Appreciate the honest, thought provoking review Rick. I personally own a Scotty (paid $400) and have absolutely zero regrets about purchasing it. Not because I hole more putts with it, or because I think it's superior to all other putters...just simply because I really love the way it looks, feels, and I do enjoy having a premium product. To me it's an item I decided to splurge on and treat myself to a shiny pretty toy, not much more to it than that. However, one thing investing in a Scotty did do is make me feel obligated to practice my putting more. haha. So in a way, it did help me sink more putts!
I totally agree! I did the same thing and are seeing the same results. I bought a Scotty for 400€, it was a treat for me. I love the feel, the balance of the club head when putting and the general look. I can't say why, but whenever I pull it out of the bag I get a warm fuzzy feeling inside 😎🏌️♂️
IngLouisSchreurs 100% agree ppl should just be honest. There’s zero shame in it. And if the price tag on a brand new Scotty is too steep and someone still wants to bag one, they should just hit up golfbidder! Like fancy watches/cars/etc.,lot of people prefer the styling of the older generation Scotty’s.
I agree with you. I just bought one two weeks ago. The Newport. I'm in love with it. I've played three rounds. I don't putt better. However, I love putting with it and I love how it sounds, looks and feels. I've wanted one for a while and finally did it. I will say, the people I played with, 9 people in three rounds said "wow" when they saw it.
Touche.....hard to argue that it is the most used club in the bag though. That being said, some rounds it at least feels like my 60 degree W is used more.
Life in general is considerably more expensive like Alex mentions...but the cost of clubs and for that matter balls, course fees, etc. seem to be going up disproportionately relative to most of the sporting alternatives.
I bought one of these for myself as a birthday present last year and I have no regrets whatsoever. Great putter, great feel. The thing about Scotty putters, if you take care of them, keep a head cover on them when not in use, you can typically make most of your money back on them should you decide to sell them later. In fact, I have a few that are older that have actually gone up in value. No one “needs” a $400 putter, but no one “needs” a Mercedes or a Lexus either, but a lot of people won’t bat an eye dropping $70K on one of those. And owning one doesn’t make you a better driver.
I've played golf since I was 6....I've had a few really nice putters throughout the years. I always wanted a Scotty. So for my wife and I's 25th anniversary she bought me a Scotty 2016 Newport select. Awesome putter. So all I can say is life is short.....If you want "one" get "one" ........Whatever "one" is! Good video Ricky
Yeah, I agree. The pro is that you will probably sink more money in plenty stuff in your life that will not last as long as your new putter. If you enjoy playing with it. Good for you+1
Hahaha we are 25years married my wife and I in December. If she said do you want a Putter I'd laugh my head off. I need lessons, putting lessons and we are going on a holiday to Nth California too watch one of our son's play American football at College. Give me putting lessons
I agree. I am extremely happy with my Odyssey White Ice #5 putter. Was only $120 when it was purchased. Scotty Cameron putters are without a doubt excellent putters but way to expensive for my taste.
My Scotty replaced an Odyssey tri-hot (£89 secondhand), which I still have. I went for a new putter because the face was getting tatty. Both were stored together while I overcame a broken neck. On restarting, the Scotty went straight into play. The Odyssey I had to spend an hour cleaning it up so I could use it to practice indoors.
It's very simple... why people buy a Mercedes if a Toyota will last longer and take you from A to B ?.. because it makes you feel better. Sports are 80% mental... if you can afford one buy one... they are beautiful
Great, thought provoking episode Rick! I just recently purchased a Bettinardi iNovai 3.0 counterbalanced putter moving from a much more inexpensive Heavy Putter J2, which I was the first real putter that I ever owned. The reason for my decision were driven by a few things - 1) As my game and golf IQ has improved, I became less satisfied with the feel and predictability of the Heavy Putter, driven mostly by the lack of feel; 2) I came to the realization that the club that I use the most should be of the highest quality possible. As you mentioned, we spend close to $400 on a new driver, whe we only use it 14 times a round....why are we short changing ourselves on the putting green, where you get your final score for every hole? I coveted a Scotty Cameron initially because so many of my golf buddies have one, but I was asked to try a friends putter once and I fell in love with the incredible feel - he has a Bettinardi. Started to research the broader world of premium putter and got more convinced that a Bettinardi would be a great investment in my game that would provide the feel that I am looking for. I tested a number of Scotty putters - which were all great, but never convinced me. In summary, value is in the "eye" of the beholder - from a purely financial perspective, I think Scotty Camerons are grossly overpriced, however, if the product delivers what you want in a high quality fashion, and you value the product enough to pay that amount, then it could be a bargain for some. To me, a premium putter should be high on the consideration list if you are a mid hcp that aspires to steady improvement in their game.
I’ve just bought my first scotty Cameron putter, and have definitely 0 regrets! I went from using a rubbish, cheap piece of iron from sports direct to a scotty and the difference is ginormous. Had my first round with it today and finished 7 over par. My best yet, on the same course I normally finish between 12-16 over par. Not saying the scotty Cameron was the sole purpose of shaving off 5-10 shots however, feeling confident over the putter from 4,6,8 feet and sinking most puts, where before leaving it short, or just not lining up correctly. I paid £240 for my scotty, I’m looking at it as £12 a year for the next 20 years. Superb piece of business if you ask me!
I've A-B tested Scotties and Odyssey putters and, here's the important part, I found the Odyssey to be the better putter. Scotties give you more response back, but that didn't matter when I could control and aim the Odyssey better. Used Odyssey putters are the way to go, in my opinion. All in all, it comes down to what gives you the confidence when standing over the ball, what do you putt more consistently with, and what's in your price range. On price, $400 is too much. I golf a lot and that's toward the top of what I'd pay for irons. Newest gear doesn't make you the dearest golfer. If there's one thing I see in your channel, buy 1-3 year old equipment at half the cost of the newest stuff, sacrifice the 5 yards or less, and play more golf with the savings!
Great vid and i love this discussion. First off let me say that if you will spend the most money on your set...it should be on the putter. With that being said, you and Pete have shown with 3 years of golfbidder challenges, that yoj can get great putters from 3 to 5 years ago for hardly any money. I personally play a Wilson Staff Infinite Southside...love it and paid $70...plus it is a major winner with Harrington. Secondly, class and prestige is great and all but that will not put the ball in the hole. I played a guy this week that he had a PXG driver, mizura blades, md4 wedges and a Scptty futura putter. I was club geeking badly. I beat him by 10 strokes and my whole set including trolley was about $400 less than just his driver.
David Richard, PXG is ridiculously overpriced. The technology today is great with all the top brands. Pay a lot less for clubs probably just as good and use that extra cash to play more golf. That will lower your scores.
You should do a comparison between a Scotty and another cheaper milled putter. The Cleveland putters consistently perform well in the My Golf Spy reviews and cost a quarter of a Scotty! :)
I have just bought a Cleveland putter, second hand (like new) on eBay. A friend has the same one and I've tested it out. And I agree, bang for your buck the Cleveland is better than the Scotty. Yes the titleist looks a step above quality wise but results wise I actually prefer the Cleveland as I'm no worse off score wise but massively better off financially
Nice video Rick. The other day I found myself at my local golf shop. I had wedges in mind but they didn’t have the specific one to try so I asked the golf guy what else I needed. He pointed out that a new line of Scotty Cameron putters had just been released. Up until that day I had never tried a scotty cameron before. So i started goofing around with a few of the new super select models in the putting area and fell in love with the super select square back 2. My mind was blown. Everything about it felt amazing and next level compared to my ping sigma 2 tyne that I was fitted for three years ago which I putt above average with but am still dropping them like I could. Speed off the face of better for me. Dispersion and distance control was somehow tighter. I really liked the black alignment line on the grey putter. I was able to align the scotty very easily, naturally, and accurately. The feel is awesome. The balance is awesome. Etc. I putted incredible. It was point and shoot. The ball just ended up where I was trying to put it time and time again. Crazy consistent. My confidence in it just kept skyrocketing the more I putt. And i kept dropping them in the cup or leaving it an inch or two next to or past the cup. Nothing short. I have never reached that level of confidence in a putter before. I was on cloud 9. A result of the overwhelming results. I had dropped putt after putt after putt. Its obviously an amazing putter and despite it seeming like a great fit I wonder how much of the great results I had has to do with the confidence, excitement, adrenaline getting me in zone that day straight out the gate. Knowing that I had a tried and true putter in my hands that, as proven by Tiger, is capable of going in the hole from anywhere. Knowing that Tiger has faith in it. I noticed I was treating it differently than I treat my putter. Holding it more delicately from the moment I first picked it up. Respecting it. Admiring it. Like a work of art. Like a perfect blend of form and function. A subtle celebration of an accumulation of years of human ingenuity. Some magic in it. Like the way King Arthur holds excalibur after pulling it out of the stone in all the movies. Was my putting stroke smoother as a result of my mindset towards the putter? Or maybe I just didn’t want to break it cause it cost 450. Recently on vacation I rented a car. Usually i go with the cheapest rental car but I opted for the land rover because I wanted to understand why a car could cost so much more than another and, if there was something special there, experience it. Man am I glad I did. That car was incredible to drive. The land rover gives you that warm fuzzy feeling. Not because it says land rover on it but because it drives like a land rover. To this day when I see them on the road I am reminded of that joyous feeling of driving one. Next level engineering, comfort, smooth yet responsive handling, craftsmanship, results. It is addicting and exhilarating to drive as is the scotty cameron to putt with. So 450 for a putter is a ton but since trying it out I will end up paying it. Not because I want to show to everyone I have one like some folks with a fancy watch (smart phones have clocks). But to experience the awesome putting results, the feel, the confidence, the fun factor, the enjoyment and to get that warm fuzzy feeling in a game in which the mental aspect plays a big roll. If I could get what appears to be similar results from a different brand that is half the price I am going with the scotty. Samsung recently started making washing machines. I bought one because they make awesome tv’s. The washing machine is a piece of junk. A putter fit put me into a pxg putter when they first came out. I used it for two rounds. The ball was skidding the first 6-ten inches of the putt on morning dewing greens. So 450 for a scotty gets more than just an awesome milled putter. It also comes with the excitement it creates and the extra confidence boost I get from it considering all the names and concepts that are tied to it. Titleist, tiger, scotty, JT, adam scott, rory, vokey, spieth, pga, the history, the years of tradition, on course testing, trial and error tweaking, pga tour pro feedback, innovation and trusted performance. It has become a household name and for a reason. Trusted performance I have both heard about and witnessed/experienced first hand. Quite a package. The same reason I play a titleist golfball. And if I get it out on the course and stink with it or the honeymoon phase ends I will hang it up on the wall or sell it to some other sucker.
