I have put a couple of video`s for this glider on my volantex flying group youtube channel, yes its a truly great new Phoenix but does have some negative points, the kit like i bought did not ship with a plywood lipo tray, lucky i still had the one from my original P1600 one flight wonder, also i had a little tumble with this new P1600 S and the "tough" fuselage cracked in 2 spots around a wing seat, and worth pointing out the PNP should NOT be flown on 3s with stock prop....the 1400kv motor will melt. Andrew as always, thanks for great flying and really good video`s
Absolutely brilliant once again Andrew! There is a fairly strong wind blowing here in Tassie at the moment so I haven't been flying my glider but after watching this video I now realise that I should make the most of the wind ! It looks far more exciting than a light breeze! You are an inspiration once again so thankyou! Cheers
Having got a volantex ranger 600 and put a couple of flights on it, I got myself this Phoenix S. Andrew makes this look very easy to fly, but flying as a beginner is really difficult. Im putting my lipos into storage mode and getting some more flights in on the ranger 600 before I bring the phoenix back out this summer. Thank you for your videos Andrew!!
From one Aussie to another, I must admit Andrew your channel is one of the easiest channels to watch. maybe its just the no BS approach in you delivery. Keep up the great content, also keen to see more on that Reptile Dragon, thinking that will be a good replacement for my tired AR900. Cheers
I'm about ready to give my Dragon a LOS test flight and will be installing an F405 later. Been posting progress on an RCG thread started by Jake Bullit. A few other guys have built and flown them and several are waiting for theirs to arrive. Apparently they were back-ordered not long after Andrew's video.
Love. I just got the old modell were the wings are boltet on. Cant wait to try. You made me courios of sail planes mr. So now the tigermoth have to wait for alitle while Thanks for nice videos. Grettings from Norway
Started out with balsa and razor knife in the 80,s love your reviews of the phoenix 1600 looks great .was always trying to win the areoplane jelly glider as a kid' may explain a few things. Have built Chris Foss mini phase from plans and this looks so much better. Great reviews mate, grew up watching r/c gliders at long reef on Sydney,s northern beaches my dad flew a 2'mtr zoegling glider ww2 trainer, scale plus many more. love the posts . atb
I Maiden flew Mine yesterday in a howling southerly, I held it up to toss it into the wind an it pulled itself up an away outta My hand without warning! I had a grin from ear to ear as it flew so good. Two minutes in and it looked as if it had taken some BF109 rounds to the motor, smoking heavily I quickly landed to find the motor fried and the mount melted? Hope Bangood have these motors available. Great review Andrew, can't wait to get this bird up again, Yum.
@@AndrewNewton I took it out this afternoon with the best south easter blowing, smooth an perfect for lift, the thing just flew perfect! I had to fit the new motor outside on the front cause of the shaft being the opposite of the original motor an the CG was spot on. I was in the groove till I lost My bearings an Crunch.Snapped a wing clean in half. So I pulled out My ASW 28 for its maiden, mucking with flaps an floating about it was awesome, huge an glowing in the sun I was in heaven dreaming of a sweet touchdown on My huge low tide runway, confident in its massive profile I was heading out to sea and heading way back into the sun over Warrell Creek and then out at sea I was hooking it when again I lost its profile so I flicked the flaps thinking I would get some relativity an all I saw was My big baby corkscrewing and splat. I stood on the shore picking up the parts as They washed in. Still Psyched for My next Bird. Love Your work Andrew, so many things Ive learnt from Your channel, Beauty Mate!
You could definitely add flaps to the inner section of each wing. They might be short-ish, but better than nothing, and if it was me I would be flattening the wing tips too. When I did that to my Bixler2 it gained lift!
@@peterlehmannl5972 Yes, basically. But a little at a time as I imagined the foam might split if I tried to do it all at once. I removed the servos and clamped the wing to my table with a plank of whatever I had available. I used a good quality hair drier by the way, www.amazon.co.uk/Philips-HP4395-SalonDry-Active-Hairdryer/dp/B005HQGKRE as I needed the heat to penetrate rather than just be at the surface. A Heat gun will destroy the surface rapidly! And I only paid £20 by the way. To begin with the wingtip was on the table, not over the edge. That provided a sort of safeguard that I wouldn't go too far. I had to use another piece of wood to do the bending as the heat was too much for my fingers. I had to eventually move the wing tip over the edge of the table and bend it down further. Even so I still ended wit the tips slightly curved up, but only about 15% of the original appearance. It wasn't perfect and took a long time, but it definitely increased the available lift.
