The irony is both the Blackwood and Bracken Houses joined with Robb Stark and the North during The War of the Five Kings and both continued to fight against the Lannisters even after the Red Wedding LMAO The Lannisters are so despicable that both of these houses who have had so many grudges towards eachother put aside their differences to avenge the Starks.
@@austinfilms1007 A Song of Ice and Fire Book Five: A Dance with Dragons (After Jaime ends the siege in Riverrun and ensures the loyalty of the Blackwoods by taking one of their sons as a hostage and one daughter from the Brackens) "So we go on century after century. with us hating the Brackens and them hating us. My father says there will never be an end to it." - Hoster Blackwood (Jaime's hostage) "There could be." - Jaime Lannister "How, my lord? The old wounds never heal, my father says." - Hoster Blackwood "My father had a saying too. Never wound a foe when you can kill him. Dead men can't claim vengeance." - Jaime Lannister "Their sons do." - Hoster Blackwood "Not if you kill their sons as well. Ask the Casterlys about that if you doubt me. Ask Lord and Lady Tarbeck, or the Reynes of Castamere. Ask the Prince of Dragonstone." - Jaime Lannister "Is that why you killed all the Starks?" - Hoster Blackwood "Not all, Lord Eddard's daughters live. One has just been wed. The other...." (Brienne, where are you? Have you found her?) "... if the gods are good, she'll forget she was a Stark. She'll wed some burly blacksmith or fat faced innkeep, fill his house with children, and never need to fear that some knight might come along to smash their heads against a wall." - Jaime Lannister "The gods are good." -Hoster Blackwood (You go on believing that.) - Jaime Lannister's thought
Facts, Rhaenyra could've had his kids but, nah, she tossed every suitor away and got with the ONE guy that was known for not having taste in women. She's her own worst enemy, low-key.
@@thalmoragent9344 you do remember it was an arranged marriage rhenerya didn't choose laenor and regardless of how cool he was he was just a boy it's completely reasonable for rhenerya to reject him .
@@thatoneblackdude3333 She took him over a lot of other options. Had she been thinking clearly, she would have realized how valuable a "Lad" would have been in securing her claim to the Throne, if only she thought a little farther ahead. Ah, what could have been...
@@realjwu860 I’m not sure if it was a “find a husband and get married NOW” or “find a possible husband who you can atleast get betrothed to” either way Willem could be a pretty good match and hey, if she did want to still go for Harwin, well black hair is closer to brown hair than pale ass blonde.
It looked like Willem Blackwood gutted Jerrell Bracken in episode 4. I don't believe Jerrell could have survived. Maybe a brother of Jerrell will come back at Willem to take revenge.
@Jacob Clay I like the Blackwoods too! Tytos Blackwoods raven feather cloak sounds cool and the actual raven tree were the ravens roost at night sounds pretty cool too.
The funny thing is that Daenerys descends from the Blackwoods through Betha Blackwood, so Willem’s hopes for the Targaryens sharing his bloodline came true after all
I can deal with the Samwell name change, but they better not rename his son, Benjicot Blackwood A.K.A "Bloody Ben" I can't wait for GRRM to release their House words!
@klasyk Their House words are "We flock together " and man "Bloody Ben" was a beast and tbh i actually thought tgat tgia bad ass was "Bloody Ben" but its not its his Sire Samwell Blackwood
I think the bracken dude is dead, because the point of the scene is supposed to be a little tragic, with the bracken father comforting his son whos bleeding out in his hands over a petty dispute between two heirs trying to seems macho, you can even see Willem keeling over and puking in the background after doing what he did.
@@tiringsarcasm Not when everything depends on your reputation. The future lord of a noble house being labeled a craven puts a huge stigma on them, and impacts all their future interactions. No one will trust Willem the craven to have their back during a fight, and no one will treat him like an equal.
Also remember she dived into a fucking canal likely filled with the shit and piss of thousands of people, she should’ve developed an infection and died, but no, lol.
It's honestly one of the best aspects of the ASOIAF world: The dark humour that opens itself up thanks to the normal nastiness we see, meaning stuff that's absurd like this is really entertaining compared to the more grim stuff.
I find it so hilarious that the Bracken's and the Blackwood's fight marry and then find something else to fight about and it just starts all over again😂😂
Your theory is right mate Blackwoods have a past of dealing with Magic! And so the Starks dealed! And i think that Cregan Stark smashed that Blackwood Lady 🤣🤣🤣 So the corrent Starks have both houses blood! But dont forget about the theory that Starks have also white Walker blood thanks to the Legend of the 13th lord commander of the nights watch who was a Stark too!
@@luisduarte7917 A theory that somehow misses the rather important detail that, assuming the Night's King was a Stark, House Stark is not descended from him, so cannot have his and his corpse bride's blood.
I think HotD changed the original names in order to use Amos and Samwell later in the timeline during the Dance of the Dragons. That small change creates a lineage of conflict between Rival Houses on screen.
