I am an Arsenal fan, but you must first go backwards in order to get forward. When Emery was with us, we finished fifth. With Arteta, we finished tenth. Now we are second. So discussing this is meaningless; he only begun.
Pundits making themselves look stupid here. Clearly it's the players not willing to adjust to a system, 4 managers now some of these same players have been there for and the managers always change from their systems to suit the 'moments football' United players love to play. Blaming Ruben is simply not going to help him or the club. How did Tim Sherwood do at Spurs? I remember him giving us some funny memories when he was at breaking point at the end of his matches. Every pundit here can have an opinion but Ruben will do better than anyone on that panel. Its easy to criticise while sat in a studio or at home.
He’s the acerbic, Rottweiler element seemingly required for modern day punditry panel-work I presume. His job is create the sensational interest then offset by the more conservative members of the panel, i.e. they’re chosen for these specific traits. Most viewers won’t be Man United fans so he, Craig Burley, Chris Sutton, Graham Souness et al will get away with it.....
Tim Sherwood, it’s disingenuous to claim that all you’ve seen since Amorim took charge of Man United is a counter-attacking side reliant on pace. Under Amorim, Man United have clearly become a more possession-oriented team, demonstrating dominance on the ball. If you can’t recognize this shift, it’s no wonder you struggled to make a mark in management.
What are Tim Sherwood's credentials as a coach? The bloke was a complete failure. Anything he has to say about coaching just be thrown into the garbage can. He knows nothing about coaching. Anyone can talk and have an opinion. Give him a League One club and let's see him take them to the Premiership. Then we can listen.
Arsenal fan here, but you need to go backwards to go forwards. When we had Emery we finished 5th. With Arteta we went to 10th place. Now we are 2nd. So debating this is pointless, he just started
I’m a Villa fan and we was 17th with Gerrard and then Emery replaced him and took us to 5th. The next season Villa under Emery got us to 4th and took us to the Champions League. It just shows how important having patience is.
@@A0121EP All good, but the Utd players are a special breed. Garnacho for example already has his signature celebration. The kit Bruno is wearing is surely being bought by enthusiastic fans, and the likes of Mainoo, Hojlund, Zirkzee will get mobbed by adoring fans if they venture in public in Mongolia, Guatemala or New Zealand so it's understandable that they take things easy on the training pitch and on match day?
People already blaming amorim but how can you. He's been in 4 and half weeks He's had to come mid season with 2/3 matches a week to implement a new system and style. (He asked to come in the summer they said no) For the first time in a long time you can see a style and a formation. We are Controlling large portions of the matches 60%+ possession Which is incredible for minimal training and 2/3 matches a week and only being in charge 4 and half weeks. To implement so much. We have no forward play ability Not a single goal scorer Lots of individual mistakes happen I can name on 1 hand the number of players that look like they want to play. The best thing that can happen right now is what's happened We are seeing united for what it is. If we went on a 5 game win streak you don't see the problems they are patched up. The problems are deeper than the manager. And the team is average at best. HE NEVER PROMISED ANYTHING. HE SAID IT WILL BE A TOUGH TIME.
Nobody should be blaming Amorim but nothing United have done has been 'incredible', United having a bunch of (pretty harmless) possession isn't particularly impressive, it could be a step in the right direction but the team top of the league don't even regularly dominate the ball.
Imagine Tim with is horrible and terrible records as a coach at Spurs he's criticising one of the finest young managers in the world with outstanding records at Sporting
That first pundit is delusional. The manager can't play for the players. These players are fraudsters. Not Premier League quility, they were out worked, out paced, out skilled by Wolves. Plus this new manager took over at 14th on the league. What ever happens this season, including relegation is not on him, it's on the players.
Tim said he can't see anything. Can you guys take a look at the stats since Amorim took over. We have more control in the games and we keep fighting till the end. Amorim is working on the team gradually, I can see some improvement in controlling the game, the next would be to work on set pieces, then attacking and once he is done, man utd would be unstoppable. Some players would need to go for all this to happen. But he would need time. I am 100% behind Amorim.
Rashford, Casemiro, Mount, Antony, that’s nearly £1 million a week in wages … and they are; don’t feel like it, hopeless, injured or dropped. Not many businesses can continue to operate making those kind of mistakes.
Wages aren't a problem for Man United, they make tonnes more than they pay. Would you rather the money instead go to the Glazers who just get money from sitting on their bottoms? I will always be for the players in terms of money
@ 25% of staff made redundant, £40,000 cut to a charity involving ex players, Xmas parties cancelled, concession prices gone, if money is no problem then who are you supporting? Not Manchester and the club.
It's surprising to note that despite his extensive experience as a football pundit, spanning longer than I've been alive, Mr. Sherwood still seems to be misfocusing his analysis. A closer examination of Manchester United's performances this season reveals that, with the exception of the Liverpool game, all the games they lost, they emerged victorious in the match stats . . Any team that wins the match stats, but then losers the game, suggest that team’s problem, is that they couldn’t put the ball in the back of the net.
