What I Learned Testing Game Pass on Deck
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- Опубліковано 18 чер 2024
- While I've had it on my deck for a while, I tried to spend some quality time testing Game Pass on deck this past weekend. For the most part I'd say it's a pretty good experience, but there are some caveats and definitely a few quirks I found using it on the Steam Deck specifically. So, here's a look at what you can expect from cloud streaming games to your Steam Deck via Xbox Game Pass.
0:00 - Intro
1:27 - Jumping into Game Pass
2:29 - Considerations for Playing Games
5:06 - Advantages of Game Pass on Deck
7:38 - A Couple of Quirks
9:34 - Final Thoughts
11:16 - Outro
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I've been loving Game Pass on my Steam Deck for all the reasons you stated in this video. One additional quirk is that the games don't provide much description and no videos or screenshots on the Steam Deck application, so I've been browsing the library on the cell phone app before jumping into a session with a game that catches my eye.
It's pretty great for the most part! Really enjoying installing them natively though on the Ally :)
Fantastic bro! Been wondering how it would work on the Deck, Big thanks! :D
Appreciate it, homie! So far I'd say it's very good but not QUITE great. Again, if you're already a subscriber it's at least worth a shot but if not, maybe see if you can check out a free trial or something?
Have been playing through Fable 2 via Game Pass on Steam Deck. It works fine for me. Only difficult part was configuring an external controller, but got it going.
Why? It doesnt let you use de buttons from the steam deck?
I haven't done a ton of controller testing yet BUT I was thinking about getting that 8bitdo Ultimate controller at some point :) Glad you were able to get it working though!
In the same vein, I can't believe how nicely the Deck streams from my PC. It's great for the really demanding games.
Whenever I get a gaming rig going again I'll have to give it a shot! I'm sure it'll perform better just streaming from LAN than over the internet.
Great consideration of the streaming service, thanks for your perspective! As I watch the video, I am struck but how many titles I would probably have skipped simply for text size on the small-ish Steam Deck screen. For example, my 42 year old eyes require mods on Witcher 3 to resize the HUD and boost the font size overall to really make it enjoyable. Some games, like NBA2K, I have to play in entirely different ways on portable than I do on desktop as well. For desktop, I’m the dirty heathen that does the classic broadcast view, but on Deck, this view muddles all of the details I enjoy about the broadcast view. I might stay on the sidelines still a bit on this one (unintentional carrying forward of the sports into metaphor, ha!) for those reasons, as I don’t imagine Game Pass games are designed with smaller screens in mind … or is my crotchety old man showing?
LoL you certainly don't seem THAT crotchety from what I've seen :p I didn't even consider the HUD but it might be that my video isn't really doing it justice. I don't have a ton of issues with smaller text but can certainly see how that'd be a consideration- ESPECIALLY in a game like Witcher 3!
My new favorite UA-camr! Keep up the good work brother
Daww, thanks a bunch, toaster, and I'll certainly do what I can :)
I have an Xbox series s and I am a game pass subscriber and I set this up on the deck and it's fantastic I have my dock hard wired to my router so it's flawless but even if I take the deck and use GAMEPASS streaming in bed it's still amazing a few minor hiccups here and there hasn't affected my experience I really like it
I have the X and the S after finding one dirt cheap at a local shop. And I'm with ya- it's not gonna be FLAWLESS but it's stable enough that I can enjoy it, especially for less demanding titles in the vein of RPGs, visual novels, etc.
Your probably the only UA-camr that accurately described the experience on game streaming. I thought I was the only one dealing with artifacts, low quality streams. I think game pass is great but needs work on edge.
Glad to hear you enjoyed it! Definitely not a perfect experience but good enough for jumping in for short sessions or testing out indie games you might be considering to purchase on Steam :)
I'm glad to see that you've tested it out as I was wondering how well GamePass PC would run on the Deck and I'm happy with what I saw! When you think about it, it's the only way to play Xbox exclusives on the go (unless you want to play on your phone)! So even if they were a couple of glitches to it, I would take it! Great video and keep up the good work!