Only if we are meant to believe Willem Blackwood is the younger brother to Samwell or not part of the main branch (if older brother he would have to be just slightly older in order for the timeline to work). Since it’s Samwells son Benjicot (a lad of 14 by the end of the dance) who is mostly in the story and since it’s only been 17 years since the duel it doesn’t really make sense that 2 generations have been born. I mean let’s say Willem was 13 being generous he has his son around a year or two later that would make his son 15 and just now having a son of his own so Benjicot would be 1-2 when he’s suppose to be 12 at the start of the dance. I don’t mind if it’s just a name change though as long as the story is good. The whole point of the book as a unreliable narrator is you having to piece together the story from vague information on important events so it makes sense that some names and even events would be different.
@@KingOfWinter Names being different is a huge thing in historical books and quite easy to check as proud houses keep lists of their Lords. The show is just not book canon. Martin has already said that there is book canon and show canon. The show is canon to the other show but not canon for the books. But clickbait UA-camrs only keep the "show is canon" part.
@WERTYUIO821. Oh yeah I don’t hold this as boom canon but the showrunner is a real fan and is trying to stay as close to the books as possible so I assume he has a plan. Though I did assume that for D&D too and we all know how that went lol. Yeah proud houses have records but how can we really trust those records especially when really proud houses try tracing their lineage back to literally gods. Maybe you can trust 3-4 generations back but anything further than that and you’re working with the honor system and that isn’t something I would trust 100% but still I see your point and concede lol
@@KingOfWinter Unfortunately the showrunner is not close to the books. Spoiler alert. Laena's death in the books was very very sad. She lost her son and because of grief she got sick. Daemon brought her the Maester of Dragonstone and the Maester of Driftmark but they couldn't help her. The way they changed it to the show was a betrayal to her character. It was one of the saddest scenes they could have instead they changed just to make some anger against Daemon? Make Laena forgettable? Both? I don't know. I really hope they don't change Silverwing's scene with Vermithor as well. If they do that one well, they can legitimately get the saddest scene in all of TV series.
@WERTYUIO821. Oh I’m obsessed with all things ASOIAF. So you don’t have to spoiler warn me though I do thank you for looking out. Yeah he has changed a lot but I have heard he’s a real fan of the books nonetheless. You take chances and sometime you hit gold and sometimes it’s crap. Like I personally like the House Valyrion change and Aemond not meaning to kill his nephew change but I agree laena’s death was horrible. But they absolutely did it to show she had “agency” in her death since earlier it showed king Viserys saying to save the child which “killed” his wife and they were showing how a “strong” woman would not go out like that. Though I would argue a truly strong woman wouldn’t want her child to die so she could live but that’s just politics and Hollywood loves putting it’s politics in stories where they should just stay out of it and do it like the fans want. Oh I hope they don’t change that either and I hope they bring Daeron into the show. I would love a alternate history where Jace is king and Daeron is hand and the families worked together instead of fought but that’s just the summer child in me lol
@@realjwu860 we're hopefully going to see him in the next season. He's supposed her best boy. I think Luke and Jace are just fine as well. I liked Daemon too but what he did to Halaena's son, I hated that. Killing an innocent is not the way n ik Luke was an innocent too but either Aegon or aemond should have been assassinated but I suppose that they needed the drama. Whenever I think of Halaena's son, I never think of him as Aegon's son, only Halaena's, the kid deserved better as did Halaena. And Alicent deserved the absolute worst and Otto and Larys deserve Ramsay or Cersei style torture.
Not a book reader but I don't know for sure but I can say from the show that Rhaenyra's kids are just a blank state while Alicent's kids are much more interesting, Aegon is a man who does not want to fulfill his duties and is forced to adjust to this environment, Halaena is a dragon rider and a dreamer, Aemond is a man who's brutal and skilled and would do anything for his family.
Alicent family is pure toxicity, i feel like rhaenyra and viserys really loved her children but alicent was detached from them bcs she was forced to conceive them
In an age where honor and face is everything, that poor kid (heir to oldstones) kinda had to do something when the heir to fairmarket literally named him craven. Remember when Fingolfin rode up to Angband and challenged Morgoth to a 1v1 fight and then named him Craven in front of all of his lieutenants thus forcing him to accept?
I know the second half is LOTR since Fingolfin and Morgoth. But the first half is wrong, Blackwood are the lords of Raventree not Oldstones and Brackens were the lord of Stone Hedge not fairmarket
Hello whycreate, do you think you could do some updated map details videos? It would be cool to see more of the details and lands of the minor houses that inhabit the kingdoms, and maybe some lore/history behind them. I just watched the Crownlands video again and its like 70% history of Kings Landing and 30% on the actual crownlands, and it doesn't even mention House Hayford :(. I know some of these houses aren't the most fascinating, but most at least have lore bits, and it'd be cool to see an updated actual detailed map of the lands. Just a request! Thank you for making all this content!
