Review: White's Service Boot Lives Up to Its Reputation
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
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White’s is often mentioned in the same breath as really high end boots like Viberg and Alden, and they have a dedicated following online - for this price, they need one. Do they hold up?
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** First Glance **
These boots really transport you to a simpler time in men’s footwear. Reminiscent of the Civil War-era during which the company was founded, these shoes are much less blocky than your classic Iron Ranger toecapped workboots. Instead they’re relatively sleek, but with the kind of thick leather and Goodyear welt that remind you they can really take a beating outdoors.
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** Leather **
It’s available in a bunch of different Chromexcels but I decided to go with what might be their signature leather for this boot, the Cinnamon Waxed Flesh. It’s quite mottled but that’s not because it’s roughout, it’s actually a regular full grain leather that’s been hit with a super, super waxy finish. It shimmers in the light, smells like a candle, and imparts real weather resistance.
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** Leather Care **
White's suggests cleaning it with Saddle Soap or, failing that, a wet rag. For conditioning they sell their own products: use their preservative to best protect it against mildew and saly, while their oil is more of a conditioner that will soften the leather. Don't condition them more than once a month.
** Sole **
The outsole is Dainite, a widely adored medium density rubber that offers a good compromise of durability, flexibility, traction, and softness. After that there’s a leather midsole, leather insole, and a leather shank.
The boot is hand handmade, hand sewn, hand lasted, hand welted, and hand bottomed. It’s meant to be as easy to resole as any Goodyear welt.
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** Fit & Sizing **
Available in B, C, D, and EE widths, these shoes fit phenomentally well. They have a design that they call Arch Ease Support that’s meant to duplicate the natural shape of the foot. Everyone’s foot is different but in my opinion, they absolutely knocked it out of the park. The arch support is great, the instep feels great, it feels like they were custom made for my foot.
I ordered a half size smaller than my true to size.
** Price **
These cost $560 a pair, but if you don’t like the toecap the plain toe boot is about $530 a pair. Note that I waited 5 weeks for my pair to arrive, though you may have a shorter wait time.
** White’s Boots Pros and Cons **
White's Boots Pros
• Super comfortable
• Quite versatile
• Tough leather
• Water resistant
• Great quality control
White's Boots Cons
• A little pricy
• Long order time
• Folds along laces
• 270-degree welt
• No speed hooks
Nick , One of the big things with Whites custom boot's is that they are 100% rebuildable and are a life time purchase. If you send them back to the factory they will rebuild them for you using your original measurements. I have a pair of smoke jumpers that have been completely rebuilt 4 times and still fit my feet perfectly.
Very cool! Should add that to the written review. Was just wearing these today!
Note that in summer 2019, White’s changed the name of this boot from the MP Service Boot to the MP Sherman Boot. Without a toecap, it’s called the MP Stuart Boot.
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I’m trying to figure out-what’s the difference between their Sherman and M1 boot? Thanks
Cdubp01 I asked Whites about this, and they said “the difference is only in the Heel counter, 1 piece on the M1 vs 2 piece on the Sherman”.
Kudos for pronouncing Spokane correctly. Be thankful they aren't based in Sequim. Or Snohomish.
@@Kingfisher1215 Thanks! I had to triple check before filming
@@Stridewise Hey have you heard of The Hartt Shoe Company founded in 1898 out of Fredericton, New Brunswick?
Can you do a review of these please?
Designed in Canada and hand made in Spain.
Their boots are similar to Viberg’s in looks.
I just bought a pair of their Bedford Boots.
Calfskin leather
Premium calf skin lining
Premium silk lined dust bags
Leather Sole with Rubber inlay
Stacked leather heel with rubber inlay
270 degree Goodyear welt construction
I gave plasma for two months in order to earn enough to buy these boots (my wife and I agreed that money from our full-time jobs goes to our general budget, but any money I make from selling my body is mine to spend on what I like). They arrived 8 weeks after I ordered them. I got them in natural CXL, a toe cap, and Dainite.
