I love how he's made this out of a couple of pickle jars... I was thinking "what if they break?!"... then I realised he could pull over at almost any store and buy a new jar of pickles... genius
@Jupiter-rs4zl it really depends on where you live in the states. If you live more towards the Gulf of Mexico intends to be a little bit cheaper because that's where they were fine a lot of the fuel... Prices are anywhere from $2.90 per gallon to$6 a gallon in certain states. Thanks very much for the comment.
@Jupiter-rs4zl California is 5.99 a gallon averagely... traffic depends where you travel takes 17-45 minutes normally , LA is 45 minutes to 2 hours on a terribly accident filled day. So here on the coast we travel by time not by distance. If you own a V8 truck that runs 18+ gallons to the mile and if that 1 mile takes you 17 minutes due to traffic your looking at way more then 18 gallons for that one little trip since all your gas is spent on traffic and crawling under 5mph, wheras a little 4 cylinder honda is way more gas efficient at 30+ miles to the gallon. And electric is a fail, we get warnings all the time about our power grid being strained .
I'm always looking to save gas at all times. Might make a low cc motorized bicycle. But I did get me a max mpg spec 93 Ranger as well. Pretty amazed with it, wonder if the mileage can be increased.
Adding HHO to a fuel injection system would give you more power and less emissions but I think you’re right that you’d have to program the injectors spray to actually save on fuel
@timchapman8359 in some cases most definitely. But not in all circumstances. Manufacturers have been warned of this modification but it is so effective it has a very strange way of getting significant benefits. We have a new video coming out which will show some improvements we've made over the years be sure to subscribe and I thank you very much for your comment.
This generates HHO which is highly flammable, if you build this you need a back flow valve. A backfire could cause an big bang, a really big bang, a really really big bang.
12 years ago... Wow that is awesome home science & no need for an ejector button any more. I just love that we are creating explosive gasses, and the wires are looped on the connecting ends lol. That priceless & i love it. When i was a kid about 50 years ago, my brother & i used to make a hydrogen type gas with aluminum shavings we collected under the telephone lines and caustic soda. We blew giant weather balloons up and watch them disappear above the clouds. Occasionally the heat generated was too extreme and the coke bottles we made it in and the bottoms would explode out of them lol. We would look at each other with wide eyes and start the experiment again haha.
I've put a system in an older 63 dodge with a slant 6 in it. It works FANTASTIC, gives you a LOT more power and will save you 2 to 3 times in fuel consumption. The engine compartment cooled off right away and I dialed the carburetor and timing way back. I heartily recommend this for any car currently on the market,and the older ones too. Now all I need to do is figure out a way to put a small bottle on my bike!!!
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holy fuck cant believe it just checking back after planning to set one up for years and now i got a 61 d200 so glad to see someone witha similar whip making it work. < 3
It actually does not work. You introduce more air into the system and the fuel injectors will introduce more fuel therefore burning more fuel than normal............ Common Sense is a thing of the past my friends.
Holy cannoli! UA-cam should have suggested this video the very day that was up. He got me right away when he said "clean steaming the engine". At the very exact moment i think I had a "satori". The whole universe, for a very brief but illuminating moment, made sense to me: I subscribed!
I did a very similar thing on my 150cc scooter. It gave me a measured increase of 50% in fuel mileage. We made a larger one for my father in law's dodge slant 6. Increased the power of that old worn out motor almost 3 fold. Where it would barely pull the van uphill, it pulled strong!
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@@vinm8297 It's been in production for over a year and will be released as soon as we finish the last segment. We have installed the system on a 454 stroker but we had to get to 454 stroker in line, before we install it and that took a very long time. Divorced choke, non- electronic system, EMP proof, stuff like that and timing problems were quite difficult getting it lined out. Thanks for your patience and keep checking back.
I have been designing something like this for a long time, mine was much much smaller and could not even maintain a flame. But I'm glad to see that someone was able to do this successfully.
@UCv5yiHyJu7VvNYezbluvWQw you can't make enough power to run a car engine. Sure you can make power but micro amounts of energy... Like how they make earth batteries.
@@coloradodirtbike5930 Granted it isn't very efficient and this guy needed to mix gasoline fumes with the hydrogen for the engine to even run, but I believe that it is possible. If you have different stages of this setup than it would be possible. However, it would be much more efficient to use an electric car.
and that's why it doesn't work. It can't generate nearly enough hydrogen to even turn the engine on revolution. Not powerful enough, because it's as the other commenter explained. It's oxy hydrogen and there is not NEARLY enough being generated by this little setup to make a damned bit of difference. Even as a supplement to gas. It take energy to make energy and this takes more than it makes.
Bill Does Stuff YOUR COMMENTS, WE ASSUME ARE BASED UPON YOUR OWN EXPERIENCE WITH YOUR OWN VEHICLE PRESENTLY ? ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER NEIGHBORS, COMMENTING ?
I did this for years on an 76 Dodge D100 with a 318. I never could get it to run on pure hydrogen without gasoline. Gasoline requires the engine timing to be set Before Top Dead Center but pure Hydrogen explodes rather than burns so it would have to be timed After Top Dead Center. The temperature of the combustion chamber is critical too because Hydrogen will detonate as soon as the intake valve opens regardless of the spark timing if the combustion chamber is too hot. I would take a two liter plastic bottle and put the hose coming off the fuel cell in it for a minute or two then light it with a Bic lighter. It would shoot into the next subdivision. These fuel cells actually produce a lot of Hydrogen and you can make it useful.
Hydrogen isn't all that flammable, even less than propane but when you have the other byproduct (oxygen) its very explosive and helps burn the gas more efficiently.
Hydrogen has a self combustion at think at 500 degrees Celsius vs gasoline at 240s degree Celsius so I don't know about that explosion idea with the tubing.
@@sjg3890 i can't tell you exact numbers, but you do save on fuel and it doesn't require that much power to make it work. you could easily produce the gas for free using solar power from a few good solar panels.
You explained so simply and easy.. And went to talk right into the point... Thankyou very much for sharing and doing your best to help out to find real solutions for the gas problem!
He left out a few critical statements here. Introducing more air into the vacuum line will cause fuel injectors to introduce more fuel, therefore burning way more fuel than you did before. Also without a good way to vent the gas you would most likely build up enough HHO gas under the hood to kill everyone in the truck................................If it's on the internet and someone made a extra long video about it = IT MUST BE TRUE? XD
this man does not live long this way. you should know if you separate water into hydrogen and oxygen, he forgets what else is released!!! for example, glow and pale,
Bravo! Amazing. Thank you. Can you please make another video showing how to connect the hydrogen cell to the combustion system of your car. I would appreciate that. This is what we need more in the world. Bravo. It was very brave of you to test this model in your car despite the potential risk of a fire hazard. I am glad and impressed by your effort - good to know that your Hydrogen cell fuel system has been performing well for 30,000 miles now.
He explained it in this video. The HHO gas line is connected to the vacuum line running to his master cylinder. That only works if you have an older Carburetor. Newer vehicles with Fuel injectors would have to do something different.
@@natanaelmartinez7620 it'd definitely be fun... just as long as you remember it could explode at any minute... he doesn't separate the hydrogen from the oxygen so the gas mix is incredibly explosive at all times... and theres live wires dangling in there with like 23 amps passing through (more than enough to spark)... he's literally powering his car by syphoning the explosive mix from a home made bomb... if it backfires the whole thing could go boom and launch glass shrapnel everywhere haha (consider installing it in a vented steel box)
@@Jumjah it did increase the fuel mileage by 4 to 5 mgh and highly increased the acceleration during passing and decreased the stinky exhaust smell. Just takes a while to get the mixture right. But I recommend giving it a try if you havent. I have a TBI set up on mine.
I looked up how to make hydrogen and it was going on about the power needed to and I was like using batteries that is cool but an alternator could put 12v and quite a bit of amps and then I found this guy who confirmed what i was thinking this Is awesome man sweet
Great work, but I would recommend moving the connection cable further away from the jar and also isolate it properly, otherwise in case of leakage you get a nice spark triggered hho explosion from the gas forming up under the hood.
The danger lies with the hydrogen and oxygen being in the same jar in the first place. Two jars connected by a water hose at the bottom, the anode in one jar and cathode in the other. Gases are collected seperately and mixed in the carburettor to keep chances of unwanted explosions or fire restricted to a smaller volume and location.
This set up works best on older cars since todays cars computers have O2 sensors which regulate the amount of fuel/air mixture in the cylinders. there is a work around that someone came up with. If you have a gas generator this could work as long as you had enough power to generate the amount of HHO to run it.
EFIE (Electronic Fuel Injection Enhancer) The EFIE is intercepting signals from the oxygen sensor to the computer and fools the computer by giving it false exhaust readings from the Oxygen sensor.This is necessary because the computer is set up for a regular burn of fuel and compensates for the more efficient and cleaner burn by dumping more gasoline into the engine (until it gets the reading it expects) which ruins your fuel savings. Gasoline burns better (cleaner less waste) with HHO gas because the increase burn temperature . You can buy a EFIE on the internet or if you have the skills you can build one.
An efficient electrolizer must be used EFIE device or similar must be used Ignition timing (ATDC) must be changed Even compression ratio adjustments (more) That way you will get the most out of this, otherwise expect the ussual 10% only improvement.
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A friend of mine used a setup that used 3 equal parts hydrogen peroxide (industrial solution), rubbing alcohol (90% i think), and water he said it was like 1 drip every 3 seconds and it took him 3-4 engines to get right (kept melting them) but his little monza was getting almost 80mpg. If you wanna play with this set up all I can say is monitor your temp closely. He had 40+ vehicles he could pick for parts. But enjoy
@@randall1959 It being verified or not doesn't matter. Just think about the amount of peroxide and alcohol that setup would consume. At that point its just part of the fuel. Getting "80mpg" doesn't matter if you are consuming a gallon of whatever chemicals along with that gallon of gas. Especially when those chemicals are a lot more expensive than gas is. Even if the story is true, its just a neat thing someone did with an engine that isn't useful for anything.
@@lobsterbarkOne drop every three seconds or 20 drops per minute. 20 drops per minute are equal to 1 ml or 60 ml per hour which is roughly 0.25 of one cup. So he definitely wouldn’t be burning gallon for gallon of this mix and gasoline. Hydrogen peroxide alcohol and water have all been used in engines with injection. Alcohol increases the octane while water helps cool the engine. Adding hydrogen peroxide would probably result in a more efficient burn as it breaks down into oxygen and water. So this mix may increase horsepower and mpg some but I doubt it would lead to an increase like he is claiming unless the car was already getting a ridiculous 75mpg lol. I also highly doubt his buddy burnt his engines out. There have been a lot of inexperienced people doing injection with water for the first time and hydro locking their engines my guess is that’s what happened to his.
I've been working with hydrogen generators for about 7 years and there are some issues I can see here. The video makes no mention of how to "trick" the o2 sensor into thinking everything is normal with the increase in oxygen from the hydrogen production. If you don't install an o2 manipulator or somehow fake out the o2 sensor, your generator will be useless. Your engine will adjust your gas consumption accordingly once it detects the increased oxygen. Second, having wires go through the sharp holes on the metal lid will eventually cause a short and your hydrogen generator will go BOOM. Third, the increased h2o, which is a by-product of hydrogen generation, will quickly corrode your exhaust system. I mean quickly corrode. The money you will spend on exhaust repairs will outweigh the savings on gas. I installed mine on my Cadillac, which by the way, happens to have a stainless steel exhaust system. My car went from 28mpg to just over 40mpg, but ONLY after I installed an o2 manipulator I purchased online.
Most people that do this, from what I've seen, tend to put the hydrogen input past the O2 sensor. As far as I've seen in newer vehicles most O2 sensors are halfway up the intake, so there's plenty of room to add in a hose and reseal.
I think your talking about the maf sensor the 02 sensor screws on the manifold there is a 02 manipulater sensor you can buy that looks the same that you screw in there and trick it to make the car run rich or lean and this makes since cause if you don't manipulate the 02 sensor it will tell the motor to push more gas if you manipulate it then it should compensate for the hydrogen.
286 kJ/mol is required to electrolyze the water. 241 kJ/mol is released when HHO is burned. This would only make sense if you were running the electrolyzer on its own battery bank that you charged at home. But then you'd have the added weight of more batteries forcing more work on the engine anyway.
The engine is getting power mainly from gas. He’s just adding hydrogen and oxygen to the air intake to get more fuel. So the alternator is producing some fuel essentially
@@nicks2437 Yes that is true, but when the car's battery is fully charged the alternator is still spinning with the potential to generate energy. So you are getting parasitic energy loss from turning the alternator anyway. Say that turns out to be 40 Watts of energy to spin the alternator and not generate any energy. Then if you now add this HHO system, you may draw 200 watts to run it, but gain 180 watts from burning it. You no longer have parasitic alternator usage, so you're only burning 20 watts to spin the alternator instead of 40. These are made up numbers, and although I have a B.S. in physics I'm not sure my idea is accurate, but I'd like to find out more..
@@bryanoverbey While that may be true of alternators from decades past that used permanent magnets, modern alternators are designed with electromagnets so that the output can be varied to meet demand. So parasitic loss isn't really a thing anymore. And even if the battery is full the alternator is still powering all your vehicles electrical components. Realistically, if this system was viable for fuel savings then vehicle manufacturers would have incorporated it a long time ago and charged consumers through the nose for it. >"Yeah, it costs an extra $3000 up front but you get that back within 10 years on the fuel savings. And don't forget to only run Ford branded electrolyte to maintain your warranty!"
