Two of my most favorite people. You both have been guidposts to me in my life. You both have been catalysts for positive change. You both have helped me to reframe my perspectives. Thank you from the bottom of my soul.
Reclaimed my family name back to Oppenheimer, may we Jewish Buddhists show the example of a true Bodhisattva in this world, recognise the hate, see what's underneath and care for it, see the fears, hurt, grief as all our pain and suffering. Not judge those who can't feel it, instead see the leg caught in the trap anywhere and everywhere there is the expression of 'negativity'. Truly grateful for both your deep wisdom and compassion and courage to speak about this. May all fighting, war and famine cease forever.
I am on the verge of tears hearing these two in conversation. My heart is being pried open and it hurts in a most wonderful way. I've been struggling with my own anger and resentment and deep judgements of others and grappling.. to see it mirrored and to hear some guidance on how to navigate. This came at just the right moment.
This was very hard for me to watch. These are two of the thinkers and teachers I consider my guiding spiritual lights in life. I have tremendous love and admiration for both. This issue drives apart so many. Since October 7 I have struggled so hard holding so many truths up at the same time, and it’s painful and difficult. I have felt heartbreak that two of my greatest teachers see things differently or hold views that don’t align to mine. But….i will always listen to every word they have to say and keep an open mind and an open heart, with this and every complicated facet of this world of trauma . A deep thanks to both of you for all you have given me! Love to all.
@@jasondunphy8467sadly my closest friend is like this & we had to agree to just not discuss this situation. In a similar vein, how hard it is for Americans to feel compassion and understanding toward the 9/11 & other related terrorists, the radicalized middle Easterners, AND young americans, which arose from US support via supplying weapons, and our own killings of people from such nations, our country’s disdain for Muslims, our people’s racial profiling after 9/11. Some of the US motives were perhaps justified, or understandable, while some was economic, political, and race motivated. How few, if any imagine, of our fellow citizens have attempted the inner battle this understanding & perspective takes, not to mention the danger of expressing it…❤
I admire you more and more, Tara. Thank you for this oppportunity. Gives me hope for the future of the world we live in, that my son and the following generations will live. Thank you and thank you Dr Mate
Thank you Tara Brach and Dr. Mate Gabor for helping me to shift and open my awareness and heart to the painful situation in Palestine with new eyes. Thank you for helping me to bring this awareness to other very challenging people and situations as well.
Omg a duo I didn't know I needed. I haven't even watched this yet but already I know the world is better off for these to having joined in conversation.
What an amazing conversation, filled with so much compassion and love for all of humanity. Just what our world needs right now ; to all live this beautiful brief life together sharing our beautiful world with love regardless of nationality or religion. Thank you for opening our hearts to love not war ❤️❤️🙏🏻🙏🏻
Love and appreciate both of you so much. Gabor always bring the realness! I will add to Tara's words about speaking truth with compassion and respect for the other: yes, so very important, and I think that compassion isn't always soft! Sometimes it is fierce, strong, and unceasing. As long as our intention is in check, sometimes this kind of compassionate truth telling is what's needed to call someone's deeper self forward.
Tara. Youu are the most brilliant teacher. Your words and beautiful voice go straight to my heart. You are a true Bodhisattva. So glad I have you to listen to in this crazy historical moment. And Gabor, I totally get the way you feel too. Thank you for your honesty in opening up every part of you. You are a master too. But most of all, you are beautifully human.
Silence about what, specifically? I am genuinely curious and would like to know more about your perspective. My Jewish friends have said these exact words since Oct 7, but so have my Palestinian friends (speaking long before October 7 as well as now…).
The Palestinian’s current suffering and the Israeli’s Jewish people’s ancestral suffering is realized How we speak about this horror is so important. “Reverence for Life” Is what we need. NOW. It is so urgent. ‼️
Tara: thank you for your courage. I am sure it feels lonely. Mary Oliver for your broken heart. Loneliness I too have known loneliness. I too have known what it is to feel misunderstood, rejected, and suddenly not at all beautiful. Oh, mother earth, your comfort is great, your arms never withhold. It has saved my life to know this. Your rivers flowing, your roses opening in the morning. Oh, motions of tenderness! Thanks for opening up a river of grieving I am so tired of carrying. Stop the wars! I'm grateful for you and Gabor talking truth to power. We spend a trillion a year in this country on military weapons without thinking. Mindless! I would like to say thank you for noticing the difficulties some buddhist teachers have not following my teachers Martin Luther King Jr and Thich Nhat Hanh in calls to stop the war in Gaza. Encourage them to speak out. Let's practice teaching ahimsa non harm as first principle of our moral imagination. Tim Colman Seattle
Tara 🩷 thank you 🙏 As a young postwar child growing up in New Zealand I was deeply traumatized when learning of the Holocaust Hitler instigated in W.W.2. As time went on I studied history and the horror deepened at what was done to the Jews ( and others). Within me empathy and compassion for the Jewish people grew. I watch right now the genocide of the Palestinian people in Gaza and my heart is being ripped apart. I feel alot of empathy and compassion particularly for the Palestinian people. And my mind is blown in disbelief that the Jewish people of Israel are doing what they are doing in the light of the Jewish holocaust in W.W.2 Your voice is very beautiful and thank you for sharing the Bodisatva teachings Tara. Both very supportive and helpful 🙏 Thank you so much Tara
What a beautiful conversation. Thank you both for every word spoken. You two are both hugely important voices in my own path of awakening. Thank you again for everything!
