Here's a more detailed blog post complete with my current settings for wildlife photography with the M50 - willgoodlet.com/blog/canon-eos-m50-wildlife-camera
Really enjoyed this video! Ive had a M50 mkii for around 7 months now! The reason I use it for wildlife is its small size! It is easy to set up in a tree near a birds nest and use wifi!
couldn't agree more on the experience part. Expert birdwatchers move around with a binocular only. The fact that taking the photo is crippling the experience of viewing it in the moment through clear glass - its not a tradeoff any wildlife enthusiast should take. Thanks for reminding us that!
EF, EFs (and of course M) glass works perfectly well, and my 100-400 on the M50 works just as well as on my 5d or 50d. The real bonus is adapting old FD glass, or nice small and light manual primes like the 7 Artisans range.
With your nose moving the focus point you can actually go into the settings and adjust the drag area so that you can use the right half of the left half the top of the bottom, so if you’re right eye dominant and you’re using the camera you can set the drag area to the right so that your nose is on the leftand not touching the screen
Cuando busco videos informativos sobre una cámara en un estilo de fotografía específico, siempre tengo la espectativa altas. Este video a superado todas. Excelente explicación y análisis. Me encantaría ver más videos así. De ahora en más te seguiré y veré tus contenidos. Espero sigas creando más y muestres un poco de tus trabajos. Saludos desde Paraguay!!
i dont do wild life but i also went from a 5d mkiii for my automotive work and went tot he m50 as a dive to mirrorless and completely switching after seeing that i didnt miss too much, after 6 months of trying both back and forward, i use a speedbooster and a normal adapter if i want more reach. only think i miss is the lowlight(but i use lights for lowlight shooting anyways) and miss my joystick and wheel haha edit i use a smallrig cage to get a better grip since the m50 would also make my pinky go in the bottom and the grip just isnt that good
Without finish watching your video, i did already like the video, it is so descriptive and also feels real, and like you talk from your hard to share this information with people who have ever wonder to use the M50 as a wildlife photography camera, thanks
Heyyyy South Africa shout out! I've been using this little camera for almost a year and my experience so far has been interesting to say the least! I've been adapting vintage lenses to mine and the results are awesome! Can't afford you big Canon glass so I got me a vintage telephoto and been having tons of fun! Thanks for the great video buddy!
Hello Will. I do have the M50 also. I have used it for wildlife photography just to see if I could get decent photos, and I could. But, one should not be in any sort of a hurry to get the photo. That being said, I never leave home without it. I always carry it in my pack with the 55-200mm M lens attached. One never knows when it may be handy to have that focal length. That setup continues to amaze me with the quality of images it can produce. For the cost, I find it to be a real keeper. I got a haircut last month.🤫
Hi Terry, glad to hear you managed to get a haircut and survive. I think I’m going to ask Fiona to do it soon - there may be a bowl involved. Yes I bet 55-200 works well I wouldn’t mind trying it especially for video. I have an old sigma 18-250 that I will try. It’s actually an awesome little camera and deserves more than just a blogging role.
Will Goodlet -I agree, it should be used more for other things. For me, it didn’t feel all that user friendly at first. It wasn’t till I worked through it’s few idiosyncrasies that I really started to enjoy using it. Good luck with your haircut.🙂
I hoped to see you in the field showing us what it can do, can't do. I have never held a Canon M series camera, and there's nothing they do that matters to me and I cannot do with other cameras. I would have been considered them if Canon had a ranges of lenses such as Fujifilm has, fast constant-maximum aperture zooms. I have big hands, 25cm hand span. I photograph landscapes, but I am getting old and Canon's FF cameras are getting a bit heavy, so I have settled on micro four thirds cameras from Olympus and Panasonic. I have an 80D, it has similar limitations regarding lenses that the M series has. And it's not had as much use since I bought a used 5Ds. Those big lenses have feet on them for a reason, except during a lapse of concentration I would not hold them by the body attached to them, I would wrap my left hand around the base of the lens and be happy. I use BBF on my MFT cameras. I have never pursued wildlife photography, my eyesight isn't up to it, but since eye surgery last year, I am hopeful, and I have a Lumix 100-400 lens. There isn't a camera that does all the photography I want to do, do do.
I don't see how you can buy a used Canon 1dx iv at the same price as a new M50. I have a M50 and love it as a backup to my R6. I use the 70-200 f4 with adapter and 1.4 teleconverter. Does a great job in a small package for even bird photography. Nice review!
Thanks Tom, yep I like mine too! Here’s a link to some 1Div cameras - still very good for wildlife and bird photography www.ebay.com/b/Canon-EOS-1D-Mark-IV-Digital-Cameras/31388/bn_96422018
Thank you for posting this. I have the M5, which is larger, and has a full selection of controls available while I'm shooting. I programmed my back button focusing to hold my focus point rather than to do all of the focusing. The camera keeps focusing when my finger is not on the button. It's not a good for action, but it's a big improvement for regular photos. The lens setup is similar, so this video helps with learning about how I could use the camera with the larger lenses.
Glad you found it useful. Some people commented that the bigger ef lenses can strain the adapter and the electronic points can be damaged. Something to be careful of if you use bigger lenses
I absolutely love my M50 & you made some great points. It's so versatile & always in my camera bag. iI have a Small-Rig case that helps with the size. Honestly its been one of my favorite cameras. My main cameras are a pair of EOS-R's that replaced two 5D mk4's. I hoping Canon comes out with a refreshed M50 soon! Love your videos!!
Thanks for watching and for dropping in and saying Hi :) Glad to hear you enjoy the videos too! Yep, I really like using the M50 it's very very versatile and can go anywhere.
I've used the M5 (not M50) with a Tamron 100-400. Works ok, but I have a major problem with using the lens adaptor. With a reasonably large lens, it creates a tiny movement which can cause the camera to seize up and you need to turn off and on again. This has even happened with my 17-55mm! Touch & drag is great and you can restrict which part of the screen is responsive to touch (eg, top left quarter) which takes care of any accidental touches with my nose 😂 alas, I find the autofocus just isn't upto the job and, as you mention, the ergonomics don't work with a large lens. Great camera, but for everyday shots 👍
Hi John, thanks for watching and the info on the M5. I'd agree, and I think M50 suffers the same way. Luckily, I haven't had the adapter problem, but never use it with the longer lenses. It's a great little hiking camera and fantastic to have it around for vlogging though.
Which adapter are you using? I also have the M5. I love the size and controls. It's superior to the M50 in that regard. I have many M Mount lenses, but I'm thinking of getting an adapter so I can upgrade my lens collection to get some better shots with the better glass.
Get the Canon M6 Mark II with a speed booster which will give you one more stop of light, shallower depth of field and shaper images with lower ISO’s. When used on my sharp 300mm F2.8 with adapter for more reach or speed booster the results are great! 😉
Thanks much for your insights. I'm tempted by the M50's ability to review images as I shoot but I'm probably better served if I continue to use my 80D for bird photography. It's hard to have it all.
I have bigger hands than you do. And the size of the m50 never bothered me. I don't hold it like I do my r6 or like you are trying to hold it though. I hold it wedged between my middle finger and the base of my thumb. The tip of my thumb and my index are both free to press buttons/shutter, and I feel comfortable enough to walk around shooting one handed.
Excellent video - I am a retired wedding photographer and I recently sold my FF Canon gear (5DIIIs and lenses) and jumped on the EF-M bandwagon via the M50 and I love it. Sports photography is one of my passion (esp. water sports) and the longest lens that I have now is the EF-M 55-200 which is actually quite comparable in IQ terms with my now sold EF 70-200 f/4L IS. What brought me here is the fact that I am now looking at 100-400 lenses (Canon and Sigma in my shortlist) and your video has given me a lot of insight. The buffer issues are making me think whether I am better served by the M6II for this kind of work. I have no plans to return to FF via the EOS RP and the expensive RF, so I am "stuck" with the EF-M cameras for now. Any advice would be welcome...Subscribed
Hi Alexis, thanks for watching and the comment. Great to hear of your experiences moving to EF-M. I'm hearing rumours of a new sports orientated version coming out? Could be interesting. The M50 ii may also address that to some extent with the extended JPG bufffer. Do you shoot indoor watersports? If the lighting is consistent and you can get the results in camera, I reckon it could be a good idea to switch to JPG. Otherwise the EF lenses work really well on these cameras. Although a few people commented that they were having a problem with the weight stressing the adapter contacts. Something to watch out for!
