Fun fact: the Scania Wing, also known as F10 Ängelholm, flew the J35 till 1993. This air squadron is now disfunct but their logo lives on: it is that ghost found on every car from Koenigsegg. ✌️
No, last Draken flight at F 10 was in december 1998! You are thinking of 1 div that was shut down and re-armed with Viggen. They flew until F 10 was closed. They had the ghost that later Koeningsegg stole. Koeningsegg is located at 1 div old hangars.
the ghost was not their logo. they used to land and take off in the dark so the people could only hear them, so they started to refer them as ghosts. since Koenigsegg has a factory where the ghosts operated, they started to use the ghost symbol only on the cars that are made in that place
We in Austria bought them as our first fighter jet - at a time when everyone else sent them into retirement. (Yes, our polititians are notoriously cheap when it comes to defense). Our mechanics kept them flying for many years - even visiting Swedes were impressed, they knew the Draken only from the museum.
Austria was late to the party but not that late. None of the other nations using the Draken hade retired them at that time. Austria retired them five years after Sweden so that thing about only knowing them from museums sounds strange.
The decision to buy the draakens was hugely controversial at the time, right up there with the fate of the Zwentendorf nuclear power plant. Ultimately, the purchase went through and they replaced the Saab 105Ö jets the Austrian Air Force had been flying (the 105 was basically the flight trainer the Swedish Air Force used to train their pilots. Give it a gun and maybe a couple of missile hard points and Felix, Austria…) The red white red anniversary livery for the Austrian draakens was a hugely popular paints heme for modelbuilders here in the US.
here we go again: The name of this aircraft is NOT if translated into english, "The Dragon", but instead the not so very cool name, "The Kite". "Draken" in swedish can mean both. It was the wife of one of the chiefengeneers that when she saw the first prototype in the air, exclaimed (hence the neme): "Ohh, it looks like a kite!", or in swedish: "Åhh, den ser ut som en drake!", due to the deltawings.
Draken is also the Swedish name for the males of the Mallard, a species of duck. This would fit with the name of the successor the Saab Viggen as Vigg is the Swedish name of the Tufted Duck.
German troops were not allowed to pass through Sweden to invade Norway. German troops were allowed through "on leave" or back, and injured personnel, but that was after Norway had capitulated. And officially at least they were supposed to be unarmed. The only occasion German troops were allowed through, armed and in fighting condition were from Norway to the Finnish Lapland. This was after a govt crisis allowed as a strict one time measure, which they enforced later on. The first mentioned traffic seized the moment the military comparisons between Sweden and Germany started to tilt in Sweden's favour as the Germans were stuck in the east, and the risk of famine due to loss of imports (primarily coal and fertilizer) was eliminated.
Wasn't the allowance granted also after a veiled threat from Germany that If their troops were not allowed passage, that Germany would invade? I'm a little rusty with my WW 2 history regarding Sweden, but I remember them being in a difficult position with Germany and Britain fighting west of them, the threat of Germany invading from the south, and Finland having their hands full with the Russians on their east. Sweden had to be very nervous during WW2
When visiting airforce museums in Sweden, you are likely to not only see Draken but also some former Draken pilots. I have and they were really cool to speak with.
When I was a guardi at a shooting range for planes, we had mainly two types, the F104 and the Draken. F104 came in at 400 meter height when shooting at the targets, while the Draken often came in at 15 - 20 meter height. When the guards in the second tower where taking a nap, the leader asked the Draken to fly over the tower and turn on the after-burner, that could wake them up for shure :)
In Sweden, we have an old saying: The best way to make a SAAB fast, is to put an engine built by Volvo in them 😉 Those Rolls Royce engines were made by Volvo. I live close to one of those stretches of roads that are built specifically to be used for landing/takeoff. It has never ever been used for street racing, or high speed runs 😇
True. But.... Bizarrely in the 60's up to the 80's when it comes to Volvo cars this marque had the worst reputation of all for underpowered engines on most of it's models.
Actually, the two stroke engines that SAAB cars won several rallies during the 1960:th was German (I think). And the V4 engine they continue to do rally with was Ford V4 engines. There was even a Ford advert that said the Ford Tanus had a SAAB engine 🙂 SAAB 99 then had a UK Triumph engine, 1.7 l and 1.85 l. That was later replaces by SAAB own 2.0 l engine. That basically had followed SAAB to the end. That engine was the one that had a "to small" turbo, so it over charged. Which they fixed with a pressure regulated ventilation. That also won SAAB lots of Rally wins. But yes, the air planes had RR engines made by Volvo. 🙂
@@AndersJackson Yeah, but when they started to push the redblock Volvo later made it was disgusting how many horses they could put into that engine. Some even converted airplanes with that engine.
@@Necronomous and that also made the engine last forever. Which was a selling point back then. Some engineering students usually run a Volvo red block enging with the bottom removed, so it run without oil, all glowing but still running. SAAB was much better at getting power out of their engines. But without that stunt.
@@AndersJackson Redblocks with the right 3rd market equipment could get the old redblock up to 650 horsepower with original block and pistons in it. The problem was that these 3rd market stuff wasn't cheap at all. Often costed double as a new 740 did back in the days. But some did it. SAAB didn't got near that with their 3rd market engine components back in the days. I don't like to drive SAAB because your are sitting so stupid, with your left foot near the middle of it. I tested some older SAAB's and everytime I should press down the clutch I accidentaly pressed both clutch and the brake. It wasn't nice to sit with your left feet and the legs squeezed like that. Where you rested the left foot it was further up and didn't gave your feet a "normal" resting position. This goes with SAAB 900 and 9000. Have never drove a SAAB since, because it was awkward and for me it felt I was a danger in the traffic. But sure it is good cars I guess, for these who are used to it. But I am not, and I will never sit down driving a car like that at all in my entire life no matter which brand it is. I guess it was because that SAAB did more narrow sitting tunnel with larger wheelhousing they needed to put the pedals like this which made you sit unconfortable. I am also mad that both Volvo and SAAB had to sell their souls to companies over the sea. Nowdays SAAB is gone completely, while Volvo still exists but that because of the chinese market. However when the chinese bought SAAB, they where already gone. The chinese tried to save it, but they couldn't. Volvo have always been the best selling car between these two. I bought me a Volvo V70 2010 2.4D last year when my Volvo S80 crashed. Best Volvo I ever had, and it is from the american line. The engine however are the best diesel that was ever made. The 2.4D or D5 diesel. It is the same engine but the D5 got two turbos, a big and one smaller one. The smaller one puts out the lag and gives little more horsepower. When chinese took over they changed the 2.4D and D5 engine, which is sad. V70 from 2011 and upwards don't got the good diesel engine in them. You can see that on the sellmarket a D5 from 2010 can go about 450 000 km and more, while there are near to none 2011 with as much kilometers on them. Which is sick,. I mean it is only one bloody year between them but some components was changed in the engine.
