This is a cool idea putting the electric motor in a paragliding harness I thought of this myself and happy to see it being done. By putting the electric motor in a paraglding harness you will have the best handling and weight shift capabilities for flying. Make a version that can fly for 1 to 2 hours and I will buy one for sure :) Electric is the future! Love It!
Fly High Paramotors Battery packs nowadays are good for 10 minutes of 15 kW Power, 20 kg weight of motor+battery. That 'll take a few years to get the power of the fuel motors
My thought exactly but even if I can only get a 15 minute climb (which is what I’d expect) I could fly from my property and get flat land thermals right here from home.
The problems with batteries and elec motor are weight, capacity and fire. Whats actually more clean is debatable. Big batteries and the like are worse for waste and often to produce. Some people have been duped into thinking complexity and "progress" are always such. The problem with gas engine is noise. Silence is golden but electric is still more supplemental to get you to thermal. Gas isn't going anywhere tomorrow.
Beautiful design. Can easily be transported on a motorcycle/bicycle or even backpacking. If I might suggest an upgrade... I would create a kill switch in the advent that the throttle gets stuck. The loss of power should activate a breaking system or at least a centrifugal clutch to stop the rotors. This can be used if the lines are about to get into the propeller or just of you need to crash-land and don't want the throttle accidentally pressed. Ps any plans on marketing the system - I would definitely consider buying this. 👌🏼💪🏼💙
I really like this design, lighter, prop block from body is eliminated, looks like it's way more efficient. Once thermalling it's not in the way and probably is way better for weight shift
Fascinating concept... but if this was posted almost 5 years ago... and it doesn’t seem to have caught on much then I wonder why. The benefits on the description seem amazing, so where are the downsides? What are they not saying?
Its a rather unsafe design... But it does solve a lot of problem if you want to just get up there to catch thermals with little detrimental effects for thermalling X- country
Imo its too unsafe with having no cage... also a shaft that long unsupported will have serious bending and twisting forces on it that I can see might lead to shaft failures at the flange... also... what about if you fall on your behind on a failed launch? At very least that shaft is likely to snap/shatter (if it is carbon fibre?).. and if still spinning at that moment could break bones and/or slice you wide open... or even the possibility of a prop blade hit the back of your head, potentially fatally. Not enough known about the design, materials used and with not being fluent in German.. Just too many questionable factors in that design to make people want to risk it.
Good idea for paraglider pilots looking to reach the thermals above, with no hills or mountains to launch from. I like it! How long can it run full throttle???
For electric paramotor and paraglider , electric plane and mega drone, you can buy motors from our freerchobby. We have 15kw 12090, 25kw 120100, 35kw 15470 and 50kw 154120.
Az elektromos meghajtás által kifejlesztett Geiger / Eck által előállított Flytec, abszolút high-tech termék. Ez még a világ vezető saját kategóriájában 10 és 15 kW. A motor teljesítménye kb. 1 kW-ként 0,33 kg tömegű, ér el a teljesítménysűrűség amely tekinthető felülmúlhatatlan worldwide.The csúcsteljesítményt az elektromos HPD 10 hajtásrendszer nagyjából megfelel a 50-szeres teljesítményt egy közös e-bike motor! HPD 10/HPD 13,5 rendelkezik az energia átalakítás hatásfoka kb. 94%. Szintén elektromos motorok, ez egy abszolút felső jel (bizonyos e-bike motor rendelkezik egy energia átalakítás hatásfoka csak mintegy 84%, az értéke közös gázmotorok csupán 5%). HPD meghajtók által Flytec, valamint az összes összetevői kifejezetten könnyű, személyzettel ellátott repülőgépek így rendelkezik az összes szükséges jellemzőket az ilyen speciális alkalmazási területekre. finsterwalder-charly.de/en/scott-e.html
just requires consistent and competent launch technique, if performance is an issue, if you don't care about either competent launch technique, or flight performance, attaching a cage and a fixed prop is probably off the shelf tech,
Sollte der Akku anfangen zu brennen ist es dann möglich den Akku z.b. auszuklinken? Oder ist der Akku fest verbaut so das der Pilot in der Luft verbrennt?
+Asad I try: The phenomenon is only in the film (TV, cinema) and has to do with the frames per second at Videos. (usually 24 -60 frames per second). When for example a wheel rotates at a certain speed, shows the next frame, the spokes in a position which is back from the previous one piece, the wheel appears to rotate slowly backwards. In reality, you don't see the same spoke moving backwards, almost at the same spot the next spoke, pure coincidence. By the same effect wheels sometimes seem to stand still in the drive.