This is a terrific review! I’ve been contemplating getting this camera to replace my DSLR but I do a lot of bird photography. I was thinking of buying this because of the focus peaking feature as I have gotten interested in Astro photography and have difficulty getting sharply focused stars with my DSLR. Perhaps I need to have both! Lol! Thank you so much for the detailed and very unbiased review.
I bet it does! Thanks for the tip. I get very jealous of Europe and US having access to amazon. We can’t get accessories here easily. When we do they are often double the price.
Very informative vid and great job! I have an M50 MK ii and I was originally going to get the Tamron 100-400 for it. However, after a couple of recommendations from pros, I think I'm going to get the Canon 400 f5.6 instead because the image quality and autofocus looks awesome on it. What do you reckon? Do you think the Canon Prime will be the better option? Cheers dude 👍
Hi, Thanks for watching. I think a lot depends on what you use it for. 100-400 is a lot more flexible for travel and the vibration compensation might be very handy for slow shutter hand-held shots and also for any video you do. The 400 f5.6 is not stabilised and although it's good lightweight, fast focusing and sharp lens, it's primarily best used as a birding or pure wildlife lens on a camera that can move the AF motor. Also, the minimum focus distance on the Tammy is 1.5m and on the Canon it's 3.5m (so it's basically a one trick pony). You also have to factor in the limits of the M50ii. It's not a fast focusing camera - it's a compromise choice for wildlife and although it can take good shots, it's far harder to use it for that than even something older like a 7D mark ii which will make the AF motor on the lens sing (400 f5.6). I mention this because lens choice defines a lot of out future photography while the camera body kind of defines where we are now. Buying lenses is very costly and it becomes harder and harder to leave that system the more we acquire. If you compare that to cameras, well, it's easy just to sell a camera body and get a different one. I'm totally stuck in the canon EF system because its too expensive to change lenses now. So I have to make the best of the cameras that canon produces (and for much of the later years of DSLR I was very unhappy with them). Now with the R5 etc... I'm happier, but still kind of stuck because of the EF lens mount. So put extra thought into your lens choice and think about it as something you may have for 5-10 years. Will it be the right mount? Offer the right set of opportunities? The right focal length? Suit what you shoot both in terms of subject and in terms of media? Is it durable, long lasting and covered by good backup and warranty. And finally - will it be easy to sell on later? I can't offer a definitive opinion - both options you suggest are good in their own way, but they are not the same lens. They have different strengths.
@@WillGoodlet thank you so much for taking your time for such a detailed answer. I've put a lot of thought into it and will continue to do so cause as you hinted, it is a pretty big decision. But your response was very helpful. Cheers Will 👍
It's adequate at most - you would need to work hard with that combination. If you are looking specifically for a good wildlife camera there are better choices (consider used options). The M50 is a nice general camera and a good video camera. The key component for wildlife will be the lens and not the camera.
@@WillGoodlet yeah I understand that. But unfortunately there’s no native zoom lenses that are about 400m and higher on the market. Might have to get a teleconverter
Hi Will. Just found your channel. I’m just starting out in video and photo so it’s all foreign to me still but I am learning a lot from your channel. And you drive a landy :) Thank you
Hi Jacob, sorry I haven't used those cameras so I will not be a good source of information but I would be inclined towards the DSLR Nikon D5600 for wildlife - IF these are the only choices. However, NONE of these are good wildlife cameras. For the price of the Sony you can do far better buying a used specialist wildlife camera like a 7D Mark ii, 1D Mark IV, 70D.
The custombatterygrips one? It's a possibility, but not easy or cheap to import to South Africa - the postal system is non-functional here. As far as I know Canon don't make a grip for the M50.
Thanks for a great video, a lot of food for thought! I came to watch it after seeing an offer of Canon M50 with an adapter and Tamron 18-400mm lens to replace my current Sony A6000 with twin lens kit (16-55 and 50-210). My photography profile is advanced amateur, mostly shooting travel pictures, including a lot of Australian wildlife (birds in flight and on trees, kangaroos, reptiles). But also portraits of my wife and landscapes on our hikes, so the 18-400 ticks all the boxes having wide range and being (borderline) compact. Most of my wildlife subjects would rather move sideways, but touch focus could be very useful for stationary animals, like a kangaroo head sticking out of the bushes. Sony is slow to change to point AF and then moving the focus point and then still sometimes struggles to get the right object in focus... On the other hand I have taken a few lucky shots of cockatoos flying by my balcony with quite decent shaprness owing to my Sony's fast AF-C. I'm thinking of checking out the M50 offer and selling my Sony or sticking to the Sony system, getting a much more compact Tamron 18-300mm lens and eventually swapping to body to a newer A6*** series with Animal eye AF. Any thoughts?
The camera looks a bit small indeed. I would love to see you try my olympus em1x some time. Wondering what a profesional wildlife photographer would think of it. I just love the smallef sizes but the ergonomics look mutch better then on your canon.
Hi Guido, yes it’s very small! I would like to try the Olympus 1x too. It looks like a fantastic system. I liked the 300 f4 a lot on the Olympus em1 Mark ii.
@@WillGoodlet it looks like there is just more body and grip compared to your Canon. The back button focus is on a much better spot and there is a little joystick to move the focus points around. I can't wait to try it in Africa one day for some wildlife photography. Yeah i would love to own the 300mm f4 but it is still to expensive for me. I now own a 40 to 150 f2.8 and a 100 to 400 panasonic. But I just read that olympus is releasing an 150-400mm F4.5 TC1.25x IS PRO lens later stis year. Maybe that is a better option then the 300 but probably even more expansive... are you still locked in at home? Is there any sight on when things are getting better for you? Compared to here there are far less corona deaths in south Africa then there have been here until now. Can't wait to see some new in the field material from you.
Hey Guido, I forgot that with micro 4/3 you can use lenses from other manufacturers. That is fantastic. I'm sure the panasonic is pretty good and that new Olympus lens will be killer with the TC!. We are still locked up. I think we have many unreported cases and deaths. I'm hearing about a lot of people that can't even get a test when their spouses have been hospitalised. Also of some people locking their spouses out (you can't isolate in a shack)... My Aunt just died of Covid and her entire family got it. It's been a sad time, no one was able to visit her or comfort her. Hospitals are full.
My Canon M6 Mark II I use for when I need more reach such as on my 600mm F4 but mostly for static shots and video as the track isn’t the best like the R5. It’s also my travel camera and a back up. I just wish it had R5 tracking and dual card slots. A little bigger would be nice. But I think late next year canon will release an R7 with a speed booster to go with it. IMHO
I use the Sigma 150-600 on my m50. Apart from shots per second it is better in every way compared to my G9 with 100-400 for less than half the price. Sometimes my palm will push into the menu button which can be annoying when I have a shot lined up.
There is a custom grip available in Europe (not sure where you are) I can’t get one here but it would make it much more useful for wildlife. Also, I’ve found that if you set up the shot carefully you can use the greater buffer depth for jpg reasonably effectively. Thing is tho, you can buy a used 1d Mark Iv maybe even a 7d2 for the same price and they are definitely better for wildlife stills (not for video and macro I’d choose the m50 for that)
@@WillGoodlet You could yes. Not me. On a mirrorless camera there is no errors with sigma lenses. Many people give up and return sigma lenses after messing about with the dock. I will wait for this sporty APSC R that's is rumoured to be one of Canons upcoming releases. That would solve my buffer issues. I have only shot raw only, using burst sparingly. How many shots per second do you think you would gain from only jpeg? I should try it myself. I've not really looked at the jpeg results.
Great info.. Thanks for this amazing video.. I been doing photography for short period of time my budget wasn’t much so I got me the Canon M50, I have gotten a few lenses and now I am so into wildlife photography, I got the canon 55-250mm lens, but I want to get the tamron 150-600mm.. Your advice please?
Ali Mellado the lens will work on the M50 but you should try to look out for a camera body that has a better focus system and buffer depth when budget allows. Don’t be afraid to think about second hand bodies. I think it is better to get the lens first - the body can come later - the lens is more important.
@@WillGoodlet ah okay... thank you so much for taking the time to reply... I’ll do that, When possible I’ll get the lens, and yes camera can be later on.. Thank again..
I bought my M50 specifically for vlogging, it wouldn't be my first choice for wildlife, but thanks to this video I can now use my 50 to make a passable attempt, thanks Will. I own a Sigma DG 100-400mm f/5-6.3 OS HSM C Lens for Canon EF Mount and I have been rather reluctant to use it with my Viltrox adaptor on my M50 due to the weight on the M50's lens mount, so I've been using it on my 250D/SL3 instead. The M50 also feels too small in the hands but I've got round that with a SmallRig cage. Some really great points in your video Will, that have got me thinking and subbed. Cheers.