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Goalscoring has been a United problem for season after season. Rashford did it one season and thats it. We used to have Cole Yorke Sheringham Ronaldo Tevez Rooney, RVN, Giggs, Beckham, Scholes, Zlatan, Cantona....along history of goalscoringm now we have some 2nd rate performers who couldnt score in a Thai brothel.
Ooh he had plenty of time, he came in the summer, had a lot of time plus pre season. With Amorim every game counts, these no pre season and he has a worse crop of players. If anything ETH really set us back with his arrogance and poor transfer choices
different system with players who are able to play that system. with armorim's system its all about intensity, always applying pressure, super aggresive playstyle and is really strict about disipline. this squad is filled w/ those w/ weak mentality compared to the players amorin had at sporting, lack disipline and who are nowhere close to being fast enough for 3-4-2-1
Tim sherwood... famously a great manager 😂 The media shouldn't have the ability to sack managers just because they don't like how they respond during press conferences.. yet they do...😂
Sherwood. Clueless.. Amorim did not have any time to work with players since his arrival. Even set pieces are practiced before actual games, because every 3-4 days they have to play a new game. How can he improve average players with no proper training time.
I think sherwood clearly hasnt watched any united games. If anything, we are showing more patterns of play. We have more xg in many of the games. The problem is the players are crap with low effort and cant finish. Lets not forget tenhag's 20 shots against consistently with no play style and a gaping hole in midfield.
Ten Hag won because he adapted to the players style not that they were terrific, bunch of lazy power driven players they want coaches to play their style. We know these things and Amorim a coach with high intelligence figured out this horrific side of our players, they wants to pressurise him to carve in. He outsmarted them long ago. These journalists are jokers
They keep a shape, and play defense pretty well, which I couldn’t say at any point the last year. They have the same issues with players. No strikers of note, no legs or physicality in the midfield, and no captain or character to talk about.
He wasn’t world class. At least with Ruben we are not as open. The goals we are conceding are from stupid errors and set pieces. With ETH it was just kamikaze football leaving spaces everywhere. It was ridiculous. Not to mention he would persist with the likes of rashford week after week when they weren’t playing well and we can’t forget the utter amount of garbage transfers he brought in. He’s definitely not a terrible manager. But he had to go
Congratulations for Sky panelists for trotting out the same cliches for 3 months now. Massive respect. 14th in the league. At the end of the day it’s about winning football matches for this football club. Outstanding insight.
Tim Sherwood saying United are worse under Amorim is laughable. Amorim walked into a disaster no squad balance, no discipline, no direction. Fixing that takes time, something Sherwood clearly doesn’t understand. Coming from a manager whose career was built on failure and excuses, his opinion means nothing. Sherwood couldn’t build a team if his life depended on it, so he’s the last person who should be judging anyone. Stick to the pundit chair, Tim it’s the only place where your failures don’t matter.
'Ripped apart by Wolves'. Are you kidding me!? What's with this media crusade against United? You can tell that none of these pundits have even watched United's recent games and have just looked at the scoreline. Morons.
Tim Sherwood said a few weeks ago that Forest will still be more concerned with avoiding relegation than staying in the top 6. I wonder sometimes if he knows anything at all about football.
Sherwood normally is fair but I had to bounce out of this video after 90 seconds as they have clearly told him to stick it on Amorim. There is huge context behind why the results are bad. Sherwood knows this but chooses to ignore it.
If Manchester United have gotten worse in such a short space of time, that’s nothing to do with the Manager it’s clearly the players. Just like a “new manager bounce” isn’t actually to do with the manager, it’s the players reacting to a new face which eventually fades away. The players are unable to take any accountability with the worst one being Rashford
I mean that's definitely not true...at all. Tactics and formations are an absolutely enormous part of the game and certain players clearly won't fit in certain systems no matter how much effort they put in. Amorim seems like a really talented manager but his formation needs specific players and Utd clearly don't have those players for it right now regardless of how untalented they are or how little effort they put in. They need a complete rebuild.
United over the last decade... Moyes is the problem sack him Van Gaal is the problem sack him Mourinho is the problem sack him Solskjaer is the problem sack him Ten Haag is the problem sack him. Amorim new manager same sack him? Just goes to show it was never the manager, keep sacking managers don't work it just made things worse Stupid incompetent owners and hierarchy don't know what they doing.
They don't give managers time they keep sacking them, back to square one every time, different manager different style, players don't know if they're coming or going 🙄 they don't know how to run a club. They not even listened to Sir Alex. Totally incompetent make you sick 🤮
The same people who said give him time are on bis back straight away. Tim Sherwood couldn't kick snow off a rope the sooner hes gone from Sky the better hes a dope. I doubt hes watched every game united have played like us fans so he should shut his mouth
Amorims job is to restructure the club the culture and the academy not win games immediately he’s had no time for training or coaching he was very very clear about what he is doing
They criticized Ten Hag for going for small trophies while not incorporating an identity for the long term, now they are criticizing Amorim for focusing on giving them an identity over going for pragmatic short term victories. The British media is truly pathetic.
