Scientist Reacts to "6 Reasons Not to Believe in Evolution" | Reacteria
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- Forrest Valkai, an evolutionary biologist who teaches science on the internet, embarks on a quest to endure videos from people who claim everything he studied in college is wrong. Will he be convinced by creationist claims? Or will he remain steadfast in his study of science? Let's find out!
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Your tailbone actually does do something, it causes lots of pain when you land on it
perhaps most useful organ
@@petar14 nah. That'd be your funny bone.
and you can make juvenile jokes with it's technical name
Sometimes temporary paralysis; at least I hope it's sometimes( I only landed on mine once.)!
@@zemorph42 I have heard of that lol
Saying that nonlinear history of horse evolution disproves evolution is like saying having cousins proves you didn't descend from your grandfather.
If your family tree ain't a straight line
is it really a family tree?
It makes me wonder what Butt thinks about our species having become what it is today by having absorbed several other species of proto-humans? I have quite a few Neanderthal genes. Some don't really play well with their H. sapiens counterparts. My sweating more from exertion and less ability to flush, coupled with sweating less, and more ability to flush, actually cause me to become overheated easily. I guess he would just be unable to understand recombinant genetics within reproduction as an additional proof of Evolution.
@@goldencalf13 Butt's family tree is a circle.
@@injunsun I have a lot of neanderthal genes too and I have the same problem with heat and exertion. I also have a very large (and short) frame so fitting clothes is difficult. My wrists and hands are huge. I can't even fit a blood pressure collar around my arm and I don't work out.
No brow ridge or knuckle dragging, sorry. But I might be the missing link creationists are looking for!
@@goldencalf13 Sweet home Alabama
I remembered a meme that goes something like that:
Scientists: Our discoveries are wortless if taken out of context.
Media: Scientists claim thier discoveries are worthless.
Pretty much describes most of this guy's claims xD
My teacher always explained it like this: In order for a theory to become fact you would have to prove your experiment works every time everywhere under every condition. You would have to repeat the experiment an infinite amount of times.
Unfortunately she was wrong. A “fact” as you described it would be a law. A theory never becomes a law or a fact. There is nothing about theory
Love how he says "or RNA if you're an RNA-based creature". Really inclusive to us viruses and bacteria
Do Bacteria use RNA? I thought it was DNA, cause RNA needs to be replicable.
Squids have RNA too
@@withlessAsbestos No bacterium uses RNA for storage, only for transcription. Some viruses do use RNA for storage.
@@commscan314 Everything uses RNA for transcription tho.
@@withlessAsbestos I know that, I was just saying what RNA is used for in all currently living organisms. Though is is possible that at one point RNA was used for storage, all current cellular organisms use it exclusively for transcription.
My mom used to take me out of school when we were learning about evolution… now I’m an environmental biologist :)
woot, glad you were able to still learn even against your parent's wishes.
Snakes cannot survive in places where the ground stays frozen year round, right?
Right, Appy, and evolution perfectly explains how comes.
You're in for a ride, BriS. Appy is the champion of meaningless questions and stupid arguments. This gem is his:
Leaking bicycle tubes prove that our Solar System couldn't have formed by natural means.
Beached whales are outside of their comfort zone, right?
@@marknieuweboer8099 i know this is late but are you smelling burnt toast
As someone who was raised a homeschooled creationist I appreciate you teaching real science well making fun those wackos
Real science where?
@@Viicebec umm in the video? Duh.
@@willsavoy172 100% of what he said in the video is imagination. Nowhere did he describe how any complex molecule required for life could originate without an almighty God. Evolutionists have spent hundreds of dollars in million dollar labs but yet cannot even imagine how it could be possible. They have not be able to make even one protein, the amino acids, a sugar, and RNA or a DNA that could be used for life.
@@willsavoy172 where boy? lmao ...
@@Black-Circlein the video?
That forearm tendon gives me good memories. My older brother is super into biology and he once pointed out that I had it and he didn’t, saying I was a “mutant” lol.
He’s actually the one who told me about this little fun fact so I hit him back with “…technically you’re the mutant”
One of the hardest laughs we’ve had together to this day
One of my favorite niche types of content is "exasperated scientists trying to explain their area to people who don't believe in science."
"exasperated engineers playing building games" and "exasperated pilots reviewing plane movies and aviation '"fact"' videos" are also really nice.
same
Honestly yeah.
@@kirara4953 lmaoo
“Experts debunking non-experts who think they’re not idiots”
"Evolution isn't an inventor, it's a tinkerer." I've never heard it put as plainly as that and I love it.
A blind tinkerer with a penchant for sadism
@@SorenPenrose why he gotta stick me with this carrot top looking hairstyle
That's Richard Dawkins. He's written many excellent books on the subject.
but a spider, centipede, humans, and worms all live on land that's why they're almost the same. same design so same designer.
It’s a great description that I’ve never heard before, either.
19:17 Mutations absolutely do give new information. My PhD work is mutating genes in bacteria to incorporate non canonical amino acids to confer novel functions to proteins. I literally see mutations giving new information every single day 😂
Mark has no idea what he’s talking about.
Also the gene that produces antifreeze in blood a certain Arctic fish resulted from (a) a chance duplication of a gene and (b) a mutation in the duplicate.
Yes! Every mutation that results in an ATG sequence (probability = 1/64; 64 = 4 x 4 x 4) creates a new information.
just second it gives formation but the obstacle is this mutation functional I know that some mutation give functional prt but its rare and even we are talk about thousands of genes should make functional or positive mutation at same time to have this change is that happened ??
It's seriously daft. It's akin to claiming that new books can't contain any new information because it's just the same letters from the other book in a different order 🙄
I think the fact that I rarely see athiests blocking/erasing comments on videos, while I regularly see the religious apologists blocking/erasing comments (yes, I'm looking at you William Lane Craig) speaks volumes to how much stock either side puts into their points.
do you know Dean Kenyon
an evoutionist who became a Creationist
ua-cam.com/video/jrXf8KCJLMg/v-deo.html&ab_channel=BibleDiscoveryTV
who are you compared to Him??
"Or RNA if you're an RNA-type creature"
Thank you for being inclusive to us RNA-type creatures, much love.
As a reptilian blob of cancer I agree.
Ah yes, the humble Taco, a famous RNA-type creature
Right? I thought this was going to be a prestigious DNA-type creature video.