I have many cameras and the eos M100 is one of the best. You should get a fuji X-T2 or 20. The sony a 6100 has even better image quality, and the Z5 is even better.
Thanks for watching Jan-Martin. I don't like to mix brands or else it gets too complicated and expensive with duplicate focal lengths and lenses. Especially for video production, it takes too much time to colour match all the footage! I like the m50 because it can take all my lenses which helps a lot!
@@WillGoodlet i have many brands. It drives me crazy, when I think to much, so I dont, I just feel my way around. What i like I like. Very simple rule.
WHEN BACK BUTTON IS NOT USEFUL. While pressing back button Auto Focus you can't select another focus point. Let's say you're shooting and decide to move the focus point on a bird that's just to right of center but you have set the focus at center af point. Now if you try to press the a.f. selection button its impossible. But if you have the top main dial set as a.f. half press all you need do is hit the a.f. selection button and move your point to the desired new position. WHEN BACK BUTTON IS USEFUL If you're focusing on a stationary subject and you have the eye in perfect focus you can stop pressing the back button and not worry that your Auto focus will grab something else while you're shooting a continues burst of images. Although you can also get the same results using top main button to half press and have one of the back buttons set as AF-OFF and simply press that to stop focus then shoot your continues burst of images. BBF is not useful in most situations. Makes no sense to use two fingers to do what I can do with one finger on the top of my camera. Some of my preferred uses for my back buttons. Are as follows... AF-On , AE * or depth of field buttons for af-off, af point select single to multi point, depth of field preview, register recall or one shot/ai servo one touch switch.
Thanks for the information! I'm a wildlife photographer that shoots mainly with my 100-400 generation one L series lens with a 7D camera and am looking for a way to reduce the weight yet still get the quality shots I'm used. By the way what adapter is best for this combination? Thanks in advance for your help!
Hi Gene, sorry for the late response - a lot has been happening here! I think you might struggle with the M50 as a replacement for the 7D. It's a newer camera and does create reasonable files but has poor buffer depth and not nearly as accomplished autofocus. If you can work around that, it is a very nice and compact alternative. Easy to pack away and easy to use with EF glass. The EF to EF-M Canon adapter is likely to be the best. That's the one I use and it has stood up to using heavier EF lenses very well.
Curious question... how do I get my display to look like the way it does on 12:23. The middle part where it shows you if you’re holding your camera right.
I have the Canon M50 Camera, I’ve been using the tele EFS 55-250, any other tele lens you would recommend for this little camera? I’ve been doing wild life photography?
Hi Ali, the M50 is a nicely featured camera but it doesn't stack up to many of the older canon cameras for wildlife. It's lacking in two principal areas: 1) Autofocus - it is frustrating, inaccurate and slow compared to older DSLRs using optical finders and phase detect autofocus. For example a used 7D mark ii is much better. (2) Buffer & Frames per second - this is also well below par for a wildlife camera. The consequence of these two problems are felt mainly when photographing birds especially moving birds. Birds are an important subject for many because larger wildlife is not accessible. For photographing larger wildlife, the M50 is often perfectly adequate (if not a pleasure) to use. Lens choices have to be made in this context. Buying a lens in the EF-M system is likely to be a bad choice because most feel that the EF-M system is going to be discontinued and what would you do with the lens then!? So your choices are now the EF-S or EF systems. I feel that the EF-S lens system is also a compromise because it means you will not be able to upgrade your camera in the future to a full frame and keep using the EF-S lens. I feel it is better to get the EF (full frame version which is able to be used on EF-M, EF-S and EF mounts). So if the choices are now EF lenses - you have to consider size and weight on the small M50 lens mount - the weight is important because it will damage the lens mount if the camera is handled roughly. With all that said, you have a wealth of new and second hand options in the EF range. Something like a Sigma 100-400 offers a great budget starting option. You could also go for the excellent Sigma 150-600 contemporary (I wish these lenses had been around when I was starting out!) If you want to look at second hand lenses - the Canon 100-400 mark ii and the 400mm f5.6 are good options (the 400 f5.6 lacks stabilisation but for fast moving birds it's not too much of an issue because your shutter speed must be high anyway and stabilisation is therefore less important). If you want the top of the range - a second hand EF 500mm f4 or even a EF 600mm f4 will work on this camera but be incredibly oversized for its small body and risk damaging the camera mount. My choice for value would be the Sigma 150-600 Contemporary. I've found it to be very good for wildlife, sharp and accurate if somewhat slow to focus (but your M50 is slow to focus anyway). It's also less heavy than other choices and may not damage the lens mount too much. An alternative value option would be to upgrade to a second Hand DSLR like a used 7D mark ii or 1Dx and attach a 150-600mm or better lens. This would definitely yield some great possibilities - provided you are not using this camera for video. For stills they are hard to beat even now.
The other cameras supposedly better than m50 are ones that are more expensive (talking from uk). Unless you are very lucky and find it cheap second hand, you may find a body but you are missing out on batteries and lenses and it mounts up fast. As a beginner the m50 looks amazing, i am not always expecting to get close ups of birds really far away.
I think there are good options for the same or less second hand. It depends on what you want to do. Even the 1D markiiN I bought for usd 100 A few years back makes more sense as a pure wildlife camera. When you can get a 1D mark iv for £100 less than a new m50, it’s even more compelling - you still need the lens whichever body you choose - good to have options in any case. I started with these older cams - very happy with them - bit.ly/3gjR7OO
@@WillGoodlet Is there any specific cameras you recommend over m50, i looked for d5 iv but it is outside my price range by about £300 and the second hand is still out of my price range by a bit. I saw a good deal but it was very quickly snapped up.
@@ketsueki2077 Hi Assume you are talking about the Canon 5D Mark iv (not the Nikon D5). The 5D IV is still current - so yeah, it's going to cost. If you are looking for a specific camera for wildlife stills - I am talking about much older cameras than that. Professional level bodies in the Canon range - the latest one being the Canon 1D Mark IV (which I linked to) This camera is brilliant for wildlife and bird photography even now. Price used is GBP 350 - 450 If you are looking at more expensive than that - you should look at the Canon 7D Mark ii second hand (this one will also do reasonably video and has dual pixel autofocus) it is FAR better than the M50 for wildlife. If you want a stills camera that is full frame and costs less than the 5D IV then grab a 5D Mark III. This is also excellent value but full frame cameras will require more spend on the lens to achieve an adequate focal length. One of the best combinations for value is a canon 1D Mark iv + 400mm f5.6 lens. Or the 7D Mark ii + 400mm f5.6 lens. Even older cameras than this will also be better than the M50 for pure wildlife photography (ignoring video). You could look at the 1DMark ii N -> 1D Mark III -> 1D Mark iv -> 7D Mark ii the older you go, obviously the greater the risk something will break or malfunction - but these bodies are built like tanks. My recommendation would be a used 7D mark ii with less than 50,000 actuations.
@@WillGoodlet Thank you for the recommendation! I have looked around and can see some good prices for second hand 7D mark ii. My concern is megapixels, as the older models tend to have lower Mp. I know i cannot have everything so i am willing to sacrifice some things.
@@ketsueki2077 I don’t think you need to worry about megapixels on the 7d2 it’s a very high resolution camera. I still use a 7d2 - I would NEVER pick up my m50 in preference to that camera for any kind of wildlife - the m50 is for vlogging.
Agreed but I have tons of wildlife bird shots that equals high end cameras with sharper images than 2 other brands on a sigma 150 600 c lens. One camera about 3000 us with 10000 us lens in 10 round burst was poor to my 7th shot in 10 burst mode. It’s all up to user and abilities plus equipment. I had a tripod others was hand held being said I have swallows pin sharp. It’s abilities that makes the camera not the body.
@@wildtechy3952 I haven’t had the opportunity to try it. Basically you need good autofocus preferably with servo mode, reasonable frames per second (5 plus) and a reasonable buffer depth in RAW 20-30 anything that can achieve these stats these days will be ok as a wildlife camera. Add durability, battery life, metering options, good second hand resale options and service network/warranty and you have a good start. The rest is mostly bells and whistles that make a camera more efficient at capturing fast moving subjects (and by no means is all wildlife fast moving!! Some stays still for you :) ). The more you go into birds and birds in flight the more you need fast autofocus, longer lenses and fast frames per second, resolution and deep buffers. If the 200d can do this you will find it ok.