I think focusing on one person or issue is the first mistake. The club appears to have so many problems its not just down to one. 1. I dont believe this is Amorins time. 2. Most of the players are overated and overpaid. 3. Bruno is not a captain but no one else is either. 4. Because the players pay and contracts swing in their favour they dont care either way. 5. The owners simply havent restructed the club for the modern challanges. 6. Grounds are falling apart. 7. The culture in the club is toxic 8. There never appears to be a real bond with any of the players. 9. Having a previous manager win two cups and still getting sacked is definitely a problem. 10. When this club was successful it was only them and Chelsea who could really spend money so kinda scewed their dominance in that sense. Clubs are now much better challangers with or without money. 11. Outside influences i.e. ex players and managers affect the way things are done and how players respond. 12. The club financially is running out of wiggle room. I dont see Amorin taking this club back to the heights they were once at even if hes allowed to spend because its more than just winning a few games to become a massive club again. To consistently achieve greatness everything has to be spot on.
Stuck on the same criticism from ETH time. You can’t see patterns and you coached a premier league team? Utd’s results have been terrible, but don’t start a write off of the manager before he has had a chance.
@@arsenalogist4285 hahahahah!!! ETH adapted to their so-called strengths and they threw him under the bus. They are just lazy players. A player is supposed to be versatile. They failed OGS, VAN GAAL, MOURINHO AND RUBEN
A lot of people here in the comments thinks keeping possession of the football is "controlling" a game. A team can control a game without possession. Teams are smart enough to let you have possession in certain areas of the pitch or certain players have the ball. Those that are claiming Utd have had more possession....so what? What meaningful things have they done with the possession of the ball
My God! Where do Sky get these second rate pundits from? Most of them either don’t understand football or they are spouting this rubbish to get clicks from ManU haters. Many of the players don’t have the mentality and/or quality to play for a big team. No manager in the world would be able to get a decent tune out of this lot. Just ask Mourinho, van Gaal, ten Hag to name but 3!
Rúben Amorim’s Manchester United win ratios after the first 11 games: 1. Erik ten Hag: 7 wins from 11 games = 63.6% 2. Ole Gunnar Solskjær: 6 wins from 11 games = 54.5% 3. Rúben Amorim: 4 wins from 11 games = 36.36%
It’s always been about the players, overhyped,overpaid and no motivation or desire. That’s what you get under a Glazer ownership. It’s the Glazers you pundits should be talking about.
Onana meeds replacing, decent enough keeper but doesn't inspire confidence in the defense. As a Leicester fan ill always have a love for Kasper Schmeichel but his dad was an absolute monster , strojer fets in his way he'd jist go through them to get the ball 😂😂 If he can ve convinced to come I'd say look at Jan Oblak or someone similar.
The problem is that when a coach is overhyped, as the media and everyone else did with Amorim, expectations are high and when they are not met it leads to disappointment. Don't get me wrong, Amorim is not a bad coach, but those who expected him to come in and suddenly start winning every game are delusional. To be honest, I would have kept Van Nistelrooy until the end of this season and then decided whether to bring Amorim or not, depending on how good the results had been under him.
They have shown a more distinctive style of play. Better possession and teams are not creating as many chances. Granted the results should be better however I do see better patterns.
I have no clue why United got rid of Ten Hag. The squad are players that they bought to allow ETH to build. There’s nothing wrong with the squad, everyone said they were fine before, just the system wasn’t there. What’s concerning for me is Amorim openly said he would be happy to be fired if the club paid his termination fee, that’s shocking, basically a loser mentality.
Sherwood is such a hack, you can't improve garbage. The decent players there have actually shown improvement; Amad, Mazraoui, de Ligt. The problem at that United is that there are such a bunch of terrible players that have been stacked up season upon season. We need a proper clear out, where we as a club are not rewarding poor performances with record breaking wages.
When people say he needs more time , I don’t know what they mean . He has one of the best groups of players , they lost the last five games !! If you cannot win a game then you can’t handle it.
You man united fans are a joke instead of blaming the managers 24/7 how about take a minute to think about the fact you have a squad that doesn’t want to put any effort in no point looking for good managers when you have a poor squad
What qualifies Tim Sherwood to be a pundit? What were his achievements as a coach? Most of these networks would have a rethink if we (the targeted audience) can quench or replace our hunger for "who said what?" with "objective stats". It's a fact that MU have lost matches since Amorin's appointment but the team's key performance indicators (possession, shots on target, final third entries, etc.,) have been on the rise (opta, and others). Any seed (when planted) will take some time to grow... It's too early to draw conclusions on Amorin. Manchester United faithfuls can see a positive style of play (and better days ahead), and can also see the now familiar attempt by the same pundits who have always led the clamour for coach/manager replacement. Recent results have been disappointing but the club/team is improving and will continue to do so under Amorin.