Massive error , german soldiers were never allowed to pass through Sweden to invade Norway 1:52 2 months later when Norway was lost and the allies pulled out were the germans allowed "Permittenttrafiken" Edit: In October 1939, the three kings and President Kyösti Kallio of Finland met in Stockholm. Sweden tried to do another "tre kungamöte" like it had done in 1914 , and basiclly called all the other neighbours to join forces in order to stay out of a second world war , which had been done successfully in the first one. But this time both Norway and Denmark said no, thinking Sweden was trying to drag them into a possible war with Russia over Finland. Second Edit: Still not bad with the pronunciations , heard much worse from other fellow aussies
Nice, a video about the Draken! 😄 As a kid, my country has been using F-16's for as long as I could remember, and all kinds of American jets before that. I think I first saw the Draken in a book about european jet fighters. I still think its the most gorgeous jet that I've ever seen. Looking forward to those Viggen and Gripen videos!
Me too i have a similar event like you when i was still in a kindergarten my first fighter jet i know is mig29 i like it when i see it first time i even bought a mig29 model to my home at that time i thought mig29 was from america when i know it was from soveit at that moment i was like "NO no no no no it can't be mig29 is from soviet nooooo!"😂😂😂
Superb video, many facts about the drake I didn't know before. There are many comments so maybe this has been mentioned before, but hey: drake is the swedish word for dragon and also the the word for kite. When the "lill-draken" flew for the first time a SAAB engineer thought it looked like a kite, hence the name. Drake=kite, draken=the kite
The J-35 is definantly the best first go to pick in Ace Combat Zero. Shout out to Espada Team! Captain Alberto Lopez《Espada 1 to Espada 2. Its time to stop the Demon Lord.》 Second Lieutenant Marcela Vasquez 《This is Espada 2. Roger. Lead the way.》
I usually went with the Mig 21, ever since I first played Battlefield Vietnam (well before I'd even heard of Ace Combat), it's been my favorite Jet. I should try playing through again with the J-35 sometime, see how far I can get before needing to upgrade.
@@matsv201 *1905. And also, not really. The Swedish Norwegian union mostly consisted of a foreign policy and monarch union, Norway was mostly autonomous in everything else. Although they were forced to amend their constitution of 1814 to make the union legal in 1815.
if you stop at 14:22 the Draken with the red white red paint job is called the "Ostarrichi Draken". In 1996 one austrian Draken was painted with the colours of our flag and the writing of the first written mention of austria in a document from 996. So to celebrate 1000 years of the name the plane got painted and was the "airshow presentation Draken for austria from then on." But at first nobody knew about it outside the airforce. Shortly after they painted it, there was an airshow in austria. And at some point the speakers started playing "our secret second anthem" and this plane started into the air for a display. I have never experienced >100 000 people *silent* in admiration together before. And i have never seen my countrymen this moved (positively) by a piece of our history before or since this event. In later airshows people were expecting to see it until the Draken was retired. Small detail about the part where yugoslav aicraft entered austrian airspace during the first stages of the slovenian and croatian wars of independence: Since WW2 austria was not allowed to own missiles by the treaty of the allies after WW2. So when the first of these aircraft entered our airspace the government asked the former allies if we could buy air to air missiles. And they agreed and further defined the clause in the treatey to only forbidr surface to surface missiles. And so Sidewinders were aquired. As soon as they were here, the intrusions of airspace had stopped. Before that, the austrian Drakens were only equipped with their guns. Btw.: at least one of the yugoslav pilots that entered our airspace landed his Mig21 here and asked for refugee status. The Mig 21 was given to Serbia 2 or 3 years ago for a museum. (it was in an austrian Museum since he landed.)
I once had an opportunity to sit in operational Draken's cockpit. Was installing a weather radar display for Finnish Air Force and during the lunch break the pilots gave us a tour in the hangar.
I’ve been in many draken simulator cockpits. (Finnish aviation museum in Helsinki, Finnish Air Force museum in tikkakoski and the Finnish war museum in Suomen linna) haven’t been in an actual plane and definetly not an operable one
Vidéo géniale qui m'en a encore appris sur mon jet préféré. Je suis fan d'aviation depuis longtemps et ai monté quelques maquettes statiques pendant ma jeunesse et je regrette juste de ne pas avoir pu m'offrir le J 35 avec sa silhouette incomparable. Cette machine aurait mérité une carrière bien plus internationale. Merci pour cette monographie !
The SAAB 210 was massively under powered and no way near the sound barrier. However, some say the prototype of SAAB 35 did break the sound barrier at it´s first flight.
@@acajutla When you look at the Dates that the F-100 Super-Sabre broke Mach 1, and the date the Draken broke Mach 2.... Well, to say that the US was a WAY behind would be a Scottish Understatement. Note, too, that the Draken broke Mach 1 on it's First Flight, IN A CLIMB. It also, was really close to being 'stealthy', head-on. Had Radar-reflective shapes been better understood then, it could've been a very sneaky plane indeed. IMHO, it's step-grandchild is the F-16XL. General Dynamics literally took a J-35 into a wind-tunnel, then 'tweaked' the double-delta to provide the Wing for the XL, nearly 4 decades after SAAB made the early 'Adam' J-35's.
When I was a young teen I built a couple of Draken plastic models I painted them shiney black and before fully drying I sprinkled them lightly with glitter on the nose and tail. One was gold on the nose and silver on the tail while the other was vice versa. They were my UFO interceptor force.
I would argue SAAB J29 already had done it by beeing the fastest non-exprimental airplane in the late 40's and early 50's. J32 was one if not the first all weather jet. the we also had the Rocket escape chair which was designed for the J21/J21R.
I grew up near a military air station here in Denmark in 1970, and it was a pleasure when the Draken flew over us - A little curl was the sound of the Lockheed Martin Hercules warming up before take off - what a buzz - it was especially early in the morning in the summer you could hear them when you had your window open.
Before modern fly by wire maneuvering a fighter jet could be a lot tougher than you would have thought. Modern servos and later electronic fly by wire has changed that a lot.
Born 1970 in Sweden, the Draken was a common sight in the skies. I still love the shape of it. We also often saw its precursor (Lansen) and also the Viggen. Draken was not very loud. Yes, you could hear it of course, but compared to the Viggen it was "nothing". Draken was smaller too, but it always looked more sleak and dangerous. The Viggen is still my favorite, but it was all about raw power. It broke the sky when it flew by. The Draken was always more "sneaky", the kind of plane you never really knew where it was.
Ehm, yes we did. Both Hitler and sweden knew that if Norway wasnt taken by the axis, then the allies would have invaded to later seize swedish steel and cut of that supply for germany. And that would seriously hurt swedens economy...
@@adamhlali8106 And i mean what could we do? end up like Denmark and Norway? we kind of didn't have a choice in the end. Beside we did help both side one way or the other
@@adamhlali8106 Which piece of Swedish territory did Hitler cross. I have looked at the campaign in Norway and it was unnecessary to do so and iI can't see when and where it happened.
@@henrikerdland578 WRONG - you completely ignoramus - just when did it declare war on Germany and which alliance was it in from 1940? IT WAS NEUTRAL SINCE THE NAPOLEONIC WARS. LIKE SWEDEN AND NORWAY
I lived near military airfield in Finland when i was kid. It was very cool to see Drakens overflight fields where we play, sometimes they break sound barrier and we kids rejoice so much. Later that not happend, maybe regulations tighten.
They also had a tendency to fly low, at least over the sea. I remember being in the archipelago outside Stockholm when a squad of Draken passed us a high speed and low height. The sound was certainly something that you could feel in your chest. As I remember it the were supersonic as I remember seeing them pass us before I heard the sound. Now it might have been that we passed through a military training ground. These were not permanently banned but they announced training in the news on radio to keep people from sailing into areas where they would be firing live munition. Sometimes you would see airplanes towing targets for anti aircraft fire practice.
