@@timthetoolmantaylor9048 Well this game (according to the review) jerks off Lilith and Ava, even the ending song says "This girl is on fire" so I assume they needed to credit her with all yhe shit we did. Lilith was a weak af character in BL2 beyond a few moments at the end where she shines.
@@cjmk5923 Doesn't matter if she dealt the killing blow. The Vault Hunters from 2 killed The Warrior AND crippled Jack. Not to mention all the other crap they did to save the planet and the remaining original Vault Hunters.
I mean technically he did. Pandora is filled with lunatics and dangerous creatures but it's a perfect place for humanity to move when Earth gets overpopulated/destroyed. Handsome Jack's plan was to whipe out all life on the planet, yes that sounds bad but the bandits are not exactly reasonable. Could he have done it better with the crimson raiders? No. It's shown in the pre-sequal that the "leaders" of the crimson raiders were former friends of Jack that betrayed him. Almost all his life he has been betrayed, abused and just hated even though he just wanted to do good things. Please watch Game Theory's video on the matter if you haven't already. Its so good and made me feel so different every time I play through the game! It really made me see Jack as the hero he truly was.
Is borderlands complicated like division 1 and 2 with the mods gear or whatever it is that is in the game. I'm new to borderlands and looking for something new to play?
@@LunaPPK well they nerfed areas with insane farming like loot tinks being guarenteed as even with the amount of loot you get in the game thats a bit much...
The writing really gives off “how do you do, fellow kids” vibes to me. They’re desperately trying to appeal to a teenage and preteen demographic, but most of it doesn’t land.
I've been playing the borderlands games for a while, since i was like 12. I'm 21 now and the jokes were just painfully unfunny to me. And the thing is, i wanted to give this game the benefit of the doubt, but by the end i was just disappointed by the writing and story
Yeah the jokes fell off too, it's literally the definition of "lol xd" borderlands 2 had some cringe humor but it was mostly actual jokes not fucking "Amazeballs"
I've gone back this month to replay B2 to see if it really was all that and I'm laughing on an "every 5-10 minutes basis" which is a lot for such a long game, and it's far more than 3 which I think made me laugh once. So yeah it's not in your heads, part 3's writing took a huge nose dive. I think the craziest part is how much of a drop off between villains the entries took. Handsome Jack was amazing and I loved being able to push his shit in through the game , and with the calliosos I was just in a constant state of cringe, plus the tyreen chick sounds like Mickey mouse
@@MIXMASTER6991 Except they weren't she lost her family and had to live life on the run constantly. Spoilers follow... Then she met someone who cared but took away her freedom which would be hard. Then that person dies protecting her and her whole world has fallen apart again. You can say it is her fault that person died but not really it is Lilith's fault for bringing a kid into a vault monster room. An angry emotional kid.
The writing team is different. They have none of the old writers. In fact, the writers for this game have absolutely zero writing credits before this game. It kinda shows...
The story after killing Troy felt so incredibly dragged out. In fact, everything you do on Nekrosomething makes so little sense. The planet's setting is incredible, but I just wanted the story to finally end, so I can start with TVHM and mayhem stuff already.
I had concerns as soon as I knew Anthony Burch left the writing team. People don't realize how much his humor injected life into the series. For reference check out the series HAWP, his sister on the channel is the original voice of tina!
I personally never really liked Claptrap, but hilariously this game had me actually liking him and enjoying his little bits of commentary cause it wasn't much or often. However for the most part I've been dissapointed by the story and characters.
If Jack made butt jokes, he was also strangling someone or ordering ponies made out of diamonds! While the twins made butt jokes, it was more like they had a lot of fun in the recording booth snickering and all. It felt so childish and immature. Well, maybe because they are still a bunch of kids while living on Whateverthatplanetiscalled. I miss Jack and I still hope Borderlands 4 will have Handsome Jack returning in a body. (As the Jackhammer sometimes talks to you: "Eeeey, what if we look for a loader bot and you upload me in there! :D :D ")
They really screwed themselves with Jack. It’s no surprise we all expected better in the villain department. There’s still hope for DLC. Make Ava the villain.
@Damien Garcia You know what the best way to do that is? Have everyone tell you shes important, without you know her actually doing anything impressive or important.
Honestly borderlands 2 had the best story, handsome Jack was an absolute perfect villain, but these two as villains was like 10 steps back, I don’t like the bad guys were just wannabe UA-camrs,
I agree 100% I never got turned off during BL2 story, yes it could be bothersome since you’re hearing the same things every time; but It never threw me off. Compared to this trash story of BL3 which is focused on females characters only. And on top of that It should’ve been Tina the main girl of this story, but I had to be this annoying little fucker called Ava which makes no sense in the entire story line
I actually like the idea of villains that use social media to control a cult but gearbox doubled down wayyyy to hard on the intentional cringe and so final product is just cringe
one departed and the entire vibe of the game shifted when he killed Roland, cause up to that point he just talked crazy like haha I’m gonna kill you guys, then he really does and you’re like oh shit
@@blueamsol yeah your right. The twins are your typical youtuber twitch person. And tyreen is more bearable then alot of them. Troy is the trashy part of the duo
I think that's why a lot of youtubers don't like the twins. Especially when they shit on the twins and then end the video with "like, subscribe and punch that like button! Oh and don't forget to ring the bell! " (or some iteration of). It's like the saying "the truth hurts" they know its making an ass out of em and they feel uncomfortable by it.
@@TheAwesomeDarkNinja Given what has been happening in gaming news recently i can't necessarily blame him for feeling this way. Do i agree with it: no. But it's understandable to see why Mac Afro feels this way.
The story in this game was for sure not too great but the whole section with Katagawa and Rhys was pure gold. I replayed it just for that part and I firmly believe Katagawa would've made a Jack-tier villain given enough development.
I feel like Katagawa should have been the main villain, Troy and Tyreen should have been scrapped out immediately. With enough development like you said, Katagawa could and should have been the main villain with Maliwan as the big threat. I also feel like the Traunt brothers could have been like the army commanders, one for the light army and the other for the blackforce (or whatever) army.
Very much agree they could’ve made the whole game about Maliwan vs atlas and saved a lot more money and made lots more people happy while saving money to make wonderlands or borderlands 4
Honestly, I think that's the biggest problem with Jack. He left such a huge impact that any antagonistic threat afterwards is essentially doomed to live in his shadow, and be constantly compared to him, along with standards which could lead to some unreasonable expectations. Plus, I think the Calypsos were a case of where the writers tried so hard to parody obnoxious internet influencers, like the Paul Brothers, that they ended up emulating the obnoxious nature of those people too well.
Borderlands always seemed to be at least somewhat aware of it, trying to make sure you get your credit but no, this time, its them and them only. Fuck it
Isnt that kinda of weird how the trailer for BL3 with tannis, vault key and vault hunters, it seem like the vault hunters were going to be animated in cutscene. But since that wasn't case the awkward cutscene with maya death and the vault just doing nothing on the sidelines.
@『Platnum Breaker』 I mean, that was a big fuck you to the B2 vault hunters, including Maya. If its suppose to SEEM to everyone at large that Lillith did it but the characters know that isnt the case, that would be fine but Ava talks as if thats what actually happened.
Competent writers that incorporated the beloved established characters over almost 15 years of gameplay, instead of shit on ALL of them and kill the most important ones off
If you take your time in the game, you get to experience a bit of Tina. Probably more than in Part 2. Unless you rush through things and backtrack for the side quests...
Yea so many characters are missing or have wierd plots also I feel mayhem mode kinda ruined the late game just made it a more rng version of ultimate vaukthunter mode
Handsome Jack: Maniacal leader trying to purge the planet because he truly believes he is the hero of the story. Also incredibly funny to boot Calypsos: The Paul brothers
the writing shows how disconnected they are with what people love about the first two games, forcing dogshit narratives down our throat. its a shame because the gameplay is such a step up from bl2
They could have given the shooting mechanics and movement a bit more attention cause they feel pretty generic which isnt really good concidering its the thing u do all the time
I loved jack, he was the top, those quotes of his were golden. When you leave the hamerlock village he calls you and: "Hey you think youll freeze to death out there? NAH probably not. The bandits will get you. How was my day? Pretty good, just bought a pony made of diamonds. Yeah, because im rich!" All the while hes eating a pretzels, man those were the times
The best part is the pretzels bit was unscripted. Dameon Clarke was actually snacking on pretzels during a take and that "God these pretzels suck" was a legit reaction he had, and they loved it so much they made that the official take.