Vloggers who want a mic input, great 11-22 lens, flip screen and great video AF in 1080p. People who want a capable small camera with small lenses, travellers, people who want a good number of capabilites for general photography, those who want to step up from a smartphone, good image quality in a small package at a reasonable price. It's not for serious wildlife or sports photography. You can use it for that but it is frustrating. I use mine for vlogging and b-roll.
Will Goodlet I am considering buying sony a7 iii, canon 6d mkii, or something not sure what....but its tough deciding. I am a novice but want the best bang for my buck.. want a camera for stills mostly, good in low light, and maybe some video..
It's very hard, I know! All those cameras are in a different class to the M50. Best advice I can give is to try before you buy and always remember that you are buying into a system. If you are going to be doing this a while, then this is just the first camera. Your lenses will probably be what determines most. I have Canon EF lenses - because they were easy to find second hand and they work on every canon body (including EOS film cameras), some nikon and some sony bodies too with adapters - so that system really offered a lot of future choices and flexibility. Look very carefully at the lens systems, prices, second hand re-sale prices and what kind of photography you think you want to do and what lenses you might need before choosing a camera body to match them.
when I use M50 with the adapter and a Sigma zoom 18-250, I get errors in the camera very often that the lens is badly attached - it's all because of the stress such big lenses induce on the connections in the mount
Sorry to hear that. I also tried a Sigma 18-250 on mine without problems but I will take extra care based on this. Thanks for the warning! Ironically, on the really big lenses, you hold the lens and not the body so there is less stress on the 400 f2.8
I also get the error message with the M50, Sigma 150-600 and a 3rd party adapter. For me I have to be careful when zooming in and out because that will cause it to give the error. I wonder if the official Canon adapter prevents that with a tighter fit?
Nick Mosher mine is a canon adapter and it has been fine. I have had a problem with the kenko TC on a 70d with a sigma lens where the camera totally shuts down. Have you tried a firmware update?
@@WillGoodlet I have the lens and the camera updated and I believe the issue lies more with the pins not fully connecting to the camera body. Most of the time when applying a twisting force the camera switches to manual as if the pins don't make contact
I use this camera all the time and find no problems at all with any of the buttons maybe it is because you have big hands...lol. Like you say you can use any number of Canon lens on the camera.
I am planning to buy canon 150-600mm sigma But i am confused to choose between 200d canon or M00 mark II What you suggest ? I am buying mostly for wildlife and Bird photography.. Please suggest which one I should get
Hello, I've got a Canon 4000d right now and it's an entry level DSLR. I love wildlife photography but I also want to make videos which mine is not good for. Would I be able to do wildlife/Macro photography with the Canon M50? Thanks.
Hi Oliver, thanks for watching and coming here to comment. Can I ask what lenses you have or plan to get - everything hinges on that choice really? I hesitate to recommend the M50 for wildlife. As I said in the video, I think it will eventually hold you back. Also, there are rumours that Canon is going to kill off the M series which means you may be left holdng a camera that no one really wants to buy second hand once the time comes to move on. For macro photography, I think the M50 will work very well. As 4K video becomes the norm, you may find that the M50 becomes a little outdated because it has a cropped 4K - crucially with poor autofocus in 4K (excellent AF in 1080) - but for general video it is fine. So it's mainly the wildlife end of things that probably isn't going to work. I don't know what your budget is, but the best option in DSLR is probably the 90D currently (from canon) for what you want to do? Alternatively, you could pick up two cameras. One for the video side of things and another for specialised wildlife? There are still some excellent second hand wildlife cameras around - 1D mark iv? This would eat the M50 for breakfast when it comes to wildlife. I'm not sure where you are but in the UK I see the M50 is around GBP 650 and a used 1D Mark iv GBP400. The 1D mark iv will be next to useless for video though.
IMO Canon would be stupid till kill off the M mount cameras. A powerful and good camera at an affordable price, still selling well I think, a joy to carry when traveling. Why discontinue it?
good evening sir, im srini. I have canon m50 15-45 kit lens. my doubt which lens best for multi purpose single lens use. please advice. i am confused. so many different lens m mount. cost all higher price. i like zoom, and portrait, some family group photos. i am learner. please advice thank you sir srinivasan.
Hi, I think the 15-45 you already have is a good place to start. That lens will let you take landscapes and portraits. Once you learn more about photography, I am sure will want to look at other lenses. But I would advise you to learn with what you have already. Henri Cartier Bresson - one of the greatest photographers of all time, only used one lens - the 50mm (you have that already in the 45mm :))
@@WillGoodlet hi, thanks for reply. you are noted 50 mm lens. what type of lense. 50 mm stm or some others. i have 50 mm stm 1.8 stm. thanks. srinivasan.
@@srinivasan7909 I meant the 15-45 you have already - 45mm and 50mm are very close. If you have the 50mm f1,8 that's great for photographing people. I suggest you use it and get comfortable with it because it is a great focal length.
My friend owns 2 of them but he use them on videos only and they're fantastic. I almost bought one the other day but i was reluctant and i regret. It was a used one atva better price.
Nooooooooooooooooooo dont go the Man Bun! lol This is Africa, the only animals we have that run straight towards us, are trying to eat us (said with such a straight face).......gold, pure gold..... And people try to say Australia can be a dangerous place..... Greta upload......Nikon are also offering similar mixed feelings with their foray into mirrorless range.....
Haha thanks! I'm not sure I can just let the hair down. I may get mistaken for Oliver Cromwell (or someone from the Discovery Channel). If the autofocus is good with my lenses I will probably move to mirrorless. I might get some of my wildlife clips in focus then! Have you tried Nikon mirrorless and F mount glass?
Muhaha...yes you have huge hands. It looks like a toy in your hands. In such cases I am glad I have not that huge hands. Allthough I have no small hands...still have construction worker hands. Which is why I am still concerned about the size.
Here's a more detailed blog post complete with my current settings for wildlife photography with the M50 - willgoodlet.com/blog/canon-eos-m50-wildlife-camera
Really enjoyed this video! Ive had a M50 mkii for around 7 months now! The reason I use it for wildlife is its small size! It is easy to set up in a tree near a birds nest and use wifi!
couldn't agree more on the experience part. Expert birdwatchers move around with a binocular only. The fact that taking the photo is crippling the experience of viewing it in the moment through clear glass - its not a tradeoff any wildlife enthusiast should take. Thanks for reminding us that!
It’s a big factor for me and others I am sure
So the conclusion is:
If you already have it then it will do the job but don't buy it just for the Wildlife photography.
Yes that about sums it up. :)
EF, EFs (and of course M) glass works perfectly well, and my 100-400 on the M50 works just as well as on my 5d or 50d. The real bonus is adapting old FD glass, or nice small and light manual primes like the 7 Artisans range.
With your nose moving the focus point you can actually go into the settings and adjust the drag area so that you can use the right half of the left half the top of the bottom, so if you’re right eye dominant and you’re using the camera you can set the drag area to the right so that your nose is on the leftand not touching the screen
Yes, thank you I have discovered this feature now :)
Cuando busco videos informativos sobre una cámara en un estilo de fotografía específico, siempre tengo la espectativa altas. Este video a superado todas. Excelente explicación y análisis. Me encantaría ver más videos así. De ahora en más te seguiré y veré tus contenidos. Espero sigas creando más y muestres un poco de tus trabajos. Saludos desde Paraguay!!
6:30 m50 gives you a option where you could use the bottom right corner of the screen to touch and focus, thereby not letting nose disturb the touches
Gokula Krishnan thanks, yes I know it can be customized. Thanks for pointing it out.
i dont do wild life but i also went from a 5d mkiii for my automotive work and went tot he m50 as a dive to mirrorless and completely switching after seeing that i didnt miss too much, after 6 months of trying both back and forward, i use a speedbooster and a normal adapter if i want more reach. only think i miss is the lowlight(but i use lights for lowlight shooting anyways) and miss my joystick and wheel haha
edit i use a smallrig cage to get a better grip since the m50 would also make my pinky go in the bottom and the grip just isnt that good
Without finish watching your video, i did already like the video, it is so descriptive and also feels real, and like you talk from your hard to share this information with people who have ever wonder to use the M50 as a wildlife photography camera, thanks
What the Canon M50 is to wildlife photography, is what the Class 11 VW Beetle is to the Baja 1000.
Haha maybe not quite that bad. I was expecting it to be worse than it was.
So perfectly explained. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
I agree on the body size...get a smallrig grip which has nice wooden handle - that’s what I did...
Yeah I think that would help.