About the many deaths so were those more linked with ground attack missions that wasn't flown by Draken, but Viggen. They were such a terror on the phone lines that the flight floor had to be raised to from 10m to 20m.
The Viggen had a ground following radar that allowed for operation at very low heights. If I remember correctly there were both one going straight down and one at an angle forward. A coworker had been a fighter pilot starting with the Saab J 29 Tunnan and than flying the J 32 Lansen and J 35 Draken. He finally got a chance to ride in the Saab 37 Viggen. He said that setting the plane to follow the ground following radar was a jarring experience as it would bounce around violently when flown at really low height. Another coworker lost her dad when he crashed his Viggen into an ice covered lake. They did a lot of really low height training but they also had to pay a price in deaths as when flying at 10 to 20 meters a crash happens so fast you never have a chance to even reach for the emergency eject. From what I've heard the low height fighter training has been eased off a lot now.
@@blahorgaslisk7763 Viggen had a early navigation system similar to a modern GPS system that showed where the plane where on a moving map with altitude of obstacles and that helped with the low altitude flying. The ground radar was part of that in that it kept track of the planes actual speed relative to the ground to counter the wind drift.
There’s one inserted vertically, nose down, into a peat bog about an hour from where I live, presumably with the pilot still in it. Apparently he became a bit confused during a flight and sped downwards at about the speed of sound, and since there was no way of getting any salvage vehicles out there, the plane simply had to be left where it plunged. There’s still a black spot vaguely resembling the cross section of a Draken out there where nothing grows, because of the contamination, and bits and pieces keep surfacing every now and then. But excavation of the wreck remains impossible due to the punishing nature of the wetland.
As an American I've got a bias to American fighters but I will be damned if this isn't perhaps one of the best looking fighters ever it just looks the part
Interesting. I was mostly familiar with Saab due to its automotive products, the 96, 99, & 900 in particular. I've seen pictures of the Draken and wondered about it. I'm glad to hear that such a striking airplane was exceptional.
What do you think, SAAB stands for? "Svenska Aeroplan Aktiebolaget". It was a Swedish airplane company, named "The Swedish Airplane Company". Cars came very second.
”If we have the best planes we also need the best pilots” quote from a documentary called ”pappa och kalla kriget” i recomend it there are texted versions on youtube
I just want to say that the name Draken, when it comes to this fighter, actually does not mean dragon (not originally anyway). In Swedish the word drake can mean either dragon or kite. Originally the name Draken came from one of the engineers that worked with the early blueprints mentioned that "this aircraft looks like a kite". That comment soon sunk in into the design team and they thought that it was quite a good name since it both looked like a kite and spitted flames like a dragon. So it's actually a dual meaning of the name Draken (but the meaning kite was the embryo for the name). To put some weight to my words, one of the engineers (not the one that came up with the name) in the design team was my professor aerodynamics when I studied aviation engineering.
Soviets: make a plane and overegagerate everything good about it. Americans: spend years to maticulously design and make something that can defeat that. Sweden: makes something because looks cool and accidentally makes something better than both.
With the wind tunnel models tested at the FFA wind tunnel plus the scale prototype Lilldraken, there was nothing accidental about the performance and the shape wasn't because it looked cool. They knew very well what to expect before it flew.
Soviets: Make a flying truck that can land upside down and survive, but it flies like shit and breaks down randomly. Americans: Make a super overengineered aluminum can that flies like an angel but needs a week-long pedicure between each flight and dies if it sees a leaf on the runway. Swedes: Make a practical aircraft that just works. Easy to maintain and operate by conscripts. Slap on some super high-tech gadgets that no one else will use in 30 years. (Draken had an analog Data-link system. It looked like a normal clock, but it could receive analog radio signals and display coded messages to the pilot)
I saw Draken flying again for the first time since i was a very small child at an airshow in Sweden a couple of weeks ago. I know it's not named after a literal dragon but it surely roars like one. So much authority emanating from that bird!
iirc the reason for Sweden not being one of the founding nations of NATO was (at least partly) due to not wanting to leave Finland behind, as they, at the time, were locked behind the Iron curtain
Yes there was a high risk that USSR would have taken an even stronger approach to Finland than they already did and forced them into the Warsaw pact but Sweden already had 130 years of neutrality then as well. There were people advocating for both sides but the neutrality advocates won out, but there was always a close collaboration on intelligence with the British and US during the Cold War.
Fortunately, the Germans in Norway surrendered before they had to go into combat. Sweden also tapped and decrypted all German communication between Germany and Norway that we "generously" let pass through Swedish wires. Much of that was leaked to the Allies. We knew exactly what plans Germany had for a possible invasion of Sweden.
The first time I knew of this plane's existence was as the 'fast mover' from the movie 'Firebirds', aka 'Wings of the Apache'. Much like the Avro Arrow, the external aesthetics look extremely slick and modern, even by today's standards. I realise fighters are more about performance than looks, but the Saab 35 Draken certainly is a stunning looking beast!
Yes, simple and basic but extremely good. Problem is that you'll lose out on sales because you don't really got any new mediocre technology to seduce your customer with.
A group of engineers made some adjustments to the wing area and what I recall the leading edges, making this one outperform Viggen, Not so many people I think know about this. Due to Viggen being the successor, and much money at stake, they had to lay the project to rest. It would have been interesting to see how far the improvements would have taken this fighter. Imagine a new engine, better avionics etc. The two seater school version lacked the heavy equipment such weapon system and so on, was given the name “Turbo Draken” by the pilots. There are numerous stories about this aircraft sturdy construction, some pulling G’s beyond belief without a scratch. Stories or myth, it’s a cool one. In the 80’s I had the chance as a kid crawling through one without an engine installed. Also sitting in the cockpit. It was a dream come true.
If you are going to talk about Swedish military equipment then you have to make a story about their unique turret less tank, the S-103 with a driver at the front and the rear so it could "get out of Dodge" in a hurry. Later models lost the rear driver but the front driver could still go in reverse as fast as in forward. No turret equals lower height, the better to hide or ambush the enemy with. However, it meant moving the entire tank to aim properly. Up sides and downsides. From the outside, it looked like a normal tank minus a turret but with a cannon strapped to the top of the hull. As I said, unique for a fielded item of military hardware. Others have fooled around with this formula, but no one else had made one in numbers.
@@M3rl1n177 Nick didn't give a date, but this jet was flying in the mid-1950s. It was the first supersonic jet in Europe. Nick said the Me-262 was supersonic, but it wasn't. It was just about 100 miles an hour faster than Allied fighters. While in combat that speed dropped enough that many were shot down. If you are talking about the tank, it was the one that was produced and used in the field. Other turret less tanks were prototypes or concepts and never built in numbers like the S tanks.
I've heard rumors about the max speed of Draken being unknown, when they ran low on fuel it was still acceleratibg and if they brought extra fuel tanks that would refuce it's max speed
You forgot to mention Draken's best ability. There hasn't yet been a jet, which turns it's fuel so efficiently in violent noise. Damn was that thing loud.