The CXL is twice as thick as that on my natural CXL Allen Edmonds Stirlings. The MP Service Boot is by far the best boot I've ever owned and was worth my blood money. XD
Oh my god, that is a phenomenal story Jonathan. Literal blood money. Gave plasma for White's boots. And you bought three pairs! How many visits did it take?
@@Stridewise It takes roughly 14 visits for each pair.
Holy shit, literally selling your body for boots. Damn
Damn I should do this lol
@@drsrsv8884lol!!!
I got my first pair of White’s MP Sherman sometime in September and can honestly say it’s all thanks to your review. I love my Alden 405 but the MP Sherman is hands down the most comfortable and supportive boots I own yet. As someone with eee width and flat feet, the width offerings and arch eases system is incredible. Thanks for the great review!
Thanks for this comment. I have F with on one foot and E width on the other. I will probably drive down to Spokane in the spring and get an in person fitting.
@@alaskahudson I wish I lived nearby so I too could get a proper in-person fitting! Best of luck.
I thought the Barrie last doesn’t have the arch ease support. Can you confirm this?
@@BuenoReviews the arch ease support is proprietary to White’s boots; however, Alden’s Barrie last has arch support created by a triple ribbed steel shank and last shape.
Great review! For people who have never owned a pair of White's, it's almost impossible to understand the quality and craftsmanship. The arc support and durability is virtually unmatched imo. Because of the fit, for me, prefer to wear a pair of my Truman's, but never disappointed when I lace up the White's!
Glad you agree!
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You’re the first person talking about handmade shoes and boots to mention cleaning with saddle soap. I have used that on all my shoes, boots and saddles and other tack since I was a child. I think the best conditioner is Lexol which is a great product and won’t discolor leather. It’s very inexpensive compared to some of the ‘boutique’ conditioners. All of my tack stayed in great condition and was never bothered by horse sweat or rain. I’m looking for a pair of MTO boots for myself. It’s not quite as easy for women as for a man. Nice video. 👍☮️🌞🌟🥾
There is a large variety of different versions of that boot. Mine have half soul Vibram’s and speed hooks in the brown chrome excel with the toe cap but you can get them without the toe cap and different heel counters and they provide leather laces and waxed flat cotton laces. They are a long boot so you would have to size down one whole size probably because I wear a 10 on the Branick scale but purchased a nine and considered an 8 1/2. They are long!
bakershoes allows you to customize white's boots to have a wider variety of leathers and the option of speedhooks as well, not sure why it's not available right on their website but I'm sure they would do it if requested.
The fit and break-in period etc. are really comes down to the individual foot shape. I bought a pair of White’s MP 6 months ago and have to say it isn’t that comfortable, still touching my foot. I then ordered a pair of Viberg 2030 services boot couple weeks ago and it has been really good to me, especially the support from the leather insole. Viberg is better than White’s in the detail too.
Yeah I'd probably agree, Viberg's QC is meticulous. Break in really seems to just be luck of the draw though.
Hey man! Greatly enjoy the reviews. Keep em going!
I was considering these or the Dayton service boots, as they both look similar, but I am leaning towards these. I don’t have the budget for both, so I was wondering your thoughts on the major pros of each and/or what you’d consider if you could only have one?
Thanks!!
Looks like Viberg's service boot has a real competitor now with a better price point. I use White's bounty Hunters for work and the cost really pays for itself in the long run. I've worked and walked a ton of miles in mine and only now need a resole/heel after 3 years.
Yeah those two companies are vying for a similar market, though Viberg has more of a 'classy' reputation I think. I like the fit of White's a lot better.
@Stridewise Hey have you heard of The Hartt Shoe Company founded in 1898 out of Fredericton, New Brunswick?
Can you do a review of these please?
Designed in Canada and hand made in Spain.
Their boots are similar to Viberg’s in looks.
I just bought a pair of their Bedford Boots.
