ND Cabin Filter Installation
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
- You can't always drive with the top down, but don't worry, our drop in filter from MLIT has you covered when you want to keep your air as fresh as possible with the roof up. In this video, join our Miata Master Mechanic, Kyle Tigar, as he shows you the step by step installation of our ND cabin filter.
MLIT ND Cabin Air Filter at Flyin Miata:
www.flyinmiata.com/default/nd...
A cabin air filter is a little silly for a convertible, right? No argument - when the top is down. When the top is up, you want to breathe the cleanest air possible. Here's how you do that. Straight out of Japan, this filter has two pieces - a mesh cover for the intake in the cowl to keep the big stuff out, and a filter specifically designed for fine particulate matter (PM 2.5). The main filter is electrostatically charged so it attracts fine dust and pollen, and it's also made out of an antibacterial material, so you don't have to worry about it developing an unpleasant odor. The installation is a bit more involved than most, but it's not terrible - check out the video to see what's involved.
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With that process for a cabin air filter, I would NEVER replace it for as long as I owned the vehicle!!
That could be happening.. I will be your guinea pig. I'd rather this than replace the blower motor in the future. 😎
It is a convertible after all why would one bother. Certainly don’t design for practicality these days
Sorry don't agree as you saw how big that opening under the cowl is & lots of junk can get in there causing the blower to work much slower or smell if something like water actually turns to mold on that inner screen. Not that hard to do either.
This is my 6th Mazda. Cabin air filters usually take about 2 minutes to change and zero tools or panel disassembly. The MX-5 is crazy. Thanks for the video, well done!
Thanks for sharing!
This is the most complex CAF replacement I’ve seen in a car! Nothing crazy hard but still a lot of trim to remove.
It's definitely a bit more involved than you would think, which is why we made the video to guide people through the process :)
@@FlyinMiataVideo thank you all!
Hahaha only if Mazda built a glove box in a passenger seat.
@@jaylee9918 they were too busy being awesome.
1st gen Mazda 3 was a huge PITA. This looks almost as bad.
FM walkthrough videos are the absolute best, thanks Kyle!
Thanks so much! We appreciate the compliment! :)
And to add, this is awesome to become a product available to owners that wouldn’t know this doesn’t come as standard like 99% of cars otr.
I am over the moon that you guys sourced and stocked this set. Bravo! On a lark, I emailed you guys having not been a Flyin' Miata customer a few months ago after I bought my ND about the lack of a particulate cabin filter. I never in a million years thought you would have stocked this part. Having forced air filtering really opens this car up to people who have intermittent outdoor allergies and sensitivities. Again, thank you, you've earned a customer for life.
Thanks so much! We're always looking for new and innovative product ideas, and it's always great to hear from customers that appreciate them! :)
@@FlyinMiataVideo Wow ! Iwas told by at least 3 Auto parts stores the 2016 ND has no cabin filter. Now I see another job coming thanks to this video & Kyle showing how to remove & install. Appreciate how Kyle does the video instructing where to put the force to remove them & put them back !
As you can see, there isn't a real filter from the factory for USDM models, but the spot is still there. Glad we could help!
I watched you video, ordered the air filter kit and went step by step to replace the parts. Awesome video! No problems whatsoever. Thank you so much. The new ld filter was jammed with leaves and debris.
Glad it helped!
You gave a very precise yet easily followable step by step of this process. Very well done. The ability to show and teach is rare in the world and particularly on UA-cam.
Thank you!
Ordered a retrofit kit today after vacuuming a half gallon of leaves out of my wife’s Miata. Great video (and new customer)!
It's surprising what can get sucked into that factory mesh!
Ok I'm now an official Flyin' Miata video geek!!! I watched the whole video and I don't own or plan to own a ND!!! You did another Great Job Kyle...Thank You. Best Always,
Thanks! We appreciate that and will pass on the compliment to Kyle! :)
Very helpful video, install took a while since I was doing it outside in the dark but clearly it wasn't too hard since a beginner like me could pull it off.
