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What Could Have Been: Neill Blomkamp's Alien 5
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- Опубліковано 8 сер 2024
- Taking a look back at Neill Blomkamp's rejected Alien 5 film, a direct follow-up to Aliens. Plus, discover the lost opportunity of a legendary collaboration between Ridley Scott and James Cameron, as they were set to bring their unique visions to the beloved franchise.
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0:00 Intro
1:20 James Cameron
2:35 Neill Blomkamp
4:44 Alien: Engineers
6:10 Prometheus
7:32 Deleted Scenes
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I always thought that Alien 3 completely undermined all that occurred in the film Aliens. Newt and Hicks endured so much to survive only to be killed in their cryogenic pod as they were sleeping leaving Ripley once again the sole survivor. Horrible concept.
Agreed!
Get over it jeez. 🙄 still bitching about it 30 years later.
Far as I'm concerned, Alien 3 was all just a bad hypersleep nightmare dreamt by Ripley.
Nah... Alien 3 just stinks...blew a great sequel or 3.....I'll never watch another 1
Sigourney Weaver was a huge factor in Hicks and Newt getting killed off. She didn't want Ripley to have a "family".
This will always be one of the most tragic cinematic what ifs in my mind right below star wars
Along with superman 2, 3 and 4
@@GavinScrimgeourI was thinking Spiderman too...
if it's any consolation, it would have been terrible
SO TRUE
facts. The saddest part is Scott was so jealous that Alien 5 was asked about more in interviews than his awful prequels. He claims there wasnt a script and many involved have said otherwise including Cameron Weaver Blomkamp and one of the concept artists that worked on what we have seen.
I hope Fox allows Blomkamp to release his version as a graphic Novel, with that Concept Artist, I would buy that Book!!
Couldn't be any worse than Chappie or any more overrated than District 9....Although that LMFAO Ripley wearing an Alien disguise sound stupid and alot like someone playing with their action figures.
It will never stop being hilarious how Alien 3 took the biggest most shocking risk a sequel could, yet people cry about it taking that risk and, in the same breath cry about how sequels never take any chances or do anything shocking.
@@lutherheggs451 Chappie, Elyisum, and District 9 really aren't that bad. He just can't write properly.
@@lutherheggs451 Alien 3 failed for more reasons than just taking risks. Everyone involved agrees it was a misfire.
There's an interview where Blomkamp is asked about why it didn't happen and at one point while trying to explain it he literally just says there was no way for him to talk about it without bashing on Ridley Scott. Scott did downplay his movie and insisted Alien: Covenant should be made instead. Sigourney Weaver seemed pissed about it too.
same that ive seen also. There are videos of interviewers more interested in asking Scott about Alien 5 than his prequels and he looks pissed off.
Covenant sucked so bad too
@@AmariLambo Prometheus was worse than Covenant.
@@Merknilash this
We should give that old man a good lesson, boycott all his movies. F up old grunt.
@2:34 “I may honestly never get over this” bro SAME
Damn, Ripley in a alien exo suit in battle with a queen would have legit been a great scene. Imagine her with a tail under her control and leaping
LOL😂
Her in that suit seems more how a toy would look rather than a real human being. Compare it to He-man, so please no.
It would have been the dumbest fucking thing.
This sounds horrible I'm glad it didnt get made. Go see predator from shane black and tell me thats what you want
Who knew that the most well-received element of Alien 3 was the teaser trailer indicating the xenomorph would finally make its way to Earth.
And it had the absolute perfect tagline: “on Earth, everyone can hear you scream!”
Neil Blomkamp's cancelled film sounds like it could've been the best one!
He proved to be a one trick poney though so maybe it's for the best that it didn't happen.
@@tylerdordon99 amen to that.
Nah, not too impressed with what I've seen from him. Alien 3 is the best one this far, don't erase it.
@@earthcitizen3939bro must be on drugs or 8 years old
It sounds like it’s turning Ripley into a super hero…the xeno suit is the dumbest shit.
As a fan of the second Aliens film, I wanted a sequel, a real sequel. Not a prequel. I envisioned Ripley, Hicks, and potentially Newt going up against the Weyland corporation. Imagine Ripley coming back to Earth and discovering that the company now has its own Alien hive. Her worst nightmare come to reality, and an opportunity to avenge her crew.
Too bad it won’t happen.
"I envisioned Ripley, Hicks, and potentially Newt going up against the Weyland corporation."
Nah, I think that it's too much of a repetition, let the franchise develop instead of taking X steps back. Not that the prequels are great, but at least they tried something new.
@@earthcitizen3939 I don't agree that simply trying something new for the sake of that alone, carries any sort of intrinsic value.
@@jasonleveck8546 Yeah, it depends on how you do it.