Calfskin leather
Premium calf skin lining
Premium silk lined dust bags
Leather Sole with Rubber inlay
Stacked leather heel with rubber inlay
270 degree Goodyear welt construction
Just ordered a pair of MP Sherman’s in natty CXL and half lug sole, can’t wait for 20 months to pass 😂 super excited, these will replace a shagged pair of Iron Rangers.
Please don't tell me you actually have to wait that long! Natty MPs are a terrific level up from Iron Rangers, you're doing it right Dr Zaius
Great choice! I’m getting these in cinnamon too and it’s the iron and resin collaboration. Their version comes with brass eyelets and speed hooks, leather laces and TPU rubber mini 1/2 lug outsole. 👌🏽
Tricked out! I regret not getting the speed hooks. Enjoy them, EJ.
The White's TPU sole is crazy good. Really good grip and wears like iron.
iamntbatman oh that’s good! Because these will be used hard.
Ordered my mp service boots in brown oil smooth. Was gonna order them in chromexel, but don't like how easily chromexel scuffs. It's gonna be here in the next few days; have high expectations for them.
just got my boots. Everything looks good except for the sole. The sole doesn't sit flat on the ground, i can wobble it around a little bit when placed on a table. I am wondering if it's just how it is with new boots. Will the sole lay flat as it gets broken in? Right now, it's clear that the middle of the sole is making contact with the ground.
Baker's Boots, Triple Aught Design, and Mannan & Renz all sell the White's MP Boots. Both Baker's and Mannan & Renz sell at a cheaper price than you can find on the White's website.
Thanks for the tip! Added that to the written review and thanked you in the text :)
William Taylor what is the difference buying them from bakers as opposed to whites directly?
Love the boots. Also glad to see you've come a long way from the acoustic guitar and echoey room. Love the videos.
haha thanks! we all gotta start somewhere :)
great video man! I've always wanted a pair of White's, I always just found it hard to navigate their website. I often mistake White's for Vibergs at first glance, the quality is definitely up there!!
Yeah it's crazy how many good boot companies have dreadful websites.
You should look at Baker’s website. There you can customize the hardware too 👍🏻
If you buy them from baker shoe they are only $500 and you get 10% off if you sign up for emails. You can also order the boots with speed hooks from them also.
Good tip! I'll add it to the written review, thanks Matt
mhapp11 hi. Is there a difference buying them from bakers tho?
Is there a difference between ordering from White’s or bakers in terms of quality or waiting time?
I am looking at the plain toe in Black Chromexcel. If only I had these when I was in the military.
My first pair hasn't arrived yet and I'm thinking ordering the second pair...
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@@JustAnotherDayToday I have other boots from White's before so I know it'll be great, and I really like the look of MP boots.
You mentioned in your recent Danner review that the heel of that boot was relatively low when compared to other boots. How tall is the White's heel, and how would you rate this heel, in terms of feel and height? Thank you!
Those are beautiful and finally arch support! I'd actually like that sloppy look with the laces and tongue for more informal occasions.
Great looking boots!!
They are!
Great video thank you! If one were to compare white’s MP boot with Oakstreet Bootmaker Trench boot, how would these two stack up against each other?
Hi Nick- How would you compare these to the identical looking (but 1/3 the price) Thursday Captain for fit and comfort?
Hey, so sorry Bradley I just saw this. If both boots were the same price I'd go with Whites, especially because the arch support is so great. But they're not the same price haha. If money is no object, get White's
2023 takes about 8 months from order to your door step! CRAZY!
I know, it's bonkers. Get Truman!
Great review! I want a pair of these now haha. Also I kind of like the folding and wrinkling by the laces
Yeah it's not a huge deal. I was struggling to find negative things to say tbh haha I really like these boots
Nick, do you ever plan to review any of the other White's boots aside from the MP? I'd be curious to know your opinions of their Semi-Dress.
Nice Review, great boots. Got myself a pair in brown oiled smooth leather a little while ago because of your review. The break in period was nightmarish. Now they're more comfortable with each wear. The only problem is the boots started to develop a little squeak (probably just my particular pair). Anyone else has this problem?
