Is it your opinion he was kicked out of his own company for misconduct? Or excommunicated from his faith last month for opinions or confessions? Or an opinion that the courts have texts from him sharing inappropriate content to people who are not his wife? Or testimonies from those close to him at fundraising events sharing that he said Elder Ballard was a silent partner and endorses his behavior and activities for raising money? I don’t think anyone knows what a fact is anymore, and that the guy and evangelism is the only litmus test to their surroundings even though anyone with a rudimentary level of education can look at the court documents and testimonies of those close to him to see the overwhelming evidence, pray that Tim can change like all of us need to for the better and get in the path to those healing in its wake…
The basic goal of everybody in Utah right now is to make sure the story doesn't go too national, but more importantly to make sure no white Mormons go to jail. If Ballard can produce an African American or Indigenous American who can be framed as more responsible for the scam than he and his friends there will be a s***storm.
No, repeating what someone tells you and then claiming you believe them because, “if you know you know,” on a video is literally the easiest thing to do. Actually proving what is true in a court of law is hard, necessary and honorable. Eric is a dishonorable leech, who thankfully is no longer responsible for people’s lives as a law enforcement officer. This media campaign undermines our society’s ability to find truth, destroys people without sue process, and worse pulls along dopes like you as part of a mob.
@@LizzaJo I hope not. He thinks he is going to be both US President and the LDS Prophet so he can lead us into the apocalypse. All his words in released documents.
@@tomasina10wow..... but it's really sad to see how your religion has corrupted your thought process Under your theory child grapists n unalivers can stay if it's true repentance gtfoh It's no different than catholic priests getting moved around from church to church. Stop the insanity. That ish is a cult
I saw Tim Ballard force a small girl to hug him after she was allegedly rescued from sex trafficking. I knew immediately that he was not a good man. For no man would ever force physical touch, even of an innocent nature, on a child who had been harmed by the touch of adult men. I was called crazy for speaking out, but I stand by what I felt and believe.
I saw him speak at UVU several years ago. He was an obvious liar and narcissist. I’ve been waiting for his downfall ever since and it came as no surprise.
@@peaceliberty4allat this point speaking out for these women seems to be the priority. Let experts in trafficking do the work they are trained for in helping children who ate victims of abuse.
@@debbieshrubb1222 I've spoken to a detective who works on sex trafficking and child SA in my country. He had to be guarded in what he said, but did say that "TB and OUR has been on our radar for years". He was relieved that the truth is out.
Particularly because they had already received complaints, and then they continued to let him be alone with more women instead of protecting them. The "couples ruse" should have been squashed as soon as the first complaint, but they ignored it. They put more women in danger. They should have exposed him the same day he was ousted- right as the movie was coming out. Now they are put in question even more so. It's all about the money for all of them. I did see a guy who was involved with OUR speaking out about Tim, and he said it's unfortunate that OUR will probably go down with Tim because they are actually starting to do good work now. No more "jumps."
@@deborahdobbie OUR’s profile was raised through the movie, so they for sure made money. Tim Ballard’s profile was raised as well and you can’t tell me he didn’t profit from that.
Why do you keep referring to this group of women as "girls"? This has been stated by you over and over in your videos, as a former law enforcement officer you know words matter, labels such as implying the victims are children is false and very dishonest. You want us to trust what you are saying yet you keep using false labels.....are any of the victims children or were at the time of the alleged crime?
There are no winners in this awful story unfortunately. Thank you for making your voice heard Eric, especially since you were a strong supporter before you learned the truth. Appreciate Eric and Brian for this interview.
The winners are the women who finally spoke up and let the truth be known! And stopped living in fear of a controlling narcissist. Yeah that's winning. And the people who won't be seeing the movie because we don't want to have anything to do with Ballard and his abusive behavior.
The winners are the ones who never gave a dime to OUR and called out the grifters in our wards and stakes who promoted his scams. I never lost a dime to Tim and Katherine Ballard.
@user-fg5jf4mi6h who's saying the non profit is a sham...much good work has come from it via donations and committed employees...get rid of the problem people and hope the organization can continue with their mission
Eric, you had a moral obligation to insist that the truth be told after conducting your own investigation. Thank you for doing that despite how difficult it must be. You were such a big supporter of Tim. Thank you for giving the victims a voice.
