GY6 Scooter Tip: When to change your CVT belt / High RPMS
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- Changing the belt within the transmission of your scooter can be a guessing game. There are tell-tell signs that you should change it before you are left stranded.
You're a hair away from reaching 60mph!!
The effect of wear and tear is incredible. I didn't expect to see pieces of belt coming off. Good thing you caught it in time, before the S N A P.
I like that the color on the display changes when you pass 50mph ;)
Oh she will hit 60, just didn't want to push it on that road. I want to keep the bikes...lol. That 50 mph color change is for a speed warning to remind me not to be dumb. The roads around me are losing speed on their limits. Woodward is down to 45mph, could have sworn it was 50mph just last year. City subdivision streets are getting speed bumps, every 30 feet. Lots of people making mistakes and getting killed. Not trying to add to that stat.
@@kachiskid UGHHH yes!!! People are obsessed with these darn speed bumps. I don't really think they work, and they just get in the way of cyclers. I actually see cars speeding even more around my neighborhood
Really? Well I heard if the city finds out that they are still speeding they will make them even higher. It all stinks...
I just turned 200 miles on Boot Scoot. Everything is still working great. My neighbor made some comments in the past but, after he ended up behind me, he realized I wasn't lying about it going over 50. Now he's trying to talk his wife into letting him get one. I hope he doesn't plan on us being riding buddies. That ain't happening! 😊
Haters are gonna hate. That is what they do best. Don't worry, if he's got to ask his wife...he's got no chance....lol.
@@kachiskid right! 🤣🤣🤣
@@kachiskid No offense on ALL wives, but what's that about "asking a wife"? Is she paying for it?
@Who's Your Daddy, you really made me laugh!!! You're like - nope!!
Hey buddy goodnight 😴 bro
If my belt didn't snap. I never would have found this channel. My belt started slapping the cvt cover at max speed and the rpms were through the roof. The top speed was great though. So, apparently I can't get away from these scooters. My friend just gave me a 50cc gy6 Icebear.
The scooters won't let you go. What are you gonna do to that Icebear?
@@kachiskid I was thinking about building up to go 50 mph all day. I know its possible. Its just finding time and money. I just bought a Jeep so I've been playing with that lately.
I wish you had shown us how to put the belt on. Like what parts to take off and which parts to leave on.
I did give you a thumbs up anyway.
Thank you. I think I have a video on that. Give me a day to check.
I just got 12000 miles on my 2009 Kymco Super 8 150 and replaced everything in the CVT with Malossi gear and am totally happy with the quality, I don't know if the original owner of my bike ever had anything replaced I imagine he did so when I got it with just over 4000 miles on it I got 8000 miles without any CVT issues. I'll see how Malossi parts hold up, from what I've heard there really good.
Malossi are some of the best. I can't afford them, but really like the Taida name brand. They haven't let me down yet.
Any updates?
@@dovydas4036 well I'm up to 12600 miles on mine now and Malossi parts doing well no problems
Chasing Lambos and Corvettes .😂👍👍☝️
Lol. Hope doesn't care what make or model, she doesn't like to be challenged.
to do that you need a r1 or a fireblade haha 👍
Many times when the belt snaps while riding you won't know but your crankshaft suffers a slight shift and after that your bendix or starter gear starts binding while cranking until it breaks and if you only change the bendix it will break again until you find metal shavings in your oil from the piston rod bearing, so if you get a belt snap you should change your crankshaft also before it puts stress on your starter gear, bendix, ,,,,all because of a belt snap, thats why it's best to just change the belt at 4000km like the book says even if it looks good.
Great info brother.
🌟Sorry for the late comment been feeling under the weather 🤕. That's next on my agenda, clutch tuning, coming soon to a garage near me LOL Salute & Safe travels bro 😎
Sorry to hear that bro. Hope you are feeling better.
@@kachiskid No worries thanks bro ! Up & running, figure I would due the 13grams . I was going to ask is doctor pulley sliders better ? Or should I go with the round sliders ?
Thank you Sir. Very good video. I learned a lot.
No problem John. Glad I was able to help.
Thanks for your videos, from Peru!! Regards!
Peru? Whoa...nice. Thank you!
@@kachiskid I install a after market air filter en is choking the hell out of my bike acting like a choke
@@kachiskid now I bought a uni air filter and let's see what happens
You now I bought a 842 20 30 en the nut keep coming out when I turn the bike on the nut start coming out
@@juliodiaz4493 you might have to rejet the carb. Do you have the original exhaust or a high flow exhaust?