Such an important conversation! We need to bring light, love and truth to this situation. In 1973 I visited Lebanon and saw a Palestinian camp there. People had been living for many years in tents on barren lots surrounded by chain link fences. Since they had been forced from their land without papers, they had no citizenship and were not allowed to leave the encampment. Some years later these people were murdered. This horrific tragedy has been ongoing for 70 + years.
Tara you are inspiring me so much this year and really helping me on my spiritual journey to heart awakening. I thankyou for your deep compassion and ability to communicate it so wisley. Namaste 🙏
Oh wow, what a collaboration. I've read 2 books by Mate (In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts and Scattered Minds) and I've listened to lots of lectures and interviews with him. Big fan
🙏 ❤ ❤❤🙏 Thank you both for the light that you shine. It takes courage and compassion/strong back/soft heart to be fully present and being human in the face of hate, violence, othering, grieving, trauma. We are the person in the woods who fibds a dog, and, we are the wounded dog that lashes out because our leg is stuck in a trap. Love and peace to all. Namaste 🙏
While I have deep respect for both the speakers, and the teachings of Buddha - they have changed my life in significant ways, I wonder if these teachings and talks can influence the narcissistic power systems around the world that have been causing suffering, damage, and death from the beginning of time. All I can do is empathize with the victims, and be grateful that, while I'm struggling in my own ways within these power structures, I'm in a relatively stable and peaceful space. It may sound apathetic and selfish, but it's the ground reality. 💔🙏
I hear you and believe that those systems are more vulnerable than ever before. The tables will turn when a critical mass of people take their own divine authority back and refuse to participate in those exploitative dilemmas that require the continuation of suffering. There are many wars at home that are not recognized as such - namely civil rights violations; when courts and cops are immune and prey on the people, we have no choice but to do as we believe we must from our soul. A critical mass of people must stop believing in the authority of these systems and organize around the people's natural rights again.
I have the same questions. And when we are watching a horror unfold…I’m not sure what the best approach is, but I’m not comfortable doing or saying nothing.
Thank you so much Tara Brach and Dr Gabor Mate for talking so truthfully and passionately about how people who care about the Israelis and Palestinians may hold this situatian with deep love and search our hearts for ambiguities and othering. I am an Australian woman born at the end of WW2 in March 1945. I feel deep grief every day about what is happening in our world and find myself crying when alone, often unable not to express my grief. I had been drawn to study accounts of the Holocaust again, to some depth and to restart my practice of Insight meditation. I am very grateful to view your online talk and will do so again and again.
As Tara says everything we say has consequences- And I would add everything we do NOT say has consequences. It is so noteworthy what Gabor says about how silent many Buddhist teachers are being about the Israeli/ Palestinian situation. And yet how willing they are to speak out about other issues ie- me too movement, and bipoc issues. I would say there is an aspiration to not ‘other’ people but we still need to speak even if we can’t perfectly hold compassion and equanimity. Would Buddhist teachers not say anything about Hitler/ nazis for fear of othering and anger towards them? I see Gabor being so authentic in his challenges. Yes to work on disarming and also yes to not being silent and apathetic.
Thank you so much for such an honest conversation about this deeply troubling situation. Two of the greatest thinkers of our time speaking on such a divisive topic was powerful to watch. I really appreciate the candor and authenticity you both share during this. Thank you.
How do you find an openness in your heart for “soldiers” who are boasting about how many children they’ve killed and parading around in lingerie of a woman’s home that was bombed to the ground into rubble ? Some of these so called “soldiers” come from other countries and I think sometimes it might not even be trauma that they are regurgitated but just plain ignorance and propaganda that is controlling their evil behavior. Something that is hard to grasp especially when you see thousands of children in pieces and in plastic bags , how can you look to that human who committed these crimes with any compassion? I believe there is evil in this world and many spiritual teachers dont acknowledge evil. This is very hard to grasp. Thank you both for creating this space. Free all oppressed people.❤️🕊️🙏🏽
I have absorbed a beautiful amount from that-enough to continue an amazing journey. Gratitude to both of you and to beautiful spirit that opened this to me on my phone when I was waking late in bed.(don’t know how)
Deepest love gratitude and respect to you both … Together as place our hearts under the waterfall of truth beauty and love… we witness a new dawning within… and patiently and steadfastly without … Love you Tara
Difficult time dealing with this ongoing tragic situation. Important topic to talk about. Thank you both for your safe space to Darma talk. I appreciate your benevolence and gentleness.
Me too I felt flabbergasted and immensely sad about 'my' mystic teacher Thomas Huebl not speaking out about what happened on, after AND BEFORE the 7th of October. Silence. Complete silence. I waited. In vain. I lost trust. Feel quite unsafe to express myself in 'his' community. I feel multiple elephants in the cabinet are ignored. Teachings goes on as if nothing has happened. It deeply hurts. I yearn for teachers that can walk their talk and choose for ALL sides. And yes, it is fully understandable that we foremost speak out for the 'direct' victims. But then it is crucial to find ways forward and justice for all, I believe we need to open up to ALL concern from ALL sides (never two!). I hardly know how, but that's the direction I want to take, that's where i long for guidance. I thank you so much for this beautiful open conversation Gabor and Tara . Can we talk more about how to practice to go beyond the Right/Wrong and Win/Lose paradigm? 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Personally, I try to meditate in order to give, not to get. My motivation behind whatever work I do on myself is to be the change I want to see in the world we all share. For me it is is essential that any internal cultivation I do is for the benefit of all earthlings.