@@nicks2437 More weight of batteries is harder on the engine? He doesn't need to run a 1,500 cell module battery bud. Lmao!!! The extra weight at MOST needed would be a 12-24 volt series system. Like in a semi truck/tractor-trailer. That would be about 20-30 extra Lbs. Equal to his spare tire and jack. LoL!! Edit: I should also add that I spent 20+ years engineering internal combustion components. I grew up as a heavy duty mechanic. You can get a high output alternator that would deal with the 29 amp draw. 29 amps is not a lot of a draw. It's equal to the A/C compressor at full draw. Do you know the stress of a fully engaged compressor on a motor running? 0.02-3% power loss. And I need to address your alternator tech talk. *NOW ADAYS* alternators are elctro-magnetic? The have been elctro-magnetic for over 80 years. Ever since passenger vehicles switched to 12v from 6v. PS - "If this was a viable and efficient method then it would be manufactured"??? 😑 Were you alive for the Saturn EV1 fiasco? When GM was forced to repossess all of them from people who bought them and drove them? The fuel companies were outraged. How about biodiesel. One of the greatest fuel systems in the world. It is illegal to convert and no manufacturer makes them. They would lose a ton of money. Canola oil internal combustion engines are another issue. A lot of engineers are being monitored just for showing people their designs of canola oil run planes, cars and commercial equipment. The only reason the fuel corporations are all onboard with electric and hybrid is because they started buying up lithium and cobalt mines and operations around the world. So now they make a ton of money even if they DO lose on petroleum fuel sales.
You get about 60-80% of the energy back when burnt it take to spilt water into hydrogen and oxygen when burning. Then an internal combustion engine is about 20% efficient. So burning hydrogen in an internal combustion engine to make electricity for hydrolysis is doomed to fail.
cbmbdb If I had such a setup under my hood I’d show it to everyone! Then I’d tell them that I hardly ever have to buy gas! That way I’d look smart and they’d be jealous.
Law of conservation of energy states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed - only converted from one form of energy to another. This means that a system always has the same amount of energy, unless it's added from the outside. In other words the energy that powers the cell comes from the battery which pulls off the alternator which pulls off the motor. Which also means no added gas mileage and means the same gas mileage as not even having the cell hooked up.
Actually this system in no way interferes with the law of the conservation of energy. The engine itself is only burning about 80% of the fuel the rest is consumed by the catalytic converter. What we are doing is burning all of the fuel in the cylinder instead of the emission system. All gains come from the gasoline.
@@metalpresstv Then it would burn more gas because the load on the alternator which powers the the battery that the cells uses. The only way this setup would actually work is by creating the energy from another source not using the battery or alternator.
@@suoppsdn9751 20% more gasoline is a lot of energy. I understand you need to back the powers that be and stand with all the forces of science. I would like to point out that if you think these interesting little crafts that have been shown to you by your government that are flying around are powered by lithium batteries you're sadly mistaken. There's more to science than what they teach you in school and college. We have a new video coming out soon so be sure and subscribe thanks for all the comments my friend.
@@metalpresstv Allow me: In the video you state that the HHO generator consumes 29 amps. Assuming your truck runs at 12 volts DC, that is 29 (A) x 12 (V) = 348 (W). Your truck is probably a few horsepower and 1 horsepower is ~750 watts. There alternator is spun by the pulley. The pull is spun by the belt. The belt is spun by the engine's pully. The engine's pully is spun by the crankshaft. The crankshaft is spun by pistons pushing on it. The pistons are pushed by hot expanding gases. The hot expanding gases are the result of a chemical reaction between air(21% O2) + gasoline + HHO. The air comes from the air intake and oxidizes the gasoline. The HHO comes from the HHO gas generator. The HHO gas generator pulls 29 amps. Assuming your truck runs at 12 volts DC, that is 29 (A) x 12 (V) = 348 (W). Your truck is probably a few horsepower and 1 horsepower is ~750 watts. There alternator is spun by the pulley. The pull is spun by the belt. The belt is spun by the engine's pully. The engine's pully is spun by the crankshaft. The crankshaft is spun by pistons pushing on it. The pistons are pushed by hot expanding gases. The hot expanding gases are the result of a chemical reaction between air(21% O2) + gasoline + HHO. The air comes from the air intake and oxidizes the gasoline. The HHO comes from the HHO gas generator. The HHO gas generator pulls 29 amps... The only NEW energy input into the system is the gasoline and air burning. All other steps CONSUME energy. The HHO generator will only produce a small fraction of the power out into it. The rest escapes from the water as heat. The HHO generator is costing an extra 1/2 horsepower and providing very little back. Thermodynamics is a bitch.
@@thetruepetre2771 I'm not sure if you caught in the hundreds of comments where I've explained where the energy comes from. This engine wastes up to 20% of the gasoline. We are not in any way powering the engine with this gas. What we are doing is trying to burn as much of the 20% of the wasted gasoline which is wasted and burns in the catalytic converter. I understand your disbelief. There are hundreds of video showing and proving that HHO does not work. And they are right. Without a vacuum you cannot inject HHO into an engine and see any results at all. It was probably 17 years ago now when we started doing this and we discovered that fact very early on. Unfortunately we had already shared how to do this with many people and some people were disillusioned and thought it worked by squirting it into the carburetor. We proved it did not work and we moved on. When we put this system into the vacuum we had immediate changes in the engine. The smell of the exhaust changed and the catalytic converter remained cool and water began pouring out of the tailpipe. This system was tested by running the engine out of gas multiple times with the cell on and off and we proved it did boost the mileage considerably. We make no claims of over unity. We tell you exactly where the energy comes from and that is the gasoline and not the hho. A more efficient burning of the gasoline is all we are doing. Car makers do not make efficient engines and I think there's a reason. Just imagine if you made a vehicle that burned all of the fuel and it required no catalytic converter. Do you honestly think they can't do that? There's a reason that engines burn dirty. I appreciate your insightful comments and I hope you appreciate mine. You can rest assured I know all of the science behind it because I've been doing it so long. We have a new video on this topic and if you can tell from the age of the video it's been a long time. There's a reason we're not releasing it yet because it's not the right time. The time is coming and when we do I really hope you'll watch it. Thanks very much for the comment.
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You can make hydrogen throughout hight sound frequency. The water molecules start moving very fast because we hit it and forced to collide each other, with that way we reduce electricity consumption and increase efficiency
I have seen and heard a lot of that over the years. I do know that pulsing can be more efficient as it allows time for the bubbles to get out of the way of the plates. I have yet to see anyone produce the Ferocious bubbling that can be achieved running the Cell at 100 amps. If they can do that with pulsing frequencies at say 5 or 10 amps I would be totally impressed. Thanks for the comment.
@@TheHeartCharmer you need to use the 11th harmonic (2 frequencies, 1 at11x the other0, than with a sine wave generator(2) find the resonant frequency of a water molecule. This will produce hydrogen at a milliamp electrical load,. Separate the anode and cathodes as each will produce the gasses separately.(safety). A membrane installed in jar can produce electricity from the reassociation of the unused gas to water.
For everyone saying why not use modern sensors for safety, those sensors only communicate and work under very particular variables. To implement a Purge Solenoid would require fuel mapping and a host of impedance issues for sure. Would be very difficult to solve. For example. Put a MAF from a toyota into a chevy and it will never run right. I believe this video shows the fundamental basics needed, but when open to speculation on safety it will take some time to solve. Very interesting concept with the "Steam Clean" statement. I'm sure it works wonders for carbon build up. Thank you for the video, friend.
We're using solid copper wire, not stranded. Copper skins itself over and protects itself. As far as the plates go it's extremely high grade stainless non magnetic. It will last a very very long time. We have a new video coming out soon so be sure and subscribe. Thanks for the comment.
@@metalpresstv he said a "flashback" arrester. If any HHO gas ignites further down the line and comes back toward the HHO generator it'll blow up everything in the chain. A flashback arrester creates a smaller controlled explosion instead of exploding your HHO generator jar. What I'm assuming you made is more of a pressure overflow jar, to keep your HHO generator from overpressurizing and cracking, but really all you've added is just a container of excess HHO gas waiting to explode if it sparks.
"Under Certain Circumstances" ~ Like rolling downhill. . . . .My brother in law saw this video and made this set up, we couldn't measure any difference in fuel economy what so ever!
It must take energy to break the water into hydrogen and oxygen. This energy is coming from the alternator. I think the alternator doing its thing as a generator with a load on it, supplying electricity to make the hydrogen, is in turn putting more load on the engine because you don't get something for nothing. This increases the gas mileage but some of the energy to move the car is coming from the burning hydrogen and the system ends up breaking even or possibly worse than using the gasoline alone.
You need too get a kit { I got it on Ebay } to hook to the O2 sensor to tell the computer it is dumping way too much fuel into the system I was getting 55 mpg in a 87 Dodge grand caravan with a set up of a HHO generator The gas burns clean without the regulator you will burn MORE GAS Im babysitting my grandson so I can not look in my shop what that O2 regulator is called ON NEWER cars they changed the O2 sensors to where you can not trick them with a battery current to make it cut back the fuel flow to run these set ups
I find that confusing. As an electrician you should know that the number 10 gauge solid copper wire won't suffer from wicking when put into the water. Also, that wire is fully capable of handling 40 amp load. You see double circuit breakers on either side of the load. The only thing that would be questionable is the light switch. But as an electrician, I'm sure you're aware that those circuits are designed to not catch on fire. They undergo rigorous testing that normal toggle switches do not. I certainly do not condone anyone else replicating this however has an electrician you should be intrigued, not horrified. But, I completely understand. I respect your judgment. Do not replicate what you see here. Thanks very much for the comment. We have a new video coming out soon that shows some definite safety improvements that I think you would approve of. Don't forget to subscribe.
I can tell you from real world experience, that this works. I actually used 6, 1 quart jars, daisy chained all the electric and hoses. Connected main vacuum to breather cover. Mine was probably more crude of a design. I used normal metal coils. 2 in each jar, having a pvc pipe for seperation. I did this for 3 months. 5 years ago. On a 1984 Chevy Truck. 1/2 ton single cab. Went from avg of 14 mpg to 17 mpg. No other changes made. Not even an oil change. So take that, naysayers.
@@jasonrist6582 Just idling your engine is over a 600 rpms. Driving a 2.5 liter 4cly motor is about 150 cubic inches. That's 37.5 cubic inches per a cylinder. A cylinder fires ever 2 full rotations. So in a minute of idling at 600 rpms your engine will use 11,250 cubic inches of air a minute at just idle. That's a 187.5 cubic inches a second of air. You're not producing even 2 cubic inches a second. But don't forget that it's h2O 2 parts hydrogen 1 part oxygen. So 1/3 of the gas isn't even hydrogen it's oxygen. So not even 1% of the air being taken into the cylinder is hydrogen. The only thing being accomplished here is the alternator is working harder for the high amp draw dragging the motor down more reducing fuel mileage. This is why water isn't used as fuel in a motor vehicle. Now don't forget we don't drive at 600 RPMs most people will be around 1800 rpms at cruising speed. That's 3x the amount of air with still the same hydrogen production. So now ur way below the threshold of .03% hydrogen in the cylinder. Using a spark arrestor on the output hose to keep from blowing the jar up you would be hard pressed to even candle a flame let alone put anything measurable in every cylinder 900x a minute cruising down the highway at the speed limit. Why be a liar. This is why we don't use water as fuel... Takes way more energy to make it then it produces. This is why in Iceland we use compressed hydrogen from a fueling station. You can't make the volume on the fly and if u could the energy I took to make it wouldn't be returned so you wouldn't be going far. You should delete ur fake story just makes u look bad to any semi intelligent person
I come back to this video from time to time as I work on my own kit. I just now realized this years later that when he gives you the warning about this being dangerous, doing it like this is possibly a 100% chance of that happening 😂😂 I'm actually concerned if the OP is still with us all these years later. 😂 He built that like a professional home repair contractor.
Use a potentiometer 100 Watts 200 Ohms or something close. The electricity for elektrolyses must be dc so you use the battery to start. When your engine is running use a transformer from your alternator to 3.5 Volts. ( 10 Amps * 3.5 Volts is 35 Watts ) and put an AC-DC converter on the secundaire side. On the DC side you put the potentiometer. The hydrogen contains 3 times more energy than liquid petrol gas. Use original lpg tubes to your engine.
From reading the comments it sounds like most of you are jealous or just don't want to educate yourself in any way to the guy that made the video thanks
@@FrankGutowski-ls8jt Ladies and Gentlemen... we have a clown in the building and he brought comments. Thanks Clown dude. Most people wouldn't see the value in spending their precious time leaving comments of no value to anyone, but not you, you're pseudo-smart and I like it : )
Patrick Walsh It produces a minuscule amount of hydrogen and oxygen relative to the quantity of fuel and air consumed. You never hear how much because it’s never dawned on this and other hillbilly engineers to do so.
I love the disclaimer about how there is a chance of death due to hho explosion. It seems like there’s a greater danger to those who make this work and talk about it online of being killed by the nefarious forces who hate the true independence this offers.
The problem is some people bite off much more than they can chew. It might look like a simple pickle jar with a hose hooked to a vacuum line but it's actually quite in depth. It takes quite a bit of skill and knowledge to put it together. We have a new video coming out soon that takes it a step further with some other features. Be sure and subscribe so you don't miss it. Making anything like this comes with inherent dangers that have nothing to do with the cell itself. Any new or Fringe technology is always under the scrutiny of the forces that be. Thanks for the comment.