Willem probably be dead by a Bracken but not until leaving an heir named Benjicot in the care of his sister, the Lady Blackwood. Then the North arrives
If the Brackens could be proven to having poisoned a heart tree, then their family should be attainted and all of their holdings surrendered to House Blackwood.
It was probably just to add some air of mystery in the show. Shows don't always have to translate page to film 100% accurately. Sometimes little detail changes can make the most powerful affect on the show, in a positive manner. The Last Of Us is the most recent example of changes from the source material to film being for the betterment of the project. As long as the showrunners do the source material justice, then I'm all for it. A simple name change could also add much more spontaneity to the show. Since we know what will happen in the books, this can be fun to watch in live action, as we don't know it will happen exactly as it was written. Plus it also factors into how the books were written. With Fire and Blood being comprised of third party information, there is room for interpretation and play on some accords.
i think you got it wrong when rhaenyra said "i quite like that one". i think she meant the kid, having said that he was a child so he wasn't really considered.
A Song of Ice and Fire Book Five: A Dance with Dragons (After Jaime ends the siege in Riverrun and ensures the loyalty of the Blackwoods by taking one of their sons as a hostage and one daughter from the Brackens) "So we go on century after century. with us hating the Brackens and them hating us. My father says there will never be an end to it." - Hoster Blackwood (Jaime's hostage) "There could be." - Jaime Lannister "How, my lord? The old wounds never heal, my father says." - Hoster Blackwood "My father had a saying too. Never wound a foe when you can kill him. Dead men can't claim vengeance." - Jaime Lannister "Their sons do." - Hoster Blackwood "Not if you kill their sons as well. Ask the Casterlys about that if you doubt me. Ask Lord and Lady Tarbeck, or the Reynes of Castamere. Ask the Prince of Dragonstone." - Jaime Lannister "Is that why you killed all the Starks?" - Hoster Blackwood "Not all, Lord Eddard's daughters live. One has just been wed. The other...." (Brienne, where are you? Have you found her?) "... if the gods are good, she'll forget she was a Stark. She'll wed some burly blacksmith or fat faced innkeep, fill his house with children, and never need to fear that some knight might come along to smash their heads against a wall." - Jaime Lannister "The gods are good." -Hoster Blackwood (You go on believing that.) - Jaime Lannister's thought
I hope Willem keep a slim and slender figure so he's the quick on his feet type of fighter to oppose the massive Jerrel who'll definitely carry some trauma from that encouter they have at Storm's End. Exciting things to look forward.
He's meant to protect her, not break up petty disputes. Her leaving when swords are drawn is self-protection, she's the heir to the throne, not some maid or something.
@@crayolaclouds2696She could’ve ordered him to stop the fight, the kingsgaurd do what they’re commanded. Also it wasn’t dangerous for her since they were just dueling each other, instead of keeping the peace between two of her future bannermen she fled like the foolish teenager she was
Hahaha that's hilarious. Welcome to the world of anyone can be anything weather they are skilled or not. Really sucks. The quality of acting in shows has fell off a cliff
Wait something just occurred to me, did Lord Baratheon give them Guest Right ? If he did so wouldn’t that mean Willem broke guest right or was it being a duel negate it ? Also I am curious if that situation will have affect in who supports Rheanerys ?
If I remember my lore correctly, guess right is specifically between host and guest, and since Lord Baratheon (and arguably Rhaenyra, as the gathering was for her) were hosts, while both the Bracken and Blackwood were guests, I'm not sure guest right even applies to the situation.
Guess right are usually secured under the "offering of salt and bread".....and also I believe it was intended for overnight guest, but maybe not on the latter
I guess since Jerrel Bracken drew his own weapon and closed in with Willem it was considered an impromptu duel. No way Baratheon would allow one of his guests to just murder another of his guests.
Brynden rivers(bloodraven) mother is a Blackwood, so Willem is a pretty recent relative. Also Aegor bittersteel, another bastard of Aegon the IV, mother is a Bracken. They kept the beef going 😂
Very much dislike that you stated that Samwell was the ultimate coward. The point of his story is that once he had something he loved he became courageous, because he had to be. Unfortunately the show ruined him
Show wiki state that "Dance" in show started in 132y. Show universe has its own timeline like in GoT every season is 1 year so in season eight it's 305y, but in last book It's still 300y. I like your video, but i don't think you can mix cannon from book universe written by Martin and show cannon, which is basically fanfic written by scriptwriter and made on studio.
The irony is both the Blackwood and Bracken Houses joined with Robb Stark and the North during The War of the Five Kings and both continued to fight against the Lannisters even after the Red Wedding LMAO The Lannisters are so despicable that both of these houses who have had so many grudges towards eachother put aside their differences to avenge the Starks.