People aren’t going to like every character. What fuckin guy wants to be around an irrational preteen who lost her only role model and is now on a ship with strangers. Y’all really don’t get the mental state of some of these characters. At least they feel fleshed out and have more depth than killing machines. Maybe that was a bad decision borderlands took, but not everyone can be tiny Tina’s. Some of them are representations of real people in a situation like this. Honestly I’ll say this again how’re most people (especially in their most delicate and fragile mindset) going to react? Sorry for the rant I just understand the psychology of some of these characters and appreciate the realness some of them provide. Are they fucking annoying? Yes. Half the people you’ll encounter will piss you off in real life, at least we can kill them (most of them) without consequences
Like her or hate her I liked my own side commentary when she broke down on the bridge. Granted I didn’t really say anything nice like the rest of you but that’s some shit that she would probably do anyway
You were the guy that lied about anthem being really good... Convinced everyone it would be good from your play testing when it was horrid... I unsubbed
@@ZacharyHampton people being occasionally annoying and unlikeable in real life is no excuse for writing annoying and unlikable characters and then trying to force them into the center of the narrative, even though they barely matter.
13:52 I just beat this game for the first time as Amara, and I COMPLETELY feel this. You can tell Amara is a very strong Siren, yet we need to pretend like during every major showdown she isn't there? Like after Troy's fight, Typhon's death, MAYA'S DEATH, she's just not there? Like come on dude, the entire power dynamic of the whole game changes when you have a FOURTH siren on your team
That's honestly the worst thing about the series at this point; that they still haven't included the playable characters as actual... characters. For some reason they're never included into main stories and totally ignored in cut scenes. Why insert a new character no one cares about (Ava) and put her as the main "protag" when your playable character is standing right there and could have taken that role. Really weird story telling.
I hated how every cutscene acts like you aren't standing right there and the game just happens around you instead of involving you. Maya's death was HORSESHIT
@@nicknapalm8560 payday doesn't have chocolate it's a Snickers, they used the same thing in their old Evolve video when other Joe is the tracker and he eats it lmao.
Other Joe is definitely the best actor out of all them. He is really a pro at doing Angry Joe Skits at this point 👏 Absolutely love seeing him do stupid parodies in silly costumes everytime. 😂
I think they're all solid as far as doing a skit goes. But yeah OJ seems to be on the improv classes or something. After that rdr2 review I cannot stop seeing how good he is.
How to write the Calypsos better: Try to hammer home the fact that they provide the bandits with a sense of family and community. Make the twins guilt the player into believing that they’re monsters for slaughtering bandits (their family) when they’re simply victims of corporate greed
Granted, I'm not very deep in to the story (only play with the mrs, and it takes effort to push through with horizontal splitscreen + we work different schedules - so we've only just beaten katagawa ball)... but so far what you suggested is literally 90% of all the echo-calls from the calypsos... "family this, giving bandits purpose that, corporate wars fucked everybody, family family vault bandits family"
@@jonathanzupan7295 That drops off pretty fast when the twins realize the vault hunter isn't interested in their shtick. Like, before you even leave Pandora Tyreen is trying to flex on the VH by telling a bandit to cut off his own legs for her.
Gearbox: "damn, our game needs a new story and characters." What they came up with: - "Quirky teenage live-streamers kill off super-powerful and memorable characters in cut-scenes" What they ignored: - Rhys: kills a vault monster in a power-ranger-style fight sequence - Tales From the Borderlands: ends on a huge teaser - Handsome jack: stuck in AI form at the end of the game according to cannon decision - Fiona: entire character ark for Tales From the Borderlands centered around being a vault hunter, was obvious she was going to be a playable character - Athena: is the true cannon protagonist of the Pre-sequel, is saved by a sentient vault guardian, alluding Athena is super important (nope) - Helios: is so large it casts a planet size shadow, is only a back drop (BL2 DLC had it as a level but c'mon, its the size of freaking' Elpis) - Eplis: residents are not cared for and ignored, despite it being pulled out of the sky at one point - Pandora Vault key: has a major plot point about being broken, is magically repaired when Ava uses it - Lilith and the fight for sanctuary: not recapped for those who didn't play it - Scarlett: leaves at the end of her DLC, is still alive - Crimson raiders: where the majority of them went after the end of the newest BL2 DLC - Hyperion Employees: form a huge faction, is never mentioned - Eridians: never clearly explained what the look like or why the destroyer killed their entire race - Vaults: "thousands" of vaults seen in BL2, apparently only 4 matter now (not about the lack of them, several others have been opened, but they don't do anything special) - sirens: a LOT more than 6 exist at one time, which apparently is impossible according to lore The characters that were ignored: - Athena - Axton - Gaige - Salvador - Torgue - Dr Zed - Sasha - Fiona - Scarlett - janey Springs - Gortys - Loader Bot
Gearbox: "Quirky Twitch streamers are a really funny joke, we should revolve their entire personality around this sole concept and make them the center of our entire concluding trilogy!" ~ Edit: some stuff is wrong
Thank you for pointing these out cuz Scarlett still out there alot was left out or it's going to be in dlcs but alot of important stuff as you said isn't in the game which should have been cuz of all people I thought Athena would have played a bigger part
Everything you mentioned is my problem with this game. And the fact that suddenly Lillith is the almighty savior that needed no help completely excluding Roland or any male influence
Also, Lilith is treated like a hero even though she is the one who almost single handedly created Handsome Jack, nearly killed Athena, destroying Sanctuary, and shows a darker side to her; revealing that we are the villains our selves. But nope, biggest hero of the year! Hero my ASS!! This game should have focused more on her being the villain instead of the stupid Calypso Twins. Way to go Gearbox, way to freaking go.
Cameron Cascagnette They can’t do all this in one game. This will take several games. If they did all this in one game, everybody who’s complaining about the calpyso twins now would complain that gearbox just stuffed everything into one game.
Kalo47 they weren’t gonna make the Lilith the villain. They never would’ve. She’s too much of a great character. I would’ve hated this game if they made Lilith the villain.
Remember that time when Lilith ordered you to run down a ginormous tank the size of a football stadium with a truck? It's like Tyreen also leeched out some IQ from her
I felt weird playing amara through the story. The whole story had such a heavy prevalence of the sirens and amara was just another vault hunter watching everything
was the same if you played as maya in bl2. they would at times say they only have one siren (refering to lilith), completely ignoring the fact that maya is a siren too.
@@DDracee yeah it was basically the same thing in borderlands 2 where the focus was mainly on lilith and on angel when you find out she is also a siren. You also have that really weird scene where you basically watch roland get shot. You would think theyd actually include the vault hunters in the story this time. Especially when you gave WAYYY too much focus on 3 characters. 1 which people fucking hated. The other which people didnt like and lilith who i get is the commander but was yet again given so much attention compared to everyone else who barely got fleshed out.
Did anyone else think Troy was going to overthrow Tyreen?? The story definitely seemed to be heading in that direction, especially in the scene where he talks directly to us saying something along the lines of being tired of being the leech (which could've been his plan, leech power until hes super powerful). The story would've been better if it went that way imo.
@@Gio-xz2ep Troy deserved better hell I'd pay for a deluxe edition just to see Troy do us all a favor and shut his annoying ass sister up. And become the villain we really need.
I already figure that they would turn on each other once they got what they wanted it katagawa should been main threat over them since it was original plan however they went with plan b😒👎
The Calypsos sounded like better villains on paper than in practice. They were extremely cringey and only got more interesting towards the end of the game
@@23kurtzy I didnt get a girl power vibe hmmm wonder why else she might be in the story. Ohhhhhhhhh maybe its because only women can be sirens and not any other reason. They put her in so she could be the next siren after maya I twat
@@unversedhero6028 No, they don't. What does it mean - "they are suppose to be like that"? Who decide that? Where is it written? If it's your opinion - ok, but otherwise, really, why the hell they "suppose" to be like that? I mean, why antagonists in one of the greatest action-rpg of our time should be so boring and empty? Even thieves in "Home alone" have more personality, more respectable traits, and we know nothing about their previous storyline.
