Ironically, the Battle of the Gullet was probably Otto’s greatest achievement and the Green’s biggest victory. Rhaenyra’s heir and a capable leader was killed, the Blacks lost another dragon, the Velaryons lost their wealth and and a huge portion of their fleet, and the Triarchy ultimately collapsed. All while the Greens didn’t lose any Westerosi forces.
"If God grants us the grace to lose such a battle again, Your Majesty can count on all of his enemies being destroyed" - Marshall Villars words to king Louis XIV after the battle of Malplaquet
It echoes what Pyrrhus of Epirus said after the battle of Asculum. "If we are victorious in one more battle with the Romans, we shall be utterly ruined". And yes, that's where "phyrric victory" comes from.
RIP Jace, he went out on dragonback like his brother. Sucks what happened to little Aegon. This traumatized him and shaped how the rest of his life played out.
Cregan stark isn’t exactly the best character witness. Man did the absolute least for his allies, and just waited until the situation was the most profitable to show up. How much could he have really cared for Jace when he doesn’t march till well after his death? This man didn’t March till 131 AC for gods sakes.
@@visupreme2757well yes they already confirmed that the battle of the gullet will be in season 3 but that means they need to have 10 episodes for the next two seasons because a lot happens after jace death
They definitely had a lot to offer. Jace would have been a great king but I think his power would never be secure. There would always be a divide and those who doubt his parentage which is fair enough the evidence does not look great. Regardless he had the makings of o Jaehaerys or Aegon I level king
Me to. I do wonder how and why they let Viserys ii live as a captive instead of just destroying the ship he was on like they did to many other Valaryen ships
@@Thrawn23. He is a targaryen. Doubtless they would have ransomed him to Rhaenyra had she won the war or made a gift of him to Aegon the 2nd in exchange for a reward.
Only solace I get from this was Jacaerys slew scores of triachy sailors before falling(I previously thought he died without killing a single enemy).A true soldier’s death💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
I bet he would ve been a A-quality King. Not violent and neither prideful. But smart and cunning, beyond not being a drunken fool like the rest... Fortunuly his lil's brothers were great kings later
They will probably add Rhaenyra in way more war scenarios, that's cool and imo this battle would be perfect, It would be so sad but imagine her loosing another son just in front of her eyes
To be honest I think the moral of the dance is no one walked away winning abs everyone lost. Houses lost influence and the crown itself was damaged, but I do think House Velaryon lost more than most
I mean yes and no it started to be the end once laenor died he was the last TRUE Veloryon heir and his "kids" definitely should've died too like the Lannister bastards
@@happycake2234 not really if u are talking personally about alicent she got her due yes rhaynera may have died but she and daemon left behind a legacy not a great one but still a legacy unlike cough cough alicent who loses all her family and children and dies alone which is great revenge from rhaynera.
i find it ironic how alicent who was all about womanhood and family raise her children terribly (one a drunk, another a psycopath, and another married to said drunk (daeron seemed fine but he was raised away from alicent). In the meantime all of rhaenyra's children turned out perfect
Perfect those bastards took aemonds eye usurped driftmark from house valeryon aegon is drunk but he refuced the throne first he became king for his family , aemond lost his eye so he wants revenge they did nothing wrong
@@debamlyabanerjee4067 Corlys Velaryon wanted Lucerys to succeed him as Lord of Driftmark. He knew Luke was a bastard but Corlys wanted Luke to follow in his footsteps. That's up to Lord Corlys, if he wants to put his adopted grandson on the Driftwood throne. Plus Luke died in the end, he never got to be Lord of the Tides. So nothing was stolen from the Velaryons. And even if he did live through the war, and became the Lord of the Tides, he would have married Rhena and had children with her. Thus, Luke and Rhena's children would have Velaryon blood from from their mother and would take the Velaryon name from the father. Making them Velaryons. As to Aemond losing his eye, that was a mistake. He didn't join the fight just to take Aemond's eye. He reacted on instinct to save his brothers life. If someone toke your eye by mistake in a fight, would you take their eye as payment on a debt for losing your eye.
@@davidking7750 nah! Bro greens are punchable in the books also. There are very few morally good person in the green sides. Barely one or two. Daeron, halena, just it. Maybe borros baratheon. But in the blacks section We have all rhanyra's strong boys, his boys with daemon were also good but that's not much related to this story, then we have baela, rhaena, adam of hull, alyn of hull, kermit tully, Oscar tully, bloody ben, etc. The difference is huge bruh!