Not sure why you would think that. We are just burning all of the fuel in the cylinder instead of the catalytic converter. The boost comes from normally wasted gasoline. Thanks for the comment.
Browns gas... a patent for a gas that could potentiatly run a combustion engine.. 80 year old patent. go fig scienctist's knew about this long ago. his version might be "hillbilly" but the one on my car is from a profession distruber of... drycells (electolysis units for hydrogen output)
Back in the day, I didn't believe it, but some classmates in college bought an HHO device that supplemented the fuel in the car, and it did work. This is not perpetual energy. It wouldn't run without real fuel. Think they only saw a 20% jump in fuel efficiency ...still not bad though.
@@jerrogance Yes, why does it seem like every guru here doesn't realize it's an addition to the gas and not changing the fuel to hydrogen. It's so fucking obvious even a 10 year old would get it.
The whole point in the second container is to prevent a backfire, to work it needs to be full of water. U basically just made a bomb ready to go off great job.
@@oneplaneteer1708 your logic would be solid except for the fact that Jesus has changed the world in countless ways and also lives rent free in your head. I hope God opens the gospel to you and your family as well, AMEN
So, if i've got this straight the suggested method for reducing fuel costs it: 1: burn fuel in the car as normal to turn the alternator. 2: draw more current from the alternator than usual. 3: use said current to power a very basic and inefficient electrolysis reaction to produce hydrogen. 4: route that hydrogen back into the engine so that it mixes with the existing fuel. the weird thing is, I would have been certain that my old high school science teacher would have said that to extract more energy from a system you would need to burn more fuel. he also said that in energy terms there's no such thing as a free lunch. So even if both the reaction to produce your hydrogen and the reaction to re-oxidize that hydrogen were 100% efficient you would end up with net 0 joules of energy coming out of the other side. So every single bit of energy loss in the system means you're burning MORE fuel to keep your truck going than if you hadn't added this system at all. In short this "hydrogen fuel cell" (it isn't a hydrogen fuel cell) COSTS HIM MONEY EVERY TIME HE USES IT because it is reducing the miles per gallon on his vehicle. (There's a reason why no one has ever built a power station where they repeatedly convert water to HHO and then back to water in a cycle to get free energy. That's because it wouldn't work)
Car makers are about to if not already releasing HHO cars. It's supposed to be the latest. I do believe the setup will work, and I'm planning on making the same setup. My only concern is the engines internal parts getting rusted. Like the piston rings, valves, etc. Mainly because the engine wasn't designed for water. I'm planning on having some sort of lubrication to the setup to avoid that. Now if the engine was manufactured to keep from getting rusted. I don't think there would be a problem, but may just be the solution to global warming.
@@bobt7531 Cars fully powered by HHO work very well, that isn't the problem I'm highlighting. The issue is that energy is that electrolysis wastes quite a lot of energy by producing heat, this fact combined with the inefficiencies inherent in a alternator means that you would up burning more fuel with this system. Not less. In physics you don't ever get more energy out of a system than you put in. If energy is released by a chemical change in one direction, it will cost you at least that much energy to change it back to the original state. but there is waste at every stage. burning fuel to produce movement as waste in terms of heat and sound; turning that movement into electricity produces some waste heat and light; using that electricity to generate HHO produces waste heat; and finally burning HHO to produce mechanical movement wastes energy in terms of sound and heat. All you have done in this complicated process is waste the energy that you produced by burning fuel. If you were adding an HHO tank to your vehicle that you filled up at home the story would be different; but this particular system makes no sense.
So your telling me hydrogen gas has net 0 joules of energy and isnt a highly explosive gas. They couldn't tune the fuel pump to restict fuel pressure either? Think a bit harder than highschool science class bud. I felt dumber reading your comment.
I assure you the gas is quite energetic. Some engines only burn 80% of the fuel or less. That leaves a lot of room for improvement. It is not over unity, it is just using a little more energy to bring that efficiency level really high. Thanks for the comment.
I'm not going to get real technical but the vacuum line you are using is at the back of the manifold so your back cylinders will get more HHO than the front, see if you get better results by introducing the HHO under the Throttle body so HHO is more evenly distributed to the cylinders.
Dude idk your name or who you are but you. You are my hero. The only thing i want in life is to have one of these made for my subaru. God bless you dude
One of the biggest lies you will ever here is that, "You can't do that." They try and tell you that the "science" doesn't support it or the laws of "physics" won't allow for it. They bought into the lie and are blindly following their government masters. This is a great video. If you can make this better then do it and post up and lets see what you have. This guy is doing it. I love all the arm chair quarterbacks but action speaks louder than words. This guy has 30K miles and says it works. I say instead of regurgitating your government master's lies from your recliner get up and make one and prove him wrong. Boom, mic drop, silence, crickets...
If one were to build this to sell, I'd say incorporate an EVAP purge solenoid in the engine vacuum line. Run that solenoid off a relay, that let's you have low amp switch on the interior panel of your choice. That isolates the hydrogen generator from the intake... to some extent.
Whats the technicals behind this? Why are so many people saying it doesn't work.? You sound like you know what you're talking about. Is there anyway we can chat?
@@YNYNYNYNYNYN in theory it works. It absolutely produces hydrogen. If its hooked up correctly and monitored by scan tool data, that is the most definitive proof of if it works or not. I'd say as a base run, get on flowing highway, maintain 55-60, engage generator and figure a way to pulse width modulate the ground for the new "purge" solenoid you would add. If the fuel trim numbers aren't going negative, there's too much O2 in the exhaust so the car will just add the same fuel. I would need this all played out to condemn it. Theres the efficiency of the total thing at play as well. Someone posted some number like it takes 238 joules to produce 200 joules worth of hydrogen. I'm not calling that fact, but infinite momentum/energy has yet to be released to the general public. If I had time and money to donate to this science experiment, I would. I've produced hydrogen off a cell just like this. The yield is small even up to 10 amps. I think the answer to volumetric efficiency of this would be to increase the plates size and numbers. More surface area to ionize= more hydrogen/more efficiently using the size of the jar/generator
@@YNYNYNYNYNYN part 2! Your car monitors needed fuel by a calculation of load by,rpm,air temp, coolant temp, manifold pressure, barometric pressure, grams per second of air flowing past the mass air flow sensor, voltage from the throttle position sensor and in closed loop it looks at the oxygen sensor. Closed loop is hot engine, hot cats, hot oxygen sensors. Oxygen sensors produce voltage based on oxygen content in the exhaust. If oxygen becomes more prevalent by adding hydrogen+ its oxygen by product, car adds gasoline to reach a stoichiometric mixture. The car has no logic programmed for the primate trying to circumvent the fuel source.
@@YNYNYNYNYNYN id also not discount the people who have actually built this and claim to buy less gas. Vs keyboard warriors who looked a bunch of stuff up on Google and just don't agree its doing anything, so iTs StOoPiD
Thanks man. I'm going to speak with my mechanic mate and ask him to translate this for me in a much simplified way i appreciate your information. I really want to do this.
99% are missing the point on this technique. Its about how it improves the combustion efficiency in the cylinder because the hydrogen acts like a catalyst for combustion, because it is the fastest moving element in the mixture. It helps to spread the flame front to provide more complete combustion. Hence the mileage improvement. It does not take much hydrogen to enable this to occur.
29A is about 400W. depending on alternator voltage. For this to be practical, the increase in efficiency would have to generate in excess of 400W to be practical. Also, the electrolysis cell in this video is very inefficient as it is subject to huge resistive power losses which do nothing in terms of gas generation - after some time, you're just boiling water, the temperature which is reduced due to the vacuum. The neutral plates I saw do help a bit but do note there is still resistive path between 12V plate and the ground plate. Not only is H2 and O2 going into the engine, so too is water vapour which tends to reduce the efficiency of the burn. Note that excess H2 and O2 is actually considered a loss to the engine because this will never recoup the power that was extracted by the engine to generate that H2 and O2. It would be better if 1. The voltage to the plates were reduced to about 2V, will also need bigger plate area to compensate for lower voltage. Plate spacing can be reduced, but not too much otherwise gas generation will be reduced. 2. The second bottle needs to be higher than the first with its bottom connected by some tubing to return condensed water back to first bottle. 3. The second bottle also needs to be packed full of some type of brass wool which will serve two purposes a. if any flash back occurs, the flame will be extinguished before reaching the main gas production bottle, preventing an explosion b. The brass wool will cool the water vapour to liquid (hopefully) - Note the brass wool needs to be thermally connected to some cold sink. Under vacuum, the boiling point of water is reduced and you want to prevent water vapour getting into your engine. 4. The power is regulated, perhaps if this was fed via a computer program that monitors engine parameters via OBD2 port. No sense in pumping excess H2 and O2 into the cylinder than the amount of fuel in there. This should keep the efficiency of the system over a wider RPM. I am not doubting the increase burn efficiency but am very skeptical. None of the videos I have seen show the vehicle on a dyno with and without the generator so it's kind of hard to believe these guys. Hard to know if some kind of bias is involved. Perhaps they are driving more efficiently with the generator installed and therefore show better fuel economy.
And the alternative fuel is vacuumed into the engine? I don't think that vacuum is connected to the fuel injectors. So how does the hydrogen fuel get into the fuel system?
@@MrLgmurphysr It does not need to be connected to the injectors. when the engine is pulling in air it can pull alternative fuels also through the air intake.
I met a security guard who did this to his 2001 BMW 740i. Took him 3 months. It drove just like any other car. You have never knew it was running a hydrogen hybrid system.
Thank you so much for posting this and clear explanation. Have watched a few, but your video is somehow clearest. Vehicle off road because would not pass smog.. three years ago. Love it and bought it right before my daughter was born.. she keeps asking when we get to ride in it again. So excited to see this video and hoping to implement your instructions, as soon as possible, for a 93’ 300 ce Benz. Have some mechanical and electrical knowledge ..might have to work on this at 5 am!.. but I think it will be so very worth it. Very Grateful! Be Well
Excellent! Thank you for the video. I've had so many ideas, but lack the electrical knowledge on how to do it. Hope you inspire others to try things too.
If you understand the physics and the chemistry involved here, electricity should not be hard to get your head around... At the simplest level, it's like plumbing. Study up, and follow safety rules.
You're making the assumption that we're powering the engine with HHo. That is a misunderstanding. Not all of the gasoline is burned in the combustion process. We are simply burning as much as possible in the cylinder instead of the catalytic converter. Any gain at all comes from the gasoline that we are using and not the HHO. New video coming soon so be sure and subscribe. Thanks very much for the comment.
@@metalpresstv. Nope. You are making the assumption here. There's a good reason why the world is not powered by electrolysing water under vacuum. It takes more energy to break the valent atomic bonds to release the hydrogen and oxygen than the resulting gases can themselves supply. To claim that you are getting better mileage or better performance would be to claim that you are pulling extra energy out of your ass. Sorry, but the second law of thermodynamics says that you're a liar.
I’m guessing it’s about 1/100th horse power minus the drag on the on the alternator. When the wires going into the glass jar “HYDROGEN FUEL CELL” haha he will blow the shit out of the engine bay.
@@sondresrbraten205 You are taking away power(hp) from the engine to produce hydrogen and you gotta give those back and plus some extra to increase the efficiency and get more miles. But you use more than give back and thats why this can't work. So yeah, it is about horsepower.
Great video. We must do a international organization to prom hydrogen combustion motors. Is the real future, but oil business are fighting to be alive for many years. Best Regard from Mexico City.
hey my friend i live in mexico as well and are interested in building these so we can make a cheap help out poor people ti=ype of buisness i want to try to make some of these and test them out so i can help out peoople who have old v8 car or 6 cylinder cars so they can run efficiently
Your beleif that "big oil" is keeping this away from you and not seeing that your own inability to see that it actually doesn’t work is what's keeping you poor. You can't create energy out of nothing. The electricity needed to create the hydrogen comes from the generator/alternator, the energy needed to make the alternator work comes from.. You guessed it, the engine, and where does the engine get it's power from? The fuel, the freaking fuel! You could drive a car on hydrogen, but it's not possible to create it with energy from the same engine you're trying to operate of that hydrogen. Understood? (I must be insane even trying to cure stupid)
Today car running on water, TOMORROW, flight. Very Tony Starks. Congratulations man. Maybe you can help these other so called genius to create time travel, that way we can help correct our history and prevent RDJ dieing anf the original 'SNAP'. Time to tamper with my silverado and our water tank.... BRB
that is completely safe of course. NASA has tested it - and they are well known for their rigorous testing of pickle jars. Almost all of their spacecraft engines are built with them.
I hope everyone knows that water comes out of the tailpipe of any old internal combustion engine. You can learn this from chemistry or just watching any car for any reasonable period of time.
