Mom took me to Disneyland when it was new. Been back 20 some times through the years. Love that place. I'm a big rail fan, but also enjoyed Mr Lincoln. Took my British wife there many years later. She was wowed!
Wait is the monorail shop on top of the locomotive shop? I have no idea why but I find that very entertaining. The train of the future and the train of the past both being serviced under the same roof. Fantastic.
Yup! The original locomotive shop was a small tin building for the locomotives only The cars sat outside. In the 60’s when they were building the monorail the shop needed to be up high and the trains needed to be inside as they couldn’t really be uncoupled. So... why not put the steam shops under the monorail shops!! And then the whole trains could be pulled inside and never uncoupled.
I want to tell you just what an incredible treat it was to be able to see some of the otherwise hidden from the public items ! The absolutely gorgeous private railcar of Walt Disney ! WOW ! Thank you for going through the arguous task of getting to get behind the scenes and into the inner workings of Walt's privately owned railroad ! Thank you again !
Last year while the railroad is shut down for the Star Wars construction, they had the Lilly Belle parked at the New Orleans Square. I was able to talk the engineer into letting me, my buddy and our two kids go inside it. It was a blast to get a private tour of this famous train.
Before I was born, My mom workred for Walt Disney, In the secretary pool, At WED Productions,In fact she accidentally hit him with a typerwriter carrage, My mom apollogized, quite alot until Walt stopped her and replied, " No. Not Mr. Disney, Walt! " He wanter everyone to address him by his first name, Ohh Wow!!
I used to love trains so much, now i’m into planes. I still have joy for when i see something spectacular. Supposed to be going to travel town with my dad here soon in Griffith Park, CA!
Yes, not boring at all, just stumbled onto this one as I watch many Disney biography's etc.. I never knew Walt liked to just drive the train & play so much. Thanks for the Video Toy Man!
I can't remember the circumstance, but I got to ride in the Lilly Belle around the Park once. I also rode the tender around the Park. I have to be one of Disneyland's biggest fans. My first visit was in December, 1959.
I was a volunteer at the Pine Creek Railroad in Farmingdale, NJ. Their first acquisition was Raritan River Sand Co. #10, a Baldwin built 3 foot gauge 0-4-0 saddle tank. That same engine is now Disneyland #4, the Ernest S. Marsh.They'll tell you it came from a lumber operation in New England, but that's not true. They probably say that for "romance" purposes, but I know for a fact it's the same engine. She even "went missing" on the way to Disney - for protection, she was shipped to California in a boxcar, and this resulted in her being accidentally routed to Chicago instead.
Thanks for your video. Came across it today and it brought back memories! At 3:18 you have a close up of the #2 tender. As a 28 year veteran cast member of the Sign Shop, I was given the opportunity to create the lettering on the side as a throwback to the original Disneyland Santa Fe R.R. Also a fellow cast member and myself did all the lettering and gold leaf on the Lilly Belle refurbishment project. I created all the interior ceiling panels from one photo graph that existed. What a great time and labor of love! Retired now as of June 2020.
Slight correction. The "Lilly Belle" was not Walt's private car. It's original name isn't even "Lilly Belle." This was originally part of the Retlaw 1 consist, number 106, and was called "Grand Canyon." It was just an observation car with similar seating to the other 5 Retlaw 1 coaches. When the coaches and combine were sold off, Disneyland retained the Grand Canyon and rebuilt it into the Lilly Belle.
That is great footage that not a lot of people don't get to see, but you do have one little thing wrong. Walt never got to see the Lilly Belle as it is now. Walt died in 1966 while the car #106 didn't become the "Lilly Belle" until 1975 when it was opened up to V.I.P.s and members of Club 33. Prior to 1975 it was known as the Grand Canyon and was on the Retlaw 1 Passenger Train.
They do offer a way to get a ride, and I have looked into that but as yet have never gotten to ride in the car. As of now they only run it on Fridays and first trip of the day is available for people who pay for a particular tour of the place. However next time we are in Disneyland going to try to figure out a way to get that Friday ride. I have seen where on Friday the car is left on the train throughout the rest of the day and certain people are allowed to ride it. But I think their members of the D 23 club or something like that
You are welcome!!! Have you seen any of out other disney shows? We have a series called "Walking With Walt". Sort of a remake of this show with LOTS of new stuff.
Here's a bit of back history about the railroad at Disneyland. At the beginning it had a corporate sponsor. AT&SF RY (Santa Fe). For many years' from the beginning to around the late sixties or early seventies they funded the operation. The first four locomotives are named for past presidents of the railroad the last being Ernest S Marsh whom I had the privilege of working for until his retirement and a great supporter of Walt Disney. As you know most of the pavilions had corporate sponsors'.