I think Tim has a point. Sure he absolutely needs time but we shouldn’t be getting absolutely smashed, like there should be some kind of visible cohesion
What’s embarrassing is that people believed that this guy who managed in a Micky mouse league in Portugal was going to be successful in the best league in the world facing teams that would win the Portuguese league at a canter,hes out of his depth and I can see him not being there for the start of next season
Tim sharewood is clueless! Has he seen any of the matches. Possession is up, shots against are down, XG is up. It’s a matter of time for United to turn the corner. These guys really need to watch the games before passing judgement
Bro do they have nothing better to talk about? Leave the guy alone. It's been what, 6 weeks? You gotta go backwards to go forwards. It takes time, you gotta remeember this isn't his team. He needs both January and Summer transfer windows to sell and buy players.
It was always going to be this way, and needs to be. The individuals Tim is referring to likely can’t be improved, that’s the point. The players aren’t good enough. I’ve got to say, Tim Sherwood is a man who I can’t agree with more often than not. Nothing that Amorim has said since the get go has been wrong, Ralf Rangnick had it spot on and it’s still the case.
The media all said the manager will need time but they are so quick to start judging the manager
Right now, are they better or worse?
@@akamiguelsanchez9985worse so they’re right to say what they’re saying maybe he isn’t as cut out for the job as people think
They need the milk the story.
All this English media empty mouth
@@okay4403🤣🤣
Ask Sherwood who has achieved nothing with his managerial career…
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Nothing
He brought Kane through tbf.
Sherwood is just full of himself and speaks rubbish.
And he is worse as a pundit. Chop.
This is why Sherwood is a pundit and no longer a manager. Clueless. It’s been 10 games. Relax
Lol 😆 Why are people acting like 10 games is not sufficient enough to judge a manager? Amorim has been atrocious 🤣
10 games in 6 weeks shows he's not really had any time to coach the players. 4 wins, 1 draw & 5 loses in all comps, not great but it's not dreadful
Mate that’s the definition of dreadful
@@barneybernado1998 poor yes, but not dreadful. How can a 40% win rate be classed as dreadful? Or is this just internet hyperbole?
@@Shadow-King40% wr across the course of a season is 45 points mate, that would've been 15th last year
I am an Arsenal fan, but you must first go backwards in order to get forward. When Emery was with us, we finished fifth. With Arteta, we finished tenth. Now we are second. So discussing this is meaningless; he only begun.
Emery should been given time..he i$ better than arteta
@Ellie-MayHuff 10th, which year was that.
10th, which season was that
Forest are second.
10th😂 you must be a Chelsea fan who recently joined the arsenal fan base
Pundits making themselves look stupid here. Clearly it's the players not willing to adjust to a system, 4 managers now some of these same players have been there for and the managers always change from their systems to suit the 'moments football' United players love to play. Blaming Ruben is simply not going to help him or the club. How did Tim Sherwood do at Spurs? I remember him giving us some funny memories when he was at breaking point at the end of his matches. Every pundit here can have an opinion but Ruben will do better than anyone on that panel. Its easy to criticise while sat in a studio or at home.
Why is Tim Sherwood even on the panel him and Merson talk absolute bollocks.
He’s the acerbic, Rottweiler element seemingly required for modern day punditry panel-work I presume. His job is create the sensational interest then offset by the more conservative members of the panel, i.e. they’re chosen for these specific traits. Most viewers won’t be Man United fans so he, Craig Burley, Chris Sutton, Graham Souness et al will get away with it.....
They all do not one of them talk proper punditry all they do is state the obvious robbing a living all of them
Well payed for saying rubbish 🤙😲🤣
I suspect he's right about Fernandez though
Both have a sniff before the show comes on talking bollocs
Tim Sherwood, it’s disingenuous to claim that all you’ve seen since Amorim took charge of Man United is a counter-attacking side reliant on pace. Under Amorim, Man United have clearly become a more possession-oriented team, demonstrating dominance on the ball. If you can’t recognize this shift, it’s no wonder you struggled to make a mark in management.
What are Tim Sherwood's credentials as a coach? The bloke was a complete failure. Anything he has to say about coaching just be thrown into the garbage can. He knows nothing about coaching. Anyone can talk and have an opinion. Give him a League One club and let's see him take them to the Premiership. Then we can listen.
Majority of that possession is in their own half……
I thought the exact same...
Well said
Unfortunately we're still losing
Arsenal fan here, but you need to go backwards to go forwards. When we had Emery we finished 5th. With Arteta we went to 10th place. Now we are 2nd. So debating this is pointless, he just started
i agree, but Arsenal were 12th when Emery was sacked and we finished 8th that season
They've been going backwards for awhile now. At what pt. do u start going "forward"?!
Spot on, it's just a case of how far backwards these owners are prepared to go
I’m a Villa fan and we was 17th with Gerrard and then Emery replaced him and took us to 5th. The next season Villa under Emery got us to 4th and took us to the Champions League. It just shows how important having patience is.
@@A0121EP All good, but the Utd players are a special breed. Garnacho for example already has his signature celebration. The kit Bruno is wearing is surely being bought by enthusiastic fans, and the likes of Mainoo, Hojlund, Zirkzee will get mobbed by adoring fans if they venture in public in Mongolia, Guatemala or New Zealand so it's understandable that they take things easy on the training pitch and on match day?