@@joe3414 I meant water as in H20 not just the liquid form of water. So H20 vapor is created by combusting fuel and then when the vapor cools it turns to liquid water. For the sake of simplicity, you can take gasoline as C8H18. Then, C8H18 + 12.5O2 ->8CO2 + 9H20
I hope that you installed a spark arrestor, just in case of a backfire. I used a small piece of pvc tube about 6" long, small diameter. I filled it with copper wool and capped both ends. Each end has a fitting and the unit is installed inline to the vac source.
its very simple... electrolysis generate's hydrogen and oxygen from water... you feed it into the intake of the engine (since its not liquid like gase thats it) an engine will suck in as much as it needs to run. backfires are easily supressed with a spring top bottle.. backfire = the top pops up release gas then closes.. totatally safe. if I recall nasa use's hydrogen as fuel for the simple fact... what they said... "Hydrogen is the best.. SAFEST FUEL in the world"
@@harleyme3163 First problem, i see here, it is BS. Before you start pissing on me i will explain: 1. This is NOT a fuel cell. It is a standard HHO generator. 2. It costs more to supply energy to this system then to use gasoline. Best electrolysis HHO generators operate at about 70% efficiency. I doubt this home made device is that good. And he would need a few tons of batteries for it to work. If you have that much power in a form of electricity, why convert it into chemical power with 30% loss? Use it directly - inverters have about 98% efficiency. Electric motors are similar with efficiency. 3. Let's assume 2l motor, 4 stroke. So it takes 1l of fuel mixture for one revolution. This little jar wouldn't produce enough mixture to run any engine besides maybe a little few cc toy motor. Yes it may work, but it will have a very lean mixture and no power. That's a beauty of hydrogen, it will work with very low concentration too. 4. If this is a normal gasoline engine, it will get destroyed quickly. Water, different working temperature, different behavior of combustion. Wonderful comparison of combustion gasoline and hydrogen motors was done by channel "Engineering Explained" - "The Difference Between Gasoline And Hydrogen Engines"
Water/alcohol water injection systems actually work, they were used on many American fighter planes of WWII and they provided a 20%+ boost when activated for emergency situations. But the original system required a tank, some plumbing and a pump to inject the mixture into your engine. This looks a little sketchy, but it probably works on a limited basis. There are systems sold for this purpose, my father in law used a Speer system on his R/V and it provided a boost in economy and performance. But kudos for your efforts in making this system.
This is definitely a different approach from that. I myself owned an Edelbrock water injector. It is pretty amazing they quit making all of that. We have a new video coming out on this topic very soon so be sure and subscribe. Thank you very much for the comment.
My father in law had one on his big motorhome in the 1970s or so. It was made by Speer and ran on manifold vacuum. He was able to advance the timing a couple degrees and got better performance and gas mileage, too...@@metalpresstv
Great video. I would use a plastic lid and a non-breakable plastic jug. If the lid is metal, I would pass the wire through rubber grommets to prevent vibration wearing through the wire insulation and conducting to the lid - if over time both wires wore through the lid, a tiny spark could explode the hydrogen with any air in the jar.
@@VinelandVinny Good point on the plastic melting. I would try a plastic jar and lid filled with water - no electric flow - and see if it can hold up to the heat. I did say if you use a metal lid to use rubber grommets for the wires for the best protection from shorting. If you could also line the inner walls of a metal jar that would be best, but glass to me looks like an accident waiting to happen - as is this whole project because Hydrogen is involved.
The bad thing about plastic is it might be able to handle the heat but when you combine vacuum and heat it's pretty hopeless. Just my two cents. It video coming soon, thanks guys.
@@metalpresstv I hear ya! I am now thinking a metal lid with rubber grommets for the wires, and a metal jar with some kind of insulation inside just incase the electrodes inside get jarred (no pun intended) around. Glass is just too fragile for my nerves.
So the 2 issues Ive encountered is 1 : if I have a 5.0l engine idling at 900rpms, then its displacing 4500 liters per min or 75 liters per second... Sure you make hydrogen in the GALLON PER HOUR area of volume/time when you need a GALLON PER SECOND flow rate. A fuel cell the size of a 5 gallon bucket wouldn't come close and that's just at idle let alone under load where BSFC comes into play 2 : the hydrogen fuel causes a lean condition during closed loop o2 air/fuel correction... This makes the ecu/ecm/pcm increase injector pulse width to make up for the false lean conditions. This makes the point moot on any o2 corrected vehicle during closed loop part throttle cruising
Also, even if you could produce enough hydrogen, taking into consideration the Sankey flow, where 33% of power is lost to exhaust heat, 29% to the cooling system, 5% in mechanical loss and another 5% to radiation, there's only 28% of combustion used for power. F1 cars barely reach 35% efficiency with millions of dollars in tech. Compare the specific energy density of gasoline vs hydrogen, which hydrogen falls way, way short of gasoline on. It's impossible to achieve efficiency beyond this point with internal combustion engines with gasoline and especially with hydrogen. Then you have to consider the drastic change in flame front speed of the combustion of gasoline vs hydrogen, the engine ignition timing is way off from what would be required of hydrogen combustion. You would experience almost catastrophic pre-ignition.
The hose that goes into the inlet, is connected after the O2 sensor, actually. This way you odnt allow the computer to get confused about the 'richer air' mixture and start sending more gasoline into the process.
I built and installed one of these on a dodge 318 c.i. pickup I had and experienced about 10 % less gas usage. Only problem I had was it took so much current from my battery that i couldn't use my A.C. and my headlighs without the lights dimming when I stopped at a red light !!!
Everyone talks about bypassing O2 sensors and such but if you make your engine stock with no electronics or PCM the problem is solved...remember, before petro was put into cars the combustion engine was designed to run on water until people got greedy so this shouldnt be complicated.
there is no disputing that adding hydrogen and oxygen to your engine will make it run more efficient, but I don't see the point of running the generator off the alternator, ultimately you are just reducing efficiency and seems like a wasted exercise
It takes more energy to separate the hydrogen and oxygen from the water in the jar than it gives back during combustion when the hydrogen and oxygen are put back together.
This guy took a 96 GMC and transformed it into a real hybrid vehicle lol. Give the man credit and props because he did it without waiting at the dealerships and nobody can say shiet. It looks ghetto but at least he does not have to worry about paying for gas as much. But what matters is that its a prototype start though.
For poorly running engines, especially on old vehicles with carburetors, adding hydrogen (and oxygen) gas to the intake can improve combustion, because the gas mixture aids ignition. For newer vehicles with fuel injection in good shape, it isn't going to make much (or any) difference because the fuel-air mixture is carefully controlled and combustion of the fuel is close to 100% by design. You can try this if you want, but there isn't much point unless you have an old vehicle with a carburetor. For fuel injected engines, you're better off testing all your sensors, cleaning the injectors, and generally getting your vehicle running properly instead of using this 'hack'.
Combustion of the fuel is not near 100%. Even on brand new vehicles. What would they sell in 10 years if ICE were at their peak this year or the next one.
Where did you come up with new vehicles running at 100% efficiency? They do make controllers so you can take advantage of different fuels. Ever went to drag race. Combustion engines still use carburetors. Fuel injection is just easier to control.
I love how he's made this out of a couple of pickle jars... I was thinking "what if they break?!"... then I realised he could pull over at almost any store and buy a new jar of pickles... genius
Just buy a plastic container it'll last longer
$2 fix. And no mechanic needed.
Here they come car running off of water 💦
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Here they come car running off of water💦
🧓 Son, have you seen my large canning jars around? They are not where I keep them🤨!
those are some good-ass pickles too
High gas prices ...... who's come back to this gem while prices are 4x standard
Bro... prices are wat higher than 4X. They should be $0.30/litre. The government is fuc*ing us hard
Just curious how much does fuel cost over in the US?
@Jupiter-rs4zl it really depends on where you live in the states. If you live more towards the Gulf of Mexico intends to be a little bit cheaper because that's where they were fine a lot of the fuel... Prices are anywhere from $2.90 per gallon to$6 a gallon in certain states. Thanks very much for the comment.
@Jupiter-rs4zl California is 5.99 a gallon averagely... traffic depends where you travel takes 17-45 minutes normally , LA is 45 minutes to 2 hours on a terribly accident filled day. So here on the coast we travel by time not by distance. If you own a V8 truck that runs 18+ gallons to the mile and if that 1 mile takes you 17 minutes due to traffic your looking at way more then 18 gallons for that one little trip since all your gas is spent on traffic and crawling under 5mph, wheras a little 4 cylinder honda is way more gas efficient at 30+ miles to the gallon. And electric is a fail, we get warnings all the time about our power grid being strained .
I'm always looking to save gas at all times. Might make a low cc motorized bicycle. But I did get me a max mpg spec 93 Ranger as well. Pretty amazed with it, wonder if the mileage can be increased.
"Don't be disillusioned by how fancy this looks."
-priceless
Pickle jar and wires. I'm a Going to do this on a friend Car 1st To make sure I am doing This right
If not by that - you'll be disillusioned by the lack of MPG and performance gains.
do your home work its not tru. you battery will be empty befor you can start the car hahahahaha
I was coming to comment this 😂😂😂 dead
His cousin needed his 500ml beaker for a meth lab so he had to make due with what he had.
This is THE most backyard, country-bunking, half-baked, rudimentary ground ape contraption invention I have ever come across.
And I love it.
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It's fuckin genius
@@EGlobalTrading maybe so, but it works!!
Great demonstration of why they (oil/car industry and oligarchs) were eager to move everyone from carburetors to fuel injection.
You can do the same thing with fuel injection just a little more difficult cause you have to send it through the intake manifold
@@anthonykocks3385would you need to reprogram the vehicle?
I believe the car would adjust itself after awhile
Adding HHO to a fuel injection system would give you more power and less emissions but I think you’re right that you’d have to program the injectors spray to actually save on fuel
@timchapman8359 in some cases most definitely. But not in all circumstances. Manufacturers have been warned of this modification but it is so effective it has a very strange way of getting significant benefits. We have a new video coming out which will show some improvements we've made over the years be sure to subscribe and I thank you very much for your comment.
This generates HHO which is highly flammable, if you build this you need a back flow valve. A backfire could cause an big bang, a really big bang, a really really big bang.
So big you can cause a new big bang ...😂😂😂😂
No need 😆
Yeah. But most of us are old enough not to be so stupid as to need warning labels.
His “dryer jug” is supposed to be filled with water and used as a makeshift flashback arrestor
He instaled a arrester after tank of water to avoid flashback fire.
This video aged like bourbon.
Context?
I'm assuming becaus of high gas price and he said double the mileage
That smoky swill you almost wanna spit out but always swallow
12 years ago... Wow that is awesome home science & no need for an ejector button any more. I just love that we are creating explosive gasses, and the wires are looped on the connecting ends lol. That priceless & i love it. When i was a kid about 50 years ago, my brother & i used to make a hydrogen type gas with aluminum shavings we collected under the telephone lines and caustic soda. We blew giant weather balloons up and watch them disappear above the clouds. Occasionally the heat generated was too extreme and the coke bottles we made it in and the bottoms would explode out of them lol. We would look at each other with wide eyes and start the experiment again haha.
It's just an HHO scam that was the most popular in 2000's.
I've put a system in an older 63 dodge with a slant 6 in it. It works FANTASTIC, gives you a LOT more power and will save you 2 to 3 times in fuel consumption. The engine compartment cooled off right away and I dialed the carburetor and timing way back. I heartily recommend this for any car currently on the market,and the older ones too. Now all I need to do is figure out a way to put a small bottle on my bike!!!
We have a new video coming out when the timing is right that will show a much safer way of implementing the system. The Primary system itself hasn't changed much but you will find our improvements quite intriguing. Thanks very much for the comment, be sure and subscribe.
@@metalpresstvdoes that Silverado still run
holy fuck cant believe it just checking back after planning to set one up for years and now i got a 61 d200 so glad to see someone witha similar whip making it work. < 3
@@metalpresstvwhere’s it at?
@@metalpresstvwhen you making the video
"Don't rebuild anything you see In this video..."
2:51 " I highly recommend that you connect it as you see it in this fashion."
Exactly. Thanks for your comment.
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I like that it’s made mostly of trash that would otherwise end up in a landfill.
Why China don't make like this or US
@@a.freeamerican7267 PVC creates static.. bad idea.... glass does not
How often do you change plates?
This works!!! I’m so proud of you! And see your educated on this and use common since! Thanks for sharing your system!
It actually does not work. You introduce more air into the system and the fuel injectors will introduce more fuel therefore burning more fuel than normal............ Common Sense is a thing of the past my friends.
Holy cannoli! UA-cam should have suggested this video the very day that was up. He got me right away when he said "clean steaming the engine". At the very exact moment i think I had a "satori". The whole universe, for a very brief but illuminating moment, made sense to me: I subscribed!
He said “steam cleaning” not “clean steaming” like you said.
Perfect for when you want to make steamed hams
I did a very similar thing on my 150cc scooter. It gave me a measured increase of 50% in fuel mileage. We made a larger one for my father in law's dodge slant 6. Increased the power of that old worn out motor almost 3 fold. Where it would barely pull the van uphill, it pulled strong!
Wow, if only you could reproduce these results in actual tests you'd be a billionaire. Shame you're a liar.
Bullshit.
What was the dodge mpg like
@@stn7172 I have no idea gauge was broken
Thank you. This is one of the easiest ways I have seen to build a HHO generator. Thank you
9v battery dropped into bottle with high dose of electrolite
I come back and watch this from time to time
We have a new video we're working on that will be out very soon. We show the installation greatly improved and some serious advancements we have made. We've also learned a few secrets that you should find interesting. Be sure and subscribe so you don't miss it. Thanks for the comment.
@@metalpresstvdid you ever finish recording that next video?
@@vinm8297 It's been in production for over a year and will be released as soon as we finish the last segment. We have installed the system on a 454 stroker but we had to get to 454 stroker in line, before we install it and that took a very long time. Divorced choke, non- electronic system, EMP proof, stuff like that and timing problems were quite difficult getting it lined out. Thanks for your patience and keep checking back.
@@metalpresstv awesome, can’t wait to see it!
Will this work on a fuel injection engine? @@metalpresstv
I have been designing something like this for a long time, mine was much much smaller and could not even maintain a flame. But I'm glad to see that someone was able to do this successfully.