Greatstuff but surely the great thing will be to see UP 4014 brought back to life. A. Must see trip to the US I think. To stand close by the rails and feel it pass by will be the best
Did you see the new edit??? Check the channel. Just before Christmas we went to Disneyland and had a ball and added some new footage including Walt’s apartment
Steven Rowe I live in Utah and Big Boy 4014 came thru our town on it's way to Wyoming a few years ago. It stopped in the town of Stockton, Utah, just a few miles south of us, and we were able to get up close to it. Awe inspiring and it made everyone understand why they call it a Big Boy. It's a beast! It was especially fun to hear the horn echo off of our mountains as it passed thru our town. I'm looking forward to the day when I get to see it return in all its glory too!
Laure Lind ,Linda. She is huge, only the Americans xould do something so grand. The name vigboy came about my accident. Apprently when the first one was being built a young apprentice simply wrote with chalk BIG BOY on the smoke box door and the name stuck. I think to stand by the rack and watch her thunder by wouls be amazing, surely you would feel it through your feet.
steven rowe It made our house vibrate as it lumbered past us on the track. It's massive and we could definitely see and feel the difference between it and today's lighter weight diesel engines. Our house sits within visual and walking distance to the UP track that bisects our valley and everyone was cheering as it went past us on it's way North towards Salt Lake City and then on to Cheyenne.
I've been in the backlot before at Disneyland. It is located behind the north end of the park. It is pretty huge and it does not look magical. We were also not allowed to take pictures. I know this because I marched in the Disneyland Parade during my 2010-2014 high school years. We used that area to get ready.
4:44 "the railroad runs most efficiently and can pull the most number of passengers when they have 3 trains on the line". Disneyland was the first attempt to run an amusement park train on a block controlled track. With 2 stations and 2 trains. That failed right away, they needed 3 trains to even come close to keeping up with the load. So in 58 they added a new train and another depot. In those days as each ride was one ticket, they didn't want people to stay on the train, so what ever depot you got on at, you were required to get off at. So, every train had its own station. And that worked well. Until they added a 4th train. And every train stopped at each station, the system they have now. And the system slowed way down. With 4 trains, often a train needs to wait at a red block while a train is loading people. With 3 trains the trains never catch up to each other. All green lights all the time. SO on some days they will add the 4th, knowing the system will slow down and stack up, but knowing they can pack 33% more people on board. So when you are there, hope they are running 3. The trains will come every 15 minutes, and you will get out of the stations faster and never stop at a red block to wait for a train ahead to clear the station. The only advantage to running 4 is the trains come more often. AND if people get on and off quickly you will be on the line for the usual amount of time. BUT more often the train will go slow in some places, and even wait in some places like just outside of the Primeval World. And while you may feel you got a better ride as it took longer, as you pay one price, what you want the ride to be fun, not long. And sitting waiting for a green light is not fun. So on busy days they will at times run 4 trains, only to make people feel the line is moving faster, which it isn't. But the trains do come more often. At Main St as one train is ofter waiting for a green, as soon as the train clears the station, another will pull right in. But with the system slower, fewer people will have ridden at the end of the day.
This debate rages on. Mostly at Disneyland. When they can move people faster, 4 is better. But when loading and unloading is slower, the whole system backs up with 4. Hum...
I can't seem to get the reply to work!! So I posting here. The tour was set up as part of the national narrow gauge convention. Disneyland will allow tours for groups, but you need to contact them several months in advance. They seem to like groups of about 15 - 20 people. They don't allow photography however this can be arranged for the area just outside of the round house. And perhaps inside if you are nice. But the rest of the area is right out. They worry about bad guys learning too much, and I for one totally get it. They are a target like it or not. And they do a great job of keeping millions safe in their parks without ever making problems for their guests.
i never heard disneyland does/will do that nor it's on thier website. i heard walt disney world does roundhouse tours and disneyland, however, does cab rides
I remember riding on one of the trains in Disneyland, California when I was about 5 years old. It was a lot of fun, but, unfortunately, one of the exhibits burned down as we were passing it. As we passed the burning exhibit, they played a recording, saying, "The building is not on fire" over and over to keep everyone calm.
cellogirl11RW ah the burning settlers cabin!! Classic. For years it burned. Than they changed it to s lighting effect. Than they just gave up on it. They always work to avoid pollution. For years they have been shooting fireworks into the air from air cannons.
*Thanks for some additional information* on the Disneyland RxR rolling stock; the private car resembles an 1870's Kimball refitted with Pullman furniture. The two 4-4-0's, original to Walt Disney Company's Retlaw Division, are very much scaled down from the once-ubiquitous Baldwin 8/27-D-2's of the mid-1870's - I reckon Burnham, Parry, Williams and Company, who ran the Philadelphia locomotive works at the time, would have likened the _Holliday_ and _Ripley_ to a possible 3'-0" gauge Class 8/18-D-1, except that the scaled-down cabs are a tight fit for not-so-small crewmen (Baldwin used scaled-down cabs only for 2'-0"-gauge four-coupled mine locomotives; the 3'-0" 4-4-0's Class 8/22-C-2 and 2-4-0's Class 6/18-C-1 used standard-gauge cabs). Three genuine Baldwins are also at Disneyland: Two 2-4-4's (don't know the official Class designation) with on-frame tenders, and one 2-4-0 Class 6/16-C-1 with separate tender. I reckon all five will undergo their 1244-day overhauls during phase one of Star Wars Land construction, which has the railway closed.
