Women accusing OUR founder Tim Ballard of sexual assault speak out
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- Опубліковано 20 лис 2023
- Speaking publicly for the first time, five women suing Operation Underground Railroad founder Tim Ballard for allegations of sexual misconduct and assault said he and the nonprofit need to be held accountable.
The women contend OUR leadership and board members knew about internal accusations of sexual assault against Ballard and did nothing to protect them or stop his alleged behavior.
Celeste Borys, who served as Ballard’s executive assistant and frequently traveled around the globe with him, and the four other women also said they had never seen a single child rescued on any OUR operations.
The women filed a lawsuit in October alleging that Ballard would in some instances fly women who would be posing as his wife or partner from across the country to Utah, because he wanted to hone their sexual chemistry for the so-called “couples ruse.”
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Video by Bethany Baker of The Salt Lake Tribune.
Why do these woman sound so dishonest? It’s like there reading something that never happened?
I didn’t see any tears?
You're a female and can see and feel their words and make this opinion about their allegations. Meaning, that coming from a female's point of view and not believing what they are accusing him of works to Tim's advantage.
Strange how none of this was known to exist until the movie did,isn't it?
Right
lol these women are all liars, its coz the sound of freedom made millions, all fake tears lol
A charismatic serial adulterer in the Mormon church 😂 no way!! Lol
This is how allegations work. It takes time and akso when victims see their abuser going large scale they may get the push to finally Crack down so the falsehoods and the abuse and power didn't continue.
exactly
I believe he, Tim had to know that this was coming! He stirred the most vile, evil, and morally corrupted stew ever! These people exist and are powerful enough to destroy him.
Some of his film is exaggeration. He changed ages and stories. Not everything is an attack on the film. Get real.
@@KayDejaVu f’n ya mum is as real I can get!
Exactly what I replied to a brother who spoke of this allegations in fb.
They won’t destroy Tim Ballard God is on his side doing the purposeGod gave him saving kids. These woman should be ashamed but they are workers of evil trying to take down Good. Good always wins
NO ONE is bigger than God!!
Innocent until proven guilty. Anyone can say whatever they want but doesn't make it true...
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Wow
YES, exactly!
Yes, but when a bunch of people say the same thing, attention should be paid.
Gee i wonder who paid her to read this story.
I don’t believe a single word. Of course they are after him after exposing the truth. All I can see is fake tears 🤦♀️
This you Tim?
@@julianyc422definitely not.
I agree. Every single time a movie like this comes forward there is always some women coming forward with shit that doesn't make sense.
You're either in denial bc of your own abuse or very ignorant to how predators work and what victims look and sound like.
@@ATiredMom I’ve never been abused and I am aware of predators. Those are adult women that could’ve left. Everytime a person tries to expose the ugly truth, people come forward and try to discredit.
Interesting how none of this came out until now (after Sound of Freedom)and Interesting how these women are reading this stuff out of pages instead of looking at the camera and talking about their allegations. The crying is so fake! I wonder how much they got paid or threatened to lend themselves to do this.
Why are these women coming forward after Sound of Freedom? You think it’s for money? Not arguing, just trying to understand your POV
@DrawWithMeASMR-LIVE Either that or they've been threatened but I'm pretty sure it is most likely that they were paid.
These allegations predate the movie 🤡
Tim is a target!!! He has arrested high profile people. So sad 😫😫😫
False. Don’t be misled. This is a reoccurring pattern where these monsters promote themselves as heroes while behind the scenes they’re the villains trying to mask themselves. Look at Jimmy Savile as a perfect example. A well-liked media personality. Rendered a hero for the contributions he made to help kids. Ran a school to help kids…meanwhile behind the scenes he was doing nasty things to those kids including relations with their deceased bodies. There’s many people like this. Tim is one of them.
@@jamesdoakes4956no he’s not.
@@lasvegashula of course he is. Just because you don’t want him to be doesn’t mean he’s not. You can’t just morph reality to your liking. You got duped by a bad guy who did good things. It happens all the time. It’s not our fault we got duped. But it’s definitely a problem when you’re in denial about it
@@jamesdoakes4956 and how do you know any of that
@@egemen2543he doesn’t just speaking out his ass
Thank you for speaking out! !I believe y0u. .
I applaud your strength and speaking out !
You wait until he exsposes human and child trafficking. Then come out ???
Right. The 1st accuser claims she was with him for a year, even involved in operations around the world using the couple's ruse, but never came into contact with evil?
Who was she using the ruse on?
And is that the "duper's delight"* @4:03 ? Or just impromptu duck lips while reading such a serious allegation.
*Typical flag for deception in smile/facial features.
Looks like she made more friends in these elite child trafficking investigations than she should have . I believe this will come back on them and prove to show how deep the deep state goes.
Yeah very convenient!
I can attest as a former mormon that sex abuse is rampant in that church.
They coddle men and ignore women. Get out now, you are being DECIEVED!!!
It took me 60 years to realize it bc I was indoctrinated as a child, a child who grew into a tormented alcoholic. That church hurts MORE people than it helps.
I have hundreds of true stories....I have a TESTIMONY :)
Consider who would want to slam Tim Ballard, and how much money they could easily pay "victims" to testify.
Why wait until after the movie? Thats what I want to know...
That might have been a good point if they had actually waited until after the movie.
They didn't. But they werent taken seriously.
@@Lyspunkt67That’s not true
Influential people behind here as Tim exposed their business. Theyll do anything to discredit him
@@EmperorofChinaItwillgrowlargeryes it is!
I’m all for women. As an abuse survivor, I’m sensitive to the nuances. I’m not buying it here. And I will always support women. But something stinks here.
Same here - abuse survivor.i call b.s.
I support the kids. Women can be evil as men
Why now,why after the movie,the movement...this seems like the devil's hands at work,as usual,n not saying I know,but something stinks horribly,like the old Staten Island Garbage dumps on this one...all respect Staten
I agree
Just a feeling right? A film came out so people are now after him right?
Okay, as someone who has been abused and assaulted myself, I feel great compassion for any real victims of abuse. I know its worse that many victims aren't believed. I have education in law, criminal psychology & court room litigation. None of this makes me an expert. It's tough to know the truth, yet legally the burden of proof remains with the accusers. It will come down to what a jury believes. Here are my observations in listening to all of the claims:
1. The timing of the accusers in bringing the allegations is a huge red flag. They brought a civil suit years after the alleged incidents took place. This makes them highly suspicious, especially when it is after a box office hit & millions pour in donations.
2. These women were all adults, one married, another an ex-marine who claims to have worked human trafficking operations for over a decade. They were all more than capable to immediately remove themselves from the "most horrific events" of their lives. Nothing was stopping them from leaving at any time, or at bare minimum, not traveling to state after state & continuing to expose themselves. That was willful. No amount of brainwash would stop a married woman or an ex-marine from seeking refuge, highly unlikely.
3. The accusers mention the millions of dollars & huge donors- another red flag that one of the primary concerns is the large amount of money. Why? If this is "the most horrific event of your life" it is unlikely you would be focused on the money.
4. All of the accusers are reading from a letter. The only one who spoke freely focused primarily on her disapproval of the interview process and homed in on the physical work-place injury. None of these point to sexual assault or misconduct! Odd!
5. They expressed disappointment the organization didn't "settle privately," but go on to say how important this case is to make sure that others are victimized. Wait, what?! You want to "speak *your* truth and make sure the donors and any future victims are protected" but you're disgruntled that it wasn't settled privately. That is a direct conflict of claims and needs to be taken into account.
6. They claim "Tim was the worst perpetrator of all." Really? He's worse than the pedophile's? He's worse than the human traffickers? I don't like abusers either, but even with the worst of their claims they still haven't proven he's worse than a pedophile. The accusation makes them lose credibility.