Great to hear! I've convinced so many people to buy Whites because of this video, God I wish I had an affiliate link or something with them! I haven't had the squeaking issue but I should write an article on how to reduce squeaking...
Nick! You left out that they are stitch down construction. Adds to their water resistance and of course cost. Awesome boots.
These aren't stitchdown they're GYW! Have they changed construction?
@@liljuanito123 Aw they changed it since I reviewed it. Now I need another review haha
Hey Nick, can you review Normandy boots from Allen Edmonds?
Yesss
Fantastic review! My hometown in Canada is only 2 hours from Spokane so I might have to take a drive down when I'm back this summer...those boots look awesome. Spokane's a great place too, especially if you're into craft beer...:) Thanks Nick for another great vid.
Thanks for the kind words! I'm a big fan of Whites
Would be great to see a direct comparison between these, Viberg and Dayton.
You know I'd like to but practically nobody is searching Google for 'Viberg vs Dayton' so it probably wouldn't be worth my time. I'll mention Viberg a lot in the Dayton review though, just for you :)
I moved to Spokane 9 months ago and had no idea it was such a hotbed for boots. I visited Whites yesterday and tried these on. I ended up ordering a pair of customized Falcons a little while later from Nicks. These might be my next pair of boots though. I think they have a 20% sale on a few pairs of this model in the store if anyone is in Spokane.
Nicks vs Whites is such a classic matchup! I need to get a pair of Falcons as well. Hope you try 'em both and report back with what you find!
Stridewise For sure! I’m excited about them. They’ve recently changed up the design a bit and added different leather and a less boxy toe. I ordered a pair in black with a toe cap and brass hardware. If you check out the Task Boot collaboration between Craft and Lore and Nicks you’ll get a good idea of what they’ll kinda look like. Definitely keep an eye out for Nicks. They look to be doing some really cool stuff in the near future. craftandlore.com/products/task-boot?_pos=1&_sid=b74721d63&_ss=r&variant=27860218642497
Hot diggity damn those are some nice nice boots - thanks for the link!
I been eyeing this boot for a while. My end game boots would be truman boot and these whites mp boot. Love the look on these boots.
Yeah these are boss level boots, a fantastic shoe.
Thank you for your videos. Please review the Semi-Dress boots by White's. Thank you
Whites and I believe Nicks uses leather shanks because steel shanks get too hot when firefighters need to work on hot ground or coals. The leather does a better job of protecting the foot from the heat.
Yeah I heard that! Very cool stuff.
Made a purchase today based on your review through Baker Shoe in OR. Kyle at Baker recommend a 7 D, I said that Allen Edmonds 65 last fits me spot on and my Alden Indy in 8 E is just a little bit wide
I am going to order the whites service boot but my size in Alden indy is 7.5 D so I will get the 7" D for Whites boots ?
Awesome review! Will there be a updated review?
These boots use an older Alden last as described on Baker's website.
I was just wondering if you had to send them your foot measurements when ordering?
Only if you're doing a custom order.
Great Boots! When I received my boots from Baker's though they looked exactly as the photo on the website.
Excellent. So glad you like yours, this is a grail boot!
Stridewise you’re videos are the best.. you have a wealth of knowledge when it comes to quality boots .. I have purchased some of my boots after watching your reviews .. you do an excellent job of breaking everything down for anyone who has questions about anything regarding boots
Bakers boots sells white's boots, they also sell the bounty hunter which is a collaboration with white's.
Look for another pair of boots to compliment my Alden Indys and I think this may be the boot. Question now is what color to get... decisions.
I worked at a landfill in Roosevelt Washington for a few years. The guys who worked out in the landfill bought Whites or Nicks. But not these nor the smokejumpers. Let me tell you those guys beat the living hell out of those boots. The landfill was some of the harshest conditions you will find for a boot. Acidic, caustic, lots of sharp objects, freezing conditions, ... and both brands lasted far longer than cheaper brands. Crap that was bought at like Walmart or the boots shops down in The Dalles didn't last. Maybe 20% as long. Not sure how the MPs would have lasted however.