Heyyyy South Africa shout out! I've been using this little camera for almost a year and my experience so far has been interesting to say the least! I've been adapting vintage lenses to mine and the results are awesome! Can't afford you big Canon glass so I got me a vintage telephoto and been having tons of fun! Thanks for the great video buddy!
Hello Will. I do have the M50 also. I have used it for wildlife photography just to see if I could get decent photos, and I could. But, one should not be in any sort of a hurry to get the photo. That being said, I never leave home without it. I always carry it in my pack with the 55-200mm M lens attached. One never knows when it may be handy to have that focal length. That setup continues to amaze me with the quality of images it can produce. For the cost, I find it to be a real keeper. I got a haircut last month.🤫
Hi Terry, glad to hear you managed to get a haircut and survive. I think I’m going to ask Fiona to do it soon - there may be a bowl involved. Yes I bet 55-200 works well I wouldn’t mind trying it especially for video. I have an old sigma 18-250 that I will try. It’s actually an awesome little camera and deserves more than just a blogging role.
Will Goodlet -I agree, it should be used more for other things. For me, it didn’t feel all that user friendly at first. It wasn’t till I worked through it’s few idiosyncrasies that I really started to enjoy using it. Good luck with your haircut.🙂
I hoped to see you in the field showing us what it can do, can't do.
I have never held a Canon M series camera, and there's nothing they do that matters to me and I cannot do with other cameras. I would have been considered them if Canon had a ranges of lenses such as Fujifilm has, fast constant-maximum aperture zooms.
I have big hands, 25cm hand span.
I photograph landscapes, but I am getting old and Canon's FF cameras are getting a bit heavy, so I have settled on micro four thirds cameras from Olympus and Panasonic. I have an 80D, it has similar limitations regarding lenses that the M series has. And it's not had as much use since I bought a used 5Ds.
Those big lenses have feet on them for a reason, except during a lapse of concentration I would not hold them by the body attached to them, I would wrap my left hand around the base of the lens and be happy.
I use BBF on my MFT cameras.
I have never pursued wildlife photography, my eyesight isn't up to it, but since eye surgery last year, I am hopeful, and I have a Lumix 100-400 lens.
There isn't a camera that does all the photography I want to do, do do.
I don't see how you can buy a used Canon 1dx iv at the same price as a new M50. I have a M50 and love it as a backup to my R6. I use the 70-200 f4 with adapter and 1.4 teleconverter. Does a great job in a small package for even bird photography. Nice review!
Thanks Tom, yep I like mine too! Here’s a link to some 1Div cameras - still very good for wildlife and bird photography www.ebay.com/b/Canon-EOS-1D-Mark-IV-Digital-Cameras/31388/bn_96422018
Thank you for posting this. I have the M5, which is larger, and has a full selection of controls available while I'm shooting.
I programmed my back button focusing to hold my focus point rather than to do all of the focusing. The camera keeps focusing when my finger is not on the button. It's not a good for action, but it's a big improvement for regular photos.
The lens setup is similar, so this video helps with learning about how I could use the camera with the larger lenses.
Glad you found it useful. Some people commented that the bigger ef lenses can strain the adapter and the electronic points can be damaged. Something to be careful of if you use bigger lenses
I absolutely love my M50 & you made some great points. It's so versatile & always in my camera bag. iI have a Small-Rig case that helps with the size. Honestly its been one of my favorite cameras. My main cameras are a pair of EOS-R's that replaced two 5D mk4's. I hoping Canon comes out with a refreshed M50 soon! Love your videos!!
Thanks for watching and for dropping in and saying Hi :) Glad to hear you enjoy the videos too! Yep, I really like using the M50 it's very very versatile and can go anywhere.
Thank you for the review and guides
Thank you for watching :)
There is a button on top you can assign back button focus
I've used the M5 (not M50) with a Tamron 100-400. Works ok, but I have a major problem with using the lens adaptor. With a reasonably large lens, it creates a tiny movement which can cause the camera to seize up and you need to turn off and on again. This has even happened with my 17-55mm!
Touch & drag is great and you can restrict which part of the screen is responsive to touch (eg, top left quarter) which takes care of any accidental touches with my nose 😂 alas, I find the autofocus just isn't upto the job and, as you mention, the ergonomics don't work with a large lens. Great camera, but for everyday shots 👍
Hi John, thanks for watching and the info on the M5. I'd agree, and I think M50 suffers the same way. Luckily, I haven't had the adapter problem, but never use it with the longer lenses. It's a great little hiking camera and fantastic to have it around for vlogging though.
Which adapter are you using? I also have the M5. I love the size and controls. It's superior to the M50 in that regard. I have many M Mount lenses, but I'm thinking of getting an adapter so I can upgrade my lens collection to get some better shots with the better glass.
I’m just using the standard canon ef to Efm adapter. Nothing fancy
Get the Canon M6 Mark II with a speed booster which will give you one more stop of light, shallower depth of field and shaper images with lower ISO’s. When used on my sharp 300mm F2.8 with adapter for more reach or speed booster the results are great! 😉
Which speed booster do you recommend? I have read that some can need adjustments to achieve correct focus?
Thanks much for your insights. I'm tempted by the M50's ability to review images as I shoot but I'm probably better served if I continue to use my 80D for bird photography. It's hard to have it all.
I think the 80D is a far better option than an M50
I have bigger hands than you do. And the size of the m50 never bothered me. I don't hold it like I do my r6 or like you are trying to hold it though. I hold it wedged between my middle finger and the base of my thumb. The tip of my thumb and my index are both free to press buttons/shutter, and I feel comfortable enough to walk around shooting one handed.
Sir which lens is good for m 50 mark2 , for wildlife photography , landscape photography and also nature, deep night sky
Thanks for this!
Excellent video - I am a retired wedding photographer and I recently sold my FF Canon gear (5DIIIs and lenses) and jumped on the EF-M bandwagon via the M50 and I love it. Sports photography is one of my passion (esp. water sports) and the longest lens that I have now is the EF-M 55-200 which is actually quite comparable in IQ terms with my now sold EF 70-200 f/4L IS. What brought me here is the fact that I am now looking at 100-400 lenses (Canon and Sigma in my shortlist) and your video has given me a lot of insight. The buffer issues are making me think whether I am better served by the M6II for this kind of work. I have no plans to return to FF via the EOS RP and the expensive RF, so I am "stuck" with the EF-M cameras for now. Any advice would be welcome...Subscribed
Hi Alexis, thanks for watching and the comment. Great to hear of your experiences moving to EF-M. I'm hearing rumours of a new sports orientated version coming out? Could be interesting. The M50 ii may also address that to some extent with the extended JPG bufffer.
Do you shoot indoor watersports? If the lighting is consistent and you can get the results in camera, I reckon it could be a good idea to switch to JPG.
Otherwise the EF lenses work really well on these cameras. Although a few people commented that they were having a problem with the weight stressing the adapter contacts. Something to watch out for!
This is a terrific review! I’ve been contemplating getting this camera to replace my DSLR but I do a lot of bird photography. I was thinking of buying this because of the focus peaking feature as I have gotten interested in Astro photography and have difficulty getting sharply focused stars with my DSLR. Perhaps I need to have both! Lol! Thank you so much for the detailed and very unbiased review.
its too small and petite agreed...i think the battery grip is a decent answer especially when the battery life is so short...
Excellent review, thanks.
I bought a cheap right angled viewfinder on amazon ( Neewer make) for my Canon . It helps a lot with low level shots on bodies without flip screens
I bet it does! Thanks for the tip. I get very jealous of Europe and US having access to amazon. We can’t get accessories here easily. When we do they are often double the price.
Very informative vid and great job! I have an M50 MK ii and I was originally going to get the Tamron 100-400 for it. However, after a couple of recommendations from pros, I think I'm going to get the Canon 400 f5.6 instead because the image quality and autofocus looks awesome on it. What do you reckon? Do you think the Canon Prime will be the better option? Cheers dude 👍
Hi, Thanks for watching. I think a lot depends on what you use it for. 100-400 is a lot more flexible for travel and the vibration compensation might be very handy for slow shutter hand-held shots and also for any video you do.
The 400 f5.6 is not stabilised and although it's good lightweight, fast focusing and sharp lens, it's primarily best used as a birding or pure wildlife lens on a camera that can move the AF motor.
Also, the minimum focus distance on the Tammy is 1.5m and on the Canon it's 3.5m (so it's basically a one trick pony).
You also have to factor in the limits of the M50ii. It's not a fast focusing camera - it's a compromise choice for wildlife and although it can take good shots, it's far harder to use it for that than even something older like a 7D mark ii which will make the AF motor on the lens sing (400 f5.6).
