Just imagine jumping 9 meters forward 😂 I know a guy who's 2m tall and he looks like a giant. This guy is basically jumping over 4 times his length if he was lying down. It's incredible if you think.
lol they do not spend half their time or even close to that working on getting the foot pattern they just measure that shit. i kno it would change it a lot but is it so hard to imagine it without it. and the argument (which so many ppl have used) that it isnt like real life jumping over a gap or something doesnt really hold up for me cos no one complains about high jump athletes landin the fosbury flop on their necks, which is hardly an effective way of jumping a fence or likewise
if you look at the yellow line which is the leader.. 8.73m he jumps about 20-30cm over it and his foot was about 20-30cm over so i would say he jumped exactly the same as his first jump lol
i still think they should change the way this is done, and take the fouling out of the event. we have the technology to just measure from take off point and we would see a lot of big jumps which is what everyone wants
Because it's not a linear thing. 1cm extra on the board, doesn't equate 1cm in the pit. Many things come into play, runway speed, wind speed, flight technique, landing. All these factors will vary the resulting distance. One can argue that hang technique gets more assistance from wind, but it doesn't give a better landing position than hitch. Irvin here used single kick hitch which is like half hang half double hitch. There's also the fact that the plasticine is raised. So you get a slight height boost. Try it yourself. Do a standing jump from a point, and measure. Then increase the starting point by 5cm. Even if you manage to replicate everything (effort, timing, landing) you won't get the same measurement all the time. Now put a small 2x4 under your toes, and note the resulting effect.
Saladino, who said he had not started training until April after knee surgery, joined 2004 Olympic champion Dwight Phillips in missing Saturday's final. Phillips, four times a world champion, had surgery on an Achilles injury and missed the U.S. trials, leaving an already open long jump competition even more difficult to call.
(to continue). why not remove time from races while we are at it? I mean, it's who gets to the finish line first right? Yea you can remove the board and just jump and use lasers and stuff to mark where each jump was made from, but it removes the challenge and ultimately what makes it interesting. How awesome would it be to watch everyone run wild like cavemen and jump? If my point isnt clear yet, I have nothing else to give. So this is the last reply.
i get you but if they made the board much larger and took the measurement from the toe, it'd make for more jumps and i think itd still be exciting. the reason the board is there is because they didnt have the tech to measure the exact takeoff point before...now they do.
The plank is just stupid, if they step over it, punish them by the amount of cm they overstepped, and if they jumped before the plank, they should give extra cm to their jump, so that we actually know how far they jumped, the plank is stupid
So many? I think there have been maybe 6 or 7 of these ever: this one, a couple by Pedroso, I think Powell had one, and the most blatant case was by the GOAT Carl Lewis very early in his career, at Indianapolis 1982, which looked like a legal 9.15m mark and was controversially ruled a foul. Maybe I'm missing one or two others but that's it. Lewis' jump can be seen briefly at 1:55 in the vid "The Perfect Jump (1983)".
The plasticine gives a huge spring, far more than the board would. So utilising all that springy plasticine would inevitably give a decent jumper a huge boost.
It is my proposal. Thus, how about changing [ he ] into the rule measured from the place which lost much more thing springboard and each player crossed, although he is doing a 9-m jump? If it is right, anyone, foul is lost and can measure Makoto's skip distance. It should also do a triple jump so. highjump and the pole vault -- such a crossing board etc. -- probably it will not be .
Honestly... Do you even do long jump, or at least, do track and field? Or are you one of those people who sit in the spectator seats and talk bullshit based on what's on paper? The run up is more important that any other phase... because it is the run up that gives you all you need to jump far. Anything after the take off is to maximize distance. And that's where the importance of the board comes in. Do you even know that the run up is counted/measured? Or do you think they just run and jump???