Thanks for recounting your experience! White's aren't just the brand, they're enormously respected among folks that need boots they can beat the hell out of for years, if not decades.
Stridewise lot of guys up in the PAC NW also like Wesco. They are made just north of Portland. But out on the landfill, Hawthorns were the style that everyone liked.
Owning a pair of Iron Rangers and the Whites (well two sets), the White's beat the IR's hand down. I wish I just saved the $300-odd and got the White's...but hey, Red Wings lets you try them on instead of taking a $600 shot in the dark.
The Iron Rangers are great entry-level heritage boots. Mine are well-broken in and feel like a new pair of moccasins at this point. The support they provide is minimal. The ankle support is non-existent due to the hilariously oversized shaft. Unless you literally have no arches, there is no support. I am forever skeptical about the speed hooks now because their's bends way too easy. I wish I knew what I was doing, but I was having to bend one back every 1-2 weeks. That said, they are comfortable. Mine didn't take long to break in. What finally caused me to look for another brand is that their footbed is just way too slick. With significant amount of walking, they would slip rather easily.
Where White's shine is the stuff you can't see. You get a great arch support and my foot stays locked in throughout the day. Biggest issue is that I've broken two pair of their waxed laces. Only shoe/boot laces I have ever broken. You do have the option of hooks or eyelets unlike the IR.
I got my Whites in Chromexcel. Time will tell about their durability. From what I see, they scratch too easy and they get some significant creases very early into wear. I think they're better suited for the occasional wearer and not the heavy wearer (unless you're after that well-worn look). Red Wing's leather seems to hold up much better (though it scuffs easily) after some serious use, they started getting the creases that took a couple weeks of moderate use in the chromexcel.
Great comment. Yeah the Iron Rangers don't have great support or shock absorption, certainly not compared to Whites. I like the way you phrased it - they really lock you in. I'm not the biggest fan of Chromexce for boots you plan to beat up, in that regard I really prefer oil tanned leather like the Iron Rangers.
Chromexcel scratches really. Period. It's not a White's thing.
Rusty Shackleford IMO Red Wing leathers are better leathers that are out there for heritage type boots.
Could you have gone a smaller size in the IR's Rusty?
Coming from Australia I don't get to try on in-store often but I was able to with my IR's so I went with the tightest ones I could fit into 9.5 - I have 10 in Thursday Captains, 10.5 in Higgins Mill, 10 in Trickers so it was quite a squeeze but I took a chance and figured I could always wear thin socks if they don't stretch.
Well they did stretch and are now super comfortable and feel very supported and locked in with thick socks.
I really like these Whites, the photos on the website don't do them justice compared to Nick's excellent review.
So what size Whites MP do you have and what size Res Wing IR’s do you guys have? I’m trying to compare. I hate when you can’t try on the boots. I feel like that is why most start out with Red Wings. Thanks guys!
Great detailed review Bud!
I own a pair of my service boots in cinnamon waxed flesh and I’m looking for a conditioner to use and when it comes time, I plan on re-waxing them. Any suggestions on a waxy conditioner that doesn’t darken the leather as much? Would like to restore them to the original appearance or as close to that.
Saddle soap might not be the best idea to use more than once or twice a year unless you really need it. It does dry the leather a lot. Lexol or Bick 4 might be plenty on these 2-3x a year if you don't wear them all the time. Old wet t-shirt is plenty.
Wet t-shirt is the way to go haha. If you check out the full review I've got an image of the care instructions they include with the leather, where they recommend Saddle Soap (shrug)
@@Stridewise yeah, all the manufacturers recommend it. But after building up quite a collection myself and making mistakes with too much cleaning and too much conditioning, I really do think that these types of boots are much, much tougher than we care to think. Not long ago they weren't a luxury item, and if anything modern construction methods have gotten better than they ever were, especially for established bootmakers.
I like the channel btw, solid videos!
I guess the outer sole stitch can be worn out fairly quickly. once the stitches are gone, would the upper separate from the sole?