@@Karl-Benny There is stil a difference between a given name and what people call it. By that logic the correct name for JAS39 could be "The Claw" or "Arrested"...wouldn't that be fun ;)
@@nirfz look at this supersonic rock it can break the sound barrier if you drop it from far enough! ._. There weren't any supersonic planes in ww2 the fastes one was the german 163 and that one also didn't reach top speeds of 1000kmh so not that close to mach
@@defender1214 The speed of sound differs in different heights and weather conditions. I think you should reread my comment. I did say "not really a supersonic jet. Or as much as the Mig15 and F86." So you are arguing with the wrong person i think.
Eeeh… Fact check. Nazi Germany didn’t go through Sweden when invading Norway. The Swedish government did however allow Nazi Germany to move their troops by train from Norway to their ally Finland in preparation for Operation Barbarossa. If you gonna talk about the embarrassing episodes in Swedish history, at least get the embarrassing facts straight 😆.
Also, in the Finnish Aviation museum near Helsinki Airport, you can fly the draken in a dedicated simulator which is not super realistic but has the neat feel. And it's included.
German troops were not allowed to pass through Sweden to invade Norway. After Norway was conquered, german soldiers off duty, returning to 'shore-leave', were allowed to pass through. Not saying that's good either, but the things are wastly different.
6:35 The Me-262 wasn't supersonic. The slight sweep wasn't done to increase its speed but to mitigate the change in center of mass caused by the engines being heavier than first expected.
Dispersed operation remains a cornerstone in Swedish doctrine. Even Gripen can land on a regular road, be refuelled and reared by a crew of 4 enlisted and a single technician operating out of a 10' shipping container, and be airborne again in 15 minutes
5th gen aircraft don't even need the cobra maneuver because they have vectored thrust so they dance around each other as they both fall. Not that a dog fight will ever really happen anymore.
The US John Boyd lead "Fighter Mafia" that developed the YF-16 prototype, studied the Draken in particular, noting it's very low wing loading, good power to weight ratio, giving it among the best turning ability, standing out among contemporaries.
Nazi-Germany did invade Norway from the sea, not from Sweden (what you refer to is that soliders on leave could travel back/from Germany, and there was also the midsummer crisis when they moved a division from Norway to Finland, but that is different).
I love this jet. Back when I was a kid in the 80s I thought it was the coolest looking jet in the world (I still think it looks like a starfighter or something to that effect, which is why I thought it was cool in the first place). Alongside the XB-70 it helped ignite a love of aviation that continues to this day. Also, that the Swedes didn't join NATO when russia was objectively more powerful in the guise of the ussr, is rather interesting. The implications of them joining are a good topic for discussion, and the question of 'what changed between then and now?' is also very good.
Just one comment: you mentioned Sweden watched Dassault test the delta wing in the Mirage III then Russia try the same with the MIG 21; but the Lilldraken first flew in 1952 and SAAB Draken was in production in 1955 while both the MIG 21 and Dassault Mirage III first flew in 1956, the same year the Draken became operational.
"and its sequel, ww2 Electric Bugaloo"
That shit made my day LOL
That was funny as fuck. Wanted to mention this in the comment section. So casual lol.
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Fun fact: the Scania Wing, also known as F10 Ängelholm, flew the J35 till 1993. This air squadron is now disfunct but their logo lives on: it is that ghost found on every car from Koenigsegg. ✌️
We could ad that the Koenigsegg factory is at the old F10 area.
No, last Draken flight at F 10 was in december 1998! You are thinking of 1 div that was shut down and re-armed with Viggen. They flew until F 10 was closed. They had the ghost that later Koeningsegg stole. Koeningsegg is located at 1 div old hangars.
@@joakimahlgren5965Dont think Koenigsegg "stole" it though.
@@pederfallbom They didn't ua-cam.com/video/8HgE3_otEhw/v-deo.htmlsi=MYUyYXHpMta20hmf
the ghost was not their logo. they used to land and take off in the dark so the people could only hear them, so they started to refer them as ghosts. since Koenigsegg has a factory where the ghosts operated, they started to use the ghost symbol only on the cars that are made in that place
We in Austria bought them as our first fighter jet - at a time when everyone else sent them into retirement. (Yes, our polititians are notoriously cheap when it comes to defense). Our mechanics kept them flying for many years - even visiting Swedes were impressed, they knew the Draken only from the museum.
Austria had the J-29 Tunnan and DeHavilland Vampire before it. It was the first supersonic jet though)
Austria was late to the party but not that late. None of the other nations using the Draken hade retired them at that time. Austria retired them five years after Sweden so that thing about only knowing them from museums sounds strange.
@@skunkjobb Although I read once in an aviation magazine: "Austria displayed their perfectly preserved Draken". This was in 2004
The decision to buy the draakens was hugely controversial at the time, right up there with the fate of the Zwentendorf nuclear power plant. Ultimately, the purchase went through and they replaced the Saab 105Ö jets the Austrian Air Force had been flying (the 105 was basically the flight trainer the Swedish Air Force used to train their pilots. Give it a gun and maybe a couple of missile hard points and Felix, Austria…)
The red white red anniversary livery for the Austrian draakens was a hugely popular paints heme for modelbuilders here in the US.
@@Argent_99 They had the missiles quite late actually.
Like imagine trying to outsmart a jet by being slow and he just sits behind you wondering what you are doing xD
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@@3drc172 im not gay :d
@@Dennanby Finnish standards you are
here we go again: The name of this aircraft is NOT if translated into english, "The Dragon", but instead the not so very cool name, "The Kite". "Draken" in swedish can mean both. It was the wife of one of the chiefengeneers that when she saw the first prototype in the air, exclaimed (hence the neme): "Ohh, it looks like a kite!", or in swedish: "Åhh, den ser ut som en drake!", due to the deltawings.
Tackar, nu behövde inte jag skriva det :P
just like the Fighting Falcon is nicknamed the Viper, we should nickname the Draken Draken.
JAG ÄR FRÅN FINLAND OCH JAG TALAR SVENSKA FINLAND HADDE DRAKEN
I chose the “Dragon” meaning because it is a beast of a plane.
Draken is also the Swedish name for the males of the Mallard, a species of duck. This would fit with the name of the successor the Saab Viggen as Vigg is the Swedish name of the Tufted Duck.
German troops were not allowed to pass through Sweden to invade Norway. German troops were allowed through "on leave" or back, and injured personnel, but that was after Norway had capitulated. And officially at least they were supposed to be unarmed. The only occasion German troops were allowed through, armed and in fighting condition were from Norway to the Finnish Lapland. This was after a govt crisis allowed as a strict one time measure, which they enforced later on.
The first mentioned traffic seized the moment the military comparisons between Sweden and Germany started to tilt in Sweden's favour as the Germans were stuck in the east, and the risk of famine due to loss of imports (primarily coal and fertilizer) was eliminated.
Yeah Im giving a dislike on this video for that.
Wasn't the allowance granted also after a veiled threat from Germany that If their troops were not allowed passage, that Germany would invade? I'm a little rusty with my WW 2 history regarding Sweden, but I remember them being in a difficult position with Germany and Britain fighting west of them, the threat of Germany invading from the south, and Finland having their hands full with the Russians on their east. Sweden had to be very nervous during WW2
@@Pepsiphopia sadly these videos are riddled with errors. Especially dates and units.
eller så var det den "officiella" versionen
@@MartinMoberg Vad är det du försöker antyda?