I just bought a 2018 Newport select 2.5 in April, played 3 rounds and have made way more putts with it than my odyssey 1W putter. The balance and feel is incredible! It is my favorite club in my bag. It is definitely worth the money I paid ...which was $306 US for demo model from a golf shop that was never hit on real grass. I absolutely love it!
I am on my 2nd Scotty. I absolutely love them. I don’t think it’s too much, every year people run out and buy a new $400-$500 driver every year, but they use a $50 putter. And like you mentioned, the putter is used every hole (usually multiple times per hole). Where driver maybe is used 10-14 times a round.
I have a Scotty Cameron Newport 2 which I had fitted for me. It's a terrific looking putter and when I'm putting well it's fantastic as it gives you lots of confidence over the putt. The downside is that I have to be playing every day and at my best for this putter to turn on. So most of the time I use a Spider - it's more consistent and far more forgiving.
I would spend $500 on a putter that I thought I could use for a long time... 1. If I like the looks 2. I can line the head up well 3. Has good impact feel 4. Can roll smooth on long putts 5. Adjustable in length 6. Adjustable in weight 5 and 6 are so I can use it as my body changes as I get older. Older people my want to stand taller and need a longer putter. Ray Floyd switched to a longer putter to save his back. (Some people might want to adjust weight length/as they adjust their stroke or to new golf courses). I bought an expensive Ping Kitsch putter at about that price and only wish it had weight adjustability. I feel a bit better with a lighter putter and can’t adjust it lighter.
I think not only is owning a Scotty Cameron a "status symbol" but it just gives you a little bit of confidence knowing that you are using the same thing the best players in the world are using.
I just bought a Scotty Cameron putter. After a putter fitting I had three left to choose from and I chose the Scotty Cameron, although all three performed well I liked the look, the attention to detail and the way the ball springs of the face. Guess what: I’ve set a new handicap record after great putting! Not necessarily the putter, but the psychology that I was putting with one of the best (looking) putters did the magic. Yes expensive, but I’ll probably keep it for the next 20 years, like my previous putter! That’s $20 per year, cheap I would say!
When I used to race bicycles I used to upgrade little parts that were just grams lighter but the next race my times were always better than my average. It's a mental thing
For 20 years I wanted one. Just because they're beautiful. I can finally afford one so I bought it. It looks, feels and puts great. I have definitely putted better with it. More confidence for sure. I love it and have no regrets. Bought my son one from eBay for a great price to try egtting him to be my golf partner as retirement looms. Love your videos Rick.
Just my humble opinion: Once you've matched a putter head to your putting stroke (face balanced, toe hang, mid toe hang, etc.) and selected the right length, I don't think there's a great deal of performance improvement to be had. It comes down to the amount of practice and feel for whichever putter you've selected. I sometimes practice putting with a wedge and have not noticed a great deal of difference in terms of ability to lag and hole out puts (once you've practiced with it for a while) than with a traditional putter. On the other hand, if spending $400 or more on a putter gives you some additional confidence, by all means, have at it.
Great review Rick!! I think the price of all golf clubs has jumped up recently, a few years ago you could get a new wedge for about £80, now they’re £150!! Scandalous!!
My issue with Scotty Cameron is the same with all manufacturers, the lack of left-handed selection. I own a scotty but when they came out with the new models, the model I currently have is not available in left-handed (newport 2.5). Cost is a factor but not having a choice is a greater choice for us left-handed golfers. Thanks for the video and the channel. Just found it and have been watching and enjoying.
It surprises me that so many players, esp a professional, ball at the price of a good quality putter. I bought a SC Studio Design back the early 00’s and I haven’t regretted it since. It still performs wonderfully well and is by far the most beautiful putter I’ve ever seen. It instills enormous confidence in me and I see no reason to change it. It still looks very good even now, almost 20 years later. In that time I have gone through 3/4 different drivers and rarely because I felt I needed a change; it was because I didn’t want to be left too far behind in terms of using inferior equipment. My putter can last me the rest of my life as it doesn’t suffer wear and tear and there won’t be any new innovations to improve its performance. I use twice as often as any other club in the bag. A good drive can’t save me from a three putt but a good putt can save me from an errant drive. Drive for show, putt for dough.
@@darinjohnson4275 But is it worth $400 USD??....That's prob about $700 in Australian........I could by a bloody car for that much money.......In fact I didn't even pay that much for my car lol :-)
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Faire review Rick thank you. I was once a scratch golfer. Been a very long time haven't been on the course but I'll be back soon. I still use probably the cheapest putter and it doesn't even exist anymore (Masters MC-Z 510). Throughout the years I have tried high and low quality putters but I when it was the subject to be accuracy, I have always used my oldie. The only reason is that I always knew how the putter would react at any condition whether out from the fringe, long or short, up or down the slopes. Any equipment are adjusted up to a certain point either your drivers, woods, irons, wedges or putters. However the player has to have a certain level of play and adapt themselves to their tool box and especially putter the tool the is used the most. I love the feel and the looks of high end putters but there is a time to adapt to their characteristics and reaction in game. And a weekend golfer needs minimum of one year to understand and make the most of it. (considering a weekend golfer won't make more than 52 round of 18 holes a year) So basically it probably is up to the consumer to decide but I would keep my "scotty" at home in case. :)
I love playing golf, it’s my hobby and the thing I’ve chosen to enjoy for myself. I’ve just bought a scotty simply because I want one. Now instead of hitting the range with the driver I’m heading out on the putting green. Do particular putters make you sink more? Yes, if they inspire you to putt more in practice.
Thanks Rick well done. Many moons ago when I did the dumbest thing. I showed up for a round of golf without my Ping anser putter. I panicked I went immediately into the pro-shop with the intent of borrowing a putter. Luckily they had a brand new Scotty Newport 2 for sale. A little under $200 with tax. I bought the putter and had an amazing putting round. Since then it has been wonderful and awful, and has made it in and out of my bag but mostly in. One thing I noticed in the video is the Odyssey putter you were using bounced the ball a lot more than the Scotty? The only negative I have seen with the Scotty versus the Ping is the softness of the metal. My Ping still looks like a brand new putter and I have had it for over 30 years. Where I have had to send my putter to Scotty to restore 3 times. The metal is very soft and dings very easily.
The main advantage I see in this style putter is the ability to tune it to your stroke style. You can swap out different weights in the sole (and maybe in the handle - don't know). But given you can get that same capability in a Kirkland putter at $150, this one at $400 isn't offering a 160% improvement over the Kirkland. What the extra money gets you is mostly the brand name and style points.
@@dangerranger4323 no lol, my putter cost $20. still a stainless steel putter with nickel finish, circular milled face. btw, its not that I haven't tried SC, I have used a blade type for 2 games and an armlock grip mallet for 1 game. both are from relatives and in good condition, I just can't feel the difference.
I just bought a Newport 3 (which I was properly fit to) and I really noticed the difference in performance when it comes to putting. The putter I replaced was an older Cameron from 2005 and the resale value was strong. The putter was worth more than the set of irons I had purchased from the same era.