Oh, and I then moved the wing back in to the table surface incrementally as I worked nearer and nearer to the tip. Don't forget, you're "forming" the foam, rather than purely bending it. And it will try to return to its original shape a little bit over time.
Another great video , I just bought one of these , have yet to maiden it , when launching should you give it full throttle, or is 3/4 enough or ?? Thank you
Do you think this model would benefit from adding some flaps, like you did on the Trainstar? I think there is enough space between the ailerons and the fuselage but I am reluctant to cut into a new model.
Hey Andrew, thats a very good video. I really enjoy your content. Keep up the good work we appreciate it! If you need an idea for a new plane to build: Have you tried the Goblin from Flite Test? I am building one very soon. Greetings from Germany, Erik
Bravo mate !!! Bravo. Andrew, what motor do you have in it now ? And if you ran a 3S, what size motor would you use ? Thanks buddy. Willie from San Pedro.
@@AndrewNewton thanks mate. Stay safe from those fires. I got a crazy video that you might be interested in . its mostly about the Australian fires going on. weather modification n proof. Not just talk n rumbling jibberish. Please let me know if you like to see it.
Thanks for getting me into hobby. Following you for months now. Just ordered beginner plane with your help. Getting radio in a week or two. Have Q about 2nd plane. Your videos highly recommend Phoenix s, volantex g2 (heard it was a difficult build/I’m inept), and bixler 1.1v2. Which would you recommend for beginner- intermediate overall? Love your videos and cats. Thanks
What did you order for the first plane? G2 and Bixler 1.1 and Bixler 2 are good first planes. PhoenixS and 2000 are great gliders once you stop crashing. Ranger 1600 and 2000 are great intermediate and FPV planes.
Crank up the aileron rates and the roll rate will improve. Certainly better than the PK2 and will stay up in the same conditions. When are you going to treat yourself to a all moulded slope model?
@@AndrewNewton It comes down to size and price as youy don't need a super strong and heavy DS ship. 1.6 to 2m is a nice size. I'll ask over on the FB group
Some suggestions for you on the Slope Soaring And Dynamic Soaring FB group that you are a member of facebook.com/groups/401164633229824/2867260353286894/?comment_id=2867436266602636¬if_id=1573986416377209¬if_t=group_comment
I have put a couple of video`s for this glider on my volantex flying group youtube channel, yes its a truly great new Phoenix but does have some negative points, the kit like i bought did not ship with a plywood lipo tray, lucky i still had the one from my original P1600 one flight wonder, also i had a little tumble with this new P1600 S and the "tough" fuselage cracked in 2 spots around a wing seat, and worth pointing out the PNP should NOT be flown on 3s with stock prop....the 1400kv motor will melt. Andrew as always, thanks for great flying and really good video`s
Julian Humphrey I flew my version 2 2400 with a three cell and stock prop and it ripped the motor clean out of its mounts.
Yes good point, not easy to repair if you crash hard enough to crack the plastic.
Absolutely brilliant once again Andrew! There is a fairly strong wind blowing here in Tassie at the moment so I haven't been flying my glider but after watching this video I now realise that I should make the most of the wind ! It looks far more exciting than a light breeze! You are an inspiration once again so thankyou!
Cheers
Thanks Robert. Yes use the wind if you have a good slope
Having got a volantex ranger 600 and put a couple of flights on it, I got myself this Phoenix S. Andrew makes this look very easy to fly, but flying as a beginner is really difficult. Im putting my lipos into storage mode and getting some more flights in on the ranger 600 before I bring the phoenix back out this summer. Thank you for your videos Andrew!!
A few more flights and you will be good George.
@@AndrewNewton I actually added a basic gyro (nx3) and tried again today. Seemed to click a bit more and felt pretty fun!
Nice one again Andrew, model kit is currently in the BG AU warehouse at a good price. Dam, had to hit that button again.. 👍
Great glider. Just don't push it hard on 3S, it's designed for 2S
Grooving it on that little slope Andrew...a conveyor belt of smooth constant lift...Looks like the perfect all rounder to me...