Until book 3 when house Bracken changes sides and attacks house Blackwood who is still fighting for the Starks
@@austinfilms1007 A Song of Ice and Fire Book Five: A Dance with Dragons
(After Jaime ends the siege in Riverrun and ensures the loyalty of the Blackwoods by taking one of their sons as a hostage and one daughter from the Brackens)
"So we go on century after century. with us hating the Brackens and them hating us. My father says there will never be an end to it."
- Hoster Blackwood (Jaime's hostage)
"There could be."
- Jaime Lannister
"How, my lord? The old wounds never heal, my father says."
- Hoster Blackwood
"My father had a saying too. Never wound a foe when you can kill him. Dead men can't claim vengeance."
- Jaime Lannister
"Their sons do."
- Hoster Blackwood
"Not if you kill their sons as well. Ask the Casterlys about that if you doubt me. Ask Lord and Lady Tarbeck, or the Reynes of Castamere. Ask the Prince of Dragonstone."
- Jaime Lannister
"Is that why you killed all the Starks?"
- Hoster Blackwood
"Not all, Lord Eddard's daughters live. One has just been wed. The other...." (Brienne, where are you? Have you found her?) "... if the gods are good, she'll forget she was a Stark. She'll wed some burly blacksmith or fat faced innkeep, fill his house with children, and never need to fear that some knight might come along to smash their heads against a wall."
- Jaime Lannister
"The gods are good."
-Hoster Blackwood
(You go on believing that.)
- Jaime Lannister's thought
They've also intermarried tons of times to resolve various disputes so they're basically kin.
it was due to the salt and bread thing, which really was a big offense back then.
I guarantee you no one will question wether or not his kids are truly his.
Facts, Rhaenyra could've had his kids but, nah, she tossed every suitor away and got with the ONE guy that was known for not having taste in women. She's her own worst enemy, low-key.
@@thalmoragent9344 you do remember it was an arranged marriage rhenerya didn't choose laenor and regardless of how cool he was he was just a boy it's completely reasonable for rhenerya to reject him .
@@thatoneblackdude3333 well then maybe find yourself a suitor instead of ditching all of it to bang your uncle in King's Landing
@@thatoneblackdude3333 She took him over a lot of other options. Had she been thinking clearly, she would have realized how valuable a "Lad" would have been in securing her claim to the Throne, if only she thought a little farther ahead. Ah, what could have been...
@@realjwu860 I’m not sure if it was a “find a husband and get married NOW” or “find a possible husband who you can atleast get betrothed to” either way Willem could be a pretty good match and hey, if she did want to still go for Harwin, well black hair is closer to brown hair than pale ass blonde.
It looked like Willem Blackwood gutted Jerrell Bracken in episode 4. I don't believe Jerrell could have survived. Maybe a brother of Jerrell will come back at Willem to take revenge.
Yeah, Jerrell ain't coming back.
He literally ate a longsword through the guts, only modern surgery could have saved him
@@krieger8825 and even that’s not 100%
@@krieger8825 Unless a red priest like Thoros was around to resurrect him Jerrell is done.
@@haymaker710 unless there was a red priest hiding under under one of the chairs, he's dead asf.
Of the minor houses, the Blackwoods rank high for me. Even higher now that we saw this short boss.
Glory to the Bloodraven 🥹
@@captainvalourous6668 Fuck the Bracken.
@Jacob Clay
I like the Blackwoods too! Tytos Blackwoods raven feather cloak sounds cool and the actual raven tree were the ravens roost at night sounds pretty cool too.
Wait till u see benjicot blackwood aka bloody ben, the lord of house blackwood at time of the dance
@@tanxeelhanif Oh boi, that guy is probably gonna be cray-cray in the war but in a good way. Sorta like Ivar the Boneless type of vibes hopefully
Lmao, that Blackwood kid was a GOAT. If I were Rhaenyra, I'd have chosen him for that alone 🤣
Goat as an animal ?
Dude for real. I love that kid. Best part of the whole show
@@georgedanielsbiz you serious? GOAT is an acronym, not the animal
@@HugoStiglitz88 I’m like halfserious
Hopefully they meet again since now there's been the time skip and he's probably even more badass lol.
I remember laughing my ass off at this then having to explain why a showdown between Brackens and Blackwoods killing each other was funny.
I had no clue and I laughed my ass off too. It's a hilarious scene tbh
The funny thing is that Daenerys descends from the Blackwoods through Betha Blackwood, so Willem’s hopes for the Targaryens sharing his bloodline came true after all
Kid had one of the best moments in season 1 😂💯💯
Season 2 update: he committed war crimes
I can deal with the Samwell name change, but they better not rename his son, Benjicot Blackwood A.K.A "Bloody Ben"
I can't wait for GRRM to release their House words!