These shows will have more credibility if you get Sir Alex, Wenger, Pep, Klopp managers who really won things n built teams to provide their thoughts
Imagine if these names u called are together,wow
Jesus that would be incredible
These pundits don't understand football 😂😂
It easy talk good job in studio haha
they are just a sorry lot ...hypocrites I suppose
Ex football players😂😂😂
People already blaming amorim but how can you.
He's been in 4 and half weeks
He's had to come mid season with 2/3 matches a week to implement a new system and style. (He asked to come in the summer they said no)
For the first time in a long time you can see a style and a formation.
We are Controlling large portions of the matches 60%+ possession
Which is incredible for minimal training and 2/3 matches a week and only being in charge 4 and half weeks. To implement so much.
We have no
forward play ability
Not a single goal scorer
Lots of individual mistakes happen
I can name on 1 hand the number of players that look like they want to play.
The best thing that can happen right now is what's happened We are seeing united for what it is.
If we went on a 5 game win streak you don't see the problems they are patched up.
The problems are deeper than the manager.
And the team is average at best.
HE NEVER PROMISED ANYTHING. HE SAID IT WILL BE A TOUGH TIME.
Nobody should be blaming Amorim but nothing United have done has been 'incredible', United having a bunch of (pretty harmless) possession isn't particularly impressive, it could be a step in the right direction but the team top of the league don't even regularly dominate the ball.
Well said
@benzo9059 united has an average team at best.
Rashford will see him off
Yes. It'll get worse before it gets better.
It's gladly been getting worse hasn't it ?
@MartinDavies-u8b depends on one's perspective. Great for the media 👏
Nope, not with these players, Bruno, Rashford, Dalot and many has to go.
Imagine Tim with is horrible and terrible records as a coach at Spurs he's criticising one of the finest young managers in the world with outstanding records at Sporting
its laughable.Sherwood is a clown
Yet he's speaking facts here
That first pundit is delusional. The manager can't play for the players. These players are fraudsters. Not Premier League quility, they were out worked, out paced, out skilled by Wolves. Plus this new manager took over at 14th on the league. What ever happens this season, including relegation is not on him, it's on the players.
Tim said he can't see anything. Can you guys take a look at the stats since Amorim took over. We have more control in the games and we keep fighting till the end.
Amorim is working on the team gradually, I can see some improvement in controlling the game, the next would be to work on set pieces, then attacking and once he is done, man utd would be unstoppable.
Some players would need to go for all this to happen. But he would need time.
I am 100% behind Amorim.
Jesus you’re beyond faithful
That's right...and Tottaly true!!!
by the time he is done with all that - y'all will be relegated
Spot on mate
The last 3 matches, United didn't score a single goal. What control are you talking about.
Rashford, Casemiro, Mount, Antony, that’s nearly £1 million a week in wages … and they are; don’t feel like it, hopeless, injured or dropped. Not many businesses can continue to operate making those kind of mistakes.
And Bruno the most overrated overhyped overpaid player at United add Shaw Maguire Eriksen
@@richyclubsport5155bruno is best midfielder in the league* united fans
Wages aren't a problem for Man United, they make tonnes more than they pay. Would you rather the money instead go to the Glazers who just get money from sitting on their bottoms? I will always be for the players in terms of money
@ 25% of staff made redundant, £40,000 cut to a charity involving ex players, Xmas parties cancelled, concession prices gone, if money is no problem then who are you supporting? Not Manchester and the club.
@@raymondqiu8202Wages are a huge problem
It's surprising to note that despite his extensive experience as a football pundit, spanning longer than I've been alive, Mr. Sherwood still seems to be misfocusing his analysis. A closer examination of Manchester United's performances this season reveals that, with the exception of the Liverpool game, all the games they lost, they emerged victorious in the match stats . . Any team that wins the match stats, but then losers the game, suggest that team’s problem, is that they couldn’t put the ball in the back of the net.
Goalscoring has been a United problem for season after season. Rashford did it one season and thats it. We used to have Cole Yorke Sheringham Ronaldo Tevez Rooney, RVN, Giggs, Beckham, Scholes, Zlatan, Cantona....along history of goalscoringm now we have some 2nd rate performers who couldnt score in a Thai brothel.
They begged for interviews with Amorim, now they are back to destroy him
nothing new, there
What’s absolutely unforgivable is that Tim Sherwood was a premier league manager, not a good one but still…
These guys forget ETH got a trophy and finished 3rd in his first season
He didn’t get time
Yes he finished 3rd with a solid team that Ole left him. And then Ten Hag added more players to the deadwood and now we’re here 😊
Why are you still shilling for ETH
Ooh he had plenty of time, he came in the summer, had a lot of time plus pre season. With Amorim every game counts, these no pre season and he has a worse crop of players. If anything ETH really set us back with his arrogance and poor transfer choices
different system with players who are able to play that system. with armorim's system its all about intensity, always applying pressure, super aggresive playstyle and is really strict about disipline. this squad is filled w/ those w/ weak mentality compared to the players amorin had at sporting, lack disipline and who are nowhere close to being fast enough for 3-4-2-1
10 hag was an embarrassment. His results were shocking.