Both of these people are in their element to give their all to themselves, and others...wishing you the best, too... A social issue that the Buddha showed once was when there was a battle, he separated a few people from the calamity and showed what the Karmic result was to these people...also, the Buddha finding the person's marked piece of wood in a huge pile...some people were calm before this act, other people were riled up...
Systems change can be from within If we don’t have the capacity to go out into the world We can still make a huge difference within our own system Which is the interconnected system of everyone
Silence of our minds is in order now. It may seem too simplistic to some, but at the end of the day this is what we’re being called to do in order to make peace in the world.
Thank you so much for this. I am of Jewish heritage (100% as it happens) but never identified strongly with it. I always bristled about zionism. It is true - this situation has no resolution -- IF we are stuck in the perspective of blame and vindication. The scenario on both sides is awful;, appalling. But NOTHING ultimately justifies violence, hatred, umbrage, blame. How can this ever further anything to a different level? I don't know how one can achieve the sort of spaciousness required, but as far as I can fathom it, there is no other option.
Tara you are such a beautiful spirit. So is Gabor. Thank you both for speaking out about the suffering causing more suffering. It is NOT about sides. It is about human rights. We are all capable of other-izing. Human hands create beauty and horror. Let’s choose peace. Let’s do the inner work. “It is never my suffering it’s our suffering”.
Does love ask us to first choose sides? ”Take the worst things about Hamas, multiply it by 1,000, and it still will not meet the Israeli repression and killing of Palestinians" ~Gabor Maté, Holocaust survivor
Why is there a bias towards the Israelis vs the Palestinians in the US government? So much more aid is given to the Israelis but not towards the Palestinians. If we are aiming for equanimity we need to give equally to both. And imo not give military aid to either😢 😢😢😢😢😢
A wonderful honest conversation between two people l admire and respect greatly. However, l still find l have a difficulty with the simile of the dog with its leg caught in a trap - people have the ability to self-reflect and restrain themselves from harming others - animals do not. I feel that in my personal life l have let another person get away with abusive actions too often by being understanding of their own wounding rather than demanding accountability. Sometimes the soft front or understanding heart can impede the strength of the back necessary to put a stop to the abuse.
That's the difficulty where discerning wisdom comes in. We must be conscious of our own wounding and need to protect ourselves without allowing our hearts to become armoured towards the other. We can love from a distance, we are not required to return to an abusive situation. We can still do the inner work, to have the intention of keeping our hearts open. 🙏
Please, nice words, could someone please please please, explain all this nice stuff about compassion and love to Netanyahu??? Why only jewish suffering is allowed to revenge? I am Palestinian deep in my soul, as a buddhist, we need to take action for true peace
I'm Germanic. So, if you make it personal, I'd say you should do two things: pray and/or follow standard religions. If you don't feel like making it personal, don't get in trouble and please stay away from "my buddies." :)
It's important to remember that in the Christian, Jewish, and Islamic faiths, Abraham is the father of both Arabs and Jews. We are brothers. The first murder in all faiths was between brothers because one's sacrifice was rejected by God. How hurt Cain/Qabil must have felt when his ever loving, holy father rejected his sacrifice that he worked so hard for by toiling in his fields. From hurt sprang violence. From violence springs hurt. It's a cycle.
Did not the bhudda give up his privilege? It was a radical rejection of his privilege. There were evolved reasons but also a statement of politics. Do I misunderstood this?
Appreciate you both! I needed to hear about Gabor’s rage at the Zionist Occupational/IOF genocide in the early days. The silence/denial was excruciating for those who have known the truth about Isnotreal for decades! I’m more horrified now than ever actually at the embarrassingly slow white, entitlement that I still today. Experiencing how deeply the fingers of this authoritarian/sick masculinity beast would reach right into my own 11 year long otherwise happy marriage. My Zen Buddhist husband who hasn’t known about Israel comes from a conservative, big oil family & his (from my perspective) disinterest &avoidance like his entire family, plus my detached “spiritual” friends who “aren’t affected” has torn my heart and soul to shreds! The “side” I’ve been on since I learned about Israel in 1990 at age twenty has always been with me. That it’s wrong to steal oil/land from the oppressed. Naturally!! I saw “Free Palestine” in spray paint and wondered what it meant. Montreal. Anyway, Hardest year of my life and I once lost my son and absolutely everyone & everything. But this past year has been/is SO 🤬 HARD!!!!
What Gabor says is so true, re jews in the US at least taking criticism of Israel as anti-Semitism. Im not anti-Jew, but i am horrified by what the israeli leader has done to The Palestinian people in response to the horrible terrorist attack by Hamas, as well as the longlongtime abuse of Palestinians by Israeli government, army, police.
What do you exactly object to and what do you propose?? I hope you are not suggesting cease fire (read "oppurtunity for terrorists to repeat their filthy pattern). I feel sorry for all those people who are suffering tremendously in those areas, but WHO is responsible for that? And how should it be prevented?
Mama bear has a hard time enacting this because when she did, her compassion was exploited. When someone who was attacked gets forced into an adversarial legal system they can't afford representation in and must represent themselves, with all the tricks that are played, it's doubly difficult to employ this philosophy. Human nature has problems to overcome but our systems actively suppress and attack the evolution of our consciousness.
Please try to illuminate your fellow jew people with your nice buddhist sentences. Buddha first said: LIFE is sacred, and the buddhanature exists in EACH HUMAN being. Why jews are allowed to revenge??? Please, is the 1st and 2nd class persons? Why all this lies???