At very low RPM a perturbation would cause it to go off-center and create an enormous vibration. But at higher RPM it's going to rotate about the center of gravity, so it will automatically avoid vibration as long as the prop is reasonably well balanced.
Ikaro, ganz herzlichen Dank. Du meinst Robert Kleinhans, richtig? Wenn ja, er hat den Film natürlich auch schon gesehen. Trotzdem Danke für Tipp. Diese Sony macht schon phantastische Aufnahmen und die Benutzung eines ext. Micros hat sich sehr gelohnt, ohne das hätte man kaum etwas verstanden (wegen Wind). Aber da ich ja eine kleine Neigung zum Perfektionismus habe, werde ich zukünftig versuchen, die Cam in der Belichtung manuel zu steuern, da die Automatik auf unterschiedliche Lichtverhältnisse empfindlich reagiert. Bei spontanen Aufnahmen mit unterschiedlichen Lichtverhältnissen aber nicht immer machbar.
How about learning German? I haven't met a German yet who doesn't speak English. The web reference provides a site that's written in both English and German. How lazy can you get?
+Paragliding Podlasie (Fly-Video) In the description of the Vid you will find the Email of Robert Kleinhans from Charly Finsterwalder company. Best regards.
This is a cool idea putting the electric motor in a paragliding harness I thought of this myself and happy to see it being done. By putting the electric motor in a paraglding harness you will have the best handling and weight shift capabilities for flying. Make a version that can fly for 1 to 2 hours and I will buy one for sure :) Electric is the future! Love It!
Fly High Paramotors Battery packs nowadays are good for 10 minutes of 15 kW Power, 20 kg weight of motor+battery. That 'll take a few years to get the power of the fuel motors
My thought exactly but even if I can only get a 15 minute climb (which is what I’d expect) I could fly from my property and get flat land thermals right here from home.
OpenPPG has done it.
Прошло 8 лет, но пока ни кто лучшей конструкции не предложил! Очень грамотное инженерное решение!
Amazing! So compact. I want one.
Spinning prop blades next to thin lines.. great!
And his head an arms etc...
Absolut Killing great !
exactly what i thought . LOL
Excellent! clean and silent-the end for combustion engines in paragliding is close!
Malo morgen.
The problems with batteries and elec motor are weight, capacity and fire.
Whats actually more clean is debatable. Big batteries and the like are worse for waste and often to produce.
Some people have been duped into thinking complexity and "progress" are always such.
The problem with gas engine is noise. Silence is golden but electric is still more supplemental to get you to thermal.
Gas isn't going anywhere tomorrow.
Standing really close to a prop that could start instantly if it were hit inadvertently.
Beautiful design. Can easily be transported on a motorcycle/bicycle or even backpacking.
If I might suggest an upgrade...
I would create a kill switch in the advent that the throttle gets stuck. The loss of power should activate a breaking system or at least a centrifugal clutch to stop the rotors. This can be used if the lines are about to get into the propeller or just of you need to crash-land and don't want the throttle accidentally pressed.
Ps any plans on marketing the system - I would definitely consider buying this.
👌🏼💪🏼💙
Jeezus! Look at the lift. Amazing guys!
I really like this design, lighter, prop block from body is eliminated, looks like it's way more efficient. Once thermalling it's not in the way and probably is way better for weight shift
Often wondered why they don't have counter rotating props to counter torque. These little helicopters utilize this technology to counter torque.
Michael Kennedy that's not good for the aerodynamic, and what would be the advantage?
Absolutely
It's amazing 👏
Fascinating concept... but if this was posted almost 5 years ago... and it doesn’t seem to have caught on much then I wonder why. The benefits on the description seem amazing, so where are the downsides?
What are they not saying?
It will Slice n dice you better than an electric mandolin!!
Its a rather unsafe design... But it does solve a lot of problem if you want to just get up there to catch thermals with little detrimental effects for thermalling X-
country
the price ;)
Imo its too unsafe with having no cage... also a shaft that long unsupported will have serious bending and twisting forces on it that I can see might lead to shaft failures at the flange... also... what about if you fall on your behind on a failed launch? At very least that shaft is likely to snap/shatter (if it is carbon fibre?).. and if still spinning at that moment could break bones and/or slice you wide open... or even the possibility of a prop blade hit the back of your head, potentially fatally.
Not enough known about the design, materials used and with not being fluent in German.. Just too many questionable factors in that design to make people want to risk it.
very poor engineering, increased distance from prop messes with stability and thrust dynamics
Good idea for paraglider pilots looking to reach the thermals above, with no hills or mountains to launch from. I like it! How long can it run full throttle???
This is what I want, still have the advantages of soaring like a regular paraglider with out the big cage being a air brake
No sort of cage? That's a waiting accident.