I wonder if we TUNA types will ever have recognition, sad.
You have to have both DNA and RNA, because they are interdependent
I think it's important to understand that evolution isn't just upgrading an animal. An animal doesn't choose to develop wings or stronger eyes. Pressures from the environment and competition between animals, along with random mutations, change structures and if those new structures provide a path to survival and reproduction, these structures persist.
Remember they also persist if they don't hinder reproduction in any way too, a lot in our bodies is evidence of that
Or random mutations
Survival of the one who can carve out the niche, not the fittest
Survival of the good enough
These structures TEND to persist more than others. And I know you are essentially saying the same thing but I believe a lot of religious people don’t really understand how blind evolution is. They substitute the mind and teleology from the god of their religion into evolution and then assert that it doesn’t make sense based off of doing so. Evolution is not just another system of design used by something with a goal - it’s a series of accidents that eventually produce persisting advantages and humans are the result of that often wasteful, absurd process. This is a point I’ve found deniers aren’t often aware of.
To be fair, the guy's name is Kyle Butt, what did anyone really expect?
Yup, Butt talking out of his ass.
do you know Dean Kenyon
an evoutionist who became a Creationist
ua-cam.com/video/jrXf8KCJLMg/v-deo.html&ab_channel=BibleDiscoveryTV
who are you compared to Him??
Had to take a second take 😅
at least that person wasn't me. denying evolution is just dumb we can prove it with pathogens.
I hate how people think that you can only believe in God or science. There are plenty of us that believe in both. It makes me sad to hear 2 groups that are a big part of me fight each other.
The Catholic Church is very much into science, since the 1600 century and more so today. Many priests have advanced degrees in many disciplines. The Vatican has two observatories and another in Arizona on a 15,000 foot high mountain. This telescope is the first of its kind in design as well and is highly regarded. Priest astronomers and astrophysicists, plus secular scientists use this telescope as well. Our Gregorian calendar was invented by the Jesuit Order and signed by Pope Gregory to replace the previous faulty calendar ( I’ve forgotten its name ) . The Big Bang idea of the Universe’s beginning was from an Astrophysicist Priest Georges Lemaitre who passed away in the 1990’s from cancer unfortunately. He knew Einstein as well.
So true!
how in both the question is that science
Fuck it, you're wrong
Now I am imagining a mad scientist putting tons and tons of uranium next to a fruit fly and screaming at it “EVOLVE EVOLVE WHY WONT YOU EVOLVE!”
I read it in Rick Sanchez's voice XD
I now imagine that the mad scientist is working with Professor Oak.
But the fruit fly will never turn into URANIUM.....its like the difference between a bird and a fly.. A bird can fly but a fly will never be able to bird....It doesn't make sense
Just like how a human can fish but a fish can't human. It just doesn't seem to work that way, at least not unless you dive into the twilight zone.
Jacob Griffin please stop giving me aneurisms
Them: "My body isn't a prison!"
Me: Oh yeah? Try leaving it. Go on, I'll wait.
well, you can also be locked in your room, or in a bathroom. a prison holds cells with inmates. you body doesn't
The inmate is the soul/life. But it is also a play on words for fun.
Oh you are trying to make a real point. And I thought it was a joke.
You underestimate my power
I guess dreams are the closest to leaving your body and entering your mind
These are the kinds of videos we used to be shown in Sunday School growing up in the 80s. Back then, there wasn't much we could do to debunk them and just had to accept them at face value (which was the purpose). I'm surprised that these things are still out there since they can be so easily debunked with an IPhone.
The minute I heard Kyle Butt's voice and his arguments straight from his surname I knew this is going to be wild.
“Evolution isn’t an inventor it’s a tinkerer” is a perfect way to describe it
Similarly, it's not survival of the fittest, it's survival of the just good enough. That to me really explains extinction. If you fall below the "good enough" line, you are on your way out.
Unfortunately it isn't. For a creationist to understand evolution, we'd have to reduce all of the words to single syllabled words that don't go further than a 3rd grade reading level. So tinkerer and inventor are too complicated, and, in the case of "argumentative" creationists who think they can debunk evolution, "Don't they mean the same thing? Both make things."
@@stevemack7110 SO TRUE!!! As a medical student, I'm constantly finding things in the body that basically work well enough, but NO intelligent person would ever design and eye, nervous system...etc... like we have. It works, so why fix it, that's nature's motto.
@@stevemack7110 no, it's survival of the fittest. "Fittest" is referring to biological fitness aka reproductive success. You're using fittest as an adjective for function.
@@MrMancreatedgod and again, it’s not “fittest.” It’s “fit enough”. If something has enough offspring to keep going, then it “passes” evolution. You may be right that it isn’t about function, but the main point still stands: evolution isn’t a graded assignment, it’s pass/fail.
I used to be a young earth creationist and I was completely shocked once I started learning science from outside of what my Christian school taught me. I felt so betrayed and lied to over and over again when I looked up each topic and realised the science was so different to what I had been told it was.
I am amazed that any developed country would allow creationism to be taught without any critical questioning, The U.S is a truly strange place..
@@nuckleknight2 I've heard the US is similar. My education was in Australia. We're a fairly secular country but our politicians are mostly religious and a large amount of them go to the same church lol
@@nuckleknight2 It's a natural consequence of allowing private education.
Since most low to upper-middle class nonreligious and moderate religious parents are perfectly happy sending their kids to (well-funded) public schools, the main market for private education and home schooling is to serve the needs of a cultish few who assume that public education is detrimental enough to spend tens of thousands to keep them out of it.
We might think that faith based schools are more harm than good but removing them would be a political dumpster fire because it'd be broadly unpopular and eliminate whole industries. (Also unconstitutional if it doesnt apply to non faith-based private schools)
Hope that helps
@@alwayslearningtech It is similar here in the US. Many members of Congress are associated with "K Street" which is publicly described as a prayer group but it is way more than that. It's actually kind of frightening just what the group does and how strong its influence is. There is no better example of just how strong Evengelical Christianity's stranglehold on the US government is.
@@Shoobster that is fairly true, though some rich parents just think that private schools are better than rich public schools, at least here in Australia because our top public schools aren't anything like what I imagine they are in the US. My parents were not wealthy by any standard and they were paying off the debt for sending their 9 kids to a Christian private school years after all their kids graduated.