I can’t learn from a Buddhist teacher that doesn’t follow the Buddha’s principles plain and simple. He wouldn’t have stayed silent in this time. Shame on all the usurpers of his teachings !!!
I guess I am one of the few that is repulsed by this conversation. Love does not mean laying your arms down in the face of people that would slaughter you and your children. I have one question. If Israel were to surrender all their weapons tomorrow what would happen over the next few weeks. Conversely if the Hamas were to lay down all their weapons and fully integrate what would happen? Peace would happen and all the walls would come down.
This response shows how little you know about Israeli history and politics. Hamas is a response to Israeli brutality over many decades. If Israel were to surrender all their weapons, there would be no need for Hamas to exist. As long as Israel continues to use weapons to inflict carnage on the indigenous Palestinians (including Palestinian Jews), there will be no peace for anyone in the region. Listen to the Martyr Made podcast series called “Fear and Loathing in the New Jerusalem” - a thorough, well researched, and very fair history of Zionism - if you want to actually learn about how *all* of this violence is rooted in the very foundations of Zionism. The Palestinian resistance is a response to ongoing Zionist aggression, not an aggressor itself.
Does anyone suggested doing just that in this conversation? What was said that in 500 years with lots of meditation on suffering we might get there. Pretty realistic time plan.
@@blueskies1237my perception is the opposite: both sides want to LIVE and thrive but while one side is thriving, they are holding power over the other, and not letting the other side have a chance at life or thriving. Any human would RESIST that. No justice, no peace.
Unfortunately, as an Israeli I can tell you that the mind control here is so deep, that feeling compassion for the "enemy" is considered sympathy for the enemy and you should weight carefully expressing it in public without consequences, both sides are dehumanized, just in different ways. The ones that are able to feel "what love asking for us" are leaving this ship and fast with their children!there is no place for us here anymore. I assume that we will be able to be that balance by living in the diaspora, before the state was created as may factions of religious orthodox claim that the jews should be dispersed in the world.
Mate Gibor fell into the trap of sticking to one narrative concerning history. Narratives are what people suffer for. After that it was a waste. Talking about love and expressing personal agenda is not honest.
The problem is that these two have taken a position against Israel and so whatever they say is coming from that position. That’s what will cause problems for those students of theirs who understand that Hamas has to be comprehensively defeated in order for there to be a way to build lasting peace in the region. A ceasefire not based on that will be victory for Hamas and a continuation of the cycle of jihadi terrorist attacks.
Tara, i think you misunderstood Gabor’s question on “why have so many Jewish people become Buddhists”? I’m sorry but your answer seemed to imply Jewish arrogance that is such a big problem in our culture. You said “because they’re so intelligent that they grasp the Buddhist teaching’s, more than others ” (I’m paraphrasing). The correct answer was “because the Jewish teachings have so many problems, No 1 is believing innocent Palestinians should die for wanting their own land that was taken from them in the 1948 NAKBA and all the torture and death that has happened since. It’s illegal to even say the word “NAKBA” in Israel. The answer I believe Gabor was seeking “due to all the fallacies and misconceptions in the Jewish Religion, many have moved to Buddhism”. ❤
Politics is to be a human being- Are you always 100 percent one single person? taking in different perspectives and viewpoints does NOT be you those viewpoints- focus on the I am- awareness regardless of the perspective that you may believe in.
Two of my most favorite people. You both have been guidposts to me in my life. You both have been catalysts for positive change. You both have helped me to reframe my perspectives. Thank you from the bottom of my soul.
Ditto!!!❤️❤️❤️❤️🌟🌟🌟
....you just wrote exactly my thoughts ❤🎉🙏
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Reclaimed my family name back to Oppenheimer, may we Jewish Buddhists show the example of a true Bodhisattva in this world, recognise the hate, see what's underneath and care for it, see the fears, hurt, grief as all our pain and suffering. Not judge those who can't feel it, instead see the leg caught in the trap anywhere and everywhere there is the expression of 'negativity'. Truly grateful for both your deep wisdom and compassion and courage to speak about this. May all fighting, war and famine cease forever.
Thank you ❤ as another buddhist trying to stand up and speak up skillfully and with heart this is a great inspiration
I am on the verge of tears hearing these two in conversation. My heart is being pried open and it hurts in a most wonderful way. I've been struggling with my own anger and resentment and deep judgements of others and grappling.. to see it mirrored and to hear some guidance on how to navigate. This came at just the right moment.
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I am feeling your tears as I read your post. We are doing inner work.
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This was very hard for me to watch. These are two of the thinkers and teachers I consider my guiding spiritual lights in life. I have tremendous love and admiration for both. This issue drives apart so many. Since October 7 I have struggled so hard holding so many truths up at the same time, and it’s painful and difficult. I have felt heartbreak that two of my greatest teachers see things differently or hold views that don’t align to mine. But….i will always listen to every word they have to say and keep an open mind and an open heart, with this and every complicated facet of this world of trauma . A deep thanks to both of you for all you have given me! Love to all.
what do you see differently? what does not align?
@@marylusunshinesounds like they don’t have a background in understanding the truth of the Palestinian struggle. Some will open, others just won’t.