Around 3:30 -- The cowling does actually come off completely. First, run the wipers and shut off the car while they're "up" on the windshield, to get them out of the way (still touching the glass, so not "popped"). Then, disconnect both the water lines -- there is another hose coupler near the "seam" which isn't disconnected in the video. Finally, at the "seam" where the passenger-side piece connects to the rest of the cowling, there's a kind of clip mechanism under the plastic. Just push the passenger-side cowling toward the back of the car and it will unlatch, then pull it away from the other cowling to separate them. Then, pull the entire piece towards the front of the car to slide it off the windshield glass.
I tried to vacuum all the leaves out before putting the top mesh screen on, but I couldn't get them all. So, when I took out the OEM mesh screen, a couple fell down into the blower fan. As soon as I turned it on post-install, I heard a loud humming sound with the fan on, plus a "tapping" noise whenever I turned the fan on or off. Probably a leaf getting flung into the vents and falling back down. I dropped the blower motor out (3 difficult screws in the footwell, but you can keep the dash on) and cleaned it, and now everything seems good.
Totally worth it for that clean clean air! This is a must for a daily driver unless it's warm year-round where you live.
We appreciate hearing your feedback!
Perfectly done video… much appreciated. I had no idea it was that involved. 👍
Glad it was helpful!
You actually don't have to unplug anything to remove the old screen and put in the filter. There is enough room for the filter to slide all the way out and then toward the passenger door. Also the "door" for the filter only needs to be unhooked on the right side. Then it can be pushed to the left to unhook it from that side, similar to taking off a pair of glasses. I know this because I just did it yesterday.
The new filter works very well. Much better than the mouse poop laden screen that was in there before.
I am glad I read this comment before getting started.
A video please
Thanks for this guide! After watching it, it literally took me just 11 min to install mine. No more dust coming out of the vents! I have to say though, it does add a slight airflow restriction (naturally) so I'll probably run my blower 1 step higher than I normally would. Normally have it set fairly low anyway.
I think its a small price to pay to actually get filtered before reaching your face.
You made this look way too easy. I'm about to embark on this process now. Car/clip Gods be with me! 🙏
Good luck! Feel free to contact our support team if you have any questions during the installation.
Just had my ND in, I am shocked it is so lot of work to just replace a filter !
Kyle, your technical mechanical videos are outstanding. One incredibly helpful thing you always do is note which direction to pull/push when removing/reinstalling items. Very handy when trying not to break things and cause a whole other issue. I followed your front sway bar replacement video step-by-step and the install went as smooth as possible.
It seems like installing a cabin filter would also be a good time to retrofit the ACP/Android Auto kit - halfway there in terms of dismantling. Has FM ever considered offering these kits?
Thanks for the kind words, we'll be sure to pass them along to Kyle!
As far as the Car Play/Android kits, we've looked at them, but haven't had enough demand to seriously consider carrying them.
So the ND doesn't come from the factory with a cabin filter? Just those little mesh pieces? Odd. I'm glad there is a cabin filter replacement though.
Put simply this thing will never be changed in my car
I made one out of a Mann FP4926 cabin filter as it’s the exact dimensions in width and height but is 3x longer 😊
My A/C doesn’t blow worth crap, will this help? I know it did in my wife’s Odyssey, but it was a typical ACF.
You know I learned something when you installed the cabin filter on the passenger side. There is room for Mazda to design and install a small glove compartment on the passenger side. You could easily design a small pocket the length of the panel you removed.
Maybe just maybe!
It looks like having the FM hood lifters helps make the job easier, :-) BTW, this is the color of my ND.
The hydraulic hood lifts make everything easier! :D
Did you guys run a comparison before applying filter and after, in regards to seeing if any loss of air power happened from the vents?
We tested it to ensure there was no dramatic power loss or any odd behaviors, but it was just a subjective test, with no measurements we can pass along.
Thanks engineers! Would have sold more filters in you could have access.
You guys should make, or stock, a seat bracket. I've been looking at the paco motorsports seat mount. Wondering what FM thinks.
Paco rails are solid. First mod i did to my ND
Thamk you for prepping this awesome video! Curious, why did the a pillar trim need to be removed?