Warren Kral everything plastic I like it.cage is burden
He said that it gave bettter performamce
Yep, you get a line caught in the propeller and that's it, game over.
@@PatrickOoy if a line is loose enough to get in the prop you're fucked anyways.
Excellent. Danke Schön.
I want one now! Where can I buy one new or used I don't care?
Hi Stian, write to Robert Kleinhans from Charly robert@nova-wings.com Best regards - Gunter
Thanks, I will. Cheers
Awesome!!!!🤙🏼
Excellent. How to Contact for info?adress,tel.? Danke..
So my bones have become Hollow now I Can Fly Like a Bird
Its really too bad the flytec motor is no longer in production..... this would be awesome
For electric paramotor and paraglider , electric plane and mega drone, you can buy motors from our freerchobby. We have 15kw 12090, 25kw 120100, 35kw 15470 and 50kw 154120.
Az elektromos meghajtás által kifejlesztett Geiger / Eck által előállított Flytec, abszolút high-tech termék. Ez még a világ vezető saját kategóriájában 10 és 15 kW. A motor teljesítménye kb. 1 kW-ként 0,33 kg tömegű, ér el a teljesítménysűrűség amely tekinthető felülmúlhatatlan worldwide.The csúcsteljesítményt az elektromos HPD 10 hajtásrendszer nagyjából megfelel a 50-szeres teljesítményt egy közös e-bike motor! HPD 10/HPD 13,5 rendelkezik az energia átalakítás hatásfoka kb. 94%. Szintén elektromos motorok, ez egy abszolút felső jel (bizonyos e-bike motor rendelkezik egy energia átalakítás hatásfoka csak mintegy 84%, az értéke közös gázmotorok csupán 5%). HPD meghajtók által Flytec, valamint az összes összetevői kifejezetten könnyű, személyzettel ellátott repülőgépek így rendelkezik az összes szükséges jellemzőket az ilyen speciális alkalmazási területekre.
finsterwalder-charly.de/en/scott-e.html
Karlson vom Dach!
Sorry I'm an under-educated American...only speak english, can someone tell me if he said it has an provisions for energy recovery "regen"?
There will be no regeneration with a folding prop. As soon as you throttle down to lose altitude the prop will fold.
No possible with a folding prop. In any case using regen would tilt the canopy forward causing it to sink quite rapidly.
don´t see why you´d want regen in paragliding
ja ewig schade das da nix mehr vorwärts geht. Denke das hätte schon eine Chance verdient.
Nice and compact motor though
Why are you so confident that this does not require a cage to protect the user and lines from being struck by the open props???
Distance looks like it protects arms. The prop is way back. Lines are at risk
Wisst ihr was doof ist? Ich hab lange Haare -.-
some propeller protection please !!!! an accident is due to happen
Cara Bopi that's too bad for aerodynamic
just requires consistent and competent launch technique, if performance is an issue, if you don't care about either competent launch technique, or flight performance, attaching a cage and a fixed prop is probably off the shelf tech,
Can’t understand a fucking thing he said.
Looks very dangerous without a cage
Sollte der Akku anfangen zu brennen ist es dann möglich den Akku z.b. auszuklinken? Oder ist der Akku fest verbaut so das der Pilot in der Luft verbrennt?
Denke, dass man den nicht ausklinken konnte.
can someone explain why the blade looks like its moving slowly at 5:20? ..i know that obviously its not, but can somone offer an explanation? thanks
+Asad I try: The phenomenon is only in the film (TV, cinema) and has to do with the frames per second at Videos. (usually 24 -60 frames per second). When for example a wheel rotates at a certain speed, shows the next frame, the spokes in a position which is back from the previous one piece, the wheel appears to rotate slowly backwards. In reality, you don't see the same spoke moving backwards, almost at the same spot the next spoke, pure coincidence. By the same effect wheels sometimes seem to stand still in the drive.
Area28 by Gunter Kiphard thank you! knew it was something like that, it all makes sense now
+Asad Thank you Asad, you are welcome.
He is landing my dear,he isnt in need to use any energy it turns by the air through landing
aliasing
Hey Klaus! The world also speaks English.. subs please! Looks Good!
First time ever seen!
Yes Granpa Holy Moly ?
No Cage! Safe as !!!!!
+izzzzzz6 + Sketchy welding at 7:15 :D
That's all dangerous!
it is amazing a shaft that long does not get a horrible harmonic...
At very low RPM a perturbation would cause it to go off-center and create an enormous vibration. But at higher RPM it's going to rotate about the center of gravity, so it will automatically avoid vibration as long as the prop is reasonably well balanced.
That’s what she said
Must admit I don’t get any horrible harmonics with my long shaft......".....
