thought they wrapped up because people stopped watching the show.
@@technoruffles7747 They released an epilogue series which focuses on Steven having mental trauma from all the stuff that happens in the show, and no they didn't end it because people stopped watching, the community is very alive.
My favorite Israeli accent having UA-camr back with a banger
Finally he's returned to us our lord and master EZ
Mß technically sounds like Mrs
12:00: That's a pretty gross and sexist thing to say. Aren't you the people who think that toxic masculinity is fake?
Kids stopped watching the show years ago
I haven't met a single child who likes Steven Universe all the Steven Universe fans I've come across are adults and it's my personal theory that it wasn't even intended for children to begin with.
@@pinkdiamond1847 Same, my family has a lot of young kids and not a single one of them actually cares about this show.
HadouKeyblade Yeah all the kids in my family want to watch Adventure Time and The Amazing World of Gumball and Teen Titans Go but they change the channel when Steven Universe comes on. I once asked my niece (she's 10) if she likes Steven Universe and she told me she finds it boring. That just supports my theory that Steven Universe was never made for 6-11 year olds and was in fact made for childish adults.
If you watch the pilot it looks like it would feel a lot more at home on adult swim and I think that's what it was intended for but whoever green lit it decided that it would be more at home on their kids block and I'm guessing that's why the animation for the final product was made to look cuter as well.
The show is more directed towards Teens and Young Adults than kids.
Johnny Joestar It claims to be aimed at 6-11 year olds but like I said I don't know a single child under 13 who likes this show the youngest Steven Universe fan I know is 13 (my friends little brother) and I don't think it was ever intended for children and if Cartoon Network could let the writers have the freedom to do what they want instead of trying to make it kid friendly it would probably make a much better show.
I might be wrong though.
*3 things occurred to me watching this.*
1. _Steven Universe_ is a show that would be better if *everything* was taken at face value with no faulty metaphors. And better written in general.
2. How on sweet Holy Terra is "survivors of other Gem colonies take revenge" *not* the plot of this movie? I would watch the heck out of that! I'm imagining macho metal men who can shatter gems with their ultra-pecs.
3. Ooooooo, your use of SimCity 4 music makes me smile, my man.
Yeah the women/ not actually women and fusion is sex / fusions not actually sex stuff is annoying and confusing. It makes it hard to get invested in it.
@@mahliwowe I'm with you there.👍 I get the impression that they didn't think the "genderless gems" thing all the way through. If they just said _they're all female,_ it wouldn't be a big deal, considering we've had media that loads of people like with female-centric casts before. That and the Gems are a species that reproduce by plunging large "Injectors" into the surface of a world to give life to new Gems. Hmm...
Oooohhhh good grief, *Fusion* is so poorly conceived and creates _so many unfortunate implications_ that it actually put me off the show. I know they tried to backpedal on it and say it's 'harmony in any relationship', but like it or not they established it as "sex" early on - with rather on-the-nose imagery, might I add - and that's not something you'd forget.
*Stevonnie and Steg* are probably the most disturbing examples considering that knowledge. 😨
@@DoctorInk20 not to mention they recently stated Peridot was asexual because she didn't fuse. But none of the gems have genitalia so they are all asexual. Ugh it makes me uncomfortable. I've never watched a kids cartoon where I had to work out the logic of a characters sexuality and genitals to understand it. Especially with Stevonnie and Steg like you said 🙃
@@mahliwowe @Mahli Wowe That's another good point you've made. This is supposed to be _a children's show, ages 8-11..._ yet the audience chiefly seems to be teens and college students. It's no surprise merch didn't sell well. XD
Ah, _Peridot._ The one good character. Two things with her: 1. She, like other Homeworld Gems, should have been used to contrast against the Crystal Gems more, just to show how rigid, regimented and uptight the Homeworld truly is. That is, if the CGs didn't act pretty weird and alien to begin with and were actually integrated into human society.
2. That statement you mentioned basically says to me, "Hey if you're uncomfortable with being in a threesome your first time, there's a problem with you!" Which is not something you want in a children's show! Like you say, drawing a flowchart for character sexualities is not a priority. XD
Sweet Threepwood's beard, my brain breaks down thinking about! XD Nobody thought this through! If they took out the sex bit and just made it a cool superpower (that has other applications), it'd be fine! We'd all be comfortable and enjoying ourselves, but we can't!