@@FReeck216 They are supposed to be like that because of where they come from and who they are. The way they act makes perfect sense for their upbringing and their age.
All four of the Vault hunters played a part of Handsome Jacks death but Lilith got all the credit. Mordecai took over when Lilith was captured and found out where the Warrior is. Brick help get to the tower and helped get to the warrior by blowing up that bridge and both help stage the final attack but no credit
Rhys: I will never forgive Katagawa for destroying Lazy River Land. I used to take my team there to unwind! And now I'm wound! And all out of bagels! Me: Ahaha, what a story, Mark!
I mean after seeing thw positive reaction to the borderlands humor, it was predictable they'd overdo it for the presequel, and that made it obvious they'd make it more PC and also way too focused on the more boring characters.
Literally finished the game yesterday. And I've hated the humor so much in 2, and the pre sequel that I couldn't finish them. The humor is just as immature and filled with fart jokes as the rest of them. I literally don't see how in the hell everyone hates the dialogue in this game but can stomach the other ones. Yes, handsome jack was the exception when it comes to the writing but he couldn't save the entire game. Maybe it's a nostalgia thing but this games humor seems on par with every other borderlands (not Tales, Tales is the best writing borderlands has had and I wish gearbox would let telltale take control of story)
@@ProcyonDei To hear Jack's final words and let lilith get her revenge? Plus you can do it multiple times so you can kill him as many times as you want.
8/10 is what I'd give it. Gameplay wise it is the best in the series, but B2 is still the best overall because the writing and story and all that was just so amazing. Take gameplay of B3 with the writers of B2 and that game would be a masterpiece.
Sloan Anderson true but without the BL2 writers it make BL3 story 5 times cringe or 10 times cringe and imo if I beat the game and I would never want to play it again because of the twins
Bro people shit all over BL2 for being unfunny when it came out. Borderlands 1 was really the only one that was tolerable, BL2 is when they just cranked it to 11 with the annoying humor and they kept it there.
@@retrolives3799 People are gonna whiteknight BL2 now that its cool to shit on BL3 right now but honestly youre not wrong. Borderlands 1 rode a nice line then they just cranked it up to the highest levels from then on
Balex was the most hilarious part of the main story for me. Wish they made him one of the lead characters because his personality beats out Lillith by a long shot, especially since they paid so much to have him in the game.
@Michael Bradley You're obviously a dumb-ass troll account who doesn't actually know how the voice-acting industry works. Go back to your mom's basement.
jack couch I’m super excited for that, but still a bummer having to wait an entire year for his BL3 debut. Also some tech savvy folks got into the files and found that Krieg was supposed to have a role in the main story. IIRC, Krieg was a spy for Lilith and was supposed to be rescued by the player on Promethea. I’m guessing somewhere along the way they scraped that idea, canned him from the story and created the coffee obsessed person (forgot her name) to replace him. Super disappointed when I read that, honestly :/
just finished the game.............. Mayhem mods are solid. Also replaybility of borderlands was NEVER due to story but VARIETY of guns. Play it one more time when you are bored ok.
To be fair Tyreene had 1 pretty good bit. "Hey you! Cut off your foot!" *"YES MY GOD QUEEN!"* "Wait, no! Not both of them! Oh... He cut both off. Oh... He's trying to stand on his stumps... Okay hang on second." *Psycho screams out in pain and dies* "Sorry. They just taste better when their afraid... What was my point again? Oh right! My followers would die for me!"
I mean tbf her Psycho follower was the funny part of that bit and Psychos have always been funny. But I'll admit I didn't hate Tyreene as much Joe did lol.
I watched a video explaining the entire story of Borderlands 3. I've been wondering where in the hell is Fiona? We still don't know what happened to her after Tales from the Borderlands.
I’LL SLICE YOUR EYELIDS SO YOU CAN WATCH THE END! But for real thank god someone gets it, I’ve never wanted to rampage more than after I saw those twin villains.
Troy had a lot of potential and they could have gone in various directions with his character. But they didn’t, and anything that was being hinted or implied was thrown out the window, which is a shame. He wouldn’t have been the next Handsome Jack, but it would have made the game better.
The one joke I liked was when a random enemy died he said “Tell my kids I wish I had them!”
My chili recipe dies with me
My toe collection remains unfinished!
Swear I've also heard " I deserved that"
Mine was in bl2 a random would say "I swore I'd never kill again but screw it!
Rember me like a foot taller
"You saved Pandora, You killed Handsome Jack!"
Lilith didnt do shit, we did that.
Not sure who wrote that part, we literally saved her from Jack and then killed him with our bare hands
@@timthetoolmantaylor9048
Well this game (according to the review) jerks off Lilith and Ava, even the ending song says "This girl is on fire" so I assume they needed to credit her with all yhe shit we did.
Lilith was a weak af character in BL2 beyond a few moments at the end where she shines.
@@kp5602 Lilith kills Handsome Jack. You can choose to but this game makes the ending where you let her kill him Canon.
@@kp5602 That's what's crazy, if it wasn't for us and that sweet, sweet eridium she'd probably be dead in the first hour of BL2.
@@cjmk5923 Doesn't matter if she dealt the killing blow. The Vault Hunters from 2 killed The Warrior AND crippled Jack. Not to mention all the other crap they did to save the planet and the remaining original Vault Hunters.
I wanna believe that joe sleeps with his jacket and Superman shirt on
You beat me to this comment hahahah I was thinking the same thing
I think Joe love Superman!😂
@@division6005 NO REALLY
it’s just true
They sleep together too.
I feel like this what Jack was trying to save us from...we never should have killed him 😭
You just said the borderlands version of "hitler did nothing wrong"
I mean technically he did. Pandora is filled with lunatics and dangerous creatures but it's a perfect place for humanity to move when Earth gets overpopulated/destroyed. Handsome Jack's plan was to whipe out all life on the planet, yes that sounds bad but the bandits are not exactly reasonable. Could he have done it better with the crimson raiders? No. It's shown in the pre-sequal that the "leaders" of the crimson raiders were former friends of Jack that betrayed him. Almost all his life he has been betrayed, abused and just hated even though he just wanted to do good things. Please watch Game Theory's video on the matter if you haven't already. Its so good and made me feel so different every time I play through the game! It really made me see Jack as the hero he truly was.
@@MonstertruckBadass But he didnt.
@@MonstertruckBadass he faught greedy vault hunters the only problem happened with him was his mental health and his distrust.
he wanted good .
@Perfect Shadow l0l
"Who'd put shit in a loot box?" NBA 2K reaction gif right there
Best Surprise ... Ever
Or an EA reaction gif
AngryJoe: "The loot is plentiful and amazing!"
Anthem: "The game must be broken."
Top comment lol
Borderlands3: "We concur, hotfix nerfing loot sources has been deployed."
Is borderlands complicated like division 1 and 2 with the mods gear or whatever it is that is in the game. I'm new to borderlands and looking for something new to play?
@@iwinl0l its sad because they actually did nerf loot drops
@@LunaPPK well they nerfed areas with insane farming like loot tinks being guarenteed as even with the amount of loot you get in the game thats a bit much...
*Ava yelling at Lilith*
Ava: You saved Pandora, You killed Handsome Jack!
Zer0: Excuse me?
Zero: Am I a joke to you
Axton and Salvador: Are we jokes to you BL3?
@@EquestrianKatz Krieg: IS THE MEAT MAN A JOKE TO YOU?
maya rolling in her grave
Axton: "My fucking turret accomplished more in the last game than the entire BL1 cast"
The writing really gives off “how do you do, fellow kids” vibes to me. They’re desperately trying to appeal to a teenage and preteen demographic, but most of it doesn’t land.