You'll need to remove the sill trim along with the kick panel to access a 10mm bolt that holds the dash trim on. It's around the 7 min mark on the video or point 8 in the written instructions.
s3.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/instructions.flyinmiata/interior_21/ND_cabin_air_filter_M21-30040.pdf
Bonne idée pour les personnes allergiques au pollen !
The word insanity comes to mind for the design of the ND Cabin Filter.
I change the CFs annually on my other cars but my '16 ND will not get this treatment.
Greeting Kyle
It’s great video 👌
Could you please add the link of filter elements to order them?
Thanks 🙏
www.flyinmiata.com/default/nd-cabin-air-filter.html
Wow!... Not an easy job as on the latest japanese cars. I am surprised, to say the least...
Thank you!
It's a little work, but sometimes you need the roof up, and if so, why not have cleaner air ;)
On the Mazda2 with a very similar interior but having a glovebox, you just pull that out and have easy access to the (proper) cabin filter.
Quick question: how much the replacement filter will cost if I order the kit now. Down the line I need to replace the filter in an year or so. Will it be very expensive or like $10-15
Pricing and availability for all our products should be on our website. Hope that helps!
www.flyinmiata.com/default/nd-cabin-air-filter.html
Damn… I only want to replace a filter, yet need to take so much apart to gain access 😳
maybe a dumb question, but does the NC generation have cabin air filters?
The NC does not have a factory air filter that we are aware of.
Waiting for my new ND to arrive in Australia in June 2022 and interested in the paper replacement cab filter element as they would do a better job in cleaning up the incoming air. I own Brisbane Air Cleaner Services here in Australia and understand filtration. I would like to replace mine as the OEM filter wouldn't remove air borne dust and pollen. Finally the question would I be right to presume the RHD dashboard be mirror reversed to the LHD models? Hopefully they are and the paper element mayyyy fit.
This filter is a Japanese part, so we would assume that it would fit RHD cars without issues, however, we've never tested or taken apart a RHD ND, so there may be a few small unforeseen differences.
@@FlyinMiataVideo Thanks for that info. The main reason for my inquiry is for my own health care. I suffer from emphyysema (COPD) so the cleaner the air I breathe the better. Same applies to everyone. I run Air Purifiers at home and work. If you could give me some info on the manufacturer I can track them down and market them here in Australia to Mx5 owners through our business as we wholesale and retail all types of air elements. I certainly not interested in making dollars out of them but to help other old farts like me with breathing problems. I'm 75 and have owned a 2010 NC for 7 years which I just recently sold and awaiting my new hardtop ND. I also currently own and ride regularly a motor bike and 2 maxi scooters. As a old mechanic I certainly appreciate your videos even if I now most of the fixes. Ross
What a PITA!
Agreed! Let us know if you have any questions that aren't answered in the video. :)
Would it be possible to list the names of tools needed (in text) kfor this repair for easier DIY install? Thank you!
10 mm socket
8 mm socket
Ratchet
Prying instruments (anything specific?)
Hose pick
Angled Pliers
Is this the same for 124 spider? Also for right hand drive cars will is still be on the right? Thanks
This filter is sourced from Japan, so should work fine on RHD cars. We have not tested this on the Fiat, but if you have the same space the Miata has (see the video for specifics), it would probably work. Sorry we aren't more help with that one!
Great video, thanks! However I'm having trouble locating a filter here in California. I called two Mazda dealers and they both said "Miata's don't have cabin filters." Don't get it.
The ND Miatas did not come with these filters from the factory, even tho they have a spot dedicated for one. These are an aftermarket kit from Japan that adds a modern air filter to the car and a better screen to keep out dirt and debris under hood.
Is it located on the opposite side on right hand drive vehicles?
Being in the US, we've never tested this on a RHD ND in person, so can't confirm that difference. Sorry
Nice video, but I wonder. Considering there was only a mesh under the dashboard, do we really need a cabin filter there?
With the new kit mesh comes at the top under the hood, isn't that actually enough, also considering it's a convertible?
@ajuric4606 Having a filter here is not necessary (Mazda didn't include one here after all), but not everyone drives with the top down every drive. For those who have pollen/allergen sensitivities, this is a great solution.