I've made decent money throughout part of my adult life so I've helped give them a step up financially which none of my Ultra religious siblings have done. I think the cognitive dissonance between what they believe an atheist should be and how I behave is truly confusing to them.
I grew up in Alabama, so I was barely taught about evolution in high school, and when we were taught about it, it was painted in a very sarcastic light.
Creationists really out here saying that evolution and god can’t both exist
SMH
"That's not how anything works." Truly love that phrase.
Correct, evolution is not how it worked
@@michaeld9682 nice. You know what they actually meant but like the mental child you are you decided to pretend they meant something else.
@@SevenPr1me and his statement didn't even make any sense.
"Evolution is not how it worked"
“That’s why no one is saying that!” is my favorite
@@SevenPr1me just throw a billion years at it. Maybe your comment will evolve into something more... intelligent
I’m surprised they just haven’t fully adopted “God designed evolution” and left it at that…
Would really make things easier for everyone.
That is the position of Catholics and many other Christians: the process is what biologist say. What Catholics add is that the process has a purpose. Creationists are minority view however noisy they get.
Well then they wouldn't be creationist. And they forgey that the church had a ton of people that over the years have been working on evolutionary stuff
but the bible thumping nutcases want it their way so they can say "X is wrong cause its not in a book written centuries ago"
It would, but evolution- natural selection and the cruel yet neutral aspect of nature- is along the lines of naturalism, which doesn’t align with the idea that we were intentionally designed with love. It also dismantles the idea of us being created perfectly, since our bodies aren’t perfect, and really challenges the idea that we have so called “souls”
Robert T. Bakker
watching your thought process in coming up with the title reacteria is amazing
i think the bible should also have a sticker like that
saying
this is fictional
believe in your own risk
"We should see wings that can't fly but almost can"
Flightless birds have entered the chat.
I scroll up and see him feeding an emu...
But emus and ostriches are birds that lost their wings and not the precursor to flying birds.
There we are back at Archeopteryx, the feathered dinosaur.
I'd think about flying-squires, afaik they cant really fly but who knows in 100.000 years some of their descendents might?
@@NaliTikva *descendants
@@sharathsh9987 yeah you're right
Being able to jump and glide away from predators is a lot more advantageous than running into a deep stream or wall of foliage and being quickly devoured.
Great video! My father went 'evolution is just a theory' this weekend, my brain almost died. Had to explain the difference between layman theory and scientist theory to an almost 70-year old man!
Be kind to your dad. I'm 67 and have managed to get through most of my life without a meaningful knowledge of biology. My working life has been in the fields of electronics and computer science and it's been only recently that I've started to explore the work of Richard Dawkins, Jared Diamond and Stephen Gould etc.
@@ianmitchell1509 I will be, don’t worry. Sometimes, he’s just a little too Christian for me 😂 I still love him!
😅
Interesting that I don't have these problems with my family; just a few friends though.
The coronavirus is evolving right in front of our faces.
@@klu9839 the people who don’t believe in evolution most likely don’t believe in Corona either.
My inner conspiracy theorist thinks one of the reasons we haven't started to colonize other planets is because creationists know that humans on different planets would rapidly evolve into different species of human and it would completely kill the creationist argument. Again, it's a conspiracy theory. I'm aware it's nonsensical.
Truly one of the theories of all time 👍
I remember in high school when I told a girl her brown eyes were a mutation, since both of her parents had either green or blue eyes. Another kid spoke up and added that her mom may have cheated 🫠
19:36. I'm glad you included us RNA based lifeforms. People often neglect us, saying things like "you're too basic to understand" or "Your kind's too primitive to understand the current political climate" I really appreciate the mention.
Sincere Regards.
Ribosome.
This made my day.
big fan ribosome
RNA organisms never have existed. You are thus an imposter
Too bad you can't actually self replicate like secular scientists claim you can. Evolutionists never state their experiments factually...
@@benrose671 when did “secular scientists” claim that ribosomes can self replicate (?)
I’ve actually started using the term hypothesis instead of theory in my everyday life when talking about ideas I have.
Why's that? Because of Darwin's ridiculous hypothesis? 😆
@@7ate992The only person being ridiculous is you, who probably didn't even read the book by yourself.
@@7ate992That emoji really elevates your opinion
@@7ate992"The man I have never seen, met, heard, smelt or touched, and only have knowledge of from a book and from what other people have told me, made everything and caused everything to happen. Sounds about right"
@7ate992 tell me you don't understand evolution without telling me you don't understand evolution
19:45 "If you're a rna type creature" this man is so good he can even get viruses to watch him
Hey, I’m an rna type alien creature with biology so unfamiliar you may not recognize me as life, not all of us our viruses
Back when I was thinking of making more of my terrible videos, the "warning sticker" organized disinformationists were putting on science textbooks was one I planned on addressing, sort of. I was actually thinking of the "warning: this food is a GMO" label that fearmongers were pushing for, but it's the exact same thing. I remember, at the time, reaching for a can of Amp energy drink on my desk, looking at the ingredients list, and finding "sodium hexametaphosphate" on it. Yes, it's been almost ten years and I remember that, no idea how.
My point was going to be that I _could_ start a campaign to demand that the manufacturers put "Warning: contains sodium hexametaphosphate!" on the cans. But why, though? What does a warning label imply? There's nothing dangerous or remarkable about... I'm not gonna keep writing it, let's just call it Hexy. There's nothing dangerous about Hexy, but the _presence_ of a warning label, by itself, would make people afraid. After all... why would there be a warning if it was harmless?
If you went to a store and picked up a can and there was a bright red sticker on it that read: "Warning Contains Sodium Hexametaphosphate", what would you do? Put the can back, probably.
If you pick up completely normal, functional, safe, and inexpensive food and there was a bright red sticker on it that read: "Warning Product of GMOs", what would you do? Think "wow is GM food dangerous or something?" and pick up lower-quality "organic" food at five times the price, because that was the fearmongers' game to destroy their competition and make bank.
If you pick up a textbook about science and it said "Warning: This Book Contains Facts And Evidence That Lead To A Reality-Based View Of Reality", the only end result would be that anti-intellectual child abusers would get to keep their kids misinformed and indoctrinated, because EXACTLY like the anti-GM crowd, the end goal is to destroy a competitor they stand no change to defeat fairly.