I went and tested almost ever putter in American golf and clubhouse golf. I wasn’t any better with an SC, Pings felt as good, holed as many with Odyssey but I still bought a special select 2. Why? I simply found it beautiful. It was nice to look at - they say you can’t put a price on beauty but obviously you can. £360
They are pretty but I’d never buy one! Like you said “it’s not gonna make me hole more putts” plus I don’t like the prices of regular golf equipment. That’s why I buy second hand. $400 for a putter and $600 for a driver 😂😂😂 👎🏻👎🏻
I am coming from a high handicappers perspective here (18-22). I had a try with a Scotty Cameron in a shop, and absolute loved it. It felt incredible. i felt, that to me, the feedback was insane, and that my adjustments to correct myself, where represented by the club. However, it has to be said, i have always favoured a heavier putter, as i feel it encourages a more gradual swing and smoother action, so the Cameron would be great for me. My friend however, has always preferred a light putter. He couldn't get round the heavier putters, such as my Ping or the Cameron. So i think at our level, its far more important to be comfortable with feel, and what you almost, psychologically, lend yourself too. Guys in the lower handicap echelons, i think the same principle applies. How many of us, have an old club in our bag, the old trusty get me out of trouble club, all the advancements in tech etc, but your old club....is the one you turn to
Great video and views. I do own a Scotty Cameron Futura X5, I've only had it a few months, I bought it second hand so I managed to save a few $AUD. (It was $300) I have almost always used blade style putters with milled faces so the transition to the X5 was easy in terms of feel. I tried various Odyssey putters, and almost went for the #7 White Hot, but the face insert was too dull for me, it didn't give me the feedback I was looking for. First off, picking up the X5 it feels beautifully balanced and made to a high standard. As I address the ball, it looks amazing and gives me the confidence straight away, the sight lines are excellent and making practise strokes it flows very nicely. I couldn't look down on the TM Spider Tour (especially in RED, WTF is with that?!) or any of the new Odyssey models and have the same confidence. The X5 has classic looks that I want to look down on. The transition to a mallet from a blade was also quite straight forward with such a quality putter. Do I hole more putts? Maybe 1 or 2 per round, was it worth the money? Yes, I enjoy putting again. I do agree that the current models are expensive (to the tune of $550 AUD in stores), and I wouldn't buy a new one. The used model I have will be a keeper for the years to come.
Yes they are! Even if they took 4 hours to make, a putter doesn't make much difference. Just a show off piece. Like having diamonds in your putter wouldn't help but would cost more.
Found bags of clubs from a house clean-out . . . Among the mess were 10 putters, two of them mallets, My Taylormade Monza Spyder, first version. The perimeter weighting and sheer mass of the mallet feels superior to any blade I've used.
Used to have a Scotty a handful of years back. Loved it. Dumb friend of mine broke it. Refused to pay to replace it. Used it as an to try a different putter. So I switched to odyssey. Liked it for a while but didn’t give me the same level of confidence and feel. Switch back recently and I don’t think I’ll go back. There’s something confidence inspiring about putting with a Scotty.
Rick, why when you take your first putt with the square back putter 3:12 and the ball goes past the hole the camera breaks away and when it comes back the ball has been moved back closer to the hole. Was it Scotty that didn't want the ball that far from the hole or was it you???? Just Curious
Rick. Great feedback. I've had my scotty cameron studio design putter for over 14 yrs. I think the money one would pay goes towards the craftsmanship and prestige that comes along with owning one. Its a common occurence that it gets noticed with compliments everytime i pull it out the bag. Vanity can get expensive but for me its worth it. Every now and then i'll ace a put or two.
I did not get fit for a putter but I spent a day at my local golf store on their indoor putting green. I found that I liked the counter balanced putters and I quickly fell in love with a Scotty Cameron Dual Balance 6M. I didn't want to throw down that much money for a new one so I picked up a used dual balance Futura X on Ebay for 1/3 of the price. I couldn't be happier with the putter. It made me a better putter but only because I finally found a putter better suited for my putting style. As others have said, the price of the putter doesn't matter if it doesn't work for your style.
I don't understand the reasoning of using an insert instead of the one piece construction. The major champions who use Scotty's are using older designs such as tiger and jordan. Why change a proven method of success?
You can get different inserts for different speeds of the green so one that’s firmer for wet conditions and softer for firmer conditions so you can still make the same stroke but it will go 2-5 feet further or shorter
I get all that. I just have some issues with the look of the insert. Scotty is known for the beauty of his craftsmanship and I feel that the insert takes some of that away. His biggest improvement that I admire is the change of the sole so it sits square at address.
Many years ago I had a Scotty lacuna putter. I loved it. Due to injuries I sold all my clubs and in the last few years I have been interested in getting some of my old stuff back. But the Scotty is one I just can't justify. As rick said, there are putters just as good and half the price. I think the have got to the point of almost only being a status symbol. Odyssey for one make many putters I think are better than the titleist one I had.
Hi Rick just catching up with videos and watched the Scotty Cameron one. Bought the Futura X7M dual balanced 38inch 18 months ago. What a putter. Helped fund the purchase by trading in unused clubs. At the time it cost £249. But over the last 25 rounds I have averaged 29 putts around. Very pleased with it. Griz.
Great & honest reviews on the Cameron putters Rick. I’ve owned atleast a dozen of them in the past. Ended up using an old Mizuno BC2 Black Carbon Bettinardi design. Sold all of my Cameron putters except for just one of them. Kept a mint Te-I3 Newport II Long Neck. It’s such a classic beauty! Alway’s looking forward to your next video! Stay safe, and keep healthy Rick. Keep swing’n them beautiful drive’s! Thanks Rick. Cheer’s!
I bot a Golo 5, years ago. I thought at the time is was fairly expensive, but it was my Christmas present to myself. I'd buy it again. Love the feel. And yes, I do put better. I think I've become a very good putter with it. Last time out I just could not miss. I'll say this, every thing is more expensive now. And it ain't getting any cheaper. I've let friends use it as they have asked, and all said the same, nice putter. Thanks for your work. Enjoy your channel.
Andrew D Supply and demand😂. No there are just more people stupid enough to pay ridiculous prices for a putter that is no better than a $30 putter at any sporting goods store.
I have owned a Scotty Cameron Teryllium Sante Fe, and Red X, and as of yesterday a fastback. It came down to the fastback and an Odyssey EXO Rosie. I was a little more comfortable on shorter puts with the Rosie, which made me feel like I may own my first Odyssey putter, but they extra sound a feel of the Fastback made my distance control on longer puts much better. I love that the Cameron's spare no expense on materials and construction and have paid more for almost every driver I have owned.
Sorry! I heavily bat an eyelid at £400 pound for a driver... Now with the custom fitting options I hit up demo days and remember the spec and pick up the club 2nd hand about 12/18 months later for a 1/3 of the price!
Asking golfers if Scotty Camerons are worth the price is like asking car owners if a Ferrari is worth the price. A cheap car will still get you from A to B ! The only people who moan about the price are those who can't afford them.
I was going to say... maybe use Porsche in this metaphor? Maybe it’s overpriced and the person driving might not be able to push the car to its limits, but for those that can and do use the car for more than “looking cool”... well, to that person it’s not over priced at all.
My older brother uses a Scotty putter. I use a generic no name putter. I sink more putts than him, and he has way better vision than I do. Of course, he uses new titleist irons while I use 1983/84 Ben hogans and I still strike better than him!
I am a new follower of your channel. I like the way you approach the lessons. Simple articulation of technicalities make your videos very useful for club level golfers like myself. So a BIG thank you from my side 👍 This was a very thought provoking video Rick. Great discussion points too. I own a Scotty Cameron myself. Putting is a lot about confidence & for some people knowing that you are buying the best adds immensely to that confidence. Like you said, it doesn't guarantee more putts as an equipment per se but the added confidence might help in making more. All good things comes at a price; especially when there is no other option which can boast of same creds. Its like a Mercedes S Class. If you want the best car in the World (S class is generally regarded as such) then you have got to pay the price the maker asks for it as there is no other benchmark. Hence statements like 'equally good at half the price' only amplify the brand image & aspirational value of it.
I bought a new putter recently and it was a third of the price. First round with it I holed 3 long birdie putts, felt great off the face and can’t imagine how much better it could be paying that much for a putter. I think putting has more to do with how the putter feels when you use it, rather than the price tag or which brand it is. Also Rick, you tested the putter I now have last year,I think it was in turkey (could be wrong) and sang it’s praises. Great review as usual, look forward to the next one Rick 👍
I putted one at the local Roger Dunn in Santa Ana, and let me tell you. I think I jizzed in my pants. I have an old Newport 2 and my current putter is a Bettinardi BB8 and love both. But that new insert feels so nooice!
I agree...the 2018 line is really really nice. I was not a fan of the clicky 2016 inserts. If anyone tried a 2016 and didn't like the feel...TRY THE 2018's!
Worth mentioning too that those tour putters are closer to the 5k - 10k range. But I absolutely love my Scotty, and I enjoy the "world of Scotty" that one can emerse themselves in if they are a fan. His headcovers are fun, great high quality apparel, and like you said it's just a great looking and feeling putter.