That seems to be a Koso or a DLH variator..They work pretty good as i have it..not the way they come...I replaced the plate that holds the guides by a much lower one..Set the plate on a flat surface and compare it to a reg gy6 150 cc variator plate..The Koso or the DHL plate is much higher and it puts too much pressure on the belt because it is intended for racing ,not for everyday use..I am using 16 g and a soft contra spring with a regular plate and it is the best set up i have found..My belt is an 842..I have been using a polybelt out of New Jersey and they last me longer than the fake gates from Ebay.Amazon or Ali express..You should try it and see it for yourself..I smear the variator hole with motor oil and the rollers and the variator posts with shell Zinc additive and it is the best way i have found..I love this set up..You have great take off and excellent top speed while the revs are low..Hi revs on an air cooled engine don't work for me..I use my Eagle 150 cc from 5 to 6 hours non stop and the temp on the head never exceed 100 F, not even in Florida Hot weather..I've been using a crankcase hose and it helps a lot..I also installed a fan to cool the head and the exhaust pipe and it has been excellent..I hope this helps...
Great write up, where the heck are your video's? Your the one that needs a channel. Where did you get that Zinc additive idea? A fan to cool the head? Where can I see your bike?
@@kachiskid This is all my own tests..The info i gave you is the results of my tests..I know i should have a channel,but not for now..I am still doing a lot of tests to prove chinese scooters are not bad..My Eagle is at about to reach 100000 kms...And yes i have replaced more than a few parts..but the warrior is still alive and kicking..Thanks brother..My Eagle does not look good..I am about to replace all the fairings..It is a 2014 and i put at about 100 miles 5 times a week at least doing Uber Eats...I use a 50/50 mix in the gas..i only use 87 octane..no need for higher..I mix Lucas fuel treatment/'Pennzoil 2 cycle marine plus.. Blended...I add to the gas as needed..Usually at about 5 ml per gallon..My endoscope do not lie..The piston top is clean as when new...I use a cold spark plug. Instead of the 7 y use the 8 by NGK..Best spark plugs for gy6..They last forever..Never a failure..I also mix my own oils..I use semi sinthetic to get the best of both...I buy 10 W 40 at walmart..usually Super Tech..and mix the conventional and the synthetic 50/50...I also add 10 or 20 ml of High mileage STP oil treatment to protect the seals from shrinking..The best oil you can get out there is the Rotella T6 15 W 40 fully synthetic..
Let me know where i can send you the pictures of the fan and the weather proof switch..
This is the link for the fan..Choose 12 volt 3000 R.P.M. 0.45 A
Gdstime 12025 5V 12V 24V 48V CPU PC Computer Case Fan 120x120x25mm 2PIN 3PIN 12cm Laptop GPU 120mm DC Cooling Fan Ball/Sleeve
These exhaust pipe gaskets are excellent..Install it to the head with permatex ultra copper silicone..
10 Pcs Exhaust Muffler Pipe Gasket Rings For GY6 50cc 110cc 150cc Scooters
Excelente video! 👏 Saludos desde México
Gracias mi amigo
I would like to get another of those belts the one that comes from factory they good that belt dont brack 5675 miles still going
Yeah, I haven't had a problem with belts breaking except the original. Is that 5675 miles or K's? I think K's so 3,526 miles.
The only difference I could really notice with my 150 between the 835 and 842 is that rpms rise quicker with the 835. I put a new 835 on, it seem to help me out with the bridges. Because usually if I don't hit the bridge in high speeds, my speed will drop too much going on. Well, at least with the 842 and the stretched out 835 stock after 1000 miles. For the most part, the 842 is a replacement for 835. How's your R3 going? Im always juggling issues with my 150. The splines on the variator got stripped down a couple weeks ago. And I think It's about time for a new battery. It's been dying and reading 20v lol It's not the regulator.
R3 is going GREAT! !st ride coming soon, just been too busy!
@@kachiskid check my video ex sport edition Julio diaz check my gy6
Right on! Nice video
Glad you enjoyed it brother.
HEY BROTHER HOW YOU BEEN?
I Finally got My Joint 😁 But I had to get the Quantum they didn't have the one like yours in stock.
2 questions.... Do these odometers read for mileage or Km's? I'm at 300 so I'm trying to figure out when I should swap out the Belt before it pops I've been through that Nightmare Twice on my one one... But you was Right This 150cc ain't Playing No Games 😁 To keep it 100 I actually be LEAVING PPL IN THE WIND BRUH 😂 ICU WIT THAT NEW THANG TOO CONGRATULATIONS REAL TALK 😊👍
BRO, great hearing from you! Glad to hear you got your bike! The odometer reads in Km's. Truth about the belt is this...if you are riding a "true" break-in period, the belt should last about 2000km's. If your "high rpming" all over town, switch to a Gates ASAP.
@@kachiskid Aiight good to know.... I probably won't even wait that long because I am not in the mood to dig a whole bunch of rubber from the CVT you feel me? 😂. But one thing I do love about the quantum it has the LED lights in the front so it's pretty much well lit up. I don't want to get rear-ended again
@@kachiskid I'm thinking 1000 before I swap it out
Yeah those running LED lights are out cold.