Not gonna lie, I've been writing my own analysis of SU and how I'd rewrite the whole thing to make it work and this conversation helped me to flesh out the "Fusion" aspect. So thank you. XD
@@DoctorInk20 When you're finished writing it I'd love to read it. I used to love the show, but honestly after Future I realized how awful it really was. So I love watching and reading stuff that trashes it.
Edit: or fix it lmao
I got an advertisement before this video saying, "sTeVeN uNiVeRsE iS oNe oF tHe bEsT sHoWs oUt tHeRe" from JTV
I mean talking about abandonment issues is a good concept to give to children so they can be mindful of peers. A lot of kids suffer from it.
Also her reacting with abandonment by Steven could be subconscious reaction, buuut her singing about her past yeah that's inexcusable
Can you do Star Vs season 4 you know the one where star genocided a group of people for no good reason.
@Frncs Trjn Yeah and they treat it like a good thing and a heroic sacrifice.
We dont talk about this
The Chad EZ PZ vs the Virgin Steven Universe fandom.
This is what happens when you leave the GEMS to control our entertainment. Right EZ PZ?
There's a reason they were kicked out of 109 planets
@Super Hans Antigemitism*
Ooooo weeeee being antisotomite is coooowell.
The Diamonds: **exist**
Hitler and Mussolini: *Allow us to introduce ourselves*
Are we not gonna bring up the fact that Spinel is a gay discount of Luffy?
Luffy is insulted
who the fuck is luffy?
@@mckenzie.latham91 one piece
@@mckenzie.latham91 Protagonist of an anime called one piece
@@mckenzie.latham91 Overwatch pro player that used to play for Shanghai Dragons
The evil is defeated
💪😔
So my Futanari idea didn't made into a video
that is sad
What was your idea, friendo?
K-Blue 3rd word of OP
@@Theevil6ify "Something about Futa and a lot of Earrape"
"really wholesome fandom"
that same fandom tried to bully a child dying of cancer because he used his make a wish wish to watch the episodes early...I feel bad for that child, knowing one of his last thoughts was probably "Why does everyone hate me, I only wanted to watch a few episodes"
*[I think it's because of the lack of Peridot]*
Peridot is why season one and three are so good tbh.
24:54 I think I’m actually someone who the show is for, which is a little odd since I love it when you criticize the show. I watched the show when I was 11 and it was released but as I got older I got attached to the show (probably due to nostalgia). I still notice the problems with the show (which makes it fun to listen to you bash it) but I still enjoy the show regardless. Don’t worry I do not support the fan base or the writers beliefs or certain messages that don’t make sense.Thanks EZ PZ! Also do you have any good recommendations for some good shows I can watch?
My profile pic is a good hint
@Grungus Khan Yeah I'll admit that is wasn't as great as we hoped for. But episode two was pretty good
From the moment everything was black at 2:09 I knew to lower down my volume. And I was not disappointed.
Thanks for the warning!
Krenjura You’re welcome
Once it went black for a few seconds I started scrolling through the comments to see if the video was 40min of black screen. After reading this comment I dropped the volume a bunch and the MOMENT I thought I found a suitable volume the jump scare happened. So thanks for the heads up man you saved my ears
Thank you for warning us. I was worried the whole time it was black.
Aaron Ross You’re welcome
Stephen Universe is a show that pretends it's for kids that's actually for adults who pretend they're kids.
Steven*
@@mrnnc6805 no
@@Plum1300 that’s how it’s spelled
Hopefully the SU fandom will die, not in the quick and easy way but in the slow motion car crash kinda way
ClinicalSavage as every fandom does.
Well the show is over soooo
You call fusion “gem sex” and Ruby a “he” intentionally to piss the fans off don’t you?
Giulia CF I mean, he pisses of a lot of people from all walks of life.
The real trick is wether he is doing it with purpose of if he naturally exudes that “dickishness” factor.
no..he doesn't because since both of ya'll are *so* triggered to realize that ruby *is* a man :') so ruby and sapphire are a straight couple.
@@LolitaLaceCotton lmao nice
@@LolitaLaceCotton reeeeeeeee
@@theshockinglyeloquentdog9945 weeeè eli xje Ken cjdhdid
I have made a mistake suggesting it. Didn't think I'd win.
13:02 THANK YOU!!!! I remember stopping to think before realizing that they could've done a shit ton more with Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune, or any other planet in our solar system that's not Mars or Mercury with MUCH LESS EFFORT AND FOR MORE RESOURCES! But in terms of their armies I belive its to keep their subjects in check along with concurring worlds with living beings on them such as Earth