He died because he dived too low and Vermax was still young. A much larger and older dragon wouldn’t have gotten tangled or gotten caught by the graphook.
The wealth of drift mark should have been moved to dragon stone along with most of the women and children. Also, they should have attacked the triarchy with their ships first and dragons once it their fleet was softened. Vermithor was enough if anything.
3:23 back when hugh and ulf were still good loyal people. Rhaenyra should have sent them to the stepstones to carve out their own kingdom and burn down the three cities of the triarchy. They are after all the most cruel and vicious of the 4 dragonseeds
Bro you're the only one that knows how to make the ads not skippable. There is a way you can skip ads that people dont know about, and all your videos dont allow it. In the bottom left there is i with a O around it, you click that, hit stop seeing ad, click why, then close and bam ad skippped, in 2 seconds, before the skip option even comes up. Or instead of waiting. But your videos don't give that option. Drives me nuts! But atleast you're getting your $
@@WorldOfWesteros so the normal skip I could do where there's a countdown and then it tells you after 5 or 10 seconds to skip that's fine but I have another way where you could skip it that a lot of people don't know about and you hit that little circle in the bottom left and you could kind of bypass the ad before it even gives you the chance to skip and I figured you somehow bypassed that to you know collect the most Revenue off the ad because you can't skip it could be just a coincidence that it happens on your Channel other major channels like major msm or something like thar it's the same thing for theirs too. But also most of them don't even have the skip like after the countdown you just have to wait the 15 seconds and then maybe the second ad will have the the skip but like I said there's a way you could bypass it that a lot of people don't know about what that little circle with the i (i) in the middle by clicking that and bypassing it but I can't do that on any of your ads which is fine cuz I don't think you're supposed to be doing that anyway
It's sad but well written, how the targeryan' s only death & downfall lead to the drama in the original series., as dragons & 🐉 targaryan warriors can't be alive in the GOT world. Heartbreaking actually! Just imagine how many much more lives could've been saved if there were as many dragons 🐉 when the white March south.
prince jacearys shoud havewait the dragon seeds to attack and not go whit only his small dragon, but at the end, he was just a teenager seeking to revenge his brother...
@@Jacaerys1 shut up aegon ii fight his own battles that weakling jacaryse rivers just fought one battle and died with 5 dragons everyone can fight in battles but just killed by normal people who doesn't have any dragons that is a weakling and was a bastard
@@rummyz6412 he is no prince because his parents are not married so he is illegitimate child of princes so he can't have targaryen family name and doesn't have any claim on iron Throne Or dragonstone
@@debamlyabanerjee4067 All true but they lost soo many ships in a lopsided manner that the triarchy fell apart and never reunited again. In fact they went to war with each other soon after. It was at best a kamakasi attack on their enemy . One they never recovered from.
@@applemathe3209 sunshine, Jace has to die, his body was found in the books. Every Targ dies with the exception of Aegon III and Viserys II. Their deaths can't be altered. Just like Rhenyera will get eaten by a dragon because it was witnessed by pretty much every Lord of the major and minor houses.
Obviously, it’s tragic enough when most people die but I’ve always been an animal person. Imagining and seeing how these dragons meet their end is like a punch to the gut.
Where’s Daemon when you need him😤? He wasn’t in that fight over the Gullet… inexcusable! That’s a mistake for the Blacks. Caraxes is probably the most deadliest dragon by experience, speed/ agility, power. Vermax inexperience and goofiness ultimately got him and Jace killed. Of the course the dragon seeds were out there too fighting but Jace was the greatest loss at this stage. He didn’t have to be out there for them to win that battle. Who’s making their decisions 😤 they took too many L’s even though they actually Won that battle 😅😢.
The blacks win a battle, lose a battle. The greens win a battle, lose a battle. The point is that by story's end, no one truly won. Both sides do evil things to win, yet neither does. Not truly.
most of the comments are talking about house velaryon, which is another house (along with house targaryen) who hailed from old valyria, however they are not dragonriders. the velaryons are still valyrians. the names are too similar so i understand the confusion 😂
I hope they'll change his story to be like jon, he's also not much of a character in the books but he ended up being the main one in the game of thrones
What? No...Corlis fought the Triarchy in the battle of the Stepstones years before...he wasnt aligned with them at all. The Triarchy fleet were aligned with the Greens, who Corlis hadn't joined at that point.