I've been playing the borderlands games for a while, since i was like 12. I'm 21 now and the jokes were just painfully unfunny to me. And the thing is, i wanted to give this game the benefit of the doubt, but by the end i was just disappointed by the writing and story
Yeah the jokes fell off too, it's literally the definition of "lol xd" borderlands 2 had some cringe humor but it was mostly actual jokes not fucking "Amazeballs"
I've gone back this month to replay B2 to see if it really was all that and I'm laughing on an "every 5-10 minutes basis" which is a lot for such a long game, and it's far more than 3 which I think made me laugh once. So yeah it's not in your heads, part 3's writing took a huge nose dive. I think the craziest part is how much of a drop off between villains the entries took. Handsome Jack was amazing and I loved being able to push his shit in through the game , and with the calliosos I was just in a constant state of cringe, plus the tyreen chick sounds like Mickey mouse
Handsome Jack spoiled us. We forgot how BL felt without a great villain.
The calypso twins weren't that bad
The twins were bad period...
Handsome Jack is a great villain in my opinion he fools everyone thinking he's the real hero of borderlands now that's what I call great writing
@Hovjez Vrcholný Fair Point
Overrated game, boring as f, most of the jokes got corny real fast.
Throwing in the “angry child character” always ruins a story
She is not angry until a certain thing happens and considering her suffering it makes perfect sense.
Wrong!
I think it could work but you have to have a legit reason to be angry. All her problems were caused by her in the story
@@MIXMASTER6991 Except they weren't she lost her family and had to live life on the run constantly. Spoilers follow...
Then she met someone who cared but took away her freedom which would be hard.
Then that person dies protecting her and her whole world has fallen apart again. You can say it is her fault that person died but not really it is Lilith's fault for bringing a kid into a vault monster room. An angry emotional kid.
Is not even the angry child,as soon as you meet her where she acts over the top trying to impress you is annoying and super forced
Alex and Oj are way better than the calypso twins no comparison.
"We don't chew so good bro!" 🤣
If gearbox patches them in, I would buy the game, remote download and go straight home from work to play. Til then...
@@ryze9153 good luck, ur gonna need it
@@dogsbreakfast4952 Sounds like you speak from experience...
Roofcake 🤦♂️
You know a Borderlands is trash when Claptrap isn't the most annoying character.
@Drew Biggah think it's far worse than bl2. I'd rather play bl2 even today
Joshua Ni'huiginn claptrap isn't annoying, claptrap is awesome!
Bordorlands 1 is still king
Drew Biggah know what Game is trash? Destiny.
@Drew Biggah It is the worse out of all the borderlands games story wise, but it is the best in terms of gameplay.
The writing team is different. They have none of the old writers. In fact, the writers for this game have absolutely zero writing credits before this game.
It kinda shows...
The story after killing Troy felt so incredibly dragged out. In fact, everything you do on Nekrosomething makes so little sense. The planet's setting is incredible, but I just wanted the story to finally end, so I can start with TVHM and mayhem stuff already.
Main story I agree. But there are several side missions that actually got some real chuckles out of me
Yeah I really felt the decay in the writing, it just felt super cringe
they should fired the writers because they didn't even try at all
I had concerns as soon as I knew Anthony Burch left the writing team. People don't realize how much his humor injected life into the series. For reference check out the series HAWP, his sister on the channel is the original voice of tina!
You know something is wrong when claptrap is the least annoying character😂
I personally never really liked Claptrap, but hilariously this game had me actually liking him and enjoying his little bits of commentary cause it wasn't much or often. However for the most part I've been dissapointed by the story and characters.
LEAST!??! I thought he was really annoying for the ONLY TIME IN THE WHOLE SERIES IN THIS GAME!!! I thought everyone was all right.
Claptrap/tina/kreig/brick are my favorite characters. My most hated is Pickle/Ava/Lilith
I idolized claptrap when i was little. Now my favorite character is kreig
Claptrap was ironicly annoying, these new characters are not trying to be which makes them suck.
At least Handsome Jack was actually funny
I know right!?!?!?!??!?!?!? I keep hoping he would show up soon when I was playing... It was disappointing to say the least
“god these pretzels suck”
*bad violin noises*
"aw screw you it would have been hilarikus if i had found it earlier"
IPAWNHOES he does show up........ just as a legendary gun :(
If Jack made butt jokes, he was also strangling someone or ordering ponies made out of diamonds! While the twins made butt jokes, it was more like they had a lot of fun in the recording booth snickering and all. It felt so childish and immature. Well, maybe because they are still a bunch of kids while living on Whateverthatplanetiscalled.
I miss Jack and I still hope Borderlands 4 will have Handsome Jack returning in a body. (As the Jackhammer sometimes talks to you: "Eeeey, what if we look for a loader bot and you upload me in there! :D :D ")
My favorite reference is when the revive station says "Hey you, finally awake. You were trying to cross the border, right?"
Mine is the hell walker
The station also says "hyperion asks, did we ever tell you the definition of insanity?"
Skyrim?
@@blueninjanoname7338 Yep.
They should just replace the twins with OJ and Alex. 10/10 story then.
Eh. They were fine.
Not lying, I'd buy that DLC lol
They really screwed themselves with Jack. It’s no surprise we all expected better in the villain department. There’s still hope for DLC. Make Ava the villain.
Gearbox: Make the twins bad, really bad.
Storywriter: Like evil or Annoyingly bad?
Gearbox: Yes
Storywriter: Gotcha
I kinda like how bad they are tho
yet still not as bad as these "yes" jokes.
@UCY9STZm5l-djUJp07wQmG0g joke went over your tiny brain
Aweful comment
@@puntybrah that was a good one
"Who would put sh!t in a lootbox!?"
I can think of a few companies that would....
Lootagrams
Bethesda.
@@actualteddybear891 OMFG HATE THOSE THINGS
Activision, EA are the worst though
There's a side-quest that shits all over microtransactions and it's actually amazing XD
Randy pitchford has the brain set of a 6 year old and the humor sense of a 9 year old
and the ability to pay his employees of a sweatshop owner
Fortunately for him those are the two age groups he's attracted to (allegedly)
Just like Admiral Mikey.
And the desires of someone in a mid life crisis
He is a scum bag
The villains are like Jake and Logan Paul
Loud
Annoying
Stupid
Kid humor
And make you question life
Truly evil
Basically borderlands humor since 1
😂 so true
@@ashleyjohansson230 what was wrong borderlands one?
@@dominatorprime4705 Borderlands humor has always been dry, bland and loud and annoying. I don't get why people think its any different
@@ashleyjohansson230 so your saying the borderlands 2 is the best sequel then 1 and 3?
Not enough Brick, Mordecai and Tina, and what happened to Axton, Salvador and Dr. Zed?
Morpheus honestly I was hoping we’d have the option of picking from previous vault hunters and the new ones
Morpheus didn’t axton and Gaige go on an adventure together?
Yeah they went to a planet out of the system to get the vault there
I'm wondering where the Conductor of the poop train is at...
Morpheus there not dead I can tell ya that
It's becoming a tired trope where you have the typical smartass, badass, hardass, teenager girl companion.
Thortimus Yorkal You forgot the,” I lost my parents so that gives me a reason to be a douche and people should be sorry for me” trope.
Its almost like teenage girls complain the loudest on the internet.
Mr Scratch And that’s why they should be banned from the internet.
@Damien Garcia You know what the best way to do that is? Have everyone tell you shes important, without you know her actually doing anything impressive or important.
Jesus get over it. Who fucking cares?
Honestly borderlands 2 had the best story, handsome Jack was an absolute perfect villain, but these two as villains was like 10 steps back, I don’t like the bad guys were just wannabe UA-camrs,
They should've made katagawa the main villian and changed the story a bit obviously to fit that
I personally think takes from the borderlands had the best story but we can all agree 3 was abysmal
Borderlands 4 begins with Ava being murdered by Angry Joe xD
Get on it Gearbox!
10/10 right there!
@@Astonvman007With a spoon, then he becomes the next villain which all the vault hunters must rally against
He's gonna have a slightly different name like Rageful Jon
One of the Best title ever for borderlands
10/10, Game of the Year winner.
Whoever wrote Handsome Jack must have quit. Because that sort of writing is nowhere to be found.
Anthony Burch and yeah, he's gone.
Was jack the same voice actor as katagawa? Sounded very similar to me
I agree 100% I never got turned off during BL2 story, yes it could be bothersome since you’re hearing the same things every time; but It never threw me off. Compared to this trash story of BL3 which is focused on females characters only. And on top of that It should’ve been Tina the main girl of this story, but I had to be this annoying little fucker called Ava which makes no sense in the entire story line
@@joegroves4695 No
@@jefferyslack9088 how is 1 and 2 terrible compared to 3?