7. Accusers further claim that no children were ever saved? Hmm, that sounds highly suspicious and politically motivated. The OUR provided real footage of at least one major bust. To claim no children were saved makes the accusers look guilty of fraud & slander.
There are so many red flags here. One of the women admits her marriage has been broken since. Thats very unfortunate, but perhaps her husband felt betrayed that she didn't come to him for help immediately and instead continued traveling state to state with the man she claims assaulted her? The husband deserved to know that immediately. She still doesn't know why she didn't go home to her husband?!
I am not a mind reader, and I certainly feel that true victims deserve to be heard and given the benefit of doubt, but also Tim is innocent until proven guilty. These claims should be made in a courtroom, NOT in the public where all of the jurors can be tainted by their unquestioned press release! I feel strongly about abusers being held accountable and exposed, but this is harder to believe than most hollywood dramas. If I was OUR's defense attorney I would have a field day with this at trial. I will be following. What do you think?
Excellent argument
I think you are spot on, it's so easy to see they are actors.
Many of my thoughts are the same.
My eyes were crossed when the wife said she didn't know why she didn't go home to her husband... once an attack occurs, I would of Never stuck around and followed the guy from state to state. You made some excellent points of this situation.
I went to the Army reserves when I was 20 years old. I went through basic training and the first phase of my AIT (school.) The second phase was done at a third location. I was training to become an operating room technician. I was sexually harassed by my NCO (officer in charge.) About the third time, I called my now husband, who was my boyfriend at the time, bawling. Telling him I couldn't do this anymore etc... I packed my stuff and snuck out that night to catch the first flight home. True, I was only 20 so maybe being younger I was more scared and able to make the call to come home. However, the fact these women continued to travel with him is a huge RED FLAG. I think you're right about all of this.
The best way to discredit the movie Sound of Freedom is to discredit Tim Ballard. We are at a time in our society where women are supposed to be believed and men are all predators! Even if Tim Ballard is found to be innocent of all of these charges, his reputation will forever be tarnished.
The church denounced him too, he made up alot of shit he used this to cover his own shit, pretty sick
The church is implicated in nasty stuff which gives Time even more validity.
She still doesn’t know left from right.
And funding for operations will be affected.
@@jameswest360 Not true.
So let me get this straight, the second lady told some people, and then she stopped working for Tim. Then her dad died, and she "blocked" most of it out , but then remembered it all after hearing the music from sound of freedom? Yeah im not buying it.
Didn't VICE do this to Russle Brand too ? I don't believe them.
Yes
This has happened so many times. Any evidence? Just allegations? Her crying doesn't convince me. I am suspicious of everyone. Ten times assaulted, and stuck around.
why does she have to read what happened to her?
This is a statement. She's not reading what happend to her.
It’s called a “Prepared Statement” for a reason genius.
Not saying they are all liars, but who needs a prepared statement unless they have poor memories?@@MacM15
This just doesn’t feel right. I don’t think all that is said here is true. It’s strange about the timing. It feels like the cabal is getting these women to say this all at the same time.
How so? Why would the cabal care about some random women from the U.S.?
“Cabal” LOL. QAnon isn’t real. Trafficking occurs, but not in the fantasy version you apparently have in your imagination.
The church also denouced him they found out alot about the guy.
What “timing” exactly?? These allegations came out YEARS before the movie did 🤦♂️
jameswest360 If MORMONS don’t want him, you know there’s an issue 🤷♂️
Prove your allegations in court. Anyone can say anything, doesn't make it true.
Hear, hear.
True but that doesn’t stop the QAnon kooks who rally around Tim Ballard.
Having a hard time believing this. Why now. After all this time Tim was traveling, saving kids.
@@H93736 How many kids has he saved?
@@EastSide-qc5oyI think the movie said over 120? There may be more tho
What exactly did he do? They just say that he hurt them but what is the truth. What are the actions he did?
It really seems like she was given a piece of paper and to say what was written .
Exactly. I can see having bullet points but these girls are straight up reading. If this happened they would
Face the cameras and remember easily.
I agree about she was just given a piece of paper to read. If it was so traumatizing to her and the others, they wouldn't have to read no paper at all. To me it's just a bunch of allegations and lies because Tim Ballard is a man of God and a father to his children and a husband to his wife.
1st: The former marine didn't read from anything.
2nd: When you aren't a hardened operator, like a marine, most people are unable to deliver a monologue in an important, high-consequence situation, off the cuff. Think about it,; have you ever watched a Senate hearing? Every guest starts with reading a written statement that they prepared ahead of time. This helps ensure they do not misspeak and that they cover all of the intended parts and statements for their testimony.
I think you understand this. I think you, @user-is3tx9eo6c (if that is even your real name 🤔...TIM!), you just want to stir up conspiracy and doubt in the accusations, without any real cause to do so.
and be pissed off about it. They seem too nervous, like they are "lying" for $$$$. The demons who traffick children and run adrenochrome $$$$ lab$ spend all their energy covering up their crimes. They got the bribe $$$$$
ALL victims sharing their testimony write out their statements ahead - because of the emotional impact of needing to share such humiliating information in public. You should be able to figure that out.
In the beginning when she asked for a tissue 😂 for what? She wasn’t even crying
Something definitely sounds off
Why am I having flashbacks of the Brett Kavenaugh hearing?
Yes, all Tim needs to do is cry and act offended so people feel sorry for him.
@@theresa922 There are also women coming out and saying they were sexually assaulted by Tim when they were traveling with him while he was speaking on tours. They also said they did not see him save one child.
Was he sued in court like Timmy?
Such a creep. He played everyone so well and to think many are still falling for it. @@alexandrasymeon5893
alexandrasymeon5893 💯💯
The first one sounds like an affair that didn’t go her way. No tears just simpering
I’m a survivor of sexual assault, this term is very important legally. My abuser had a professional and legal responsibility to protect me, colleagues don’t meet that criteria so what are these women actually claiming? I can’t imagine the price people pay to go undercover with the scum of the earth in order to rescue trafficked children, but I’m grateful to those who try. Does anyone doubt the need to make these bad people believe you’re one of them to infiltrate and ultimately end their organization? Are these women claiming that OUR isn’t actually in the business of rescuing children but rather a ruse for one man to abuse women? I have no personal or professional connection to anyone involved, yet I see holes in their stories. First, the absence of the term “Rape”. This is extremely significant and it’s obvious these women chose their words wisely. Second, the woman and former marine stated she was physically injured in a training accident. That seemed to be her chief complaint. Did she file for and receive workmen’s compensation and is she claiming Tim Ballard was responsible for the accident? Were training accidents common? None of the other women mentioned any. Third, their biggest harm appears to be a result of being put in extremely dangerous and sexually charged situations. That couldn’t have been a surprise, especially since Tim Ballard apparently was very open about this during their interviews. I don’t believe Tim Ballard is a perfect person. I don’t think anyone could do this work without suffering mental and emotional trauma. I don’t claim to know anything for sure, but if I wanted to stop someone from shedding light on my multibillion dollar criminal enterprise this is how I’d do it.
The Salt Lake Tribune posted an article on October 10th “Read the lawsuit 5 women filed against Tim Ballard”. There is also a second lawsuit, posted October 11th by KUTV, titled, “Second lawsuit filed by married couple against Tim Ballard alleges sexual assault, financial misconduct”. Both contain the affidavits of all complainants in full.
Also, you’re not asking the right questions:
1. Why did Tim Ballard need a ‘couples ruse’?
2. Why would he single out naive women with no undercover training (as a civilian working for a police agency, I would NEVER be asked to take part in something like this…it would be reckless, irresponsible and a potential liability to the organization)?
3. How many children did they actually save? Where are they now? Why have none of them come forward to tell their stories? In an interview with Fox, Tim said many of them were adults now and he was good friends with them. He said they would be coming out to tell their stories soon and it would be ‘awkward’ for mainstream media who were questioning his (and OUR’s) intentions. That was FOUR MONTHS AGO. Where are they?