It's often happens in Martin's world. Like i said even in this story and others like Aemon ( son of jahaerys and previous rider of the dragon caraxes ) died shoot by one of the assassination who tried to kill Lord tarth .he doesn't even know whom he killed. His dragon caraxes was eating goats nearby. And after some years baelon the brave ( rider of vhagar) his brother died of burst belly. And what about Robert baratheon - one hell of a warrior who takes iron Throne almost ends the mighty house and killed one of the best targeryen warrior - rhaegar. And many many others knights as well killed by a boar. There are many characters who died that way.
I actually hope they keep Jacaerys alive in the show. It doesn’t make sense for Rhaenerya to loose 3 of her children while Allicent looses none, considering the focus the show has placed on them.
Ironically, the Battle of the Gullet was probably Otto’s greatest achievement and the Green’s biggest victory. Rhaenyra’s heir and a capable leader was killed, the Blacks lost another dragon, the Velaryons lost their wealth and and a huge portion of their fleet, and the Triarchy ultimately collapsed. All while the Greens didn’t lose any Westerosi forces.
“If this be victory, I pray I never win another” I can’t wait to hear that in HOTD it’s such a powerful response
You know the actor playing Corlys has the freaking voice to pay that off too lol
"If God grants us the grace to lose such a battle again, Your Majesty can count on all of his enemies being destroyed"
- Marshall Villars words to king Louis XIV after the battle of Malplaquet
It echoes what Pyrrhus of Epirus said after the battle of Asculum. "If we are victorious in one more battle with the Romans, we shall be utterly ruined".
And yes, that's where "phyrric victory" comes from.
RIP Jace, he went out on dragonback like his brother. Sucks what happened to little Aegon. This traumatized him and shaped how the rest of his life played out.
Aegon II lived in his head 😂😂 poor kid
Well there's that OTHER thing that traumatized him for life even more lol.
@@SolarDragon007 I wanted to make a very bad joke, but I didn´t want to spoil it for people who are only here because of the hotd show.
@@maxomat4319i mean to be fair if theyre coming to this video then theyre already asking for spoilers essentially so just go for it
@@maxomat4319HOTD watchers avoiding spoilers will not be found watching a video which discusses future book events
Jace could have been a good king, plus Cregan Stark actually like him
Cregan stark isn’t exactly the best character witness. Man did the absolute least for his allies, and just waited until the situation was the most profitable to show up. How much could he have really cared for Jace when he doesn’t march till well after his death? This man didn’t March till 131 AC for gods sakes.
A lot of crying for us in future seasons. I hope my soft heart can take it.
Lmao it ain’t that sad😂
I don’t think I’m going to be able to 😭 probably have to take breaks
I think jacaerys will probably die in the next season in episode 10 since he died at the Middle of the dance,so we wont get to Know.him That much
@@brunoperez5062 nah season 3 episode 3 or so prob
@@visupreme2757well yes they already confirmed that the battle of the gullet will be in season 3 but that means they need to have 10 episodes for the next two seasons because a lot happens after jace death
His death just killed the build up of a great character
Yeah he was becoming one of my favorites
RIP Jace. I like those Velaryon boys. They deserved better.
They definitely had a lot to offer. Jace would have been a great king but I think his power would never be secure. There would always be a divide and those who doubt his parentage which is fair enough the evidence does not look great. Regardless he had the makings of o Jaehaerys or Aegon I level king
Strong boys
@@amitkenan3878 Strong's bastards*
strong boys
Strong boys
Damn nothing goes right for the Velaryons, this is red wedding levels of pain.
The faster you rise the faster you fall.
Aurane now rules the stepstones
And all because of Corlys being a fool.
I love that Aegon III's dragon saved his life.
Me to. I do wonder how and why they let Viserys ii live as a captive instead of just destroying the ship he was on like they did to many other Valaryen ships
@@Thrawn23. He is a targaryen. Doubtless they would have ransomed him to Rhaenyra had she won the war or made a gift of him to Aegon the 2nd in exchange for a reward.
Saved his life? He’s the most valuable political captive in the setting. He’d have been fine.
Only solace I get from this was Jacaerys slew scores of triachy sailors before falling(I previously thought he died without killing a single enemy).A true soldier’s death💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
Bet Jace didn't share the sentiment as water filled his lungs
@@equusquaggaquagga536 Probably didn’t feel anything seeing as he’s not real….