Back in the real world, evolution is real no matter which superstitious belief about invisible space ghost wizards you happen to be dragged into by unfit parents, genetically-modified food are completely and utterly safe to eat no matter what the peddlers of the *_marketing scheme_* that pretends to be some sort of "healthier alternative" calling themselves "Bio" or "Organic" foods might want you to think, and sodium hexametaphosphate is just some kind of emulsifier used in basically everything you eat and drink that doesn't have dirt on it or come directly from a stream. Seriously, Wikipedia has a _short paragraph_ on its uses as a food additive and I struggle to think of a kind of food that isn't in there.
Remember McCarthyism? "Don't ask if there are Communists in the White House, ask _how many_ Communists are in the White House, because that implies it's more than zero."
Don't ask _IF_ there's any reason to put a warning label on basic well-supported scientific ideas, just force a label on there to imply that it's bad so that adults who shouldn't be allowed to have children can get angry for no good reason at things they'll never understand.
“We should see wings that can’t fly but almost can.” Archaeopteryx had wings that would not be physically possible to support any sort of extended flight, but allowed for some gliding and jumping around. Not as part of some future plan to become birds, but because that sort of approximation of flight was advantageous. Like flying squirrels, they had a sort of “wings that can’t fly but almost can”
Edit: A lot of y'all are replying and listing birds that evolved flightlessness after their ancestors evolved flight. Penguins, chickens, and ostriches are not examples of this. Their ancestors could fly, and penguins do not approximate flight at all; their wings have adapted to have entirely different purposes. (Sidenote because I'm a nerd: despite ostriches and emus being somewhat closely related, their common ancestor actually could fly and they separately evolved flightlessness)
Yup. Plus feathered wings offers great warmth and protect for a clutch of eggs.
@@shanewilson7994 A lot of folks say chickens "can't fly" but I beg to differ. Long flight, obviously not...but I have watched my chickens graze high up on the hill in the clearing and they get a running start of the rocks up there and fly over 100 yards down the hill to our yard...and the elevation is around 13 feet for most of the ride until they hit the valley and at the highest would be something around 30 feet. I consider that flight...because that is what we did when we first discovered flight...well that and plowing into the ground and random buildings and dying. So far not a single bird of ours has been killed or died flying...though a couple have sprained their legs.
@@Kai-Made omg i love hearing stories about peoples chickens! they are always do funny and hilariously cute to imagine. 😂 slso that bit about spraining legs is giving off the same energy as “kids jump of a moving swing and get hurt when landing” and I cannot get over the mental image of the chickens being like children who dared each other to go the farthest 🥰😂😂😂
@@Kai-Made: Those that die can be put to tasty good use. Chickens are remarkable birds. I grew up in a family that raised chickens and rabbits. We stopped because no one wanted to do the necessary hard part - killing them. This was the late 50s and business was, as I recall, good.
I think we call those "flying squirrels."
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”
― Mark Twain
Yeah all of a sudden they all have a PHD in science... more like Permanent Head Damage 🤪
Its better to keep you mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt
-Abe Lincoln
I have to say, no. I think he does an admirable job of destroying bibleboy's ridiculous arguments. It's also instructive: "here's how you use search engines to find data that proves/disproves claims, and here's what to look for". Note that babbleboy seems a bit on the thick side, so he's likely to come up with some random BS and not be able to understand the concepts used to disprove his statements.
Only stupid people accept evolutionism as science.
@@sombodysdad "Evolutionism" 🐒🤣
Forrest has all the genetic / evolutionary truths at his fingertips. He expresses them well and makes creationists look ridiculous. What a guy !
I recently caught your interview with Seth on The Thinking Atheist. Great interview!! This is the first video of yours I have watched, and I love your presentation technique and methodology.
My reaction when the guy in the video started explaining the 1st reason was: "Oh so you don't understand evolution." It's ok to admit you don't understand something. It's not ok to say that something you don't understand is wrong. This guy just doesn't know what he's talking about. Btw, by "this guy" I mean the one claiming evolution is fake.
I wouldn't dip into personal attacks, but I make an exception for Mr. Butt
@@markjacobson8878 I knew who the man with the "evidences" was the moment I heard his voice. This Butt speaker is an example of the Dunning-Krueger effect on steroids.
@@alflyle9955 I haven’t watched the video yet. Is it Chemist John Pendilton? I hope it’s him. He always has the best terrible evidences.
Edit: it wasn’t. Now I’m sad. This guy does seem to have the same evidences though. And grammatical errors. Verbs are not nouns.
@@murdermyinsanity Not Pendleton. It was Kyle Butt. There was a hint in my earlier post. :)
This guy is hopelessly indoctrinated. Beyond any repair. He lies and makes up answers for problems. He is a creationist, which should say enough on its own.
Butttt.....
Kyle Butt
You're the biologist I want to be when I grow up
best of luck!! :)
Hope ur dreams come true. Have a good day
Who says God isnt a scientist?
@@I_am_Nathan what
I'm 30 and I feel like I might be older than him but same.
The Exodus myth began to unravel when in 1822, French linguist Jean-François Champollion, with the aide of the Rosetta Stone in the British Museum, discovered the secret of deciphering ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics. That created the science of Egyptology and set off a wave of archaeological expeditions to Egypt.
What they found was that the Egyptians had recorded virtually every aspect of Egyptian life; cattle sales, marriage contracts, magical incantations and curses, work details, grocery lists, all the details of daily life. One of the primary aims of those expeditions was to find support for the Exodus story. After many years of searching, it became apparent that there is none.
The beginning felt like a rick and morty interdeminsional cable epsiode
Forest, you are too kind. You give these people the benefit of the doubt.
This guy is a disingenuous weasel.
I was thinking the exact same thing!😊
Good ol' Kyle Butt... He is definitely either stupid, lying, or, most likely... Both.
His name, tho x'D "Kyle Butt" ... Nomen est omen.
I strongly believe that this dude is lying, and that he knows he is lying. But you can make a lot of money by lying.
You mean like Darwin ?
From what I was told (years ago in school) science uses "theory" as the epitome of knowledge because it's ALWAYS willing to admit it's wrong and always prepared to change.
Of course, that’s the best way to describe the use of the word.
well ye
I don't feel like the scientists who adopted the word were really aiming for that. You should be confident in a theory, as it represents what should be an accurate model.