It's fake dude
@UCv5yiHyJu7VvNYezbluvWQw you can't make enough power to run a car engine. Sure you can make power but micro amounts of energy... Like how they make earth batteries.
@@coloradodirtbike5930 Granted it isn't very efficient and this guy needed to mix gasoline fumes with the hydrogen for the engine to even run, but I believe that it is possible. If you have different stages of this setup than it would be possible. However, it would be much more efficient to use an electric car.
I made a micro torch with a similar setup but to even compare to fuel assist a car you'd need more engineering then that
This is not a Hydrogen fuel cell. It's a hydrogen generator. BIG difference.
This is not a hydrogen generator. its a hydroxy booster...
Thou hast summoned me from the death, just as this comment.
The truth does not have an expiration date (Y)
and that's why it doesn't work. It can't generate nearly enough hydrogen to even turn the engine on revolution. Not powerful enough, because it's as the other commenter explained. It's oxy hydrogen and there is not NEARLY enough being generated by this little setup to make a damned bit of difference. Even as a supplement to gas. It take energy to make energy and this takes more than it makes.
Bill Does Stuff YOUR COMMENTS, WE ASSUME ARE BASED UPON YOUR OWN EXPERIENCE WITH YOUR OWN VEHICLE PRESENTLY ? ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER NEIGHBORS, COMMENTING ?
I did this for years on an 76 Dodge D100 with a 318. I never could get it to run on pure hydrogen without gasoline. Gasoline requires the engine timing to be set Before Top Dead Center but pure Hydrogen explodes rather than burns so it would have to be timed After Top Dead Center. The temperature of the combustion chamber is critical too because Hydrogen will detonate as soon as the intake valve opens regardless of the spark timing if the combustion chamber is too hot. I would take a two liter plastic bottle and put the hose coming off the fuel cell in it for a minute or two then light it with a Bic lighter. It would shoot into the next subdivision. These fuel cells actually produce a lot of Hydrogen and you can make it useful.
Hydrogen isn't all that flammable, even less than propane but when you have the other byproduct (oxygen) its very explosive and helps burn the gas more efficiently.
Hydrogen has a self combustion at think at 500 degrees Celsius vs gasoline at 240s degree Celsius so I don't know about that explosion idea with the tubing.
What sort of fuel saving did you get and is there a loss or gain in power?
@@sjg3890
i can't tell you exact numbers, but you do save on fuel and it doesn't require that much power to make it work.
you could easily produce the gas for free using solar power from a few good solar panels.
Do you have a video out?
You can't violate the first law of thermodynamics.
"Hold my beer."
really hold my moonshine.
"Don't be disillusioned by how fancy it is." I love this guy!
"This is vary fancy" proceeds to show you the bottom of a lid of a pickle jar 😂
Really lol 😆 🤣
Mom's pissed
@@Brittvanegas no I'm not
Maybe so, but you didn't make one yourself i bet! Go back to your mommys basement and get online...hurry hurry!
@@gunguyforlife630 🤦👆 this guy.😂
You explained so simply and easy.. And went to talk right into the point... Thankyou very much for sharing and doing your best to help out to find real solutions for the gas problem!
HAHAHAHHAA 32+ dildo know-nothing losers
Can someone make a parts list?
@Dave Pin do you think a 2000 ford ranger computer needs to be modified?
@Dave Pin for the engine not to run too rich.
He left out a few critical statements here. Introducing more air into the vacuum line will cause fuel injectors to introduce more fuel, therefore burning way more fuel than you did before. Also without a good way to vent the gas you would most likely build up enough HHO gas under the hood to kill everyone in the truck................................If it's on the internet and someone made a extra long video about it = IT MUST BE TRUE? XD
This dude is still alive, I hope?
😂
As long as he's not trying to sell the technology, he's fine.
JustinHit. I don’t think so. Just putting this video out is enough to get a death penalty.
this man does not live long this way. you should know if you separate water into hydrogen and oxygen, he forgets what else is released!!! for example, glow and pale,
Dominique meijer. Water consists of 2 Hydrogen atoms & 1 Oxygen atom (H2O). When you separate water into it’s two parts there is nothing left.
Bravo! Amazing. Thank you. Can you please make another video showing how to connect the hydrogen cell to the combustion system of your car. I would appreciate that. This is what we need more in the world. Bravo. It was very brave of you to test this model in your car despite the potential risk of a fire hazard. I am glad and impressed by your effort - good to know that your Hydrogen cell fuel system has been performing well for 30,000 miles now.
He explained it in this video. The HHO gas line is connected to the vacuum line running to his master cylinder. That only works if you have an older Carburetor. Newer vehicles with Fuel injectors would have to do something different.
@@mordiev I have a Nissan hardbody 1995, it has a similar layout. Also it sounds like a great experiment!!
@@natanaelmartinez7620 it'd definitely be fun... just as long as you remember it could explode at any minute... he doesn't separate the hydrogen from the oxygen so the gas mix is incredibly explosive at all times... and theres live wires dangling in there with like 23 amps passing through (more than enough to spark)... he's literally powering his car by syphoning the explosive mix from a home made bomb... if it backfires the whole thing could go boom and launch glass shrapnel everywhere haha (consider installing it in a vented steel box)
@@oligould8575 that’s why you fun the gas through a ‘Bubbler’ 🙄 Cheers …
@@oligould8575 I meant RUN the gas 👀
Finally got around to building one for my 93 gmc 5.7 with a tbi.....its freaking amazing!
Did it increase your mileage? Pls tell us about what you noticed
@@Jumjah it did increase the fuel mileage by 4 to 5 mgh and highly increased the acceleration during passing and decreased the stinky exhaust smell. Just takes a while to get the mixture right. But I recommend giving it a try if you havent. I have a TBI set up on mine.
Sweeeet man thanks for sharing that info :D
@@Jumjah no problem my friend!
@@Kris-mr7pf did you do pretty much this design or did you buy one
got a dual cell in my truck now. very simple instructions. thank you guys. epic win .
i want to do this .
How was it?
You should update everyone on how that truck is now probably in the scrap yard and you've gone through batteries and alternators like crazy
@@jimmio3727 actually loaned it to a friend and he promptly ran it into a tree.
I looked up how to make hydrogen and it was going on about the power needed to and I was like using batteries that is cool but an alternator could put 12v and quite a bit of amps and then I found this guy who confirmed what i was thinking this Is awesome man sweet
Great work, but I would recommend moving the connection cable further away from the jar and also isolate it properly, otherwise in case of leakage you get a nice spark triggered hho explosion from the gas forming up under the hood.
There is no tank of hydrogen. This is an on demand system it's bullshit but there is no risk of "explosion". Lol
Yeah no it's leaking, so eventually a reservoir could build up under the hood.
This calls for tunnel ram 🌬
Where's yours?
The danger lies with the hydrogen and oxygen being in the same jar in the first place. Two jars connected by a water hose at the bottom, the anode in one jar and cathode in the other. Gases are collected seperately and mixed in the carburettor to keep chances of unwanted explosions or fire restricted to a smaller volume and location.
This set up works best on older cars since todays cars computers have O2 sensors which regulate the amount of fuel/air mixture in the cylinders. there is a work around that someone came up with. If you have a gas generator this could work as long as you had enough power to generate the amount of HHO to run it.
EFIE (Electronic Fuel Injection Enhancer)
The EFIE is intercepting signals from the oxygen sensor to the computer and fools the computer by giving it false exhaust readings from the Oxygen sensor.This is necessary because the computer is set up for a regular burn of fuel and compensates for the more efficient and cleaner burn by dumping more gasoline into the engine (until it gets the reading it expects) which ruins your fuel savings.
Gasoline burns better (cleaner less waste) with HHO gas because the increase burn temperature .
You can buy a EFIE on the internet or if you have the skills you can build one.
Theyve been using the current EFI systems with o2 sensors since halfway thru 1985.
This setup does not work on any car because it uses more power to split water molecules than you get out.
The truck in the video is using an EFI system...
An efficient electrolizer must be used
EFIE device or similar must be used
Ignition timing (ATDC) must be changed
Even compression ratio adjustments (more)
That way you will get the most out of this, otherwise expect the ussual 10% only improvement.
A lot more magnetic field 😊
My boy literally copied this over to his mustang! About 13 years ago tho..Love that I stumbled on the video!!
Be sure and subscribe because we're working on a new video covering this topic. We show an improvement that makes it safer to operate. We have a different design plate setup that also produces an extremely large amount of gas. Thanks very much for the comment.
@@metalpresstv 👍🍻
A friend of mine used a setup that used 3 equal parts hydrogen peroxide (industrial solution), rubbing alcohol (90% i think), and water he said it was like 1 drip every 3 seconds and it took him 3-4 engines to get right (kept melting them) but his little monza was getting almost 80mpg. If you wanna play with this set up all I can say is monitor your temp closely. He had 40+ vehicles he could pick for parts. But enjoy
@@randall1959 yeah all these people claim "to know a guy" lol
The thing is that it's never verified. Video or it didn't happen.
@@randall1959 It being verified or not doesn't matter. Just think about the amount of peroxide and alcohol that setup would consume. At that point its just part of the fuel. Getting "80mpg" doesn't matter if you are consuming a gallon of whatever chemicals along with that gallon of gas. Especially when those chemicals are a lot more expensive than gas is. Even if the story is true, its just a neat thing someone did with an engine that isn't useful for anything.
100% false. A little common sense and u know this isn't true.
@@lobsterbarkOne drop every three seconds or 20 drops per minute. 20 drops per minute are equal to 1 ml or 60 ml per hour which is roughly 0.25 of one cup. So he definitely wouldn’t be burning gallon for gallon of this mix and gasoline. Hydrogen peroxide alcohol and water have all been used in engines with injection. Alcohol increases the octane while water helps cool the engine. Adding hydrogen peroxide would probably result in a more efficient burn as it breaks down into oxygen and water. So this mix may increase horsepower and mpg some but I doubt it would lead to an increase like he is claiming unless the car was already getting a ridiculous 75mpg lol. I also highly doubt his buddy burnt his engines out. There have been a lot of inexperienced people doing injection with water for the first time and hydro locking their engines my guess is that’s what happened to his.
I've been working with hydrogen generators for about 7 years and there are some issues I can see here. The video makes no mention of how to "trick" the o2 sensor into thinking everything is normal with the increase in oxygen from the hydrogen production. If you don't install an o2 manipulator or somehow fake out the o2 sensor, your generator will be useless. Your engine will adjust your gas consumption accordingly once it detects the increased oxygen. Second, having wires go through the sharp holes on the metal lid will eventually cause a short and your hydrogen generator will go BOOM. Third, the increased h2o, which is a by-product of hydrogen generation, will quickly corrode your exhaust system. I mean quickly corrode. The money you will spend on exhaust repairs will outweigh the savings on gas. I installed mine on my Cadillac, which by the way, happens to have a stainless steel exhaust system. My car went from 28mpg to just over 40mpg, but ONLY after I installed an o2 manipulator I purchased online.
An o2 manipulator is corrosion friendly?
Where does this O2 manipulator go, does it replace the O2 sensor in the exhaust? Thanks.
Carbureted man come on. Not mpi no obd2.
Most people that do this, from what I've seen, tend to put the hydrogen input past the O2 sensor. As far as I've seen in newer vehicles most O2 sensors are halfway up the intake, so there's plenty of room to add in a hose and reseal.
I think your talking about the maf sensor the 02 sensor screws on the manifold there is a 02 manipulater sensor you can buy that looks the same that you screw in there and trick it to make the car run rich or lean and this makes since cause if you don't manipulate the 02 sensor it will tell the motor to push more gas if you manipulate it then it should compensate for the hydrogen.
286 kJ/mol is required to electrolyze the water.
241 kJ/mol is released when HHO is burned.
This would only make sense if you were running the electrolyzer on its own battery bank that you charged at home. But then you'd have the added weight of more batteries forcing more work on the engine anyway.
The engine is getting power mainly from gas. He’s just adding hydrogen and oxygen to the air intake to get more fuel. So the alternator is producing some fuel essentially
@@bryanoverbey Yeah, but the alternator is spun by the engine. Put more load on the alternator and more fuel is required to run the engine.
@@nicks2437 Yes that is true, but when the car's battery is fully charged the alternator is still spinning with the potential to generate energy. So you are getting parasitic energy loss from turning the alternator anyway.
Say that turns out to be 40 Watts of energy to spin the alternator and not generate any energy.
Then if you now add this HHO system, you may draw 200 watts to run it, but gain 180 watts from burning it.
You no longer have parasitic alternator usage, so you're only burning 20 watts to spin the alternator instead of 40.
These are made up numbers, and although I have a B.S. in physics I'm not sure my idea is accurate, but I'd like to find out more..
@@bryanoverbey While that may be true of alternators from decades past that used permanent magnets, modern alternators are designed with electromagnets so that the output can be varied to meet demand. So parasitic loss isn't really a thing anymore. And even if the battery is full the alternator is still powering all your vehicles electrical components.
Realistically, if this system was viable for fuel savings then vehicle manufacturers would have incorporated it a long time ago and charged consumers through the nose for it.
>"Yeah, it costs an extra $3000 up front but you get that back within 10 years on the fuel savings. And don't forget to only run Ford branded electrolyte to maintain your warranty!"
@@nicks2437 More weight of batteries is harder on the engine? He doesn't need to run a 1,500 cell module battery bud. Lmao!!! The extra weight at MOST needed would be a 12-24 volt series system. Like in a semi truck/tractor-trailer.
That would be about 20-30 extra Lbs. Equal to his spare tire and jack. LoL!!