4. Why has everybody in his inner circle (the LDS church, Glenn Beck, Tony Robbins, Jim Caveziel, Marisol Nichols, etc) either distanced themselves from Tim? Why have his books been pulled from Deseret Books?
If I didn't have to get ready for work, I could keep going with the questions you SHOULD be asking.
@@echomikekilo63 Answer to #3: From reported info I've read in the now 3 filed lawsuits and news journo investigations, it's been difficult to confirm any children have been saved and that Sound of Freedom is said to be fictionalized from stories he gathered and took from other legit anti-trafficking groups (he never really had credentials to do them) and; that Tim really only did 1 rescue that didn't go well besides the Mardy Gardy failure. Could be why none will step forward. He's showing himself as a talker not a doer. Hence, his recently launched FREEDOM protein shake powders 😢
@@echomikekilo63 "You're not asking the right questions because they poke holes in the story! Ask these pointed questions intended for character assassination!" - spoken like a prosecution lawyer.
1. To sell the grift to the traffickers. An undercover agent is more believable with a female partner, for the exact reason you are believing these women's statements.
2. You ASSUME naivete on the part of the women. They were hired for their ability to act, and convince random men the authenticity of their story - clearly Ballard picked women who were skilled, considering they are so effective you're willing to dismiss any and all skepticism and immediately condemn. We can only hope all human traffickers can be convinced as easily. You might not have done that in a law enforcement agency, and that is literally THE reason OUR exists. To get the traffickers that law enforcement can't get to.
3. There is quite a bit of released footage from the trafficking busts. There are many news stories across a variety of countries. The rescue in Cartagena, Colombia, portrayed in the movie was widely reported. OUR also participated in Operation Vesta. Furthermore it isn't even the only rescue operation that Ballard has run. The Nazarene fund rescued people from Afghanistan during the withdrawal. If you honestly think that an organization with dozens of employees, interacting with dozens of law enforcement agencies across the world, for a decade, was just a front so that one guy could trick his way into the pants of some women... I think you need to cognition recalibrated a bit.
4. False accusations destroy reputations. Part of that process is partners, acquaintances, friends, and even family distancing themselves from the accused. Maybe some of them are waiting for proof to come out before making statements of condemnation and conviction like you are.
Perhaps we should also ask why these women are only filing civil cases? And ask why only the most recent charge, made this month, is being investigated (as it should be) -- while other accusations against Ballard and OUR have been investigated and subsequently dismissed without charges?
@@DaveMastor 🙄
It's very clear you haven't read the plaintiffs' statements.
What exactly are they claiming that he did? No specific allegations were stated in this press conference
Because it's all lies set forth to discredit him and this movie.
@@teddystiltner5612movement* forever about the movie that’s juss a add on hes save over 10000+ children,woman they’re out to get him she’s reading a script she looks like Biden 😭🤣🤣🤣💯🎯🎯
that's the weird thing. They say they were sexually abused, but their definition might be far different than actual sexual abuse. who knows.
@@teddystiltner5612 Oh yea. You idiots will follow him to the water and drown.
I am not listing to your "facts." @@teddystiltner5612
Play it out in court. Alot of people can be deceptive for many reasons. No man, or woman should be convicted by words. I saw a report that claims lap dances, showers and sexual assault. I dont even know who Tim Ballard is or who these women are but I won't believe someone just becasue they are a woman. My own brother at 43 STILL HAS to file as a sex offender bc when he was 18 he dated my 16y/o friend. She got mad when he broke up with her, this was in the yr 2000. His lawyer advised him to take a plea cuz if she sheds one tear, a jury could believe her. Took a plea for CSC 4th degree (unwanted sexual touching) ti guarantee no jail time. My brother wouldnt hurt a fly. Not accusing anyone of lying but this, just like all other crimes, should be proven. Theres alot of reasons people may lie.
Exactly, people get accused falsely. O Lord, Tim Ballard has been rescuing children so anything to bring him down with his movie. Only God knows the truth. It happened with Brett Kavanaugh - during his Supreme Court momination so I don't believe these women. America is a rotten nation with such gabbage. O God, save us from lies. To be honest, I am not an American but watch from afar. Liars with crocodile tears and sniffles.
I'm sick of the war on our men and boys. My son had a girl he went to school with LIE and sat he assaulted her. I hired an attorney and she was given a cease and dessist letter. She admitted she lied, my son was devastated by this lie. I don't trust these women at all!
M'kay. You have a pre-existing bias against any accusers of sexual assault AND you know nothing of the case. Gotcha.
Yes it needs to be played out in court! I'm not convinced....
Something else to consider: When you realize who Tim Ballard was going after - people that even the FBI will not prosecute - remember that we have Ghislaine Maxwell's client list, yet no arrests are being made. Anyone with their head on straight today knows what level of people the pedophiles are. They're in our government, especially at the highest levels.
It would be far more surprising to me if no one was trying to slander Tim Ballard...think about it. What would some of the wealthiest people in the world do to silence, scandalize, and malign a guy who goes after their kind?
The first woman seemed a bit inconsistent to me. If she comes unglued just reading a statement, how does she hold up under the conditions of working for Ballard? And she worked tirelessly, night & day? Didn't sleep? When was there time for harassment? OK, a bit of exaggeration, but why even mention that? What does it have to do with being assaulted? That aside, my bet would still go to the more obvious likelihood that people with lots of money need this guy trashed, and can afford any price and set up to do it.
I don't believe a word of what their saying, they should be ashamed, wonder how much they've been paid
Paid?? Like how men who pay tithes are forgiven for molesting kids
Follow the money. The 1% elites who benefit from the global sex trafficking ring have endless money to throw around.
Wow. Glad to hear from someone who was in those rooms with the women a Tim and just knows 100% what happened. Even willing to shame potential assault victims for it.
Until I see any REAL HARDCORE evidence from these alleged "victims" proving they were in any way sexually assaulted by Tim Ballard they are just that: an alleged "victim" with their own "testimony"
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Is there any actual evidence to back their claims up?
VICTIM testimony *IS* evidence 🤦♂️
@@eriv4735 Actually, no.
A person just saying "he raped me" doesn't make it true.
@eriv4735
A person telling a story about someone doesn't make it true.
gamemediafan1714 It’s still evidence, kiddo 🤡
@@eriv4735no! That’s called hearsay,
only true evidence… witnesses, DNA or known character and motives are considered true evidence
Where's the lawsuit? Why isn't linked? I want to read that.
The board had plenty of chances to settle these issues privately. The Board is disappointed this has gone public. Boo hoo for them. I'm even more appalled by the board of OUR than I am by TB. They couldn't see past the money and the fame.
The LDS church are even more disappointed that this has gone public!
@@delphoeneevenhuis5199 I agree. The LDS church fully supported this vile organisation and Tim Ballard. They gave details of wealthy tithe givers to OAR so that it could target them to become donors. The recently desceased Elder Ballard is on tape recommending OUR to a wealthy member, and introducing him to Tim. Stop funding OUR and remove A.G. Reyes from office. He knew everything.
The LDS church leader turned over and died. Bet his last words were “over my dead body will this go public”.
God will not be mocked!
@@delphoeneevenhuis5199oh yes let’s blame the church for this. Really? Grow up.
@@binmyrtmind He used the name of high officials in the church that ok this.. AND used the name to say it's ok to basically rape and traffic these woman in lds name ect. AND th church ok this. They do play a big part in it. Now they want to run and stick their head in sand as usual saying nothing Just like when the naacp sued and lied and said oh gosh god gave us a vision and it's ok now. Just history of lies since beginning so yes the church needs to admit their part. Especially the ones he met all the time and put money in this FAKE organization
Vocally and bod language just not matching the words
The full truth is a double-edged sword....let both sides be heard.