@@earthcitizen3939 I remember when they announced the prometheus movies and how it was gonna be about our origins and the "gods" and fairly quickly was not excited about it. Some folks really liked them and others hated those films. For me it was a miss. I saw Aliens in the theater back in 86' and have loved that movie ever since. I believe Scott tried to rip-off to much other source material for the promethean films and it just didn't work for me personally.
@@jasonleveck8546 The prequels are tricky, there are things in them that I like and things that are *meh*. I think that the Engineers were s good addition. Each prequel look good and I also like the idea of the black goo.
Unfortunately most characters lack personality and it became about androids. The idea that David created the monster is an interesting idea but makes too close to humans (humans-android-monster). Scott and Fox interfered too much. The idea to cut out important scenes for run-time is bad.
Both prequels get 2/5 from me
Ya know? I always did love Prometheus and it was pretty heavy in its Sci Fi/ metaphysical leanings more than any of the other movies; and that to me was a ver good thing. Now you’ve helped me see why it wasn’t as well received when it should’ve been. You’re absolutely right. Had the Alien name not been attached to it, this movie might’ve been looked at differently.
💯 I think people would’ve loved it if it was a standalone sci-fi film
Proenthetus is great even as an alien film . Leaving the Jesus Christ stuff in there would have been really cool though
Prometheus wasn’t well received because using rank stupidity as a plot device to advance the narrative doesn’t work if the characters you are depicting as too stupid to live are all supposed to be actual scientists. 🙄
@julianmitchell5776 great? How about good. People throw great around too easily.
@@Resist_Oppression
Good? How about not so good? Astronauts taking off their helmets on unknown planets, navigators with advanced drone mapping technology getting lost, astronauts trying to pet unknown alien creatures. And that's just the first prequel.
I thought that Prometheus and Covenant would've been better if they were set in the universe but removed the aliens and just focused on the androids. They were underdeveloped in the first films and it was always just laid out that these synthetic humans exist and do what they're told instead of the fears of AI.
I'd like to see Neil Blomkamps Alien movie one of these days it can still happen I think I would like his vision of what an Alien movie would be like. The artwork is very impressive
No thanks, it's too much of a repetition. I'm done with Ripley, time to try something else, even though she was great in 1, 2, and 3.
@@earthcitizen3939 Yup, the franchise is the ALIEN franchise, not the RIPLEY franchise. People stick too much to their beloved protagonists, which cripples the franchise options to go new pathes and try out new things. Same with Terminator, if people wouldn't be SO fixated on Arnie playing a T-800 "or I won't watch the movie", the studio might have tried something new, instead of trying to replicate T2 over and over and over again.
@@NKA23 Yeah, I don't love the prequels but at least they tried something new. I like the Engineers, and it was interesting to see new monsters, it looked good, and the black goo was interesting (Prometheus handled it better). Unfortunately most characters were not well done with the exception of David and Janek (in Prometheus, didn't like Shaw). AC had Faris and Oram, the other humans were poorly made and the female lead (Daniels) was too close to Ripley.
Unfortunately Covenant got rid of the Engineers and was too much about the androids plus most of the human characters (as with Prometheus) had no personality. Putting some of the deleted scenes in there would improve both a bit.
I've only watched T1 and T2, not the rest. They had at least two cyborgs in T2 so why must Arnold be in all of them? Hopefully they'll have new things that make sense and that expand the franchise.
Oh well
Ripley and Hicks both surviving is too nice for the Alien universe sure it makes a good ending to ALIENS but as far as making a sequel with Hicks in it, nah.
Alien 3 was pretty bad but I agree with killing Newt and Hicks depressing but necessary
@@NKA23. Here’s the thing. If the protagonist isn’t engaging you end up with empty Shaw. Who cares whether the characters survive? Or when they get killed. Aliens 3 was a dud. Scott Bakula’s “ Enterprise”. The lesson is despite all the horrible situations you work through, life is a horror…and then you die!
Please,sir, may I have some more?
The true definitive timeline is Alien, Alien Isolation, Aliens, & Blomkamp’s Alien ; ain’t no changin my mind
The first AVP movie isn't bad, and doesn't break canon. People are waaay too hard on it.
Hate to break it to you but your mind is wrong and lost. We have what we have. Prometheus, Alien Covenant, Alien, Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection. It happened.
@@gamingoutlaws9765 Sigourney Weaver is 74 my guy, she’s too old at this point to reprise the role. Ellen’s story is dead
The continued ability of Damon Lidelof to get writing work astonishes me
How old are you that you're still astonished by cronyism?
He really is the worst. I can enjoy most movies and shows on some level, but anytime I don't... hey, there's his name in the credits.
Him David S Goyer
him, orci and kurtzman are the holy trinity of hack writers lol
@@MarsofAritia A few years back I would have totally agreed however Lindelof then went on to make two bangers in Leftovers and Watchmen. The guy CAN write great, the further he gets away from the Abram's mystery box clique. He is LIGHTYEARS better than Orci or Kurtzman. I hate Kurtzman most, I cannot believe that hack was given the reins to Star Trek over Bryan Fuller.