I mention this because lens choice defines a lot of out future photography while the camera body kind of defines where we are now. Buying lenses is very costly and it becomes harder and harder to leave that system the more we acquire. If you compare that to cameras, well, it's easy just to sell a camera body and get a different one.
I'm totally stuck in the canon EF system because its too expensive to change lenses now. So I have to make the best of the cameras that canon produces (and for much of the later years of DSLR I was very unhappy with them). Now with the R5 etc... I'm happier, but still kind of stuck because of the EF lens mount.
So put extra thought into your lens choice and think about it as something you may have for 5-10 years. Will it be the right mount? Offer the right set of opportunities? The right focal length? Suit what you shoot both in terms of subject and in terms of media? Is it durable, long lasting and covered by good backup and warranty. And finally - will it be easy to sell on later?
I can't offer a definitive opinion - both options you suggest are good in their own way, but they are not the same lens. They have different strengths.
@@WillGoodlet thank you so much for taking your time for such a detailed answer. I've put a lot of thought into it and will continue to do so cause as you hinted, it is a pretty big decision. But your response was very helpful. Cheers Will 👍
I live in SA. Would you say this camera is good for a game drive in the bush? Using the 55-200m lens?
It's adequate at most - you would need to work hard with that combination. If you are looking specifically for a good wildlife camera there are better choices (consider used options). The M50 is a nice general camera and a good video camera. The key component for wildlife will be the lens and not the camera.
@@WillGoodlet yeah I understand that. But unfortunately there’s no native zoom lenses that are about 400m and higher on the market. Might have to get a teleconverter
Hi Will. Just found your channel. I’m just starting out in video and photo so it’s all foreign to me still but I am learning a lot from your channel. And you drive a landy :) Thank you
I have had this camera for a year and love it was wondering if it would be good for this stuff
Great review i also have large hands
Ill get the 7d
Thanks Gary, I think it's a better camera for wildlife and birds no question.
Nikon d5600, canon m50 or the sony a6100 for wildlife photography beginner????. Thank you
Hi Jacob, sorry I haven't used those cameras so I will not be a good source of information but I would be inclined towards the DSLR Nikon D5600 for wildlife - IF these are the only choices. However, NONE of these are good wildlife cameras. For the price of the Sony you can do far better buying a used specialist wildlife camera like a 7D Mark ii, 1D Mark IV, 70D.
Thank you
Why not add the battery handle which adds bulb to the bottom and sides of the camera and also doubles how long the battery last.
The custombatterygrips one? It's a possibility, but not easy or cheap to import to South Africa - the postal system is non-functional here. As far as I know Canon don't make a grip for the M50.
Do this vid again. Worth it.
Can i use my sigma canon fit 150 600 contemporary with the M50
I haven’t tried it but I don’t see why it would be any different. You will need an eF to ef-m adapter
Would you recommend the M50 over a canon 70D, strictly for wildlife? I know the 70D is from 2013, just wondering your thoughts.
Hi Ronald, I used to own the 70d and it is definitely better for wildlife than the M50.
@@WillGoodlet Awesome! Thanks so much for the speedy reply. Thanks for all the cool vids and tips 👍
Thanks for a great video, a lot of food for thought! I came to watch it after seeing an offer of Canon M50 with an adapter and Tamron 18-400mm lens to replace my current Sony A6000 with twin lens kit (16-55 and 50-210). My photography profile is advanced amateur, mostly shooting travel pictures, including a lot of Australian wildlife (birds in flight and on trees, kangaroos, reptiles). But also portraits of my wife and landscapes on our hikes, so the 18-400 ticks all the boxes having wide range and being (borderline) compact. Most of my wildlife subjects would rather move sideways, but touch focus could be very useful for stationary animals, like a kangaroo head sticking out of the bushes. Sony is slow to change to point AF and then moving the focus point and then still sometimes struggles to get the right object in focus... On the other hand I have taken a few lucky shots of cockatoos flying by my balcony with quite decent shaprness owing to my Sony's fast AF-C. I'm thinking of checking out the M50 offer and selling my Sony or sticking to the Sony system, getting a much more compact Tamron 18-300mm lens and eventually swapping to body to a newer A6*** series with Animal eye AF. Any thoughts?
The camera looks a bit small indeed. I would love to see you try my olympus em1x some time. Wondering what a profesional wildlife photographer would think of it. I just love the smallef sizes but the ergonomics look mutch better then on your canon.
Hi Guido, yes it’s very small! I would like to try the Olympus 1x too. It looks like a fantastic system. I liked the 300 f4 a lot on the Olympus em1 Mark ii.
@@WillGoodlet it looks like there is just more body and grip compared to your Canon. The back button focus is on a much better spot and there is a little joystick to move the focus points around. I can't wait to try it in Africa one day for some wildlife photography. Yeah i would love to own the 300mm f4 but it is still to expensive for me. I now own a 40 to 150 f2.8 and a 100 to 400 panasonic. But I just read that olympus is releasing an 150-400mm F4.5 TC1.25x IS PRO lens later stis year. Maybe that is a better option then the 300 but probably even more expansive... are you still locked in at home? Is there any sight on when things are getting better for you? Compared to here there are far less corona deaths in south Africa then there have been here until now. Can't wait to see some new in the field material from you.
Hey Guido, I forgot that with micro 4/3 you can use lenses from other manufacturers. That is fantastic. I'm sure the panasonic is pretty good and that new Olympus lens will be killer with the TC!. We are still locked up. I think we have many unreported cases and deaths. I'm hearing about a lot of people that can't even get a test when their spouses have been hospitalised. Also of some people locking their spouses out (you can't isolate in a shack)... My Aunt just died of Covid and her entire family got it. It's been a sad time, no one was able to visit her or comfort her. Hospitals are full.
Will Sigma 150-600 mm f/5-6.3 DG OS HSM Contemporary Lens for canon will work fine on canon m 50 mark 2
I can test it for you and let you know I have both items with me right now
My Canon M6 Mark II I use for when I need more reach such as on my 600mm F4 but mostly for static shots and video as the track isn’t the best like the R5. It’s also my travel camera and a back up. I just wish it had R5 tracking and dual card slots. A little bigger would be nice. But I think late next year canon will release an R7 with a speed booster to go with it. IMHO
I'm sure there are going to be a whole lot of exciting announcements - interesting times!
I love my m50 mark ii but I really struggle to take action shots of my dogs
Yeah you would, especially if coming straight at you. Lens focus speed can also be a factor
Yes exactly, my dogs running straight to me. I use the 32mm 1.4 lense
I use the Sigma 150-600 on my m50. Apart from shots per second it is better in every way compared to my G9 with 100-400 for less than half the price. Sometimes my palm will push into the menu button which can be annoying when I have a shot lined up.
There is a custom grip available in Europe (not sure where you are) I can’t get one here but it would make it much more useful for wildlife. Also, I’ve found that if you set up the shot carefully you can use the greater buffer depth for jpg reasonably effectively. Thing is tho, you can buy a used 1d Mark Iv maybe even a 7d2 for the same price and they are definitely better for wildlife stills (not for video and macro I’d choose the m50 for that)
@@WillGoodlet You could yes. Not me. On a mirrorless camera there is no errors with sigma lenses. Many people give up and return sigma lenses after messing about with the dock.
I will wait for this sporty APSC R that's is rumoured to be one of Canons upcoming releases. That would solve my buffer issues.
I have only shot raw only, using burst sparingly.
How many shots per second do you think you would gain from only jpeg? I should try it myself. I've not really looked at the jpeg results.
@@METAL4K-UK buffer depth is 33 I think and 10 FPS instead of 7
Great info..
Thanks for this amazing video..
I been doing photography for short period of time my budget wasn’t much so I got me the Canon M50, I have gotten a few lenses and now I am so into wildlife photography, I got the canon 55-250mm lens, but I want to get the tamron 150-600mm..
Your advice please?
Ali Mellado the lens will work on the M50 but you should try to look out for a camera body that has a better focus system and buffer depth when budget allows. Don’t be afraid to think about second hand bodies. I think it is better to get the lens first - the body can come later - the lens is more important.
@@WillGoodlet ah okay... thank you so much for taking the time to reply...
I’ll do that, When possible I’ll get the lens, and yes camera can be later on..
Thank again..
does this camera have a digital zoom in video mode?