I believe i understand your condition. Blessings to you for the willingness to struggle within against understandable polarity.🫶🏻
@@jasondunphy8467sadly my closest friend is like this & we had to agree to just not discuss this situation. In a similar vein, how hard it is for Americans to feel compassion and understanding toward the 9/11 & other related terrorists, the radicalized middle Easterners, AND young americans, which arose from US support via supplying weapons, and our own killings of people from such nations, our country’s disdain for Muslims, our people’s racial profiling after 9/11. Some of the US motives were perhaps justified, or understandable, while some was economic, political, and race motivated. How few, if any imagine, of our fellow citizens have attempted the inner battle this understanding & perspective takes, not to mention the danger of expressing it…❤
Same here😢 heartbreaking 💔 to hear a lack of empathy , and one sided spiritual viewpoint
I admire you more and more, Tara. Thank you for this oppportunity. Gives me hope for the future of the world we live in, that my son and the following generations will live. Thank you and thank you Dr Mate
I am going to listen to this again and again. ❤
Thank you Tara Brach and Dr. Mate Gabor for helping me to shift and open my awareness and heart to the painful situation in Palestine with new eyes. Thank you for helping me to bring this awareness to other very challenging people and situations as well.
Thank you, Tara, for this conversation. I appreciate you. I appreciate your commitment to the dharma as action in the world. Deep bow.
Omg a duo I didn't know I needed. I haven't even watched this yet but already I know the world is better off for these to having joined in conversation.
What an amazing conversation, filled with so much compassion and love for all of humanity. Just what our world needs right now ; to all live this beautiful brief life together sharing our beautiful world with love regardless of nationality or religion. Thank you for opening our hearts to love not war ❤️❤️🙏🏻🙏🏻
Love and appreciate both of you so much. Gabor always bring the realness! I will add to Tara's words about speaking truth with compassion and respect for the other: yes, so very important, and I think that compassion isn't always soft! Sometimes it is fierce, strong, and unceasing. As long as our intention is in check, sometimes this kind of compassionate truth telling is what's needed to call someone's deeper self forward.
Tara. Youu are the most brilliant teacher. Your words and beautiful voice go straight to my heart. You are a true Bodhisattva. So glad I have you to listen to in this crazy historical moment. And Gabor, I totally get the way you feel too. Thank you for your honesty in opening up every part of you. You are a master too. But most of all, you are beautifully human.
Disarming the heart! So tender and so powerful! Yes, that's the key! Thank you💖 Tara and Gabor! With greetings from Germany
Thank you both for your honesty humanity and deep care. 💛
Absolutely love this collab
The silence of this community has surprised me as well…and makes me sad.
Silence about what, specifically? I am genuinely curious and would like to know more about your perspective. My Jewish friends have said these exact words since Oct 7, but so have my Palestinian friends (speaking long before October 7 as well as now…).
I have felt so disappointed by the “ conspicuous silence”
The Palestinian’s current suffering and the Israeli’s Jewish people’s ancestral suffering is realized How we speak about this horror is so important. “Reverence for Life” Is what we need. NOW. It is so urgent. ‼️
@@carolannerobinson8351 You are bad othering that Tara is speaking of. (as am I with this comment)
Thank you 🕊❤🙏
2 genuine people. Not all is Lost.
thank u fir having this great man on
He is a man of integrity ❤
Tara: thank you for your courage. I am sure it feels lonely. Mary Oliver for your broken heart.
Loneliness
I too have known loneliness.
I too have known what it is to feel
misunderstood,
rejected, and suddenly
not at all beautiful.
Oh, mother earth,
your comfort is great, your arms never withhold.
It has saved my life to know this.
Your rivers flowing, your roses opening in the morning.
Oh, motions of tenderness!
Thanks for opening up a river of grieving I am so tired of carrying. Stop the wars! I'm grateful for you and Gabor talking truth to power. We spend a trillion a year in this country on military weapons without thinking. Mindless! I would like to say thank you for noticing the difficulties some buddhist teachers have not following my teachers Martin Luther King Jr and Thich Nhat Hanh in calls to stop the war in Gaza. Encourage them to speak out. Let's practice teaching ahimsa non harm as first principle of our moral imagination. Tim Colman Seattle
Tara 🩷 thank you 🙏
As a young postwar child growing up in New Zealand I was deeply traumatized when learning of the Holocaust Hitler instigated in W.W.2. As time went on I studied history and the horror
deepened at what was done to the Jews ( and others). Within me empathy and compassion for the Jewish people grew.
I watch right now the genocide of the Palestinian people in Gaza and my heart is being ripped apart. I feel alot of empathy and compassion particularly for the Palestinian people. And my mind is blown in disbelief that the Jewish people of Israel are doing what they are doing in the light of the Jewish holocaust in W.W.2
Your voice is very beautiful and thank you for sharing the Bodisatva teachings Tara. Both very supportive and helpful 🙏 Thank you so much Tara
Thank You Tara Bach. Much Love and Gratitude ❤
What a beautiful conversation. Thank you both for every word spoken. You two are both hugely important voices in my own path of awakening. Thank you again for everything!
Such an important conversation! We need to bring light, love and truth to this situation. In 1973 I visited Lebanon and saw a Palestinian camp there. People had been living for many years in tents on barren lots surrounded by chain link fences. Since they had been forced from their land without papers, they had no citizenship and were not allowed to leave the encampment. Some years later these people were murdered. This horrific tragedy has been ongoing for 70 + years.
Many, many thanks to you both! This was wonderful and inspiring on so many levels. I will remember the soft front and strong back 🙏
I love you both & your work so much. Namaste 💖
As many have said, you and Dr. Gabor Maté have been guiding lights for me on my journey. Thank you both ❤🌬🌸🌸🌸
Thank you for being courageous and speaking truth.