From one Aussie to another, I must admit Andrew your channel is one of the easiest channels to watch. maybe its just the no BS approach in you delivery. Keep up the great content, also keen to see more on that Reptile Dragon, thinking that will be a good replacement for my tired AR900. Cheers
I'm about ready to give my Dragon a LOS test flight and will be installing an F405 later. Been posting progress on an RCG thread started by Jake Bullit. A few other guys have built and flown them and several are waiting for theirs to arrive. Apparently they were back-ordered not long after Andrew's video.
Thanks Braz. Cut the waffle I say, keep it interesting and on topic.
Love. I just got the old modell were the wings are boltet on. Cant wait to try. You made me courios of sail planes mr. So now the tigermoth have to wait for alitle while
Thanks for nice videos. Grettings from Norway
Have fun!
Smooth Sailin Sir Andrew, Your One Lucky Dog!!! Thanks Mate
Gotta love a plane that feeds off bad weather..Excellent!
Need lots of those sorts of planes.
Started out with balsa and razor knife in the 80,s love your reviews of the phoenix 1600 looks great .was always trying to win the areoplane jelly glider as a kid'
may explain a few things.
Have built Chris Foss mini phase from plans and this looks so much better.
Great reviews mate, grew up watching r/c gliders at long reef on Sydney,s northern beaches my dad flew a 2'mtr zoegling glider ww2 trainer, scale plus many more.
love the posts .
atb
I Maiden flew Mine yesterday in a howling southerly, I held it up to toss it into the wind an it pulled itself up an away outta My hand without warning!
I had a grin from ear to ear as it flew so good. Two minutes in and it looked as if it had taken some BF109 rounds to the motor, smoking heavily I quickly landed to find the motor fried and the mount melted? Hope Bangood have these motors available.
Great review Andrew, can't wait to get this bird up again, Yum.
Excellent, but it is only a 2S power setup. The prop is too big for 3S and the stock 1400kV motor.
@@AndrewNewton I took it out this afternoon with the best south easter blowing, smooth an perfect for lift, the thing just flew perfect!
I had to fit the new motor outside on the front cause of the shaft being the opposite of the original motor an the CG was spot on. I was in the groove till I lost My bearings an Crunch.Snapped a wing clean in half. So I pulled out My ASW 28 for its maiden, mucking with flaps an floating about it was awesome, huge an glowing in the sun I was in heaven dreaming of a sweet touchdown on My huge low tide runway, confident in its massive profile I was heading out to sea and heading way back into the sun over Warrell Creek and then out at sea I was hooking it when again I lost its profile so I flicked the flaps thinking I would get some relativity an all I saw was My big baby corkscrewing and splat. I stood on the shore picking up the parts as They washed in. Still Psyched for My next Bird.
Love Your work Andrew, so many things Ive learnt from Your channel, Beauty Mate!
Man such a cool plane
Great video. I was on pins and needles watching that landing.
Oh yes, it is a tough place to land
First!
Love your show, and especially your homemade jobbers, Andy!
Great flight my friend, am enjoying your channel immensely, with best regards, Alan, UK
Thanks Alan, I enjoy making the videos
Thanks looks a great place to fly👍
You could definitely add flaps to the inner section of each wing. They might be short-ish, but better than nothing, and if it was me I would be flattening the wing tips too. When I did that to my Bixler2 it gained lift!
No to flaps, but I like the idea of flattened tips. I will do that at some stage.
wordreet how did you flatten the tips? Heat and hold?
@@peterlehmannl5972 Yes, basically. But a little at a time as I imagined the foam might split if I tried to do it all at once. I removed the servos and clamped the wing to my table with a plank of whatever I had available. I used a good quality hair drier by the way, www.amazon.co.uk/Philips-HP4395-SalonDry-Active-Hairdryer/dp/B005HQGKRE as I needed the heat to penetrate rather than just be at the surface. A Heat gun will destroy the surface rapidly! And I only paid £20 by the way.
To begin with the wingtip was on the table, not over the edge. That provided a sort of safeguard that I wouldn't go too far. I had to use another piece of wood to do the bending as the heat was too much for my fingers. I had to eventually move the wing tip over the edge of the table and bend it down further. Even so I still ended wit the tips slightly curved up, but only about 15% of the original appearance. It wasn't perfect and took a long time, but it definitely increased the available lift.
Oh, and I then moved the wing back in to the table surface incrementally as I worked nearer and nearer to the tip. Don't forget, you're "forming" the foam, rather than purely bending it. And it will try to return to its original shape a little bit over time.