We would have longer but unatural and useless jump...in nature long jump skill is useful to overcome obstacle...If you do the longer jump but chosing the wrong takeoff point you will fall into the gorge...Instead I think the champion would be the one who is able to overcome the obstacle matching a long jump with the ability of chosing the right take off poinT!
that's ridiculous... 80% of long jump is about having a evenly paced and constant run-up... thats what these people train for just as much if not more than their jumping technique. If you take away the run-up technique, youll be taking away most of the technicalities of long jump.
yh there are two sides to it. i think ppl are not really watching the event especially the way its run and televised simultaneously to other events, so there is not the same drama as weve had in older competitions. also the world records would have to be categorised if the format was changed. i think something should be done tho
true but its not really a skill the way it is in other events like high jump or throwing events. your not supposed to judge the board youre supposed to measure stride pattern then run and really just hope you land. i dno i see that it would take an element of skill out of it but i still think the current format leads to more fouling out than any other event
9.05 - 0.25 on board, minus wind assistance...it was really windy... this is a 8.50 jump at best... yes, dont change it...jumping before the board is part of the skill...why not let shotputters just put frmo anywhere?, of hammer throwers just spin to their heart's content and then let go?... how about javelin throwers can run up and throw from wherever they want?... measure from there?... nah, doesnt work.
No we don't change the sport. That's how it has been since ancient olympia and we are not changing it now. People have practiced their whole lives taking of before the board and it would ruin everything.
So many 9m fouls by people with pr's at 8,70.. It's impossible to decide the distance of a long jump without measuring tape. This, most likely wasn't 9m.
Great Idea. The competition is "who can jump the furthest?" not who can "hit the board most accurately and ......". OTOH if one is jumping over a large pit or from one roof to the other there will be consequences (ie a penalty) for a foul.
Its the way they measure it. They don't measure where the feet land unless that is all that lands the majority of the time your feet are the furthest thing from the jump when they land. Landing on your back/butt or anything other than your feet causes you to fall backwards taking off large chunks of the jump.
In the "old days" they would show each jump; and in the high jump; each jump at each height. So a track meet was pretty interesting and often dramatic. Now they show the winning jump and that is it. Besides your idea of measuring from the take off in the LJ, what about allowing a two footed takeoff in the high jump? And maybe in the high jump require a two footed landing. Track and field was demonstrating military skills---if you Fosbury flopped over a wall in combat--you couldn't fight.
im not sure about high jump i donnt have any big issues with the technique around that event, since most jumpers will have a higher vertical off one leg but it would be interesting to play around with it. if u enforced a two footed landing dont you think ppl would just learn to finish the flip? so it would still essentially be a fosbury flop?
if he kept his feet up on the landing he would have had another 2-3 feet..you can see a big gap between where his feet hit and where his body landed. still better than my long jump though
half of the challenge is being able to get your footing right so that you are behind the line, and or get as close to it as possible without touching it, it puts pressure on the athlete and adds more to it that just running and jumping as far as possible.
yh i know i wouldnt say it takes the talent out it certainly takes out a part of the skill. i dno maybe thats not the solution but i certainly think the event is in the doldrums and its one of the biggest parts of athleticism
getting on the board is just as much part of the event as the jump... if you aren't consistent at the board then you failed to practice the part of the event that matters the most.
yh i do athletics. did u even read what i said? of course the run up is important but you dont spend much time in training day to day measuring it out do you.
misleading title. the wind looked strong and he was 25cm over the perfect take off. you'd have to take it back at least 30cm and that makes this behind the yellow line, which was 8.73m. (his previous leading mark in this comp).
Actually they do. Since you are suggesting removing the rule from the event, why not remove the rules that other events are judged from. You need a base to judge the competition off. Just like with high jump or pole vault like he mentioned... Why not remove the the bar since the jumper hits it on the way down(most times) because obviously they jumped higher than the bar. See how much sense your idea is making now? It's a part of the competition. If you cant master it, dont compete.
actually thatd be pretty cool. they could at least make the bar narrower- almost a string. again, the reason that things are the way they are is because they didnt have the technology to measure how high someone could jump..they could only measure if they could jump a bar at a certain height.
No i dont.. but I spend a hell of a lot of time making sure everything is precise going to it then executing after. The board is part of the competition(a part of the challenge). Removing it removes the challenge. Like I said in another post to you here, it's like removing the high jump bar. Going with your point, why not remove it. Because hey, I jump far above it didn't I? The board does more than creating a reference point, it makes the event interesting and challenging.
yes it makes it interesting, but i dont think it'd be less interesting. its analogous to measuring the time in a 100m from when the athlete starts, not from when the gun goes off. you could have a timer run down and the athlete needs to start within 1 second of a buzzer. id also add that whatever the wind is, also gets converted..in the 100m is well recognised that its 0.07/m/s of wind.
Foul or not, that is simply an incredible jump!
I was thinking the same, 8 meters is considered world class so this is brilliant
Just imagine jumping 9 meters forward 😂 I know a guy who's 2m tall and he looks like a giant. This guy is basically jumping over 4 times his length if he was lying down. It's incredible if you think.