Yup, it's DEFINITELY playable but not perfect obviously :p Appreciate it, man!
Great video! Love the Penny Arcade t shirt. I have never used a game steaming service. My son wants an XBOX, is it worth getting since I've never been in the Xbox lifestyle before?
Bwahaha thanks man- glad you caught it and was curious if anyone would notice :p I think an Xbox Series S with Game Pass is the most economical way to get access to a TON of games. If he wants a Series X that'll definitely be pricier, but either way I'd say that yes, Game Pass itself is an amazing service just because he'll be able to install the games locally and not have to worry about streaming but then if he WANTS to stream to a different device he'll have the option to do that as well and pick up where he left off since it syncs all your save data automatically : )
Great video, brother! Now I just have to attempt to put Game Pass on my Steam Deck. I see you were playing some 007!
Is it easy to put gamepass on the deck?
@@chuck176 I have not tried yet but I hope to soon. I’ll let you know, when I make the attempt. From what I’ve heard, it is supposed to be easy. I’m just not very good with computer stuff. Haha
Appreciate it, dude! LoL yes I totally forgot that they FINALLY got it published on modern consoles and HAD to give it a go! I know a lot of people were iffy on the audio/visual performance but hey, I'm no purist and honestly it was just great being able to EASILY dive back into some Goldeneye with more modern controls ya know? :)
I'm realizing now I probably should've done a tutorial video or something but it's not TOO bad. I think this is the guide I used if it's helpful :) www.polygon.com/guides/23537216/steam-deck-xbox-game-pass-cloud-gaming-install-microsoft-edge-desktop-mode
@@YourPlayer2 Seriously, tutorial killer right here ua-cam.com/video/qw-CqYH2TJw/v-deo.html
Hi Josh, sorry for going off topic but this afternoon I tested the Demo for Resident Evil 4 on my PC and PS4. On my PC the Demo has a slight lag but I really loved the Demo, I can't wait for the full Game on PS5. Yesterday I got Gran Turismo 7 for PS5 and now I'm looking for Gran Turismo 5: Academy Edition, it was the last G.T. Game I played back in 2014. Question: Is it possible to live stream and record our Gameplays at the same time with the elgato HD 60 S? Take care. :)
Dude no worries! I played it too and it feels GREAT doesn't it?! I've heard a lot of good about GT7 from my buddy who got it just for PSVR2 :p I THINK you can do both at the same time, but you'd probably need to play around with the settings in OBS. Personally I've only ever done one or the other or if I WAS doing both, I had a splitter sending the video signal to 2 separate cards. One for streaming and one for capturing to a separate machine.
@@YourPlayer2 Thanks Josh, you're always a great help, I'm thinking about doing some Live Streams for UA-cam/Facebook but I also wanted to keep the Gameplays, I will try with the Avermedia Live Gamer Ultra but somehow I have a feeling that I can only do one but I will try. By the way, I will definitely play Resident Evil 4 on PS5 because on my PC I have a slight lag, same thing with The Last of Us, I really wanted to play it on PC but after looking at the Specs I found out that I can only play it on Ultra Low (but I will test it anyway). Wishing you a great weekend. :)
I think you should've touched on side-loading windows and installing the Game Pass games to your deck's drive for offline play, similar to what you can do with a laptop, rather than singularly focusing on streaming.
This is the real value of a GP sub for me. As a console gamer I don't have an expansive Steam library so being able to install games from game pass is massive.
Not tried it before! But I'll add it to the list of things to check out and appreciate the insights :)
Where can I find an easy to follow guide showing ne how to place Windows on my SD? Thanks.
He mentioned that
Hello, do you need to own an Xbox to install games in the console and then play it on Steam Deck?
Or you can install games directly on Steam Deck?
I'm in between to buy and Xbox or Steam deck, that's why I'm asking.