They don’t have the balls to do it we must riot if they do
I can imagine it will stay. They obviously didnt want two samwells
@klasyk Their House words are "We flock together " and man "Bloody Ben" was a beast and tbh i actually thought tgat tgia bad ass was "Bloody Ben" but its not its his Sire
Samwell Blackwood
Kid must’ve been 11/12 here for timelines to align unless he hits smt before the age of 16
@@virgilsierra6007 well they don't keep faith age wise in either series
I think the bracken dude is dead, because the point of the scene is supposed to be a little tragic, with the bracken father comforting his son whos bleeding out in his hands over a petty dispute between two heirs trying to seems macho, you can even see Willem keeling over and puking in the background after doing what he did.
It was not petty, you cant call a man craven and get away with it.
@@yusufraage8554 I agree
@@yusufraage8554Compared to the life of a young man with a promising future and a loving family? Being called craven is petty in comparison.
@@tiringsarcasm Not when everything depends on your reputation. The future lord of a noble house being labeled a craven puts a huge stigma on them, and impacts all their future interactions. No one will trust Willem the craven to have their back during a fight, and no one will treat him like an equal.
I see a braken and Blackwood rivalry brewing in the comments
Jerrell is deader than aerys, only arya stark can survive a wound like that
What makes you think Arya gonna survive that lol
@@sauce6746 already survived worse
@@sauce6746 Plotarmor.
@@sergoldenhandthejust1495 Getting stabbed a few times in the gut doesnt really compare to getting full on impaled and vomiting your intestines.
@@sauce6746 “stabbed a few times?” Dawg her intestines got obliterated and she just walked it off like it was a mosquito bite
a Bracken surviving a duel with a Blackwood?? I choose not to believe it
Bittersteel and Bloodraven duel d twice iirc and both of the times they survived.
@@kiennguyentrong1897yeah but they’re targaryen blood cancels each other out
They dubbed him "Ser duck around and find out"
Quack off
The battle of the burning mill looked like it was a hell of a fight! lol
I don't think HotD is Star Wars. No way Bracken would've survived that stab.
Tell that to Arya lol 😂
Also remember she dived into a fucking canal likely filled with the shit and piss of thousands of people, she should’ve developed an infection and died, but no, lol.
@@warzonebrothers5244 GRRM didn't write that scene. D&D's idea.
@@warzonebrothers5244 Even without being exposed to that scene prior I was watching Arya be invincible just absolutlely dumbstruck.
@@stevewhite6241 I know lol I was just messing around lol
If she married this gigachad the show would be over in 1 season
She was definitely a fool but she matured
@@billcutting2681 obviously not
@@Shauntheduke. did you not keep watching? She certainly did. She had no choice, but to find a lover because her betrothed was a homosexual.
@@billcutting2681 bro that’s not maturing that’s thinking you can have your cake and eat it too. She’s still doing dumbass shit.
One more thing Rhaenyra is the three eyed raven great grandmother as well
That scene lived rent-free in my head for a while.
It really had no reason being as entertaining as it was 😂👏🏽👏🏽
It's honestly one of the best aspects of the ASOIAF world: The dark humour that opens itself up thanks to the normal nastiness we see, meaning stuff that's absurd like this is really entertaining compared to the more grim stuff.
I find it so hilarious that the Bracken's and the Blackwood's fight marry and then find something else to fight about and it just starts all over again😂😂
My theory, I think there is something about the Blackwood blood mixed with the Stark blood that makes the current Starks special.
Your theory is right mate
Blackwoods have a past of dealing with Magic!
And so the Starks dealed!
And i think that Cregan Stark smashed that Blackwood Lady 🤣🤣🤣
So the corrent Starks have both houses blood!
But dont forget about the theory that Starks have also white Walker blood thanks to the Legend of the 13th lord commander of the nights watch who was a Stark too!
@@luisduarte7917 A theory that somehow misses the rather important detail that, assuming the Night's King was a Stark, House Stark is not descended from him, so cannot have his and his corpse bride's blood.
Don’t think they’ll focus in any of that in the show
I think even Daenerys had Blackwood blood.
@@TheStraightestWhitest Great catch! I hadn't paid attention to it.
Season 2 Willem just got beheaded
I’m so glad I’m hyped for ASOIAF videos again. HOTD has re ignited my love. Pun intended
The Blackwoods are actually tall. Brynden Rivers is said to be 6 ft tall, the current lord is like 6ft 6 and his son is like 7 feet tall.
There’s no way jerrell would have survived his stab wound.
Anything’s possible
@@Chadius_Thundercock no it isnt
@@HugoStiglitz88 ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE
@@Chadius_Thundercock*somehow Palpatine returned*
And years later, that little boy became Willem "War Criminal" Blackwood.
The Chad that was promised
Nah he ain’t no Chad. Chad was the other guy who got stabbed. Rhaenyra seemed to enjoy his bullying.
the war criminal that was promised
the dog that was promised
Sir Willem "fuck around and find out" Blackwood
Simp at 13, simp at 33.
