I’ve been saying his for years. Because just before she apparently died, there was a massive push to get her released. Then when that didn’t happen because public outrage, all of a sudden she died. A little bit sus if you ask me.
@@SuzanneNaylor-z9hthis is what is suspicious to me. Why would they even allow this to happen…it’s disgraceful…but it sure would cover up a different story wouldn’t it…
It's an unsettling thought but, for whatever reason, I felt Very sceptical when I heard she'd died. With the European Court of Human rights getting involved and with the fact she had been a model prisoner and incarcerated for decades no longer being seen as a threat to the public , in cold legal terms she was entitled to parole. I really do wonder if she was released with a new appearance and identity . How horrified and sickened people would be if they knew she was living amongst them without their knowledge. A possibility? Yes, I believe so.
It was said that the prison officer tried to release her that prison officer had a relationship with her had keys cut, for her but as it happened the authorities found out nice try but she was caught out in advance & sent to jail. Only Hindleys ashes were released.
The Coffin being empty definitely rings true to me. My Grandma was tiny when she passed in her 90s, but it felt heavy to me as one of six, and at that time, I was working a physical warehouse job and used to heavy lifting.
It would be a bit incompetent if they didn't put a bit of weight in the coffin to make it realistic. ( the bearers would know if there was a body in there or are they in with it ?) In TV and films, people with rucksacks and cases never have anything heavy in them !
I always thought that she was released so its interesting to me to see this vid. But remember she may have spent 36 years inside, she's going to spend eternity in hell.
She was released she had gone to the European Court of human rights and its believed she would have won due her time spent over the 30yrs given! Never believed she died
@@rachelbarber533 a convoluted legal process involving judges lawyers secretaries someone to create and register the new identity a court docket application for hearing filings way too many people who would sell the secret to the papers for huge money it doesn’t track not realistic everyone remained silent. And continued silence would indicate she remains alive I just don’t see it happening
@@paullogan5240 One of James Bulger's killers is living anonymously somewhere. As is Mary Bell. I'm sure it could be done and anyone spilling the beans prosecuted.
I haven’t watched the video as I plan to watch later.I read a report a few years ago that a witness positively identified her in a public area. She said it was unmistakably her.
I heard Myra had cancer & the staff made her wait for pain medication so she was in agony. Seems reasonable. My question is, who the hell purchased the flowers on top of the coffin?
I would not be surprised at all, if she was living a lovely wee life, protected by her 'fans' and no doubt funded by us all! I also didn't know about the brother having the police set on him. That's disgusting,!!! Although, why I'm shocked by anything our justice system does is anyone's guess!
She died in hospital in 2002, she was a chain-smoker, also suffered from angina and osteoporosis. Ultimately died from respiratory failure. Do keep up!
Would be interesting to hear your thoughts on the letsby case of which defence witness were not allowed and why would she suddenly start killing babies after 10 years of exemplary service and care Doc malik had a podcast about this case with an ex nurse last year and I fact checked what I learned and it was corroborated by numerous sources Remember that it is far cheaper to run a murder trial than a negligence case x victims
The coffin does look light. Anyone carrying one needs very careful balance and you're usually too afraid to take your other hand off it too, even if you stop for a moment. Neither of them have their other arm up / hand holding it. Sadly I do believe she may have been released and protected. The best way of doing so by announcing her death. Where are the photos of her at almost 8 stone? I've been reading a lot about this case recently and some beliefs about David Smith having a larger role than anyone knew. Yes he brought them to an end but I've always felt others may have been helping them from time to time. I have no doubt Brady and Hindley had trips away to other parts of the UK and are responsible for other disappearances away from home that we will never know about.
That's interesting. Anyone who has witness a coffin being carried or has done so, knows just how heavy and precarious it is. I am also intrigued by the link between J Saville and Brady and Hindley. They met at a club in Leeds area way back in the 60s. It just makes you wonder.
Also, there was that theory about U.S. gangster, Dillinger not really being killed by the police in a shootout. I think the idea was the police did a deal where he stopped his criminal actions, and perhaps left the country, and the police fake a shootout and present a dead baddie and get the glory.
They absolutley did fake her death…. I used to go with a woman who worked in a secure mental hospital,, an she told me 1st hand that myra hindley was released an given a new identity as it would have caused uproar…. But its good to see this kind of video, cos iv knew this info for years
@@Mumofthe3Tsshe didnt,, but she knew a nurse who worked in the hospital,, who was a nurse at the prison they released myra hindley from…. She told me they planned it all so no-body would kick off….