You don't need to own an Xbox to cloud stream to it, though you can't install the games natively in SteamOS that I'm aware of. If you prefer the handheld form factor and maximum flexibility for other stuff like emulation the Deck would be a good choice, but if you're just looking to hop in here and there in like a living room setting I'd think the Xbox would be the better approach :)
good video man! more deck videos, happier deck fans
Thanks a bunch, dude! Trying to keep 'em rolling :)
@@YourPlayer2 suggestion. Making videos on different ways to stream from your PC to the deck.
If you haven't made any yet. I don't see too much about that ability and I use it all the time for "newer" games
is there a way to get it working on your deck without cloud? cloud doesn’t work as well as it did for you on my WiFi, the screen would tear like crazy every 30 seconds and I couldn’t stand it
I THINK if you loaded Windows on your Deck, but admittedly I haven't tested this myself.
I have a qustion i have gamepsss setup on my steam deck w no issues but see i have my steam deck docked and like to play on my tv, and use a xbox controller. Well when i use the home buttion to exit back to steam. Its self i cant while gamepsss is launched any ideas how to help me.
Hmmm, I don't know of a solution to that but this reddit thread might be helpful? www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/ya5gi4/playing_xbox_game_pass_docked_with_a_controller/
Living in Australia, latency has always been an issue for streaming games... but they have game servers in Melbourne and Sydney. Worth looking into... and certainly worth trying for a month. Would love to just try out some different games on Deck while lounging around away from the console.
And I think that's the biggest issue with game streaming. I truly believe it's the future of gaming, but until infrastructure improves worldwide I don't see it becoming the de facto method for gaming for a while. Or maybe I'm just biased because as much as I do digital gaming I don't want to see my physical games go by the wayside :p And yes, if you can get like a free trial I'd start there!
Have you made a video/guide on best way to install Game Pass on the deck?
Yup, you can find it here! ua-cam.com/video/fHzi6YB35p4/v-deo.html
Was it difficult to add game pass to the steam deck?
Not terribly! I'll have to make a tutorial video at some point but I think I used Polygon's guide here if this is helpful :) www.polygon.com/guides/23537216/steam-deck-xbox-game-pass-cloud-gaming-install-microsoft-edge-desktop-mode
I stream Gamepass almost daily on my Odin Pro. If I had a Steamdeck I would DEFINITELY just install them. But it's great for testing, sure.
I keep looking at the Odin but not sure if I'll take the leap. Crazy how the Steam Deck has slowly pulled me back into PC gaming after being predominantly a console gamer for so long :p As for Game Pass agreed- normally I'd want the native version UNLESS I was already deep in on the Xbox and just wanted to jump in to make a small bit of progress or something.
@@YourPlayer2 Oh at this point, I probably wouldn't do it. I'm pretty certain they will be releasing an Odin 2 at some point with a more up-to-date processor. But I've loved it personally for emulation and streaming. I love the size, the main thing that kept me away from the Steam Deck even now was always its size. I like smaller handhelds. And I fully respect and appreciate how awesome the Steam Deck is, but I truly feel like the Odin was more what I had in mind. And it's actually done marvelously for me. Thankfully streaming from Gamepass and even my PC games from my computer using Moonlight has worked pretty magnificently for me.
I think game pass is a great option for those on a tight budget. You can play a hell of a lot of games for very little outlay. It's not for me personally, I tried it and found I didnt really care to invest time in the games I hadn't paid to keep in my collection permanently . I'd rather pay for the game and add to my library.
Nice choice with Ninja Gaiden. One of my favourites.
Most definitely! I still think it's the best value in gaming overall, especially if you're just a casual player who wants to have fun occasionally and you're not sweating keeping up with EVERY new release in gaming. But I'm kind of in the same boat- Like I wouldn't want to make a ton of progress in Soul Hackers 2 and then be forced into a purchase if I couldn't wrap it up before it left Game Pass or something. And many thanks! I actually mention it in NEXT week's video as I'm really hoping the Ninja Gaiden collection goes on sale during the Spring Sale next week :)
@@YourPlayer2 I totally agree. Fingers crossed for the spring sale:)
Most definitely!