Damn those Wolfenstein sisters were so annoying.
Captain Eggcellent I was contemplating buying that game cause all the others are awesome but idt I need to now
@@Roxy-1576copperpuppyEmly it's nothing like the other Wolfenstein games
Then Gearbox was like "Hold my beer"...
Hell yeah dude!
Y E A H D U D E
Says a lot when Angry Joe’s parody of the Calypso twins are many times more entertaining then the actual twins.
Fr lol oj is so funny in these
80% of the bad jokes my mind processed as normal conversation.
Same, I think part of it may have been from playing BL2 so much personally
@@Dan-si8eu yeah,consider that 'playful'? dialogue hehe
you sound like someone who is working in customer service.
Holy shit me too
I actually like the idea of villains that use social media to control a cult but gearbox doubled down wayyyy to hard on the intentional cringe and so final product is just cringe
I was hoping it would evolve into them being revealed as shitty children when faced with the actual power and horror of the vault
...Intentional?
i always knew the villians wouldn't live up to jack.
i mean seriously man, butt stalion.
How about a ava villian
No villain will and it’s dumb to think otherwise. Handsome jack is the best villain of all time for video games.
The fact that he truly believed he was the hero added so many layers of depth to his character
one departed and the entire vibe of the game shifted when he killed Roland, cause up to that point he just talked crazy like haha I’m gonna kill you guys, then he really does and you’re like oh shit
@@Mr.Xarxes tbh he was the hero in the end he just wanted to help everyone on Pandora.
It was a huge missed opportunity for not letting us play as Tina. It would've felt natural for her to be a Vault Hunter
Agreed.
Also, idk if this is just me, but she doesnt look like Tina to me lmao
She looks weird.
@@zelestial1681 TINA, all grown up
Absolutely not... That's called beating a dead horse
Ew
lineup should've been:
Tiny Tina
a Hyperion Loader
an Iridian guardian
Mr. Torgue
"Why is it so nutty?"
"We don't chew so good bro"
best line in the video.
Exactly what I was thinking
Alex & OJ r perfect to play as the duo villains
No, Alex's acting stinks, and not in a good way like OJ.
I wish they'd drop Alex tbh
@@FudgyTheWhale_ why y'all have to be always so negative?...
@@FudgyTheWhale_ how about nope
@@palawolfy4855 dude alex is the most negative person on this channel what the fuck you mean
Joes opinion on the Calyspso Twins is EXACTLY how I feel about “content creators” and “influencers”.
Yeah me too lol but I thought that was the point all of those jokes that are made are literally someone that we would here off of UA-cam
@@blueamsol yeah your right. The twins are your typical youtuber twitch person. And tyreen is more bearable then alot of them. Troy is the trashy part of the duo
@@belzyk3dg122 I actually enjoyed troy more than tyreen, or i guess I should say I tolerated troy more than tyreen
It is almost like that's the joke
I think that's why a lot of youtubers don't like the twins. Especially when they shit on the twins and then end the video with "like, subscribe and punch that like button! Oh and don't forget to ring the bell! " (or some iteration of). It's like the saying "the truth hurts" they know its making an ass out of em and they feel uncomfortable by it.
Oddly enough, 3 years later as streaming culture itself has gotten cringier and annoying, theyve aged really well
No kidding went from hating them to damn this is accurate 😂😆
The copium is off the charts lmao. They were annoying then, and they're annoying now.
"Why's it so chunky?"
"We don't chew so good bro!"
Geoff Roth 😂
Of course joe sleeps in his jeans, Superman shirt and leather jacket at all times.
Those aren't cloths that's just his skin
@@notrenbanney2450
So he is all time naked?
UGH!!! Thanks for the nightmares!!
Conner would be proud
he showers in them too
We knew this since Metal Gear Survive.
Anthony Burch wasn’t the writer for the game’s story this time around, and by god, it shows.....
This story is soooo weak and you can really tell they tried to push the feminist-agenda.
@@YETlbeats Oh God, not another one of these comments.
I've played the game but won't buy it till it's much cheaper.
@@TheAwesomeDarkNinja Given what has been happening in gaming news recently i can't necessarily blame him for feeling this way. Do i agree with it: no. But it's understandable to see why Mac Afro feels this way.
@@e1iteyoshi998 no it isnt at all in any way lmfao it had nothing to do with feminism
The story in this game was for sure not too great but the whole section with Katagawa and Rhys was pure gold. I replayed it just for that part and I firmly believe Katagawa would've made a Jack-tier villain given enough development.
That would've been sick. Him being the big bad with the Calypso's just doing his bidding. Gearbox dropped the ball for sure
I feel like Katagawa should have been the main villain, Troy and Tyreen should have been scrapped out immediately. With enough development like you said, Katagawa could and should have been the main villain with Maliwan as the big threat. I also feel like the Traunt brothers could have been like the army commanders, one for the light army and the other for the blackforce (or whatever) army.
Very much agree they could’ve made the whole game about Maliwan vs atlas and saved a lot more money and made lots more people happy while saving money to make wonderlands or borderlands 4
Honestly, I think that's the biggest problem with Jack. He left such a huge impact that any antagonistic threat afterwards is essentially doomed to live in his shadow, and be constantly compared to him, along with standards which could lead to some unreasonable expectations.
Plus, I think the Calypsos were a case of where the writers tried so hard to parody obnoxious internet influencers, like the Paul Brothers, that they ended up emulating the obnoxious nature of those people too well.
For the love of God, Gearbox, get some better writers for the next game! This story wasn’t memorable at all.
memorable in a bad way
We don't need anymore of this shit. Let it die, jesus christ.
Maximilian Bien lmao i can’t tell if you’re joking
Shane wrong
Shane someone mad?
End of the game: These three sirens are awesome!
Me: Wtf!? What did they do? I'm the one that did 99% of the work and I'm not even in the cutscene!
Borderlands always seemed to be at least somewhat aware of it, trying to make sure you get your credit but no, this time, its them and them only.
Fuck it
Isnt that kinda of weird how the trailer for BL3 with tannis, vault key and vault hunters, it seem like the vault hunters were going to be animated in cutscene. But since that wasn't case the awkward cutscene with maya death and the vault just doing nothing on the sidelines.
@@eccentricdownfall321 You would think after Maya's death they would have learned not to leave people outside the vault when you go inside.
@『Platnum Breaker』 I mean, that was a big fuck you to the B2 vault hunters, including Maya. If its suppose to SEEM to everyone at large that Lillith did it but the characters know that isnt the case, that would be fine but Ava talks as if thats what actually happened.
girl power summed pretty nicely these days.
Girl power doesn't work when you focus on it. It has to be natural.
I've been thinking that for years, when will they learn?
You're going to take it AND LIKE IT!
D Harlo no u
Yall sound sexist
@@geeesejeeeze6055 you're the problem
They literally only needed competent writers and the game would've been a masterpiece
One of BL2's writers worked on Half Life
@@hungryburger1170 Gearbox did a couple of expansions for the original half-life, it's pretty strange; and for the most part, they're pretty good
Competent writers that incorporated the beloved established characters over almost 15 years of gameplay, instead of shit on ALL of them and kill the most important ones off
Man, I never thought I'd see the day when twitch streamers would be villains in a video game
A twitch streamer is a fighter in tekken 7 now.. Julia
Sad times to be alive.
I would've enjoyed the villans if the girl streamer's name was alinity...
It was only a matter of time.
With any luck we’ll never see that day again
Why Ava when everyone just wanted a grownup or teenage tiny Tina
If you take your time in the game, you get to experience a bit of Tina. Probably more than in Part 2. Unless you rush through things and backtrack for the side quests...
@@gooboberti can side quests dissapear if you rush the main story?
Gombar32 no you can always go back
Gombar32
Side quests always stay after you beat the game and they’ll even scale to your level so it’s more challenging and fun.
@@TheDoomsdayzoner Tina always had an annoying voice and personality.
Did the writers even play BL2 or any of the games? I feel like there are so many inconsistencies in the story as a whole.
Yea so many characters are missing or have wierd plots also I feel mayhem mode kinda ruined the late game just made it a more rng version of ultimate vaukthunter mode
Nope, they hired a bunch of woke people and they have no actual sense of humor.