I think scottys have become more of a status symbol rather than "more" functional. I have owned several scottys and they are pretty and great craftsmanship. I picked up a Wilson 8802 Milled for $180, sold my scottys and have not looked back. The only neg feedback I have on scottys is the face insert, I personally am not a fan. I also picked up a used Rife Bimini, great putter. I guess in the end, if you need a $400 putter to putt well, then that is your price point. This is not a scotty hater comment for all the purists out there, the newport 3, the heel shafted model i tried it out, felt good and rolled well. after sinking a few putts at the store with it, it did nothing more for me that my 8802 doesnt. get what makes you feel confident on the green. Great video. well done Rick.
I think putting more psychological than other stroke you'll take on the course. If buying a $400 putter is going to make you more comfortable then have at it. If you're more comfortable with a red rubber mallet from a miniature golf course then that's fine too. Ultimately confidence is what it's all about.
Scottu Camerons are great clubs. They look and feel great 👍 However in my opinion you pay a lot off beacause the branding. If you have extra money just buy it and you get beatifull and guality putter. However, you can get also good putters much cheaper.
I bought a new Monterey, California Scotty for $275 a few years back. It was my second putter purchase ever. I love it and probably will play it for life. I don't mind it being expensive when you know it is going to last so much longer than any other club in the bag. I had restore the paint when it wore down and good as new.
This video popped up on my suggested videos to watch and really enjoyed it. Think it is good to weigh the pros and cons. Now I am not an experienced player. In fact I haven't really played for the last 20 years but are looking to get back into it. My take on putters is that a putter is a putter and the best one for you is the one that feels best from the face and gives you most confidence when standing over the putt. The rest is up to your stroke, green reading abilities and weight on each putt. Anyways, love your channel Rick
I held out close to 15yrs to get my Dream putter, the OG Scotty Cameron Futura. Back when it was first released, I'm pretty sure it was $200-250 range and rarely would I see a lefty model. I always had to use it right handed at golf shops, just to try it out. I always loved the feel, look and sound of it. I finally managed to get one on eBay for just under $90 without the hardcover. I did eventually get that too. They still hold their value for sure. Hard to find a futura under $100, in left handed. I didn't even bother with the divot tool.
Correct me if m wrong but with putting you take the putter back a set distance (not far)depending on how long he putt is and then try to hit the ball in the middle and if you have chosen the right line(which has nothing to do with the putter) you should be there or there about! Seeing as you take every other club back further and have all sorts of there things to consider I would be inclined to spend more on other clubs.
Got a question for a Scotty Cameron aficionado... About 12-15yrs ago while playing a round w/ my grandpa I tried 1 of his friends Scotty Cameron. From what I remember of the club it was a traditional blade style putter, it had a tan grip & a black club head (or putter head). The distinguishing feature that I remember is the weight of the club wasn’t balanced at all. The putter face or club head was much heavier, making the putter noticeably bottom heavy. I’ve used several Scotty Cameron’s & owned a couple since then, but never had one that felt like that. My question is, is there a Scotty Cameron model that’s produced regularly that’s known for having a heavier putter head like that, or was it just that years club? I really loved the feel of that putter
I just bought one an hour ago. Putting is my strength and I’ve used an old white ice for the last ten years but needed something longer. I tried other putters that felt good but I like the way the Newport looks the most. After fit and feel, I like my club to be aesthetically pleasing and the others didn’t suit my eye. I’m sure I could have saved some money; but if this is what a lot of my favorite pro’s use, I take comfort in knowing that if I miss a putt it was my stroke and not my gear... I wouldn’t suggest this putter if you still have gaps in your bag though. Also, if I spend 400 on a club, I’m going to practice more with it.
Well I use a $90 aud putter and I find it well balanced good feel and I think it's what you adapt to and on the day it's all about you and how you are putting, good or bad. Cheers
I struggled for years with my putting using a low priced Wilson then a mid priced putter from Taylor made and then a high end odyssey, i never felt comfortable with any of them. Then i got my Scotty and my putting just improved massively, maybe as the design suited me but my confidence was up as i felt my off centre putts did not punish me like my old insert putters! However i had mine for 2 years now before prices went up massively, and im not sure i would go and pay £365.00 today for another one!!!!
Hey Rick, just got my new Scotty Newport 2.5, 34”, it feels more stable and I feel that I could change the weights to a slightly lighter weight possibly, but wow what a nice putter, excellent work on the reviews.
Great video! I very much like your idea on purchasing a cheaper putter and spend the money you saved on putting lesson makes a lot of sense for a higher handicapper, but if your a lower handicapper and you can afford the Scotty Cameron putter why not, they are all works of art.
My favorite putter is an old Odyssey Backstryke, witch I think I spent about $110,00 for new. Now when I buy a new putter I just try them out and take the one that feels good. I have light putters and heavy putters I use on differernt greens fast or slow. I never pay more than $100.00 and often under 60.00 and when I'm done with them I'll buy a new one and sell the old one for about $5.00 at a garage sale or throw it away. They all work as long as the ball goes where you want it to go when you hit it in the center of the club face.
I just purchased my forever custom-made Ping Anser D PLD putter. It's an absolute joy putting with it, and it felt buttery soft. I tried Scotty and Bettinardi but Ping won.
I have a Scotty 2.5 Newport which cost £190.00 about 10 years ago. Every other club in my bag has been changed but this baby has always stayed. I have re-gripped it a few times, it has had a couple of different headcovers but like Triggers brush it is still original.
I have an older toe weighted Scotty Newport Two and a Centre shaft balanced Odyssey 2 ball putter. I like them both and game both of them regularly. I probably putt a little better with the Odyssey since I'm more of a "back and through" style putter....but I get a ton of enjoyment from playing both of them. The good thing about spending on a putter is that you can play it for years and not feel like you're losing out on all the new tech the way you might feel with drivers.
Appreciate the honest, thought provoking review Rick. I personally own a Scotty (paid $400) and have absolutely zero regrets about purchasing it. Not because I hole more putts with it, or because I think it's superior to all other putters...just simply because I really love the way it looks, feels, and I do enjoy having a premium product. To me it's an item I decided to splurge on and treat myself to a shiny pretty toy, not much more to it than that. However, one thing investing in a Scotty did do is make me feel obligated to practice my putting more. haha. So in a way, it did help me sink more putts!
I totally agree! I did the same thing and are seeing the same results. I bought a Scotty for 400€, it was a treat for me. I love the feel, the balance of the club head when putting and the general look. I can't say why, but whenever I pull it out of the bag I get a warm fuzzy feeling inside 😎🏌️♂️
hi2meb you single handedly sold me on a new Scotty. Absolutely can't argue with your reasoning haha
IngLouisSchreurs 100% agree ppl should just be honest. There’s zero shame in it. And if the price tag on a brand new Scotty is too steep and someone still wants to bag one, they should just hit up golfbidder! Like fancy watches/cars/etc.,lot of people prefer the styling of the older generation Scotty’s.
Brendan Hanley it’s bc they’re damn beautiful pieces of golf art plus they’re shiny! 😂
I agree with you. I just bought one two weeks ago. The Newport. I'm in love with it. I've played three rounds. I don't putt better. However, I love putting with it and I love how it sounds, looks and feels. I've wanted one for a while and finally did it. I will say, the people I played with, 9 people in three rounds said "wow" when they saw it.
bold of you to assume i use my putter on every hole
This may be the greatest comment on the internet...
Well played sir!
Touche.....hard to argue that it is the most used club in the bag though. That being said, some rounds it at least feels like my 60 degree W is used more.
I find myself using the sand wedge more often than my putter
3 year old scotty Cameron 150 quid on golfbidder :)
I personally think all clubs not just putters and drivers are becoming ridiculously expensive.
Mike McNulty it’s not just golf clubs. Look at candy bars or movie tickets. When governments print money, money loses value.
Life in general is considerably more expensive like Alex mentions...but the cost of clubs and for that matter balls, course fees, etc. seem to be going up disproportionately relative to most of the sporting alternatives.
@@chrisgilligan4968 Indeed, Chris. They'll kill off the sport soon.
Dick Turnip the sport is killed off how many junior golfers do you see at golf clubs these days the cost of equipment is going through the roof
The golf industry got addicted to the bottom lines of the Tiger era, and now that the surge is over they have to recoup in other ways.
Cut them all in half. We need a more in-depth look.
That makes them way too short
@@duconce You sir must be a dad, otherwise you would not have access to jokes of this caliber lmao
I bought one of these for myself as a birthday present last year and I have no regrets whatsoever. Great putter, great feel. The thing about Scotty putters, if you take care of them, keep a head cover on them when not in use, you can typically make most of your money back on them should you decide to sell them later. In fact, I have a few that are older that have actually gone up in value.
No one “needs” a $400 putter, but no one “needs” a Mercedes or a Lexus either, but a lot of people won’t bat an eye dropping $70K on one of those. And owning one doesn’t make you a better driver.
I've played golf since I was 6....I've had a few really nice putters throughout the years. I always wanted a Scotty. So for my wife and I's 25th anniversary she bought me a Scotty 2016 Newport select. Awesome putter. So all I can say is life is short.....If you want "one" get "one" ........Whatever "one" is! Good video Ricky
awesome story bro, she’s a keeper!