I always thought that she was relased they gave her plastic surgery to change her appearance she was due out December 2002 but suddenly died everyone who had funeral planned on the day of her funeral cancelled as she was hated that much people would not even Bury their loved ones on the same day so they couldn't let the public know of release because she would be hunted forever 😢she should never be free
I believe she was released. I heard rumours that she was released many years before that because we were in the EU at that around the laws were different. Eleven years ago my son saw her in a charity shop he worked in ,in st Austell. Mentioning tjis to an acqaintence, she said MH had been seen in a lot of the local towns surrounding Redruth etc. I slways beleived her funeral was a set up.
ive thought she was secretly released for years.....sick Government, sick system seem to love letting these child abusers and murderers loose on the streets
I remember where I was when it was announced Myra Hindley had 'died'. I was in the fenton Woodhouse lane in Leeds, The old BBC Broadca$ting House used to be opposite. One night Christa Ackroyd, Harry Grat-Iron, and their researcher came in. I got the massage that M H was dead, I shouted 'Myra Hindley is F*ck*ng dead - YEEEEES!!! The researcher cast her eyes heavenwards, they must have known for hours, now the riff raff knew! The lass who told me, added that;' She probably isn't really dead, they have faked it so she can get a release under another identity!' HOABL
both my mother and father had only 4 pall bearers each, its quite common. my father was carried by my son my husband brother in law and a cousin, my mother by bearers from the funeral company but still just the 4. so I wouldn't pick on that as evidence of anything. my father carried by family members weighed more than Myra and none of our men looked to be struggling although they did all comment afterwards that it was heavy.
If Myra is out she will be what if still alive 82 years of age its possible but l hope she was never released but who knows goverments these days l don't trust any of them or our laws anymore riddled with corruption. In my opinion sad,sad, really our beautiful country gone
I was born in the late 50s and was told not to speak to strangers (I lived in,a village in Scotland and nobody was a complete stranger but, there were some people who I found strange and kept away from and other than that it was outsiders we were really wary of) as I remember it, we were warned against women and men. By the time the 60s ended I was 12 and knew to keep away from outsiders and people who had that weird vibe. I think the Moors murders influenced most kids as my mum was horrified by them. I think because there had been kids killed locally by a female killer (in my mum's lifetime) we were warned against anyone strange as opposed to just men.
I remember this at the time. There were rumours of her being paroled and then it was publicly derided. All of a sudden she gets sick and dies. I didn't buy it. My instant thought was that she was released.
The coffin shown isa regular one. The weights quoted are for the large American Casket type coffins. These require six pall bearers and a double sized grave hole. The regular coffins as shown in the image are often carried by four pall bearers. When you attend the funeral director to make arrangements for your loved one’s funeral they tell you this. A funeral involving an American casket will work out at double the price.
I found this very interesting, this channel is amazing. I work in search and rescue and am very impressed at your past videos with the Nicola bully case.
I lived in the area of Highpoint prison and Edmonds Hill and my best friend who worked at the undertakers in the area was offered the job of her funeral. They turned it down as it many many in the area and in the end it was outsourced and it took place at Cambridge crematorium, which then had to change the cremator as nobody, would be cremated in the same she was
@Breaktheice123 u do know there was someone else involved in this .And i think that was the key to her walking outside and the ashes where they went .
I've no clue if she was released or died but if she did die then, why would they bother giving her a nice casket and flowers? Is that what happens with other prisoners who die in jail and have no one to bury them? Don't they just get collected in an undertakers van and taken to the crematorium?
This isn't a theory I'd heard of before now. It's definitely a head scratcher. Cracking video on the subject. Have yourself a sub 👍 As a funeral arranger, I can confirm that four pallbearers is often the norm. The Funeral Director will decide depending on the weight of the deceased and the casket. Some take four, others need six. That's not to say that her coffin still wasn't empty, though. Great insight, nice one 😃🙏
I always believed that she had died but with the picture of that coffin it's impossible for just four men to carry it and they look like they are carrying it with ease.
Interestingly, sarah trevelyn who was on that show, speaking up for her, changed her mind when her ex husband, Jimmy Boyle, convinced her as an ex con himself, “she’s not telling the whole truth”.
Nothing would surprise me, but the story of the nurse begs the question, if it was MH why didn't she front it out by saying, don't be ridiculous these are my details, showing her new identity?
@user-xs1yx9tc9m Back in 2002 I doubt her pictures from 2000 were flying around online bare on mind a lot less people actually did go online back then, the newspapers always used her mugshot photo from the 60s well still do and a couple from the 70s. If you look hard enough you'll see how frail she looked in her 2000 photo, the one which she is being taken to hospital.