Those concepts for neil's alien movie are nothing short of creative. The RC xenomorphs being guided by the marine was interesting. Just wish ridley would take a backseat completely and let someone else have creative control.
Agreed. He's still overseeing Romulus I believe.
@@Bulletsandblockbusters Yes and this is troubling to me he can F off imo with this franchise right now.
I still want Neil Blomkamp to do a direct sequl with Sigourney as Ripley directly from Aliens . The other prequals or sequals could be just nightmares that Ripley has in stasis before she wakes up in shock.
Weaver is now 74 years old... ain't gonna happen.
What JP5466 said, Weaver is too old to reprise that role now. Plus Chappie was not great and District 9 was okay at best. Blomkamp’s Alien 5 would have been a mid movie
All the filling in of back stories and details does take all the mystery out of things .
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Exactly. Both sequels are terrible
One of the reasons that Prometheus and it's sequel suck, in my mind. Don't always have to explain everything and especially when you're trying to basically pigeon hole God or some race of creators as a stand-in for God. It comes off cheap to me.
exactly how I feel.
@@jasonleveck8546 Read my comments above totally agree.
I remember seeing some concept art for Alien 5 that showed a grown up Newt in a military outfit and with a gun, implying she would have a role in the movie too. Who knows what would have happened though.
I’m sure it would have better than resurrection, but Chappie was not great and District 9 was okay at best. His vision of Alien 5 would have been just okay as well
Neil Blomkamp's film would've been a massive hit! I've seen the art works, I've seen the film's storyline and even some of the first writings of the script. It would, I know, have been a gamble to have suddenly released it after Alien 3 & 4 and kind of blowing them away. But as they were both two crocks of crud anyway it wouldn't have been difficult to forget them entirely and re-open the gates for more successful and in-depth films to come along. When we look at the "Terminator" franchise and see the successful storyline there, and then compare that to the Alien disasters? It's not too difficult to see which comes out on top, is it? No. My view is that the fault lies in two camps, the studio bosses and the writer / directors. Both need to wake up, somehow learn not to be too greedy (tough call there!) And to realise that there is a HUGE audience out there, desperate for a follow-on film /s to carry the story on PROPERLY!! And that doesn't mean chopping and changing it, throwing out different stories (the new film, once due for release this year, now to be launched Aug 24, AND a TV series! Neither of those have any connection to the other, and neither have any connection to the films!! WTF??!)
Ridley Scott should be ashamed of himself for letting this totally brilliant concept / story slide down the pan in the way that it has. Why / how he didn't see the REAL opportunities with this golden idea of what was there? The endless possibilities? The fact that SPACE ITSELF is a constant, and fast growing fascination on its own? I'll never know!! He and David Cameron both had possibly the best, ultimate and sure fire winner all the way with this utterly brilliant concept of Alien life at their hands. Bring in Blomkamp's ingenuity and masterfull imagination, and then combine all 3 and 💥 BOOM!!💥 YOU GOT OSCAR WINNING FILMS IN
A B U N D A N C E
AND, a very satisfied and loyal audience of proper fans. But, maybe we, the ones who pay for these films, those who wait in exasperated patience, and receive only drivel and limply produced, directed, and sometimes, talentless actors? We don't really matter. Our views don't really matter. But our cash does...
And that is sickening.
It must have been pretty bad ass, when you consider Cameron was gonna collaborate on it and Weaver and the rest of the cast were absolutely excited for it. That basically never happens with very established stars who don't just need a paycheck.
No it wouldn't......1 and 2 that's it let it die.
@@ekspatriat at this point the prometheus failures end up being to convoluted. I do believe Blomkamp had a high level premise and that it was gonna be very respectful of the source material. There is just so much trash being made anymore, it's probably better off for the franchise to sit.
Lot of the comic material from Dark Horse could eventually be utilized and sort of take off on it's own. Probably too late for Weaver and company to ever do a big actioner again.
@@jasonleveck8546 agreed I saw somewhere that Scott claims there was no real script but Weaver Cameron Blomkamp and the concept artist have said otherwise. Scott was jealous more were interested in 5 than his half assed ego prequel nonsense.
I love alien and I love neill blomkamp and I was really hyped for this when it was announced...
Im a massive fan of the 2013 Evil Dead, so Fede Alvarez doing an Alien film excites me. I really hope it turns out good
Yeah but Scott being involved also scares the shit out of me tbh.
Vasquez is the foster mum in terminator 2
I never put that together before! TIL
She's a mum in titanic too
OMIGOD Ripley, Hicks, Newt, Cameron and Scott all together.... you just ruined my day.