Tim sherwood... famously a great manager 😂 The media shouldn't have the ability to sack managers just because they don't like how they respond during press conferences.. yet they do...😂
It only happens with teams that eat the press, drink the press. If fans and owners forgot about pundits it would have been easier along the years.
So Sherwood wants Amorim to do what ten Hag did. That turned out well. 😂
yes, it s a dance and they think they are maestros
Sherwood. Clueless.. Amorim did not have any time to work with players since his arrival. Even set pieces are practiced before actual games, because every 3-4 days they have to play a new game. How can he improve average players with no proper training time.
Even with 10000 hours these players can’t improve. They are crap and need to be sold
Hahahaha really?? He’s not had enough time to beat Wolves 😂
I think sherwood clearly hasnt watched any united games. If anything, we are showing more patterns of play. We have more xg in many of the games. The problem is the players are crap with low effort and cant finish. Lets not forget tenhag's 20 shots against consistently with no play style and a gaping hole in midfield.
ETH won 2 trophies and got to finals with this bunch of garbage.
Meaning?
Meaning he still won two Trophies and got paid off 15mill to go home and watch this Joke continue
he's laughing somewhere Hard
He bought the garbage.
Guy why are we blaming 10hag? We all knw united managers never get 1st choice players 😢
Ten Hag won because he adapted to the players style not that they were terrific, bunch of lazy power driven players they want coaches to play their style. We know these things and Amorim a coach with high intelligence figured out this horrific side of our players, they wants to pressurise him to carve in. He outsmarted them long ago. These journalists are jokers
They keep a shape, and play defense pretty well, which I couldn’t say at any point the last year. They have the same issues with players. No strikers of note, no legs or physicality in the midfield, and no captain or character to talk about.
I have been saying this that Eric he's a world class manager and united issue isn't about manager but players and the owners.
He wasn’t world class. At least with Ruben we are not as open. The goals we are conceding are from stupid errors and set pieces. With ETH it was just kamikaze football leaving spaces everywhere. It was ridiculous. Not to mention he would persist with the likes of rashford week after week when they weren’t playing well and we can’t forget the utter amount of garbage transfers he brought in. He’s definitely not a terrible manager. But he had to go
@@Stm1054and free falling towards relegation now under Ruben
@@richyclubsport5155ETH left the team in 13 and they are currently in 14 so there is no free fall there.
LVG warned him
Ten hag had plenty of time to build a good team and he didn't, he had the backing of the club and only brought rubbish players
Liverpool fan here, but seriously guys…the guy just arrived! He’s just arrived
Congratulations for Sky panelists for trotting out the same cliches for 3 months now. Massive respect. 14th in the league. At the end of the day it’s about winning football matches for this football club. Outstanding insight.
Tim Sherwood saying United are worse under Amorim is laughable. Amorim walked into a disaster no squad balance, no discipline, no direction. Fixing that takes time, something Sherwood clearly doesn’t understand.
Coming from a manager whose career was built on failure and excuses, his opinion means nothing. Sherwood couldn’t build a team if his life depended on it, so he’s the last person who should be judging anyone. Stick to the pundit chair, Tim it’s the only place where your failures don’t matter.
It has always been like that with United with or without Amorim
United is controlling more possession. Had 50 % possession away to City.
Leicester managed 63% in the second half today against city and that's Leicester
Shameless using City to make a statement this season 😂
Amorim has been poor without that derby win let's be real United would have been in the dumps...
Another informative unbiased Man Utd review by sky
'Ripped apart by Wolves'. Are you kidding me!? What's with this media crusade against United? You can tell that none of these pundits have even watched United's recent games and have just looked at the scoreline. Morons.
Tim Sherwood said a few weeks ago that Forest will still be more concerned with avoiding relegation than staying in the top 6. I wonder sometimes if he knows anything at all about football.
Anyone who has captained a side to a Premier league title knows football.
Sherwood normally is fair but I had to bounce out of this video after 90 seconds as they have clearly told him to stick it on Amorim. There is huge context behind why the results are bad. Sherwood knows this but chooses to ignore it.
I suppose asking a man who made not one but two separate teams worse is kind of a qualification to discuss the subject
What's the point of beating Spurs in the Carabao Cup Quarter Final where we'd have absolutely NO chance against Liverpool over 2 legs in the Semis?
If Manchester United have gotten worse in such a short space of time, that’s nothing to do with the Manager it’s clearly the players. Just like a “new manager bounce” isn’t actually to do with the manager, it’s the players reacting to a new face which eventually fades away. The players are unable to take any accountability with the worst one being Rashford
Formations are irrelevant. It comes down to talent and effort.
I mean that's definitely not true...at all. Tactics and formations are an absolutely enormous part of the game and certain players clearly won't fit in certain systems no matter how much effort they put in. Amorim seems like a really talented manager but his formation needs specific players and Utd clearly don't have those players for it right now regardless of how untalented they are or how little effort they put in. They need a complete rebuild.
A few weeks ago Sherwood was signing Ruben Amorim's praise, now he's signing a different tune. What an idiot!