Gerrold seemed to have been killed in the scene..but I bet he's got a sibling who's the current lord bracken and wants revenge
Lio Willem became everyones second favourite character in just 2 mins of screentime
Second? Wtf you mean? He is the favorite. Aemond is 2nd favorite, daemon is least favorite
Willem Blackwood AKA Li'l Gigachad
The thumnail of the guy with the sword looks exactly like the main screen for Kingdom come Deliverance, the memories.
I think HotD changed the original names in order to use Amos and Samwell later in the timeline during the Dance of the Dragons. That small change creates a lineage of conflict between Rival Houses on screen.
Only if we are meant to believe Willem Blackwood is the younger brother to Samwell or not part of the main branch (if older brother he would have to be just slightly older in order for the timeline to work). Since it’s Samwells son Benjicot (a lad of 14 by the end of the dance) who is mostly in the story and since it’s only been 17 years since the duel it doesn’t really make sense that 2 generations have been born. I mean let’s say Willem was 13 being generous he has his son around a year or two later that would make his son 15 and just now having a son of his own so Benjicot would be 1-2 when he’s suppose to be 12 at the start of the dance. I don’t mind if it’s just a name change though as long as the story is good. The whole point of the book as a unreliable narrator is you having to piece together the story from vague information on important events so it makes sense that some names and even events would be different.
@@KingOfWinter
Names being different is a huge thing in historical books and quite easy to check as proud houses keep lists of their Lords.
The show is just not book canon. Martin has already said that there is book canon and show canon. The show is canon to the other show but not canon for the books. But clickbait UA-camrs only keep the "show is canon" part.
@WERTYUIO821. Oh yeah I don’t hold this as boom canon but the showrunner is a real fan and is trying to stay as close to the books as possible so I assume he has a plan. Though I did assume that for D&D too and we all know how that went lol.
Yeah proud houses have records but how can we really trust those records especially when really proud houses try tracing their lineage back to literally gods. Maybe you can trust 3-4 generations back but anything further than that and you’re working with the honor system and that isn’t something I would trust 100% but still I see your point and concede lol
@@KingOfWinter
Unfortunately the showrunner is not close to the books. Spoiler alert.
Laena's death in the books was very very sad. She lost her son and because of grief she got sick. Daemon brought her the Maester of Dragonstone and the Maester of Driftmark but they couldn't help her.
The way they changed it to the show was a betrayal to her character.
It was one of the saddest scenes they could have instead they changed just to make some anger against Daemon? Make Laena forgettable? Both? I don't know.
I really hope they don't change Silverwing's scene with Vermithor as well. If they do that one well, they can legitimately get the saddest scene in all of TV series.
@WERTYUIO821. Oh I’m obsessed with all things ASOIAF. So you don’t have to spoiler warn me though I do thank you for looking out. Yeah he has changed a lot but I have heard he’s a real fan of the books nonetheless. You take chances and sometime you hit gold and sometimes it’s crap. Like I personally like the House Valyrion change and Aemond not meaning to kill his nephew change but I agree laena’s death was horrible. But they absolutely did it to show she had “agency” in her death since earlier it showed king Viserys saying to save the child which “killed” his wife and they were showing how a “strong” woman would not go out like that. Though I would argue a truly strong woman wouldn’t want her child to die so she could live but that’s just politics and Hollywood loves putting it’s politics in stories where they should just stay out of it and do it like the fans want.
Oh I hope they don’t change that either and I hope they bring Daeron into the show. I would love a alternate history where Jace is king and Daeron is hand and the families worked together instead of fought but that’s just the summer child in me lol
Been watching your videos for years now, but just now realized I Nevers subbed. So more than happy to now, keep up the great content!
The man was straight GOATED from that 1 scene.
If Rhaenyra's kids are brats, I wonder what you'd call Alicent's boys.
2/3 landed tails. Truthfully Daeron would have probably made the best ruler out of all the characters in the story.
@@realjwu860 we're hopefully going to see him in the next season. He's supposed her best boy. I think Luke and Jace are just fine as well. I liked Daemon too but what he did to Halaena's son, I hated that. Killing an innocent is not the way n ik Luke was an innocent too but either Aegon or aemond should have been assassinated but I suppose that they needed the drama. Whenever I think of Halaena's son, I never think of him as Aegon's son, only Halaena's, the kid deserved better as did Halaena. And Alicent deserved the absolute worst and Otto and Larys deserve Ramsay or Cersei style torture.
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It's Rheanyra and Daemon who deserve that kind of torture, not Larys or Otto.
Not a book reader but I don't know for sure but I can say from the show that Rhaenyra's kids are just a blank state while Alicent's kids are much more interesting, Aegon is a man who does not want to fulfill his duties and is forced to adjust to this environment, Halaena is a dragon rider and a dreamer, Aemond is a man who's brutal and skilled and would do anything for his family.