@@adrianparker-e9f I very much doubt that,the prison governor took Myra to Hampstead Heath for a walk and it became public knowledge and of course people went mad, there is no way she was let out,someone would have leaked that information and there was a mole that kept the newspapers very well informed. Even with a new identity, someone in the police or prison service would have leaked that information, the identity and whereabouts of Jon venables has been repeatedly leaked, you always have people who do not agree with release from prison. The safest place for Myra was prison and deep down she knew that herself. There were times when she was released from prison to attend hospital, you’ll find pictures online of her going to one dated 1994, she had very poor health and even if she was released she wouldn’t have been alive very long and that’s not including people who wanted to get her.
So is the idea that those in power have the notion that they have to 'give wrongdoers the chance to redeem themselves' and 'given a chance' but the public wouldn't accept it ?
I think if you had truly reformed and 'found' God, you would say 'I have done terrible things and deserve to be punished, I should die in prison, God save my soul'. Then I might believe you.
It definitely could be true there would of been to much outcry over her release and giving the sentencing in the uk im surprised she even served that much time
I reakon MH is dead. That coffin was a decoy for public to see a funeral taking place, so public can keep MH buried into the crime books from now on, and also just incase that coffin could be targeted for attack, Her body was moved off elsewhere for discreet cremation. It does seem possible shes out, but that woman was spotted by a nurse may have the unfortunate resemblance of MH looks, quite rightly gets upset when its mentioned. Personally, i dont think she was released. Public uproar if she was actually identified and her life at stake. She would have been a prisoner in her own home. Whats the point of being released from one to then hide in a one of your own making for safety.
I have written to many SKs and collect SK murderabillia but would never want anything from Brady or Hindley in my home, I feel the same about Gacy. Truely evil.
I think it’s definitely possible she was released and given a new identity because there was a fascination with her by a bunch of wealthy people, also if you know about her time in jail and how so much time and effort was made for her and the prison officer who worked at a men’s prison got sent to visit her on weekends and he arrived once to find her holding a baby in her arms at some sort of prison party day event she was holding another woman inmates baby in her arms, the idea that upon getting to a prison you could find a child killer inmate holding a baby of another inmate is way more harder to believe than that of the child killer being secretly released without the public knowing and given a new identity i think, So yes i believe her holding the other inmates child really happened and i can believe she was quietly released and i think they were fascinated by her the powers that be were and excited by her and wanted to do a lot of research with her on her, I mean she was having relationships with people in the prison and people working for the prison system i think a student of psychology that was working at the prison was having a relationship with her I think her name was Nina
When I saw Hindley hearse going down the motorway I just immediately thought that coffins empty how often do you see prisoners on the way to the crem on the news? Never
I think there is elements of truth in her being released, but I don’t believe the story. I had heard about it, but I think it was in one of the junk tabloids and ‘a nurse’ no names attribution etc. If, and I believe it’s possible, she was released, she would almost certainly not be in the UK. Most likely Australia or somewhere like that, having her walking around in the UK would be far too unsafe for her and us.
Course she was let out If you spend any time in a womens jail and you meet someone whose been in a loooong time they will tell you she was let out not died
There were.only 4 bearers in my grandfathers funeral and he was 16 stone. Also only 4 on my uncles funeral too, so I know for a fact that there can be just 4 pall bearers. But I do think she could of been released
I've often wondered about this with other people, and also, in some cases if someone actually went in prison. For example, that Floyd George case where the policeman is convicted. They couldn't have a verdict other than guilty, but if the establishment couldn't cover up the crime they could 'pretend' that he was in prison.( Of course that is just a thought. If the police etc. wanted to infiltrate criminal operations, an undercover agent may have to go through the process of conviction and imprisonment to provide a realistic cover, without serving the sentence !)
I’ve got a story about Hindley that has never been heard publicly before. If you want to hear it contact me (it’s an incident that I was personally involved in)
Luke i love your channel and I check every day to see if you have put any content on i hope you are going to be more frequent now please i am interested in your subjects you cover 😊
Wow 😯 great video. Her face no matter her age was always so recognisable. That big angular head and the location she was allegedly spotted. All very interesting!!!
