I moved to Atlanta from the West coast and can tell you these organizations are dangerous. They keep fast riders in novice group without the chance to bump. N2 is the worst about it. I did one trackday and asked to be bumped, but all I got was brought into pit lane and told I was passing too close or too far into the braking zone. That, or I was followed into the pit area and given the worst advice. They didn’t know I’ve been a coach and said the dumbest $#!+. Nobody wanted to bump me. Last weekend I did Roebling. They asked in the beginning whether anyone had been in a faster group before and to talk with him after the meeting. He walked off after the meeting talking to other people. I got pulled into the pit and was told I “had pace” ,but the CR wasn’t going to bump me because I was passing in the corners, which I wasn’t doing. I was followed into the pits and two coaches came up to me and told me I had pace, but wasn’t leaning off the bike enough. I take right hand corners on the street faster than the novices we’re going into turn one. I’m old, fat, and have been riding track for 16 years. I’d look and feel like an @$$ leaning off the bike with 10 degree lean angle. STILL not bumped. Later, I told them not to bother. There were three sessions left and I knew it was going to clear up with everyone stopping with a couple sessions left. That coach you’re following whose passing novices in the corners is dangerous also. Those riders could easily have gotten shaken up, stiffened up and found themselves in your path. Frickin’ East coast.
umm, It must be you buddy. I've done trackdays with 3 east coast organazations, I was in novice for just the morning sessions for my very first trackday almost 20yrs ago,I've been in I group ever since, my pace shows I should be in advanced and the CR from N2 said I should be in A group but I'm only riding at the track twice a year and sometimes I'm a little rusty so I preferred to stay in I.
Really, I'm rather surprised and relieved to hear this. I just got bumped to intermediate and I'm thinkin shit, I hope I don't get left in the dust. But in novice, I was riding group 1 and I'm easily outpacing most people, even some instructors if they're chillin so maybe I'll be ok? xD we'll see this sunday!
I had similar experience in Spain - got moved down to novice after first session - even tho I had passed several other riders. Couldn't get out of novice as they have a 'no overtake zone' which meant every lap I caught a slow rider, lap time wrecked, FOR THREE DAYS!!! Not happy!
I could have kept my eyes closed and told you just by the shifting and sound of those bikes, they're not novice. Nice outside passes though. Kept your distance from other riders, did your best. Well done. Entertaining to watch as I'm novice. Lol
The person in front in the orange vest was a coach, and I'm recording. At this point last year I was solid low a pace top intermediate pace. Even though I was in novice it still was fun af.
@2.17 WTF!!! I have never seen two -up on a bike trackdays! It ain't right, it's dumb! I bet a year on you are flying👍🏻 Key is trail braking like a good'n letting you carry much more speed into the turns, not forgetting the many other things you got to be doing at the same time, until it becomes so natural to you.👍🏻
It was overbooked and sold out, im guessing they didn't have enough room to move me to INT that day, but I did get to ride INT the next two days... plus I'm HEAVILY speculating that it was interesting for them to watch the skill level difference. Plus it was fun AF to ride with novice so I was cool with it.
I moved to Atlanta from the West coast and can tell you these organizations are dangerous. They keep fast riders in novice group without the chance to bump. N2 is the worst about it. I did one trackday and asked to be bumped, but all I got was brought into pit lane and told I was passing too close or too far into the braking zone. That, or I was followed into the pit area and given the worst advice. They didn’t know I’ve been a coach and said the dumbest $#!+. Nobody wanted to bump me. Last weekend I did Roebling. They asked in the beginning whether anyone had been in a faster group before and to talk with him after the meeting. He walked off after the meeting talking to other people. I got pulled into the pit and was told I “had pace” ,but the CR wasn’t going to bump me because I was passing in the corners, which I wasn’t doing. I was followed into the pits and two coaches came up to me and told me I had pace, but wasn’t leaning off the bike enough. I take right hand corners on the street faster than the novices we’re going into turn one. I’m old, fat, and have been riding track for 16 years. I’d look and feel like an @$$ leaning off the bike with 10 degree lean angle. STILL not bumped. Later, I told them not to bother. There were three sessions left and I knew it was going to clear up with everyone stopping with a couple sessions left. That coach you’re following whose passing novices in the corners is dangerous also. Those riders could easily have gotten shaken up, stiffened up and found themselves in your path. Frickin’ East coast.
umm, It must be you buddy. I've done trackdays with 3 east coast organazations, I was in novice for just the morning sessions for my very first trackday almost 20yrs ago,I've been in I group ever since, my pace shows I should be in advanced and the CR from N2 said I should be in A group but I'm only riding at the track twice a year and sometimes I'm a little rusty so I preferred to stay in I.
Most of the time at STT events the fastest novice group is easily faster than most of the mid-pack intermediate group. Nice video with great sound!
Really, I'm rather surprised and relieved to hear this. I just got bumped to intermediate and I'm thinkin shit, I hope I don't get left in the dust. But in novice, I was riding group 1 and I'm easily outpacing most people, even some instructors if they're chillin so maybe I'll be ok? xD we'll see this sunday!
I had similar experience in Spain - got moved down to novice after first session - even tho I had passed several other riders. Couldn't get out of novice as they have a 'no overtake zone' which meant every lap I caught a slow rider, lap time wrecked, FOR THREE DAYS!!! Not happy!
I could have kept my eyes closed and told you just by the shifting and sound of those bikes, they're not novice. Nice outside passes though. Kept your distance from other riders, did your best. Well done. Entertaining to watch as I'm novice. Lol
The person in front in the orange vest was a coach, and I'm recording. At this point last year I was solid low a pace top intermediate pace. Even though I was in novice it still was fun af.
@2.17 WTF!!! I have never seen two -up on a bike trackdays! It ain't right, it's dumb! I bet a year on you are flying👍🏻 Key is trail braking like a good'n letting you carry much more speed into the turns, not forgetting the many other things you got to be doing at the same time, until it becomes so natural to you.👍🏻
my god and these ppl drive slicks/semi sicks :o
Getting held up,a nd still running low 1:40's... Advanced pace for sure.
Probably because your passenger fell off
That was definitely not a novice pace!!! That was stupid not to bump you.
Not sure why they kept you in novice after that ride. I would have given you a bump no problem.
It was overbooked and sold out, im guessing they didn't have enough room to move me to INT that day, but I did get to ride INT the next two days... plus I'm HEAVILY speculating that it was interesting for them to watch the skill level difference. Plus it was fun AF to ride with novice so I was cool with it.
What in the actual mess is this.... speed differential is wayyyyy to high. As other said... you shouldn't be in novice.