@@puppieslovies Yeah, but it’s the best way to describe the use of it.
Theory comes from Greek Theoria, meaning "contemplation or speculation". Which in turn comes from the Greek Theoros meaning "spectator".
Facts and Laws comes from observations of a phenomenon, but the theory is the underpinning of "how and why" such a phenomena takes place.
Whenever Theists argue to me that "such and such is just a theory", I always come back with that explanation, and that Newton's Law of Gravity is just the math that shows gravity attracts, but that the Theory of General Relativity is WHY gravity is an attractive force.
I never went to college and always felt i was missing a key experience from the environment of a physical campus - and watching your videos i'm learning how to think more critically and analytically about other areas of my life as well. Its little lessons like these i think i really missed out on college.
to the "why dont we see half a wing" part:
we do dont we? we have a lot of animals that have wings that are not used to fly! ostriches, chickens, kiwis, penguins etc etc. there are fishes living in caves that have eyes that are not being used. that are "half a wing" or "half an eye". they are still there but the new enviroment or biological niche made them useless and they "deteriorate" over time.
to the "mutations dont gives us new information" part:
why the heck do bacteria get resistent to antibiotics then if mutations don't give us new informations
This "mutations can't cause new things to arise" argument is like saying "new books with new ideas can't happen, since we only have 27 letters and can't create new ones"
27?
@@1984potionlover 26 * lmao
When you drop a stone in a well, you lose information about exactly where the stone was released. This is entropy, the general trend that we have less information at the end then at the beginning. When a volcano spits out stones, they all start at the same place, but randomly fall at many different places. Randomness is how we can get information increases.
All the information we have, the universe, may have started as a random vacuum fluctuation in whatever is outside the universe.
@@Galaxia7 lol 27 letters is an even better analogy
If words come from letters, why are there still letters? Answer me that, science boy!
i am conditioned to ‘roll my eyes’ when I hear people say “It is just a theory”. People who say that have no understanding what. a scientific theory is.
You believe the scientific impossibility that nothing created everything?
@@cornbreaddiabetic4615 nope
@@CTJ2619 that means evolution is impossible and everything was created
@@cornbreaddiabetic4615 no it doesn’t sorry
@@cornbreaddiabetic4615 no
is so funny to see the process of forrest coming to the conclusion that the series will be called reacteria
Forrest, you are a sweetheart man and I appreciate your videos so much. Got me thinking of my faith now
“We should see animals with wings that don’t quite work yet”
Flying squirrels would like a word with you
and Flying Fish.
@@L.Ron_Dow I'm sorry flying what?
You haven't seeing flying fish?
UA-cam is your friend and an will you be pleased with the result.
Or (granted its kinda the other direction) stuff like the wild ancestors to chickens. They are terrible fliers and can at most get up a tree.
Ostriches and penguins maybe?
All flightless birds have wings that "don't quite work yet"
I learned more about what evolution *actually* is in 30 minutes than I did from 12 years of public school in Alabama. This is fascinating stuff.
In humans, genomic instability is often associated with premature ageing, predisposition to various types of cancer and with inherited diseases.
He did not teach anything valuable.
Just because you hook science to theory, it does not automatically make it a fact. The sticker is accurate.
@Albert Leibold pure speculation by the presenter. Tinkerers are intelligent. Evolution is not able to make logical choices.
Common designer argument is accurate. Follow the DNA not homology. New structures and codes show the imagination of a master architect of animal kinds very different from others.
So grateful I found your channel!
I am watching someone seriously explain why there's not animals with half an eye?!
As a non American (USA) this is... I have no words.
Peaple need to stop thinking evolution is like Pokemon
You mean super fast and painless ?
Atheist: do you believe in God?
Theist: yes.
Atheist: How? Have you seen God before?
Theists: 1111
Vice versa
Theists: do you believe in evolution?
Atheist: yes
Theists: How? Have you seen evolution with your eyes?
Atheist: 0000
Fill 1111/ 0000 if you are an atheist/ theists.
@@SJ-px1ps Can you explain us to those who don't understand ? That one with numbers ? Thank you.
My thoughts exactly. People expect the fossile record to show something like a Pokemon that died mid-evolution as proof. And since that's impossible (because evolution doesn't work that way irl) they claim evolution is fake.
That bit about fossils had my cry laughing. I know he doesn't mean this literally, but it sounds like he's saying that fossils were created that way, and that the fossils themselves don't evolve, and therefore creationism is true. And that is so ridiculous that I laughed for several minutes.
Also, "I don't think this is a straw man argument, because a straw man would be better." Hilarious, but I kinda think it's both. I think he is deliberately misrepresenting things, but he's ALSO so ignorant that he does a *really* bad job of it.
People that don`t look at the facts will always look for a shortcut, your shortcut is to ignore the reality of degradation of dead matter, before the flood the atmosphere was co2 based and insects, and ants were busy tearing down animals that died, so there was not a lot of even bones to be fossilized.
The problem with fossils is that there isn't any naturalistic mechanism capable of producing metazoans.
@@johndoney2665 Ants don’t eat bones.
@@johndoney2665 Ants don’t eat bones.
One common pattern you see in these sorts of arguments is taking individual supporting components of an complex model that coheres well and treating then as individual “proofs” that are supposed establish evolution in a vacuum, which of course they don’t. It’s like pulling step 17 out of a 40-step deduction and saying “aha, that doesn’t get you to 40!” No, of course not. That’s now how it works.
Religious people here doubting the existence of evolution yet at the same time going off a scripture written 3000 years ago with no basis of evidence is really something else lmao
"Directed and presented by kyle butt"
Damn, I was going to say they pulled these claims out of their ass, but it seems they beat me to the punchline.
I heard the video start amd immediately was like.. wait is this Kyle butt... apparantly I was immediately correct. Butt, idk if I was going to discover that later in video yet, I'm 1 min in.. butt, thanks for the confirmation.
@@bringitonwimps same here. I immediately thought it had to be Butt.
when something smells, it's usually the Butt
Oh, no wonder his voice sounded familiar. Hello from the viced rhino fanclub
@@ferociousfeind8538 shhhhh, your gonna out us!.. or..umm.. I mean who's viced rhino?
The “Mutations don’t give new information.” Almost made me spit out my drink.