So the Deck can't play gamepass games natively? Because I'm thinking about getting one...but if that's the case I can do that on my Samsung Galaxy s8 tablet and my Xbox controller...
Oh well if that's your primary reason for exploring the deck then I'd stick with the tablet!
Game Pass on steam deck is pretty good, but only thing bugging me is the slight drop in quality or some blur when there's a lot of motion.
Yeah it's not PERFECT but it's a decent way to get at Game Pass
Yeah. Same case with iPad with an A14 chip. It was glitchy and lagged really bad. What I found worked was using Microsoft edge. Safari and opera gx will give you migraines.
What was that medieval-y game with the text boxes?
Pentiment
Yup, what JD said it was Pentiment :)
I barely notice any inputlag at all streaming gamepass on my steam deck. But I do have a gigabit fiber connection and a really expensive wifi mesh system (netgear orbi pro, which I got on some crazy sale :P). I also don't remember ever seeing heavy artifacting like what you experienced there. However, I do feel like the colours are kind of muted? Of course, when I play Xbox it's on my oled TV so that's an unfair comparison, but also compared to native games on the deck it all looks kind of bland it seems. I would still play it more, if it wasn't for the fact I have like 50 times as much to play than what I have time for.
edit: what might help my experience as well is living in the Netherlands... we're pretty small and I'm almost 100% sure the server will be in a datacenter in this country (for proximity to AMS-IX if nothing else), so signals don't have to travel that far. Combined with great internet infrastructure and it's probably one of the best places you can be to stream games from the cloud.
LoL JEALOUS! :p Weird I was JUST thinking the same thing working on one MORE Game Pass video for next week. Just seems kinda, flat or something? Not sure. Improving infrastructure is the big hurdle for really getting streaming to take off methinks. Thanks for taking the time to watch another one, Fin :)
@@YourPlayer2 You can mitigate it a bit by using decky plugin VibrantDeck to increase colour saturation. I like that for all games now actually, but gamepass streaming can use a little more. Not a complete fix of course, but it helps.
I am curious. How is installing Gamepass games and play them on the steam deck?
Well you can't install game pass natively in Steam OS but you can stream them via Xbox Cloud streaming :)
Do you think gigabit internet may solve the input lag issue?
Well, I guess it depends on if your current local network is a bottleneck but I'm not 100% sure honestly. I would think it would be more dependent on your modem's connection speed?Might try an internet speed test to make sure all that's looking good but also make sure to minimize any other streaming traffic on your local network when playing. Sorry if that sounds obvious :p
My analog sticks don’t work on it. What did I do wrong? I set the controller profile.
Hmm, hard to say as I haven't encountered it but it might be helpful to try the steps once more. Here's a link to MS's guide if that's helpful :) support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/xbox-cloud-gaming-in-microsoft-edge-with-steam-deck-43dd011b-0ce8-4810-8302-965be6d53296
Im glad to have it but i really wish the resolution was better maybe its my wifi it plays great response time is great no stutter super smooth but it looks sub 720p and has a slight blur to it especially noticible in bright colorful games
Yeah it's FAR from perfect but in a pinch a nice way to make progress when you're away from your primary Gamepass machine for sure!
I do not find Game Pass on Steam... How do you play on Game Pass and Epic and GOG ? Do you install windows and dual boot or what ?
Well I have a video about installing Epic here - ua-cam.com/video/9vXYFjlgJtg/v-deo.html
For Game Pass you're basically adding a non-steam application that's a webpage where you login to stream games- I'm working on a tutorial but here's the guide I used from polygon :) www.polygon.com/guides/23537216/steam-deck-xbox-game-pass-cloud-gaming-install-microsoft-edge-desktop-mode
Can you download a game off of gamepass pc to the deck? Not sure if you mentioned or not
Not natively unless you have Windows installed unfortunately.