Tara you are inspiring me so much this year and really helping me on my spiritual journey to heart awakening. I thankyou for your deep compassion and ability to communicate it so wisley. Namaste 🙏
Two great souls with true humanity
Oh wow, what a collaboration. I've read 2 books by Mate (In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts and Scattered Minds) and I've listened to lots of lectures and interviews with him. Big fan
🙏 ❤ ❤❤🙏 Thank you both for the light that you shine. It takes courage and compassion/strong back/soft heart to be fully present and being human in the face of hate, violence, othering, grieving, trauma.
We are the person in the woods who fibds a dog, and, we are the wounded dog that lashes out because our leg is stuck in a trap.
Love and peace to all.
Namaste 🙏
While I have deep respect for both the speakers, and the teachings of Buddha - they have changed my life in significant ways, I wonder if these teachings and talks can influence the narcissistic power systems around the world that have been causing suffering, damage, and death from the beginning of time. All I can do is empathize with the victims, and be grateful that, while I'm struggling in my own ways within these power structures, I'm in a relatively stable and peaceful space. It may sound apathetic and selfish, but it's the ground reality. 💔🙏
I hear you and believe that those systems are more vulnerable than ever before. The tables will turn when a critical mass of people take their own divine authority back and refuse to participate in those exploitative dilemmas that require the continuation of suffering. There are many wars at home that are not recognized as such - namely civil rights violations; when courts and cops are immune and prey on the people, we have no choice but to do as we believe we must from our soul. A critical mass of people must stop believing in the authority of these systems and organize around the people's natural rights again.
I have the same questions. And when we are watching a horror unfold…I’m not sure what the best approach is, but I’m not comfortable doing or saying nothing.
Thank you so much Tara Brach and Dr Gabor Mate for talking so truthfully and passionately about how people who care about the Israelis and Palestinians may hold this situatian with deep love and search our hearts for ambiguities and othering. I am an Australian woman born at the end of WW2 in March 1945. I feel deep grief every day about what is happening in our world and find myself crying when alone, often unable not to express my grief.
I had been drawn to study accounts of the Holocaust again, to some depth and to restart my practice of Insight meditation. I am very grateful to view your online talk and will do so again and again.
What a beautiful ending to our collective blaming others..much love
Thank you so much for your wise approach to such a painful situation.
As Tara says everything we say has consequences- And I would add everything we do NOT say has consequences.
It is so noteworthy what Gabor says about how silent many Buddhist teachers are being about the Israeli/ Palestinian situation. And yet how willing they are to speak out about other issues ie- me too movement, and bipoc issues.
I would say there is an aspiration to not ‘other’ people but we still need to speak even if we can’t perfectly hold compassion and equanimity. Would Buddhist teachers not say anything about Hitler/ nazis for fear of othering and anger towards them?
I see Gabor being so authentic in his challenges. Yes to work on disarming and also yes to not being silent and apathetic.
Thank you so much for such an honest conversation about this deeply troubling situation. Two of the greatest thinkers of our time speaking on such a divisive topic was powerful to watch. I really appreciate the candor and authenticity you both share during this. Thank you.
Thank you Tara and Gabor.
thank you tara and gabor
Powerless..does seem to be the root...and to acknowledge how at times we feel helpless...I Love your RAIN approach Tara~
How do you find an openness in your heart for “soldiers” who are boasting about how many children they’ve killed and parading around in lingerie of a woman’s home that was bombed to the ground into rubble ? Some of these so called “soldiers” come from other countries and I think sometimes it might not even be trauma that they are regurgitated but just plain ignorance and propaganda that is controlling their evil behavior. Something that is hard to grasp especially when you see thousands of children in pieces and in plastic bags , how can you look to that human who committed these crimes with any compassion? I believe there is evil in this world and many spiritual teachers dont acknowledge evil. This is very hard to grasp. Thank you both for creating this space. Free all oppressed people.❤️🕊️🙏🏽
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Thank you so much both of you 🙏 absolutely loved listening to both off you 🙏💫
big Thanks for sharing this dialogue, this serves me as nourishment to keep trodding on the path of heart and courage
AHO Mitakuye Oyasin!
I have absorbed a beautiful amount from that-enough to continue an amazing journey. Gratitude to both of you and to beautiful spirit that opened this to me on my phone when I was waking late in bed.(don’t know how)
Oh wow - two of my favourite leaders in conversation!!!
Deepest love gratitude and respect to you both …
Together as place our hearts under the waterfall of truth beauty and love… we witness a new dawning within… and patiently and steadfastly without … Love you Tara
Love is telling you to be comfortable with the decisions you have consciously made. You are loved. This love will not be lost.
Thank you. Needed. An important conversation, bringin’ it all home.
Thank you for deep and inspiring teaching, we need that clear open heart and strength with compassion, deep bow from Poland ❤🙏
Difficult time dealing with this ongoing tragic situation. Important topic to talk about. Thank you both for your safe space to Darma talk. I appreciate your benevolence and gentleness.