+B. C. Schmerker I'll bet they do. We are just back from The Golden Spike National Historic Site. Looked and Chads cool engines, and the connections to the Retlaw shops. Mostly looking at the colors, figuring out what the real colors were on the two engines. And the murals on the 119. Fun project!!
Nope. Its a nice smell, but not like that. Odd mix of smells, even like a swimming pool. But they treat the water too. Alter the PH and remove scale. The boiler they have on display is an old used one. One they replaced, and it looks 100% perfect. No scale, no corrosion. Perfect.
The Lilly Belle is currently being refurbished, but she usually brings up the rear of Holiday 5 (Blue). She is expected to be back sometime this spring
Retlaw not just owned the railroad and monorail and steamship but the old parking lot where DCA is now. Those working those attractions and areas were paid by Retlaw. This all changed when Retlaw went defunct in 2005.
It wasn't boring. Anything Disney is always good. At this point, I would rather pay to get backstage tours on how the magic happens. Or maybe that's just science part me talking.
Which we had seen that!!!!!! Fun story about that loco. Lilly Disney got POed at the corp years ago and said I want the Lilly Bell back!!!! (The 7,25 inch gauge on display at Main St Disneyland depot) For some reason, someone thought she meant that loco, the one at WDW!!! And the legal people said, yup, it belongs to her. So they packed up the WDW loco. Before it was shipped, Lilly informed them of their little mistake. Oops. Anyway, she got her loco back, and they built a reproduction for the depot.
When you think about it, a lot of other things at Disneyland are essentially, little railroads-- maybe even *most* of the rides, certainly all of the dark rides for instance, which run on tracks. It's pretty clear Disneyland was fueled by a significant obsession with things that run on rails...
Great video went on that tour myself which started my idea of a G-scale Disney layout in my back yard. I have a G-scale Lille Bell but can't find excurrsion cars. Would you have any Ideas on were someone could get this type of car. Thank You George
They did make those cars. They were sold in the gift shop at Disneyland and as far as I know that’s the only place they were sold. I understand LGB made them? Anyway I’ve seen them and they’re really nice. But I defy you to find some. I’ve set up a search on eBay and haven’t had a hit yet.
hey Toy Man Television. You should definitely visit the Travel Town and Los Angeles Live Steamers in Los Angeles, California in the heights of Griffith Park.
Siempre quise ver el funcionamiento de esas locomotoras esas eran las que estaban en Mérida yucatan las ex unidos de yucatán que fueron vendidas a Disney en el 69 a hora solo que dan 2 de vapor la 270 y la 350 en malas condiciones.
Did the Marie E get to stay at disneyland? I rember it from when it was in Reedly for its renovations. i dont rember what number it was but it was an 0-4-0 named after another animators wife. Its over a century old and beyond what i learnt at hillcrest i don't remember much.
Didn't know they changed the name on the car. I have spoken to several people who have ridden on it. It was on the train all the time, but now they think its "not up to their standards" and don't want to spend money on it. So its parked. Sad. Retlaw was the name of disney's company that owned the railroads and the Mark Twain. Walter spelled backwards.
+giladmarkman Have you guys seen the Rossi Ranch Railroad show here on the channel? Rob is the guy that bought 4 Disneyland cars for his private railroad. NICE GUY. Some people are very upset he was sold these 4 cars.
Biodiesel from all the fryers in Disneyland and the entire complex. I took the tour (where you also get to ride the Lilly Belle) and they shared that fact.
Argh! You're completely wrong about the Lilly Belle car. It was the Grand Canyon observation car until long after Walt died! It was part of the RETLAW-1 consist.
You have a bit of a factual error. You said Walt didn't ride in the Lilly Belle and instead preferred to drive the train. The more likely reason is that when the Lilly Belle entered service in 1975 he had been dead for 9 years.
It would be good to see a little bit more of the engineering side of things rather tan just a general overview ! What are the regular maintenance issue's and whats involved with doing them, common problems ? .
David Haddock Trying to get back into the shops there to cover just such issues. Always difficult to shoot at Disney! Easier to get into the shop to Disney World and so we may do that.
Yup!! Need to beg a bit. That's how I got the footage in the cab. AND an engineer badge!!!! Hanging in Garagemahal AND the Disneyland locomotive oil can!!
I'm confused what your talking about the Lilly belle has always been called that and it's always been red also engine 1 is down for a rebuilt it was supposed to come back end of November but no point since the line will be closing
Than any railroad!! WOW. When I saw what it takes... Trucks are searched, mirrors under our bus. No photo rule..... OK I cheated. They said OK for the cutaway loco, but nothing more. WOW. Glad they looked the other way. I show one of the firework launchers, WAY off limits. BUt there it is........