Yeah, I agree. The pro is that you will probably sink more money in plenty stuff in your life that will not last as long as your new putter. If you enjoy playing with it. Good for you+1
Hahaha we are 25years married my wife and I in December. If she said do you want a Putter I'd laugh my head off. I need lessons, putting lessons and we are going on a holiday to Nth California too watch one of our son's play American football at College. Give me putting lessons
@@brettalan5348 Plenty of lesson YT for free mate......Rick's prob already done a few lol :-)
They're undoubtedly great putters but when you can get an good odyssey or Ping for almost half the price they're probably over priced.
Odyssey SRT
I agree. I am extremely happy with my Odyssey White Ice #5 putter. Was only $120 when it was purchased. Scotty Cameron putters are without a doubt excellent putters but way to expensive for my taste.
@ihatescreennames89 : a SC blade is really heavy actually.
My Scotty replaced an Odyssey tri-hot (£89 secondhand), which I still have. I went for a new putter because the face was getting tatty. Both were stored together while I overcame a broken neck. On restarting, the Scotty went straight into play. The Odyssey I had to spend an hour cleaning it up so I could use it to practice indoors.
It's very simple... why people buy a Mercedes if a Toyota will last longer and take you from A to B ?.. because it makes you feel better. Sports are 80% mental... if you can afford one buy one... they are beautiful
Great, thought provoking episode Rick! I just recently purchased a Bettinardi iNovai 3.0 counterbalanced putter moving from a much more inexpensive Heavy Putter J2, which I was the first real putter that I ever owned. The reason for my decision were driven by a few things - 1) As my game and golf IQ has improved, I became less satisfied with the feel and predictability of the Heavy Putter, driven mostly by the lack of feel; 2) I came to the realization that the club that I use the most should be of the highest quality possible. As you mentioned, we spend close to $400 on a new driver, whe we only use it 14 times a round....why are we short changing ourselves on the putting green, where you get your final score for every hole? I coveted a Scotty Cameron initially because so many of my golf buddies have one, but I was asked to try a friends putter once and I fell in love with the incredible feel - he has a Bettinardi. Started to research the broader world of premium putter and got more convinced that a Bettinardi would be a great investment in my game that would provide the feel that I am looking for. I tested a number of Scotty putters - which were all great, but never convinced me.
In summary, value is in the "eye" of the beholder - from a purely financial perspective, I think Scotty Camerons are grossly overpriced, however, if the product delivers what you want in a high quality fashion, and you value the product enough to pay that amount, then it could be a bargain for some. To me, a premium putter should be high on the consideration list if you are a mid hcp that aspires to steady improvement in their game.
I’ve just bought my first scotty Cameron putter, and have definitely 0 regrets! I went from using a rubbish, cheap piece of iron from sports direct to a scotty and the difference is ginormous. Had my first round with it today and finished 7 over par. My best yet, on the same course I normally finish between 12-16 over par. Not saying the scotty Cameron was the sole purpose of shaving off 5-10 shots however, feeling confident over the putter from 4,6,8 feet and sinking most puts, where before leaving it short, or just not lining up correctly. I paid £240 for my scotty, I’m looking at it as £12 a year for the next 20 years. Superb piece of business if you ask me!
I've A-B tested Scotties and Odyssey putters and, here's the important part, I found the Odyssey to be the better putter. Scotties give you more response back, but that didn't matter when I could control and aim the Odyssey better. Used Odyssey putters are the way to go, in my opinion. All in all, it comes down to what gives you the confidence when standing over the ball, what do you putt more consistently with, and what's in your price range.
On price, $400 is too much. I golf a lot and that's toward the top of what I'd pay for irons. Newest gear doesn't make you the dearest golfer. If there's one thing I see in your channel, buy 1-3 year old equipment at half the cost of the newest stuff, sacrifice the 5 yards or less, and play more golf with the savings!
Great vid and i love this discussion.
First off let me say that if you will spend the most money on your set...it should be on the putter. With that being said, you and Pete have shown with 3 years of golfbidder challenges, that yoj can get great putters from 3 to 5 years ago for hardly any money. I personally play a Wilson Staff Infinite Southside...love it and paid $70...plus it is a major winner with Harrington.
Secondly, class and prestige is great and all but that will not put the ball in the hole. I played a guy this week that he had a PXG driver, mizura blades, md4 wedges and a Scptty futura putter. I was club geeking badly. I beat him by 10 strokes and my whole set including trolley was about $400 less than just his driver.
David Richard, PXG is ridiculously overpriced. The technology today is great with all the top brands. Pay a lot less for clubs probably just as good and use that extra cash to play more golf. That will lower your scores.
You should do a comparison between a Scotty and another cheaper milled putter.
The Cleveland putters consistently perform well in the My Golf Spy reviews and cost a quarter of a Scotty! :)
I got a Cleveland milled- great putter.
I have just bought a Cleveland putter, second hand (like new) on eBay. A friend has the same one and I've tested it out. And I agree, bang for your buck the Cleveland is better than the Scotty. Yes the titleist looks a step above quality wise but results wise I actually prefer the Cleveland as I'm no worse off score wise but massively better off financially
A scotty and an old vintage ping bar
Just got a Cleveland they are great putters.
My putter was $20 on ebay. I'm not a good at putting so pretty sure I would 3 put with $400 putter too. So it's a no for me.
I got my two ball Odyssey blade at a thrift store for $6. Love it. Never bought a new club in my life.
Nice video Rick. The other day I found myself at my local golf shop. I had wedges in mind but they didn’t have the specific one to try so I asked the golf guy what else I needed. He pointed out that a new line of Scotty Cameron putters had just been released. Up until that day I had never tried a scotty cameron before. So i started goofing around with a few of the new super select models in the putting area and fell in love with the super select square back 2. My mind was blown. Everything about it felt amazing and next level compared to my ping sigma 2 tyne that I was fitted for three years ago which I putt above average with but am still dropping them like I could. Speed off the face of better for me. Dispersion and distance control was somehow tighter. I really liked the black alignment line on the grey putter. I was able to align the scotty very easily, naturally, and accurately. The feel is awesome. The balance is awesome. Etc. I putted incredible. It was point and shoot. The ball just ended up where I was trying to put it time and time again. Crazy consistent. My confidence in it just kept skyrocketing the more I putt. And i kept dropping them in the cup or leaving it an inch or two next to or past the cup. Nothing short. I have never reached that level of confidence in a putter before. I was on cloud 9. A result of the overwhelming results. I had dropped putt after putt after putt. Its obviously an amazing putter and despite it seeming like a great fit I wonder how much of the great results I had has to do with the confidence, excitement, adrenaline getting me in zone that day straight out the gate. Knowing that I had a tried and true putter in my hands that, as proven by Tiger, is capable of going in the hole from anywhere. Knowing that Tiger has faith in it. I noticed I was treating it differently than I treat my putter. Holding it more delicately from the moment I first picked it up. Respecting it. Admiring it. Like a work of art. Like a perfect blend of form and function. A subtle celebration of an accumulation of years of human ingenuity. Some magic in it. Like the way King Arthur holds excalibur after pulling it out of the stone in all the movies. Was my putting stroke smoother as a result of my mindset towards the putter? Or maybe I just didn’t want to break it cause it cost 450.
Recently on vacation I rented a car. Usually i go with the cheapest rental car but I opted for the land rover because I wanted to understand why a car could cost so much more than another and, if there was something special there, experience it. Man am I glad I did. That car was incredible to drive. The land rover gives you that warm fuzzy feeling. Not because it says land rover on it but because it drives like a land rover. To this day when I see them on the road I am reminded of that joyous feeling of driving one. Next level engineering, comfort, smooth yet responsive handling, craftsmanship, results. It is addicting and exhilarating to drive as is the scotty cameron to putt with. So 450 for a putter is a ton but since trying it out I will end up paying it. Not because I want to show to everyone I have one like some folks with a fancy watch (smart phones have clocks). But to experience the awesome putting results, the feel, the confidence, the fun factor, the enjoyment and to get that warm fuzzy feeling in a game in which the mental aspect plays a big roll. If I could get what appears to be similar results from a different brand that is half the price I am going with the scotty. Samsung recently started making washing machines. I bought one because they make awesome tv’s. The washing machine is a piece of junk. A putter fit put me into a pxg putter when they first came out. I used it for two rounds. The ball was skidding the first 6-ten inches of the putt on morning dewing greens. So 450 for a scotty gets more than just an awesome milled putter. It also comes with the excitement it creates and the extra confidence boost I get from it considering all the names and concepts that are tied to it. Titleist, tiger, scotty, JT, adam scott, rory, vokey, spieth, pga, the history, the years of tradition, on course testing, trial and error tweaking, pga tour pro feedback, innovation and trusted performance. It has become a household name and for a reason. Trusted performance I have both heard about and witnessed/experienced first hand. Quite a package. The same reason I play a titleist golfball. And if I get it out on the course and stink with it or the honeymoon phase ends I will hang it up on the wall or sell it to some other sucker.