"Unintentionally broke the sound barrier" best accident ever
Yeah
When visiting airforce museums in Sweden, you are likely to not only see Draken but also some former Draken pilots. I have and they were really cool to speak with.
When I was a guardi at a shooting range for planes, we had mainly two types, the F104 and the Draken. F104 came in at 400 meter height when shooting at the targets, while the Draken often came in at 15 - 20 meter height. When the guards in the second tower where taking a nap, the leader asked the Draken to fly over the tower and turn on the after-burner, that could wake them up for shure :)
sure not shure
The Draken is really one of the prettiest planes ever created, along with it's modern equivalent, the Grippen
Got that right
Gripen, one P.
Yeah whatever, grip deez@@Stukov961
It's a plane for a particular connoisseur I guess...
To me it looks like the result of someone stepping on an F15
Hero ship, amirite? Hero ship! 😂
as a kid I had a bunch of 3 inch plastic fighter jets that might have come in cereal boxes in the early 70s. The Draken was my favorite.
In Sweden, we have an old saying: The best way to make a SAAB fast, is to put an engine built by Volvo in them 😉 Those Rolls Royce engines were made by Volvo.
I live close to one of those stretches of roads that are built specifically to be used for landing/takeoff. It has never ever been used for street racing, or high speed runs 😇
True.
But.... Bizarrely in the 60's up to the 80's when it comes to Volvo cars this marque had the worst reputation of all for underpowered engines on most of it's models.
Actually, the two stroke engines that SAAB cars won several rallies during the 1960:th was German (I think). And the V4 engine they continue to do rally with was Ford V4 engines. There was even a Ford advert that said the Ford Tanus had a SAAB engine 🙂 SAAB 99 then had a UK Triumph engine, 1.7 l and 1.85 l. That was later replaces by SAAB own 2.0 l engine. That basically had followed SAAB to the end. That engine was the one that had a "to small" turbo, so it over charged. Which they fixed with a pressure regulated ventilation. That also won SAAB lots of Rally wins.
But yes, the air planes had RR engines made by Volvo. 🙂
@@AndersJackson Yeah, but when they started to push the redblock Volvo later made it was disgusting how many horses they could put into that engine. Some even converted airplanes with that engine.
@@Necronomous and that also made the engine last forever. Which was a selling point back then.
Some engineering students usually run a Volvo red block enging with the bottom removed, so it run without oil, all glowing but still running.
SAAB was much better at getting power out of their engines. But without that stunt.
@@AndersJackson Redblocks with the right 3rd market equipment could get the old redblock up to 650 horsepower with original block and pistons in it. The problem was that these 3rd market stuff wasn't cheap at all. Often costed double as a new 740 did back in the days. But some did it. SAAB didn't got near that with their 3rd market engine components back in the days.
I don't like to drive SAAB because your are sitting so stupid, with your left foot near the middle of it. I tested some older SAAB's and everytime I should press down the clutch I accidentaly pressed both clutch and the brake. It wasn't nice to sit with your left feet and the legs squeezed like that. Where you rested the left foot it was further up and didn't gave your feet a "normal" resting position. This goes with SAAB 900 and 9000. Have never drove a SAAB since, because it was awkward and for me it felt I was a danger in the traffic. But sure it is good cars I guess, for these who are used to it. But I am not, and I will never sit down driving a car like that at all in my entire life no matter which brand it is.
I guess it was because that SAAB did more narrow sitting tunnel with larger wheelhousing they needed to put the pedals like this which made you sit unconfortable. I am also mad that both Volvo and SAAB had to sell their souls to companies over the sea. Nowdays SAAB is gone completely, while Volvo still exists but that because of the chinese market. However when the chinese bought SAAB, they where already gone. The chinese tried to save it, but they couldn't. Volvo have always been the best selling car between these two. I bought me a Volvo V70 2010 2.4D last year when my Volvo S80 crashed. Best Volvo I ever had, and it is from the american line. The engine however are the best diesel that was ever made. The 2.4D or D5 diesel. It is the same engine but the D5 got two turbos, a big and one smaller one. The smaller one puts out the lag and gives little more horsepower. When chinese took over they changed the 2.4D and D5 engine, which is sad. V70 from 2011 and upwards don't got the good diesel engine in them. You can see that on the sellmarket a D5 from 2010 can go about 450 000 km and more, while there are near to none 2011 with as much kilometers on them. Which is sick,. I mean it is only one bloody year between them but some components was changed in the engine.
Massive error , german soldiers were never allowed to pass through Sweden to invade Norway 1:52
2 months later when Norway was lost and the allies pulled out were the germans allowed "Permittenttrafiken"
Edit: In October 1939, the three kings and President Kyösti Kallio of Finland met in Stockholm. Sweden tried to do another "tre kungamöte" like it had done in 1914 , and basiclly called all the other neighbours to join forces in order to stay out of a second world war , which had been done successfully in the first one.
But this time both Norway and Denmark said no, thinking Sweden was trying to drag them into a possible war with Russia over Finland.
Second Edit: Still not bad with the pronunciations , heard much worse from other fellow aussies
I think what he meant was Sweden allowed German soldiers to pass through to invade Russia. Which did happen. He just said the wrong country.
@@alexzelinski5538 Still sloppy.
@@alexzelinski5538 People seem to forget that Sweden was NOT neutral regarding the conflict between Finland and Russia.
@@MerecirLess ”neutral”, more ”playing both sides”, no?
@@Suppagappa Incorrect , your have to look up Non-belligerent
As a Swede I think you did pretty good pronouncing the words and I’m very excited for the next videos in this series
Nice, a video about the Draken! 😄
As a kid, my country has been using F-16's for as long as I could remember, and all kinds of American jets before that. I think I first saw the Draken in a book about european jet fighters. I still think its the most gorgeous jet that I've ever seen. Looking forward to those Viggen and Gripen videos!
Me too i have a similar event like you when i was still in a kindergarten my first fighter jet i know is mig29 i like it when i see it first time i even bought a mig29 model to my home at that time i thought mig29 was from america when i know it was from soveit at that moment i was like "NO no no no no it can't be mig29 is from soviet nooooo!"😂😂😂
Superb video, many facts about the drake I didn't know before. There are many comments so maybe this has been mentioned before, but hey: drake is the swedish word for dragon and also the the word for kite. When the "lill-draken" flew for the first time a SAAB engineer thought it looked like a kite, hence the name.
Drake=kite, draken=the kite
As a dane i do like to tease/poke fun at the swedes but I will say they do build some pretty cool things
You do too. I grew up with LEGO. Thanks so very much for that /sincerely, a swede.
@@cuffzterMay seem simple but actually one of the most successful inventions in history.
The J-35 is definantly the best first go to pick in Ace Combat Zero.
Shout out to Espada Team!
Captain Alberto Lopez《Espada 1 to Espada 2. Its time to stop the Demon Lord.》
Second Lieutenant Marcela Vasquez 《This is Espada 2. Roger. Lead the way.》
Early thought I had a fun arcade flight game, but later I ended up having the best Bromance aeroplane game ever.
Was expecting to find this comment! "It's time to stop the Demon Lord."
I usually went with the Mig 21, ever since I first played Battlefield Vietnam (well before I'd even heard of Ace Combat), it's been my favorite Jet. I should try playing through again with the J-35 sometime, see how far I can get before needing to upgrade.