Alicent family is pure toxicity, i feel like rhaenyra and viserys really loved her children but alicent was detached from them bcs she was forced to conceive them
They're about to start filming in the next couple of months for season 2
Blackwood laid Brackens gut open. Doubt he’s coming back from that haha
I cant wait for Benjicott Blackwood and “The Lads” towards the end!
4:23 is that bloodraven and bittersteel
i completely forgot this scene ever happend
give us Bloodraven vs Bittersteel, maybe people would actually care for this age old family feud.
thanks again and again for minding spoilers, love your content
How come the Bracken didn’t have a sword? He only had a dagger, no wonder he lost.
In an age where honor and face is everything, that poor kid (heir to oldstones) kinda had to do something when the heir to fairmarket literally named him craven. Remember when Fingolfin rode up to Angband and challenged Morgoth to a 1v1 fight and then named him Craven in front of all of his lieutenants thus forcing him to accept?
Wtf? Am i High or what?
@@davosseaworth9479 yes
I know the second half is LOTR since Fingolfin and Morgoth. But the first half is wrong, Blackwood are the lords of Raventree not Oldstones and Brackens were the lord of Stone Hedge not fairmarket
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You’re right! Old stones are ruins, I was going off of my map
Well this was good until Willem got his head chopped off by the King consort 😅
Cool that the Blackwoods don't bear the Starks a grudge and turned out the most staunch loyalists in the Riverlands
“You are your own worst enemy” has never fit anyone better than Rhaenyra
If Willem comes back from that WHOLE sword stabbing-he is a zombie. He will be the Living Dead because NO way is he living through that.
lil dude wasn't having no disrespect. Boss
Hello whycreate, do you think you could do some updated map details videos? It would be cool to see more of the details and lands of the minor houses that inhabit the kingdoms, and maybe some lore/history behind them. I just watched the Crownlands video again and its like 70% history of Kings Landing and 30% on the actual crownlands, and it doesn't even mention House Hayford :(. I know some of these houses aren't the most fascinating, but most at least have lore bits, and it'd be cool to see an updated actual detailed map of the lands.
Just a request! Thank you for making all this content!
The Blackwoods were known for being *tall* and slim/lean.
welcome back!
Willem probably be dead by a Bracken but not until leaving an heir named Benjicot in the care of his sister, the Lady Blackwood. Then the North arrives
If the Brackens could be proven to having poisoned a heart tree, then their family should be attainted and all of their holdings surrendered to House Blackwood.
I bet if Daemon was there, he'd giggle and place thuglife glasses and thuglife gold chains around kid badass😅
House Blackwood > House Bracken
Well what can house bracken do when the author himself has a massive boner for house blackwood
Fax
All day everyday!
House blackwood= fanfic
House bracken = can do no right
There's no choice to be made because GRRM already made it for you
Well yeah it's totally not a match Bracken only have 1 cool character while Blackwood have atleast 3.
Craven must've been like a curse word back in those days I always think of the character from Underworld when I hear it
It’s basically calling someone a coward and with how important a persons honor was at this time those would be fighting words
we will see this kid at harrenhall bargaining with daemon targaryen in episode 0204 The Red Dragon and the Gold.
And then beheaded by daemon 3 episodes later.
It was probably just to add some air of mystery in the show. Shows don't always have to translate page to film 100% accurately. Sometimes little detail changes can make the most powerful affect on the show, in a positive manner.
The Last Of Us is the most recent example of changes from the source material to film being for the betterment of the project.
As long as the showrunners do the source material justice, then I'm all for it. A simple name change could also add much more spontaneity to the show. Since we know what will happen in the books, this can be fun to watch in live action, as we don't know it will happen exactly as it was written.
Plus it also factors into how the books were written. With Fire and Blood being comprised of third party information, there is room for interpretation and play on some accords.
Fantastic video keep it up your doing amazing job
I really do hope they do not change Bloody Benjicot Blackwoods name
House Blackwood also spawned the best character in all of ASOIAF Lord Bloodraven Brynden Rivers
I hope he shows off next season as a skilled fighter and loyal to the Targaryen's
Both are Targaryen's which side you mean?
If I remember correctly, it was a Bracken knight who won the duel.
How dare you call Samwell a coward? The first human to slay an Other in living memory? Shame on you
Half-Assisted suicide
i think you got it wrong when rhaenyra said "i quite like that one".
i think she meant the kid, having said that he was a child so he wasn't really considered.
she said that after Jerrel Bracken called Blackwood a dumb C. She was favoring Jerrel at that moment.
A Song of Ice and Fire Book Five: A Dance with Dragons
(After Jaime ends the siege in Riverrun and ensures the loyalty of the Blackwoods by taking one of their sons as a hostage and one daughter from the Brackens)
"So we go on century after century. with us hating the Brackens and them hating us. My father says there will never be an end to it."
- Hoster Blackwood (Jaime's hostage)
"There could be."
- Jaime Lannister
"How, my lord? The old wounds never heal, my father says."