In information theory there is conservation of information, so there is never new information. Information is never lost too. Though information is not what most people think it is. Information is not a use full message, it's just data, any kind of data. The spin of an electron is information. The number of hairs on a bald man's head is information.
@@tabularasa0606 So in the heat death of the universe, we'll just be left with a whole lot of useless quantum data?
Yeah that got me too. Thankfully, no drink to spit at that time.
@@niccosalonga9009
Yep.
@@tabularasa0606 I see.
Thank you for clarifying the word theory and the difference of that word as well as explaining what a law and what a theory is in science.
His explanatiom of law is a bit misleading. Eg Ohm's Law R = dU/dI is a definition. And lots of formulas aren't called law at all.
Your title introduction segment reminding me of Rick and Morty’s interdimensional cable segment called “Two Brothers”
"We should find wings that almost allow organisms to fly that can't yet fly..."
Ostriches: "Am I a joke to you?"
Emus are a better example. They don't even have muscles that can move their "wings". At least ostriches can move theirs. But lying creationists will just tell you that's proof that mutations only destroy "information", as if a land based creature with inoperative wings is less complete than one which could fly. The grubs and other land based prey upon which the emu feeds will disagree.
Kirk Cameron: "If evolution is true, we should have crocoducks!"
Anatasuchus: "Am I a joke to you?"
@@markdoldon8852 Destroy information? But that would result in "vestigial organs"... like: wings, in this case... and we have just been told that this cannot happen.
Creationists aren't known for the consistency of their arguments. ;)
I immediately thought of the Dodo bird when he said that.
@@markdoldon8852 That's even more to the point, isn't it? What kind of god gives a bird wings that can move, but not fly?
God's just trolling at that point. lol
This was fantastic. I was raised fundamentalist Christian and these types of videos were a standard part of our education.
One logical fallacy after another. He is a clown and makes up strawman arguments so that he does not have to explain phylogenetic evolution. Just because evolution happens to individual organisms it does not follow that it can be observed in animal classifications
@Aron Gladden nothing correct makes sense to a religoid
@Aron Gladden Populations do change/evolve. Classic cases are 2 species of tern in England that can not mate but as you transit to the east there is a continuum of terns that CAN mate going right around the world until it arrives back in England to the two species that CAN NOT mate.
Also salamanders in the western United States that develop into distinct unmateable species as you move across changing local environments in the landscape. Over smaller distances they can interbreed but not over longer distances.
Populations change because the members of the population are born and die, changing the mix according to which survive and reproduce. The individuals are what they are for the span of their lives.
@Aron Gladden evolution is a system that describes how genetic changes occur in populations over time. Evolution happens when an individual survives to adulthood and reproduces. Whatever allele traits that individual had then gets passed on.
Why do 99% of humans enjoy eating high calorie food and having sex? Because for most of human existence those traits helped us survive. Humans that don't like sex don't reproduce much, if at all, and don't pass on that allele.
@Aron Gladden I never said that was my definition for it, nor would creationists agree with it as they think genetic information can only degrade. My explanation provides no degradation or ladder of higher life forms as creationists believe.
Since you want to play the definition game despite Evolution having clear, widely, available, concrete definitions, here is mine:
Evolution may be defined as any net directional change or any cumulative change in the characteristics of organisms or populations over many generations-in other words, descent with modification
Please respond with your definition of creationism as well as how old you believe the earth is.
Excellent content as always. Keep on with the excellent work!
creationist thinks we evolve like pokemon
It's questionable if they think at all - they tend to parrot catchphrases.
Ah, yes, The Creationist Playbook: misunderstandings, strawmen, and quote mining.
Nice pfp
@@Dragon_prince90 Thank you.
@@girlwithtehface5880 no problem
hello fellow ace :p
@@tuwubah ello ace brethren
Do love Tim Minchin’s take on “evolution is just a theory”
“They’re right, and it give you hope, that maybe they feel the same way about the theory of gravity... and maybe they’ll just float the fuck away”
I love Tim Minchin!
someone else commented this a while ago - but next time they say that, state gravity is a theory, next time you get on a plane, jump out of it, will you take a parachute or a bible, remember gravity is just a theory
Tim Minchin is awesome, and now i'm compelled to get a overdose of his bizarre genious silly songs, so THANK YOU.
they're not the same, gravity has been proven, not just a theory like evolution
@@rediyuda Gravity is both a law and a theory, the former is the mathematics (proven), the latter describes how it happens - but scientists dont really know - except that it does happen. Anyway, only maths can be proven, everything else is evidence.
The creationist's structure for their argument is like having an heir to the throne that suddenly has a challenger, an usurper. they think that by destroying the usurper's claim that their heir to the throne clearly has the one true claim. They will never examine their heir's claim to determine if it is justified.
Really helpful video. I learned all this creation guy’s points as a child and didn’t know the answers. Thanks.
I'm an academic myself with experience in Anthropology, so I'll comment on the video you reacted to with with all the decorum and professionalism it deserves: Hehe, that guys name is Butts.
My Lord what love is this that pays so dearly That I the guilty one may go free? Amazing love O what sacrifice the Son of GOD giv`n for me my debt He pays my death He dies that I might live And so they watched Him die, despised rejected But the blood He shed flowed for me
perfect reply for this comment, John Doney
You might say, he was the Butts of the joke
@@johndoney2665 What a lovely hymn! Replete with guilt, self-loathing, human sacrifice, death, rejection and blood. It's what christianity is all about.
@@johndoney2665 That's a nicely written verse and everything, but it doesn't prove the claims Butts made in the video or disprove anything that Forrest Valkai just said in his _rebuttal._
They're always saying to approach evolution "with an open mind" and you'll find it's not true (but their version of creation is), when what they're really doing is looking at evolution with a completely closed mind which is already made up. It's so frustrating.
You're a lot more gracious than many would be - a mark of a good educator. I'm so glad I stumbled on your channel!
He debunked none of their arguments, he just twisted them. Every creature has all its final organs from the beginning, else it would not be able to survive. You eye is either perfect or not existant. Photosensitive eyes are not primitive, they are more complex than 100 chemistry phd thesis. Where are the primitive organs that evolved to higher forms ? You played too much with your fantasy Zoomer.
I am nowhere near as gracious when I hear the creationist rubbish being argued as better than evolution.