@@FlyinMiataVideo Can I stop the roof mid opening to clean the drain pipes if I have a controller installed?
I've been driving Miatas exclusively since '91 and I am a big fan of FM. However, having a cabin air filter in a convertible is a bit like having a screen door on a submarine.
Some people have allergies or other concerns that mean they need the option of sealing the cabin as much as possible sometimes, and having actual filtered air isn't a bad thing. We don't judge.
Is there a mesh product for the NC 2012?
Not that we carry, but it appears a few alternatives can be found online. We don't have experience with any and can't provide a solid recommendation.
Where's the outside intake on the Miata I'm trying to get the mildew smell out when running my AC with Lysol, can someone help me?
Depends on the year, but usually at the base of the windshield.
2022 I don't see it there
Glad they made it so easy.... Lmao, what a pita. 😅
There are some steps to follow😁
is it the same for RHD model? im getting a japanese model 1.5 soon. Im assuming the process is the same but just flip the side around lol
Our RHD experience is very limited - we assume it's as you stated, but have never tested for ourselves.
İf i use only internal circulation mode on a/c do i need cabin filter. İ dont want to inhale that dirty screens air
We're not real sure on this one since we haven't had to dig into the HVAC box anymore than this filter.
Is this the same procedure for a Fiat Spider 124?
Unfortunately, we have never compared this side by side with the Fiat filter, so we cannot confirm it will work. Sorry.
Great instructional video! But, why would Miata make this so difficult! Just put the filter behind the glove box like other vehicles, including Mazda models.
The ND series (I own one) Miata does not have a glove box. It has a cubby that sits behind the passenger seat.
Does this work for a 2015 RHD ND?
We can't be positive since we've never seen one to test, but knowing the filter is a Japanese product, we suspect that it should fit all NDs.
I love the miata. But some maintenance tasks are just a pain in the ar***
Yes, indeed!
Piece of screen "cut to fit" should keep the detritus out of the air box.
Wait isn’t the convertible top the air filter.
You can't have the top down all the time ;)
Is this procedure also correct for the NB Miata?
Sorry, no. All the other gens don't have an option for a cabin filter that we've found.
Thank you. Is there a screen without a filter on the NB? How to I check for a mouse nest?
Great video but what a ridiculous procedure. Did nobody at Mazda or Fiat do a DFM (Design for Manufacture) assessment? Thank you for showing us what is involved!
It's not for everyone but, here's the info if you're going to do it. 😁
OMG! I have changed a lot of cabin filters before but nothing like this! Guess that's what happens when manufacturer decides to omit the glove box. Oh, but the car is lightweight!
A traditional glovebox would allow better access to the filter.
How about for a NA Miata is it in the same place 🤔😊
NA is a completely different beast! If memory serves it's only a foam piece near the heater core, so it's a bear to reach.
@@FlyinMiataVideo ok thank you for for responding to my question 🙏🏽🤙🏽😊
Someone on Etsy sell a 3d printed one for the NA. Everything is under the hood. Note this is a mod not oem.
I might do the mesh in the engine bay to keep rodent out but definitely not installing the one in the car. It's a convertible. Once the top is down, it's useless to filter the inside air 😂
Fair point, but I'm guessing most folks will travel through inclement weather at some point and need to put the top up. Or, be in traffic huffing fumes from other vehicles.
Thank you for the video. I have just changed mine. I really feel fresh. Worth it to take some times to replace it. By the way, I found one thing weird. When AC is on at storngest power and re-circuluation is on, the fan sounds louder than before. Does anyone have same issue with me?
The fan issue is not something we've heard. Feel free to send us a video of what you're experiencing to support@flyinmiata.com and we can try to help troubleshoot.
@@FlyinMiataVideo thank you for the reply. Will send you a video shorty. Thank you.
I just send a video. I think the noise comes from air restriction. I might inappropriately installed it. I will try re install the filter tomorrow and keep you posted.
@@Unspicyspicymayo We'll take a look at the video and get back to you via email!
@@FlyinMiataVideofound the cause of the noise and fixed it. It was just some leaves fallen in to the blow motor when I pulled out original filter (There were a lot of leaves on the original filter and few might dropped). All good now and I am so happy with this new filter. Highly recommended.