It seems to me a major condition of parole would be to reveal where the final missing child was buried on the moors in order to be given a proper burial. Given this never happened such a deal with the devil would not happen without the location of the (was it the Kilbride boy who was never recovered) last missing victim so I dont believe it. Another massive condition of parole is admitting your crimes before the parole board. Aslong as she continues to maintain her innocence negates any possibility of parole. Also too many people would have to be involved in the coverup for it to not leak eventually by someone involved who had a conscience
@@gutz323 thanks for the correction I couldn’t recall the name when I posted and you usually receive a barrage of abuse when you post something and get a detail incorrect in jump the trolls so thanks for the mature reply, a refreshing change. My point though I feel is correct otherwise 👍
@@paullogan5240 no problem! I know the feeling, when people can't wait to jump on you for a little mistake or incorrection. Also you wasn't wrong anyway! You asked the question "was it the Kilbride boy who was never recovered?" I just simply answered your question. Have a good day! ☺
Good vid, very sad circumstances and good folks hearts go out to the families of these children taken. They walk with Christ and been saved any further pain from the evil and deceptions of this Earth. Hindley will be or has been dealt with by the same hand that took those children up will cast her into the fiery pit of eternal damnation. A monster as Hindley was would never find peace and salvation in Jesus - as she would never admit her sin. I’d suggest that seeking out the nurse for interview coupled with investigating the Nunnery. Her connection with ‘finding God’ coupled with the Priest I’d suggest is the most likely place she would have been found!
Could you luke and ron try and track down all the people who have believed to have encountered her and interview them maybe if they are still alive and well etc
If this is true it is very unlikely that the pallbearers would be in on it, maybe try tracing them and see what their reaction is to questions, are they gagged?
There was enormous security around her corpse, until she was cremated. I don’t think the Uk prison service would go to the bother of assisting her release.
I don't think the government would have released her, I mean how would it benefit them? It would be a nightmare to pull off and the public outcry would be unbelievable. I don't believe it for a minute
Go and find the Nurse who saw her and see if she will do an interview on or off camera. That would be a great video x
If she had recorded this copper conversation- that would have been perfect
Of course, the mainstream never lie?
@@sharpeipink123 I will try my best to
I’ve been saying his for years. Because just before she apparently died, there was a massive push to get her released. Then when that didn’t happen because public outrage, all of a sudden she died. A little bit sus if you ask me.
@@Curiosityuk lights went out skeleton staff on
Come on she was let out
wow, her ashes should never have been allowed to be scattered on the moors where those poor innocent children were and had been x
They weren’t scattered on the moors, they were scattered at stalybridge park.
@@murdered33 ooh i see thank you
@@SuzanneNaylor-z9hthis is what is suspicious to me. Why would they even allow this to happen…it’s disgraceful…but it sure would cover up a different story wouldn’t it…
No they were scattered on the moors I remember a newspaper printing a map of where she was scattered@@murdered33
I’m so sorry for the loss of your Nan. May she Rest In Peace. Surely she is beaming with pride over your success. Stay safe! Xo!
It's an unsettling thought but, for whatever reason, I felt Very sceptical when I heard she'd died. With the European Court of Human rights getting involved and with the fact she had been a model prisoner and incarcerated for decades no longer being seen as a threat to the public , in cold legal terms she was entitled to parole.
I really do wonder if she was released with a new appearance and identity . How horrified and sickened people would be if they knew she was living amongst them without their knowledge. A possibility? Yes, I believe so.
@dianesilva, 💯
It was said that the prison officer tried to release her that prison officer had a relationship with her had keys cut, for her but as it happened the authorities found out nice try but she was caught out in advance & sent to jail. Only Hindleys ashes were released.
The Coffin being empty definitely rings true to me. My Grandma was tiny when she passed in her 90s, but it felt heavy to me as one of six, and at that time, I was working a physical warehouse job and used to heavy lifting.
These rumours have been floating around for years, but looking at the coffin [which was almost levitating] was a huge red flag for me. Well done.
It would be a bit incompetent if they didn't put a bit of weight in the coffin to make it realistic. ( the bearers would know if there was a body in there or are they in with it ?) In TV and films, people with rucksacks and cases never have anything heavy in them !
She died on the same day that Children in Need went out. What a gift for the Children.
Very interesting to watch. Presented really well. There is so much we don’t know and things hidden. Fascinating, thanks Luke
Still a lot we don’t know, the police know though, but it was deemed to shocking at the time to be released.
I always thought that she was released so its interesting to me to see this vid. But remember she may have spent 36 years inside, she's going to spend eternity in hell.
She was released she had gone to the European Court of human rights and its believed she would have won due her time spent over the 30yrs given! Never believed she died
She served longer than was originally set but the public outcry was too strong that’s why this theory has legs IMO
I do believe the person who saw her after she was meant to have died. Any chance of tracking them down?
thank you some one with sense
@@rachelbarber533 a convoluted legal process involving judges lawyers secretaries someone to create and register the new identity a court docket application for hearing filings way too many people who would sell the secret to the papers for huge money it doesn’t track not realistic everyone remained silent. And continued silence would indicate she remains alive I just don’t see it happening
@@paullogan5240 One of James Bulger's killers is living anonymously somewhere. As is Mary Bell. I'm sure it could be done and anyone spilling the beans prosecuted.
Nothing would surprise me these days...
The mere fact of the nurse/police interaction speaks for itself.
