"What is a human?" is a surprisingly hard question | ft. @GutsickGibbon
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Yo, Forrest is a time traveler confirmed! Two days ago, when the video came out an hour ago-
Actually Forrest (addressing your linguistics discussion point) cetaceans exceed us.
Dolphins for example react in uniform ways to specific vocalizations. But the way that they vocalize and the complexity of their linguistics is so great, that researchers for the past 45+ years have been studying their calls and vocalizations, but have been unable to decipher the meaning of these communications.
In fact a report released a few years ago stated that language specialists studying dolphin vocalizations are getting closer to understanding the basics of what these animals are saying to each other.
It has taken us nearly 5 decades to learn the very basics of their communication.
They have 4 lobes to our 3. All indications show a species that outstrips us where linguistic skills are concerned. The fact that we have not been able to crack their communication speaks volumes to the comparative discussion.
Cetaceans have us stumped where language is concerned.
Otherwise, great video. As usual.
@@lunar9342 time in is an illusion... A time traveler? doubly so☺
Forest, you and Erika are amazing educators! You make me want to actually change my current career path and dust off my biology degree. All of my favorite teachers in bio had the same type of unbridled passion and enthusiasm for science that you guys demonstrate on every video. Keep up the great work!
You work together well and the result is both entertaining and concise. With the recent glut from TTA to these collabs, we're getting spoiled. :)
Oh! My god!!!!! A colab with Forrest and Gutsick Gibbon. This is paradise!
my Godless cup runneth over!
If you'd like a 3 hours 50 minutes live show colab with them check out their show on the line. Yes it's 3 hours 50 minutes, and by The Line standards that's now short apparently 😂
Now all we need is a colab with dapper dino
Almost my own words when I saw this. Love to see others feel the same.
They just did an interview together.
Let's Explode The Universe (w Forrest and Gutsick Gibbon.)
ua-cam.com/video/xIBPgEIANjU/v-deo.html
“I never said she stole my money.” It is actually pretty cool how using the exact same words can mean totally different things depending on which word you emphasize.
It is really fun to try it too. always put the emphasis on the next word.
Also, "what are you doing here?"
You need to put the emPHAsis on the right sylLABle.
Or in some languages, tone.
This👆🏽 is why emoji are so helpful in conveying tone. We basically have access to a limitless source of *examples* of the tone we mean to convey, to then use as a single stroke of super punctuation.
Many Humans think way too highly of themselves as a species. We are animals like chimps, cows, pigs, etc. We all want love, safety, play, nurture our young, etc.
There are many ways to decentralise humans from the biological narrative. For Forrest is was thinking about malaria. It’s an organism that just wants to survive and your liver happens to be part of its life cycle.
For me it was mutations. A mutation that makes a pathogen better at reproducing in humans is beneficial even if it kills its human host. Beneficial or deleterious mutations are not beneficial or deleterious from a human standpoint, that are beneficial or deleterious for the mutated organisms standpoint.
Forrest, Erika, and Aron are my 3 favorite science communicators. If I had teachers like this when I was in school I would’ve tried harder rather than settle for B’s and C’s
Who is Aron? 🤔
@@APRENDERDESENHANDO Aron Ra is another guy that disproves creationists. He is a little more aggressive in his argumentation than Forrest and Erika.
In one of the episodes (I think from The Line), there were three of them and they were like a father with his two smart children 😊
Forest and Erica are the bio dream team!
You gotta see the Seth Andrews interview with the both 'em then.
Yes, yes they absolutely are
9:38 makes me contemplate an alternate universe where Forrest was a linguist. Honestly I still think he’d have such a passion for teaching that he’d have his own yt channel teaching about English and its little nuances. He‘d get super excited just like he does here
*its little nuances
Like this one, lol
And yes I'm a linguist
hahahaha, I have no doubt
@@Jay_in_Japan thanks for the correction - I can never trust autocorrect cause damn do I forget to check my work. Ngl quite the embarrassing mistake for me :(
If you're really interested in a very in depth linguist, I can highly recommend NativLang: www.youtube.com/@NativLang . He's not as bombastically enthusiastic as Forrest but you can definitely tell that this guy is really into his field of expertise.
Dr Geoff Lindsay here on YT has some wonderful linguistic content.
Also, one of my favorite sci-fi authors of all time explores language and linguistics a good bit. Ted Chiang.