Great video!!! When was this video taken? I only ask because engine 1 was sent offsite to start her restoration about a month ago. The Lilly Belle has been mainly attached to the end of the Holiday 5 train for the last couple years. The Lilly Belle has been out every time I go to Disneyland, I go at least a couple time a month. I know they leave it in the roundhouse on days when it rains. The last time I rode in it was in December. You have to ask to ride in it right when the parks open because they take reseverations for the day and the spots fill up quickly.
THis was in September. Late September. Not sure if #1 was there. I think it was, the still is an older still shot. These engines get rebuilt so often, and with bio fuel, they burn so clean that the boilers are so darn clean. The cutaway is a discarded boiler! And it looks like it brand new!
Was there in 1965 as a kid. The place was total magic and is really a national treasure.
Mom took me to Disneyland when it was new. Been back 20 some times through the years. Love that place. I'm a big rail fan, but also enjoyed Mr Lincoln. Took my British wife there many years later. She was wowed!
And it all started with a man wanting a railroad in his backyard
Even before that: a young boy on a train
its started as a child, then it started growing in a barn right here in california
Wait is the monorail shop on top of the locomotive shop? I have no idea why but I find that very entertaining. The train of the future and the train of the past both being serviced under the same roof. Fantastic.
Yup! The original locomotive shop was a small tin building for the locomotives only The cars sat outside. In the 60’s when they were building the monorail the shop needed to be up high and the trains needed to be inside as they couldn’t really be uncoupled. So... why not put the steam shops under the monorail shops!! And then the whole trains could be pulled inside and never uncoupled.
I want to tell you just what an incredible treat it was to be able to see some of the otherwise hidden from the public items !
The absolutely gorgeous private railcar of Walt Disney !
WOW !
Thank you for going through the arguous task of getting to get behind the scenes and into the inner workings of Walt's privately owned railroad !
Thank you again !
Thank you!!
I didn’t know these engines ran on live steam, I always thought they were dummy trains powered internal combustion engines
Last year while the railroad is shut down for the Star Wars construction, they had the Lilly Belle parked at the New Orleans Square. I was able to talk the engineer into letting me, my buddy and our two kids go inside it. It was a blast to get a private tour of this famous train.
COOL BEANS. That's s real score.
Before I was born, My mom workred for Walt Disney, In the secretary pool, At WED Productions,In fact she accidentally hit him with a typerwriter carrage, My mom apollogized, quite alot until Walt stopped her and replied, " No. Not Mr. Disney, Walt! " He wanter everyone to address him by his first name, Ohh Wow!!
That's cool.
I used to love trains so much, now i’m into planes. I still have joy for when i see something spectacular. Supposed to be going to travel town with my dad here soon in Griffith Park, CA!
Yes, not boring at all, just stumbled onto this one as I watch many Disney biography's etc.. I never knew Walt liked to just drive the train & play so much. Thanks for the Video Toy Man!
I can't remember the circumstance, but I got to ride in the Lilly Belle around the Park once. I also rode the tender around the Park. I have to be one of Disneyland's biggest fans. My first visit was in December, 1959.
Oddly it’s easier to get a ride on a locomotive than the Lilly Bell.
OUTSTANDING Documentary and Adventure....Didn't The Disney Train Bell ...also had a unique tone that Disney Tuned ? unforgettable Sound Of My Life
That was very cool!!! Thanks for sharing 😊
I was a volunteer at the Pine Creek Railroad in Farmingdale, NJ. Their first acquisition was Raritan River Sand Co. #10, a Baldwin built 3 foot gauge 0-4-0 saddle tank. That same engine is now Disneyland #4, the Ernest S. Marsh.They'll tell you it came from a lumber operation in New England, but that's not true. They probably say that for "romance" purposes, but I know for a fact it's the same engine. She even "went missing" on the way to Disney - for protection, she was shipped to California in a boxcar, and this resulted in her being accidentally routed to Chicago instead.
Great video! The behind the scenes of this railway is something I had too see!
Hard to get in. But WOW!!!!!!!
I love Disneyland, I try to go once a week. Thanks for this video, it was so awesome!
I want to go.
My mom & sister got to ride in the Lilly Belle coach once. Wish I was there. Working on the Disneyland RR would be a dream job.
AWESOME!!! Great video!
Thanks!!!!we have lots of other Disney video too! You might like?
@@ToyManTelevision Thanks, going to do a search of your channel, already see a lot more cool subjects youv covered!
@@toshibavoodoo check the “walking with Walt” videos. The first is the main video on the channel page. 5 total.
@@ToyManTelevision THANKS!! I'll check them out!
Thanks for your video. Came across it today and it brought back memories! At 3:18 you have a close up of the #2 tender. As a 28 year veteran cast member of the Sign Shop, I was given the opportunity to create the lettering on the side as a throwback to the original Disneyland Santa Fe R.R. Also a fellow cast member and myself did all the lettering and gold leaf on the Lilly Belle refurbishment project. I created all the interior ceiling panels from one photo graph that existed. What a great time and labor of love! Retired now as of June 2020.