I haven’t watched the video as I plan to watch later.I read a report a few years ago that a witness positively identified her in a public area. She said it was unmistakably her.
I heard Myra had cancer & the staff made her wait for pain medication so she was in agony. Seems reasonable. My question is, who the hell purchased the flowers on top of the coffin?
Probably our tax money
you was lied to
Don't forget she had a sister called moreen
I would not be surprised at all, if she was living a lovely wee life, protected by her 'fans' and no doubt funded by us all!
I also didn't know about the brother having the police set on him. That's disgusting,!!! Although, why I'm shocked by anything our justice system does is anyone's guess!
She died in hospital in 2002, she was a chain-smoker, also suffered from angina and osteoporosis.
Ultimately died from respiratory failure.
Do keep up!
@@woowah32 😂😂😂 Ew, shilling for evil
@@harryandglitch What?!🤡🤷🏻♂️🤣
@@woowah32Believe everything you see and hear do you. Pff.
@@helenworrall8273 🤣So, let me get this straight.. you’re telling me you believe Hindley is still alive?
I've heard this before and it's very hard to believe but ... This country doesn't surprise me! It's a possibility
Would be interesting to hear your thoughts on the letsby case of which defence witness were not allowed and why would she suddenly start killing babies after 10 years of exemplary service and care
Doc malik had a podcast about this case with an ex nurse last year and I fact checked what I learned and it was corroborated by numerous sources
Remember that it is far cheaper to run a murder trial than a negligence case x victims
Despicable if she was released without reveling the location of the last burial sites
The coffin does look light. Anyone carrying one needs very careful balance and you're usually too afraid to take your other hand off it too, even if you stop for a moment. Neither of them have their other arm up / hand holding it.
Sadly I do believe she may have been released and protected. The best way of doing so by announcing her death. Where are the photos of her at almost 8 stone?
I've been reading a lot about this case recently and some beliefs about David Smith having a larger role than anyone knew. Yes he brought them to an end but I've always felt others may have been helping them from time to time. I have no doubt Brady and Hindley had trips away to other parts of the UK and are responsible for other disappearances away from home that we will never know about.
That's interesting. Anyone who has witness a coffin being carried or has done so, knows just how heavy and precarious it is. I am also intrigued by the link between J Saville and Brady and Hindley. They met at a club in Leeds area way back in the 60s. It just makes you wonder.
Also, there was that theory about U.S. gangster, Dillinger not really being killed by the police in a shootout. I think the idea was the police did a deal where he stopped his criminal actions, and perhaps left the country, and the police fake a shootout and present a dead baddie and get the glory.
They absolutley did fake her death…. I used to go with a woman who worked in a secure mental hospital,, an she told me 1st hand that myra hindley was released an given a new identity as it would have caused uproar…. But its good to see this kind of video, cos iv knew this info for years
@@JimmySully wow
How did she know Myra Hindley personally?
You wrote worked instead of was
No !!! She worked in the hospital…. You do know what “staff” are dont you?? !!!
@@Mumofthe3Tsshe didnt,, but she knew a nurse who worked in the hospital,, who was a nurse at the prison they released myra hindley from…. She told me they planned it all so no-body would kick off….
There is one person who would know, Linda Calvey (cell mate and close friend who was released in 2008)
I always thought that she was relased they gave her plastic surgery to change her appearance she was due out December 2002 but suddenly died everyone who had funeral planned on the day of her funeral cancelled as she was hated that much people would not even Bury their loved ones on the same day so they couldn't let the public know of release because she would be hunted forever 😢she should never be free
No love she’s dead, the families were reassured at the time that she was dead.
😂Keep on taking your meds 👍🏻
The woman chain smoked for 36 years, also suffered from angina and osteoporosis.
I've asked myself loads of times did she get released, i strongly believe there's a case she was released.
I believe she was released. I heard rumours that she was released many years before that because we were in the EU at that around the laws were different. Eleven years ago my son saw her in a charity shop he worked in ,in st Austell. Mentioning tjis to an acqaintence, she said MH had been seen in a lot of the local towns surrounding Redruth etc. I slways beleived her funeral was a set up.
ive thought she was secretly released for years.....sick Government, sick system seem to love letting these child abusers and murderers loose on the streets
I remember where I was when it was announced Myra Hindley had 'died'.
I was in the fenton Woodhouse lane in Leeds, The old BBC Broadca$ting House used to be opposite. One night Christa Ackroyd, Harry Grat-Iron, and their researcher came in. I got the massage that M H was dead, I shouted 'Myra Hindley is F*ck*ng dead - YEEEEES!!!
The researcher cast her eyes heavenwards, they must have known for hours, now the riff raff knew!