Wonderful video. Noticed your old 1600 has flaps. I would love to see a video showing how you put flaps on this glider Andrew!
The original came with flaps, but the PhoenixS would be easy to mod. I'll add it to the list of suggested videos.
Looks nice! Spoilerons would help on the slope landings ... much easier than adding flaps or spoilers.
Yep, spoilerons, that's what I meant
Excellent flying, Sir! I'm just learning to Soar with my Phoenix S 1600, I'm really enjoying Soaring!!! Great video. 👍👍😎
Perfect sloper.
Nice models
Andrew.
Whats your favourite cheapest and most expensive slopers of all time?
Keith. 🇬🇧
Love the slope soaring. Too windy for park flying? Go sloping instead.
No problem.
You bet. Have to in windy Geelong and NZ I would imagine
Did I miss something what’s the red and black plane ?? Love your channel your one of the greats in this hobby sir.
Skywalker Mini Plus, up next
Thanks so much for this video.
Another great video , I just bought one of these , have yet to maiden it , when launching should you give it full throttle, or is 3/4 enough or ?? Thank you
Half to 3/4 is enough
Nice!
Great flying Andrew, where are you on this video? All the best.👍
Geelong AUS
Can u do the video how to build this plane?
Long gone, I would need a new one
Do you think this model would benefit from adding some flaps, like you did on the Trainstar? I think there is enough space between the ailerons and the fuselage but I am reluctant to cut into a new model.
Not really needed on the PhoenixS. Just extra weight and drag
Hey Andrew, thats a very good video. I really enjoy your content. Keep up the good work we appreciate it! If you need an idea for a new plane to build: Have you tried the Goblin from Flite Test? I am building one very soon. Greetings from Germany, Erik
Goblin looks good. Thanks Erik
nice sloping. ballast that thing up next time :)
Yeah maybe not here
Is this the pnp version?
Im looking to get one soon and your info would be most helpful
Yes PNP version. I have also tested the RTF version www.youtube.com/@AndrewNewton/search?query=PhoenixS%20742-7%20
Have you tried to thermal it on a still day yet .
Interested in purchasing one if it goes good . Be a good little traveling plane
Yes I have, not as good as the 2000 but certainly a competent thermaller.
Thank you
Does this plane have enough room for a F4-wing?
Not really designed for it. Tight access
@@AndrewNewton thank you for the reply
Bravo mate !!! Bravo. Andrew, what motor do you have in it now ? And if you ran a 3S, what size motor would you use ? Thanks buddy. Willie from San Pedro.
PNP motor 2212 1400kV. I would change to 9x5 prop and use the same motor.
@@AndrewNewton thanks mate. Stay safe from those fires. I got a crazy video that you might be interested in . its mostly about the Australian fires going on. weather modification n proof. Not just talk n rumbling jibberish. Please let me know if you like to see it.
Thanks for getting me into hobby. Following you for months now. Just ordered beginner plane with your help. Getting radio in a week or two. Have Q about 2nd plane. Your videos highly recommend Phoenix s, volantex g2 (heard it was a difficult build/I’m inept), and bixler 1.1v2. Which would you recommend for beginner- intermediate overall? Love your videos and cats. Thanks
What did you order for the first plane? G2 and Bixler 1.1 and Bixler 2 are good first planes. PhoenixS and 2000 are great gliders once you stop crashing. Ranger 1600 and 2000 are great intermediate and FPV planes.
Almost looks like an F3F Circuit you are running there, m8.
If only, I drool over those slopers
Crank up the aileron rates and the roll rate will improve. Certainly better than the PK2 and will stay up in the same conditions. When are you going to treat yourself to a all moulded slope model?
As soon as you tell me what to buy and I find a reasonable price. That's really the only model I would splash out on.
@@AndrewNewton It comes down to size and price as youy don't need a super strong and heavy DS ship. 1.6 to 2m is a nice size. I'll ask over on the FB group
Some suggestions for you on the Slope Soaring And Dynamic Soaring FB group that you are a member of facebook.com/groups/401164633229824/2867260353286894/?comment_id=2867436266602636¬if_id=1573986416377209¬if_t=group_comment
Great stuff thanks. I have been taking notes.
@@AndrewNewton get a mini Q
whats better prop if use 4S lipo?
Maybe 8x4
Where is my BF 109...)
Ce!