I just bought a 2018 Newport select 2.5 in April, played 3 rounds and have made way more putts with it than my odyssey 1W putter. The balance and feel is incredible! It is my favorite club in my bag. It is definitely worth the money I paid ...which was $306 US for demo model from a golf shop that was never hit on real grass. I absolutely love it!
I am on my 2nd Scotty. I absolutely love them. I don’t think it’s too much, every year people run out and buy a new $400-$500 driver every year, but they use a $50 putter. And like you mentioned, the putter is used every hole (usually multiple times per hole). Where driver maybe is used 10-14 times a round.
I bought my driver used for $25 and drive further than my friends with their $500 drivers. It brings me joy seeing them get angry about it too.
I have a Scotty Cameron Newport 2 which I had fitted for me. It's a terrific looking putter and when I'm putting well it's fantastic as it gives you lots of confidence over the putt. The downside is that I have to be playing every day and at my best for this putter to turn on. So most of the time I use a Spider - it's more consistent and far more forgiving.
I would spend $500 on a putter that I thought I could use for a long time...
1. If I like the looks
2. I can line the head up well
3. Has good impact feel
4. Can roll smooth on long putts
5. Adjustable in length
6. Adjustable in weight
5 and 6 are so I can use it as my body changes as I get older. Older people my want to stand taller and need a longer putter. Ray Floyd switched to a longer putter to save his back. (Some people might want to adjust weight length/as they adjust their stroke or to new golf courses).
I bought an expensive Ping Kitsch putter at about that price and only wish it had weight adjustability. I feel a bit better with a lighter putter and can’t adjust it lighter.
I think not only is owning a Scotty Cameron a "status symbol" but it just gives you a little bit of confidence knowing that you are using the same thing the best players in the world are using.
I just bought a Scotty Cameron putter. After a putter fitting I had three left to choose from and I chose the Scotty Cameron, although all three performed well I liked the look, the attention to detail and the way the ball springs of the face. Guess what: I’ve set a new handicap record after great putting! Not necessarily the putter, but the psychology that I was putting with one of the best (looking) putters did the magic. Yes expensive, but I’ll probably keep it for the next 20 years, like my previous putter! That’s $20 per year, cheap I would say!
When I used to race bicycles I used to upgrade little parts that were just grams lighter but the next race my times were always better than my average. It's a mental thing
For 20 years I wanted one. Just because they're beautiful. I can finally afford one so I bought it. It looks, feels and puts great. I have definitely putted better with it. More confidence for sure. I love it and have no regrets. Bought my son one from eBay for a great price to try egtting him to be my golf partner as retirement looms. Love your videos Rick.
Just my humble opinion: Once you've matched a putter head to your putting stroke (face balanced, toe hang, mid toe hang, etc.) and selected the right length, I don't think there's a great deal of performance improvement to be had. It comes down to the amount of practice and feel for whichever putter you've selected. I sometimes practice putting with a wedge and have not noticed a great deal of difference in terms of ability to lag and hole out puts (once you've practiced with it for a while) than with a traditional putter. On the other hand, if spending $400 or more on a putter gives you some additional confidence, by all means, have at it.
So true
Great review Rick!! I think the price of all golf clubs has jumped up recently, a few years ago you could get a new wedge for about £80, now they’re £150!! Scandalous!!
My issue with Scotty Cameron is the same with all manufacturers, the lack of left-handed selection. I own a scotty but when they came out with the new models, the model I currently have is not available in left-handed (newport 2.5). Cost is a factor but not having a choice is a greater choice for us left-handed golfers. Thanks for the video and the channel. Just found it and have been watching and enjoying.
Lefty as well
It surprises me that so many players, esp a professional, ball at the price of a good quality putter. I bought a SC Studio Design back the early 00’s and I haven’t regretted it since. It still performs wonderfully well and is by far the most beautiful putter I’ve ever seen. It instills enormous confidence in me and I see no reason to change it. It still looks very good even now, almost 20 years later. In that time I have gone through 3/4 different drivers and rarely because I felt I needed a change; it was because I didn’t want to be left too far behind in terms of using inferior equipment. My putter can last me the rest of my life as it doesn’t suffer wear and tear and there won’t be any new innovations to improve its performance. I use twice as often as any other club in the bag. A good drive can’t save me from a three putt but a good putt can save me from an errant drive. Drive for show, putt for dough.
Grotesquely overpriced, like all golf clubs today----why? Because manufacturers pay VAST sums to tour pros to "endorse" their products. What a farce!!
Too right, chief!! Still holding up stagecoaches?
Too right, chief! Still holding up stagecoaches?
I bought a SC and it is a precision putter... much better than the pings and odyssey putters I used previously
@@darinjohnson4275 But is it worth $400 USD??....That's prob about $700 in Australian........I could by a bloody car for that much money.......In fact I didn't even pay that much for my car lol :-)
@@28russ are you even kidding me? What car do you have.
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Great timing👍 been looking at these recently, SERIOUSLY helped my thought process
Faire review Rick thank you. I was once a scratch golfer. Been a very long time haven't been on the course but I'll be back soon. I still use probably the cheapest putter and it doesn't even exist anymore (Masters MC-Z 510). Throughout the years I have tried high and low quality putters but I when it was the subject to be accuracy, I have always used my oldie. The only reason is that I always knew how the putter would react at any condition whether out from the fringe, long or short, up or down the slopes. Any equipment are adjusted up to a certain point either your drivers, woods, irons, wedges or putters. However the player has to have a certain level of play and adapt themselves to their tool box and especially putter the tool the is used the most. I love the feel and the looks of high end putters but there is a time to adapt to their characteristics and reaction in game. And a weekend golfer needs minimum of one year to understand and make the most of it. (considering a weekend golfer won't make more than 52 round of 18 holes a year) So basically it probably is up to the consumer to decide but I would keep my "scotty" at home in case. :)
I love playing golf, it’s my hobby and the thing I’ve chosen to enjoy for myself. I’ve just bought a scotty simply because I want one. Now instead of hitting the range with the driver I’m heading out on the putting green. Do particular putters make you sink more? Yes, if they inspire you to putt more in practice.
Great review, please can you do these for all of the putter ranges out this year. Well played
Rick since you done a video on a 20€ driver comparing to a 400€ driver, can’t you do the same in the putters, cheap vs expensive putter.
Yes but like everything, the market drives the price. They wouldn't cost so much if people didn't buy them at the price they are.
Thanks Rick well done. Many moons ago when I did the dumbest thing. I showed up for a round of golf without my Ping anser putter. I panicked I went immediately into the pro-shop with the intent of borrowing a putter. Luckily they had a brand new Scotty Newport 2 for sale. A little under $200 with tax. I bought the putter and had an amazing putting round. Since then it has been wonderful and awful, and has made it in and out of my bag but mostly in. One thing I noticed in the video is the Odyssey putter you were using bounced the ball a lot more than the Scotty? The only negative I have seen with the Scotty versus the Ping is the softness of the metal. My Ping still looks like a brand new putter and I have had it for over 30 years. Where I have had to send my putter to Scotty to restore 3 times. The metal is very soft and dings very easily.
Rick just like you do with Drivers, could you please do a video comparing putters?
Scotty vs Bettinardi vs Odyssey vs Ping etc....
The main advantage I see in this style putter is the ability to tune it to your stroke style. You can swap out different weights in the sole (and maybe in the handle - don't know). But given you can get that same capability in a Kirkland putter at $150, this one at $400 isn't offering a 160% improvement over the Kirkland. What the extra money gets you is mostly the brand name and style points.
And the 20+ years of titleist engineering and research backed by the best players in the game
I've used the same putter for 15 years, buy the one you'll want to use for 15 years
if i'm going to use a fancy piece of steel for 15 years, I probably have it custom milled and not having other people's name on it.
@@humorss so did you get a custom putter made?
@@dangerranger4323 no lol, my putter cost $20. still a stainless steel putter with nickel finish, circular milled face. btw, its not that I haven't tried SC, I have used a blade type for 2 games and an armlock grip mallet for 1 game. both are from relatives and in good condition, I just can't feel the difference.
Average obsessed golfers with lots of money! I love them, makes my good secondhand clubs so much cheaper to buy!
Now that's an awesome reply to any video regarding golf equipment. Sooooo true since I love buying good equipment for a low price!!!
I just bought my second hand Scotty and I love it lol
I just bought a Newport 3 (which I was properly fit to) and I really noticed the difference in performance when it comes to putting. The putter I replaced was an older Cameron from 2005 and the resale value was strong. The putter was worth more than the set of irons I had purchased from the same era.