Diving into any scientific question under the assumption that the answer is obvious almost always backfires.
These are the two people that inspired me to put more effort into my education and to one day become a biology researcher and a science communicator. I take pride in my opportunities and strive for the best in the schooling I have because these two people showed me the beauty of science and education as a whole. My jaw literally dropped when I saw this video in my recommended. So excited to watch this much-anticipated collab!
Me too it’s because of these 2 that I am back in college and I’m only starting small, I’m taking an intro to biology, intro to anthropology and an introductory biology lab, but I’m doing it and that is because of Erica and Forrest!
Congrats on making the goal to be a biology researcher and science communicator! I hope you're able to meet those goals!
I just got home from work teaching human evolution at a museum this was literally the perfect thing to get home to.
Ok AND 🤔?
@@justingary5322 I was just stating my gratefulness for this video because it was a nice thing to get home to.
@@cerasinopshodgskissi3817don’t listen to him he’s just trying to get under your skin.
Thank both of you for showing the joy of science!
but... but... why are there still monkeys!?
@@uncleanunicorn4571 Is this a genuine question, or a joke?
They're obviously joking. Otherwise I'd have to ask them, why are there still unicorns?
@@putridcobra Ha! I have watched this video and I know the answer! Well, sort of. In my 40+ circles around the sun I have never quite figured out which level of specificity or direction of an answer is the most useful or appropriate. Can I just say frontal lobe and call it good? :)
But, what if I told you that the house sparrow plays with its peers and elders and will sometimes hide in small spaces to ambush their friends and family? Would you agree that that's not possible without at least some imagination and planning? We're quite exceptional at it, but wow, even the tiniest bird brain has actual fun and is capable of practical jokes.
I always thought they were fighting because of how loud and energetic they are, until I built a feeding station just outside my window and saw them play and tease each other day in day out, especially the young ones.
It makes sense because without it they wouldn't be as good at spotting and getting away from hidden predators ambushing them, so those who do it procreate more because dead birds don't procreate nearly as much.
You should see them clown around on twigs that are just above the food. They actually work together to take it down and use it as an elevator. It's so funny and creative and you'd think it's just an accident, but they actually move to the right distance so their friend can get the food and in time they get better at estimating the distance where they have to land for the perfect lowering of the branch and they'll watch and wait until their friend is done taking food. I have seen it hundreds of times and never did one fly away before the one eating was done. The only fighting I see them do is when they argue whose turn it is. Brains are amazing, even the tiniest ones.
It's not honest science though.
What a powerhouse duo. Also "I never said she stole my money" blew my mind. I never thought of language that way
There are some Asian languages like Thai where if you change the inflection of a word it becomes a completely different word with a different meaning, so it gets more elaborate because language is so diverse. The Sepher Warf hypothesis is interesting, it asserts that the language one speaks shapes ones perceptions and way of understanding things.
You can do a similar fun one with "she told him that she loved him" and adding "Only" to that sentence at any point, and see how it changes the meaning.
"Only she told him that she loved him" vs "She told him that she loved only him" vs "She told only him that she loved him" ect
@@whatabouttheearth basically why modern English is so 'confusing'. It's by design. :)
@@lynxthewise7233 other languages are also like that. In Russian language, tone itself changes the entire meaning of the sentence
There’s a book called “the pun also rises” which explains how humor may have developed speech in humans and it’s incredibly interesting. Laughing may have developed our vocal chords and our ability to form puns requires complex language. Highly recommend
I can agree but it's also kind of a social byproduct, like bonding/group dynamics are not unique but the way we do it is. Like sarcasm for example is more a recycled tool in a different context. Just a change of tone but still very effictive but people on the spectrum for example might be an earlyer version by that logic, but i don't know my thinking might be simple and uneducated
@@badoem5353 If I ask for the answer to the riddle - "Whats a patch on a patch not a needlehole in sight?" - and you answer - "A cabage./Latvijas roads." - I know youre one of us.
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 who is us? lol
@@badoem5353 Latvieši obviously.
well what usually indicates a question, idk everything @@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
Thanks for making science fun, understandable and shareable.
thanks for supporting great content!
I love this comment!! Heck yeah!! Nothing has made me fall in love more with science than How the Universe Works and Forrest Valkai
and rich
This is not science! Lol. He and she just said we are primates. Lmaoooooo!