Wow!!!!!!!!! That is great.
Slight correction. The "Lilly Belle" was not Walt's private car. It's original name isn't even "Lilly Belle." This was originally part of the Retlaw 1 consist, number 106, and was called "Grand Canyon." It was just an observation car with similar seating to the other 5 Retlaw 1 coaches. When the coaches and combine were sold off, Disneyland retained the Grand Canyon and rebuilt it into the Lilly Belle.
+Mark Yerkes Hi Right. Misinformation on the car. Lots of misinformation on all things Disney! Hard to match legend to facts.
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Thanks for posting that, Mark. You saved me the bother
That is great footage that not a lot of people don't get to see, but you do have one little thing wrong. Walt never got to see the Lilly Belle as it is now. Walt died in 1966 while the car #106 didn't become the "Lilly Belle" until 1975 when it was opened up to V.I.P.s and members of Club 33. Prior to 1975 it was known as the Grand Canyon and was on the Retlaw 1 Passenger Train.
Cool I didn't get a few things right. But I got most of it and had a BLAST. I dreamed of doing this for decades.
I went behind the scenes of the Disney world railway a few years ago!
I once rode in the Lilly Belle. It was a indescribable joy.
They do offer a way to get a ride, and I have looked into that but as yet have never gotten to ride in the car. As of now they only run it on Fridays and first trip of the day is available for people who pay for a particular tour of the place. However next time we are in Disneyland going to try to figure out a way to get that Friday ride. I have seen where on Friday the car is left on the train throughout the rest of the day and certain people are allowed to ride it. But I think their members of the D 23 club or something like that
Thank you for showing the behind the scenes of the wonderful Walt Disney's Steam Engines. Enjoyed watching the video
You are welcome!!! Have you seen any of out other disney shows? We have a series called "Walking With Walt". Sort of a remake of this show with LOTS of new stuff.
This was interesting, informative, and fun. Thanks for posting it!
Very nice video and fun to watch. Have a nice day.
Thanks!!! Keep watching. And you too have a nice day!
I actually got to ride in the Lilly Belle car on one trip to Disneyland. Overall, the Disneyland Railroad is always satisfying to experience.
Here's a bit of back history about the railroad at Disneyland. At the beginning it had a corporate sponsor. AT&SF RY (Santa Fe). For many years' from the beginning to around the late sixties or early seventies they funded the operation. The first four locomotives are named for past presidents of the railroad the last being Ernest S Marsh whom I had the privilege of working for until his retirement and a great supporter of Walt Disney. As you know most of the pavilions had corporate sponsors'.
Yup. Disney worked for the ATSF as a young man.
Greatstuff but surely the great thing will be to see UP 4014 brought back to life.
A. Must see trip to the US I think.
To stand close by the rails and feel it pass by will be the best
Did you see the new edit??? Check the channel. Just before Christmas we went to Disneyland and had a ball and added some new footage including Walt’s apartment
Steven Rowe I live in Utah and Big Boy 4014 came thru our town on it's way to Wyoming a few years ago. It stopped in the town of Stockton, Utah, just a few miles south of us, and we were able to get up close to it. Awe inspiring and it made everyone understand why they call it a Big Boy. It's a beast! It was especially fun to hear the horn echo off of our mountains as it passed thru our town. I'm looking forward to the day when I get to see it return in all its glory too!
Laure Lind ,Linda. She is huge, only the Americans xould do something so grand. The name vigboy came about my accident.
Apprently when the first one was being built a young apprentice simply wrote with chalk BIG BOY on the smoke box door and the name stuck.
I think to stand by the rack and watch her thunder by wouls be amazing, surely you would feel it through your feet.
steven rowe It made our house vibrate as it lumbered past us on the track. It's massive and we could definitely see and feel the difference between it and today's lighter weight diesel engines. Our house sits within visual and walking distance to the UP track that bisects our valley and everyone was cheering as it went past us on it's way North towards Salt Lake City and then on to Cheyenne.
I've been in the backlot before at Disneyland. It is located behind the north end of the park. It is pretty huge and it does not look magical. We were also not allowed to take pictures. I know this because I marched in the Disneyland Parade during my 2010-2014 high school years. We used that area to get ready.
Walt was a legend :)
He was.... Complicated man... BUT the KING of screwing around.