Why don't you put the real cabin filter where you put the metal grill?
It would degrade much much faster that close to moisture and the outside elements. The big screen is the first line of defense from larger debris, but the filter needs to be in the cabin network of pipes inside the car to ensure that all the air is filtered, even when the re-circulating option is on.
@@FlyinMiataVideo you are right, If I lived in USA I would have bought your kit, unfortunately I had to make a home made filter because here in Italy I don't have alternatives a part your kit shipped at I don't know maybe 100€. Thank you for the culture video!
@@FlyinMiataVideo for now I have put a sponge filter dry on the inlet, if I will have problems I'll try to make a true paper filter with the body of the filter you change (the one in metal mesh) using the filter for another car.
@@Moriggia Etsy sells them too !
Does NB has Cabin filter ?
Nope, just a piece of foam on the flap that changes the cabin air to recirculation and back.
@@shadowkeeper0 Thanks!
No, but someone on Etsy made one for Na/Nb
One guestion, is it possible to use vacuum cleaner from outside - air inlet side, to remove aby impurities from inner mesh?
can you do a video for the NA Miata cabin filter
While we can't guarantee each video request will be fulfilled, we keep a running list of every suggestion, and your voice has been heard!
Why install a cupé filter in a convertible???
Having some air filtration is nice; the convertible top (or roof panel) is not always down!
Please restock the msm intake kit 😭
We're trying! In the case of almost every product that's out of stock, we've got POs with the various suppliers. We don't like being out of stock any more than you do, but some of the manufacturers are really struggling right now.
@@FlyinMiataVideo Thanks for the response! I completely understand, I’m in sales and our products are consistently 4 to 8 months out. I look forward to you guys getting it. Love your products, you guys rock!
Well, I guess my wife's cabin air filter is never getting replaced.....
makes two of us😂
If it had a glove box it would be easy like other brands.
Just by looking at mine from down below; There’s no room for one. It’s taken up by HVAC equipment. 😂
that might explain why my air vents are filthy with dust. There really is no filter at all to start with.
I've been always wondering, do NCs have cabin air filters?
The NC does not have a factory air filter that we are aware of.
This is insane? Why so difficult
It's honestly not that bad, just a lot of little things that need to be removed to access the filter slot.
@@FlyinMiataVideo It is compared to 95% of other cars that have glove boxes.
Most of the time my windows are open or the top is down so having a cabin air filter is probably not necessary for me. It is good to know of another place to check for debris when unclogging the roof drain tubes.
@@duckylucky6505 What's a glove box?
@@duckylucky6505 Yeah right. No other car requires you to remove interior trim pieces + electrical connectors.
Uhh.....yeah I don't think so....how often would it even be "needed"? Almost rather keep an industrial mask handy If I planned to ever drive through hazardous dust clouds and hey who even buys a soft top roadster that needs filtered air?? Maybe instead buy a Toyota 86/Subaru BRZ
nice something better than that metal screen
didn't realize a car had to go through a colonoscopy to change its cabin filter. Not looking forward to that.
I don’t drive my ND very much with the top up. Lots of fresh air coming into the cabin. Not……changing…..this……filter….ever
Thanks for watching!
A 24 hour prep for colonoscopy is easier than replacing this.
I think I'll take the cabin filter replacement :)
@@FlyinMiataVideo LOL yes me too :) that’s great !!!!
The point is that I don’t like the idea of removing so many parts
I think that's why Mazda didn't suggest this in the operator's manual.
I will sell my miata and buy one with a new filter, that's easier🤦♂️
That’s not what I call great Japanese engineering. Change the front sway bar and the filter on the same day and you’re done with a serious breakdown.
Yeah, it's best to split those activities up some. Maybe....a nice long ride to remind you how much you still like the car.
My dealership doesn't want to replace the filter and keeps telling me it doesn't have a cabin air filter, which i know is wrong
In the US, the NDs don't have an air filter from the factory, just a metal screen. There seems to be a spot for one, which is where this kit installs. Feel free to give us a call if you have any questions!