Edit: I should also add that I spent 20+ years engineering internal combustion components. I grew up as a heavy duty mechanic.
You can get a high output alternator that would deal with the 29 amp draw. 29 amps is not a lot of a draw. It's equal to the A/C compressor at full draw.
Do you know the stress of a fully engaged compressor on a motor running? 0.02-3% power loss.
And I need to address your alternator tech talk. *NOW ADAYS* alternators are elctro-magnetic? The have been elctro-magnetic for over 80 years. Ever since passenger vehicles switched to 12v from 6v.
PS - "If this was a viable and efficient method then it would be manufactured"??? 😑 Were you alive for the Saturn EV1 fiasco? When GM was forced to repossess all of them from people who bought them and drove them? The fuel companies were outraged. How about biodiesel. One of the greatest fuel systems in the world. It is illegal to convert and no manufacturer makes them. They would lose a ton of money.
Canola oil internal combustion engines are another issue. A lot of engineers are being monitored just for showing people their designs of canola oil run planes, cars and commercial equipment.
The only reason the fuel corporations are all onboard with electric and hybrid is because they started buying up lithium and cobalt mines and operations around the world. So now they make a ton of money even if they DO lose on petroleum fuel sales.
I bought 20 Pickle Jars for my house and now I Disconnected my utility power. Works great, but the house smells of pickles.
You get about 60-80% of the energy back when burnt it take to spilt water into hydrogen and oxygen when burning. Then an internal combustion engine is about 20% efficient. So burning hydrogen in an internal combustion engine to make electricity for hydrolysis is doomed to fail.
“Dont be dissalusioned how fancy this looks”. Ok chief.
😂😂😂
cbmbdb
If I had such a setup under my hood I’d show it to everyone! Then I’d tell them that I hardly ever have to buy gas! That way I’d look smart and they’d be jealous.
I ....I can't tell if you understood that he was joking
@@FrankGutowski-ls8jt lier
randell gribben
You mean liar, I assume.
Law of conservation of energy states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed - only converted from one form of energy to another. This means that a system always has the same amount of energy, unless it's added from the outside.
In other words the energy that powers the cell comes from the battery which pulls off the alternator which pulls off the motor.
Which also means no added gas mileage and means the same gas mileage as not even having the cell hooked up.
Actually this system in no way interferes with the law of the conservation of energy. The engine itself is only burning about 80% of the fuel the rest is consumed by the catalytic converter. What we are doing is burning all of the fuel in the cylinder instead of the emission system. All gains come from the gasoline.
@@metalpresstv Then it would burn more gas because the load on the alternator which powers the the battery that the cells uses. The only way this setup would actually work is by creating the energy from another source not using the battery or alternator.
@@suoppsdn9751 20% more gasoline is a lot of energy. I understand you need to back the powers that be and stand with all the forces of science. I would like to point out that if you think these interesting little crafts that have been shown to you by your government that are flying around are powered by lithium batteries you're sadly mistaken. There's more to science than what they teach you in school and college. We have a new video coming out soon so be sure and subscribe thanks for all the comments my friend.
@@metalpresstv
Allow me: In the video you state that the HHO generator consumes 29 amps. Assuming your truck runs at 12 volts DC, that is 29 (A) x 12 (V) = 348 (W). Your truck is probably a few horsepower and 1 horsepower is ~750 watts. There alternator is spun by the pulley. The pull is spun by the belt. The belt is spun by the engine's pully. The engine's pully is spun by the crankshaft. The crankshaft is spun by pistons pushing on it. The pistons are pushed by hot expanding gases. The hot expanding gases are the result of a chemical reaction between air(21% O2) + gasoline + HHO. The air comes from the air intake and oxidizes the gasoline. The HHO comes from the HHO gas generator. The HHO gas generator pulls 29 amps. Assuming your truck runs at 12 volts DC, that is 29 (A) x 12 (V) = 348 (W). Your truck is probably a few horsepower and 1 horsepower is ~750 watts. There alternator is spun by the pulley. The pull is spun by the belt. The belt is spun by the engine's pully. The engine's pully is spun by the crankshaft. The crankshaft is spun by pistons pushing on it. The pistons are pushed by hot expanding gases. The hot expanding gases are the result of a chemical reaction between air(21% O2) + gasoline + HHO. The air comes from the air intake and oxidizes the gasoline. The HHO comes from the HHO gas generator. The HHO gas generator pulls 29 amps...
The only NEW energy input into the system is the gasoline and air burning. All other steps CONSUME energy. The HHO generator will only produce a small fraction of the power out into it. The rest escapes from the water as heat. The HHO generator is costing an extra 1/2 horsepower and providing very little back.
Thermodynamics is a bitch.
@@thetruepetre2771 I'm not sure if you caught in the hundreds of comments where I've explained where the energy comes from. This engine wastes up to 20% of the gasoline. We are not in any way powering the engine with this gas. What we are doing is trying to burn as much of the 20% of the wasted gasoline which is wasted and burns in the catalytic converter. I understand your disbelief. There are hundreds of video showing and proving that HHO does not work. And they are right. Without a vacuum you cannot inject HHO into an engine and see any results at all. It was probably 17 years ago now when we started doing this and we discovered that fact very early on. Unfortunately we had already shared how to do this with many people and some people were disillusioned and thought it worked by squirting it into the carburetor. We proved it did not work and we moved on. When we put this system into the vacuum we had immediate changes in the engine. The smell of the exhaust changed and the catalytic converter remained cool and water began pouring out of the tailpipe. This system was tested by running the engine out of gas multiple times with the cell on and off and we proved it did boost the mileage considerably. We make no claims of over unity. We tell you exactly where the energy comes from and that is the gasoline and not the hho. A more efficient burning of the gasoline is all we are doing. Car makers do not make efficient engines and I think there's a reason. Just imagine if you made a vehicle that burned all of the fuel and it required no catalytic converter. Do you honestly think they can't do that? There's a reason that engines burn dirty. I appreciate your insightful comments and I hope you appreciate mine. You can rest assured I know all of the science behind it because I've been doing it so long. We have a new video on this topic and if you can tell from the age of the video it's been a long time. There's a reason we're not releasing it yet because it's not the right time. The time is coming and when we do I really hope you'll watch it. Thanks very much for the comment.
This kinda thing seems simple, but it takes one hell of an engineer to make it actually work good.
Mt Olive pickles are so delicious.. what was this video about ?In my state they will take you to jail for manufacturing meth with this setup.😁
The current obd-II set up makes this challenging. Been thinking about going back to pre obd-II that's for sure. Great vid and def food for thought!
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The hydrogen needs to be inserted after your 02 sensor
You can make hydrogen throughout hight sound frequency. The water molecules start moving very fast because we hit it and forced to collide each other, with that way we reduce electricity consumption and increase efficiency
I have seen and heard a lot of that over the years. I do know that pulsing can be more efficient as it allows time for the bubbles to get out of the way of the plates. I have yet to see anyone produce the Ferocious bubbling that can be achieved running the Cell at 100 amps. If they can do that with pulsing frequencies at say 5 or 10 amps I would be totally impressed. Thanks for the comment.
Any idea of what frequency, or frequencies?
@@TheHeartCharmer you need to use the 11th harmonic (2 frequencies, 1 at11x the other0, than with a sine wave generator(2) find the resonant frequency of a water molecule. This will produce hydrogen at a milliamp electrical load,. Separate the anode and cathodes as each will produce the gasses separately.(safety). A membrane installed in jar can produce electricity from the reassociation of the unused gas to water.
@@ranmanification Ok. Thanks for saying. Wish I had more time to experiment. Have you successfully achieved this yourself, may I ask out of interest?
For everyone saying why not use modern sensors for safety, those sensors only communicate and work under very particular variables. To implement a Purge Solenoid would require fuel mapping and a host of impedance issues for sure. Would be very difficult to solve. For example. Put a MAF from a toyota into a chevy and it will never run right. I believe this video shows the fundamental basics needed, but when open to speculation on safety it will take some time to solve. Very interesting concept with the "Steam Clean" statement. I'm sure it works wonders for carbon build up. Thank you for the video, friend.
won't the steam (water) corrode the engine instead of just cleaning it?
@@duhovnagozba1770 You're not thinking about this correctly.
@@narutofanz4 can you explain how I'm wrong - why won't it corrode?
We're using solid copper wire, not stranded. Copper skins itself over and protects itself. As far as the plates go it's extremely high grade stainless non magnetic. It will last a very very long time. We have a new video coming out soon so be sure and subscribe. Thanks for the comment.
@@duhovnagozba1770 because rust needs oxygen, most of the o2 explodes in the cylinder anyways and out the exhaust
Am I nuts? He didn't even put any water in the flashback arrester jar. Most dangerous HHO setup I have ever seen. LMAO.
The arrestor jar is self filling and drains back to the main cell when turned off due to a thermally initiated vacuum.
@@metalpresstv he said a "flashback" arrester. If any HHO gas ignites further down the line and comes back toward the HHO generator it'll blow up everything in the chain.
A flashback arrester creates a smaller controlled explosion instead of exploding your HHO generator jar. What I'm assuming you made is more of a pressure overflow jar, to keep your HHO generator from overpressurizing and cracking, but really all you've added is just a container of excess HHO gas waiting to explode if it sparks.
"Under Certain Circumstances" ~ Like rolling downhill. . . . .My brother in law saw this video and made this set up, we couldn't measure any difference in fuel economy what so ever!
It must take energy to break the water into hydrogen and oxygen. This energy is coming from the alternator. I think the alternator doing its thing as a generator with a load on it, supplying electricity to make the hydrogen, is in turn putting more load on the engine because you don't get something for nothing. This increases the gas mileage but some of the energy to move the car is coming from the burning hydrogen and the system ends up breaking even or possibly worse than using the gasoline alone.
You need too get a kit { I got it on Ebay } to hook to the O2 sensor to tell the computer it is dumping way too much fuel into the system I was getting 55 mpg in a 87 Dodge grand caravan with a set up of a HHO generator
The gas burns clean without the regulator you will burn MORE GAS
Im babysitting my grandson so I can not look in my shop what that O2 regulator is called ON NEWER cars they changed the O2 sensors to where you can not trick them with a battery current to make it cut back the fuel flow to run these set ups
That's why I said it doesn't work.
Hence the explanation from Jon.
www.defensenews.com/land/2017/04/03/hydrogen-fuel-cell-technology-could-bring-stealth-to-army-vehicles/
Ahh yes just enough hho gas being generated in this *exothermic* reaction to cool the water.
Pretty sure water to 2H+O is highly endothermic😅
@@josephvinson7348 Have you access to Google?
As a mechanic I'm very impressed. As also an electrician IM HORRIFIED AT HIS APPROACH
I find that confusing. As an electrician you should know that the number 10 gauge solid copper wire won't suffer from wicking when put into the water. Also, that wire is fully capable of handling 40 amp load. You see double circuit breakers on either side of the load. The only thing that would be questionable is the light switch. But as an electrician, I'm sure you're aware that those circuits are designed to not catch on fire. They undergo rigorous testing that normal toggle switches do not. I certainly do not condone anyone else replicating this however has an electrician you should be intrigued, not horrified. But, I completely understand. I respect your judgment. Do not replicate what you see here. Thanks very much for the comment. We have a new video coming out soon that shows some definite safety improvements that I think you would approve of. Don't forget to subscribe.
Can i go fuseless?
I can tell you from real world experience, that this works.
I actually used 6, 1 quart jars, daisy chained all the electric and hoses. Connected main vacuum to breather cover.
Mine was probably more crude of a design. I used normal metal coils. 2 in each jar, having a pvc pipe for seperation.
I did this for 3 months. 5 years ago. On a 1984 Chevy Truck. 1/2 ton single cab.
Went from avg of 14 mpg to 17 mpg. No other changes made. Not even an oil change.
So take that, naysayers.
@@lracegroeg7990 $$ and that vehicle was "lost" by my ex wife
Keep a spare alternator in the trunk lolololololol
Did you forget about the second law of thermodynamics? These fake stories are getting out of hand, people dont know shit electrodynamics or physics.
@@zo0ot404 sir, my story is definitely not fake
@@jasonrist6582 Just idling your engine is over a 600 rpms. Driving a 2.5 liter 4cly motor is about 150 cubic inches. That's 37.5 cubic inches per a cylinder. A cylinder fires ever 2 full rotations. So in a minute of idling at 600 rpms your engine will use 11,250 cubic inches of air a minute at just idle. That's a 187.5 cubic inches a second of air. You're not producing even 2 cubic inches a second. But don't forget that it's h2O 2 parts hydrogen 1 part oxygen. So 1/3 of the gas isn't even hydrogen it's oxygen. So not even 1% of the air being taken into the cylinder is hydrogen. The only thing being accomplished here is the alternator is working harder for the high amp draw dragging the motor down more reducing fuel mileage. This is why water isn't used as fuel in a motor vehicle.
Now don't forget we don't drive at 600 RPMs most people will be around 1800 rpms at cruising speed. That's 3x the amount of air with still the same hydrogen production. So now ur way below the threshold of .03% hydrogen in the cylinder. Using a spark arrestor on the output hose to keep from blowing the jar up you would be hard pressed to even candle a flame let alone put anything measurable in every cylinder 900x a minute cruising down the highway at the speed limit.
Why be a liar. This is why we don't use water as fuel... Takes way more energy to make it then it produces. This is why in Iceland we use compressed hydrogen from a fueling station. You can't make the volume on the fly and if u could the energy I took to make it wouldn't be returned so you wouldn't be going far.