The lass who told me, added that;' She probably isn't really dead, they have faked it so she can get a release under another identity!'
HOABL
both my mother and father had only 4 pall bearers each, its quite common. my father was carried by my son my husband brother in law and a cousin, my mother by bearers from the funeral company but still just the 4. so I wouldn't pick on that as evidence of anything. my father carried by family members weighed more than Myra and none of our men looked to be struggling although they did all comment afterwards that it was heavy.
If Myra is out she will be what if still alive 82 years of age its possible but l hope she was never released but who knows goverments these days l don't trust any of them or our laws anymore riddled with corruption. In my opinion sad,sad, really our beautiful country gone
She was Never going to be released she died in prison not in hospital
I heard a story that she used to be taken out on shopping trips from the prison.
I was born in the late 50s and was told not to speak to strangers (I lived in,a village in Scotland and nobody was a complete stranger but, there were some people who I found strange and kept away from and other than that it was outsiders we were really wary of) as I remember it, we were warned against women and men. By the time the 60s ended I was 12 and knew to keep away from outsiders and people who had that weird vibe. I think the Moors murders influenced most kids as my mum was horrified by them. I think because there had been kids killed locally by a female killer (in my mum's lifetime) we were warned against anyone strange as opposed to just men.
I remember this at the time. There were rumours of her being paroled and then it was publicly derided.
All of a sudden she gets sick and dies. I didn't buy it. My instant thought was that she was released.
The coffin shown isa regular one. The weights quoted are for the large American Casket type coffins. These require six pall bearers and a double sized grave hole. The regular coffins as shown in the image are often carried by four pall bearers. When you attend the funeral director to make arrangements for your loved one’s funeral they tell you this. A funeral involving an American casket will work out at double the price.
I found this very interesting, this channel is amazing. I work in search and rescue and am very impressed at your past videos with the Nicola bully case.
I never believed she died when they said.
Speak to staff that worked at WSH During that timeline.
My mum was a ward sister and she knew Hindley died there.
I was a pallbearer for a loved one several years ago. I was one of 2 female pallbearers. I can vouch that a coffin is extremely heavy and cumbersome
I lived in the area of Highpoint prison and Edmonds Hill and my best friend who worked at the undertakers in the area was offered the job of her funeral. They turned it down as it many many in the area and in the end it was outsourced and it took place at Cambridge crematorium, which then had to change the cremator as nobody, would be cremated in the same she was
Can’t imagine Myra bursting into tears sounds far fetched
She was all about herself…the tears may of been through the fear of being caught and then the risk to her life
@@Breaktheice123 highly doubtful.
@Breaktheice123 u do know there was someone else involved in this .And i think that was the key to her walking outside and the ashes where they went .
I've no clue if she was released or died but if she did die then, why would they bother giving her a nice casket and flowers? Is that what happens with other prisoners who die in jail and have no one to bury them? Don't they just get collected in an undertakers van and taken to the crematorium?
I carried my aunties coffin and she was only about 6 stone at her death and it was a lot heavier than i thought it was gona be, so i agree with you
Very interesting intel Luke! Great video.
This isn't a theory I'd heard of before now. It's definitely a head scratcher. Cracking video on the subject. Have yourself a sub 👍
As a funeral arranger, I can confirm that four pallbearers is often the norm. The Funeral Director will decide depending on the weight of the deceased and the casket. Some take four, others need six.
That's not to say that her coffin still wasn't empty, though. Great insight, nice one 😃🙏
@@justliam2768 appreciate the nice comment and the insight on the casket
Cheers for subbing too
It's not fair to call her Britain's most hated woman when we all know That Rachel Markle is The most hated woman in British history
@@Motormouthbone silly comment
@Breaktheice123 How is it! Everyone knows Rachel, 80-90 percent of people have no idea who Myra was!!
Who is Rachel Markle?
@@Ligerpride Really????
I always believed that she had died but with the picture of that coffin it's impossible for just four men to carry it and they look like they are carrying it with ease.
Interestingly, sarah trevelyn who was on that show, speaking up for her, changed her mind when her ex husband, Jimmy Boyle, convinced her as an ex con himself, “she’s not telling the whole truth”.
She was seen in mid Cornwall about 10 years ago by many people.
Nothing would surprise me, but the story of the nurse begs the question, if it was MH why didn't she front it out by saying, don't be ridiculous these are my details, showing her new identity?
If this nurse recognised her how come no one else did?
She looked very different by then so I think this story is made up plus at night would be even harder
@@Nick_80599 There's always going to be people that look like someone else.