United over the last decade...
Moyes is the problem sack him
Van Gaal is the problem sack him
Mourinho is the problem sack him
Solskjaer is the problem sack him
Ten Haag is the problem sack him.
Amorim new manager same sack him?
Just goes to show it was never the manager, keep sacking managers don't work it just made things worse Stupid incompetent owners and hierarchy don't know what they doing.
Totally. bad players being paid a fortune
They don't give managers time they keep sacking them, back to square one every time, different manager different style, players don't know if they're coming or going 🙄 they don't know how to run a club. They not even listened to Sir Alex. Totally incompetent make you sick 🤮
It’s not the managers that suck, it’s the players 🥶
Stop complaining. Give the manager time to get things together before all this scrutiny.
They quick to judge Amorim when they've literally said he needs more time, these people are bunch of chops honestly. Opinion without accountability.
The team is playing better we just don't have goal scorers
So new strikers and new goal keeeper and replace masrauii. I believe they Can be top tier
Sherwood should not be allowed anywhere near a microphone. What a low voltage individual!
The same people who said give him time are on bis back straight away. Tim Sherwood couldn't kick snow off a rope the sooner hes gone from Sky the better hes a dope. I doubt hes watched every game united have played like us fans so he should shut his mouth
Amorims job is to restructure the club the culture and the academy not win games immediately he’s had no time for training or coaching he was very very clear about what he is doing
Solution is an overhaul, bring in the youth squad like Ferguson did and build
Team around them, we don’t need new players.
They criticized Ten Hag for going for small trophies while not incorporating an identity for the long term, now they are criticizing Amorim for focusing on giving them an identity over going for pragmatic short term victories.
The British media is truly pathetic.
I think focusing on one person or issue is the first mistake. The club appears to have so many problems its not just down to one.
1. I dont believe this is Amorins time.
2. Most of the players are overated and overpaid.
3. Bruno is not a captain but no one else is either.
4. Because the players pay and contracts swing in their favour they dont care either way.
5. The owners simply havent restructed the club for the modern challanges.
6. Grounds are falling apart.
7. The culture in the club is toxic
8. There never appears to be a real bond with any of the players.
9. Having a previous manager win two cups and still getting sacked is definitely a problem.
10. When this club was successful it was only them and Chelsea who could really spend money so kinda scewed their dominance in that sense. Clubs are now much better challangers with or without money.
11. Outside influences i.e. ex players and managers affect the way things are done and how players respond.
12. The club financially is running out of wiggle room.
I dont see Amorin taking this club back to the heights they were once at even if hes allowed to spend because its more than just winning a few games to become a massive club again. To consistently achieve greatness everything has to be spot on.
There's a reason why Tim sherwood never made it as a manager.
Bring in youngsters
He realized the prem is not as easy as he thought
What kinda question is this sky talking rubbish again
I think they should bring ETH back
Why would you let the best goalkeeper in the premier league leave ?
Golden glove winner
He was mistake prone like our current keeper. The only solid keepers we've had was Peter and Edwin. Safe hands with excellent communication.
Stuck on the same criticism from ETH time. You can’t see patterns and you coached a premier league team? Utd’s results have been terrible, but don’t start a write off of the manager before he has had a chance.
Why ask Sherwood who knows nothing? You guys talk too much. The English Media will hype an average English player but vilify a hardworking coach.
Hardworking coach whose not adapting to his players?
@@arsenalogist4285 hahahahah!!! ETH adapted to their so-called strengths and they threw him under the bus. They are just lazy players. A player is supposed to be versatile. They failed OGS, VAN GAAL, MOURINHO AND RUBEN
Let's be honest the players are very poor. They need so many new players in so many places.
Amorim is AVB 2.0
A lot of people here in the comments thinks keeping possession of the football is "controlling" a game. A team can control a game without possession. Teams are smart enough to let you have possession in certain areas of the pitch or certain players have the ball. Those that are claiming Utd have had more possession....so what? What meaningful things have they done with the possession of the ball
For the first time in about 5 years, I can see an idea in how we play rather than moments
An idea on how to play in the championship
He didn’t want to start until end of season so he had more time training but Utd wanted him now
My God! Where do Sky get these second rate pundits from? Most of them either don’t understand football or they are spouting this rubbish to get clicks from ManU haters. Many of the players don’t have the mentality and/or quality to play for a big team. No manager in the world would be able to get a decent tune out of this lot. Just ask Mourinho, van Gaal, ten Hag to name but 3!
It's better to be worse than to have a descent performance everytime,,, this will unfold the exact problem and will be easy to figure out the solution
Players have downed tools because they are either out off contract or know they will be sold at the end off the season. Bruno wants out.
Rúben Amorim’s Manchester United win ratios after the first 11 games:
1. Erik ten Hag: 7 wins from 11 games
= 63.6%
2. Ole Gunnar Solskjær: 6 wins from 11 games = 54.5%
3. Rúben Amorim: 4 wins from 11 games = 36.36%
Spare a thought for my boy Craig 🙏🏻 yardball specialist
Tim Sherwood’s on point. Can’t expect players to only play one way, Amorim needs to communicate what’s required.
proof that its not only Sherwood who is a complete clown
It’s always been about the players, overhyped,overpaid and no motivation or desire. That’s what you get under a Glazer ownership. It’s the Glazers you pundits should be talking about.