Due process isn't important!! We must condemn now, before they have a chance to cross-examine and challenge the accusations!!
@@DaveMastoragreed. he deserves capital punishment without due process.
I am struggling to understand what happened to them? Only one person actually gave a brief overview of what happened and it sounded more like a work place safety organizational problem that yes is absolutely terrible and needs to be fixed, but Tim wasn’t the one who gave her the injury.
The first woman ended her statement insinuating that Tim created the company to prey on the women who work there - it’s just far to elaborate.
And my last point I struggle with is how they all discussed their shame for coming forward and how embarrassing it was, but it was important for “their truth” to be heard and at the end of the day they’re warriors for doing this… and that they all had the same thought process at the same time to go public
Now that’s not to say they aren’t telling the truth but for me that’s no where near enough evidence to just destroy a man’s life completely and stain his reputation forever.
If they’re going to televise snippets like this, the entire thing should be so we the general population it is misleading to only show or discuss just one side of the story
Good point, seams like they are struggling to read "their thruth".
Simple go do actual research. I used my critical thinking skills it's easy. One thing I did is watched 3 different practciing lawyers read all the court public available records what happened for one that's a start. It's just ignorance many ppl love this predator and just listen to others that do calling these women. I'm disgusted by the active men being so ignorant. Remember you don't hear about csa or adult sa or abuse because the secret bishop line to the lawyers tell them secret then the pedos keep abusing others becase of this. This is a lived experiencee. PLEASE learn the facts not just Tim the predator. He lied exx communicated stole money and abused women and men
100% agree!!
He has been implicated before any of these women stepped forward. Where there's smoke...
I thought the same thing, there are no specifics. Tim is exposing a great evil, he will be targeted.
I'm certainly not going to defend Tim as I don't know anything about him or any of these events, but from what I've heard Tim was removed after this behavior came to light. They provide zero details that prove OUR was aware of or a knowing participant in the actions of Tim. They name zero names of anyone that "allegedly" knew of Tim's acts. If' it exists why isn't that info provided. The only name mentioned is Tim's... the guy who got fired. Wouldn't there real beef be with the people that "knew and did nothing"? Who are those people and why are their name omitted? This to me is an important detail that is barely mentioned and seemingly glossed over each time that it is. Seems to me they don't know of anyone... So, with Tim being removed, I do find it odd that these women are seeking to take money away from an organization that was founded and appears to have done good work. I don't blame them for being pissed off, if the allegations are true. It is curious though that "someone has to pay" and clearly the only one with the "ability" to pay any real money is the very organization that fired Tim for what he did. It seems they aren't as dedicated to stopping the evil of child trafficking as they'd like everyone to believe. This is a sad story all the way around.
Is there any truth out there? A movie comes out about trafficking and then people come out to slander his name. So what happens now, the kids that are being hurt are now forgotten about because of this? I don’t know if they are telling truth but now it’s the children in the shadows once again.
Did he actually rescue any kids? Where are they? Why have none of them come forward to share their stories and endorse Tim's work?
This all happened and was brought to OUR top boards long before his movie came out. People act like TB is famous. Literally only UT people know him. You very rarely ever hear about him out of UT or mormonism.
@@MacM15He’s well known all throughout Cali where I’m from, as well as here in WA state.
If these huge number of accusations prove to be true (undeniable evidence), I hope n pray he gets life in prison or quietly & quickly taken-out & disposed of. Hard to believe the amount of accuser’s that have come forward, would all be so brave to do this publicly just to discredit an “innocent” man….
Sounds like a special ops should happen in Utah, while finding a true man of God with unshakable integrity to replace such a vile man with the mind of twisted-manipulation & epic-corruption; if proven guilty…
Yep. That’s “their” playbook.
@@echomikekilo63 How eager would you be to talk publicly about fat greasy disgusting men doing vile things to your body? They’re CHILDREN and their identities MUST be protected at all costs!
I do not know who is right or telling truth. I do not understand why any of these women did not come forward to either tell someone or just quit working for Tim Ballard if he was sexually hurting them or any child. God knows and the Bible says, your sin will eventually find you out! Saw the movie and Jim Cavesal did a great acting job with Script about Rescue of these Children .
That's an act....she is using to many signs together.. her face and voice don't show real emotions 👁️
"Can I have one of those please??" "My body was reacting without my mind fully understanding why preventing me from functioning at my normal causing me to lose clients and a job..." Are you effing KIDDING ME!?
TO be fair, a couple's ruse is not necessary... it's even more unnecessary to GO WITH IT! If you are that naive as an adult... my God. If he did anything, these women are far more guilty.
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Lots of victim-blamers and shamers in this comment section (and some of the comments are quite cruel).
I find it ironic (and not at all surprising) that the same people who called critics of Tim and SoF 'pedos' and 'sex traffic supporters', are now loudly defending an accused sexual predator.
Riddle me this: Would you speak to sex-trafficked women and children this way? Would you call them liars? Say THEY should be punished? Demand they provide evidence?
Your hypocrisy is telling.
The idolatry of "people" is so disappointing. This man isn't Jesus. The best of us fall, why would he be any different. Justice is coming
OUR has been around for a while now...why is this just coming out and show the damn proof!???
They wanted to keep it a private matter...probably didn't want the embarrassment and humiliation of going public, until now when it's necessary. Didn't you listen to their testimonies?
No, Tim was just announcing he was going to run for a Senate seat that Mitt Romney s Son wanted to run for. So destroy Tim Ballard and now OUR!!! 2 pluses. One for the Romney's and two for the child predators.
Tim Ballard enabled by at least:
1. Unobservant & Complicit Wife
2. Utah AG Sean Reyes
3. LDS Church & R M Ballard
4. Spinless local media adoring TB
5. NDA's
6. Threats & intimidation
7. Appeal to divine authority
8. Angels Studios
9. OUR Board
10. Glenn Beck
11. Tony Robbins
I wouldn't put the wife as number one! She was probably one of the last to face the truth. When you have nine kids seeing the truth must be.very difficult.
@@annwood6812 I agree with that, however, she did a video in the last day or two with Tim, still backing him up. You would think she would see the light by now.
Thom Harrison too. Soencer in “Visions of Glory” He kept encouraging Tim and telling him he would be Prophet & Pres of USA
@@ArmyRanger28she could still be backing him (mindfully choosing to or just subconsciously) because that is the safest thing she can do to protect herself and children. I came from a large Mormon family with a narcissist father, then married a narcissist Mormon man also and began poppin out the babies at 20 yrs old. I can understand the wife/mother saying whatever she thinks will keep the man most stable even for the day. Ya live in survival mode and that makes u do things differently than u would otherwise. Many victims have spoken up about his narcissistic tendencies, and I doubt he turns that off when with his wife and kids. It’s more likely than not that they are victims too (AND still having to deal with him).
@@annwood6812as long as the wife refuses to believe her husband is a cheat, she is complicit. Same deal when a man molest his own children and the wife refuses to believe it. She's a huge part of the problem and this issue is plagued Mormon marriages and families since it was concocted.
Yea this is really hard to understand. Her complicity, not sure of. She made really bad choices.
That's what I say. Now regret sits in. Those husbands need to divorce these women
Serious question, are there criminal charges pending?
Yes. Go do actual reasearch and use critical thinking skills to learn the FACTS. Much more is about to hit the fan and all facts.
@@dystoniaawarness3353exactly. Tim is a pervert and the truth is coming out!
@@dystoniaawarness3353stop lying….there investigating and no charges currently
@@dystoniaawarness3353I haven't found any information of there even being a criminal investigation, only civil.
@dystoniaawarness3353 apparently you forgot the "e" in awareness!! 😉🤣
I bet Bill and Hilary Clinton are the Prosecutor's against Tim Ballard.