- Hoster Blackwood
"My father had a saying too. Never wound a foe when you can kill him. Dead men can't claim vengeance."
- Jaime Lannister
"Their sons do."
- Hoster Blackwood
"Not if you kill their sons as well. Ask the Casterlys about that if you doubt me. Ask Lord and Lady Tarbeck, or the Reynes of Castamere. Ask the Prince of Dragonstone."
- Jaime Lannister
"Is that why you killed all the Starks?"
- Hoster Blackwood
"Not all, Lord Eddard's daughters live. One has just been wed. The other...." (Brienne, where are you? Have you found her?) "... if the gods are good, she'll forget she was a Stark. She'll wed some burly blacksmith or fat faced innkeep, fill his house with children, and never need to fear that some knight might come along to smash their heads against a wall."
- Jaime Lannister
"The gods are good."
-Hoster Blackwood
(You go on believing that.)
- Jaime Lannister's thought
17 years later he’ll turn into Robert the Bruce?
No way he survived tbh
Yea jerrell bracken died idk wtf ur talking about him being casted
House blackwood is a fanfic house.
I hope Willem keep a slim and slender figure so he's the quick on his feet type of fighter to oppose the massive Jerrel who'll definitely carry some trauma from that encouter they have at Storm's End. Exciting things to look forward.
this guy is gonna pop off and be a menace
😂 Yep War Criminal
I was genuinly surprised by this scene
The Lady Mormont of House of the Dragon.
You have the most soothing voice on all of UA-cam
5 bucks says the dude did die and his brother is the name from the book and is a lord who is William’s rival
Rhaenyra has Criston Cole with her, who could difusse the situation. Instead... Rhaenyra runs away like a craven.
He's meant to protect her, not break up petty disputes. Her leaving when swords are drawn is self-protection, she's the heir to the throne, not some maid or something.
@@crayolaclouds2696She could’ve ordered him to stop the fight, the kingsgaurd do what they’re commanded. Also it wasn’t dangerous for her since they were just dueling each other, instead of keeping the peace between two of her future bannermen she fled like the foolish teenager she was
wainting to see his heir, Bloody Ben Blackwood
Calling his kids bastards takes guts, which he'll promptly examine
lol, dude brought a dagger to a sword fight.
My question is if the book is opposite if Amos the one stab Samwell by a Sword then how would Benji Blackwood get born?
Emma D’Arcy is waaay to homely to be “the realms delight” more like “the realms butter face”
Hahaha that's hilarious. Welcome to the world of anyone can be anything weather they are skilled or not. Really sucks. The quality of acting in shows has fell off a cliff
Wait something just occurred to me, did Lord Baratheon give them Guest Right ? If he did so wouldn’t that mean Willem broke guest right or was it being a duel negate it ?
Also I am curious if that situation will have affect in who supports Rheanerys ?
If I remember my lore correctly, guess right is specifically between host and guest, and since Lord Baratheon (and arguably Rhaenyra, as the gathering was for her) were hosts, while both the Bracken and Blackwood were guests, I'm not sure guest right even applies to the situation.
@@krisr3868 I thought it would still apply since isn’t a part of guest right assuring the person of their safety ?
Guess right are usually secured under the "offering of salt and bread".....and also I believe it was intended for overnight guest, but maybe not on the latter
I guess since Jerrel Bracken drew his own weapon and closed in with Willem it was considered an impromptu duel. No way Baratheon would allow one of his guests to just murder another of his guests.
@@richardtouchstone5508 There's a good chance I'm wrong about this, and you make a good point about the safety assurance
You have to Love this guy
it was memorable... are either portrayed in the new trailer?
Let go Benjicot Blackwood, Ben of the bloody blade
the kid was a badass
but isnt the bracken guy dead
Why were the Blackwood's chased down by the Starks?
They were rivals first Blackwoods were kings of wolfswood in that time the starks diffeted them then they came to riverlands
Brynden rivers(bloodraven) mother is a Blackwood, so Willem is a pretty recent relative. Also Aegor bittersteel, another bastard of Aegon the IV, mother is a Bracken. They kept the beef going 😂
Can’t wait to meet the see house Blackwood again
I’m just hoping they don’t go too far from the source material when it comes to the Lads (Samwells son and the Tully Children)
Very much dislike that you stated that Samwell was the ultimate coward. The point of his story is that once he had something he loved he became courageous, because he had to be. Unfortunately the show ruined him
He will totally wreck the greens together with Cregan Stark and the lads
His sister and his son may played important roles in the future wars.
Show wiki state that "Dance" in show started in 132y. Show universe has its own timeline like in GoT every season is 1 year so in season eight it's 305y, but in last book It's still 300y. I like your video, but i don't think you can mix cannon from book universe written by Martin and show cannon, which is basically fanfic written by scriptwriter and made on studio.
So, is this Bracken clan is the founder of Ferrari in the book?
Rhaenyra should’ve married Willem Blackwood