@user-xs1yx9tc9m Back in 2002 I doubt her pictures from 2000 were flying around online bare on mind a lot less people actually did go online back then, the newspapers always used her mugshot photo from the 60s well still do and a couple from the 70s. If you look hard enough you'll see how frail she looked in her 2000 photo, the one which she is being taken to hospital.
@@Nick_80599 Could it be that she has died at this point in time, but has been out of prison for some time before this ?
@@adrianparker-e9f I very much doubt that,the prison governor took Myra to Hampstead Heath for a walk and it became public knowledge and of course people went mad, there is no way she was let out,someone would have leaked that information and there was a mole that kept the newspapers very well informed. Even with a new identity, someone in the police or prison service would have leaked that information, the identity and whereabouts of Jon venables has been repeatedly leaked, you always have people who do not agree with release from prison. The safest place for Myra was prison and deep down she knew that herself. There were times when she was released from prison to attend hospital, you’ll find pictures online of her going to one dated 1994, she had very poor health and even if she was released she wouldn’t have been alive very long and that’s not including people who wanted to get her.
So is the idea that those in power have the notion that they have to 'give wrongdoers the chance to redeem themselves' and 'given a chance' but the public wouldn't accept it ?
I think if you had truly reformed and 'found' God, you would say 'I have done terrible things and deserve to be punished, I should die in prison, God save my soul'. Then I might believe you.
It definitely could be true there would of been to much outcry over her release and giving the sentencing in the uk im surprised she even served that much time
I reakon MH is dead. That coffin was a decoy for public to see a funeral taking place, so public can keep MH buried into the crime books from now on, and also just incase that coffin could be targeted for attack, Her body was moved off elsewhere for discreet cremation. It does seem possible shes out, but that woman was spotted by a nurse may have the unfortunate resemblance of MH looks, quite rightly gets upset when its mentioned. Personally, i dont think she was released. Public uproar if she was actually identified and her life at stake. She would have been a prisoner in her own home. Whats the point of being released from one to then hide in a one of your own making for safety.
John Venables Robert Thompson are amongst us
She wouldn’t be the first person that has done despicable things and been released under a new identity. Anything is possible.
I have written to many SKs and collect SK murderabillia but would never want anything from Brady or Hindley in my home, I feel the same about Gacy. Truely evil.
Who did you write to? Sounds a bit intense they lad
I just found you clogging up my feed pleasantly so too, liked and subscribed fellow northerner
I think it’s definitely possible she was released and given a new identity because there was a fascination with her by a bunch of wealthy people, also if you know about her time in jail and how so much time and effort was made for her and the prison officer who worked at a men’s prison got sent to visit her on weekends and he arrived once to find her holding a baby in her arms at some sort of prison party day event she was holding another woman inmates baby in her arms, the idea that upon getting to a prison you could find a child killer inmate holding a baby of another inmate is way more harder to believe than that of the child killer being secretly released without the public knowing and given a new identity i think, So yes i believe her holding the other inmates child really happened and i can believe she was quietly released and i think they were fascinated by her the powers that be were and excited by her and wanted to do a lot of research with her on her, I mean she was having relationships with people in the prison and people working for the prison system i think a student of psychology that was working at the prison was having a relationship with her I think her name was Nina
I wouldn't be surprised at all, probably got fat bank account, new motor and nice house in country to live in
I 100% believe she was released & didn't die - I said that at the time & still believe it to this day
The woke lot today would have released them yrs ago.
Where was the alleged car crash?
When I saw Hindley hearse going down the motorway I just immediately thought that coffins empty how often do you see prisoners on the way to the crem on the news? Never
Interesting comment
I think there is elements of truth in her being released, but I don’t believe the story. I had heard about it, but I think it was in one of the junk tabloids and ‘a nurse’ no names attribution etc. If, and I believe it’s possible, she was released, she would almost certainly not be in the UK. Most likely Australia or somewhere like that, having her walking around in the UK would be far too unsafe for her and us.
Shed be 82 if she was still alive
Check why her cousin glenys disappeared off all paperwork/electoral roll in 2002
Maybe died ?
@@janeslater8004 nope, she moved
I think she could very well of be released & given a new identity
Course she was let out
If you spend any time in a womens jail and you meet someone whose been in a loooong time they will tell you she was let out not died
There were.only 4 bearers in my grandfathers funeral and he was 16 stone. Also only 4 on my uncles funeral too, so I know for a fact that there can be just 4 pall bearers. But I do think
she could of been released
No, she was not, and that is fact. She was never released from prison and if anyone tells you different...
Is it a fact though
@@Breaktheice123 Absolutely. Having worked in prisons, the woman doing an impersonation of her was extremely good if it wasn't her.
@breaktheice .... Wondered if you would do a deep dive into lucy letby trial...