Ace combat reference organizations called all world with no boundaries good comment of ace combat fan.
@3:01 "Due to the size of its territory" - Shows a Norwegian valley.
Yes. 🇸🇪
Well..its part of sweden untill 1901... so.. he never sad what year it was.
We're the same country, brothers in blood
@@matsv201 *1905. And also, not really. The Swedish Norwegian union mostly consisted of a foreign policy and monarch union, Norway was mostly autonomous in everything else. Although they were forced to amend their constitution of 1814 to make the union legal in 1815.
@@Anonymous-zu7dh it was also infrastructure and trade. That mattered alot for the railways in the north.
if you stop at 14:22 the Draken with the red white red paint job is called the "Ostarrichi Draken".
In 1996 one austrian Draken was painted with the colours of our flag and the writing of the first written mention of austria in a document from 996. So to celebrate 1000 years of the name the plane got painted and was the "airshow presentation Draken for austria from then on." But at first nobody knew about it outside the airforce.
Shortly after they painted it, there was an airshow in austria. And at some point the speakers started playing "our secret second anthem" and this plane started into the air for a display.
I have never experienced >100 000 people *silent* in admiration together before.
And i have never seen my countrymen this moved (positively) by a piece of our history before or since this event.
In later airshows people were expecting to see it until the Draken was retired.
Small detail about the part where yugoslav aicraft entered austrian airspace during the first stages of the slovenian and croatian wars of independence: Since WW2 austria was not allowed to own missiles by the treaty of the allies after WW2.
So when the first of these aircraft entered our airspace the government asked the former allies if we could buy air to air missiles.
And they agreed and further defined the clause in the treatey to only forbidr surface to surface missiles.
And so Sidewinders were aquired. As soon as they were here, the intrusions of airspace had stopped.
Before that, the austrian Drakens were only equipped with their guns.
Btw.: at least one of the yugoslav pilots that entered our airspace landed his Mig21 here and asked for refugee status.
The Mig 21 was given to Serbia 2 or 3 years ago for a museum. (it was in an austrian Museum since he landed.)
I once had an opportunity to sit in operational Draken's cockpit. Was installing a weather radar display for Finnish Air Force and during the lunch break the pilots gave us a tour in the hangar.
I’ve been in many draken simulator cockpits. (Finnish aviation museum in Helsinki, Finnish Air Force museum in tikkakoski and the Finnish war museum in Suomen linna) haven’t been in an actual plane and definetly not an operable one
i believe everything you say, espacially with that profile picture 🤡
@@eS._Te admitting you're a clown is the first step in getting the help you need, good on you.
Finally, more plane content
Wait this is plane content?
Damn, it still looks like something straight out of a sci-fi movie.
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Vidéo géniale qui m'en a encore appris sur mon jet préféré. Je suis fan d'aviation depuis longtemps et ai monté quelques maquettes statiques pendant ma jeunesse et je regrette juste de ne pas avoir pu m'offrir le J 35 avec sa silhouette incomparable. Cette machine aurait mérité une carrière bien plus internationale. Merci pour cette monographie !
The SAAB 210 was massively under powered and no way near the sound barrier. However, some say the prototype of SAAB 35 did break the sound barrier at it´s first flight.
Lilldraken definitely had no afterburner.
@@acajutla When you look at the Dates that the F-100 Super-Sabre broke Mach 1, and the date the Draken broke Mach 2.... Well, to say that the US was a WAY behind would be a Scottish Understatement. Note, too, that the Draken broke Mach 1 on it's First Flight, IN A CLIMB. It also, was really close to being 'stealthy', head-on. Had Radar-reflective shapes been better understood then, it could've been a very sneaky plane indeed. IMHO, it's step-grandchild is the F-16XL. General Dynamics literally took a J-35 into a wind-tunnel, then 'tweaked' the double-delta to provide the Wing for the XL, nearly 4 decades after SAAB made the early 'Adam' J-35's.
@@ericbrammer2245 I belive you but at the same time not
When I was a young teen I built a couple of Draken plastic models
I painted them shiney black and before fully drying I sprinkled them lightly with glitter on the nose and tail. One was gold on the nose and silver on the tail while the other was vice versa. They were my UFO interceptor force.
The jet that really put Saab on the world stage!
I would argue SAAB J29 already had done it by beeing the fastest non-exprimental airplane in the late 40's and early 50's.
J32 was one if not the first all weather jet.
the we also had the Rocket escape chair which was designed for the J21/J21R.
I grew up near a military air station here in Denmark in 1970, and it was a pleasure when the Draken flew over us - A little curl was the sound of the Lockheed Martin Hercules warming up before take off - what a buzz - it was especially early in the morning in the summer you could hear them when you had your window open.
Bro called them "Dangerous pilots with big forearms" lmao, 2:30
@@PilotekzyWT I have a mental image of the cartoon character Popeye when big firearms are mentioned.
Before modern fly by wire maneuvering a fighter jet could be a lot tougher than you would have thought. Modern servos and later electronic fly by wire has changed that a lot.
Born 1970 in Sweden, the Draken was a common sight in the skies. I still love the shape of it. We also often saw its precursor (Lansen) and also the Viggen. Draken was not very loud. Yes, you could hear it of course, but compared to the Viggen it was "nothing". Draken was smaller too, but it always looked more sleak and dangerous. The Viggen is still my favorite, but it was all about raw power. It broke the sky when it flew by. The Draken was always more "sneaky", the kind of plane you never really knew where it was.
The Swedes did not let Hitler pass through to invade Norway, Hitler did so through over running neutral Denmark.
Ehm, yes we did. Both Hitler and sweden knew that if Norway wasnt taken by the axis, then the allies would have invaded to later seize swedish steel and cut of that supply for germany. And that would seriously hurt swedens economy...
@@adamhlali8106 And i mean what could we do? end up like Denmark and Norway? we kind of didn't have a choice in the end. Beside we did help both side one way or the other
@@adamhlali8106 Which piece of Swedish territory did Hitler cross. I have looked at the campaign in Norway and it was unnecessary to do so and iI can't see when and where it happened.
Denmark wasn’t neutral.
@@henrikerdland578 WRONG - you completely ignoramus - just when did it declare war on Germany and which alliance was it in from 1940?
IT WAS NEUTRAL SINCE THE NAPOLEONIC WARS. LIKE SWEDEN AND NORWAY
I lived near military airfield in Finland when i was kid. It was very cool to see Drakens overflight fields where we play, sometimes they break sound barrier and we kids rejoice so much. Later that not happend, maybe regulations tighten.
They also had a tendency to fly low, at least over the sea. I remember being in the archipelago outside Stockholm when a squad of Draken passed us a high speed and low height. The sound was certainly something that you could feel in your chest. As I remember it the were supersonic as I remember seeing them pass us before I heard the sound. Now it might have been that we passed through a military training ground. These were not permanently banned but they announced training in the news on radio to keep people from sailing into areas where they would be firing live munition. Sometimes you would see airplanes towing targets for anti aircraft fire practice.
About the many deaths so were those more linked with ground attack missions that wasn't flown by Draken, but Viggen.
They were such a terror on the phone lines that the flight floor had to be raised to from 10m to 20m.