No , the friction between the threads and the sole will hold them together.
Looking at the stitching in the outer sole, it is not set back into a groove (forget the term cobblers use). As a result you can see some of the thread fraying from use.
How do people prevent this and protect the thread?
I guess when you'd get them resoled, the replacement could have the groove.
I own these boots in black Chromexcel and they're easily the best boot I've ever worn, I can't say enough about White's products. Would love to see you get your hands on a pair of Dayton boots to see how their service boot is. I think that will be my next boot I get. Great review, keep them coming.
Dayton review is coming up! I adore their boots too, though I've literally never in my life had a harder break in haha
Very nice review dude
Thanks Mahesh!
Is it the same as Alden Barrie last?
Hey Nick, I was looking at these on the website tonight... The MP Sherman says it’s built on the MP last now. Are they the same, just renamed? I really like this last you have on your boot in the review, the Barrie. Unable to find anywhere on website. Have any info?
Nick, I've never seen anyone do a review on White's plain-toe service boot, is the cap toe that much stronger of a look?
love the shirt!
These are probably better than Vibergs. Vibergs are very uncomfortable for what they charge. Aldens are also very comfortable boots.
Great take again! And yes, more comfy than Vibergs.
Viber is uncomfortable at the pockets
Thanks!
great video! but can you review a semi dress one? I'm gonna buy it but I need some review. thanks in advance!
I am very simple guy, see leather boots i like and subscribe
Now this is the kind of subscriber I need more of :) Glad you like the vids, Adarsh!
@@Stridewise I love leather boots, and the details you bring in along with nowhere else found colors and since it's coming from a guy who's actually worn them for months and years, it's appreciable effort. You deserve it bro! Keep up the good work.
Thanks so much! Yeah definitely wearing the boots is important for a review, a lot of guys don't.
Saddle soap strips down everything to the bare leather. That’s a last resort cleaner.
Good pointer, Jason
I made this experience with my brand new iron rangers 🙈 . Had to recolour them afterwards
So the better option is?
best looking boots ever!! these are my dream boots.
Rath Jong get in touch with them and get on their email list. They put them on sale occasionally. They were just 25% off for Father's Day. Also they sell some overstocks on ebay but usually in fringe sizes. So if you are a size 8 or 9 you might be in luck. You might check out Wesco boots too. Similar quality if not even better.
Great review. $600 is a bit steep, considering that Allen Edmonds boots can be had for considerably less and with a 360-degree welt. In your opinion, are they worth the $600?
I own 8 pairs of Allen Edmonds as well as a pair of White's MP Service Boots. The White's are in a completely different league from the AE's. In this case, at least, you get what you pay for.
I would love to get a pair of these but I wouldnt want them to be too narrow, my iron rangers feel a little narrow and hurt my pinky toes after a while.
Great video. I bought the Truman waxed flesh in March. And im thinking of these next. Care to make a video on how you condition the Truman and this one? 👌💯
I have care tips in the written articles for both! Check them out, Hector
@@Stridewise Ok. I will. Thanks "Nick at Stridewise.com :D Keep up the amazing job.
Thank you for all the videos you Do. Would you say these are wider in the toe box then a Iron Ranger or Beckman from Redwings? These are going to be my next purchase!
Ugh sorry man I missed this comment. The Red Wing boots have a wider toe box, they're more bulbous.
When they say this all my Iron Rangers wet themselves and hid in the closet...
Haha they are a step above, Jonathan
Were these off the shelf or made to measure? The five week lead time leads me to believe that you did the custom measure.
No, these ones were made to order but not made to my specifications
@@Stridewise Thanks! I'm about to exchange a pair of MP Sherman. Bought 9.5, sizing down as recommended by whites, but still too large. So I'm just going to go through the measurement process and get them right the second time
Great video as always. Please review asian brands from Japan or Indonesia in the future, just a suggestion :)
I have some Sagara I'm going to review soon! Biggest heel ever haha. Santalum on the way soon, I'm really interested in Indonesian boots. I interviewed the founders of both companies here stridewise.com/tag/indonesia/
Oh awesome! Really looking forward to your Sagara review - I keep seeing their gorgeous boots in my Instagram and it's hard to say no. I've also got some Txture boots coming in from Indonesia I'm excited about. It's crazy how good the boots in SE Asia are these days. I saw some service boots on Reddit being built in Vietnam that I'd put up against anything from North America or Japan in levels of finish.