😂
I like how AVP directly implies and even shows that the Yautja (Predators), taught Humans the art of warfare, trained them in the hunt, and told them how to build pyramids.
They led humans away from the path of the Engineers.
-but also, the Yautja have been preparing humanity. They don't have Invasion intentions; they've been training us to not only be worthy prey, but to one day help fight in a massive galactic conflict against the Engineers. This is also why the Yautja religiously train against one of the Engineers' main weapons: Xenomorphs.
Humans and Yautja are basically frenemies, with occasional Android allies.
Engineers have their own factions, sometimes "allied" with Xenomorph.
-though, Xenomorphs are basically a force of nature with their own agenda.
There are a couple other species/factions with roles to play in the lore, but these are the main ones.
The shared universe is actually quite well balanced. It would make a fantastic MMO.
I'm one of the few morons who are still holding out hope that they will decide to do Neal's film.
😂
Sigourney Weaver has come out and said she's too old to do that film now unfortunately.
@@johnmarc1986 With James Cameron attached they could deage the characters because he has the name, money and will to develop the technology. Besides having Cameron name in it would be enough to make billions and even win special FX oscar
Not if they erase Alien 3, not interested in the family-thing.
@@Sergiovsousa Unfortunately Jim is too busy making Avatar movies......
I think Terminator Dark Fate has jaded me just a bit towards sequels like this. The situations shared many similarities: retconning unpopular canon from a previous film(s), returning franchise favorite characters to the fold, original directors back at the helm, yet Dark Fate which should have been a layup was completely botched. So I’ve a bit less faith now that Alien 5 would’ve worked 🤷♂️ of COURSE I would love to be wrong though
Ya I was shocked it was so bad considering Cameron was involved but also how many times can you tell the same story?
Terminator fans have always wanted a full on future war type movie that leads up to the first one. The closest we got was Salvation. 3, Genysis, and Dark Fate were just complete rehashing dumpster fires.
Alien/Aliens fans wanted to see Ripley, Newt, and Hicks finally have some sort of life together (even if it's later disturbed by the aliens). The closest we got to that was the original Earth War trilogy from Dark Horse comics.
If the studios are so money hungry, then give the people what they want. Easy peasy lemon squeezy.
This film should've happened. At least release it in comic or videogame form a la the Ghostbusters videogame.
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@@chrishouk5796 They should have just committed to continuing the trajectory from Salvation, and finished the future-war trilogy as planned. It was supposed to show the direct development of the purple laser future; over the trilogy they'd transition to fighting mostly at night, etc.
It's not too late, if they can get Christian Bale back and mostly ignore the events of Salvation. A sequel, but not a *direct* sequel.
Hell, they could even do it without Bale. John has been recast enough times that it shouldn't be an issue.
They changed the original Prometheus concept because it had no sequel potential, plain and simple. Having an airtight prequel, explaining how the company knew about the Derelict, would have been too neat for todays producers. Not enough franchise butchering there.
Bingo!
The ALIEN: ENGINEERS script was still a million times better than what we got. What's ironic is that for all the fanboy gushing over the Engineers, their backstory was actually more interesting in the ENGINEERS script.
Of all the unmade movies over the years, this one is hands down the most heartbreaking to me. The concept arts are amazing visuals and they had so many original and new ideas never explored in any of the prior movies. And it would've ignored the shittier Alien movies as noncanon. It would've been a resurrection than Resurrection was. You can tell Neil Blompkamp was really passionate about the project and is a talented filmmaker. His story was so good, it made Sigourney Weaver want to return (after years of her saying she didn't wanna return since Resurrection left a bad taste in her mouth) which would seem impossible to pull off. He even wanted to make a Robocop sequel and it too sounded awesome. Why is Hollywood f*cking over this guy's talent by not producing his ideas!?! F*cking assholes. F*cking idiots!
3 & 4 should have been nothing more than cryosleep nightmares.
I got to admit even as a kid back when alien 3 came out i was also not pleased hickes and newt deaths
Makes me want to weep for what could have been!
Same
@@Bulletsandblockbusters Aliens is my favourite movie ever. I devoured the paperback novelisation before seeing it in the cinema back in the 80’s. There had never been a film - except the original Alien - I had wanted to see more.
Damn. It sucks when they sh*t the bed with a follow up to your fav movie.
Despite the hatred, I loved Alien Resurrection and it's possibly my favourite if taken as an alternate version of events.
This concept for Aliens 5 with Arnie, even if it dismissed 3 & 4, could have been great though.
I do however feel that the Xenomorph creation was explained perfectly in the first Aliens vs Predator film and doesn't need any other explanation.
The whole idea that the Predators genetically engineered the Aliens for the ultimate hunt (although maybe the engineering could've been a simple
process and the Xenomorphs continued to evolve on their own) is one of the most incredible and perfect ideas ever conceived.