The Viggen had a ground following radar that allowed for operation at very low heights. If I remember correctly there were both one going straight down and one at an angle forward. A coworker had been a fighter pilot starting with the Saab J 29 Tunnan and than flying the J 32 Lansen and J 35 Draken. He finally got a chance to ride in the Saab 37 Viggen. He said that setting the plane to follow the ground following radar was a jarring experience as it would bounce around violently when flown at really low height.
Another coworker lost her dad when he crashed his Viggen into an ice covered lake.
They did a lot of really low height training but they also had to pay a price in deaths as when flying at 10 to 20 meters a crash happens so fast you never have a chance to even reach for the emergency eject. From what I've heard the low height fighter training has been eased off a lot now.
@@blahorgaslisk7763 Viggen had a early navigation system similar to a modern GPS system that showed where the plane where on a moving map with altitude of obstacles and that helped with the low altitude flying. The ground radar was part of that in that it kept track of the planes actual speed relative to the ground to counter the wind drift.
There’s one inserted vertically, nose down, into a peat bog about an hour from where I live, presumably with the pilot still in it.
Apparently he became a bit confused during a flight and sped downwards at about the speed of sound, and since there was no way of getting any salvage vehicles out there, the plane simply had to be left where it plunged.
There’s still a black spot vaguely resembling the cross section of a Draken out there where nothing grows, because of the contamination, and bits and pieces keep surfacing every now and then. But excavation of the wreck remains impossible due to the punishing nature of the wetland.
As an American I've got a bias to American fighters but I will be damned if this isn't perhaps one of the best looking fighters ever it just looks the part
Hero ship, dangit! HERO SHIP! 😂
As a Brit I think your F15 holds the best kill to loss ratio. Our Mosquito held it for some time in WW2
@@vernongoodey5096 it does but I'm just going on looks in the particular case
I hate American planes, just share edges and unflattering designs, F-16 is the exception tho but the F-15 is just pure ugly
Interesting. I was mostly familiar with Saab due to its automotive products, the 96, 99, & 900 in particular. I've seen pictures of the Draken and wondered about it. I'm glad to hear that such a striking airplane was exceptional.
The cars came second. When WW2 was over, SAAB wanted to branch out.
What do you think, SAAB stands for? "Svenska Aeroplan Aktiebolaget". It was a Swedish airplane company, named "The Swedish Airplane Company".
Cars came very second.
Saab makes some GOOD jets. Glad to see them getting some play~!
”If we have the best planes we also need the best pilots” quote from a documentary called ”pappa och kalla kriget” i recomend it there are texted versions on youtube
I just want to say that the name Draken, when it comes to this fighter, actually does not mean dragon (not originally anyway).
In Swedish the word drake can mean either dragon or kite.
Originally the name Draken came from one of the engineers that worked with the early blueprints mentioned that "this aircraft looks like a kite".
That comment soon sunk in into the design team and they thought that it was quite a good name since it both looked like a kite and spitted flames like a dragon.
So it's actually a dual meaning of the name Draken (but the meaning kite was the embryo for the name).
To put some weight to my words, one of the engineers (not the one that came up with the name) in the design team was my professor aerodynamics when I studied aviation engineering.
Soviets: make a plane and overegagerate everything good about it.
Americans: spend years to maticulously design and make something that can defeat that.
Sweden: makes something because looks cool and accidentally makes something better than both.
With the wind tunnel models tested at the FFA wind tunnel plus the scale prototype Lilldraken, there was nothing accidental about the performance and the shape wasn't because it looked cool. They knew very well what to expect before it flew.
Soviets: Make a flying truck that can land upside down and survive, but it flies like shit and breaks down randomly.
Americans: Make a super overengineered aluminum can that flies like an angel but needs a week-long pedicure between each flight and dies if it sees a leaf on the runway.
Swedes: Make a practical aircraft that just works. Easy to maintain and operate by conscripts. Slap on some super high-tech gadgets that no one else will use in 30 years.
(Draken had an analog Data-link system. It looked like a normal clock, but it could receive analog radio signals and display coded messages to the pilot)
I saw Draken flying again for the first time since i was a very small child at an airshow in Sweden a couple of weeks ago. I know it's not named after a literal dragon but it surely roars like one. So much authority emanating from that bird!
iirc the reason for Sweden not being one of the founding nations of NATO was (at least partly) due to not wanting to leave Finland behind, as they, at the time, were locked behind the Iron curtain
Yes there was a high risk that USSR would have taken an even stronger approach to Finland than they already did and forced them into the Warsaw pact but Sweden already had 130 years of neutrality then as well.
There were people advocating for both sides but the neutrality advocates won out, but there was always a close collaboration on intelligence with the British and US during the Cold War.
Us joining NATO was the biggest mistake in our history and made me loose all my national pride, I'm ashamed to be Swedish
Amazing video! I love the draken, and Swedish aircraft in general
1:57 worth noting though that the swedes later did train norwegian "police troops" (which were actually military)
Fortunately, the Germans in Norway surrendered before they had to go into combat. Sweden also tapped and decrypted all German communication between Germany and Norway that we "generously" let pass through Swedish wires. Much of that was leaked to the Allies. We knew exactly what plans Germany had for a possible invasion of Sweden.
The first time I knew of this plane's existence was as the 'fast mover' from the movie 'Firebirds', aka 'Wings of the Apache'. Much like the Avro Arrow, the external aesthetics look extremely slick and modern, even by today's standards. I realise fighters are more about performance than looks, but the Saab 35 Draken certainly is a stunning looking beast!
The Swedes are very good in thinking out of the box in their designs. They are very good in thinking from its needed purpose.
Yes, simple and basic but extremely good. Problem is that you'll lose out on sales because you don't really got any new mediocre technology to seduce your customer with.
A group of engineers made some adjustments to the wing area and what I recall the leading edges, making this one outperform Viggen, Not so many people I think know about this. Due to Viggen being the successor, and much money at stake, they had to lay the project to rest. It would have been interesting to see how far the improvements would have taken this fighter. Imagine a new engine, better avionics etc.
The two seater school version lacked the heavy equipment such weapon system and so on, was given the name “Turbo Draken” by the pilots.
There are numerous stories about this aircraft sturdy construction, some pulling G’s beyond belief without a scratch. Stories or myth, it’s a cool one. In the 80’s I had the chance as a kid crawling through one without an engine installed. Also sitting in the cockpit. It was a dream come true.
First, if not the earliest plane option in Ace Combat Zero, I can hear the hangar soundtrack...
Saw one of these with a Viggen at a display a couple of weeks ago. Bloody beautiful aircraft.
One of best looking jet fighters. Ever. Made a model when I was young. 👽👍
have been looking forward for a video on the draken :D
12:50
Swedish pilots: That was fun; same time next week?
Soviets: Sure comrades but don't pull that crazy move again
fr comrade
Fun fact: the J35 Draken’s weaponry is called “Drakens tänder” (“Dragon’s teeth”) because how the armament looked like teeth
If you are going to talk about Swedish military equipment then you have to make a story about their unique turret less tank, the S-103 with a driver at the front and the rear so it could "get out of Dodge" in a hurry. Later models lost the rear driver but the front driver could still go in reverse as fast as in forward.
No turret equals lower height, the better to hide or ambush the enemy with.
However, it meant moving the entire tank to aim properly.
Up sides and downsides.