@@Kreationcreatures your whole life is a joke
I was going to finish hate watching a Paul and Morgan deconstruction, but a collab with Forrest and Gutsick is the stuff that unicorns would dream of.
Fundie Fridays?
Ah yes my fellow Jennonite.
Exact same, Josh. Going back to finish it now = Fundie Sunday! 😊
Hate watching.
I understand. 😶
@@richiejohnson I should clarify that the creator, fundie fridays, is terrific. But Paul and Morgan are awful, specifically Paul.
I was having a really bad day and Forests absolute enjoyment talking about the ones who only survived due to care from other members of their group put a smile on my face. Thank you for the video.
That one makes me upset because it's clear no one actually asked someone without teeth if they can eat without dentures. The answer is...oh absolutely. That guy did NOT need help from the group to eat his food. And even if for some reason he wasn't capable to grinding food with his gum bones, there's no reason why he wouldn't have been able to mash it himself.
Forrest please never stop doing what you do, you mean soo much to so many people always keep your enthusiasm and never doubt how important it is to learn.
I love gutsick gibbons stuff. Especially when she reacts to creationists content.
I partially agree. I love when she does stuff like this where she nerds out about her passions. I love watching people get passionate about things. The creationist content is definitely entertaining, though
This is so beautiful! We are but a simple piece of a massively varryious web of life, and I must say I'm ecstatic that I get the chance to experience and understand it. Thank you Forrest and Erica for everything you do! Such an awesome video!!!!
It’s really does seem like one big mixed up pot of life, doesn’t it?
That was one of the biggest shifts in my mindset regarding fossils. There are no _special_ transitional forms. Literally every fossil and species is a transitional form.
@@nasonguy To what purpose? Sounds like Pantheism; just sayin’
@@kenjohnson5124 What does Pantheism have to do with my comment about the fossil record?
@@kenjohnson5124 There is nothing pantheistic about their comment.
This highlights why it is so silly when politicians ask "What is a woman?"
Many categories that we use on a regular basis aren't as cut and dried as we would like to think.
Like "fish" for example. There is no definition of "fish" that includes all fish and excludes all non-fish.
(Yes, I realize that "fish" isn't a taxonomic classification)
Mainly because each species of "fish" is more closely related to a non-fish species than to another fish species 😅😅
Biology is far more complex than such as simple question, "what is a woman?"
@@danielcrafter9349 Yes, an entire field of scientific study is more complex than a single question.
Did that really need to be said?
As an "just ok ape" I want to thank for including us, we are forgotten so often.
It's really interesting seeing the evolutionary history and connections of the human. As a fan of history, it's like a lore to human changes. Awesome collab, you two!
Even more collabs! so happy to see my two favorite science youtubers working together so much recently.
Yes it's a wonderful experience to their poetry(passion) in motion
never before have I been so persuaded by a sponsor segment - the sheer energy and honest love for learning is insane
I skipped this, only short humerious one get me to stick arround, also goat guns is the one most close to working but no, Ive never bought anything from any comercial.
This video is the biggest gem to the entirety of UA-cam. Thank you for making this! This honestly makes me tear up in comfort. 😭❤️
This was insanely good. Y'all belong teaching together!
Seriously absolutely fantastic
The overarching vibe of phlubhblub... Human speech. =)
Such a great tempo to approach science. It's exciting to know the things we know and infer endlessly, but even more exciting to think about that which we have yet to discover.
You two nailed it. I've been sending material like this to all my younger cousins, nieces and nephews not only because of the content, but because it makes science exciting.
Please, keep this up.
That "I never said she stole my money" sequence was amazing. It's a simple concept we all get, bit hearing it laid out in plain English is awesome.
I stan these two. They are the dream teamn the dynamic duo. The heros we need but don't deserve.
my two favorite science UA-camrs in one video if i believed in heaven this would be it
"Plant a garden, grill a steak, and be kind to one another." Simple, concise, and effective. You don't necessarily have to grill a steak, but I can't think of a better mantra.
Agreed. Pretty good mantra otherwise indeed.
"We take chances, we make mistakes, we get messy."
SEATBELTS EVERYONE!!!!!
This was an amazing video an how evolution works and how natural selection worked on small characteristics making us move further and further apart from our relatives. But I think that this journey would not be complete without a "part 2" about the characteristics that we lost on they way.