Gotcha thank you. would you recommend getting a stream deck or a ally if my majority of games is gamepass then
@@rtsmiitty2157 If the majority is Gamepass you might consider the Ally! Having them natively installed is definitely a better experience and the Ally certainly has some increased horsepower :)
Thank you for your response!!
No problem at all :)
I have been debating to dual boot windows just so I can do both stream certain games and fully install games from Game Pass.
Certain games I can stream, I don't mind one bit since allot of the games I play cloud wise are turn based but stuff like Sea Of Thieves or multiplayer based is different personally and to have them everywhere would be nice.
I'd like to TRY a dual boot at some point, but if possible I almost wanna hold off until I get a second Steam Deck some day. I know I could always factory reset if I REALLY screwed things up, but since I lean on it so heavily for channel work I'm hesitant to try anything too ambitious and leave myself without capture capabilities for a few days while I fixed whatever I screwed up :p Oooh I still haven't tried Sea of Thieves on Deck but would LOVE to give it a go!
I have game pass ultimate but I just bought a year worth of keys for it on ebay for 40 bucks, ends up less than 4 dollars per month this way
Oh wow I'll have to look into that! KILLER savings over the regular price!
It's a real shame that MS will probably never allow local install of Gamepass games. I've been more Xbox heavy lately, and not really playing anything other than Gamepass games, so I've not bought any games on Steam for a long time. I'd love to play a lot of those games offline without having to buy it again. I have the same problem with my Switch, I hate buying the same game twice (or if I already have access through Game Pass) so my library on it is really limited
It sure would be nice to do it natively on the Deck OS! Works pretty well on the Ally though.
I did some gaming nights with a small group of people playing Halo on my iPad using streaming and it worked fine. Single player games are good too. The only thing is sometimes games leave the service so if you don't have the time to devote to it you might lose access before you finish.
Oh that's awesome! Kind of a modern interpretation of a LAN party :p But yes, I definitely share the concern of games leaving the service because I'm CONSTANTLY jumping around from one title to the next and I'm sure at some point I'll try to hop back into a game only to find I missed the boat and it's already left Game Pass.
What is the game shown at 9:28?
That would be The Ascent :)
@@YourPlayer2 awesome, thanks a ton!
Damn you made me wanna try ztomic heart it look so nice and i just got a new tv after 9 yrs 😂😂
LoL well congrats on the new TV and if you give it a shot lemme know what ya think!
Which Game is that in 4:46?
That would be Soul Hackers 2!
@@YourPlayer2 thank you 👍
@@Dragongard You're most welcome! :)
Don’t have an Xbox, but having the option is nice
Agreed! I feel like I've really only scratched the surface of my subscription but maybe I can test more scenarios in the future.
What game was played at 2.26 looks great
That would be Generation Zero! :)
@@YourPlayer2 excellent thanks, I'll give it a blast
@@irish1759able no problem and hope you dig it!
I would still love to see GamePass for PC in Steam. I use it through my new PC (didn't even realise it came with my Xbox GamePass sub until recently lol) but being able to download and actually install to the deck, especially smaller indie titles that I otherwise end up just paying for through Steam, would be brilliant. It's the one last thing Microsoft NEEDS to do. Imagine the amount of new PC game pass subs they'd get. Maybe Valve doesn't want this though, as it might mean less sales for them on games that are on Game Pass?
Dude SAME. I mean it's not TOO many hoops to get streaming working but would LOVE to see them release a native version of on Steam. Probably wishful thinking at this point but I can dream :p
Wish they would make a app for it
I know right?! Here's hoping one day it'll come to fruition.
I had gamepass then bought a steam deck it's added but I use my steam deck more
Oh for sure- I think it's a great compliment to the Deck but by and large I'm still playing natively installed games via Steam.
Switch the user agent in edge from Linux to windows you'll get a better streaming quality
Thanks for the heads-up! I'll definitely be looking into this and screenshotting for reference later :)
9:25 What game is this?
The Ascent
@@xromy111x thank you!