Same. I think you too had referred to the GOT dubbed animated version of DOTD.
I bet he would ve been a A-quality King. Not violent and neither prideful. But smart and cunning, beyond not being a drunken fool like the rest...
Fortunuly his lil's brothers were great kings later
So Brave killing people with his dragon lol! The men who took him out were the real brave ones
They will probably add Rhaenyra in way more war scenarios, that's cool and imo this battle would be perfect, It would be so sad but imagine her loosing another son just in front of her eyes
Jace was one of my favourite character and I was very sad when I read about his death. He could be a great king as Jaeherys I was
He was Strong . Too Strong
This is a sad one 😢 it could really spell the beginning of the end for house lVeloryons power and influence .
Oops did spell the end of there power and influence
To be honest I think the moral of the dance is no one walked away winning abs everyone lost. Houses lost influence and the crown itself was damaged, but I do think House Velaryon lost more than most
Agreed, the only major player who walked away almost unharmed was house Hightower.
I mean yes and no it started to be the end once laenor died he was the last TRUE Veloryon heir and his "kids" definitely should've died too like the Lannister bastards
@@happycake2234 not really if u are talking personally about alicent she got her due yes rhaynera may have died but she and daemon left behind a legacy not a great one but still a legacy unlike cough cough alicent who loses all her family and children and dies alone which is great revenge from rhaynera.
i find it ironic how alicent who was all about womanhood and family raise her children terribly (one a drunk, another a psycopath, and another married to said drunk (daeron seemed fine but he was raised away from alicent). In the meantime all of rhaenyra's children turned out perfect
The story is balanced almost perfectly where each faction doesn't have a definitely moral high ground. I love that. It's very tit for tat.
Perfect those bastards took aemonds eye usurped driftmark from house valeryon aegon is drunk but he refuced the throne first he became king for his family , aemond lost his eye so he wants revenge they did nothing wrong
@@debamlyabanerjee4067 Corlys Velaryon wanted Lucerys to succeed him as Lord of Driftmark. He knew Luke was a bastard but Corlys wanted Luke to follow in his footsteps. That's up to Lord Corlys, if he wants to put his adopted grandson on the Driftwood throne. Plus Luke died in the end, he never got to be Lord of the Tides. So nothing was stolen from the Velaryons. And even if he did live through the war, and became the Lord of the Tides, he would have married Rhena and had children with her. Thus, Luke and Rhena's children would have Velaryon blood from from their mother and would take the Velaryon name from the father. Making them Velaryons. As to Aemond losing his eye, that was a mistake. He didn't join the fight just to take Aemond's eye. He reacted on instinct to save his brothers life. If someone toke your eye by mistake in a fight, would you take their eye as payment on a debt for losing your eye.
@@davidking7750 nah! Bro greens are punchable in the books also.
There are very few morally good person in the green sides. Barely one or two. Daeron, halena, just it. Maybe borros baratheon.
But in the blacks section
We have all rhanyra's strong boys, his boys with daemon were also good but that's not much related to this story, then we have baela, rhaena, adam of hull, alyn of hull, kermit tully, Oscar tully, bloody ben, etc.
The difference is huge bruh!
If you think Rhaenyra's kids are perfect then you are insane. They are violent, bullies, and overly sensitive.
This is one death that I would be okay with them altering
I wonder if Jace would have survived if he’d claimed a far larger and older dragon like Vermithor.
That fool died dispite having 5 dragons
He died because he dived too low and Vermax was still young. A much larger and older dragon wouldn’t have gotten tangled or gotten caught by the graphook.
He was a fool for showing up anyways on his small ass dragon that isn’t ready for war yet. They had 5 with them they def didn’t need Vermax at all
@@fouff925his dragon was no smaller than Daenerys’s dragons and they all did well in the books and show.
@@Jacaerys1 u will see his dragon being relatively small, just watch. Drogon would never die to a crossbow. Crossbow is different than a scorpion bolt
His character remind me of Robb Stark
kinda a mix of robb and jon
Kinda yes
He is Jon without the plot armor.
@@Jacaerys1 haa
The wealth of drift mark should have been moved to dragon stone along with most of the women and children. Also, they should have attacked the triarchy with their ships first and dragons once it their fleet was softened. Vermithor was enough if anything.