From the outside, it looked like a normal tank minus a turret but with a cannon strapped to the top of the hull.
As I said, unique for a fielded item of military hardware.
Others have fooled around with this formula, but no one else had made one in numbers.
Unique? No
@@M3rl1n177 Are you trying to redefine words?
@@M3rl1n177 Nick didn't give a date, but this jet was flying in the mid-1950s. It was the first supersonic jet in Europe. Nick said the Me-262 was supersonic, but it wasn't. It was just about 100 miles an hour faster than Allied fighters. While in combat that speed dropped enough that many were shot down.
If you are talking about the tank, it was the one that was produced and used in the field. Other turret less tanks were prototypes or concepts and never built in numbers like the S tanks.
I've heard rumors about the max speed of Draken being unknown, when they ran low on fuel it was still acceleratibg and if they brought extra fuel tanks that would refuce it's max speed
Nice that more and more people are recognizing that the Cobra Move was invented by the Swedes and not by Pugachev. ☺️👍
You forgot to mention Draken's best ability. There hasn't yet been a jet, which turns it's fuel so efficiently in violent noise. Damn was that thing loud.
Hilarity ensues when foreigners find out its actually the "Kite" and not dragon...
It`s actually Both as a Kid in Sweden we all knew it as the Dragon
@@Karl-Benny There is stil a difference between a given name and what people call it.
By that logic the correct name for JAS39 could be "The Claw" or "Arrested"...wouldn't that be fun ;)
Thanks so much for covering my favorite aircraft!
The star of Ace Combat Zero: The Belkan War and Infinity.
70 years of Saab 35 Draken.
Eyup players choice of which plane you want to fly ustio mercenary like cipher.
Good work Mate :) Cheers from SA
As the Me-262 became dangerous to fly at high subsonic speeds (above mach 0.86), calling it supersonic is kind of a stretch.
It reached supersonic speeds several times in descent though.
Still not really a supersonic jet. Or at least as "supersonic" as the Mig 15, F-86...
@@nirfz look at this supersonic rock it can break the sound barrier if you drop it from far enough! ._.
There weren't any supersonic planes in ww2 the fastes one was the german 163 and that one also didn't reach top speeds of 1000kmh so not that close to mach
@@defender1214 The speed of sound differs in different heights and weather conditions. I think you should reread my comment. I did say "not really a supersonic jet. Or as much as the Mig15 and F86."
So you are arguing with the wrong person i think.
You did alright with the Swedish. It’s a notoriously non -buttery smooth language
Eeeh… Fact check. Nazi Germany didn’t go through Sweden when invading Norway. The Swedish government did however allow Nazi Germany to move their troops by train from Norway to their ally Finland in preparation for Operation Barbarossa. If you gonna talk about the embarrassing episodes in Swedish history, at least get the embarrassing facts straight 😆.
Yeah not really neutral when you're literally helping Hitler
So good to see some love given to the Draken
4:56 The F35 Draken
Also, in the Finnish Aviation museum near Helsinki Airport, you can fly the draken in a dedicated simulator which is not super realistic but has the neat feel. And it's included.
German troops were not allowed to pass through Sweden to invade Norway. After Norway was conquered, german soldiers off duty, returning to 'shore-leave', were allowed to pass through. Not saying that's good either, but the things are wastly different.
Awesome video. Liked it very much!
Dorito of death
6:35 The Me-262 wasn't supersonic. The slight sweep wasn't done to increase its speed but to mitigate the change in center of mass caused by the engines being heavier than first expected.
Its J-35 follow by a letter to show model like J-35A
7:59 roll and pitch are controlled by the elevons, yaw is controlled via the rudder as on conventional designs.
Sweden always had the best jets 😎👌🏼
Great video! Looking forward to next about Swedish amazing Cold War exports.
hehe, Found and explained talking about funny angry Swedish Dorito hehehe 🇸🇪
Huh?
Such creative videos you’ve on this channel. Just subscribed!
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Dispersed operation remains a cornerstone in Swedish doctrine. Even Gripen can land on a regular road, be refuelled and reared by a crew of 4 enlisted and a single technician operating out of a 10' shipping container, and be airborne again in 15 minutes
My friend used to say Saab meant "Balls" in Swedish.
I’m Swedish and it does not mean that
Bollar
@@titan9259 exactly
SAAB is an acronym for 'Svenska Aeroplan Aktiebolaget' = The Swedish Aeroplane Stock Company.
The topspeed was limited by the fuel if I remember correctly hearing. It ran out of fuel before reaching its topspeed as it was still accelerating.
God I hate hearing about war thunder/raycon/audible
Same
Swedish drakens!
Flying the skies!
Forged in Saab, by the hammer of AB!
Out of Asgard, where the aircraft flies!
Never to turn back again!
5th gen aircraft don't even need the cobra maneuver because they have vectored thrust so they dance around each other as they both fall. Not that a dog fight will ever really happen anymore.
Yeah, Sweden is so neutral that it helped one country to invade another. 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah but its false , only time they did was when Germany wanted to send troops from Norway to assist Finland against Soviets
Never happened.
AFTER the invasion, only unarmed troops on leave from their posting in Norway were allowed transit.
My man let me tell you that your segway into the sponsor is the best segway I have heard in IDK how long.
The US John Boyd lead "Fighter Mafia" that developed the YF-16 prototype, studied the Draken in particular, noting it's very low wing loading, good power to weight ratio, giving it among the best turning ability, standing out among contemporaries.
The Draken double delta characteristics also paved the way for the development of Concorde and the Space Shuttle...
@@-NiEr Not to mention the Lockheed M3+ Blackbird series.
@@maximilliancunningham6091 True...
- And saved by Saab Viggens! 😎
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Nazi-Germany did invade Norway from the sea, not from Sweden (what you refer to is that soliders on leave could travel back/from Germany, and there was also the midsummer crisis when they moved a division from Norway to Finland, but that is different).
Draken had lovely sound, which was quite easy to recognise.
Omg ide love to see another one of these with the Viggen it was so good! :D
Great looking plane! ✈️ I read somewhere that if Great Britain made the plane it would have had made a lot of export sales.
Imagine rolling up to the gas station in your Volvo 240 and there is just a jet standing there fueling up
I love this jet. Back when I was a kid in the 80s I thought it was the coolest looking jet in the world (I still think it looks like a starfighter or something to that effect, which is why I thought it was cool in the first place). Alongside the XB-70 it helped ignite a love of aviation that continues to this day.
Also, that the Swedes didn't join NATO when russia was objectively more powerful in the guise of the ussr, is rather interesting. The implications of them joining are a good topic for discussion, and the question of 'what changed between then and now?' is also very good.
Sweden had the 4:th largest airforce in the world, during the cold war! Today it's reduced to 1/3 of what it used to be...
Just one comment: you mentioned Sweden watched Dassault test the delta wing in the Mirage III then Russia try the same with the MIG 21; but the Lilldraken first flew in 1952 and SAAB Draken was in production in 1955 while both the MIG 21 and Dassault Mirage III first flew in 1956, the same year the Draken became operational.
It's actually named after the kite after it's looks. Drake is Swedish for both kite and dragon
You cannot make yourself feel something you do not feel, but you can make yourself do right in spite of your feelings.
One of the most beautiful aircrafts ever created in my opinion
Great video I love the facts and your humor is great