@@katjakaski6804 hmm. 8 metres is considered national class In most countries but absolutely not world class…. That would be something over 8.40.
I agree. Absolutely incredible.
@xseeker339 Try what? Fouling? What's your point?
lol they do not spend half their time or even close to that working on getting the foot pattern they just measure that shit. i kno it would change it a lot but is it so hard to imagine it without it. and the argument (which so many ppl have used) that it isnt like real life jumping over a gap or something doesnt really hold up for me cos no one complains about high jump athletes landin the fosbury flop on their necks, which is hardly an effective way of jumping a fence or likewise
This guy is way faster than he looks due to the long strides.
Efficient speed
Starts getting excited at his long jump despite stepping his whole foot through the plasticine 😂😂😂
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He fouled because of the slight step forward he took b4 he started to run I'm sure
if you look at the yellow line which is the leader.. 8.73m he jumps about 20-30cm over it and his foot was about 20-30cm over so i would say he jumped exactly the same as his first jump lol
Great jump. The distance actually covered wasn't 9 metres but it was probably at least 8.75.
This is what many people ignore for consideration when seeing long fouls
nha probably 8.65 more likely
@@ulfjohansson-tr2ne hmmm...maybe, maybe not hehe
Considering the shoes size and the previous mark materialised by the yellow line you can presumably say he was around 8.80/8.85
probably a bird in his past life
i still think they should change the way this is done, and take the fouling out of the event. we have the technology to just measure from take off point and we would see a lot of big jumps which is what everyone wants
Now that's an interesting idea.
So behind the board would have been a 2.68M jump.
That was far as hell but if he didn't foul it
Would be about 8.80-8.90 very close but wouldn't pass mike Powell
It very well might. You're going off of cameras and your eyes here and that's very decieving.
Why don't they just measure how far he went over the board and take it off the measured leap ? A new way of doing things.
Because it's not a linear thing. 1cm extra on the board, doesn't equate 1cm in the pit. Many things come into play, runway speed, wind speed, flight technique, landing. All these factors will vary the resulting distance.
One can argue that hang technique gets more assistance from wind, but it doesn't give a better landing position than hitch. Irvin here used single kick hitch which is like half hang half double hitch.
There's also the fact that the plasticine is raised. So you get a slight height boost.
Try it yourself. Do a standing jump from a point, and measure. Then increase the starting point by 5cm. Even if you manage to replicate everything (effort, timing, landing) you won't get the same measurement all the time. Now put a small 2x4 under your toes, and note the resulting effect.
A foul jump is a no jump, does not matter for any official record book.
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Cuba 's Pedroso player was surely recorded near 9 m 20 while being fouled and was also upgraded to youtube.
Saladino, who said he had not started training until April after knee surgery, joined 2004 Olympic champion Dwight Phillips in missing Saturday's final.
Phillips, four times a world champion, had surgery on an Achilles injury and missed the U.S. trials, leaving an already open long jump competition even more difficult to call.
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(to continue). why not remove time from races while we are at it? I mean, it's who gets to the finish line first right? Yea you can remove the board and just jump and use lasers and stuff to mark where each jump was made from, but it removes the challenge and ultimately what makes it interesting. How awesome would it be to watch everyone run wild like cavemen and jump? If my point isnt clear yet, I have nothing else to give. So this is the last reply.
HouZdar lol I'm a bit late to this but thank you! Someone that freaking has some common sense
i get you but if they made the board much larger and took the measurement from the toe, it'd make for more jumps and i think itd still be exciting. the reason the board is there is because they didnt have the tech to measure the exact takeoff point before...now they do.
yes yes its over even minus that over board but its esier jump on that. why not jump behind board then add that distance to total
yes this opinion has only been voiced to me about 30 times in the comments below already. thank you. it was just a thought.
dam if he wouldve landed right on the board for that jump it wouldve been a record
Cahlil Cheavor not at all
World record is 8.95, he jumped about 8.80
Orange Broom He was over 9m but that was a huge foul....IF he was on the board it might have been 29'+
@@OrangeBroom not even..
Bro, of course not, look where he's foot was, and markers aren't absolutely accurate
The plank is just stupid, if they step over it, punish them by the amount of cm they overstepped, and if they jumped before the plank, they should give extra cm to their jump, so that we actually know how far they jumped, the plank is stupid
well it looks roughly 6 ins. or 16 cm over, so i'll give him 8.85. not bad pal.
about 9.05 , substract 20cm, around 8.85m.