I went and tested almost ever putter in American golf and clubhouse golf. I wasn’t any better with an SC, Pings felt as good, holed as many with Odyssey but I still bought a special select 2. Why? I simply found it beautiful. It was nice to look at - they say you can’t put a price on beauty but obviously you can. £360
They are pretty but I’d never buy one! Like you said “it’s not gonna make me hole more putts” plus I don’t like the prices of regular golf equipment. That’s why I buy second hand. $400 for a putter and $600 for a driver 😂😂😂 👎🏻👎🏻
To me, as long as a putter has good balance I’ll use it. I got a heavy putter for $60 and I love it!
Expense putters don't make sense to me! Great Video!
I am coming from a high handicappers perspective here (18-22). I had a try with a Scotty Cameron in a shop, and absolute loved it. It felt incredible. i felt, that to me, the feedback was insane, and that my adjustments to correct myself, where represented by the club. However, it has to be said, i have always favoured a heavier putter, as i feel it encourages a more gradual swing and smoother action, so the Cameron would be great for me. My friend however, has always preferred a light putter. He couldn't get round the heavier putters, such as my Ping or the Cameron. So i think at our level, its far more important to be comfortable with feel, and what you almost, psychologically, lend yourself too. Guys in the lower handicap echelons, i think the same principle applies. How many of us, have an old club in our bag, the old trusty get me out of trouble club, all the advancements in tech etc, but your old club....is the one you turn to
Great video and views. I do own a Scotty Cameron Futura X5, I've only had it a few months, I bought it second hand so I managed to save a few $AUD. (It was $300) I have almost always used blade style putters with milled faces so the transition to the X5 was easy in terms of feel. I tried various Odyssey putters, and almost went for the #7 White Hot, but the face insert was too dull for me, it didn't give me the feedback I was looking for. First off, picking up the X5 it feels beautifully balanced and made to a high standard. As I address the ball, it looks amazing and gives me the confidence straight away, the sight lines are excellent and making practise strokes it flows very nicely. I couldn't look down on the TM Spider Tour (especially in RED, WTF is with that?!) or any of the new Odyssey models and have the same confidence. The X5 has classic looks that I want to look down on. The transition to a mallet from a blade was also quite straight forward with such a quality putter. Do I hole more putts? Maybe 1 or 2 per round, was it worth the money? Yes, I enjoy putting again. I do agree that the current models are expensive (to the tune of $550 AUD in stores), and I wouldn't buy a new one. The used model I have will be a keeper for the years to come.
Yes they are! Even if they took 4 hours to make, a putter doesn't make much difference. Just a show off piece. Like having diamonds in your putter wouldn't help but would cost more.
Paid $40 for my current putter and it feels just fine!
Found bags of clubs from a house clean-out . . .
Among the mess were 10 putters, two of them mallets,
My Taylormade Monza Spyder, first version.
The perimeter weighting and sheer mass of the mallet feels superior to any blade I've used.
I gurantee your putter is a joke. Scotty's r the best
runningkirk wa you are a joke
I’m yet to meet a scotty owner who’s blown me away with their putting.
My 60$ tm770 smashed 3 birds and 6 par yesterday lol
i'm still waiting to meet him too
Very good point
Hey nice to meet you.. problem solved?
You should get out more, then ...
Used to have a Scotty a handful of years back. Loved it. Dumb friend of mine broke it. Refused to pay to replace it. Used it as an to try a different putter. So I switched to odyssey. Liked it for a while but didn’t give me the same level of confidence and feel. Switch back recently and I don’t think I’ll go back. There’s something confidence inspiring about putting with a Scotty.
I love the look of the Newport 3. I'm using a Ping Sigma G Tess, which is a blade type as well, and the look and feel make me so much more confident.
Overpriced hype! I can still get the yips or miss a two footer. My Odyssey works equally as well.
Rick, why when you take your first putt with the square back putter 3:12 and the ball goes past the hole the camera breaks away
and when it comes back the ball has been moved back closer to the hole. Was it Scotty that didn't want the ball that far from the
hole or was it you???? Just Curious
Great catch.
It's called a slope😂😂😂
Ur a dumb ass loser
News flash! Videos are edited
Watch the putt at like 2:30 that goes past the hole. It rolls back due to slope and shows it all in one shot.
You should do a review on the toulon design putters.
Rick. Great feedback. I've had my scotty cameron studio design putter for over 14 yrs. I think the money one would pay goes towards the craftsmanship and prestige that comes along with owning one. Its a common occurence that it gets noticed with compliments everytime i pull it out the bag. Vanity can get expensive but for me its worth it. Every now and then i'll ace a put or two.
I did not get fit for a putter but I spent a day at my local golf store on their indoor putting green. I found that I liked the counter balanced putters and I quickly fell in love with a Scotty Cameron Dual Balance 6M. I didn't want to throw down that much money for a new one so I picked up a used dual balance Futura X on Ebay for 1/3 of the price. I couldn't be happier with the putter. It made me a better putter but only because I finally found a putter better suited for my putting style. As others have said, the price of the putter doesn't matter if it doesn't work for your style.
I don't understand the reasoning of using an insert instead of the one piece construction. The major champions who use Scotty's are using older designs such as tiger and jordan. Why change a proven method of success?
Those are $5,000 putters made from German stainless steel. The pros are not using the same putters from the golf store
Because you don't create artificial demand unless your designs look new and "improved" or somehow different.
You can get different inserts for different speeds of the green so one that’s firmer for wet conditions and softer for firmer conditions so you can still make the same stroke but it will go 2-5 feet further or shorter
I get all that. I just have some issues with the look of the insert. Scotty is known for the beauty of his craftsmanship and I feel that the insert takes some of that away. His biggest improvement that I admire is the change of the sole so it sits square at address.
The insert improves the feel imo
£60 - Nike
Feel like once you are used to a putter it doesn't make a huge difference
I'll stick with my ping zing ,if you look hard enough you can find a used one cheaper
Many years ago I had a Scotty lacuna putter. I loved it. Due to injuries I sold all my clubs and in the last few years I have been interested in getting some of my old stuff back. But the Scotty is one I just can't justify. As rick said, there are putters just as good and half the price. I think the have got to the point of almost only being a status symbol. Odyssey for one make many putters I think are better than the titleist one I had.
Hi Rick just catching up with videos and watched the Scotty Cameron one. Bought the Futura X7M dual balanced 38inch 18 months ago. What a putter. Helped fund the purchase by trading in unused clubs. At the time it cost £249. But over the last 25 rounds I have averaged 29 putts around. Very pleased with it. Griz.
All clubs are overpriced nowadays, ridiculous.
I just wish I could get any of the equipment you test and review😔
I paid $65US for my secondhand mizuno bettinardi c-04 and i love it!
Great & honest reviews on the Cameron putters Rick. I’ve owned atleast a dozen of them in the past. Ended up using an old Mizuno BC2 Black Carbon Bettinardi design. Sold all of my Cameron putters except for just one of them. Kept a mint Te-I3 Newport II Long Neck. It’s such a classic beauty! Alway’s looking forward to your next video! Stay safe, and keep healthy Rick. Keep swing’n them beautiful drive’s! Thanks Rick. Cheer’s!
I bot a Golo 5, years ago. I thought at the time is was fairly expensive, but it was my Christmas present to myself. I'd buy it again. Love the feel. And yes, I do put better. I think I've become a very good putter with it. Last time out I just could not miss. I'll say this, every thing is more expensive now. And it ain't getting any cheaper. I've let friends use it as they have asked, and all said the same, nice putter. Thanks for your work. Enjoy your channel.
“Why have they doubled in price?” Greed...
Tell us why you would sell something for half the price you could get for it?
more like supply and demand
Andrew D Supply and demand😂. No there are just more people stupid enough to pay ridiculous prices for a putter that is no better than a $30 putter at any sporting goods store.
@@Chance-ry1hq definitely truth to that as well lol but it's still demand nonetheless
Price has always been higher on scotty's, I've played one since I was 15 and spent 500 back then on a Tei3
? I've had mine since 1998, I would say I got my moneys worth...
"Wish" sells a SC newport 2 you should test it.
DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM WISH. Wish is only a broker and the sellers sell counterfeit items. I bought M4 irons that are junk.
i've demo'd a lot of putters, at the end of the day, my odyssey 2 ball putter gives me more confidence than anything i've tried before
I have owned a Scotty Cameron Teryllium Sante Fe, and Red X, and as of yesterday a fastback. It came down to the fastback and an Odyssey EXO Rosie. I was a little more comfortable on shorter puts with the Rosie, which made me feel like I may own my first Odyssey putter, but they extra sound a feel of the Fastback made my distance control on longer puts much better. I love that the Cameron's spare no expense on materials and construction and have paid more for almost every driver I have owned.
Sorry! I heavily bat an eyelid at £400 pound for a driver... Now with the custom fitting options I hit up demo days and remember the spec and pick up the club 2nd hand about 12/18 months later for a 1/3 of the price!
yousaidwinglikeabirdswing ssshhhhh don't tell everyone the secret
Asking golfers if Scotty Camerons are worth the price is like asking car owners if a Ferrari is worth the price. A cheap car will still get you from A to B !
The only people who moan about the price are those who can't afford them.
At least a Cameron won't spend 3/4 of its life in the shop. I know my Ferrari did.