I am still mindblown by an experiment I watched a few years back. Chimps and human kids were given a box that had many buttons and levers. They were taught the right order to push them in order to open the box. On the second part of the experiment, the box was transparent showing that all that lever and button pushing was pointless. The chimps examined the box and just pushed the one button that can open it. Human children on the other hand never critically examined the box, they just followed what they were taught.
This made me think that we are not really smarted than them, we just do things in a way that is more beneficial.
New book dropped, Featherless Biped: Behold a Man. I believe it was written by the guy who sleeps in the poultry isle at the grocery store.
I was looking for this reference lol
The video the people did not know they needed. Thanks to you both.
This was fantastic! I could easily see this played in a biology class to get students thinking about the intricacies between different classifications. It was understandable, specific, broad, clear, and a million other things. Thank you for this fantastic video!
Youve made me remember Trey the explainers video about the blind, partly deaf, cant run and hurts to walk old achient human.
I just watched your interview with Seth, and i can go right back to enjoy you two nerding out together!! Amazing, i'm hyped 💜👏🏻
Both of your passion is infectious! Wonderfully informative video, thank you SO much!!!!
Agree 100 pro cent
Pro was intended lol
Here is a question for anybody: Do you think the uncanny valley we experience when seeing animated humans is what our ancestors experienced when seeing other Hominids? Maybe the uncanny valley caused violence…what are your thoughts?
Good question
An interesting point of speculation. But we do know that our ancestors interbred with Neanderthals and Denisovans, so they couldn't have been that freaked out by them. Or are you thinking even further back?
@@AlbertaGeekI’m not sure, but I think that it may have something to do with the dangers that other hominids posed.
Bro the “I never said she stole my money” thing is something I’ve told to multiple people for years
I’m glad someone else uses that😂
It’s so bizarre see Erika without her saying “Hello my gentle and modern apes” before she starts talking about primates
As always, you two shine from the excitement you convey while explainig these topics. Great collaboration, thanks a lot!
Yall got me all chocked up at the end of this 1 got damn it
Erika and Forrest are to my liking to biology to what mitochondria are to cells. Also, poor Mr. Rainbows, the magic space dog… I hope his paw is okay.
What a great collaboration. Congratulations Forrest and Erica.
Eeek! Barely into the intro, and already thrilled! Two of my favorite science folks!
But, but, why are there still monkeys?!
@@uncleanunicorn4571 They don't live around here, and I'm not hungry.
@@uncleanunicorn4571 There aren't actually.
I love every single video of you both working together.
I wish you would've brought up Koko crying and signing that she was sad at the sad part of her favorite movie. She turned around so she didn't have to watch it. That would've been a great addition during the "feeling across time and even for fictional characters" thing.
As chronically alone person, the part about injured, probably well beyond the amount that would keep him functional and equally contributing to his group - neanderthal that was allowed grace and care somehow brought tears to my eyes. Thank You for the awesome work you do, for promoting love, knowledge and understanding. I firmly believe we are able to rise above bigotry.
Some people like to think humans are unique and there's nothing like us in the universe and that makes us special. I think it's more special to know how we evolved from other animals into us. Now that's mind-blowing!!
Forrest is treating us *good* this week!
Long May it continue
Good and bad are RELATIVE. 😉
Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱
I wish I had science teachers like you two when I was younger. I’m glad as an old man I can learn new things from such great people as yourselves. Keep it up!
past humans took care of the injured.. present humans kick them out of their home cause they are no longer productive and they don't deserve to live. they can't 'earn' a living, hence they are considered worthless. we've sunk so deep.
Well that's a good point, but it doesn't have to be that way. Mutual aid is a good start.
So excited to see a collab from two of my favorite channels! I took an introductory human evo class last year as part of my science requirements (I'm a humanities major lol) and the examination of human origins and its definitions is absolutely fascinating, and I've really only scratched the surface! I think the inherent unity of mankind is a really special part of that and a brilliant note to end the video on :)
I love this collaboration between you two. I hope you can do more of these and perhaps expand out to include specialists in other related fields.
This is the most poetic description of a human.
I love how Erika snuck in "kind"! 🏆
I am a huge fan of both Forrest and Gutsick Gibbon. This is a dream collab.
NGL I felt for Mr. Rainbow's hurt paw or the soft squishee food they chewed for love. 💕
Your reaction to both of those things was very human.
Amazing piece and that ending was absolutely beautiful
I feel no shame what so ever in saying: this video brought me to literal tears. The passion of these two, along with our beatiful evolutionary history is just so humbling.