Poor ol' Jace
Jace was getting some great development but his death made it all feel so wasted
Thank you! This is so interesting.
Glad you enjoyed it
3:23 back when hugh and ulf were still good loyal people. Rhaenyra should have sent them to the stepstones to carve out their own kingdom and burn down the three cities of the triarchy. They are after all the most cruel and vicious of the 4 dragonseeds
trusting them in any capacity was always gonna be a risk but at least your way gets them out the way
@@WorldOfWesteros yea send them and dalton greyjoy--all they have to do is kill and burn
She also needed them on the mainland so she could press her dragon advantage
The next year the triarchy fleet returns with two dragons
And neither the dragonriders are great admirals to begin with
The king who never was 😢
Bro you're the only one that knows how to make the ads not skippable. There is a way you can skip ads that people dont know about, and all your videos dont allow it.
In the bottom left there is i with a O around it, you click that, hit stop seeing ad, click why, then close and bam ad skippped, in 2 seconds, before the skip option even comes up. Or instead of waiting. But your videos don't give that option. Drives me nuts! But atleast you're getting your $
I'm looking into this because i've not run in to this before, thanks for highlighting this.
@@WorldOfWesteros so the normal skip I could do where there's a countdown and then it tells you after 5 or 10 seconds to skip that's fine but I have another way where you could skip it that a lot of people don't know about and you hit that little circle in the bottom left and you could kind of bypass the ad before it even gives you the chance to skip and I figured you somehow bypassed that to you know collect the most Revenue off the ad because you can't skip it could be just a coincidence that it happens on your Channel other major channels like major msm or something like thar it's the same thing for theirs too.
But also most of them don't even have the skip like after the countdown you just have to wait the 15 seconds and then maybe the second ad will have the the skip but like I said there's a way you could bypass it that a lot of people don't know about what that little circle with the i (i) in the middle by clicking that and bypassing it but I can't do that on any of your ads which is fine cuz I don't think you're supposed to be doing that anyway
Jace probably would’ve been a great king
It's sad but well written, how the targeryan' s only death & downfall lead to the drama in the original series., as dragons & 🐉 targaryan warriors can't be alive in the GOT world.
Heartbreaking actually!
Just imagine how many much more lives could've been saved if there were as many dragons 🐉 when the white March south.
I guess lots of things will be changed then, because Vycerys and AIII are still babies.
prince jacearys shoud havewait the dragon seeds to attack and not go whit only his small dragon, but at the end, he was just a teenager seeking to revenge his brother...
He is not prince he is also a dragonseed and a weakling died dispite have ade from 4 other dragons
@@debamlyabanerjee4067he was no weakling he didn’t hide from a fight or take his status for granted. Now Aegon the second, that’s a weakling.
@@Jacaerys1 shut up aegon ii fight his own battles that weakling jacaryse rivers just fought one battle and died with 5 dragons everyone can fight in battles but just killed by normal people who doesn't have any dragons that is a weakling and was a bastard
@@debamlyabanerjee4067i mean u can call him weak if u want but calling him not prince is deadass a lie like what r u talking abt 😭😭
@@rummyz6412 he is no prince because his parents are not married so he is illegitimate child of princes so he can't have targaryen family name and doesn't have any claim on iron Throne Or dragonstone
I will not be able to handle Jace death in the show.
If you think this has a happy ending......
You haven't been paying attention.
A wise man
Ramsay bolton said 😇🤣
Truly, he was of blood and fire, not salt and sea.
the triarchy sailors think they were about to win the battle whem three giant dragons apeared in the skies above...
They technically still won the battle though 😅
@@acarvahal1995 This battle broke the triarchy forever.
They lost soo much they never really united again
But still they crippled 50 percent navy of blacks
@@drrohanjacob they killed 1 dragon and bruned there arch enemys castle and wealth
@@debamlyabanerjee4067 All true but they lost soo many ships in a lopsided manner that the triarchy fell apart and never reunited again.
In fact they went to war with each other soon after.
It was at best a kamakasi attack on their enemy .
One they never recovered from.
No worries the series will change from the books. The one that die maybe survive.
they dont change deaths
@@wetdog_8887 maybe they do to service fan girl
@@applemathe3209 your telling me Jace will live
@@applemathe3209 sunshine, Jace has to die, his body was found in the books. Every Targ dies with the exception of Aegon III and Viserys II. Their deaths can't be altered. Just like Rhenyera will get eaten by a dragon because it was witnessed by pretty much every Lord of the major and minor houses.