They serve Epstein Island and friends!
If they killed Jesus, what do you actually think that they are capable of doing to a guy like Tim Ballard and his Agencies and supporters?
Court, Evidence.... Let's Get To It! 😉
I hate this because people will look at sex trafficking like it isn't really a big deal or not really happening but it is. We still need to do something. It really does happen.
It shouldnt,I mean I dont,I realize it's bigger than we can imagine and I'm glad the truth came to light,Ive been praying it will.😊God Bless
It VERY rarely happens the way OUR depicts. The industry is not supplied through stranger-abductions. Rather, vulnerable, poorly supervised minors are groomed and exploited, most often in their own home town. The most at-risk children are either those with parents caught up in addiction or LGBTQ youth shunned by their families. It is boring old investigative work, not military cosplay in foreign lands - particularly when the only "Intel" used to direct raids came from a PSYCHIC - that addresses the proliferation of ST.
I disagree…… Tom is opening peoples eyes to how familiar and close to home the problem really is!
@@jillbelnap1847 he ONLY conducts his "operations" outside the US.
why is operation in quotation tho?@@dianemurray6550
Are the demons going against child trafficked kids that are being saved?
Where are these supposedly saved kids now?
Listening to this and I have no idea what they’re actually accusing him of?
Neither do the accusers .
They’re too busy being victims to explain what actually happened! Smh
She is reading this in a way that is so incredibly unatural. Could be crying because of her guilt.
Wow! If their lying, it will be exposed! I hope the lies they are telling is worth the cost.
These women are wicked !
This is standard procedure from the system when they have been exposed. Why did this lady not claim all of this years ago. Not believing any of this.
The one did. she said It was brought to LDS IN 2021and they swept it under the rug.
Hey guys - just remember two things can simultaneously be true😢
I’m still very thankful those children were saved ❤ And I hope these women get peace. ❤
Oh shit the fake acting and crying and shaking is cracking me up😂
Very bad acting indeed! No Oscar for you!! 😂😂
False prophets followed by sheep.
I believe you. Thank you for your bravery and honestly. You are saving many more women from this abuser.
**THERE TIMING ON COMING OUT WITH THIS IS WHAT MAKES IT HARD FOR ME TO BELIEVE THIS**
I wonder how much they are being paid to say this!?
I get that feeling so strongly not just from the women...but from a lot of the people commenting. There is just something very off about a lot of the comments.
check the women's bank accounts .. lie detectors all around. it seems a deliberate destruction call long after these events cause questions to get to the truth. its suspicious. these women seem to want to destroy child trafficking awareness vs a personal beef with Tim Ballard. throwing this into public Square for emotional backing .. caution to find clarity
Hollywood sent them an ACH. Check their bank accounts. Mainstream media at it again.
None of these women seem believable and no human being should be found guilty of anything before a trial of their peers. I didn't hear any of them say what happened to them in any kind of detail!
My question is why would they lie?
Are hillary and Joe guilty of anything?
Probably getting paid to lie lmao
@@jesseramage2578 by who
@gngr2 paid by the pedo ring leaders, could even be threatening their families, anything it takes to discredit or demonize the enemy exposing them to the rest of us.
Dont fuck the help
Glad to see more money being wasted through pathetic and pithy law suits. What a joke man.
Now that Tim came out w a movie and has money these “victims” decide to come out and tell lies. Why didn’t they come out before the movie and expose him
So easy to see this guy was a creep. Protect yourselves from those you place on a pedestal!
They are VICTIMS and tried to report many times before this! Why can't ppl use critical thinking skills and go do research and find out the acual FACTS. This is just gross some of these comments. Saying they don't want to believe them because gossip other mormons that love time the predator. MANY actual practicing attorneys are going over all the court records. I've watched 3. Just use your brain not other ppl. This is just nuts these comments when nobody actually wants to know facts and truths. ESPECIALLLy the females. Why do you think never hear about csa or sa because the secret bishop attorney lines hide it and make them to. That's disgusting. The predators are protected NOT the victims.
Where is the FBI…they ignored the women in USA gymnastics for years…
In fairness let's not judge TB, still innocent until proven guilty. The truth will come out.
You are so ignorant!
Tim should have hired professionals and kept it professional. Regular civilians, especially lds moms are not set up for undercover law enforcement work no matter the cause. This is very dangerous work and only experienced law enforcement should be hired. This was a bad idea and i know this after being an lds woman working in the field for years. On another note, I'm guessing there was no way for these women to abandon ship? She said no one to help her? Interesting. How could the lds leaders not know to advise Tim to use professionals? Oh, not to mention they have spiritual insite for their community and investments? Not saying they financially supported Tim, they had meetings with Tim. Why would they support Tim in hiring inexperienced young women from his ward and community? In my opinion you do not need spiritual insight or advisement to figure this out, just good old common sense. I see why the woman are stuggling with their choices and out comes.... Just thoughts of mine.
Predators aren't capable of that
Predators are predators woulldn't have mattered much. He'd prob do same with all the other his companies he was taking money from our to his.
Do you know why this company didn't take it seriously as these women say? Simple it was consensual the times it happened. These women pretend to be victims and come out right after a movie release? Ok.... I am not saying Tim shouldn't have done things different but what do you need to catch a sex trafficker? Anyone know? Someone who can think like a sex trafficker... aka a sex trafficker.... the reason he can think like them is because he has spent so long trying to understand them that he has actually taken on some of the persona.
Women especially women in Utah need to learn to take accountability for there actions. These women did not set boundaries with this man. I believe these women believe they were raped because that's how they want to see it. The reason it took them this long to come out with this shows it was orchestrated to oust this man and the organization to defame and get people not to see the movie. Did this company stop any Sex trafficking this should be our first real question. If you were just going all around the country with this man doing nothing but sleeping with him ok... maybe if all of it was for nothing I could believe this more.
They women may have slept with him and if he had this much power over them who was the mentally unstable the man? Yes he should not have abused his power but no I would say the Women were more mentally damaged. Why would they be afraid of this man..... attorney general sides with the law not with a man who does bad. I believe this is a lesson for everyone both Male and Female. Men need to not abuse the power they have been given for being a Man and Women need to learn how to respectfully say no, set boundaries or for god sake do something.... other than become an emotional mess because you ARE THE UNSTABLE ONES.
@@The_Anderalyou are not educated how manipulation and mental control works. Things may appear "consensual" but that does not make it consensual. I'm glad clearly something like this has never happened to you so you don't get it. But stop being quick to judge what is actual abuse or not. No one except those in that room will know for sure. But experts also have studied these things. We see the ins and outs of victims and predators. The average person who has not experienced this would not understand. And that's okay but be careful what you speak on in these situations.
@@ATiredMom Do you know how to say NO? Are they not all adults? These are things taught to you as a child and you are telling me I don't know what consensual is? I know that word better than you will ever know. Your inability to see reality. These women had multiple opportunities to step away, multiple chances to say NO. Multiple opportunities to turn this man in.... Its only coming out now that a movie is release? Manipulation is what women do best. It is actually the easiest thing to identify because manipulation is always selfish.
I’m still confused on what the details are exactly?
As a r*pe victim I had to give details, an actual report and a r*pe kit where they got evidence/dna.
None of them are alleging that. One is an injury sustained during a self-defense class, and several of the others are alleging "groping" aka contact, with neck, and leg, and/or inappropriate non-contact behavior. These are civil cases so far, not criminal.
If they had proof, I don't see why they're going to the media, and not the police.
@@DaveMastor how is an injury at a self defense class his fault?
What the heck did I just watch?
No dates, times, specific details, anyone else that could verify their claims….
And people commenting are just believing them and calling them brave without all that!
@@DaveMastor what is “inappropriate non-contact behavior”?