I’m still heartbroken by Neill not getting his version of an Alien movie, I feel he truly understood the material and would have made a great follow up to Aliens 😢
in the original comics by Dark Horse , it is a direct sequal to Aliens the movie. Riply is missing , Hicks is a scarred vet with PTSD & Newt is in an asylum . because the coporation covered the whole thing up. then another Alien threat emerges . but after the release of Alien 3 film they edited later release's of the TPBs so they were different characters . But I still consider the original versions to be true sequals to the Aliens film
A good cross over would be Sigourney with Aliens meeting Arnold as Dutch with Predators !!
Now that would be a great movie !!
Ripley, Newt, Hicks, Bishop, Dutch and Harrigan, along with the escaped prisoners from the «Air Prison», find themselves on a predator planet. That's also where the xenomorphs find themselves ...
I really like Alien 3 and as much as j would've loved to see Newt, Hicks, and MORE of Bishop - I thought and consider Alien 3 to be the end of the series. I didn't bother watching anything past it and I'm glad.
Also I saw and only rewatch the Assembly Cut not the Theatrical Cut
Alien, Aliens then Alien Isolation. That's it for me.
Being denied Blomkamp's Alien 3 should be considered a crime against humanity.
I love Alien 3. It was the scariest of the trilogy when I was a kid. Now I appreciate the direction and nihilistic tone, especially the assembly cut.
Disagree
Agree
Ugh, no. Alien 3 was trash. First time I ever fell asleep in a theater. Catching it later on cable, I was still disappointed and bored.
@haletosis1380 I never watch a movie I think is "trash" more than once, myself. Huh.
The best movie in the franchise
The fact that Alien 5 got cancelled for the disaster that is Covenant is insane to me. Even though the original Alien 3 was great imo, we could've gotten the true ending to the franchise we always wanted if the studio was actually smart enough to listen to the fans.
Aliens will always be my FAVORITE MOVIE!!!
It's a good movie, but I prefer 3 and 1 (in that order).
This would have been nuts !
I honestly can’t believe we haven’t seen Ellen Ripley again fighting against the aliens from all the cancelled ideas James working on a script to Neil ideas so many amazing ways to see her comeback but no seriously with how much requels there are now why haven’t we seen Ellen Ripley it’s madness
Good point. She almost did the blonkamp film a few years back but you can thank Ridley for killing that
@@Bulletsandblockbusters sad times at least we have Aliens so her story can end happy ig I don’t mind Alien 3 but I think Neil idwa was better having Ellen get revenge and not killing Newt and Hicks in the opening but have them fight with her etc I think Neil’s ideas were an expansion on Aliens the family dynamic action going to earth and Ellen fighting not just the queen but Weyland was a perfect conclusion to me its Alien, Isolation, Aliens, (personally fan wishes Alien Isolation 2 and Neil script that the timeline to me personally I don’t mind including Prometheus but yeah I loved Alien isolation and Aliens seeing Amanda and Ellen so a sequel to them would be perfect sadly no but Neil script can be a comic or make it anyway Disney it’s a fan demanded hyped up thing now it’s not even spoiled so someone do it as a comic movie anything let us have a conclusion to Ellen then do Rhombus idk. Thanks for the vid anyway
We already have four Ripley-movies, it gets old after a while. Even though the prequels were so and so, at least they tried something else.
1:53 Alien Vs Predator was inevitable. Cameron really missed a big wave there. Could have been the most epic movie cross-over ever. Could still happen, though with lesser excitement and novelty because it's been done. Hope Cameron or Scott do another Alien (though I didn't enjoy Scott's Prometheus and its sequel much, unfortunately). If they do any more, I really wish/hope for a revival/continuation of Ripley's story. Sigourney Weaver would need to have less of an action role, being older, but it could still be great.
What makes the whole Alien 3 movie so bad was the interference from the studio who had rejected numerous scripts including one by James Cameron. He was a super hot commodity and moved on to do his own things. As I recall the last minute decision was to take an already written script and turn it into an Alien 3. Finchter was a new director and saw this as his big break but the movie was a mess.
Oh my god, we need this version SO BAD!
Wow. This would have been awesome
This is a great channel
Thanks!
“I honestly may never get over this” same😕🙁☹️
It never exceeded the first. It was a completely different movie in almost every regard except subject matter and a handful of themes. Both were great, but, for different reasons.
Aliens was kinda dumb imo
I never heard about the possibility of Arnie, Cameron, Ridley and Sigourney doing an Alien film together. Thats a crime against cinema to not have had that happen. Sigh
According to rumours from the script writers,Neill Blomkamp movie was about the Sulaco ship
drifting in space after the emergencypods were released.On the ship there were a xenomorph
hidden in the lower basement of the spaceship.After fifty years they are detected by another
ship bringing colonists to a new terraformed planet for humans.They send in two robots to
investigate.They find traces of dna in the ships database,and clones Hicks,Ripley and Newt.