Stridewise Thank you! :D
What size did you get these in?
I customized a pair of Bounty Hunter’s with Burgundy Chromexcel and they were beautiful but I didn’t size them right and tried to wear them but I ended up selling them due to them being to big. Looking to get another pair in the future
Haha I thought about getting the burgundy CXL for a minute!
Did you not send your measurements in???
I've looked into these Whites, the Oak Street Lakeshore cap toes and the new Red Wing Williston (in teak leather). All high quality and able to dress up. Any plans on doing the Red Wing Williston?
Thinking about it! I think I need to do Allen Edmonds Sullivan Street next. Do you think Red Wing Williston or the Merchant would be a better choice? Red Wing is releasing a ton of boots to compete with sleeker Thursday-type boots now.
I think the Merchant is more popular (it's been around longer), but the Williston is advertised to offer more - a higher quality build. Its supposed to have more cushion in the heal and the outsole is different. Additionally, it seems to be more versatile - jeans will work and so will chinos or a suit. The merchant strikes me as a more casual boot, whereas the Williston seems to be more of a dress boot. My vote is the Williston. But hey, you have an audience to which you're trying to appeal. Gotta please the masses!
Interesting you keep reviewing boots I have or transiting to me haha! I have a pair of Sullivan Street too!
Do they ship to the UK? Couldn't see any indication on their site.
The quad stitching is for show. In reality it is only double stitched through the leather. Two rows of stitching are for show
Look great, but very expensive...
What about the Size, is it going down 1/2 from my regular size?
I'm seriously considering getting these boots. I wear 7.5D in my RW Iron Ranger, and it fits pretty comfortable. Do you recommend getting the same size as my Red Wing for these boots?
Yep I wear the same size as my Red Wings. I adore this boot!
Great detailed review. Thanks!
So glad you liked it, Michael!
Hey Nick,
I love your channel and am a subscriber. I was curious if you ever considered doing any reviews of dress boots, like chukka/dessert or Chelsea boots.
P.S. I did purchase a pair of presidents from Thursday boots and love them. They are my first pair that I have owned. For anyone that wants a good entry boot with good quality and a great price at $200 you should check them out. Also there should be a review video on stridewise as well if you want to check that out
There is a review on them! ua-cam.com/video/FLCi8dk7sgg/v-deo.html
I'm trying to do some dressier boots like Allen Edmonds Sullivan Street, for Chelseas I've done RM Williams and I've got Wolf and Shepherd coming up.
Hi Nick,
I have the thursday captain natural and im thinking on upgrading to this model of white's, the MP. Do you think it worth the extra money? The leather that you are showing looks good, but what do you think about the british tan chromexcel? Thanks and kip up your good reviews :)
Ps: sorry about my bad inglish and if you have a suggestion on a good but more cheaper model i also appreciate :)
@stridewise are you there? And another question. Between the white's boot Mp and the allen edmonds higgins mill? Whats your opinion? And at the end, whats your thoughts with the captains boot of thursday comparing to the white's Mp and the higgins mill? Thanks! :)
Looks awesome. Why can’t I find this on their website? I see an MP sherman and MP stuart, is this one of those?
What... the... they changed their entire store!!! I can't see this boot anywhere. But it's their most famous boot? They can't have discontinued it. I'll write to them!
Random question but, what are the chinos you're wearing in the vid? Love the boots by the way!
J Crew chinos! Stretchy ones.
Hi, could you do a review of red wing mil-1 congress boots? I can't find a decent review on these. I love my Beckmans, but for work, I need smth dressier. I always wanted to try pull-on boots.