Onana meeds replacing, decent enough keeper but doesn't inspire confidence in the defense.
As a Leicester fan ill always have a love for Kasper Schmeichel but his dad was an absolute monster , strojer fets in his way he'd jist go through them to get the ball 😂😂
If he can ve convinced to come I'd say look at Jan Oblak or someone similar.
i was confident on amorim before and now tim has made me sure that he'll be incredible for utd
As a Man United fan I can see a the idea he talk bout ….I’m glad this happened earlier rather than later …..Now We/The Club see where it needs fix
Neither the players or even Amorim care about the losses. They’re all so overpaid nothing matters.
Sherwood commenting so much and made it sound like its so easy to do within a short span of time. Absolutely mind blowing.
The problem is that when a coach is overhyped, as the media and everyone else did with Amorim, expectations are high and when they are not met it leads to disappointment.
Don't get me wrong, Amorim is not a bad coach, but those who expected him to come in and suddenly start winning every game are delusional.
To be honest, I would have kept Van Nistelrooy until the end of this season and then decided whether to bring Amorim or not, depending on how good the results had been under him.
They have shown a more distinctive style of play. Better possession and teams are not creating as many chances. Granted the results should be better however I do see better patterns.
I have no clue why United got rid of Ten Hag. The squad are players that they bought to allow ETH to build. There’s nothing wrong with the squad, everyone said they were fine before, just the system wasn’t there. What’s concerning for me is Amorim openly said he would be happy to be fired if the club paid his termination fee, that’s shocking, basically a loser mentality.
Sherwood is such a hack, you can't improve garbage. The decent players there have actually shown improvement; Amad, Mazraoui, de Ligt. The problem at that United is that there are such a bunch of terrible players that have been stacked up season upon season. We need a proper clear out, where we as a club are not rewarding poor performances with record breaking wages.
They need to give him chance after buying some players in January transfer window 2025.
The problem is not the manager, the team as a whole gat to be rebuilt it won't be a surprise that they could be relegated this season or the next
A fine balanced panel you have there, Sky Sports.
When people say he needs more time , I don’t know what they mean .
He has one of the best groups of players , they lost the last five games !! If you cannot win a game then you can’t handle it.
We have been worse since he joined tho we were really bad means it was harder to get worse but he managed
You man united fans are a joke instead of blaming the managers 24/7 how about take a minute to think about the fact you have a squad that doesn’t want to put any effort in no point looking for good managers when you have a poor squad
What qualifies Tim Sherwood to be a pundit? What were his achievements as a coach? Most of these networks would have a rethink if we (the targeted audience) can quench or replace our hunger for "who said what?" with "objective stats". It's a fact that MU have lost matches since Amorin's appointment but the team's key performance indicators (possession, shots on target, final third entries, etc.,) have been on the rise (opta, and others). Any seed (when planted) will take some time to grow... It's too early to draw conclusions on Amorin. Manchester United faithfuls can see a positive style of play (and better days ahead), and can also see the now familiar attempt by the same pundits who have always led the clamour for coach/manager replacement. Recent results have been disappointing but the club/team is improving and will continue to do so under Amorin.
I think Tim has a point. Sure he absolutely needs time but we shouldn’t be getting absolutely smashed, like there should be some kind of visible cohesion
What’s embarrassing is that people believed that this guy who managed in a Micky mouse league in Portugal was going to be successful in the best league in the world facing teams that would win the Portuguese league at a canter,hes out of his depth and I can see him not being there for the start of next season
arsenal fun actually u just dont apreciate watch united matches and watch sporting matches and speak honestly before u type anything
Man's been there 4 weeks. So, Sherwood talking unbelievable crap.
Uniteds philosophy new manager, look to transfer window
these pundits got no clue, bunch o prats
Amorim has exposed the mess. He needs time. He’s had no time on the training ground
Tim sharewood is clueless! Has he seen any of the matches. Possession is up, shots against are down, XG is up. It’s a matter of time for United to turn the corner. These guys really need to watch the games before passing judgement
These so-called pundit fools don't have a clue about football
Bro do they have nothing better to talk about? Leave the guy alone. It's been what, 6 weeks? You gotta go backwards to go forwards. It takes time, you gotta remeember this isn't his team. He needs both January and Summer transfer windows to sell and buy players.
Everyone was saying the players were fine, but there was no system under ETH. Can’t be hypocritical now.
It was always going to be this way, and needs to be. The individuals Tim is referring to likely can’t be improved, that’s the point. The players aren’t good enough. I’ve got to say, Tim Sherwood is a man who I can’t agree with more often than not. Nothing that Amorim has said since the get go has been wrong, Ralf Rangnick had it spot on and it’s still the case.
I love that Sky bring experts in failure. Tim knows failure 👌🏽