But as clones they don't remember anything of the events that took place in the alien3 movie.
When they arrive at the colonists destinyplanet,the xenomorph starts to lay eggs.
Then all humans on the planets are attacked and a war breaks out.Ripley,Hicks and Newt manages to
escape in a spaceship they find in a cave. It is a engineer spaceship that takes them to the
engineers homeplanet called"Paradise".But when they have left the spaceship,a deacon crawls out
and makes a cliffhanger for a followup movie 😀
Excellent video.
Thank you very much!
I knew i'd been robbed of an awesome movie. SIDE NOTE: The original graphic novel of Alien Versus Predator is actually fantastic, and if they'd shot it as dictated by the frames, it would've been utterly brilliant. Instead, they stole bits and pieces from it in a ham-fisted half-attempt. I'll never forgive them. Go read the original graphic novel!! Its worth your time!
I'll check it out! Thanks!
The Dark Horse comics of Aliens and Predator are fucking amazing.
Yeah! I don't know why they didn't adapt the comic. Sure, it's set on another planet, but it's a desert planet, and most of the action takes place in the colony/facility.
These are not exceptionally expensive sets/locations to design and shoot.
It baffles me, why they chose to go the prequel and earth route with it.
Whilst he has had some misses, his work on District 9 was incredible. I would have loved to seen his take on an Alien film. Gory, great characters and a little humour sprinkled in.
D9 has so much heart, I can remember being so excited hearing he was working on this… really gutted it never came to be
Final Standoff on Earth that is an awesome "What If" Scenario..
Great video. We all wish Ridley hadn't gone off the range and delved into the existential BS story line w/ Covenant, and to some degree Prometheus. I suspect it will be hard to pull fans back into the franchise after such weighty disappointments. But I'm down for something throwback if done correctly and sticks to the original canon.
It’s impossible to make a decent alien movie now. The creature is too overexposed and fear comes from the unknown not from things that are totally familiar.
I wasn't disappointed with 3 or resurrection 😂❤
I like Alien 3, AR isn't good.
I really liked Alien 3! Also loved Chappie and District 9
Personally I think Alien 3 isn't that bad. It's pretty close to the first film with regards to the set up, one Alien on the loose in a confined area with the humans having limited weapons.
It's a dsmn sight better than Prometheous and Covenant, both of which were shat.
AvP is a unfairly ridiculed IMO. It's loyal to both the Alien and Predator mythos.
Nice to hear Cameron agreed with me.
Avp I see as dumb fun. It's not bad. Alien 3 is better than resurrection that's for sure
Maybe do a animated version of Neil’s movie?
Blomkamp's ideas sound like fan fiction I used to make up when I was like eleven. Say what you will about Prometheus & Alien: Covenant, but they weren't trying to retread well voyaged waters. I mean ANOTHER Aliens? Another Ripley battles the queen one on one? Barf.
The beauty of the first film was that it was strange and mysterious, but Aliens just turned everything into action figures. Alien 3 was just a production nightmare, and all things considered, not the worst film on the planet. Don't get me wrong, I used to love Aliens, but the first film was art.
The script for Alien: Isolation would make a good addition to the franchise as a movie.
I would love the franchise to bring it back from the large scale, multiple aliens, guns blazing world to something more akin to the first film. One Alien, more tension, more art.
I've been convinced for years that Blomkamps version of this universe was the one that should have been made. Coulda basically exed out the shitty 3,4th films and got a truly awesome sequel for Aliens. Hell, Cameron even wanted to collaborate with Blomkamp. Instead I got to two stupid and inane Prometheus flicks.
The only thing wrong with Alien3 is that the studio didn't release Fincher's version, instead butchering it.
The main reason people don't like it is that Newt & Hicks were killed off it the beginning ... typical.
Unfortunately, Fincher will never have any more to do with it so a real director's cut is out of the question.
Don't know if you mentioned this but recently I found out why they killed off Newt in the beginning. Apparently it was because the writer or director found her annoying and wanted her to die. And it turns out that other writers and directors wanted her to be killed off as well. As for Hicks, Michael Biehn said that was okwith his character dying as long as he went out in a blaze of glory but obviously that never happened
I find it OK that they didn't have Newt and Hicks in it. Not interested in the family angle.
About "Chappie": when Blomkamp is saying that "the way this film was received played a role in me not working on Alien"... Maybe he don't want to see that Chappie was a disaster. Like in Elysium, he have difficulties rendering good characters. He always direct caricatural ones. I absolutely love "District 9", Blomkamp has some freshness and have strong vision, but jeeze, he needs to upgrade his vision about directing actors. I directed some shortfilms, I know that's can be a difficult task but it's essential to make a great film.