@@ca8944 The big one is that he sent one of the women a photo of himself in underwear, showing off his full body fake tattoos for one of the operations. The photo was released; and (*in my opinion) it's not really a sexual photo. There's not really another way to show tattoos on legs and body at the same time - but I can also see why it would be inappropriate under more conventional circumstances. The main thing the photo indicates is that there is unlikely to be more explicit photos, as they likely would've released those for greater effect.
In any case, I want to be clear that's not all of the accusations, but those are the ones most of the media seems to be running with.
@@DaveMastor that’s not sexual harassment or assault and it really pisses me off that as a r*pe victim, that they are accusing him of things without specific details. It makes it more difficult for us to be believed.
If that’s the only thing that they have as “proof”, I think it’s bs
WHERRREEEESSSS THE EVIDENCE 🤌🏾
I find this very hard to believe. You are adult woman, not children who are helpless and cannot defend themselves or have the maturity to know what to do.
We need to discern the difference between truth and lies.
I hope the truth will be exposed
I wonder if all the Tim defenders will stop saying “until these women come forth publicly I’ll never believe the accusations”. They’ll have a new excuse not to believe these women.
I just hope they're willing to listen.
I completely believed Tim and when all this first came out I had no reason not to believe him. The claims were presented more as rumors without any concrete evidence. I always said however that if real evidence was presented I would believe. And now that documents, these interviews, and other evidence is being made public, I do believe it. It is so sad because the idea of Tim was so good. He represented such goodness. It's sad it wasn't the truth
They will most likely move the goal posts.
@@lizktthat’s impressive Liz. Most people, especially these days, just dig theirs heels in especially when something becomes politicized.
@@TwoTreesVisuals I completely agree. And I did NOT want to fall prey to that! That's a big reason I supported him in the beginning because it seemed like baseless slandering. I've learned to not believe anything I hear in the media unless it's backed up with evidence.
You can clearly see the body language on some of these women and it look alike they’re uncomfortable. Coached even
Big facts
They are shaking their head no when they are reading their script
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alwaysbossy2533 🤡
Has anything been proven so far?? If it's true, it's horrible, but I think everyone has the right to defend themselves. Innocent until proven guilty! Imagine this was your father, brother, husband, son. Wouldn't you wish for a fair treatment or trial?
IF YOU COME FOR THEM, THEY WILL COME FOR YOU. 🤐
Several times? Seriously....she knew he was married and after the first time any sain person would of quit.reported or not she would of quit. I dont believe this
Me neither.
It's a lie. They are just after him for exposing the truth. This woman is an actress.
It really sounds like the first woman was having an affair and is now claiming sexual assault to save face
@@popitthereproductiona horrible one
The media didnt want the movie shown.....I call fake, give me a break
I think she unwittingly just explained the whole religion. Working tirelessly day and night trying to do good, trying to save everyone, always under spiritual attack....... Not knowing you're being manipulated and brainwashed and used the whole time.
Sounds like Mormonism all right
Exactly.
When you start doing something to help children the devil attacks you. Old as time. He’s gonna need prayers!
yep....the devil is scared because he's making traction, and now he's being stopped ....or at least they are trying to stop him and ruin his reputation in every continent of the world. This is how the dirty and powerful work. Praying for him and his family. These women apparently care nothing for the 9 children's lives they are destroying by going after their parents, Tim and Katherine.
Kinda funny this came out after the movie dropped. Look into it...
Why,did they take so long to come forward? Is he not a hero for saving children from trafficking.?
Wisdom of Solomon, two sides to a story. I make no judgment about these women nor TB, and it is not wise to believe or make judgment on one story before hearing both sides. Sometimes lies can sound so believable.
We must learn to remove emotions out of things to see clearly. Just as Solomon heard both women and it was revealed in the end whose child it was (1 Kings 3:16-28)
Wisdom must be used to discern truth from lies. 🙏🏽
I second this, the women's me too movement had been weaponized so bad
AMEN !!!
💯. So many comments just believing them right away.
That's what our justice system is for. Ancient anonymously written scripture is not relevant, nor needed.
Just say No to all religious brainwashing and indoctrination.
I hope and pray that the TRUTH and only the TRUTH will come out in Jesus Christ name Amen
They are all lying. Mercy Father. Let God be true and everyman a lair. The truth will come out.
Do people think these women can't prove that they genuinely worked for OUR?? And there are multiple of them coming forward? Wow I hope they don't read this comment section where they say their stories and are vilified. If everyone is so sure that Tim is innocent let the court of justice prove what needs to be proven, we are only spectators. However you can be against high level networks that OUR stand against and also hold men like Tim accountable when multiple witnesses come forward. I don't want it to be true because I genuinely was excited about sound of freedom and don't want the true cause tarnished but he isn't above accountability. I had my doubts after watching all the videos I could of him saying his stories and saying that in a previous job he had to watch videos of children being abus** and he said it as though it was 'hard' but that he was just tough. He was not honest about how he would have ptsd and need alot of mental health support and accountability. I knew someone who worked doing the same thing and she isn't the same anymore, it messed her completely and rendered her unable to function. This narrative that Tim is a superhero is dangerous because he is in fact a fallible human and when people lack honesty while hiding behind their heroism we find out too many times pride comes before a fall. I believe the real heros are working quietly in the real world where trafficking is under our noses. Tim might have been one once but to me it all appears to have become a glamorised coping strategy. Time will tell.
All that were involved should be held accountable. Also, those who endorsed the organisation, including those who are high up in the Mormon leadership.
I was not there so I am not a witness to anything. But I can say with certainty that anyone who risks their life, their families life, their mental health and what I perceive is fighting so fiercely is not an evil person. Quite the opposite. Especially if they are raising awareness about the darkness. Doesn’t make sense to me.
It’s distinctly possible he could be undeserving of all the accolades the QAnon kooks give him.
Thank you Salt Lake tribune for covering this horrific story.
It has been hidden from the public for too long.
Bless these beautiful courageous Victims
See also series of articles by Lynn K. Packard. He’s been covering this man for the past 7 years!! 😮
@@patricianoel7782 Searching for Lynn K. Packard brings up the American Crime Journal website as a top result, which he seems to run as a duo with Damion Moore, who writes articles for Vice. Neither of these people seem to have a presence beyond this site, and an anti OUR podcast they seem to run on UA-cam.
Being blunt, these people are both despicable partisans, with no journalistic integrity. Damion Moore ran a hit piece article on OUR which was more of a hit piece on Trump, Conservatives, MAGA, and Christians -- while also managing to defend a convicted child predator -- they are not being objective if their article spends half of it's time maligning a third party, and then trying to use that to attack to supposed focus of the article. Moore specifically wrote that child kidnapping for trafficking effectively doesn't exist, and yet accuses Ballard of kidnapping the children FROM the traffickers, which is not only absurd, but directly contradictory to the "non existent child trafficking" statement.
Most of the commenters in this section seem to be blindly accepting these women's accusations without due process, and either in their initial comment or upon mild prodding will start speaking vitriol about Mormons and Trump. Now I'm not a Mormon, but this behavior is highly suspect, and appears to be agenda driven, much like Lynn Packard and Damion Moore - two individuals who don't even seem to exist outside their crusade against Mormons (despite many claims of accomplishment for Packard, the first google result is a different Packard), which seems to use OUR and Tim Ballard as a tool to attack Mormons. Ironically everything to them is a conspiracy that ties back to "QAnon Conspiracy Theorists".
It's very clear that some deep political hatred is driving this two "journalists", as well as many of the commenters here who mostly see and demand a guilty conviction for Ballard which can be used to further their political agenda.
Something is extremely amiss here.
@@patricianoel7782 Thanks for the tip on the Lynn Packard investigation. Bookmarked.