I bought my M50 specifically for vlogging, it wouldn't be my first choice for wildlife, but thanks to this video I can now use my 50 to make a passable attempt, thanks Will. I own a Sigma DG 100-400mm f/5-6.3 OS HSM C Lens for Canon EF Mount and I have been rather reluctant to use it with my Viltrox adaptor on my M50 due to the weight on the M50's lens mount, so I've been using it on my 250D/SL3 instead. The M50 also feels too small in the hands but I've got round that with a SmallRig cage. Some really great points in your video Will, that have got me thinking and subbed. Cheers.
I have many cameras and the eos M100 is one of the best. You should get a fuji X-T2 or 20. The sony a 6100 has even better image quality, and the Z5 is even better.
Thanks for watching Jan-Martin. I don't like to mix brands or else it gets too complicated and expensive with duplicate focal lengths and lenses. Especially for video production, it takes too much time to colour match all the footage!
I like the m50 because it can take all my lenses which helps a lot!
@@WillGoodlet i have many brands. It drives me crazy, when I think to much, so I dont, I just feel my way around. What i like I like. Very simple rule.
WHEN BACK BUTTON IS NOT USEFUL.
While pressing back button Auto Focus you can't select another focus point. Let's say you're shooting and decide to move the focus point on a bird that's just to right of center but you have set the focus at center af point. Now if you try to press the a.f. selection button its impossible.
But if you have the top main dial set as a.f. half press all you need do is hit the a.f. selection button and move your point to the desired new position.
WHEN BACK BUTTON IS USEFUL
If you're focusing on a stationary subject and you have the eye in perfect focus you can stop pressing the back button and not worry that your Auto focus will grab something else while you're shooting a continues burst of images.
Although you can also get the same results using top main button to half press and have one of the back buttons set as AF-OFF and simply press that to stop focus then shoot your continues burst of images.
BBF is not useful in most situations.
Makes no sense to use two fingers to do what I can do with one finger on the top of my camera.
Some of my preferred uses for my back buttons.
Are as follows... AF-On , AE * or depth of field buttons for af-off, af point select single to multi point, depth of field preview, register recall or one shot/ai servo one touch switch.
All good points - did you mean to post this on the back button and AF stop video (pros and cons etc..)?
Yes sorry.
a little out of topic, I've only found ONE person that has the same Swatch chronograph as me and that's you hahaha
Haha a gift from my wife. Nice to know we are watch buddies :)
Thanks for the information! I'm a wildlife photographer that shoots mainly with my 100-400 generation one L series lens with a 7D camera and am looking for a way to reduce the weight yet still get the quality shots I'm used. By the way what adapter is best for this combination? Thanks in advance for your help!
Hi Gene, sorry for the late response - a lot has been happening here!
I think you might struggle with the M50 as a replacement for the 7D. It's a newer camera and does create reasonable files but has poor buffer depth and not nearly as accomplished autofocus. If you can work around that, it is a very nice and compact alternative. Easy to pack away and easy to use with EF glass.
The EF to EF-M Canon adapter is likely to be the best. That's the one I use and it has stood up to using heavier EF lenses very well.
Curious question... how do I get my display to look like the way it does on 12:23. The middle part where it shows you if you’re holding your camera right.
Hi sorry that overlay is from my 7d Mark ii - I just used it to illustrate the point. Sorry to mislead you!
I am using M50 since one year now for bird photography with 100-400 Tamron lens, in raw i get 7.2 frames per second.
Yes I believe that is the correct FPS with RAW. 1 second of shooting!
What adapter do you use to get that on the m50?
@@lentil356 canon EF to M mount adaptor
@@samirmitch hey i was thinking of getting tamron 100 400 for my m50ii fpr wildlife and bird photography. Are you happy with the performance?
@@anujchavan2265 yes I am satisfied, but if budget is not an issue go for canon's 100-400 or Tamron or Sigma 150-600
I have the Canon M50 Camera, I’ve been using the tele EFS 55-250, any other tele lens you would recommend for this little camera? I’ve been doing wild life photography?
Hi Ali, the M50 is a nicely featured camera but it doesn't stack up to many of the older canon cameras for wildlife. It's lacking in two principal areas: 1) Autofocus - it is frustrating, inaccurate and slow compared to older DSLRs using optical finders and phase detect autofocus. For example a used 7D mark ii is much better. (2) Buffer & Frames per second - this is also well below par for a wildlife camera.
The consequence of these two problems are felt mainly when photographing birds especially moving birds. Birds are an important subject for many because larger wildlife is not accessible. For photographing larger wildlife, the M50 is often perfectly adequate (if not a pleasure) to use.
Lens choices have to be made in this context. Buying a lens in the EF-M system is likely to be a bad choice because most feel that the EF-M system is going to be discontinued and what would you do with the lens then!?
So your choices are now the EF-S or EF systems. I feel that the EF-S lens system is also a compromise because it means you will not be able to upgrade your camera in the future to a full frame and keep using the EF-S lens.
I feel it is better to get the EF (full frame version which is able to be used on EF-M, EF-S and EF mounts).
So if the choices are now EF lenses - you have to consider size and weight on the small M50 lens mount - the weight is important because it will damage the lens mount if the camera is handled roughly.
With all that said, you have a wealth of new and second hand options in the EF range.
Something like a Sigma 100-400 offers a great budget starting option. You could also go for the excellent Sigma 150-600 contemporary (I wish these lenses had been around when I was starting out!)
If you want to look at second hand lenses - the Canon 100-400 mark ii and the 400mm f5.6 are good options (the 400 f5.6 lacks stabilisation but for fast moving birds it's not too much of an issue because your shutter speed must be high anyway and stabilisation is therefore less important).
If you want the top of the range - a second hand EF 500mm f4 or even a EF 600mm f4 will work on this camera but be incredibly oversized for its small body and risk damaging the camera mount.
My choice for value would be the Sigma 150-600 Contemporary. I've found it to be very good for wildlife, sharp and accurate if somewhat slow to focus (but your M50 is slow to focus anyway). It's also less heavy than other choices and may not damage the lens mount too much.
An alternative value option would be to upgrade to a second Hand DSLR like a used 7D mark ii or 1Dx and attach a 150-600mm or better lens. This would definitely yield some great possibilities - provided you are not using this camera for video. For stills they are hard to beat even now.
The other cameras supposedly better than m50 are ones that are more expensive (talking from uk). Unless you are very lucky and find it cheap second hand, you may find a body but you are missing out on batteries and lenses and it mounts up fast. As a beginner the m50 looks amazing, i am not always expecting to get close ups of birds really far away.
I think there are good options for the same or less second hand. It depends on what you want to do. Even the 1D markiiN I bought for usd 100
A few years back makes more sense as a pure wildlife camera. When you can get a 1D mark iv for £100 less than a new m50, it’s even more compelling - you still need the lens whichever body you choose - good to have options in any case. I started with these older cams - very happy with them - bit.ly/3gjR7OO
@@WillGoodlet Is there any specific cameras you recommend over m50, i looked for d5 iv but it is outside my price range by about £300 and the second hand is still out of my price range by a bit. I saw a good deal but it was very quickly snapped up.
@@ketsueki2077 Hi Assume you are talking about the Canon 5D Mark iv (not the Nikon D5).
The 5D IV is still current - so yeah, it's going to cost.
If you are looking for a specific camera for wildlife stills - I am talking about much older cameras than that. Professional level bodies in the Canon range - the latest one being the Canon 1D Mark IV (which I linked to) This camera is brilliant for wildlife and bird photography even now. Price used is GBP 350 - 450
If you are looking at more expensive than that - you should look at the Canon 7D Mark ii second hand (this one will also do reasonably video and has dual pixel autofocus) it is FAR better than the M50 for wildlife.
If you want a stills camera that is full frame and costs less than the 5D IV then grab a 5D Mark III. This is also excellent value but full frame cameras will require more spend on the lens to achieve an adequate focal length.
One of the best combinations for value is a canon 1D Mark iv + 400mm f5.6 lens. Or the 7D Mark ii + 400mm f5.6 lens.
Even older cameras than this will also be better than the M50 for pure wildlife photography (ignoring video).
You could look at the 1DMark ii N -> 1D Mark III -> 1D Mark iv -> 7D Mark ii
the older you go, obviously the greater the risk something will break or malfunction - but these bodies are built like tanks.
My recommendation would be a used 7D mark ii with less than 50,000 actuations.
@@WillGoodlet Thank you for the recommendation! I have looked around and can see some good prices for second hand 7D mark ii. My concern is megapixels, as the older models tend to have lower Mp. I know i cannot have everything so i am willing to sacrifice some things.
@@ketsueki2077 I don’t think you need to worry about megapixels on the 7d2 it’s a very high resolution camera.