I was going to say... maybe use Porsche in this metaphor? Maybe it’s overpriced and the person driving might not be able to push the car to its limits, but for those that can and do use the car for more than “looking cool”... well, to that person it’s not over priced at all.
My older brother uses a Scotty putter. I use a generic no name putter. I sink more putts than him, and he has way better vision than I do. Of course, he uses new titleist irons while I use 1983/84 Ben hogans and I still strike better than him!
There you go, what I've been saying all along. It's in the person NOT the club. Keep hitting them straight buddy.
I am a new follower of your channel. I like the way you approach the lessons. Simple articulation of technicalities make your videos very useful for club level golfers like myself. So a BIG thank you from my side 👍
This was a very thought provoking video Rick. Great discussion points too.
I own a Scotty Cameron myself. Putting is a lot about confidence & for some people knowing that you are buying the best adds immensely to that confidence.
Like you said, it doesn't guarantee more putts as an equipment per se but the added confidence might help in making more.
All good things comes at a price; especially when there is no other option which can boast of same creds.
Its like a Mercedes S Class. If you want the best car in the World (S class is generally regarded as such) then you have got to pay the price the maker asks for it as there is no other benchmark.
Hence statements like 'equally good at half the price' only amplify the brand image & aspirational value of it.
I bought a new putter recently and it was a third of the price. First round with it I holed 3 long birdie putts, felt great off the face and can’t imagine how much better it could be paying that much for a putter. I think putting has more to do with how the putter feels when you use it, rather than the price tag or which brand it is. Also Rick, you tested the putter I now have last year,I think it was in turkey (could be wrong) and sang it’s praises. Great review as usual, look forward to the next one Rick 👍
I putted one at the local Roger Dunn in Santa Ana, and let me tell you. I think I jizzed in my pants. I have an old Newport 2 and my current putter is a Bettinardi BB8 and love both. But that new insert feels so nooice!
I agree...the 2018 line is really really nice. I was not a fan of the clicky 2016 inserts. If anyone tried a 2016 and didn't like the feel...TRY THE 2018's!
They're butter for sure.
3:20 gotta love that nice
Putters are worth the price it’s the only club you use on every hole so I think it’s worth it 👍🏻
And some of us really get our money's worth, because I've used my putter 4 times on one hole a few times
Worth mentioning too that those tour putters are closer to the 5k - 10k range. But I absolutely love my Scotty, and I enjoy the "world of Scotty" that one can emerse themselves in if they are a fan. His headcovers are fun, great high quality apparel, and like you said it's just a great looking and feeling putter.
I think scottys have become more of a status symbol rather than "more" functional. I have owned several scottys and they are pretty and great craftsmanship. I picked up a Wilson 8802 Milled for $180, sold my scottys and have not looked back. The only neg feedback I have on scottys is the face insert, I personally am not a fan. I also picked up a used Rife Bimini, great putter. I guess in the end, if you need a $400 putter to putt well, then that is your price point. This is not a scotty hater comment for all the purists out there, the newport 3, the heel shafted model i tried it out, felt good and rolled well. after sinking a few putts at the store with it, it did nothing more for me that my 8802 doesnt. get what makes you feel confident on the green. Great video. well done Rick.
honestly, as long as you have a flat face, you dont need anything else to putt well
So true----but don't say it too loudly or the manufacturers will put out a contract on you.
I think putting more psychological than other stroke you'll take on the course. If buying a $400 putter is going to make you more comfortable then have at it. If you're more comfortable with a red rubber mallet from a miniature golf course then that's fine too. Ultimately confidence is what it's all about.
my stepdad out putts me with an old L/t faced wilson putter every day of the week vs my 2 ball odyssey and i thought that putter made me better....
Short answer: YES. Long answer: HELL YES
Scottu Camerons are great clubs. They look and feel great 👍 However in my opinion you pay a lot off beacause the branding. If you have extra money just buy it and you get beatifull and guality putter. However, you can get also good putters much cheaper.
I bought a new Monterey, California Scotty for $275 a few years back. It was my second putter purchase ever. I love it and probably will play it for life. I don't mind it being expensive when you know it is going to last so much longer than any other club in the bag. I had restore the paint when it wore down and good as new.
This video popped up on my suggested videos to watch and really enjoyed it. Think it is good to weigh the pros and cons. Now I am not an experienced player. In fact I haven't really played for the last 20 years but are looking to get back into it. My take on putters is that a putter is a putter and the best one for you is the one that feels best from the face and gives you most confidence when standing over the putt. The rest is up to your stroke, green reading abilities and weight on each putt. Anyways, love your channel Rick
We gladly pay $ 400.00 for the designs he stole from Karsten Solheim.
Hammer tell me more
Hammer really? You’re comparing the Cameron’s to Ping’s anser putters?
I bought an Evnroll over a Scotty. The feel is crisp and 50 bucks cheaper.
probably a wise decision as well
But did you have a evnroll and not a Scotty. It’s like getting a zune
Yes overpriced
I held out close to 15yrs to get my Dream putter, the OG Scotty Cameron Futura. Back when it was first released, I'm pretty sure it was $200-250 range and rarely would I see a lefty model. I always had to use it right handed at golf shops, just to try it out. I always loved the feel, look and sound of it. I finally managed to get one on eBay for just under $90 without the hardcover. I did eventually get that too. They still hold their value for sure. Hard to find a futura under $100, in left handed. I didn't even bother with the divot tool.
Correct me if m wrong but with putting you take the putter back a set distance (not far)depending on how long he putt is and then try to hit the ball in the middle and if you have chosen the right line(which has nothing to do with the putter) you should be there or there about! Seeing as you take every other club back further and have all sorts of there things to consider I would be inclined to spend more on other clubs.
Got a question for a Scotty Cameron aficionado...
About 12-15yrs ago while playing a round w/ my grandpa I tried 1 of his friends Scotty Cameron. From what I remember of the club it was a traditional blade style putter, it had a tan grip & a black club head (or putter head). The distinguishing feature that I remember is the weight of the club wasn’t balanced at all. The putter face or club head was much heavier, making the putter noticeably bottom heavy. I’ve used several Scotty Cameron’s & owned a couple since then, but never had one that felt like that.
My question is, is there a Scotty Cameron model that’s produced regularly that’s known for having a heavier putter head like that, or was it just that years club? I really loved the feel of that putter
I just bought one an hour ago. Putting is my strength and I’ve used an old white ice for the last ten years but needed something longer. I tried other putters that felt good but I like the way the Newport looks the most. After fit and feel, I like my club to be aesthetically pleasing and the others didn’t suit my eye. I’m sure I could have saved some money; but if this is what a lot of my favorite pro’s use, I take comfort in knowing that if I miss a putt it was my stroke and not my gear... I wouldn’t suggest this putter if you still have gaps in your bag though. Also, if I spend 400 on a club, I’m going to practice more with it.
Well I use a $90 aud putter and I find it well balanced good feel and I think it's what you adapt to and on the day it's all about you and how you are putting, good or bad. Cheers
I struggled for years with my putting using a low priced Wilson then a mid priced putter from Taylor made and then a high end odyssey, i never felt comfortable with any of them. Then i got my Scotty and my putting just improved massively, maybe as the design suited me but my confidence was up as i felt my off centre putts did not punish me like my old insert putters! However i had mine for 2 years now before prices went up massively, and im not sure i would go and pay £365.00 today for another one!!!!
Hey Rick, just got my new Scotty Newport 2.5, 34”, it feels more stable and I feel that I could change the weights to a slightly lighter weight possibly, but wow what a nice putter, excellent work on the reviews.
Great video! I very much like your idea on purchasing a cheaper putter and spend the money you saved on putting lesson makes a lot of sense for a higher handicapper, but if your a lower handicapper and you can afford the Scotty Cameron putter why not, they are all works of art.
My favorite putter is an old Odyssey Backstryke, witch I think I spent about $110,00 for new. Now when I buy a new putter I just try them out and take the one that feels good. I have light putters and heavy putters I use on differernt greens fast or slow. I never pay more than $100.00 and often under 60.00 and when I'm done with them I'll buy a new one and sell the old one for about $5.00 at a garage sale or throw it away. They all work as long as the ball goes where you want it to go when you hit it in the center of the club face.
I just purchased my forever custom-made Ping Anser D PLD putter. It's an absolute joy putting with it, and it felt buttery soft. I tried Scotty and Bettinardi but Ping won.
I have a Scotty 2.5 Newport which cost £190.00 about 10 years ago. Every other club in my bag has been changed but this baby has always stayed. I have re-gripped it a few times, it has had a couple of different headcovers but like Triggers brush it is still original.
I have an older toe weighted Scotty Newport Two and a Centre shaft balanced Odyssey 2 ball putter. I like them both and game both of them regularly. I probably putt a little better with the Odyssey since I'm more of a "back and through" style putter....but I get a ton of enjoyment from playing both of them. The good thing about spending on a putter is that you can play it for years and not feel like you're losing out on all the new tech the way you might feel with drivers.