Yup, what xromy said it is The Ascent! Though admittedly I haven't spent a TON of time with it yet :p
There doesn't appear to be aim assist when playing games like fortnite using the steam deck. Might be seeing my steam input as a mouse even when in joystick mode..
That's a good theory! I hadn't really noticed this before but definitely something to keep in mind if you're used to it.
Can you play MLB the show 2023 with game pass on the steam deck?
Should be able to! That hits Game Pass today doesn't it?
@Your Player 2 I think so, if not sometime this week, but I have never seen anyone make a video on UA-cam playing MLB the show on the steamdeck. I wasn't sure if Nintendo Switch had the right to it
XCloud needs to get rid of that annoying eight-dot interface overlay in the upper left of the screen…really takes you out of the immersion, especially on the 7-inch screen of the Deck. At some point, I hope they add the ability to let you stream all your personal Xbox owned games over XCloud, not just Game Pass.
Yeah I mean it's not a DEALBREAKER for me but it would be nice if it could be even further recessed into the border or something ya know? AND YES- I was searching through to see if I could just stream ANY digital game I'd purchased but did not appear to be the case, sadly. They'll probably make that a function in the future at a higher-price I'd guess.
@@YourPlayer2 Yeah there had been some rumors that XCloud streaming of all your owned games was coming but hasn’t yet. Keep up the good work…good stuff!
Love GamePass, it's going to be a killer year in 2023 as well with Benedict Fox, Planet of Lana, Atomic Heart, WoLong Dynasty, Forza, RedFall, StarField and please... dear god HellBlade 2!
Enjoy it while it lasts. Game sales are tanking bc of game pass, so it won’t be around for long
@nicholas You have no idea how GamePass or subscription services work lol.. guess netflix DVD sales are plummeting.. It's all over I guess says some kid on UA-cam said so with no degrees of any kind. 30 million people and growing fast all paying $10-$15 dollars a month, have you done the math yet? These sony simps eating a lot of paint chips these days.
Most definitely! Tons of solid titles on there and love when games like Hi-Fi Rush just shock drop outta nowhere or getting to play MS's latest on day one :)
Oh I DEFINITELY will! I don't think Game Pass will go away anytime soon personally, but I CAN see the price increasing the same way video streaming services have ya know?
I don't mind if you debate the merits of GamePass in the comments but please DO be kind to each other, yeah?
Gamepass...
can you also play your xbox games on it without being subscribed to gamepass ?
I think you need a gamepass subscription
I wish Microsoft would work with Valve and have a partnership for Steam gaming
Maybe someday!
I thought it would only work on windows? X
Streaming from Game Pass will work on Deck :)
So sad that my country do not support gamepass on cloud we have only pc gamepass😢😢
Aw that's a bummer- hopefully they'll bring it to your part of the world someday!
@@YourPlayer2 I wish that too.
Hey. Anyone still here? What game is this? 7:32
Yup! That would be Soul Hackers 2 :)
@@YourPlayer2 Thank you! That art style looks pretty cool. I might want to look it up.
@@OGxFr0stBit3x you’re most welcome! :D
Shame that I followed the complete tutorial, copied ans pasted everything, Sadly didn't work. But it was definitely worth a try.
Gah, sorry to hear it- I've had people say it works fine and others hit snags with the copy and paste. You might try doing it manually or following MS official guide here - support.microsoft.com/en-gb/topic/xbox-cloud-gaming-in-microsoft-edge-with-steam-deck-43dd011b-0ce8-4810-8302-965be6d53296
Rog ally allows Native Gamepass
It does indeed! Tunic was one of the first things I installed :p
Game pass has never appealed to me. I prefer to own my games. But I respect what it offers to people who don’t want to afford their own game collection.
I can see that- as a big physical collector myself I appreciate its convenience but always prefer to own games outright where I can :)
The problem is none of the game saves sync with your steam library. Geforcenow is much better in that regard, and all Xbox games are now coming into Geforcenow eith better streaming capabilities.
Good point! I've never used Geforcenow before but that DEFINITELY seems like something I should look into.