Me too I felt flabbergasted and immensely sad about 'my' mystic teacher Thomas Huebl not speaking out about what happened on, after AND BEFORE the 7th of October. Silence. Complete silence. I waited. In vain. I lost trust. Feel quite unsafe to express myself in 'his' community. I feel multiple elephants in the cabinet are ignored. Teachings goes on as if nothing has happened. It deeply hurts. I yearn for teachers that can walk their talk and choose for ALL sides. And yes, it is fully understandable that we foremost speak out for the 'direct' victims. But then it is crucial to find ways forward and justice for all, I believe we need to open up to ALL concern from ALL sides (never two!). I hardly know how, but that's the direction I want to take, that's where i long for guidance. I thank you so much for this beautiful open conversation Gabor and Tara . Can we talk more about how to practice to go beyond the Right/Wrong and Win/Lose paradigm? 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Personally, I try to meditate in order to give, not to get. My motivation behind whatever work I do on myself is to be the change I want to see in the world we all share. For me it is is essential that any internal cultivation I do is for the benefit of all earthlings.
Both of these people are in their element to give their all to themselves, and others...wishing you the best, too...
A social issue that the Buddha showed once was when there was a battle, he separated a few people from the calamity and showed what the Karmic result was to these people...also, the Buddha finding the person's marked piece of wood in a huge pile...some people were calm before this act, other people were riled up...
Whoa! Thank you for this. I really need this wisdom to keep me from hating right now.
Systems change can be from within
If we don’t have the capacity to go out into the world
We can still make a huge difference within our own system
Which is the interconnected system of everyone
Silence of our minds is in order now. It may seem too simplistic to some, but at the end of the day this is what we’re being called to do in order to make peace in the world.
Thank you
Thank you so much for this. I am of Jewish heritage (100% as it happens) but never identified strongly with it. I always bristled about zionism. It is true - this situation has no resolution -- IF we are stuck in the perspective of blame and vindication. The scenario on both sides is awful;, appalling. But NOTHING ultimately justifies violence, hatred, umbrage, blame. How can this ever further anything to a different level? I don't know how one can achieve the sort of spaciousness required, but as far as I can fathom it, there is no other option.
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Tara and Gabor. 😮❤
Tara you are such a beautiful spirit. So is Gabor. Thank you both for speaking out about the suffering causing more suffering. It is NOT about sides. It is about human rights. We are all capable of other-izing. Human hands create beauty and horror. Let’s choose peace. Let’s do the inner work. “It is never my suffering it’s our suffering”.
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Allah loves u both, and inshallah u will be with righteous one in jannah
I so relate to the feeling of powerlessness Of no answer. Of not being heard by US government. 💔
Wish I could join in the dialogue from my perspective on radical acceptance
& trauma as a child of a holocaust survivor. 🎉
Love is asking us to forgive, have compassion and stop cancelling and throwing people away!!
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Does love ask us to first choose sides? ”Take the worst things about Hamas, multiply it by 1,000, and it still will not meet the Israeli repression and killing of Palestinians" ~Gabor Maté, Holocaust survivor
Omg i love that Tara uses the fictional/coined word “grock”😂😂 anyone remember what novel that is from? 💗😂💜🙏🏻
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Why is there a bias towards the Israelis vs the Palestinians in the US government? So much more aid is given to the Israelis but not towards the Palestinians. If we are aiming for equanimity we need to give equally to both. And imo not give military aid to either😢
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A wonderful honest conversation between two people l admire and respect greatly. However, l still find l have a difficulty with the simile of the dog with its leg caught in a trap - people have the ability to self-reflect and restrain themselves from harming others - animals do not. I feel that in my personal life l have let another person get away with abusive actions too often by being understanding of their own wounding rather than demanding accountability. Sometimes the soft front or understanding heart can impede the strength of the back necessary to put a stop to the abuse.
That's the difficulty where discerning wisdom comes in. We must be conscious of our own wounding and need to protect ourselves without allowing our hearts to become armoured towards the other. We can love from a distance, we are not required to return to an abusive situation. We can still do the inner work, to have the intention of keeping our hearts open. 🙏
Please, nice words, could someone please please please, explain all this nice stuff about compassion and love to Netanyahu??? Why only jewish suffering is allowed to revenge? I am Palestinian deep in my soul, as a buddhist, we need to take action for true peace
I'm Germanic. So, if you make it personal, I'd say you should do two things: pray and/or follow standard religions. If you don't feel like making it personal, don't get in trouble and please stay away from "my buddies." :)
It's important to remember that in the Christian, Jewish, and Islamic faiths, Abraham is the father of both Arabs and Jews. We are brothers. The first murder in all faiths was between brothers because one's sacrifice was rejected by God. How hurt Cain/Qabil must have felt when his ever loving, holy father rejected his sacrifice that he worked so hard for by toiling in his fields. From hurt sprang violence. From violence springs hurt. It's a cycle.
Did not the bhudda give up his privilege? It was a radical rejection of his privilege. There were evolved reasons but also a statement of politics. Do I misunderstood this?
Appreciate you both! I needed to hear about Gabor’s rage at the Zionist Occupational/IOF genocide in the early days. The silence/denial was excruciating for those who have known the truth about Isnotreal for decades! I’m more horrified now than ever actually at the embarrassingly slow white, entitlement that I still today. Experiencing how deeply the fingers of this authoritarian/sick masculinity beast would reach right into my own 11 year long otherwise happy marriage. My Zen Buddhist husband who hasn’t known about Israel comes from a conservative, big oil family & his (from my perspective) disinterest &avoidance like his entire family, plus my detached “spiritual” friends who “aren’t affected” has torn my heart and soul to shreds! The “side” I’ve been on since I learned about Israel in 1990 at age twenty has always been with me. That it’s wrong to steal oil/land from the oppressed. Naturally!! I saw “Free Palestine” in spray paint and wondered what it meant. Montreal. Anyway, Hardest year of my life and I once lost my son and absolutely everyone & everything. But this past year has been/is SO 🤬 HARD!!!!