Fouls ruin the sport imo, its less about how far you jump and a lot of people could jump farther if they didn't exist
Excuse me not even 9 meter plus the foul and do measures or just watch the video carefully dude
So many? I think there have been maybe 6 or 7 of these ever: this one, a couple by Pedroso, I think Powell had one, and the most blatant case was by the GOAT Carl Lewis very early in his career, at Indianapolis 1982, which looked like a legal 9.15m mark and was controversially ruled a foul. Maybe I'm missing one or two others but that's it.
Lewis' jump can be seen briefly at 1:55 in the vid "The Perfect Jump (1983)".
more like 8.85
That looks like 9.6 meters
Whoever disliked goes to hell fr fr
What about wind ?
Why did that look effortless
The plasticine gives a huge spring, far more than the board would. So utilising all that springy plasticine would inevitably give a decent jumper a huge boost.
@@nationalist5422 Are you joking? Nobady cares about what he can do, but what that jumper can do.
no it doesnt. it actually absorbs energy. are you just making shit up?.
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I think it was to keep he's ballance and not land on he's ass. But maybe he knew he stepped over the line...
go saladino :D
It is my proposal.
Thus, how about changing [ he ] into the rule measured from the place which lost much more thing springboard and each player crossed, although he is doing a 9-m jump?
If it is right, anyone, foul is lost and can measure Makoto's skip distance.
It should also do a triple jump so.
highjump and the pole vault -- such a crossing board etc. -- probably it will not be .
Honestly... Do you even do long jump, or at least, do track and field? Or are you one of those people who sit in the spectator seats and talk bullshit based on what's on paper? The run up is more important that any other phase... because it is the run up that gives you all you need to jump far. Anything after the take off is to maximize distance. And that's where the importance of the board comes in. Do you even know that the run up is counted/measured? Or do you think they just run and jump???
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We would have longer but unatural and useless jump...in nature long jump skill is useful to overcome obstacle...If you do the longer jump but chosing the wrong takeoff point you will fall into the gorge...Instead I think the champion would be the one who is able to overcome the obstacle matching a long jump with the ability of chosing the right take off poinT!
that's ridiculous... 80% of long jump is about having a evenly paced and constant run-up... thats what these people train for just as much if not more than their jumping technique. If you take away the run-up technique, youll be taking away most of the technicalities of long jump.
yh there are two sides to it. i think ppl are not really watching the event especially the way its run and televised simultaneously to other events, so there is not the same drama as weve had in older competitions. also the world records would have to be categorised if the format was changed. i think something should be done tho
true but its not really a skill the way it is in other events like high jump or throwing events. your not supposed to judge the board youre supposed to measure stride pattern then run and really just hope you land. i dno i see that it would take an element of skill out of it but i still think the current format leads to more fouling out than any other event
9.05 - 0.25 on board, minus wind assistance...it was really windy... this is a 8.50 jump at best... yes, dont change it...jumping before the board is part of the skill...why not let shotputters just put frmo anywhere?, of hammer throwers just spin to their heart's content and then let go?... how about javelin throwers can run up and throw from wherever they want?... measure from there?... nah, doesnt work.
No we don't change the sport. That's how it has been since ancient olympia and we are not changing it now. People have practiced their whole lives taking of before the board and it would ruin everything.
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So many 9m fouls by people with pr's at 8,70.. It's impossible to decide the distance of a long jump without measuring tape. This, most likely wasn't 9m.
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Great Idea. The competition is "who can jump the furthest?" not who can "hit the board most accurately and ......".
OTOH if one is jumping over a large pit or from one roof to the other there will be consequences (ie a penalty) for a foul.
Its the way they measure it. They don't measure where the feet land unless that is all that lands the majority of the time your feet are the furthest thing from the jump when they land. Landing on your back/butt or anything other than your feet causes you to fall backwards taking off large chunks of the jump.
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In the "old days" they would show each jump; and in the high jump; each jump at each height. So a track meet was pretty interesting and often dramatic. Now they show the winning jump and that is it.
Besides your idea of measuring from the take off in the LJ, what about allowing a two footed takeoff in the high jump? And maybe in the high jump require a two footed landing.