@Wparker6804 to me who only played a little bit of borderlands 2 borderlands 3 is awesome
@Wparker6804 I can tell. The humor sounds like it's trying to hard.
Its terrible. I rolled my eyes in almost every scene
Tbh, if they remade Borderlands 2, with all this updated gameplay and shit from Borderlands 3, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
Please
Mitchell Mclvor didn't you hear about the handsome collection?
@@larrypoppins6273 it's a remaster which bumps it from 30 fps to 60. Not even close to what he said.
L
Bl 2 in UVHM has horrible balance...
Handsome Jack: Maniacal leader trying to purge the planet because he truly believes he is the hero of the story. Also incredibly funny to boot
Calypsos: The Paul brothers
Brady Ward kind of the point lol
@@alexgrey7972 The paul brothers should never be a part of any point
Brady Ward lamp
@@alexgrey7972 - The point flew over their heads. They didn't get it.
You make jack sound like thanos...oh god
the writing shows how disconnected they are with what people love about the first two games, forcing dogshit narratives down our throat. its a shame because the gameplay is such a step up from bl2
The skill tree is The Pre-sequel with the OP-ness of Bl2 and the gun system of Bl1. You cannot beat perfection.
They could have given the shooting mechanics and movement a bit more attention cause they feel pretty generic which isnt really good concidering its the thing u do all the time
i'm glad i didn't buy the game and i was very disappointed on how the game look but the story oh god
K heres a thought. Take borderlands 3. Tear out everything but the combat and such. And slap it on bl2. Literally only one person would complain
I dont see how this differs from BL1 or BL2, same shit, same jokes not to be taken SERIOUS
So this time Randy Pitchford was doing the writing
That's probably why a teenage girl got the spotlight eh?
Chris Probst LOL
@@chrisprobst6963 damn.
@@chrisprobst6963 and her magical squirts.
Forced female pandering, unlikeable villains, annoying "Jokes". Yep, written by a dumbass
I loved jack, he was the top, those quotes of his were golden. When you leave the hamerlock village he calls you and:
"Hey you think youll freeze to death out there? NAH probably not. The bandits will get you. How was my day? Pretty good, just bought a pony made of diamonds. Yeah, because im rich!"
All the while hes eating a pretzels, man those were the times
The best part is the pretzels bit was unscripted.
Dameon Clarke was actually snacking on pretzels during a take and that "God these pretzels suck" was a legit reaction he had, and they loved it so much they made that the official take.
As far as i'm aware the lack of claptrap is because of Randy Bitchford's abuse of the voice actor, who simply asked to be payed.
I am surprised he still has a job after holding off 12mil in workers bonus... well according to a former bear box lawyer
Imagine having that as a last name no offense
@@jasonvoorhees5361 well his real name is Pitchford but its more entertaining to call him that.
@@BillCollins53 huh that's kinda insulting and funny
thats not it at all
The Calypso twins remind me of Ubisoft E3 presenters lol 😆
Griffin wins. Brutality.
Reminded me of scene kids
Love it when what I felt is validated by Angry Joe. Eff Ava.
Hey looks who's here. Love your vids bro.
People aren’t going to like every character. What fuckin guy wants to be around an irrational preteen who lost her only role model and is now on a ship with strangers. Y’all really don’t get the mental state of some of these characters. At least they feel fleshed out and have more depth than killing machines. Maybe that was a bad decision borderlands took, but not everyone can be tiny Tina’s. Some of them are representations of real people in a situation like this. Honestly I’ll say this again how’re most people (especially in their most delicate and fragile mindset) going to react? Sorry for the rant I just understand the psychology of some of these characters and appreciate the realness some of them provide. Are they fucking annoying? Yes. Half the people you’ll encounter will piss you off in real life, at least we can kill them (most of them) without consequences
Like her or hate her I liked my own side commentary when she broke down on the bridge. Granted I didn’t really say anything nice like the rest of you but that’s some shit that she would probably do anyway
You were the guy that lied about anthem being really good... Convinced everyone it would be good from your play testing when it was horrid... I unsubbed
@@ZacharyHampton people being occasionally annoying and unlikeable in real life is no excuse for writing annoying and unlikable characters and then trying to force them into the center of the narrative, even though they barely matter.
13:52
I just beat this game for the first time as Amara, and I COMPLETELY feel this. You can tell Amara is a very strong Siren, yet we need to pretend like during every major showdown she isn't there? Like after Troy's fight, Typhon's death, MAYA'S DEATH, she's just not there? Like come on dude, the entire power dynamic of the whole game changes when you have a FOURTH siren on your team
it's seriously trashy how they played it
That's honestly the worst thing about the series at this point; that they still haven't included the playable characters as actual... characters. For some reason they're never included into main stories and totally ignored in cut scenes. Why insert a new character no one cares about (Ava) and put her as the main "protag" when your playable character is standing right there and could have taken that role. Really weird story telling.
Mayas skills suck ass. All her skill trees are quite dog shit. Tbh I didn’t think u could make a worse siren than maya but I was quite wrong
I hated how every cutscene acts like you aren't standing right there and the game just happens around you instead of involving you.
Maya's death was HORSESHIT
@@santi_super_stunts2573 lol you obviously suck at BL2
The greatest thing in borderlands 3 is when you hear “oh hai vault hunter”
Oh howdy I didn’t see ya there
the chadd quest was also fun
@Whiterun guard damn imperials
Thank you for ruining Snickers I'll never see it the same again.
That was snickers?. Dafuq
hell no aint eating one of them again
Looked like a Snickers or payday bar
@@nicknapalm8560 payday doesn't have chocolate it's a Snickers, they used the same thing in their old Evolve video when other Joe is the tracker and he eats it lmao.
Dude, I thought it was mud stuffed in a box
Other Joe is definitely the best actor out of all them. He is really a pro at doing Angry Joe Skits at this point 👏 Absolutely love seeing him do stupid parodies in silly costumes everytime. 😂
Loved him as Ellie in the Last of Us xD and Other Trump in Metal Gear
rdr2 review flashbacks
whyboner?
he definitely adds a lot of fun in the skits
OJ really got me loving these
I think they're all solid as far as doing a skit goes. But yeah OJ seems to be on the improv classes or something. After that rdr2 review I cannot stop seeing how good he is.
angryjoe: who puts poop in a lootbox?
EA: WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN
edit:corrected spelling
It’s a bit hard to beat handsome jack in terms of quality of a good villain
ZAK Attack troy was alright when he was alone on eden 6
you sure fam? this game would literally be better without a main villain instead of these two ass hats
That's not an excuse borderlands 3 isn't even half as big as 2
Project_ Ronin ? Bl3 is definitely bigger
@@mathieuedde1465 no it's not there 5 planets yet only like 30-50 areas
The Calypso twins are like if Handsome Jack only talked about Butt Stallion the entire game.
saiyan26 no jack talking about the Majestic creature that is butt stallion would be better......it’s an actual living horse you know.
@@alexgrey7972 made of diamond
No the Calypso twins are like if I had to spend an entire borderlands game fighting against the Paul brothers.
@@christianguerrero70 Oh god that would be hella satisfying to play
saiyan26 that would’ve been better than what was made here
Joe crying after being woken up is a mood I relate with.
i thought sirens were one in a million, seems like everyone is a siren these days.
Not if they are boys only girls are sirens if they are boys then they are titans.
Super sayain syndrome
also gay
Wasn't there supposed to be only four in the entire galaxy?
@@Ackalan It was six sirens at a time, I believe
How to write the Calypsos better:
Try to hammer home the fact that they provide the bandits with a sense of family and community. Make the twins guilt the player into believing that they’re monsters for slaughtering bandits (their family) when they’re simply victims of corporate greed
That and give them more than just being a generic "streamer" personality like Screwball in the PS4 Spider-Man game.
Granted, I'm not very deep in to the story (only play with the mrs, and it takes effort to push through with horizontal splitscreen + we work different schedules - so we've only just beaten katagawa ball)... but so far what you suggested is literally 90% of all the echo-calls from the calypsos... "family this, giving bandits purpose that, corporate wars fucked everybody, family family vault bandits family"
that would be too paradoxical to 2k's corporate greed
@@jonathanzupan7295 That drops off pretty fast when the twins realize the vault hunter isn't interested in their shtick. Like, before you even leave Pandora Tyreen is trying to flex on the VH by telling a bandit to cut off his own legs for her.