What Gabor says is so true, re jews in the US at least taking criticism of Israel as anti-Semitism. Im not anti-Jew, but i am horrified by what the israeli leader has done to The Palestinian people in response to the horrible terrorist attack by Hamas, as well as the longlongtime abuse of Palestinians by Israeli government, army, police.
Speaking up against this genocide get us attacked as being hateful.
What do you exactly object to and what do you propose??
I hope you are not suggesting cease fire (read "oppurtunity for terrorists to repeat their filthy pattern). I feel sorry for all those people who are suffering tremendously in those areas, but WHO is responsible for that? And how should it be prevented?
vengeance is a lazy form of grief.....wow
Mama bear has a hard time enacting this because when she did, her compassion was exploited. When someone who was attacked gets forced into an adversarial legal system they can't afford representation in and must represent themselves, with all the tricks that are played, it's doubly difficult to employ this philosophy. Human nature has problems to overcome but our systems actively suppress and attack the evolution of our consciousness.
Please try to illuminate your fellow jew people with your nice buddhist sentences. Buddha first said: LIFE is sacred, and the buddhanature exists in EACH HUMAN being. Why jews are allowed to revenge??? Please, is the 1st and 2nd class persons? Why all this lies???
I can’t learn from a Buddhist teacher that doesn’t follow the Buddha’s principles plain and simple. He wouldn’t have stayed silent in this time. Shame on all the usurpers of his teachings !!!
I guess I am one of the few that is repulsed by this conversation. Love does not mean laying your arms down in the face of people that would slaughter you and your children. I have one question. If Israel were to surrender all their weapons tomorrow what would happen over the next few weeks. Conversely if the Hamas were to lay down all their weapons and fully integrate what would happen? Peace would happen and all the walls would come down.
Thank you! My thoughts exactly. You are not alone.
This response shows how little you know about Israeli history and politics. Hamas is a response to Israeli brutality over many decades. If Israel were to surrender all their weapons, there would be no need for Hamas to exist. As long as Israel continues to use weapons to inflict carnage on the indigenous Palestinians (including Palestinian Jews), there will be no peace for anyone in the region.
Listen to the Martyr Made podcast series called “Fear and Loathing in the New Jerusalem” - a thorough, well researched, and very fair history of Zionism - if you want to actually learn about how *all* of this violence is rooted in the very foundations of Zionism. The Palestinian resistance is a response to ongoing Zionist aggression, not an aggressor itself.
Does anyone suggested doing just that in this conversation? What was said that in 500 years with lots of meditation on suffering we might get there. Pretty realistic time plan.
@@oksanap9005 not if only one side does the meditation. Both sides need to meditate and one of the sides would rather die than meditate.
@@blueskies1237my perception is the opposite: both sides want to LIVE and thrive but while one side is thriving, they are holding power over the other, and not letting the other side have a chance at life or thriving. Any human would RESIST that. No justice, no peace.
Unfortunately, as an Israeli I can tell you that the mind control here is so deep, that feeling compassion for the "enemy" is considered sympathy for the enemy and you should weight carefully expressing it in public without consequences, both sides are dehumanized, just in different ways. The ones that are able to feel "what love asking for us" are leaving this ship and fast with their children!there is no place for us here anymore. I assume that we will be able to be that balance by living in the diaspora, before the state was created as may factions of religious orthodox claim that the jews should be dispersed in the world.
A dangerous man for those of us who are neurodivergent. Be very aware of his controversial theories.
Mate Gibor fell into the trap of sticking to one narrative concerning history. Narratives are what people suffer for. After that it was a waste. Talking about love and expressing personal agenda is not honest.
The problem is that these two have taken a position against Israel and so whatever they say is coming from that position. That’s what will cause problems for those students of theirs who understand that Hamas has to be comprehensively defeated in order for there to be a way to build lasting peace in the region. A ceasefire not based on that will be victory for Hamas and a continuation of the cycle of jihadi terrorist attacks.
Tara, i think you misunderstood Gabor’s question on “why have so many Jewish people become Buddhists”? I’m sorry but your answer seemed to imply Jewish arrogance that is such a big problem in our culture. You said “because they’re so intelligent that they grasp the Buddhist teaching’s, more than others ” (I’m paraphrasing). The correct answer was “because the Jewish teachings have so many problems, No 1 is believing innocent Palestinians should die for wanting their own land that was taken from them in the 1948 NAKBA and all the torture and death that has happened since. It’s illegal to even say the word “NAKBA” in Israel. The answer I believe Gabor was seeking “due to all the fallacies and misconceptions in the Jewish Religion, many have moved to Buddhism”. ❤
Im so disappointed that you've letting politics into this space that used to be a place of wisdom and neutrality.
Politics is to be a human being- Are you always 100 percent one single person? taking in different perspectives and viewpoints does NOT be you those viewpoints- focus on the I am- awareness regardless of the perspective that you may believe in.
You can get to wisdom and neutrality without politics!
Then just move on.....
I appreciate both of these folks & love that they're bringing in wisdom & neutrality to this conversation & widening the lens
genocide is a moral issue, not political
Tara can you talk to Kamala and help her. She needs help speaking. You can guide her to say what she needs to say and how she needs to say it
We can all learn from Thich Nhat Hanhs approach to engaged Buddhism while not picking sides 🙏🏼🪷
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