Someone else in comments had mentioned the investigation by The Blaze into the women's allegations. ...It is pretty damning and details Tim's grooming and manipulation method. Many comments here were asking for the real proof of the claims. The article explains his method of insisting that the women regularly delete the many privately texted instructions he sent to them, regarding the sexual methods they were to engage in, in service to the "operation."
I can make a story up too. On our trip to cartagena he told me to pretend to be his wife by French kissing and touching his butt while blending in with the rest of the citizens in el valle del fuego while this was happening I felt a certain emotional shock since this wasn't something I had signed up for and did not consent but while I was with him a cartel member looked at me and asked if I could go with him. I stared at Tim with fear not sure what would happen. Etc. it's easy to lie and make up stories.I did not want to keep going since I have things to do these women volunteered. I don't feel bad for them but the many children that get abducted for sick perverted peoples pleasure is disgusting.
I'm truly blown away by this. I really thought TB was a genuine man who loved his beautiful family and would do anything to save trafficked children, whether it is boys or girls & women. The deception is hard to stomach. Does this mean that Operation Toussaint was a lie? Does this mean The Sound of Freedom was also a lie? I've been following this story for a while and waiting to actually hear from the victims. Now it's real. These woman are absolute victims.
It seems that TB has bamboozled not only a huge amount of people like me but also some very high profile people like Glenn Beck & Tony Robbins. What a sad state of affairs.
May I gently say that it would be good to consider that the other 'leaders' are con artists too?
Beck.
Robbins.
Etc
Birds of a feather....
Some people were talking about it but they were called pedos and other awful names. Sometimes if there is smoke out there you need to look for the fire and not wave it away.
Well, the people who made The Sound of Freedom admit it was “based” on true stories and if you go read the court documents about the true stories in the movie you see a completely different picture, particularly how much if at all TB and OUR were involved.
Also, when you said, “Now it’s real.” I know this probably isn’t what you’re consciously thinking but remember it was always real, you just didn’t know it. Things can be real outside our purview.
Yes, he got lots to believe in him. Time to wake up and free yourself from the cult.
Its not just him that's corrupt but a whole media system lying for profit .Fear sells very well to those motivated by fear.
Absolutely courageous and brave. It is so very difficult to bring a massive narcissist to some form of Justice. ❤
Proud of these women.
Wait wait wait, you believe that horrible acting? Tim exposes something that is the worse thing you can do, and coincidentally these bad actors come out with these hit piece? I feel like putting 2 and 2 together on this one is a no brainer but the obvious is truly being ignored. Fuck Tim right? Saving thousands of kids from rape and torture can wait, we got more important things to do like coincidentally slander him immediately after he exposes corruption, makes sense.
Coming from a woman I appreciate you highlighting the obvious for the people in the comments. But yes HORRIBLE acting.
@@camhoward734 I am so embarrassed for you. Tim is a liar and that has been proven over and over again. He is also a sexual predator and that again has been proven over and over again. His church enounced him, he was excommunicated. You do realise he perpetuates trafficking, right? where is your proof of the thousands of kids saved? And when you say saved what do you actually mean?
@@katrynnmelville1490 "Tim is a liar and that has been proven over and over again" -- Oh yeah? Where? We just supposed to imagine that?
Or is that just the reality that you WANT to be true?
Here are just a couple of his lies:
Ballard: The boy was was kidnapped from Mexico as an infant.
FACT: The boy’s grandmother who was raising him in Banning, California, had known Earl Venton Buchanan almost his whole life- since he (Buchanan) was a child. Buchanan would often take the boy to Mexico to visit relatives, including the boy’s mother, who Buchanan was friend’s with.
This perpetuates the myth that kidnapping is major element of human trafficking. In fact, there are few cases where this has occurred. The few that do exist it wasn’t snatch and grab, it was Romeo’s wooing women into trafficking. Usually getting hooked on drugs and the promise of romance.
(see Border Patrol agents Ruiza and Apolinar’s reports, as well as the Statement of Facts and Motion to Suppress below under Earl Buchanan Case Docs)
Ballard: Earl Buchanan was kidnapping children and trafficking them.
FACT: Earl Buchanan was millionaire who started as a plumber and then went into general contracting and invested in real estate. He was known to hire much of the Hispanic population and sometimes would hire illegal immigrants. This is very much a typical pedophile grooms families and victims case.
Ballard: The boy was smuggled into the United States
FACT: Again, the boy was not from Mexico nor was he smuggled into the United States, he was an American citizen. This is a common misconception with human trafficking as they toy with the right-wing belief that to combat human trafficking you need more border security. In reality, vast majority of human trafficking, almost 99% is perpetrated by family members or close friends of the family or intimate partner of the victim.
It would be more effective to attack family values than border security and immigration. It goes to show just how disconnected people are from the subject of human trafficking in general. Including Tim Ballard.
Ballard: Earl Buchanan was taking kidnapped children to a compound in San Bernardino
FACT: Earl Buchanan had a construction compound in Banning, California, which housed equipment and vehicles. It was accessible to his workers and family, so the notion that Buchanan was taking kidnapped children to a compound to house them and film them and have “thousands of pictures everywhere” is just not sustainable or possible. Yes, Buchanan used a certain room that had a camera to film these disgusting acts against children, but the notion that pictures and chains or this was some torture-sex dungeon is simply just to play up to Evangelists and engage in right-wing fantasy, so they will shell out cash.
Ballard then goes into very specific details about his interactions with this victim of trafficking. Which is troubling, because, it simply never happened. At the same time, he makes sure a key marketing gimmick of O.U.R.’s Origin Story- the necklace. Conservative commentator Glenn Beck and Tim Ballard had debuted a replica necklace that you could buy when they first started this grift back in 2014.
Ballard: He was a 5 year-old boy. I recognized him from the video. I was like oh my gosh, I never recognized one of the kids from the video. I started to have a physiological reaction. like I don’t know if I can handle this
FACT: Ballard had no idea what was going on. He was at his office 45 minutes away. In fact, Ballard would not even receive a phone call until after Buchanan was put in custody and the boy was isolated. Which this should be the end of this report, because court records, border patrol reports and now O.U.R. claims the the depiction in the film was entirely fiction.
Except Ballard doesn’t get off that easy. Lynn Packer and I have asked Tim Ballard for years about his “Pedro necklace story” which is demonstrably false.
Ballard: The boy “inherently” knew he [Tim Ballard] was a good guy (this plays a lot into Mormon mythology) so he runs to us and jumps in our… my arms
FACT: Tim Ballard wasn’t present. He was still forty-five minutes away at his office. Ballard was a Homeland Security Investigations Agent for Homeland Security, not a Border Patrol agent.
Ballard: He’s like holding me and shaking and I’m like oh my gosh, does he speak English? Does he speak Spanish? Does he speak both? I don’t know… and he spoke perfect English which was haunting to me because the only reason he did, is because is would be, as it turn out, he was taken as an infant… and he said to me like no five year-old should ever have to say to anybody, he said, “I don’t belong here”
FACT: Again, Ballard was not present. Not only does he lie, but he injects magic and sorcery into his absurd fantasies in an effort to perpetuate that he’s possibly been anointed with divine providence or guidance. Ballard’s fantasy and plot lines are unfit for a Lifetime movie script reject pile, but he knows Christians and MAGA republicans eat this stuff up.
The notion that this five year-old boy somehow knew “he didn’t belong here” even though he was “kidnaped as an infant” according Ballard. According to court records and Border Patrol reports, the boy appeared distressed when separated from Buchanan (as I said). When the boy was interviewed by a physician, he denied that Earl Buchanan had touched his privates. He called Buchanan “his friend”.
Ballard: The thing that happened, call this love, providence or whatever,-to me it was special… is the little boy had a necklace.. that little boy that five year-old.. and his sister had given him the necklace when they were separated by Buchanan and it was a little dog tag and he gave it to me and I had to go find his sister now. So we did, we got her out (Ballard confirms to Lewis Howe). But he gave me the necklace.