You should delete ur fake story just makes u look bad to any semi intelligent person
10g solid wire for automotive use , 120v flip switch and butt connectors in water . Surprised NASA has not hired you.
Go big or go home
Best easiest to understand hook up to car. Hands down
I come back to this video from time to time as I work on my own kit. I just now realized this years later that when he gives you the warning about this being dangerous, doing it like this is possibly a 100% chance of that happening 😂😂 I'm actually concerned if the OP is still with us all these years later. 😂 He built that like a professional home repair contractor.
Still here. With something still to offer when the time is right. Ty for the comment
@@metalpresstv haha Hell yeah! 👍
You could reduce the amperage draw by using plates with a smaller surface area for those with a lower output alternator.
Electrolyte:water ratio can also lower amperage.
Use a potentiometer 100 Watts 200 Ohms or something close.
The electricity for elektrolyses must be dc so you use the battery to start.
When your engine is running use a transformer from your alternator to 3.5 Volts. ( 10 Amps * 3.5 Volts is 35 Watts ) and put an AC-DC converter on the secundaire side.
On the DC side you put the potentiometer.
The hydrogen contains 3 times more energy than liquid petrol gas.
Use original lpg tubes to your engine.
@@marcelmolenaar5684 not sure what you're saying but it doesn't have to be DC for mixed gas, only if your separating the O and H.
you will get more amps with a stainless egg beater and steel wool
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From reading the comments it sounds like most of you are jealous or just don't want to educate yourself in any way to the guy that made the video thanks
There is nothing to learn. This is pseudoscientific nonsense.
@@FrankGutowski-ls8jt Ladies and Gentlemen... we have a clown in the building and he brought comments. Thanks Clown dude. Most people wouldn't see the value in spending their precious time leaving comments of no value to anyone, but not you, you're pseudo-smart and I like it : )
Patrick Walsh
It produces a minuscule amount of hydrogen and oxygen relative to the quantity of fuel and air consumed. You never hear how much because it’s never dawned on this and other hillbilly engineers to do so.
Tom G
Crankcase? Really? Regardless of where you think oxygen goes, it’s minuscule and vented to the air intake anyway.
Two pickle jars under yer' hood, this is the best kept secret since sliced bread!! Who needs a Ferrari, I got those pickle jars!!
I love the disclaimer about how there is a chance of death due to hho explosion. It seems like there’s a greater danger to those who make this work and talk about it online of being killed by the nefarious forces who hate the true independence this offers.
The problem is some people bite off much more than they can chew. It might look like a simple pickle jar with a hose hooked to a vacuum line but it's actually quite in depth. It takes quite a bit of skill and knowledge to put it together. We have a new video coming out soon that takes it a step further with some other features. Be sure and subscribe so you don't miss it. Making anything like this comes with inherent dangers that have nothing to do with the cell itself. Any new or Fringe technology is always under the scrutiny of the forces that be. Thanks for the comment.
Oh wow! You broke the laws of thermodynamics! What a genius. I hope you have alerted CERN and NASA.
Not sure why you would think that. We are just burning all of the fuel in the cylinder instead of the catalytic converter. The boost comes from normally wasted gasoline. Thanks for the comment.
gracias amigo:....The world needs more people like you God bless
I love hillbilly engineering!
Frank Gutowski nascar was once powered by booze
Alexander Weinhart
This is a good time and $ waster for science illiterates.
Browns gas... a patent for a gas that could potentiatly run a combustion engine.. 80 year old patent. go fig scienctist's knew about this long ago.
his version might be "hillbilly" but the one on my car is from a profession distruber of... drycells (electolysis units for hydrogen output)
@@harleyme3163
Lol. Read all about it here under the heading Fringe Science.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxyhydrogen
How this is still on UA-cam after 10 years lol
Back in the day, I didn't believe it, but some classmates in college bought an HHO device that supplemented the fuel in the car, and it did work. This is not perpetual energy. It wouldn't run without real fuel. Think they only saw a 20% jump in fuel efficiency ...still not bad though.
@@jerrogance Yes, why does it seem like every guru here doesn't realize it's an addition to the gas and not changing the fuel to hydrogen. It's so fucking obvious even a 10 year old would get it.
seeing this, makes proud to be an American.
The whole point in the second container is to prevent a backfire, to work it needs to be full of water. U basically just made a bomb ready to go off great job.
Have you seen the date of the video lol
Stanley Meyers first brought this Tech to the world, they killed him to suppress it.
This is the modern equivalent of the first person to light their fart
@@oneplaneteer1708 I assume you’ve installed one on your vehicle and gotten terrible results?
@@oneplaneteer1708 methane
@@oneplaneteer1708 I’m sure you’ve built an HHO generator that works properly? If not, go sit on the porch.
@@oneplaneteer1708 your logic would be solid except for the fact that Jesus has changed the world in countless ways and also lives rent free in your head. I hope God opens the gospel to you and your family as well, AMEN
Hell yeah!
Shared this with a buddy of mine. This will help him out in his endeavors. Thank you.
Remember all the armchair engineers who said this doesn't work 11 years ago?
So, if i've got this straight the suggested method for reducing fuel costs it:
1: burn fuel in the car as normal to turn the alternator.
2: draw more current from the alternator than usual.
3: use said current to power a very basic and inefficient electrolysis reaction to produce hydrogen.
4: route that hydrogen back into the engine so that it mixes with the existing fuel.
the weird thing is, I would have been certain that my old high school science teacher would have said that to extract more energy from a system you would need to burn more fuel.
he also said that in energy terms there's no such thing as a free lunch. So even if both the reaction to produce your hydrogen and the reaction to re-oxidize that hydrogen were 100% efficient you would end up with net 0 joules of energy coming out of the other side. So every single bit of energy loss in the system means you're burning MORE fuel to keep your truck going than if you hadn't added this system at all.
In short this "hydrogen fuel cell" (it isn't a hydrogen fuel cell) COSTS HIM MONEY EVERY TIME HE USES IT because it is reducing the miles per gallon on his vehicle.
(There's a reason why no one has ever built a power station where they repeatedly convert water to HHO and then back to water in a cycle to get free energy. That's because it wouldn't work)
Car makers are about to if not already releasing HHO cars. It's supposed to be the latest. I do believe the setup will work, and I'm planning on making the same setup. My only concern is the engines internal parts getting rusted. Like the piston rings, valves, etc. Mainly because the engine wasn't designed for water. I'm planning on having some sort of lubrication to the setup to avoid that. Now if the engine was manufactured to keep from getting rusted. I don't think there would be a problem, but may just be the solution to global warming.
@@bobt7531 Cars fully powered by HHO work very well, that isn't the problem I'm highlighting.
The issue is that energy is that electrolysis wastes quite a lot of energy by producing heat, this fact combined with the inefficiencies inherent in a alternator means that you would up burning more fuel with this system. Not less.
In physics you don't ever get more energy out of a system than you put in. If energy is released by a chemical change in one direction, it will cost you at least that much energy to change it back to the original state.
but there is waste at every stage. burning fuel to produce movement as waste in terms of heat and sound; turning that movement into electricity produces some waste heat and light; using that electricity to generate HHO produces waste heat; and finally burning HHO to produce mechanical movement wastes energy in terms of sound and heat.
All you have done in this complicated process is waste the energy that you produced by burning fuel.
If you were adding an HHO tank to your vehicle that you filled up at home the story would be different; but this particular system makes no sense.
Well, fooey on you. J/K Thanks for stopping me from blowing myself up for nothing.
So your telling me hydrogen gas has net 0 joules of energy and isnt a highly explosive gas.
They couldn't tune the fuel pump to restict fuel pressure either?
Think a bit harder than highschool science class bud.
I felt dumber reading your comment.
I assure you the gas is quite energetic. Some engines only burn 80% of the fuel or less. That leaves a lot of room for improvement. It is not over unity, it is just using a little more energy to bring that efficiency level really high. Thanks for the comment.
I'm not going to get real technical but the vacuum line you are using is at the back of the manifold so your back cylinders will get more HHO than the front, see if you get better results by introducing the HHO under the Throttle body so HHO is more evenly distributed to the cylinders.
Like a nitrous port.
Dude idk your name or who you are but you. You are my hero. The only thing i want in life is to have one of these made for my subaru. God bless you dude
One of the biggest lies you will ever here is that, "You can't do that." They try and tell you that the "science" doesn't support it or the laws of "physics" won't allow for it. They bought into the lie and are blindly following their government masters. This is a great video. If you can make this better then do it and post up and lets see what you have. This guy is doing it. I love all the arm chair quarterbacks but action speaks louder than words. This guy has 30K miles and says it works. I say instead of regurgitating your government master's lies from your recliner get up and make one and prove him wrong. Boom, mic drop, silence, crickets...
If one were to build this to sell, I'd say incorporate an EVAP purge solenoid in the engine vacuum line. Run that solenoid off a relay, that let's you have low amp switch on the interior panel of your choice. That isolates the hydrogen generator from the intake... to some extent.
Whats the technicals behind this?
Why are so many people saying it doesn't work.?
You sound like you know what you're talking about.
Is there anyway we can chat?
@@YNYNYNYNYNYN in theory it works. It absolutely produces hydrogen. If its hooked up correctly and monitored by scan tool data, that is the most definitive proof of if it works or not. I'd say as a base run, get on flowing highway, maintain 55-60, engage generator and figure a way to pulse width modulate the ground for the new "purge" solenoid you would add. If the fuel trim numbers aren't going negative, there's too much O2 in the exhaust so the car will just add the same fuel. I would need this all played out to condemn it. Theres the efficiency of the total thing at play as well. Someone posted some number like it takes 238 joules to produce 200 joules worth of hydrogen. I'm not calling that fact, but infinite momentum/energy has yet to be released to the general public. If I had time and money to donate to this science experiment, I would. I've produced hydrogen off a cell just like this. The yield is small even up to 10 amps. I think the answer to volumetric efficiency of this would be to increase the plates size and numbers. More surface area to ionize= more hydrogen/more efficiently using the size of the jar/generator
@@YNYNYNYNYNYN part 2! Your car monitors needed fuel by a calculation of load by,rpm,air temp, coolant temp, manifold pressure, barometric pressure, grams per second of air flowing past the mass air flow sensor, voltage from the throttle position sensor and in closed loop it looks at the oxygen sensor. Closed loop is hot engine, hot cats, hot oxygen sensors. Oxygen sensors produce voltage based on oxygen content in the exhaust. If oxygen becomes more prevalent by adding hydrogen+ its oxygen by product, car adds gasoline to reach a stoichiometric mixture. The car has no logic programmed for the primate trying to circumvent the fuel source.
@@YNYNYNYNYNYN id also not discount the people who have actually built this and claim to buy less gas. Vs keyboard warriors who looked a bunch of stuff up on Google and just don't agree its doing anything, so iTs StOoPiD
Thanks man.
I'm going to speak with my mechanic mate and ask him to translate this for me in a much simplified way i appreciate your information. I really want to do this.
99% are missing the point on this technique. Its about how it improves the combustion efficiency in the cylinder because the hydrogen acts like a catalyst for combustion, because it is the fastest moving element in the mixture. It helps to spread the flame front to provide more complete combustion. Hence the mileage improvement. It does not take much hydrogen to enable this to occur.
Just like the atom bomb is used as trigger in hydrogen bomb.
29A is about 400W. depending on alternator voltage. For this to be practical, the increase in efficiency would have to generate in excess of 400W to be practical. Also, the electrolysis cell in this video is very inefficient as it is subject to huge resistive power losses which do nothing in terms of gas generation - after some time, you're just boiling water, the temperature which is reduced due to the vacuum. The neutral plates I saw do help a bit but do note there is still resistive path between 12V plate and the ground plate.
Not only is H2 and O2 going into the engine, so too is water vapour which tends to reduce the efficiency of the burn. Note that excess H2 and O2 is actually considered a loss to the engine because this will never recoup the power that was extracted by the engine to generate that H2 and O2.
It would be better if
1. The voltage to the plates were reduced to about 2V, will also need bigger plate area to compensate for lower voltage. Plate spacing can be reduced, but not too much otherwise gas generation will be reduced.
2. The second bottle needs to be higher than the first with its bottom connected by some tubing to return condensed water back to first bottle.
3. The second bottle also needs to be packed full of some type of brass wool which will serve two purposes
a. if any flash back occurs, the flame will be extinguished before reaching the main gas production bottle, preventing an explosion
b. The brass wool will cool the water vapour to liquid (hopefully) - Note the brass wool needs to be thermally connected to some cold sink. Under vacuum, the boiling point of water is reduced and you want to prevent water vapour getting into your engine.
4. The power is regulated, perhaps if this was fed via a computer program that monitors engine parameters via OBD2 port. No sense in pumping excess H2 and O2 into the cylinder than the amount of fuel in there. This should keep the efficiency of the system over a wider RPM.
I am not doubting the increase burn efficiency but am very skeptical. None of the videos I have seen show the vehicle on a dyno with and without the generator so it's kind of hard to believe these guys. Hard to know if some kind of bias is involved. Perhaps they are driving more efficiently with the generator installed and therefore show better fuel economy.
@@adam3141 Interesting info.
You should use a 5 pin relay connected to the Alternator charge light to Automatically activate your hydrogen system when the engine is running.
And the alternative fuel is vacuumed into the engine? I don't think that vacuum is connected to the fuel injectors. So how does the hydrogen fuel get into the fuel system?
@@MrLgmurphysr It does not need to be connected to the injectors. when the engine is pulling in air it can pull alternative fuels also through the air intake.