I still use a 7d2 - I would NEVER pick up my m50 in preference to that camera for any kind of wildlife - the m50 is for vlogging.
Agreed but I have tons of wildlife bird shots that equals high end cameras with sharper images than 2 other brands on a sigma 150 600 c lens. One camera about 3000 us with 10000 us lens in 10 round burst was poor to my 7th shot in 10 burst mode. It’s all up to user and abilities plus equipment. I had a tripod others was hand held being said I have swallows pin sharp. It’s abilities that makes the camera not the body.
Can I attach to it the Sigma 100-400 lens?
You will need a EF to EF-M adapter but it should work.
Sir can you make Canon 200d ii video for wildlife photography please🙏 sir
Sorry Sai, I don't have a 200D so it's not possible to make that video for you.
@@WillGoodletis canon 200d mark 2 good for wildlife photography?
@@wildtechy3952 I haven’t had the opportunity to try it.
Basically you need good autofocus preferably with servo mode, reasonable frames per second (5 plus) and a reasonable buffer depth in RAW 20-30 anything that can achieve these stats these days will be ok as a wildlife camera. Add durability, battery life, metering options, good second hand resale options and service network/warranty and you have a good start. The rest is mostly bells and whistles that make a camera more efficient at capturing fast moving subjects (and by no means is all wildlife fast moving!! Some stays still for you :) ).
The more you go into birds and birds in flight the more you need fast autofocus, longer lenses and fast frames per second, resolution and deep buffers.
If the 200d can do this you will find it ok.
Who is this camera for, exactly, in your opinion?
Vloggers who want a mic input, great 11-22 lens, flip screen and great video AF in 1080p. People who want a capable small camera with small lenses, travellers, people who want a good number of capabilites for general photography, those who want to step up from a smartphone, good image quality in a small package at a reasonable price. It's not for serious wildlife or sports photography. You can use it for that but it is frustrating. I use mine for vlogging and b-roll.
Will Goodlet I am considering buying sony a7 iii, canon 6d mkii, or something not sure what....but its tough deciding. I am a novice but want the best bang for my buck.. want a camera for stills mostly, good in low light, and maybe some video..
It's very hard, I know! All those cameras are in a different class to the M50. Best advice I can give is to try before you buy and always remember that you are buying into a system. If you are going to be doing this a while, then this is just the first camera. Your lenses will probably be what determines most. I have Canon EF lenses - because they were easy to find second hand and they work on every canon body (including EOS film cameras), some nikon and some sony bodies too with adapters - so that system really offered a lot of future choices and flexibility. Look very carefully at the lens systems, prices, second hand re-sale prices and what kind of photography you think you want to do and what lenses you might need before choosing a camera body to match them.
when I use M50 with the adapter and a Sigma zoom 18-250, I get errors in the camera very often that the lens is badly attached - it's all because of the stress such big lenses induce on the connections in the mount
Sorry to hear that. I also tried a Sigma 18-250 on mine without problems but I will take extra care based on this. Thanks for the warning! Ironically, on the really big lenses, you hold the lens and not the body so there is less stress on the 400 f2.8
I also get the error message with the M50, Sigma 150-600 and a 3rd party adapter. For me I have to be careful when zooming in and out because that will cause it to give the error. I wonder if the official Canon adapter prevents that with a tighter fit?
Nick Mosher mine is a canon adapter and it has been fine. I have had a problem with the kenko TC on a 70d with a sigma lens where the camera totally shuts down. Have you tried a firmware update?
@@WillGoodlet I have the lens and the camera updated and I believe the issue lies more with the pins not fully connecting to the camera body. Most of the time when applying a twisting force the camera switches to manual as if the pins don't make contact
Yep sounds like it. Sorry to hear that!
I use this camera all the time and find no problems at all with any of the buttons maybe it is because you have big hands...lol. Like you say you can use any number of Canon lens on the camera.
do we require M mount adaptor to attach sigma 150-600mm ef lens to M50 mark II ??
Yes I believe so
@@WillGoodlet thank you. How you have attached
I am planning to buy canon 150-600mm sigma
But i am confused to choose between 200d canon or M00 mark II
What you suggest ?
I am buying mostly for wildlife and Bird photography..
Please suggest which one I should get
Hello, I've got a Canon 4000d right now and it's an entry level DSLR. I love wildlife photography but I also want to make videos which mine is not good for. Would I be able to do wildlife/Macro photography with the Canon M50? Thanks.
Hi Oliver, thanks for watching and coming here to comment.
Can I ask what lenses you have or plan to get - everything hinges on that choice really?
I hesitate to recommend the M50 for wildlife. As I said in the video, I think it will eventually hold you back.
Also, there are rumours that Canon is going to kill off the M series which means you may be left holdng a camera that no one really wants to buy second hand once the time comes to move on.
For macro photography, I think the M50 will work very well.
As 4K video becomes the norm, you may find that the M50 becomes a little outdated because it has a cropped 4K - crucially with poor autofocus in 4K (excellent AF in 1080) - but for general video it is fine.
So it's mainly the wildlife end of things that probably isn't going to work.
I don't know what your budget is, but the best option in DSLR is probably the 90D currently (from canon) for what you want to do?
Alternatively, you could pick up two cameras. One for the video side of things and another for specialised wildlife? There are still some excellent second hand wildlife cameras around - 1D mark iv? This would eat the M50 for breakfast when it comes to wildlife.
I'm not sure where you are but in the UK I see the M50 is around GBP 650 and a used 1D Mark iv GBP400.
The 1D mark iv will be next to useless for video though.
@@WillGoodlet Thanks for the tips! I have a canon 50mm prime lens and a 75-300mm lens.
IMO Canon would be stupid till kill off the M mount cameras. A powerful and good camera at an affordable price, still selling well I think, a joy to carry when traveling. Why discontinue it?
good evening sir,
im srini. I have canon m50 15-45 kit lens. my doubt which lens best for multi purpose single lens use. please advice. i am confused. so many different lens m mount. cost all higher price. i like zoom, and portrait, some family group photos. i am learner. please advice
thank you sir
srinivasan.
Hi, I think the 15-45 you already have is a good place to start. That lens will let you take landscapes and portraits. Once you learn more about photography, I am sure will want to look at other lenses. But I would advise you to learn with what you have already. Henri Cartier Bresson - one of the greatest photographers of all time, only used one lens - the 50mm (you have that already in the 45mm :))
@@WillGoodlet
hi,
thanks for reply.
you are noted 50 mm lens. what type of lense. 50 mm stm or some others. i have 50 mm stm 1.8 stm.
thanks.
srinivasan.
@@srinivasan7909 I meant the 15-45 you have already - 45mm and 50mm are very close. If you have the 50mm f1,8 that's great for photographing people. I suggest you use it and get comfortable with it because it is a great focal length.
@@WillGoodlet
thank you sir.
you are boost...my knowledge.
srinivasan.
My friend owns 2 of them but he use them on videos only and they're fantastic. I almost bought one the other day but i was reluctant and i regret. It was a used one atva better price.
They are cool and very versatile cameras for sure. Thanks for watching! Are you thinking of getting one if the price is right?
@@WillGoodlet i will definitely get one. But things are not well at the moment. But soon.
Yep I hear you. I'm not buying anything either! Who knows what is ahead.
@@WillGoodlet exactly
Nooooooooooooooooooo dont go the Man Bun! lol This is Africa, the only animals we have that run straight towards us, are trying to eat us (said with such a straight face).......gold, pure gold..... And people try to say Australia can be a dangerous place..... Greta upload......Nikon are also offering similar mixed feelings with their foray into mirrorless range.....
Haha thanks! I'm not sure I can just let the hair down. I may get mistaken for Oliver Cromwell (or someone from the Discovery Channel). If the autofocus is good with my lenses I will probably move to mirrorless. I might get some of my wildlife clips in focus then! Have you tried Nikon mirrorless and F mount glass?
Bro u should use an nd filter
For wildlife photography? I do use one for video.
Tripods are used for weight issues. Its a small can. Dont reimvent it.
ahahaaha i think you're very funny .. the video is very informative tho. thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Muhaha...yes you have huge hands. It looks like a toy in your hands. In such cases I am glad I have not that huge hands. Allthough I have no small hands...still have construction worker hands. Which is why I am still concerned about the size.
Lol. Its a great beast if u are willing to dive into it!. Use it. Learn from it. This guy is amazing. Take his advise. #Cafepulido.
That poor m50 body attached to that lens reminds me of piper perri 🤣
The size is fine, you’re just a huge guy!😂
You've convinced me not to get it lol