@@nazimuddin5122 ok
Omg, where did you get the new art from
I think i found it on pinterest. I'm updating my art source list over the weekend so should be on there shortly
Obviously, it’s tragic enough when most people die but I’ve always been an animal person. Imagining and seeing how these dragons meet their end is like a punch to the gut.
Where’s Daemon when you need him😤? He wasn’t in that fight over the Gullet… inexcusable! That’s a mistake for the Blacks. Caraxes is probably the most deadliest dragon by experience, speed/ agility, power. Vermax inexperience and goofiness ultimately got him and Jace killed.
Of the course the dragon seeds were out there too fighting but Jace was the greatest loss at this stage. He didn’t have to be out there for them to win that battle. Who’s making their decisions 😤 they took too many L’s even though they actually Won that battle 😅😢.
He was having his way with nettles
His mewing streak is finally over
When you like a character, they die
Daemon never die. Nobody found body. The series will change ending.
Wow the black just losing every battle , hate that the show got you to like one side just to see them lose everytime
The blacks win a battle, lose a battle. The greens win a battle, lose a battle. The point is that by story's end, no one truly won. Both sides do evil things to win, yet neither does. Not truly.
His death was anticlimactic…. I wished a better death at least by a dragon fight
How does the battle end in a draw when you have 5 dragons
First character that uses my name and spelled the same way 😢
Your name is jacaerys?
@@vymancross3551 LoL 😆
Vermax and Jacaerys’ deaths are going to be both tragic and a cgi masterpiece.
Man! Just imagine 60 warships vs velaryon fleet and 5 dragons.
Bang!!!!!
How do you spell Valyrians? Why is it all different in the comments? Can someone correct me lol
most of the comments are talking about house velaryon, which is another house (along with house targaryen) who hailed from old valyria, however they are not dragonriders. the velaryons are still valyrians. the names are too similar so i understand the confusion 😂
House name is velaryon.
And the old city name is valyria
I hope they'll change his story to be like jon, he's also not much of a character in the books but he ended up being the main one in the game of thrones
No he is nothing like Jon
Jon is leagues better in the book
I think i am Not ready for jaces death 😢
Blood an fire
Jacearys has a most boring death and I was expecting something more.
Rip. Pretty abrupt and brutal in the show.
So Corlis men just killed Jacerys his supposed grandson?
What? No...Corlis fought the Triarchy in the battle of the Stepstones years before...he wasnt aligned with them at all. The Triarchy fleet were aligned with the Greens, who Corlis hadn't joined at that point.
He is not corlys grandson
@@debamlyabanerjee4067 say it
@@aerystargaryenii2565 daemon is not here and even he was i don't Alfred to die
@@aerystargaryenii2565 i have jaime Lannister
I would have prefered jace die in a dragon vs dragon fight….. arrows is a little anticlimactic
GRRM really gave some bad anticlimactic deaths to some Targeryans like Jacerys and also Daeron whose death felt so random.
@@Att964 that's life
Most of the deaths is like that in this story.
Like daeron, ulf, hugh, etc.
It's often happens in Martin's world. Like i said even in this story and others like
Aemon ( son of jahaerys and previous rider of the dragon caraxes ) died shoot by one of the assassination who tried to kill Lord tarth .he doesn't even know whom he killed. His dragon caraxes was eating goats nearby. And after some years baelon the brave ( rider of vhagar) his brother died of burst belly. And what about Robert baratheon - one hell of a warrior who takes iron Throne almost ends the mighty house and killed one of the best targeryen warrior - rhaegar. And many many others knights as well killed by a boar. There are many characters who died that way.
@@Noone91875 the show will probably make it more dramatic
I actually hope they keep Jacaerys alive in the show. It doesn’t make sense for Rhaenerya to loose 3 of her children while Allicent looses none, considering the focus the show has placed on them.
If Jac survives, its a bad story telling and not true to the books
This is not a disney movie
Jace has to die so Rhaenyra's kids with Damon (Targaryens from both sides) take the throne further in the story which is a mayor plot point.
Jace will be a main focus on s2 but they will def kill him in ep 9/10
That's kinda one of the things of Rhaenyras character, she keeps loosing people
Well allicent did lose all of her chilfrem