I met a security guard who did this to his 2001 BMW 740i. Took him 3 months. It drove just like any other car. You have never knew it was running a hydrogen hybrid system.
Imagine harnessing a bolt of lightning into a giant network of these. Store it all in tanks.
This is not how physics work 😂
Thank you so much for posting this and clear explanation.
Have watched a few, but your video is somehow clearest.
Vehicle off road because would not pass smog.. three years ago.
Love it and bought it right before my daughter was born.. she keeps asking when we get to ride in it again.
So excited to see this video and hoping to implement your instructions, as soon as possible, for a 93’ 300 ce Benz.
Have some mechanical and electrical knowledge ..might have to work on this at 5 am!.. but I think it will be so very worth it.
Very Grateful!
Be Well
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@@metalpresstv TG the back ground music isn't this crap of today 👍. Lynyrd Skynyrd that smell
I would love to someone to build one of this for me give me directly like
Did it work???
Excellent! Thank you for the video. I've had so many ideas, but lack the electrical knowledge on how to do it. Hope you inspire others to try things too.
If you understand the physics and the chemistry involved here, electricity should not be hard to get your head around... At the simplest level, it's like plumbing. Study up, and follow safety rules.
You should learn thermodynamics first so you understand why this video is fake and this would never work and save yourself the trouble and making it.
Welcome to a world where the laws of thermodynamics do not apply and nobody has ever heard of the conservation of energy.
You're making the assumption that we're powering the engine with HHo. That is a misunderstanding. Not all of the gasoline is burned in the combustion process. We are simply burning as much as possible in the cylinder instead of the catalytic converter. Any gain at all comes from the gasoline that we are using and not the HHO. New video coming soon so be sure and subscribe. Thanks very much for the comment.
@@metalpresstv. Nope. You are making the assumption here.
There's a good reason why the world is not powered by electrolysing water under vacuum.
It takes more energy to break the valent atomic bonds to release the hydrogen and oxygen than the resulting gases can themselves supply.
To claim that you are getting better mileage or better performance would be to claim that you are pulling extra energy out of your ass.
Sorry, but the second law of thermodynamics says that you're a liar.
I'd love to see a before and after dyno pull to see any fluctuations is output
I’m guessing it’s about 1/100th horse power minus the drag on the on the alternator. When the wires going into the glass jar “HYDROGEN FUEL CELL” haha he will blow the shit out of the engine bay.
@@adriantaylor9535 12V at 30A is 0.36KW, about 0.5hp. Never gonna get those back from his "fuel cell"
No one said anything about more horspower. He said more miles.
@@sondresrbraten205 You are taking away power(hp) from the engine to produce hydrogen and you gotta give those back and plus some extra to increase the efficiency and get more miles. But you use more than give back and thats why this can't work. So yeah, it is about horsepower.
@@Stripcherry3 yeah i know this won't work. My point was only that he never said that the engine would get more power. 👍
Great video. We must do a international organization to prom hydrogen combustion motors. Is the real future, but oil business are fighting to be alive for many years. Best Regard from Mexico City.
hey my friend i live in mexico as well and are interested in building these so we can make a cheap help out poor people ti=ype of buisness i want to try to make some of these and test them out so i can help out peoople who have old v8 car or 6 cylinder cars so they can run efficiently
oil business has nothing to do with this. it's mother nature and her laws of physics that ensures, that such a setup would never work.
Your beleif that "big oil" is keeping this away from you and not seeing that your own inability to see that it actually doesn’t work is what's keeping you poor. You can't create energy out of nothing. The electricity needed to create the hydrogen comes from the generator/alternator, the energy needed to make the alternator work comes from.. You guessed it, the engine, and where does the engine get it's power from? The fuel, the freaking fuel! You could drive a car on hydrogen, but it's not possible to create it with energy from the same engine you're trying to operate of that hydrogen. Understood?
(I must be insane even trying to cure stupid)
Today car running on water, TOMORROW, flight. Very Tony Starks.
Congratulations man. Maybe you can help these other so called genius to create time travel, that way we can help correct our history and prevent RDJ dieing anf the original 'SNAP'.
Time to tamper with my silverado and our water tank.... BRB
that is completely safe of course. NASA has tested it - and they are well known for their rigorous testing of pickle jars. Almost all of their spacecraft engines are built with them.
I hope everyone knows that water comes out of the tailpipe of any old internal combustion engine. You can learn this from chemistry or just watching any car for any reasonable period of time.
Yes, but isn't it due to condensation, other than a exhaust.
@@joe3414 I meant water as in H20 not just the liquid form of water. So H20 vapor is created by combusting fuel and then when the vapor cools it turns to liquid water.
For the sake of simplicity, you can take gasoline as C8H18. Then, C8H18 + 12.5O2 ->8CO2 + 9H20
I hope that you installed a spark arrestor, just in case of a backfire. I used a small piece of pvc tube about 6" long, small diameter. I filled it with copper wool and capped both ends. Each end has a fitting and the unit is installed inline to the vac source.
wouldnt filling the other jar with plain water prevent this?
I want to see a more extensive and detailed video from you on this
its very simple... electrolysis generate's hydrogen and oxygen from water... you feed it into the intake of the engine (since its not liquid like gase thats it)
an engine will suck in as much as it needs to run. backfires are easily supressed with a spring top bottle.. backfire = the top pops up release gas then closes.. totatally safe.
if I recall nasa use's hydrogen as fuel for the simple fact... what they said...
"Hydrogen is the best.. SAFEST FUEL in the world"
@@harleyme3163 First problem, i see here, it is BS.
Before you start pissing on me i will explain:
1. This is NOT a fuel cell. It is a standard HHO generator.
2. It costs more to supply energy to this system then to use gasoline. Best electrolysis HHO generators operate at about 70% efficiency. I doubt this home made device is that good. And he would need a few tons of batteries for it to work. If you have that much power in a form of electricity, why convert it into chemical power with 30% loss? Use it directly - inverters have about 98% efficiency. Electric motors are similar with efficiency.
3. Let's assume 2l motor, 4 stroke. So it takes 1l of fuel mixture for one revolution. This little jar wouldn't produce enough mixture to run any engine besides maybe a little few cc toy motor. Yes it may work, but it will have a very lean mixture and no power. That's a beauty of hydrogen, it will work with very low concentration too.
4. If this is a normal gasoline engine, it will get destroyed quickly. Water, different working temperature, different behavior of combustion.
Wonderful comparison of combustion gasoline and hydrogen motors was done by channel "Engineering Explained" - "The Difference Between Gasoline And Hydrogen Engines"
@Rich B soon
@@ogi22 You dont have 2g of brain.
@@sikismeker You are right. In fact i have about 1,3kg of that in my head. Thank you for noticing ;D
Water/alcohol water injection systems actually work, they were used on many American fighter planes of WWII and they provided a 20%+ boost when activated for emergency situations. But the original system required a tank, some plumbing and a pump to inject the mixture into your engine. This looks a little sketchy, but it probably works on a limited basis. There are systems sold for this purpose, my father in law used a Speer system on his R/V and it provided a boost in economy and performance. But kudos for your efforts in making this system.
This is definitely a different approach from that. I myself owned an Edelbrock water injector. It is pretty amazing they quit making all of that. We have a new video coming out on this topic very soon so be sure and subscribe. Thank you very much for the comment.
My father in law had one on his big motorhome in the 1970s or so. It was made by Speer and ran on manifold vacuum. He was able to advance the timing a couple degrees and got better performance and gas mileage, too...@@metalpresstv
Great video. I would use a plastic lid and a non-breakable plastic jug. If the lid is metal, I would pass the wire through rubber grommets to prevent vibration wearing through the wire insulation and conducting to the lid - if over time both wires wore through the lid, a tiny spark could explode the hydrogen with any air in the jar.
You don’t think it will melt?
The plastic jug and lid that is
@@VinelandVinny Good point on the plastic melting. I would try a plastic jar and lid filled with water - no electric flow - and see if it can hold up to the heat. I did say if you use a metal lid to use rubber grommets for the wires for the best protection from shorting. If you could also line the inner walls of a metal jar that would be best, but glass to me looks like an accident waiting to happen - as is this whole project because Hydrogen is involved.
The bad thing about plastic is it might be able to handle the heat but when you combine vacuum and heat it's pretty hopeless. Just my two cents. It video coming soon, thanks guys.
@@metalpresstv I hear ya! I am now thinking a metal lid with rubber grommets for the wires, and a metal jar with some kind of insulation inside just incase the electrodes inside get jarred (no pun intended) around. Glass is just too fragile for my nerves.
So the 2 issues Ive encountered is
1 : if I have a 5.0l engine idling at 900rpms, then its displacing 4500 liters per min or 75 liters per second... Sure you make hydrogen in the GALLON PER HOUR area of volume/time when you need a GALLON PER SECOND flow rate. A fuel cell the size of a 5 gallon bucket wouldn't come close and that's just at idle let alone under load where BSFC comes into play
2 : the hydrogen fuel causes a lean condition during closed loop o2 air/fuel correction... This makes the ecu/ecm/pcm increase injector pulse width to make up for the false lean conditions. This makes the point moot on any o2 corrected vehicle during closed loop part throttle cruising
Also, even if you could produce enough hydrogen, taking into consideration the Sankey flow, where 33% of power is lost to exhaust heat, 29% to the cooling system, 5% in mechanical loss and another 5% to radiation, there's only 28% of combustion used for power. F1 cars barely reach 35% efficiency with millions of dollars in tech. Compare the specific energy density of gasoline vs hydrogen, which hydrogen falls way, way short of gasoline on. It's impossible to achieve efficiency beyond this point with internal combustion engines with gasoline and especially with hydrogen.
Then you have to consider the drastic change in flame front speed of the combustion of gasoline vs hydrogen, the engine ignition timing is way off from what would be required of hydrogen combustion. You would experience almost catastrophic pre-ignition.
The hose that goes into the inlet, is connected after the O2 sensor, actually. This way you odnt allow the computer to get confused about the 'richer air' mixture and start sending more gasoline into the process.
@@onlinebills9169 the o2 sensor is in the exhaust FFS.
@@onlinebills9169 Bra where are your oxygen sensors.....? 😅
@@elemele4real I left mine with your mom. Any other questions?
I built and installed one of these on a dodge 318 c.i. pickup I had and experienced about 10 % less gas usage. Only problem I had was it took so much current from my battery that i couldn't use my A.C. and my headlighs without the lights dimming when I stopped at a red light !!!
You had that much power draw and you SAVED fuel?....no...you did not.
Everyone talks about bypassing O2 sensors and such but if you make your engine stock with no electronics or PCM the problem is solved...remember, before petro was put into cars the combustion engine was designed to run on water until people got greedy so this shouldnt be complicated.
there is no disputing that adding hydrogen and oxygen to your engine will make it run more efficient, but I don't see the point of running the generator off the alternator, ultimately you are just reducing efficiency and seems like a wasted exercise
Alternator gonna turn similar rpm range no matter what and the torque it needs to function is minimal.
Catalyse a more complete burn?
It takes more energy to separate the hydrogen and oxygen from the water in the jar than it gives back during combustion when the hydrogen and oxygen are put back together.
one more compliment; very nice, easy listening voice Bro. takes hat off
This guy took a 96 GMC and transformed it into a real hybrid vehicle lol. Give the man credit and props because he did it without waiting at the dealerships and nobody can say shiet. It looks ghetto but at least he does not have to worry about paying for gas as much. But what matters is that its a prototype start though.
When I come to America, I’m coming to your house!!
You should have either a stainless steel exhaust system or an aluminized exhaust system to minimize the rusting of your exhaust system.
@@MrSilvertech and yet still rust out
Salt on the roads eats it alllllllll
@@RobertELee420 especially where i live. Its brutal
Unbelievable man, bravo
Meth is a hell of a drug
This can’t be real. Now to convert the Harley tank. Genius.
Everyone should do this, to reduce my guilt for feeding my V8 dinosaurs and prius parts.
Magic Yeti Dude, my jacked Titan loves those lil critters.. Specially the lil velociraptors, raw!
Yeah it's amazing how long those dinosaurs keep us going
This is as helpful to the environment as a Prius is. By that I mean only dumb people don't understand that neither helps.
WARNING I highly recommend fitting a flash a arrester in line between the engine and the dryer bottle. HHO is highly volatile, be safe.
If the dryer bottle was half full of water, than it would act as a flash arrester.
HHO is not volatile. It is actually used to put out fires.
How would you get flash through the brake vacuum line?
For poorly running engines, especially on old vehicles with carburetors, adding hydrogen (and oxygen) gas to the intake can improve combustion, because the gas mixture aids ignition.
For newer vehicles with fuel injection in good shape, it isn't going to make much (or any) difference because the fuel-air mixture is carefully controlled and combustion of the fuel is close to 100% by design.
You can try this if you want, but there isn't much point unless you have an old vehicle with a carburetor. For fuel injected engines, you're better off testing all your sensors, cleaning the injectors, and generally getting your vehicle running properly instead of using this 'hack'.
Combustion of the fuel is not near 100%. Even on brand new vehicles.
What would they sell in 10 years if ICE were at their peak this year or the next one.
Where did you come up with new vehicles running at 100% efficiency? They do make controllers so you can take advantage of different fuels. Ever went to drag race. Combustion engines still use carburetors. Fuel injection is just easier to control.
You're too stupid to have any kind of relevant opinion about pretty much anything.
Dude... this would never work SMFH
@@blanksender7808 you have actual evidence, or just insults?
Your a genuine genius