Bravo to Forrest.
@mattsadventureswithart5764
Look up...
1- Piltdown Skull Hoax
2- Lucy Bones Hoax
3- Darwin's Fossil problem
etc., etc.
Evolution is one of the biggest scams in History = Actual rubbish
Every time a creationist takes about "following the evidence wherever it leads" I want to ask the obvious follow up if they are open to the idea that the bible might be fiction. Because we know the answer to that one.
They don't slap that warning sign on other fields of science. You either do that or you stop that crap altogether. Incidently, the only people who approach evolution "with an open mind" are scientists themselves, prepared to correct their science when data points at a different explanation. The only people lacking "open minds" are the religiously indoctrinated. They made their minds up a long time ago. Oh the irony.
I love the extremely unsubtle cut in the homology bit about whales where it looks like he went on for way too long providing examples and afterward during editting it was like "yeah, this is killing the pacing, let's move on"
what i really enjoyed about this video is that it could've felt like "preaching to the choir" but because of your in-depth and interesting explanations, i'm walking away feeling like i (a person with a graduate school level education!) actually learned something. really great!
This guy laughing for 20 seconds at his own "reacteria" joke might be the nerdiest thing I've ever seen
that was so funny
Ngl kinda felt like a interdimensional cable skit
So, I've never come across this guy before, and there's so, so, much to watch on UA-cam, I almost didn't make it through the first 90 seconds. Luckily, I just skipped forward a minute, rather than move on to the next video.
After I watched the video, gave it a like, and subscribed, I went back to the start and watched that first 1.5 minutes.
Enjoyed it too. Evolution, right there! :)
In particular, it’s the sort of show that shows people trying to plan a show as it’s airing so they are trying to say what they are going to do in an inconspicuous way. However, because it is made up on the spot, the naming conventions suck and they realize that and laugh, and then watchers will become intrigued whether the title of that segment is bad.
It’s like a “watch me learn this skill” video but hypercompressed.
Reacteria got my through freshman year. I’m not a science major or anything, but I had a really horrible and depressing freshman year. I didn’t have friends, my depression was killing me, I just wanted to go home. But, after classes, I’d go back to my dorm, make some hot chocolate, boot up Minecraft, and watch some Forrest Valkai content. Those are the best memories I had of my first year in college.
👍
Hope you’re doing better or making progress in doing so ❤ Yeah Valkai’s content is so cool. Fun and informative, learning so much
It’s very comforting to watch Forrest and other well informed podcasters who can explain objectively how things actually work. It reminds me that the scientific method is reliable and there are countless people making advances despite incredible challenges.
I had the same thing! Was super depressing.
@jo-p5 Sadly, you were duped.👎
Look up...
1- Piltdown Skull Hoax
2- Lucy Bones Hoax
3- Darwin's Fossil problem
4- Nebraska Man Tooth Hoax
5- E. Haeckel drawings
etc., etc.
Evolution is the biggest scam in History
When I saw the little DNA model it reminded me of my favorite science teacher
[You're the best, Mr Hayes]
Something I always wonder is, what do these creationists think scientists are trying to gain by “making up” stuff like evolution, mind boggling
The answer tends to be "money" or "they hate god" or something really ridiculous like that.
Assuming that they think at all.
“You did the thing again!” I love how you point that out. BTW it’s called sophistry. I am glad to know there are young people like you out there. Please keep soldiering on.
Forrest is truly the perfect Intersection between Atheist-Channel and Science-Yotubers.
But i see the stunning trend that many dont get inspired by this to check out more
of both, even though theres so many more epic ones.
Serious Ones, like Professor Dave Explains, Prophet of Zod, Sci Man Dan and Planarwalk,
but also Goofy Ones
like Darkmatter25, Logicked, Sir Sic, Emma Thorne, C-Catz and Creaky Blinder!
I have no idea how Forrest can stand to listen to this stuff. I'm glad he does it, someone has to.
@@monsterinhead214 Well, it's important to dive into Issues, but for those that cant stand it too long, i would suggest watching more humor-specialized Atheists like Logicked, Sir Sic, Darkmatter and maybe Some More News.
@@monsterinhead214 And Emma Thorne.
@Finn If you think so, you will love Hbomberguy, Creaky Blinder, Second Thought, and Sir Sic!
That textbook sticker has to be the most US thing ever.
Nah, it barely registers for me... Women have been arrested here for endangering a child because they WERE ASSAULTED while pregnant. That's the US for you.
@@georgeparkins777 George Floyd?
@@georgeparkins777 brug
@@progunjack5556 Well, that's just generically totalitarian. Oppressing a racial minority isn't what makes us unique. A bizarrely warped social conservatism and hypercapitalism are however beginning to make us stand out among a lot of modestly progressive countries with actual social programs, like, I dunno, the majority of developed countries.
Most US thing was probably when some legislators tried to redefine Pi to "3".
At the beginning of the video when he talks about the sticker on the textbook; we see this practice today in other areas of life. Every time you see a, “Non-GMO verified” sticker on something at the grocery store, they’re using the same tactic to scare people away from the technology.
I especially appreciate when academics can articulate complex arguments in a way that the average lay person can understand AND offer reliable evidence or citations.
That video consisted only of lies and deception and no science.
Since 100% of every claim that evolutionists have used to promote the story of evolution and since every sentence found in textbooks where they are teaching evolutionism has been proven scientifically to be fraud and/or deception, what I want to know is why you are unable to see the fraud. Never has any evidence been found to show that evolution has ever occurred or even could occur, why do you insist on believing it as your religious belief? It is impossible for you to s how me one honest reason to believe such a myth as evolutionism.
I guarantee that none of you evolutionists can find any science showing that the story of evolution is true.
I especially appreciate when academics can articulate complex arguments in a way that the average lay person can understand AND offer reliable evidence or citations.
I don't find FV that articulate
he is mostly delivering recycled dogma and just too much silly talk
@@raysalmon6566 s
Are you suggesting that there is no recycled dogma in creationism‽
@@davidrw61
there are different versions of creation
myself I'm not YEC
But Jesus saying God created everything is not recycled dogma
@@raysalmon6566 That's... literally dogma though?