Yeah unfortunately he hasn’t been able to replicate the success of D9
cameron and blomkamp writing? Scott directing? wow... what could have been indeed.
The prequels to Alien might as well be called "Idiots in Spaaace". The sequels after Aliens "Oh Jeez Maybe This Happens?" The obvious tilt was Blomkamp's; Aliens get loose on either Earth or a Wayland-Yutani planet and the fight is on a planetary scale. Newt, Hicks and Ripley are called in to help/or discover what's happening. Maybe the big boss at the end is a queen of queens or similar.
I just keep this very small glimmer of hope that Alien V (Aliens Part II) will some day get made…. Even tho that probably will never happen 😞
This movie sounds sick. Can't wait to see Fede Alvaraz at the helm of Alien: Romulus. Gonna be great
Alien 3 and Prometheus should be stand alone movies outside of the Alien franchise, maybe in an alternative time line we had a successful 3rd installment
Can you link us all the concept art in the video?
Not even two minutes in, and an Alien movie with Cameron & Scott working together has me figuratively salivating. Unfortunately, both directors seem to have egos, so they would probably clash more than cooperate.
Neill Blomkamp needs to do Alien 5 movie and we need to see The Alien King, Xenomorph Prime Planet and other New Alien creatures.
ºI loved Alien 3 and its grim, gritty, depressing setting, in spite of messing up the lore and whole point of Aliens. Resurrection was the bad seed for me, before the horrible prequels. Prometheus was mediocre at best, but its best part was the questions left open to go a whole different route with a very enticing ending, that got completely screwed with Covenant. Seeing the genius that started everything kill his own child in that manner was cruel and sad (and I'm meaning Scott and the franchise). That being said, Blomkamp is a tricky one. Not to say he's a one-trick pony (because some of his Oats short movies are awesome), but he's been everything but consistent since his second one.
Is there another movie franchise whose history is filled with more absolutely BAFFLING decisions than this one? Alien 3 blows my mind in how poorly executed of a concept that was. This channel is the most entertaining heart break I've come across in a long time lol, thank you for the great work!
Haha thanks!
Not trying to be negative, but I've never understood why people like Prometheus or Covenant. Prometheus is all over the place. Alot of the stuff cut from it should have stayed in, that would have help. Covenant is just a carbon copy of Alien. I feel like if they aren't going to really move the story forward they should just stop. Of course with Hollywood that's just not an option.
They're kind of guilty pleasures for me
Arnold vs the Aliens would have been a dream fight bigger than AvP!
I actually think Alien 3 stands up well with the previous two. Massively underrated in my opinion, and the unrelenting grimness of it in my opinion fits well with the theme as this films aren't exactly Snow White.
I think I'm the only person that likes Alien³ and thinks it wraps up the story nicely.
I'm a big fan of Alien 3. It has great atmospherics, a psychological feeling of claustrophobia synonomous with horror, darkish environment, a touch of humour in places. The only bit I don't particularly like is the way they treated Ripley at the end. They could have kept her alive to continue the massive Alien franchise.
No one is unique and special enough to be "the only person" with a specific opinion.
@@englishatheart Um, Disney told me I'm special.
Alien 3 is my favorite in the franchise.
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That’s unreal we never saw that Arnold one
Not sure why everyone hates on alien 3, yeah when I watched as a kid right after Aliens I was so pissed.
Having watched the extended version as an adult, I love the nihilistic horror of it. It’s a good horror movie. The effects do let it down a bit though.
If they could remaster and re-release the extended cut In 4K it would be brilliant.
Alien 3 continuation with ripley and her team would have been great,or a new alien movie with ripley and arnold❤❤❤
"get to the choppaaaaaaaa !!! "
if only .....
All you lemonheads being nostalgic about 2 characters that had about 15 lines of dialogue between them..!
So what that they died? I thought it was an excellent twist. I knew from the get-go that whatever I was about to watch, it was still going to be a story set in the dystopian noir universe that is pretty much the Alien hallmark. The alien has no pity, so why should the writers. Yes, we got a film with lackluster visual effects, which is a shame. But what we didn't get was the excellent Sigourney Weaver being weighed down by 2 mute tag-alongs. Her agency in the first film was to understand and survive. In Aliens, it was to confront and overcome. And in Alien 3, her agency was to deal with hopelessness. How would she react when everything she had fought for had been taken away. Most would shrink into a ball and cry until oblivion took them. But not her. Her determination to rob the Alien queen of its future, in revenge for the future that had been stolen from Ripley was a great spectacle. Alien 3 was a duel to the death. And nothing Newt or presumably a half dead Hicks could do would have made it better.
Plus, Henn had quit acting. So they would have had to re cast anyway, rather defeating the whole point of the lemonheads in the first place.