4:44 "the railroad runs most efficiently and can pull the most number of passengers when they have 3 trains on the line". Disneyland was the first attempt to run an amusement park train on a block controlled track. With 2 stations and 2 trains. That failed right away, they needed 3 trains to even come close to keeping up with the load. So in 58 they added a new train and another depot. In those days as each ride was one ticket, they didn't want people to stay on the train, so what ever depot you got on at, you were required to get off at. So, every train had its own station. And that worked well. Until they added a 4th train. And every train stopped at each station, the system they have now. And the system slowed way down. With 4 trains, often a train needs to wait at a red block while a train is loading people. With 3 trains the trains never catch up to each other. All green lights all the time. SO on some days they will add the 4th, knowing the system will slow down and stack up, but knowing they can pack 33% more people on board. So when you are there, hope they are running 3. The trains will come every 15 minutes, and you will get out of the stations faster and never stop at a red block to wait for a train ahead to clear the station. The only advantage to running 4 is the trains come more often. AND if people get on and off quickly you will be on the line for the usual amount of time. BUT more often the train will go slow in some places, and even wait in some places like just outside of the Primeval World. And while you may feel you got a better ride as it took longer, as you pay one price, what you want the ride to be fun, not long. And sitting waiting for a green light is not fun. So on busy days they will at times run 4 trains, only to make people feel the line is moving faster, which it isn't. But the trains do come more often. At Main St as one train is ofter waiting for a green, as soon as the train clears the station, another will pull right in. But with the system slower, fewer people will have ridden at the end of the day.
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Not sure I understand the question...
This debate rages on. Mostly at Disneyland. When they can move people faster, 4 is better. But when loading and unloading is slower, the whole system backs up with 4. Hum...
fantastic commentary from you man
I can't seem to get the reply to work!! So I posting here. The tour was set up as part of the national narrow gauge convention. Disneyland will allow tours for groups, but you need to contact them several months in advance. They seem to like groups of about 15 - 20 people. They don't allow photography however this can be arranged for the area just outside of the round house. And perhaps inside if you are nice. But the rest of the area is right out. They worry about bad guys learning too much, and I for one totally get it. They are a target like it or not. And they do a great job of keeping millions safe in their parks without ever making problems for their guests.
i never heard disneyland does/will do that nor it's on thier website. i heard walt disney world does roundhouse tours and disneyland, however, does cab rides
cab rides are easy. Hang out on Main st station and keep asking. Shops are HARD to get. You need a group. And like a year of talking.
Man, I miss Disneyland....
Soon....
Really cool. Thank you.
I remember riding on one of the trains in Disneyland, California when I was about 5 years old. It was a lot of fun, but, unfortunately, one of the exhibits burned down as we were passing it. As we passed the burning exhibit, they played a recording, saying, "The building is not on fire" over and over to keep everyone calm.
cellogirl11RW ah the burning settlers cabin!! Classic. For years it burned. Than they changed it to s lighting effect. Than they just gave up on it. They always work to avoid pollution. For years they have been shooting fireworks into the air from air cannons.
I loved the 2 Disney train railroad train it’s the best train I have ever seen and I miss it
*Thanks for some additional information* on the Disneyland RxR rolling stock; the private car resembles an 1870's Kimball refitted with Pullman furniture. The two 4-4-0's, original to Walt Disney Company's Retlaw Division, are very much scaled down from the once-ubiquitous Baldwin 8/27-D-2's of the mid-1870's - I reckon Burnham, Parry, Williams and Company, who ran the Philadelphia locomotive works at the time, would have likened the _Holliday_ and _Ripley_ to a possible 3'-0" gauge Class 8/18-D-1, except that the scaled-down cabs are a tight fit for not-so-small crewmen (Baldwin used scaled-down cabs only for 2'-0"-gauge four-coupled mine locomotives; the 3'-0" 4-4-0's Class 8/22-C-2 and 2-4-0's Class 6/18-C-1 used standard-gauge cabs). Three genuine Baldwins are also at Disneyland: Two 2-4-4's (don't know the official Class designation) with on-frame tenders, and one 2-4-0 Class 6/16-C-1 with separate tender. I reckon all five will undergo their 1244-day overhauls during phase one of Star Wars Land construction, which has the railway closed.
+B. C. Schmerker I'll bet they do. We are just back from The Golden Spike National Historic Site. Looked and Chads cool engines, and the connections to the Retlaw shops. Mostly looking at the colors, figuring out what the real colors were on the two engines. And the murals on the 119. Fun project!!
Awesome video! My father worked to make the trains run on bio-diesel I'm so glad you mentioned that!
Adam Ferry cool!! I always wondered why they smelled like that!
Toy Man Television Do they have a a french fry smell when they go by?
Adam Ferry What do they use as the base stock for their BioDiesel?
Not sure of the exact details. Its vegetable oil, Corn? Soy? Don't know.
Nope. Its a nice smell, but not like that. Odd mix of smells, even like a swimming pool. But they treat the water too. Alter the PH and remove scale. The boiler they have on display is an old used one. One they replaced, and it looks 100% perfect. No scale, no corrosion. Perfect.
The Lilly Belle is currently being refurbished, but she usually brings up the rear of Holiday 5 (Blue). She is expected to be back sometime this spring
thx for sharing it was a blast to watch and enjoyed most certainly. best wishes
Thanks!!!
Great information and special view s love it
It’s relly unfortunate that when I went the Disney land Rr was closed I was relly excited to ride it but it is what it is
Retlaw not just owned the railroad and monorail and steamship but the old parking lot where DCA is now.