“MY BODY IS NOT A PRISON FULL OF INMATES!” I was not expecting that to make me laugh as much as it did 🤣
omg i was searching for a comment like this, i laughed so goddamn hard hahaha
In a way it is… multicellularity means you have to make cells behave. If they don’t, you get cancer.
@@mikepolo2887 Perhaps, in a way... but that would still really only be Truly Analogous IF Prisons themselves actually became Sentient.
@@TechySeven you can’t deny sentience of prisons XD
What makes an analogy valid is not that two things are similar in every respect possible, but that the two things are similar in their relevant features.
@@wambam3 on
for something came up with on the spot, Reacteria is a seriously good name
I'm on the side of science. I get the word "theory" in the scientific context, but what really resonated with me for what a "theory" meant in science was when someone put "theory" in the context of music. The "theory" of music is not speculation, it explains why notes and timing sound good. Certain notes vibrate in a sync, timing provides a beat, etc. Music theory is not a guess, it's an explanation of why classcial music is pleasant, why rock, pop, jazz, etc. puts you in a certain mood. In music "theory" does not mean speculation, it means explanation!
It’s the same in science.
Theories explain Facts.
Gravity is a Fact - Gravitational Theory explains how it works.
Germs are a Fact - The Germ Theory of Disease explains how they work.
The non-sequiturs are delicious. "If we look at evolution with an open mind and study it carefully and critically consider it we'll realize that God created everything." Wow, didn't realize creation would follow from doubting evolution. It's almost like he has a cherished alternate explanation he wants to license by being hyper dubious about science.
It's a widely-held (fallacious) belief that if they can disprove evolution, it'd somehow prove their god
@@ferociousfeind8538 The same thing happens for the historical account of Jesus. They assert that it was most likely that Jesus lived a certain way, died for specific reasons, and was buried a certain way. They look at the bible accounts and say "Clearly, there is no other logical alternative. Because, it's obviously most likely that these facts line up to prove he ressurected rather than got buried in a communal grave or something. He had to have ressurected" They pick and choose where the evidence leads: towards their claim.
@@etherealstars5766 Not to mention ignoring how bullshit the story of his death is. Why did they crucify people? Basically, the same reason people were hung in public: to shame and as an example. So why would they take him off the cross? And even if they did, why would they give him anything close to a proper burial? It's all just so silly.
@@etherealstars5766 Not only that but both Christmas and Easter happen to also fall on Pagan holidays. They reformatted holidays Pagans celebrated to lure the Pagans into Christianity to make them feel more at ease with the religion forced upon them. Decorating Christmas trees and feasting during the winter equinox, yule logs gift giving, all things adapted over from Pagans, same with celebrating the spring equinox for Easter. Its almost as if they invented Jesus to have an excuse to add holidays to lure Pagans in.
@@ferociousfeind8538 Good point. Just to add to that, it might even blow his tiny mind to realise that both evolutionists AND creationists would both LOVE to disprove evolution and have been trying for a long time.
"Homology doesn't prove evolution. It just proves God isn't very creative!" Great argument, creationist guy.
Self-own.
Seriously, did he think before putting that in the video? LOL
Ah, the famous Half Assed Creator argument
After a year... I don't believe in Evolution! But I accept the facts that show evidence thereof! So therefore I accept it as real.
Whereas there is no evidence of any religious text that claims otherwise.
P.S. Pasquals Wager or Begging the Question is no way to get reality into evidence.
So you dont believe evolution but you believe the evidence that shows evolution is true...how, how...make that mame sense
The best part of his video was unironically the fade out to reveal that his name was Kyle Butt. Actually made me laugh out loud 😭
I love how he gives an entire speech for every point the guy makes explaining why it’s wrong
hes trying to go in detail how all of this works because these types of conspiracy theories like creationism come from a lack of understanding of those subjects
The devil is always in the details.Nothing was ever solved or proven with slogans and propagandized sound bites.
@@davidwilliambarker the devil is a made up character and everything he said is what we know based evidence we have found in over 2 centuries
@@gilbertohernandez2409 - It's an English language figure of speech. It means "the details of a matter are its most problematic aspect," from Oxford Languages online.
For some reason, I really liked the "One bone, two bones, little bones, long bones". Like a Dr. Seuss book for anatomy
I remember reading this description in "Your Inner Fish" by Neil Shubin. Well worth your time to read.
Tikki Tikki Tembo No Sa Rembo Chari Bari Ruchi Pip Peri Pembo.
Thank you for validating and promoting natural science. Your comments and refutations were reasonable and well said. I always found it alarming that theists and creationists have to belittle other beliefs to make their own sound good.
I think the funniest part is seeing the creationists in the comments arguing in a pseudo-scientific way about how evolution is just an assumption and when they get confronted that religion ain't any better they just say "I just have faith". Like, you could have just said that instead of wasting my time trying to make me believe you had any intent to believe in stuff with proof 😂
Please do more of these!
yeah these are really interesting
taii boon
The MOST hilarious part is near the end when he says "If we look at it with an open mind" lol
yeah it's like that "answers in genesis" site, they have a video on critical thinking. the first step is, consult the scriptures!
In their mind - an open mind is a brainwashed one - that scrambles to come up with made up or false claims to support their continued belief.
Yeah I didn’t understand the whole “open mind” statement. Mr. Butt wasn’t looking at the material with an open mind from the start, he even stated as such. His opening objective was to “prove” his agenda by “disproving” his scientific opposition. That’s the exact opposite of an open mind.
Basically saying “I know it sounds crazy. But what if? Ya know?” Lol
Kyle Butt, a creationist being dishonest about presenting information? NO WAY!!! 😆😂😂😂
the most insidious type of lie is the half-truth
The whole "common designer" thing makes me laugh, especially when thousands die every year from choking to death because our bodies share the same eating and breathing tube and sometimes it malfunctions because the "designer" was too stupid to think of separating those two things....as say like in Dolphins.
I think Richard Dawkins' giraffe laryngeal nerve demonstration is the strongest evidence against intelligent design I've seen
@@shinobi-no-bueno Yes, I have yet to hear one creationist even attempt to address that one.
You say that but allow me to introduce you to coding where bugs are introduced because of vestigial code blocks from the programmers copy/pasting modules from earlier programs...
@@NotAGoodUsername360 Your average programmer doesn't have infinite time and complete knowledge of everything, so we're still arguing that God is an idiot either way.
@@YEs69th420 and who say he isn't? :V