Sound good. It shouldn't break before then.
I changed my belt and my exhaust turned red and my rpm’s are crazy high what should I do?
Check your rollers, they might be worn down.
@@kachiskid I also just installed a brand new variator and rollers😂
Kid That power link belt they good o what
Anyone I deal with now is good. I go kevlar.
@@kachiskid I just ordered a power link let see how she holds up
@@juliodiaz4493 It will do just fine.
Excellent reporting job!
Thank you very much!
Sick man. The speed.
Yup, we are getting up there, and that wasn't even top speed. The road I was riding is a 45mph zone.
I need some tips bro. I had a bogging problem so I changed my carburetor. Everything was smooth til about 20 miles the bike wouldn’t let me go over 40 then I changed the clutch, cleared out. And back to the bike not letting me go over 40 I changed the variator the belt is good and I’m just stuck now .. any tips?
How is your carb. set up? Is it a CVK? Pod filter or under the seat hose?
That Bell that comes with the a bike from Factory that s*** holds up that a strong belt 😳 have 5000 miles en the belt still strong
Mine wasn't that great.
Amazing what a little wear can do.... Good call!!!
Thanks bro.
I just replaced my roller weights, I've got a bando belt on and it's in good shape... At takeoff my rpm are like 6-7k but at top speed which I gained 10mph, it's only at 7.5k. what's going on as I do like the change, I don't like the high rpm are cruising and takeoff, thanks
I had a similar problem. ua-cam.com/video/ZdHAdPfCn7w/v-deo.html
@@kachiskid yeah my rollers before we so flat on every side I was shocked but I used to run around 9-10k to speed now I gained 10mph and it stays around 7.5 pinned. Only word when on side streets and initial acceleration as it used to accel to about 4-5k. Long as it isn't redlining it's okay then huh?
@@Manwichman To me, yes. I don't like being over the redline on any engine.
Kid I want to change the Instrument cluster from my gy6 150cc for the one you're bike has i have the dash cover in chrome is the same Design of your bike has soo I'm asking you it shouldn't be a problem right
No, you should be able to do it with no problems. Have you ever open it before, when changing brake handles?
What size main jet you running with that air filter and exhaust, I got a 125 with a 150 head, big air intake standard exhaust but need to upjet
It does 63mph on GPS not sure if I should be getting more
Louis, I have yet to check the jets on my new carb. Unless you live in the same area as I do, the jetting won't be the same anyway. 63mph on a 125 sound about right. How much HP is it producing?
My sym has its original belt odo shows 6321km and the belt is is like new how
SYM is not putting crap on their bikes. They are Taiwanese, and make quality products.
Don't don't throw it away that old belt don't throw it away you never know that Bell strong
I kept it, just in case.
The longer belt rides out further on the disks giving a little more top speed.
The shorter belt seems to grab a little quicker at take off but you sacrifice the top speed for it.
I have 13" rims too, and like 10 gram rollers.
There's also larger 118mm "black maxx" Variator & Variator fan discs that will give you a little more top speed.
I think if you go 2 gears higher on your final drive you be really happy though..
I wouldn't go any higher without a Big Bore Kit because your launch speeds going to suffer for it.
With the 842 belt, stock piston, stock carburetor, 118mm variator, and 10 gram rollers you be topping out in the low 70mph range....which is pretty fast on 13" basketball wheels.
I will be looking up that variator, changing gears to 18/36. Engine isn't stock though, 171cc Taida engine.
How do you like the rollers compared to the sliders
I really see no difference.
@@kachiskid ok thanks wanted to change mine for quicker take off tht why I asked
@@ironhead320 yeah just go with about 2 grams lighter than what you're rocking now, and you should taking off pretty quickly.
sup buddy what was your springs rpm in this video.
Pretty sure I am running 3000rpm springs. If you have time, the answer is here... ua-cam.com/video/G8ITc4qUXC0/v-deo.html
Hey maybe you can help me I’m have a issue with my 50cc moped . My back wheel is not spinning. I changed the belt, Variator, and clutch and still having the same issue. I took off the cvt case and started the bike and noticed that everything seems to work but noticed the front part of the clutch that spins the wheel was not spinning. When I spin it manually the wheel spins but not when the engine is running, just the belt, back part of the clutch, and Variator. The clutch is new so I know the pads are not slipping, only thing I can think of is it’s not getting enough torque for the clutch springs to open the clutch to catch. Your thoughts please.
This one is hard, let me give it some though...but first need to know if you are talking about the variator as the front part of the clutch? Also so if you jack the bike up and have the back wheel off the ground, while hitting the gas, does the tire spin then?