Also is a more clever and subtle parody of youtubers always bitching about demonetization
Fun Fact:
*Team Rocket are better villains than the Calypso Twins*
They lose almost 99% of the time, but their intros from the early 2000's were 🔥
90s Network Productions ha! Gay!
Haha word
We’re team rocket... bitch
Prepare for trouble!
@@averyterribleperson5292 and make it double
Gearbox: "damn, our game needs a new story and characters."
What they came up with:
- "Quirky teenage live-streamers kill off super-powerful and memorable characters in cut-scenes"
What they ignored:
- Rhys: kills a vault monster in a power-ranger-style fight sequence
- Tales From the Borderlands: ends on a huge teaser
- Handsome jack: stuck in AI form at the end of the game according to cannon decision
- Fiona: entire character ark for Tales From the Borderlands centered around being a vault hunter, was obvious she was going to be a playable character
- Athena: is the true cannon protagonist of the Pre-sequel, is saved by a sentient vault guardian, alluding Athena is super important (nope)
- Helios: is so large it casts a planet size shadow, is only a back drop (BL2 DLC had it as a level but c'mon, its the size of freaking' Elpis)
- Eplis: residents are not cared for and ignored, despite it being pulled out of the sky at one point
- Pandora Vault key: has a major plot point about being broken, is magically repaired when Ava uses it
- Lilith and the fight for sanctuary: not recapped for those who didn't play it
- Scarlett: leaves at the end of her DLC, is still alive
- Crimson raiders: where the majority of them went after the end of the newest BL2 DLC
- Hyperion Employees: form a huge faction, is never mentioned
- Eridians: never clearly explained what the look like or why the destroyer killed their entire race
- Vaults: "thousands" of vaults seen in BL2, apparently only 4 matter now (not about the lack of them, several others have been opened, but they don't do anything special)
- sirens: a LOT more than 6 exist at one time, which apparently is impossible according to lore
The characters that were ignored:
- Athena
- Axton
- Gaige
- Salvador
- Torgue
- Dr Zed
- Sasha
- Fiona
- Scarlett
- janey Springs
- Gortys
- Loader Bot
Gearbox: "Quirky Twitch streamers are a really funny joke, we should revolve their entire personality around this sole concept and make them the center of our entire concluding trilogy!"
~ Edit: some stuff is wrong
Thank you for pointing these out cuz Scarlett still out there alot was left out or it's going to be in dlcs but alot of important stuff as you said isn't in the game which should have been cuz of all people I thought Athena would have played a bigger part
Everything you mentioned is my problem with this game. And the fact that suddenly Lillith is the almighty savior that needed no help completely excluding Roland or any male influence
Also, Lilith is treated like a hero even though she is the one who almost single handedly created Handsome Jack, nearly killed Athena, destroying Sanctuary, and shows a darker side to her; revealing that we are the villains our selves. But nope, biggest hero of the year! Hero my ASS!! This game should have focused more on her being the villain instead of the stupid Calypso Twins. Way to go Gearbox, way to freaking go.
Cameron Cascagnette They can’t do all this in one game. This will take several games. If they did all this in one game, everybody who’s complaining about the calpyso twins now would complain that gearbox just stuffed everything into one game.
Kalo47 they weren’t gonna make the Lilith the villain. They never would’ve. She’s too much of a great character. I would’ve hated this game if they made Lilith the villain.
Remember that time when Lilith ordered you to run down a ginormous tank the size of a football stadium with a truck? It's like Tyreen also leeched out some IQ from her
OJ's unmatched ability to completely break games is truly inspiring
Jaamie B Adam Kovic would like a word
Not that hard honestly, must have fell through the map at least a dozen times in BL3
He would have a bright career in game testing
it's a 8/10. it's a fun game, that's it
@@jorrgfromage9929 stop commenting this on everything
“Oh hi vault hunter, I didn’t see you there” best part ever 😂😂
“I have lots of money for some reason ha-hehehe”
“I didn’t know I wanted to see you until I saw you standing there in front of me” that’s the best part
I felt weird playing amara through the story. The whole story had such a heavy prevalence of the sirens and amara was just another vault hunter watching everything
was the same if you played as maya in bl2. they would at times say they only have one siren (refering to lilith), completely ignoring the fact that maya is a siren too.
"Watching everything" nah the VHs ceased to exist during every cutscene
@@DDracee yeah it was basically the same thing in borderlands 2 where the focus was mainly on lilith and on angel when you find out she is also a siren. You also have that really weird scene where you basically watch roland get shot. You would think theyd actually include the vault hunters in the story this time. Especially when you gave WAYYY too much focus on 3 characters. 1 which people fucking hated. The other which people didnt like and lilith who i get is the commander but was yet again given so much attention compared to everyone else who barely got fleshed out.
To go from Handsome jack to the calypso twins is like going from a super bowl team to the freaking Jets
Or the Hollywood Rams
Did anyone else think Troy was going to overthrow Tyreen?? The story definitely seemed to be heading in that direction, especially in the scene where he talks directly to us saying something along the lines of being tired of being the leech (which could've been his plan, leech power until hes super powerful).
The story would've been better if it went that way imo.
Yeah it dissapointed me also. Like Troy wasn't happy being in shadow of Tyreen.
I thought that as well, towards the end of the game he starts talking to you much more and talking over tyreen
@@Gio-xz2ep Troy deserved better hell I'd pay for a deluxe edition just to see Troy do us all a favor and shut his annoying ass sister up. And become the villain we really need.
I thought either that or he would get fed up being in her shadow and hed side with us at the end after tyreen betraying him
I already figure that they would turn on each other once they got what they wanted it katagawa should been main threat over them since it was original plan however they went with plan b😒👎
Handsome jack did give us a far better villain then these calypso twins
No shit Sherlock
It's kinda hard to beat out handsome jack
@@phantom_thief_jk9859 Yeah they kinda dug themselves a hole right there. Handsome Jack will never be topped.
The Calypsos sounded like better villains on paper than in practice. They were extremely cringey and only got more interesting towards the end of the game
No one tops the jacks.
The intro was almost unwatchable... very accurate to the characters in the game. Nice work!
Well unlike them, these skits take too much time and could be easily skipped.
The ONLY way Gearbox can make this up to us is to make Ava the villain in Borderlands 4!
Nah, tearing her to shreds by Krieg would be much better!
joe: "why's it so chunky man?"
Alex: " we don't chew so good bro" lmfao
Made me spit my drink.
I’m sorry but I think Ava was the most annoying character by far
What? You didn't enjoy being beaten over the head with the girl power narrative?
Dont know why you're sorry she's an annoying little twat
@@23kurtzy I didnt get a girl power vibe hmmm wonder why else she might be in the story. Ohhhhhhhhh maybe its because only women can be sirens and not any other reason. They put her in so she could be the next siren after maya I twat
She's so bad hopefully they will kill her off in borderlands 4
idk whats more annoying the handler from Monster Hunter World the sisters from wolfenstein or Ava in Borderlands 3 tbh all of them are annoying
God, these antagonists are so annoying, spoiled and flat.
I miss you, Handsome Jack.
They are supposed to be like that.
@@unversedhero6028 Yeah, that's the problem. They are the tired concept of, "Woah, why are millennials so wEIrD."
@@unversedhero6028 doesnt excuse the bad writing, they couldve given them more interesting backstories and more depth in allot of ways
@@unversedhero6028 No, they don't.
What does it mean - "they are suppose to be like that"?
Who decide that? Where is it written?
If it's your opinion - ok, but otherwise, really, why the hell they "suppose" to be like that?
I mean, why antagonists in one of the greatest action-rpg of our time should be so boring and empty? Even thieves in "Home alone" have more personality, more respectable traits, and we know nothing about their previous storyline.
@@FReeck216 They are supposed to be like that because of where they come from and who they are. The way they act makes perfect sense for their upbringing and their age.