@@Holidayideas4u😂
9 years ago!!
Just standing there he is so majestic, like half ninja turtle, half helicopter.
Super Beitrag mal wieder ! Solltest Du an Robert schicken !
Ikaro, ganz herzlichen Dank. Du meinst Robert Kleinhans, richtig? Wenn ja, er hat den Film natürlich auch schon gesehen. Trotzdem Danke für Tipp.
Diese Sony macht schon phantastische Aufnahmen und die Benutzung eines ext. Micros hat sich sehr gelohnt, ohne das hätte man kaum etwas verstanden (wegen Wind). Aber da ich ja eine kleine Neigung zum Perfektionismus habe, werde ich zukünftig versuchen, die Cam in der Belichtung manuel zu steuern, da die Automatik auf unterschiedliche Lichtverhältnisse empfindlich reagiert. Bei spontanen Aufnahmen mit unterschiedlichen Lichtverhältnissen aber nicht immer machbar.
Brilliant!
Nice .
Interesting video. English title and German commentary... unfortunate.
It will be horrible death, if the battery catching on fire. Battery quick release required.
Dürfen, muss, Zulassung, Coach, DBs, tja, es gibt Leute die fliegen mit einem 2 Takt vom Schrott und genießen die Freiheit.
Watching that with nothing between the prop and lines was scary.
Beam me up
E mail? Danke.
No cage I love ❤️ it
60Ah at what voltage?
Flight time?
Cost?
Battery Type?
Max battery cycles?
More english...
How about learning German? I haven't met a German yet who doesn't speak English. The web reference provides a site that's written in both English and German. How lazy can you get?
@@TryThinkingAboutIt maybe the german doesnt want you to understand.....lol
was kostet der motor ?
Hallo, bitte an Robert Kleinhans Charly wegen aktuellen Preise wenden - danke.
No, thanks..i prefer gasoline engine..
How's the micro Jet Engine development coming along?
ماه عسل
nofuckin way petro for ever i need to smell it
КАРЛСОООН!!!!!
kotorii jivet na youtube
Interessante, mas sem proteção das hélices se torna muito perigoso.
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How long is the flight time?
Good question ?
Опасная игрушка.
What about FOD and the lines?
How long can that fly?
Hauptsache der Beinstrecker ist montiert. Im Ausland das Erkennungsmerkmal Nummer 1 des deutschen Piloten.
Put prize so people will buy
Wow. That is compact.
Charly Products
Nice! A bit worrid with the prop having no cage. A sure disaster during turbulence of collapse
How much height can you gain on a full battery load?
For questions more informations here: finsterwalder-charly.de/de/12-produkte/e-antrieb/76-scott-e.html
en que pais consigo ese motor??
En Alemania. La empresa se llama "Finsterwalder & Charly". Google "Scott-E"
Nice
Baljeet Singh a
Where to buy?! :O.
+Paragliding Podlasie (Fly-Video) In the description of the Vid you will find the Email of Robert Kleinhans from Charly Finsterwalder company. Best regards.
Brother you have to put the prize I belive you can sell a lot
Would it work without the strings you just hold the edges of the glider would you take off the same way
cool, wie teuer ist das Gerät?
You’re gonna chop your arm off mate
Was kostet der Motor ..
Großartig!
Merci, Stefan.
Wie viel minuten flug zeit....bitte...????????
For questions more informations here: finsterwalder-charly.de/de/12-produkte/e-antrieb/76-scott-e.html
Why such a long prop shaft?
I can think of a couple of reasons, the only legit one being - Better air flow.
Schullllllllltz!!
how mush does this cost ?
For questions more informations here: finsterwalder-charly.de/de/12-produkte/e-antrieb/76-scott-e.html
Нищета, голытьба
❤
Where can I get a system like that from or the items to make the system
Paul Stefanko how much would you pay?
warum taucht nirgendwo der Preis auf? Oder hab ich was übersehen? Was kostet das Teil?
Fragen beantwortet Euch gerne robert@nova-wings.com
Und dann fängt die buchse am rücken an zu brennen xD
Карлсон)))
Gibt's das auch in deutsch ?
Ähm...was sprechen die denn da für eine Sprache?
No subtitles ? I would have liked to hear what they were saying. Very, very unusual !
Wie lange dauert es fliegen?
Hi, I will contact Robert and he will tell you/post it.
Please do so in writing to the technical parameters of the description.Thank you,and Good wind. :)
4:50
Long precarious funny looking shaft, to ignore the need for cage. not good at all.
I prefer scuba diving, there is less equipment to wear. :)
Yes, true but it doesn't matter how fast you can run in flippers you still can't fly.... until you trip!