@@kachiskid no it still doesn’t spin. I can see the belt, Variator, and back part of the clutch spinning but it’s not engaging at all. I wish is a way I can show you, and when I mean the front part clutch, it’s the part that the clutch pads are suppose to open and grab so the back tire can spin. When I turn it manually it spins the back tire.
Can you record a short video and send it to kachiskid@gmail.com?
@@kachiskid Figured it out my valve needed adjustment it was way off
Um sir your rpms was still the same ‘in the red’ but that’s normal when your doing 50mph the engine has to spin that much
Unless you gear up… change the gears slightly but I don’t know if you have enough horsepower to do that…
Lol. You'll find out, this summer.
I installed a new belt on my gy6 scooter now I don’t have any power any advice on how to fixed it?
I would check to make sure the fuse connected to the battery is not blown.
@@kachiskid thanks
@@kachiskid thanks that worked
@@truckercai3571 No problem.
Hey kid ...not to auestion your judgement ,but why does everyone else tells me 835 20 30 kevlar ?oh ok I just watched your video ...I getit thnx
Because both work. Always question my judgement...lol.
I have yamah nmax 125cc 2020 reg got it in March 2020 brand new. I've noticed it is not reaching top end speed and acceleration is poor. I do throttle it about at high speed everywhere, I've covered almost 9,000 miles and have never replaced the CVT belt or Rollers. Do you think that's the problem? I'm not a hands on guy with that kind of stuff. Just know how to ride
BW, I was under the impression that the Yamaha belts are so good that they don't need to be changed as nearly often as mine. 9000 miles? Bro really, that is a lot! Please confirm when Yamaha recommends that belt and rollers be changed. You are on the right track though. Is this bike fuel injected or or running off a carb.?
@@kachiskid I checked the manual. It does say that under normal use the belt shouldn't need to be replaced until 10,050 miles. That's under normal use though. I do throttle mine about everywhere. I brought it in March 2020 brand new, almost 10,000 miles on the bike in less than a year. I've been everywhere on it, very far journeys, in all weather condition. Maybe it needs the valve clearance, it's definitely lost power
@@brentwatts6130 You could check the valves but that normally is indicated with hard starting. I think if you replace that belt and rollers you will get your power back.
Is that a new starter ?
Yes...yes it is...lol. Good eye!
I bought a 842 en the screw get coming off it fits bud screw keep coming off when tight the screw
What screw? Do you mean the nut that holds the fan?
@@kachiskid yes
👍
Thank you.
Getting a ride to get tire replaced tomorrow morning
Awesome. What name brand tire are you going with?
@@kachiskid continental was supposed to be put on but the Kawasaki shop broke my rim so have to wait a couple days for them to fix it going to call them tomorrow see if I can get a loaner bike so I can go out and make some money or see if I can just bring em the rest of the bike and they just use that as a down payment on a ninja
Broke your rim? What is going on over there???
@@kachiskid just my usual bad luck apparently they don't know how to change a tire
@@aocleader Good grief!
Kid what kind of belt you recommend brand
Gates, are pretty good.
Malossi
These belts shouldn't wear so fast Im having the same issue when I hit 60 for a minute the belt exploded 😅 but I carry extra belt and tools at all times so 20 min later back on the road but shit feels funny honestly so now back to the drawing board
Darn, that isn't good to hear, what type of belt did you get? Kevlar?
Change the spark plug it still don't want to go on
The spark plug goes in at an angle.
Lambos betta look out!
Just ran down some guy on a Harley, he was like WTH?
Mine i replaced every 2000miles
Very smart!
My cvt got really hot the other day and took a poop on me for about an hour
Really? How did you know it was running hot? Was there any damage?
Tell me something for you could help me out
I can help but I don't know what is wrong. Make a video, and post it with your problems, so I can see them. Let me know when you do.
@@kachiskid I'ma send you the video I ordered the the starter for a for our case is that
If that's not it. I order The battery
if the belt was a 835 surley you shud put same size belt back on
Why? Both are built for my bike.
Nothing on this bike is stock.
@@kachiskid ive a 200cc scooter a 2016 bike i bought new the drive belt 835/20/30 so when i change it i put same size belt on so will it take a 842 i dont no
@@peteneal5914 Oh, sorry about that Pete. I would go with the same exact belt that was on the scooter. What type of bike? Is it a Gy6 engine?
@@kachiskid yes gy6 even tho its 200cc only does 80 but i bought it just to get about on as a daily bike its good on fuel tho but uk fuel prices are shocking £8 gallon
You need bando belts or nothing
Further explanation is needed. Why Bando? Spokesman?
@@kachiskid most reliable and last two to 3 times any other blet out there
I will check them out.
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I'm sorry, I don't quite understand.
Gachi I bought a 842 and it fits but the crew comes back off when I star bike th screw and I started the just come back of
What screw? Are you talking about the nut? That holds down the fan or the clutch?