Alien, Aliens, Alien3, a brilliant trilogy, and entirely above the rest of the mediocrity that was the ensuing Alien franchise.
Alien is my favorite movie of all time, I absolutely adore the sequel as well. The amount of negligence that has taken place with this IP is an absolute heartbreak. Weak movies, absolutely horrendous video games…. (Isolation gets a pass) Single handed one of the scariest possibilities for a creature is realized, in a perfect setting, and they just can’t finish it properly. Resurrection should have been called abomination part 2, sequel to Alien 3.
Blomkamp’s Alien surely would have been a more fitting ending, and a love letter to the only two movies that matter. So sad we will never get it.
Honestly, I kinda love that Ridley Scott enjoyed Alien vs. Predator so much. Sure, it's just a dumb action movie, but it's a really well done dumb action movie, and I've always enjoyed the hell out of it.
I guess I might be the only fan of the franchise who is glad that this project didn't go through. All the Blomkamp films Ive seen I very much liked. No question he is a great director and story teller. And here comes the big BUT: As a great storry teller, he should have been brave and imaginitive enough to find a way to continue where Ressurection left off. And that looks like a cop out for me.
Not basically, litterally and flat out in our faces tell us he is scared to move the story forward and make a fifth installement that from its merit as a movie at all its entirety could be put beside and compared with the first two.
A3 was, drama wise, a tragedy. Having watched both the theatrical and assembly version, the feeling is the same. You can go on and on about details and this and that, but it all comes down to this. Heart renching story with troubled dark characters and ending. But she is Ripley and wouldn't do otherwise. She nuked an entire planet in case you have forgotten. Tragedy and sacrifice. Even though a fictional scifi movie, the story is real. As real as Seven. A3 is severly undarrated.
Ressurection is actually the essence of scifi. Human cloning, splishing DNA in 200+ style from now. Legit. And Ripley actually scores a behind the back basketball shot. I would very much like to see what Ripley's journey has in stall for the Aliens for the story and vice versa.
The quadrilogy so far has developed the Ripley Alien interaction and the story all around in such a way that in my opinion is at its pick. Find a great story to tell with all the knowledge of the past. Directing wise he would have nailed it Im sure. Maybe even better from his Predecessors.
Live long and prosper to all.
No.
No ! It's too painful damnit ! The course these films took messed me up so bad that Alien3 gets better depending on how low my mood is 😳 ...and Dr Shaw 😞 Jesus Ridley 😒
🙃 appreciate your coverage on this, it may be a melancholy topic but it's worth it just for that amazing musical rug-pull for the 20th Century Fox intro - oh, are we not talking about Alien3 ?
See ? Just messed up. Definitely an actual cosmic nightmare 👍😎
I liked the comic book they had that was going to be alien 3, i wish that would be a movie one day but i know it won't happen
According to rumours from the script writers,Neill Blomkamp movie was about the Sulaco ship
drifting in space after the emergencypods were released.On the ship there were a xenomorph
hidden in the lower basement of the spaceship.After fifty years they are detected by another
ship bringing colonists to a new terraformed planet for humans.They send in two robots to
investigate.They find traces of dna in the ships database,and clones Hicks,Ripley and Newt.
But as clones they don't remember anything of the events that took place in the alien3 movie.
When they arrive at the colonists destinyplanet,the xenomorph starts to lay eggs.
Then all humans on the planets are attacked and a war breaks out.Ripley,Hicks and Newt manages to
escape in a spaceship they find in a cave. It is a engineer spaceship that takes them to the
engineers homeplanet called"Paradise".But when they have left the spaceship,a deacon crawls out
and makes a cliffhanger for a followup movie 😀
8:22 Oh, might “Chappie” have changed the studio’s mind about letting Blomkamp helm an “Alien” movie? Gee… who woulda’ thought that turning in a remake of “Short Circuit” that makes the original look like Shakespeare would have brought a $200 million project to a screeching halt? 🙄
I sincerely hope that Blomkamp’s upcoming “Gran Turismo” reignites his career, but there was no way he was ready for making a good Alien movie back then even if he had some good concepts
I loved Prometheus I watch it at least 4 times a year.
Should've done a District 9 sequel, Blomkampt.. after 3 years like the return was said to be in the film.
Alien³ is the TRUE seque to Alien.
So sad Alien 5 didn't happen. Weaver will never come back now !
I'm skeptical about Disney's ability to handle the Aliens franchise after what they did with Star Wars.
Same
Come on Disney princess aliens they could bust into song .
LMAO
@@stevedenis8292 Y'know what? I'd watch that. The xenomorphs could sing with both mouths-- their outer mouths sing in tenor, and the inner mouth being in falsetto.
@@pcdm43145 Yup could take center stage sing a duet.
Alien 3 is my favourite of the franchise.
I gave up on ever seeing a good sequel to Aliens 🥺