Track and field was demonstrating military skills---if you Fosbury flopped over a wall in combat--you couldn't fight.
i dont want to get any hate, but it seems as if he throws his fit down towards the sand.. why dosent he just keep them up and fly further.
im not sure about high jump i donnt have any big issues with the technique around that event, since most jumpers will have a higher vertical off one leg but it would be interesting to play around with it. if u enforced a two footed landing dont you think ppl would just learn to finish the flip? so it would still essentially be a fosbury flop?
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they have big shoes
if he kept his feet up on the landing he would have had another 2-3 feet..you can see a big gap between where his feet hit and where his body landed. still better than my long jump though
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half of the challenge is being able to get your footing right so that you are behind the line, and or get as close to it as possible without touching it, it puts pressure on the athlete and adds more to it that just running and jumping as far as possible.
yh i know i wouldnt say it takes the talent out it certainly takes out a part of the skill. i dno maybe thats not the solution but i certainly think the event is in the doldrums and its one of the biggest parts of athleticism
maybe they shouldnt change it but none of those examples in other events equate to what i suggested, so ease off with your sarcasm and illogic.
getting on the board is just as much part of the event as the jump... if you aren't consistent at the board then you failed to practice the part of the event that matters the most.
Pretty much everything : )
yh i do athletics. did u even read what i said? of course the run up is important but you dont spend much time in training day to day measuring it out do you.
it's hard to say as they never measure it, and those markers on the side always seem inaccurate, either way it's 20cm less than what he jumped
They do that with childs too, but this principe is used in a lot of events of Track and Field, for example Javelin throw
it wouldn't have been a 9m jump if they measure from where he jumped from.
well i didnt really expect that i would change anything just by posting a comment on youtube
That’s aboit 8:90 at Least
way over the line if he didnt foul he would only got like 8.5
Lots of wind, even if legal probably wouldn't have countered for a record.
i would love it if they measured it anyway, just to see what it actually was
@Shomeintheknee I looked again and yes, you are probably right.
Saltó objetivamente alrededor de 9.10 metros.
it doesnt matter...it didnt count, he didnt jump 9 meters
@dcsMURLZ Did you look where he fouled his foot was halfway over the line.....
So it was actually a 8.99m jump. Smh clickbaited
you get a lot of height to your jump when you jumpt from the wax
Takes the talent out of the event, It'd be like removing refs from Baseball.
they can jump far?
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@dcsMURLZ So you pretty much scoot his mark back to about 8.6
misleading title. the wind looked strong and he was 25cm over the perfect take off. you'd have to take it back at least 30cm and that makes this behind the yellow line, which was 8.73m. (his previous leading mark in this comp).
i bet usain bolt could clear the damn thing
but then it would be difficult to actually measure it correctly because you have to find the exact point where they took off from
nha.. technology can do it easily and quickly.
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Yes, it would have been over 8.95, a world record.. But then again, you gotta make it count, dont step it over
no it wouldnt have been..the yellow line is at 8.73m.
Actually they do. Since you are suggesting removing the rule from the event, why not remove the rules that other events are judged from. You need a base to judge the competition off. Just like with high jump or pole vault like he mentioned... Why not remove the the bar since the jumper hits it on the way down(most times) because obviously they jumped higher than the bar. See how much sense your idea is making now? It's a part of the competition. If you cant master it, dont compete.
actually thatd be pretty cool. they could at least make the bar narrower- almost a string. again, the reason that things are the way they are is because they didnt have the technology to measure how high someone could jump..they could only measure if they could jump a bar at a certain height.
No we ain't changing nothing!
No i dont.. but I spend a hell of a lot of time making sure everything is precise going to it then executing after. The board is part of the competition(a part of the challenge). Removing it removes the challenge. Like I said in another post to you here, it's like removing the high jump bar. Going with your point, why not remove it. Because hey, I jump far above it didn't I? The board does more than creating a reference point, it makes the event interesting and challenging.
yes it makes it interesting, but i dont think it'd be less interesting. its analogous to measuring the time in a 100m from when the athlete starts, not from when the gun goes off. you could have a timer run down and the athlete needs to start within 1 second of a buzzer.
id also add that whatever the wind is, also gets converted..in the 100m is well recognised that its 0.07/m/s of wind.
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These guys sound like Gru's minions
he fouled, its a zero people.
COMPLETELY AGREE
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why is lakkupipu guy speaking ?
do u have powell's wind aided 8.99?