I really appreciate all that you both do. Thank you for making science accessible and understandable to us non-sciencey people.
These two are becoming my favorite youtubers very quickly. Science rulez!!
Science is the best exploratory mechanism we have to decipher reality
Always satisfying to listen to two erudite , intelligent & educated educators.... as opposed to blinkered religiotarts.
"Just another difference of degree, but not one of kind." This is something I've been thinking about a lot lately. This was such a good video thanks so much guys
This made my day, that altruism om such a prevalent scale is something that makes us human. Thanks for making this video.
This was the most emotionally impacting and inspiring thing I've seen from either of you two. Really well done.
This is why I love this man he breaks science and biology down to a level most of us can understand and makes me realize that if each one of us just took a minute and where kind to not just other humans but everything our world would be so much better
this video is nothing short of incredible
Ooo, Forrest and Erika, two of my favorite YT'ers, collabing? This is fantastic!
Such an inspirational story, truly. It's so awe inspiring to look at the lives of our ancestors and know that we have felt love, kinship and sympathy for a shared struggle long before any modern homo sapiens began to conquer the known world. Grateful to you both for providing such a succinct overview of such a grand history.
Forrest might be my favorite science communicator, he reminds me of Mr.Flemming, he was my sixth grade science teacher, he's the reason I started loving science, taught me to play chess and ask as many questions as I was allowed, and then push the limit. The passion Forrest has for what he does is genuinely inspiring.
Okay who ordered existential hope? Never thought I'd actually shed a tear in one of Forrest's videos. Thank the universe for people as fired up and passionate about things while also creating interest and passion in others.
excellent video! Always love learning about prehistoric human history!
Gutsick Gibbon! Omg this is amazing! Best Collab ever :D
Y’all are two of my faves! I love your enthusiasm and it makes learning so much easier.
My compliments. This was very well put together as an overview. Saved it and will get back to it.
Note: Your last video about responding to AiG didn't pop anywhere in my feeds or my sub list... odd... But: Love getting a day where I get to binge Forrest in 3 vids AND I get to see 2 different collabs with Gibbon who I also recently got suggested to.
Love this collaboration! Thank you both!!!
Gutsick Gibbon is such a badass. She speaks with such passion that she gets me excited about what I previously considered minutia that I never used to care about.
Thanks for the clearest and most concise explanation I have ever heard on this topic.
FINALLY A COLLAB with Forrest and Erika!!! Yes!!!!!!
Can’t believe creationist trolls haven’t invaded the comment section
Amazing synthesis of tons of cool facts, analysis and honest evaluation of what we don't know.
I'm a biologist and this video simply made me tear up. Damn you two.
We survived because of 1 thing: being weird 🥃
Amazing work. One thing that blows my mind is that genes for tails are still in us, but we've adapted that section of code to get ignored.
That variance on a sentence concerning speech was amazing.
So for the past year I've been wanting you two to do a video together, and holy crap you two did an amazing job together (and loved you two on the other channels you've been on together).
Loved this collab. I follow you both and I've learned a lot from you. Thx
What a masterpiece!! I can't fully express how much I enjoyed this and how it made me think and feel. Thank you both so much!!!
you guys are some of my favourite youtubers, hope to see more vids from you both working together.
if i had you guys as teachers back in the 80s would definitely paid more attention in science. lots of love from this old aussie.
They addressed this in Star Trek, TNG.
Humans/earthlings are "ugly bags of mostly water"!
And according to Voyager, we'll become basically mud skippers down the line.
And that episode hurt my head so much, even as a teen when I saw it, I was saying "that's not how evolution works"
Thank you both for not only taking the time and care to make this video, but all of the others that you have made as well. I have been feeling lately that the prospect of bringing education and logical thinking to people by any means is a pipe dream, but it is heartening to see the efforts that less-jaded-than-me folks are still making.
Amazing video, so comprehensive and engaging. Best of the educators in UA-cam, keep it coming!
This is a wonderful mix of intelligent educators. More please.
The homo sapien can be separated from other sub species of greater apes by if you put pineapple on pizza.
Thanks for this. Appreciate the collaboration between two people who are so enthusiastic about their work.
Gutsick Gibbon’s depth of knowledge in her field is seriously impressive! Great idea to have her on the channel I’ve followed her content for a while now
I'm about to go back to college to study science. I'm not sure which route to go down but I've always loved chemistry