Those working those attractions and areas were paid by Retlaw. This all changed when Retlaw went defunct in 2005.
Didn't know about the parking lot. leave it to Walt to figure a way to make a buck.
Slight correction, the Monorail opened in 1959, and the Grand canyon Diorama was 1958. You say the 1960's.
I would kill for a photo of the Number 1 Disneyland Locomotive all steamed up and the Monorail above it. I love trains...Subscribed! Cheers.
Thanks!! Love the Lilly Bell!!!! (#1). And the shops!! THey would not let us go up to the Monorail shops. Sad. High voltage!!!
This is awesome!!!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 😀😊😎😺
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+Benjamin VanRyn SUPER fun place. Lucky to get in to see it.
Great Video been there twice I see miss something OH well I guess I have too go back
SO very hard to get in the shop. Easer at Walt Disney World. But Disneyland all but impossible.
Love this! Thank you!
the guys that redid this car the last time all signed the inside of the interior wall before they assembled it
LEGO made a Disney train and made the R.P holiday and the lily bell and a passenger car
Cool!
There's 3 UdeY (unidos de Yucatán) 3foot engines that Disney bought in the 70's .
My Whole Life Could Of Been Like Walt Disney's
i love how he calls his youtube videos Movies
They are! Technically any moving picture is a movie! First they were movies them they were soundies. So these are both
well ya learn something new everyday
It wasn't boring. Anything Disney is always good. At this point, I would rather pay to get backstage tours on how the magic happens. Or maybe that's just science part me talking.
Was all of that part of the Disneyland equivalent of the "Magic behind our Steam" program?
Super video again. Keep up the good work!!
THANKS!!!!
The Lilly Belle from WDW was at Strasburg RR in 2010/2011
Which we had seen that!!!!!! Fun story about that loco. Lilly Disney got POed at the corp years ago and said I want the Lilly Bell back!!!! (The 7,25 inch gauge on display at Main St Disneyland depot) For some reason, someone thought she meant that loco, the one at WDW!!! And the legal people said, yup, it belongs to her. So they packed up the WDW loco. Before it was shipped, Lilly informed them of their little mistake. Oops. Anyway, she got her loco back, and they built a reproduction for the depot.
There is a yellow Retlaw car at the Disney barn in Griffith Park.
I need to get over there. Haven't been in like 20 years.
oh dang I better stop 'screwing around' and press that subscribe button already 🤞
Thanks!!!!
0:27 GOLF CART ON TRAIN WHEELS!
That is COOL. I want to turn a 22 Model T into a speeded.
Oh.
Cool right??
Uh... Sort of.
Yeah.
When you think about it, a lot of other things at Disneyland are essentially, little railroads-- maybe even *most* of the rides, certainly all of the dark rides for instance, which run on tracks. It's pretty clear Disneyland was fueled by a significant obsession with things that run on rails...
Worked for Santa Fe as a kid. Now kids can't have jobs....
Cool vid.
Great video went on that tour myself which started my idea of a G-scale Disney layout in my back yard. I have a G-scale Lille Bell but can't find excurrsion cars. Would you have any Ideas on were someone could get this type of car. Thank You George
They did make those cars. They were sold in the gift shop at Disneyland and as far as I know that’s the only place they were sold. I understand LGB made them? Anyway I’ve seen them and they’re really nice. But I defy you to find some. I’ve set up a search on eBay and haven’t had a hit yet.
such interesting video. l love it!
Happy place
I knew Walt Disney had a backyard railroad. But I didin't knew he loved them so much.
hey Toy Man Television. You should definitely visit the Travel Town and Los Angeles Live Steamers in Los Angeles, California in the heights of Griffith Park.
great video! very insightful.......i didint think that road was that big.............have you done any on Knotts berry farm?
Siempre quise ver el funcionamiento de esas locomotoras esas eran las que estaban en Mérida yucatan las ex unidos de yucatán que fueron vendidas a Disney en el 69 a hora solo que dan 2 de vapor la 270 y la 350 en malas condiciones.
I love how you talk! I want you to be my uncle!
Thanks!!!!!! I talk to much. So thanks!!!!!!!
I like the Diaramas
The image quality in this video is great! What did you shoot with?
It's green! Ha!
Did the Marie E get to stay at disneyland? I rember it from when it was in Reedly for its renovations. i dont rember what number it was but it was an 0-4-0 named after another animators wife. Its over a century old and beyond what i learnt at hillcrest i don't remember much.
It went back to justi creek. And was in the fire. But not hurt as I hear it. Hope they get it back together
Engine number two is actually haunted
This is a great video! Thank you for sharing your very lucky experience!
Thanks for replying Mr Toy Man. I want to see the engine shop so badly now! Awesome video!
Didn't know they changed the name on the car. I have spoken to several people who have ridden on it. It was on the train all the time, but now they think its "not up to their standards" and don't want to spend money on it. So its parked. Sad. Retlaw was the name of disney's company that owned the railroads and the Mark Twain. Walter spelled backwards.
they completely renovated it as well. it used to be a yellow car, not red. and the interior got a full makeover
Which car Is being renovated?