FACT: Once again, Ballard was not present when the boy was removed from the van and Earl Buchanan was placed in custody. Ballard was called to obtain and preserve evidence. He then would interview Buchanan as a means to verify chain of custody and to obtain any type of confession to support it.
The boy’s sister, Yanelli was never kidnapped or separated from her brother. Yanelli’s presence is well documented in this case. Court records and interviews demonstrate that Buchanan often stayed at the boy’s house.
There was no necklace.
Ballard: I tried to give it{ back to him and he said no it’s yours it yours. This is when he’s hugging me, and I’m like okay so I put it in my pocket thinking nothing of it but later one of my children found it and said “where did you get this?” … I’m like uhhhh how do I tell this story to my kid, I tell my kid what I can. and he said, “isn’t it cool he put your name on the necklace dad?” I said what are you talking about my names not on the necklace!”… I flip it around and it had a little scripture from the bible on it. From the book of 1 Timothy So that was like I was gonna do am I gonna quit or am I gonna go full in? But that little boy whether he knows it or not just gave me a commission and that necklace I wore it for every operation I went on. It was like my symbol, I’m in now
FACT: The necklace is simply a marketing gimmick. Again, O.U.R. has said, the story Tim told is simply not true. Border Patrol agents did their job. This really is the end of the story. It wasn’t even Ballard’s arrest.
It is interesting that women waited until he has money from a movie and podcast to bring accusations like this. He needs to be very upfront about any inappropriate behavior as a married man in order to be believable. I think their desire for money triggered them. I am a pretty good judge of character, and Tim doesn't give me that creep vibe. I worked in a prison, and recognize them fairly easily. The host of the Today show that left after accusations always gave me that vibe.
Apparently your not a very good judge of character.
Really? I immediately got a creep vibe from Tim Ballard. Everything I’ve learned about him since has confirmed that vibe.
I hear you! All about the $$$
Women do not lie about this, especially for money! Do you know how much courage, faith, strength it takes a women to come forward to a powerful man and organization, and church who covered up. Stop insulting women! Tim is a good actor! It’s happens alot when some predator gets name in press, gets known, then this dark stuff comes out!
I bet they're being paid off! I don't trust them
Wait so did they not rescue any children? I'm confused there needs to be a complete investigation if this is the case
cry without tears
Where did these ladies go to acting school?
This is just because the movie succeeded I don’t believe it. Shit like this happens all the time in Hollywood once you get blacklisted from Hollywood or get on their bad said this is what happens. Take Rick and Morty for example the creator was forced to hand over the rights to the show and threaten him with sexual allegations and after he submitted to the deal all charges were dropped.
I agree 100%. The elite win with money
Your gross seriously. I know you didn't do any reaearch or even read any of the court records. These women have trying to report for years. Can't you find actual FACTS or just to hard to get some critical thinking skills and learn. So weird these just crazy comments with NO proof. I've seen and heard the proof just sad
3 rd lady - if ot was onvious that you could be manopulated why then did you allow yourself to be manipulated?
Courageous Woman!!! Good for you & good for the TRUTH! Much Love and Strength coming your way. GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
I financially supported O.U.R. Is there a lawsuit filed to recover the donations?
You’re shameful.🤦🏻♀️
Such lies. They are all going after him, and lying. They're being paid. It's not true at all. These women are liars and pretentious actors. Crocodile tears.
I was a victim of intense grooming and psychological manipulation that would have turned physical had I not had certain barriers in place that I didn’t even realize until now, looking back. It was a slow, patient process (4 years of my life invested) by a cunning narcissist, with a lot of power, flattery, and friends in high places. He was a predator. A church member with a wife and several children. In a cult like situation where everything hinged on my success making a huge difference in the world. So I was ALL IN. and I remained in the trap until circumstances forced me out, and I recognized it for what it was. Like the frog, slowly boiling in the pot. There is a very good chance I would have been completely taken advantage of, mentally, spiritually, physically, if those barriers were not in place to keep him at bay, and I hadn’t quite literally run from the premises like I did. I have not said anything, for fear that all of his friends in high places, would put me down and say I was crazy. Because it does sound crazy. And there would just be a lot of denial and gaslighting, especially because it never got physical. Thank goodness. His word against mine, with his many powerful friends, his charm and charisma. And me with my timid introversion. I completely believe these women and what they have been through. I am still suffering ptsd from it after getting out of the situation several months ago. As I work to sort the shattered reprogramming of my psyche, not to mention, my life. As apparently he continues with his own as if nothing ever happened. if I were to testify before the court of my experiences today, I would need to read from a paper, because I am a mess. Was panic attacks come on at any given time, with no warning. I can read these same fears and behaviors in this woman.
In my extensive research after the fact, desperate to understand what had happened, I learned a lot. And I, for one, am kind of surprised that no one is talking about TB’s eyes. Look at the connection between people like Diane downs
Elizabeth Holmes, Ted bundy, Erin Caffey, James Fallon, Kanika Batra. And it’s the eyes. Has to do with the brain development of some people. And what do they all have in common? I would be very interested in looking at Tim’s brain scan, if he were to ever get one. As did James Fallon, a brain scientist, who had his own brain scanned, because he had easy access, and was doing family research. He was astonished at the results, and speaks extensively about his own experiences on the subject of psychopathy. Produces a robotic, superhuman ability without being bogged down by empathy. Easy to fall into robotic and manipulative behaviors because of lack of conscience or moral compass, unless steered correctly by those who raised you. Because that part of the brain isn’t developed like a normal brain. Even worse if the person in question was never validated as a child, and could never meet the expectations of a parent, which often creates narcissism. Which, I understand, was TB’s childhood experience.
I, for one, am kind of surprised that no one is talking about Tim’s eyes. Look at the connection between people like Diane Downs, Elizabeth Holmes, Ted bundy, Erin Caffey, James Fallon, Kanika Batra. And it’s the eyes. So prominent, so intense, and yet seem empty. Has to do with the brain development of some people. And what do they all have in common? I would be very interested to see the results if Tim were to have his brain scanned. As did James Fallon, a brain scientist, who speaks extensively on the his knowledge and his own personal experience with psychopathy when he had his own brain scanned during family research, with surprising results. This genetic trait produces a robotic, superhuman ability without being bogged down by empathy. Easy to fall into robotic and manipulative behaviors because of lack of conscience or moral compass, unless steered correctly by those who raised you. Because that part of the brain isn’t developed like a normal brain.
And especially if, as a child you were never validated by a parent you loved, who had expectations you could never meet, as I understand was TB’s childhood experience, which quite often creates narcissism. Kind of a scary combo.
Also quite possible that he doesn’t even recognize the extent of the damage he is doing. He sees himself Superman, he’s living in a childlike fantasy, where he truly believes he’s making a difference, and playing with these people like a little boy playing with his toy cars.
Exceptional courage and intent. Wishing you all well and in the eyes of millions of us, even though you may feel humiliated, we are so proud of each of you making the outstanding decision to step forward.
Very courageous and heartfelt. Im so sorry this happened to you. I pray justice will prevail and your hearts will be healed in time. You speak for many victims. Thank you and God bless you.
Hopefully each AND every one of those women Will repent from their perverse lies.
I'm amazed how many people in the comments are defending Tim Ballard by accusing these women of lying. They seem pretty sincere to me. And note Ballard's defenders are saying EXACTLY what they need to say to discredit the accusers.
I don't believe this. Define sexual abuse? LOOKING AT YOU? A hug? Funny how this comes out to SMEAR THE MOVIE OF SOUND OF FREEDOM.
Do a little research, and you'll be amazed!
Of course you don’t believe them. It’s not about smearing the movie.. did you not know that Tim Ballard was connected to the Hillary Clinton Foundation? There’s a lot of information online if you look for it.