Thank you for your work.
Are these made by White's anymore (November, 2019)? On their website, I only see the MP-Sherman's, MP-Stuart's, and MP-M1's, but no "Service Boot". I'm guessing the MP-Sherman's are the closest to the Service Boot (ie, cap top, full Dainite sole, leather shank, etc)...? Thank you.
This is the Sherman boot now, yeah, they changed the name but it's the same name on Bakers.
Since it's been a while owning both your whites and Truman's, which do you recommend? Say for long standing times/walking, I myself spend a bit of time outdoors too so a reasonable amount of traction is needed.
But in terms of build quality and general comfort (I have an arch, but I wouldn't say massively high) which did you prefer? Both look great, thanks in advance!
White's!
@@Stridewise thanks! Looking at the 350 Cruiser. Similar to the MP without the toe cap but with a 55 last. Between British tan Chromexcel and Cinnamon waxed flesh, I went cinnamon and decided to go mini lug vibram. Maybe I need to do a first time channel video reviewing them 🤣.
But in all due seriousness, thanks for the reviews and the great channel, it helped alot!
Hi nick, can u pls review the Nicks Boots Falcon. Ty so much mate 😊
I will try! I have to do all these measurements of my foot first and I keep being too lazy to do so. But Nick's is really missing in my reviews
I can’t find a link to the boots neither he mentions their price wtf man
I say the price at 07:57! Note the name has changed to MP Sherman Boot
Hey Nick, could you compare these to the Nick’s Falcon boot?
Gotta get a pair first, Robert! It's really annoying to measure my foot for the order...
Stridewise hey man! Thanks for the response! Love the videos. Makes sense with the sizing. That’s partly what holding me back
Did you buy the same size as Iron Ranger?
I want to tell the truth. I started with Red Wings and was very impressed. But to be honest, skip the MP boot and go straight to the Cutter : Bounty Hunter. No comparion. 3X’s the RW boot. No comparison
Could anyone tell me which boots are pictured on the bottom row second to the left on the Stridewise intro?
If I had to guess.... From left to right? Vibergs, Thorogood, RM Williams(probably not some kind of Chelsea), Wolverine 1ks, Chippewa Service boot
Can you please do a whites vs Truman video?
Do you only review work/service boots? Considering the price range of some the boots you review would you consider any Shell Cordovan Boot reviews?
I'd consider Cordovan down the line Hezekiah, I am interested in them but I feel I'd want to wear them for like a year to properly figure out the anti creasing properties.
@@Stridewise Thanks I look forward to your Cordovan reviews. In the mean time, keep up the good work.
That wide gusset is made to be folded over and help add cushion from laces and protect tongue from laces. Bit of a pain at first but gets easier as it breaks in.
Hi Stridewise, I'm trying to decide whether or not to buy a New Zealand made boot by Last and Loom, which have a "brass screw wire" construction. Do you know much about this method or anything about this brand in general? You do great reviews my friend. Many thanks.
Sorry man, I'm not super familiar. Will do some digging.
@@Stridewise Thanks champ.
How is the sizing compared to the Red Wing merchants? Are they the same? or does one run larger than the other?
Same size
@@Stridewise thank you so much! Incredibly helpful.
Hey Nick, great review!, what boots from Sagara did you order and any initial impressions?
These ones! www.sagarabootmaker.com/product/legacy-vi-cigar-pull-up/ You have to email them directly and ask them to make them for you. Took friggin ages to get made but they're great boots.
Sweet! Happy that watching these videos funds your boot addiction! The dream man.
Ohhhh you got them in their local pull-up! Even moreso looking forward to your review then, since all those Indonesian makers seem to be wanting to copy CXL with their pull-up leathers and it's just so hard to see how it stacks up. You've got so much CXL experience that your review should be really insightful.
Whites MP or Trumans?
Whites.
Both great choices. I view Trumans as the exotic rare leather boot and whites as functional work boots.
What would you recommend more, the whites or the Dayton’s?
Whites. Dayton are a bit overpriced.