The lilly belle, it WAS renovated. now none are probably some will be during the long closure
+giladmarkman Have you guys seen the Rossi Ranch Railroad show here on the channel? Rob is the guy that bought 4 Disneyland cars for his private railroad. NICE GUY. Some people are very upset he was sold these 4 cars.
+Toy Man Television i heard of it and watched some on youtube if you mean the place where the remaining four "Retlaw 1" cars are
Disney got a lot of ideas from Henry ford's greenfield village Mi
Want to get out there.
I wonder if the trains do run on steam or not because i can't see wood or coal in the three engine's tenders and bunker. (one of them has a bunker)
Henry The Green Engine all Disney trains are steam driven. The fuel is Diesel, LP gas used to be used, I believe
Biodiesel from all the fryers in Disneyland and the entire complex. I took the tour (where you also get to ride the Lilly Belle) and they shared that fact.
nice video!
+CSX Productions Thanks. Had been wanting to get in there for years. And SCORE!
All we had to do was follow the damn train CJ
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Toy Man Television it’s from a game
Argh! You're completely wrong about the Lilly Belle car. It was the Grand Canyon observation car until long after Walt died! It was part of the RETLAW-1 consist.
Great Video! What camera are you shooting with?
I use the panasonic GH2 (H) you get someone to "hack" the software and boy does it look great! But it voids the warranty.
Great video!
Just one thing though.. I hope you were referring to Disneyland as a "magic kingdom" instead of THE Magic Kingdom in WDW at 6:56
they now have a tour where you ride in the train but I am sure you knew that
Hard to get on. Reserve at 7 am Friday. Sells out by 7:30.
You have a bit of a factual error. You said Walt didn't ride in the Lilly Belle and instead preferred to drive the train. The more likely reason is that when the Lilly Belle entered service in 1975 he had been dead for 9 years.
Well not exactly. I did miss a bunch but that was the year they changed to name. The car has been in service form opening day in 55.
It would be good to see a little bit more of the engineering side of things rather tan just a general overview ! What are the regular maintenance issue's and whats involved with doing them, common problems ? .
David Haddock Trying to get back into the shops there to cover just such issues. Always difficult to shoot at Disney! Easier to get into the shop to Disney World and so we may do that.
i would smoke so many blunts cruising that train around
Old Powys Park Middland Railroad is shorter
I guess.
who else thinks Disney land is in orlando because is actually in california. Disney World is in orlando florida.
I know the guy who was giving you the information on the half cut boiler! Friends dad
Great guy!! Fun demo.
ToyManTelevision did you know know that you can ride on the tender. I did I a few years ago and it was a great experience. Have you done it
Yup!! Need to beg a bit. That's how I got the footage in the cab. AND an engineer badge!!!! Hanging in Garagemahal AND the Disneyland locomotive oil can!!
Interesting stuff. Why would they ever run four if three is more efficient.
I'm confused what your talking about the Lilly belle has always been called that and it's always been red also engine 1 is down for a rebuilt it was supposed to come back end of November but no point since the line will be closing
+Surfliner486 The car Lilly Belle was called Retlaw and yellow for years. The locomotive has always beed Lilly Belle and Red.
when disney has more security for their trains than some railroads
Than any railroad!! WOW. When I saw what it takes... Trucks are searched, mirrors under our bus. No photo rule..... OK I cheated. They said OK for the cutaway loco, but nothing more. WOW. Glad they looked the other way. I show one of the firework launchers, WAY off limits. BUt there it is........
Do they run live steam at Disney world in Florida?
Yes!!! They have a second Lilly Bell too.
NICE! thanks so much!
Great video!!! When was this video taken? I only ask because engine 1 was sent offsite to start her restoration about a month ago. The Lilly Belle has been mainly attached to the end of the Holiday 5 train for the last couple years. The Lilly Belle has been out every time I go to Disneyland, I go at least a couple time a month. I know they leave it in the roundhouse on days when it rains. The last time I rode in it was in December. You have to ask to ride in it right when the parks open because they take reseverations for the day and the spots fill up quickly.
THis was in September. Late September. Not sure if #1 was there. I think it was, the still is an older still shot. These engines get rebuilt so often, and with bio fuel, they burn so clean that the boilers are so darn clean. The cutaway is a discarded boiler! And it looks like it brand new!
Toy Man Television Thank you, #1 would have been there at the time. The Holliday left Disneyland around November 20, 2013.
altosax18 Check 2:53 in the video to the left right next to engine #3.
Excellent production values. Good job. I hope your channel does well.
This has to be a new record for saying the phrase screw(ing) around all in under 9 minuets!
It does represent some significant screwing around
The Lily Belle parlor car never existed while Walt was alive. Here is a good link with more information www.disneylandclub33.com/Lilly%20Belle.htm