All four of the Vault hunters played a part of Handsome Jacks death but Lilith got all the credit. Mordecai took over when Lilith was captured and found out where the Warrior is. Brick help get to the tower and helped get to the warrior by blowing up that bridge and both help stage the final attack but no credit
Rhys: I will never forgive Katagawa for destroying Lazy River Land. I used to take my team there to unwind! And now I'm wound! And all out of bagels!
Me: Ahaha, what a story, Mark!
It actually did make me laugh a little.
STFU
I laughed at the cannon counting down in bananas.
It's was like 3 in the morning and I was super tired, but I still find it funny.
It's wound
I actually love the BL3 humour :D
“What we disliked about the story?”
Everything
@@Skeletoncross The head-honcho himself Randy Pitchford is an SJW overlord so of course it's infested with that ideology.
@@jeremycampbell6189 Is it really?
@Shepard jokes on you Flak can't be refered to as he. Because they will get butt hurt
I mean after seeing thw positive reaction to the borderlands humor, it was predictable they'd overdo it for the presequel, and that made it obvious they'd make it more PC and also way too focused on the more boring characters.
Literally finished the game yesterday. And I've hated the humor so much in 2, and the pre sequel that I couldn't finish them. The humor is just as immature and filled with fart jokes as the rest of them. I literally don't see how in the hell everyone hates the dialogue in this game but can stomach the other ones. Yes, handsome jack was the exception when it comes to the writing but he couldn't save the entire game. Maybe it's a nostalgia thing but this games humor seems on par with every other borderlands (not Tales, Tales is the best writing borderlands has had and I wish gearbox would let telltale take control of story)
Ava thinks Lilith killed Handsome Jack?
Maya and BL2 vault hunters: are we a joke to you
The canonical choice is to let Lilith kill him.
Boomer
If you let Jack talk in bl2 lilith herself deals the finishing blow
@@darktigersharkmax4432 & sagepone And who in their right fucking minds would let that happen anyways?
@@ProcyonDei To hear Jack's final words and let lilith get her revenge? Plus you can do it multiple times so you can kill him as many times as you want.
3:16 hearing joe scream in terror as two serial killers break into his home with air horns is definitely the highlight of this review.
8/10 is what I'd give it. Gameplay wise it is the best in the series, but B2 is still the best overall because the writing and story and all that was just so amazing. Take gameplay of B3 with the writers of B2 and that game would be a masterpiece.
id give it middling 6 because bl2 is a high 7
Marco N Borderlands 2 is a solid 9 wtf are you talking about?
Sloan Anderson true but without the BL2 writers it make BL3 story 5 times cringe or 10 times cringe and imo if I beat the game and I would never want to play it again because of the twins
@@TS111WASD tlou is like a 9
i put bl3 at 6 bc any closer to and any farther from to bl2 wouldnt be right
would you give bl3 an 8 and bl2 a 9 lol
It's a damn shame we didn't reach BL2 and Tales from the Borderlands height of humor.
Bro people shit all over BL2 for being unfunny when it came out. Borderlands 1 was really the only one that was tolerable, BL2 is when they just cranked it to 11 with the annoying humor and they kept it there.
@@retrolives3799 People are gonna whiteknight BL2 now that its cool to shit on BL3 right now but honestly youre not wrong. Borderlands 1 rode a nice line then they just cranked it up to the highest levels from then on
borderlands 1 wasnt funny at all, what the fuck are you idiots talking about?
Retro Lives Lol, stop lying. The humor was fine in BL2. It was the memes that people hated.
@@yamummyyummy4785 in bl1 scooter says "smoking jesus titty cinnamon" and I found it quite humorous.
Ice-T is in the game? Well now we know where the writing budget went. XD
Balex was the most hilarious part of the main story for me. Wish they made him one of the lead characters because his personality beats out Lillith by a long shot, especially since they paid so much to have him in the game.
AttackOn Cake I was sad I couldn’t say goodbye to balex before The Great Vault mission :c
@Michael Bradley You're obviously a dumb-ass troll account who doesn't actually know how the voice-acting industry works. Go back to your mom's basement.
That one conductor of the poop train is absent ... aside from one echo log.
1/10
He’s on the way with a new dlc
that one guy better than nothing
jack couch I’m super excited for that, but still a bummer having to wait an entire year for his BL3 debut. Also some tech savvy folks got into the files and found that Krieg was supposed to have a role in the main story. IIRC, Krieg was a spy for Lilith and was supposed to be rescued by the player on Promethea. I’m guessing somewhere along the way they scraped that idea, canned him from the story and created the coffee obsessed person (forgot her name) to replace him.
Super disappointed when I read that, honestly :/
Whoever wrote this game's story didn't get swirlied enough in Highschool.
"swirlied" ?
You don’t know what being swirlied is?
@@falcon8752 It's when you hold someone's head down into a toilet and flush. It's commonly associated with high school bullying
Just finished the game and holy fuck the writing is so terrible in every fucking aspect it made me miss the days of getting swirlied.
@@Orexsislmao I'd prefer to get swirlied as well
That moment when you realize that Joe's Calypso twins are more entertaining than the actual game ones
Also hotter
"pre-order bonus" joke relevant cause it in halfway in a game and all "bonuses" are useless after 3h of gameplay in any game.
Ironically there is a weapon skin called "It's Poop" that makes your guns look like poop lol best drop ever
I love the gameplay but I can never replay it again because of the storyline. Oh God the storyline is aw awful.
same, it's just terrible
Everytime I try to play this game I just end up going back to playing borderlands 2 instead
just finished the game.............. Mayhem mods are solid. Also replaybility of borderlands was NEVER due to story but VARIETY of guns. Play it one more time when you are bored ok.
@@hamzaahmad1345 ya force yourself to replay that game you hate, that'll make you love it
@@hamzaahmad1345 By this logic why wouldn't I just go replay any of the other ones that actually have a good story
"I'm an idiot for sleeping... Thanks guys"
Dunno why this cracked me up so hard.
To be fair Tyreene had 1 pretty good bit.
"Hey you! Cut off your foot!"
*"YES MY GOD QUEEN!"*
"Wait, no! Not both of them! Oh... He cut both off. Oh... He's trying to stand on his stumps... Okay hang on second."
*Psycho screams out in pain and dies*
"Sorry. They just taste better when their afraid... What was my point again? Oh right! My followers would die for me!"
Not that it stops people from trying to claim that the twins were sympathetic characters.
I mean tbf her Psycho follower was the funny part of that bit and Psychos have always been funny. But I'll admit I didn't hate Tyreene as much Joe did lol.
Agree. That's the only one imo lol
I really liked "KILL THE MALIWAN GUYS"
@@WaifuDiver hard to hate someone, who's pathetic...
I watched a video explaining the entire story of Borderlands 3. I've been wondering where in the hell is Fiona? We still don't know what happened to her after Tales from the Borderlands.
The gameplay is great but the Calypso twins are no Handsome Jack.
No villain will ever be as good as handsome jack
Not even close to handsome jack at all
I honestly think they're just okay, but yeah...Jack's way better.
And the women empowerment bullshit made the story garbage
GooseTeamSix what female empowerment lol you are probably the same guy who got butthurt from female soldiers in battlefield
I’ll be honest tyreen was bad but Troy wasn’t that bad in my opinion as long as it was just him on screen
Also I miss krieg
KRIEG! Most fun character haha
I’LL SLICE YOUR EYELIDS SO YOU CAN WATCH THE END!
But for real thank god someone gets it, I’ve never wanted to rampage more than after I saw those twin villains.
The poop train conductor will live on in our hearts.....or DLC perhaps? 😏
i remember finding an audio recording from krieg somewhere in the game, talking to himself as usual
Troy had a lot of potential and they could have gone in various directions with his character. But they didn’t, and anything that was being hinted or implied was thrown out the window, which is a shame. He wouldn’t have been the next Handsome Jack, but it would have made the game better.
Ava might be the WORST part of the whole game. I think she's worse than the Twins.
Fuck Ava , give us back maya
The first thing my friend pointed out to me when we got to Ava's introduction was the size of her head. She's like a bobblehead
No kidding. She’s more uninspired than them for certain. In more than one way.
Kasch well i mean sirens are always female apart from that weird abomination called troy
Kasch agreed
"They just give it to her" Ya theres so much in that statement lmfao.