Possibly
Incidently every one has a double in looks
Myra Hindley died in prison. She died in 2002 at west suffolk hospital.
She was taken from Highpoint prison
So they say. I have my doubts.
Exactly
@@Breaktheice123 November 15th 2002.
Heart attack.
That is what MOCKINGBID told you
@@Breaktheice123but sadly some people are of the opinion well it’s in the newspapers so it must be true
I've often wondered about this with other people, and also, in some cases if someone actually went in prison. For example, that Floyd George case where the policeman is convicted. They couldn't have a verdict other than guilty, but if the establishment couldn't cover up the crime they could 'pretend' that he was in prison.( Of course that is just a thought. If the police etc. wanted to infiltrate criminal operations, an undercover agent may have to go through the process of conviction and imprisonment to provide a realistic cover, without serving the sentence !)
I’ve got a story about Hindley that has never been heard publicly before.
If you want to hear it contact me (it’s an incident that I was personally involved in)
E-mail me please
Very interesting now do a video on all the children who have been groomed and R’ped by grooming gangs up and down the country.
No ta
@@Breaktheice123why?
Heard this story or something similar maybe 12 - 13 yrs ago
It’s food for thought
Very interesting video! I need to more research before i make up my mind
Yeah it’s definitely up for debate and it’s definitely not a fact but it’s worth thinking about
yes is the answer
Luke i love your channel and I check every day to see if you have put any content on i hope you are going to be more frequent now please i am interested in your subjects you cover 😊
Wow 😯 great video. Her face no matter her age was always so recognisable. That big angular head and the location she was allegedly spotted. All very interesting!!!
Plausible that she was released? Yes
Plausible indeed
No, she wasnt released. I don't believe this is true.
Fair enough
Well done luke, very interesting
I may be mistaken but i’m sure she had days out near the end.I think i remember seeing photo’s in the paper.I could be wrong.
Watched a Documentary on rose west and she was in same jail yet hindley was in fear of Rose West that was after 2002
Released with new identity. So wrong. They should have thrown away the key. She IS, not WAS, a VILE creature.
It seems to me a major condition of parole would be to reveal where the final missing child was buried on the moors in order to be given a proper burial. Given this never happened such a deal with the devil would not happen without the location of the (was it the Kilbride boy who was never recovered) last missing victim so I dont believe it. Another massive condition of parole is admitting your crimes before the parole board. Aslong as she continues to maintain her innocence negates any possibility of parole. Also too many people would have to be involved in the coverup for it to not leak eventually by someone involved who had a conscience
Friends in lofty places. The world and its dealings are not so clean and clear cut. So much deception.
No! Keith Bennett was the only victim, who's remains were not found.
well... the victims they admited to killing, and were convicted of.
@@gutz323 thanks for the correction I couldn’t recall the name when I posted and you usually receive a barrage of abuse when you post something and get a detail incorrect in jump the trolls so thanks for the mature reply, a refreshing change. My point though I feel is correct otherwise 👍
@@paullogan5240 no problem! I know the feeling, when people can't wait to jump on you for a little mistake or incorrection.
Also you wasn't wrong anyway! You asked the question "was it the Kilbride boy who was never recovered?"
I just simply answered your question.
Have a good day! ☺
I’ve said this since the day she supposedly ‘died’
Very interesting, Luke 👍
Thank you very much
No she wasn’t .
Good vid, very sad circumstances and good folks hearts go out to the families of these children taken. They walk with Christ and been saved any further pain from the evil and deceptions of this Earth. Hindley will be or has been dealt with by the same hand that took those children up will cast her into the fiery pit of eternal damnation. A monster as Hindley was would never find peace and salvation in Jesus - as she would never admit her sin. I’d suggest that seeking out the nurse for interview coupled with investigating the Nunnery. Her connection with ‘finding God’ coupled with the Priest I’d suggest is the most likely place she would have been found!
I was sure i checked earlier Luke and the time had changed to 9pm? x
Very interesting & wouldn't surprise me at all, the coffin photo is very suspicious.
It’s good for thought isn’t it
Could you luke and ron try and track down all the people who have believed to have encountered her and interview them maybe if they are still alive and well etc
I'd imagine if this was true she would need to change her whole appearance to the point of being unrecognisable
If this is true it is very unlikely that the pallbearers would be in on it, maybe try tracing them and see what their reaction is to questions, are they gagged?
There was enormous security around her corpse, until she was cremated.
I don’t think the Uk prison service would go to the bother of assisting her release.
The UK prison service would do as it was commanded to do by government agencies.
I don't think the government would have released her, I mean how would it benefit them? It would be a nightmare to pull off and the public outcry would be unbelievable. I don't believe it for a minute
The picture of the coffin does not look authentic.