@@reeree5259 Actually he did not support the women's side until he realized that side would be more profitable. Same as everybody else. It's not about right vs wrong, it's about which side has more power. Same thing in countless realms. Victims only get voices when they get teeth.
As for why the women didnt come forward sooner from a victims perspective you think you ate yhe only one. The guilt and shame for women is crushing. If 1 woman came forward in this political/religious enviornment she would have been flayed alive. There was only power in numbers. It had to reach a critical mass. They are brave and should be honored.
@lukasmiller486 hes counter suing. That will lead to depositions and discovery. Tim B. will hire an excellent attorney with money he gets from donations. He will have due process.
I have to commend Eric for his attitude and words on this. I have disagreed with him on things in the past, but he is speaking clearly and responsibly here.
His goal, and the goal of the interviewer, is to frame it as something to be handled outside the courts so no 'friends of the church' and no 'powerful law enforcers' need to face accountability. Very cleverly done with sly references like "Would you recommend criminal charges...", but its gangsters managing their crimes, nothing else.
@@aracely909we’ll talk has been all along that he was involved in trafficking of kids especially being good friends with Hillary Clinton. He’s also a Mormon where they do Satanic rituals and kill peoples and also traffic them as well in the higher ones in that church.
@@shanghaiffgg they’re still in the investigation phase. I’m sure he’s done so much more than what anybody knows about. This man lives in a fantasy he created in his own head, like psychopathic people do.
I appreciate this man’s willingness to look again into the situation .. this kind of courageous openness to relook at ones assumptions is a rare human ability.
For members of the church. Let this be your sign that you need to sharpen your skills in discernment. I’ve been alone in thinking there was something dark about this man years ago. Whomever wants to save children in such a public way has ulterior motives. Best way to be undercover is to NOT advertise what you’re doing. Making a movie??? Sus.
Looks like the high ups in the church need to have a little better discernment when it comes to who they support and what they invest their money in too!
Was unsure whether he was being dishonest, but then noticed the American flag on his shirt so he is probably being honest. If he had a cross and a badge visible then it would remove any remaining doubts.
What a terrible situation that we were duped by. It is a stab in the heart. Tell those women please, that they have a lot of love and support from us out here. No need to be ashamed. I am in Davis Co.
Exactly, no need to be ashamed if this is true. Why to wait until now, after the movie was released to let the world be duped. This movie was in the making for a long time. We need facts!
@Encontrarlaverdad Do you realize how much courage it takes for anyone to come forward as a sexual assault victim? Your question is an insult and a slap in the face to SA victims. Let's look at the girls at BYU. Remember that? The ones that got sent packing because by reporting a crime, they too were considered to be in violation of the "honor code" So now, they need to decide, is my education more important? Why would any victim of SA, want to come forward and report something so traumatic when these are the questions they will be asked? Why would any victim want to report a crime like this when the attitude of so many is to blame the victim, or question why were you there, what were you wearing, did you think that was a safe place and so on. I get it, sometimes people lie. But I cannot think of one logical reason why anyone would want to report being assaulted in this way when all you have to do is look around at the attitudes shown towards those that do come forward to know that you will be treated with suspicion and doubt. Perhaps these women didn't feel safe until now. Who knows? But does that really even matter? They came forward and saved whoever would have been next and that could have been many. So in my book they came forward and that is what matters. Sad thing is, I doubt you will even recognize the toxicity of your question. 😢
@@PLopezAthere is videos online talking about the problems with Ballard and OUR for over 2 years including from a reporter named Lynn Packer. People dont want to believe it, they prefer some unrealistic fairytale than the truth. It seems in America of you say God and Jesus in every second sentence people will believe anything you say. So much evil in religion.
@@PLopezAwow. So women who are allegedly groomed, assaulted, lied to, and had their marriages destroyed because they signed up to save children don’t matter as much to you as a man who claimed Jesus talked to him and said he would be President of the US AND the Prophet of the Mormon Church to lead us into the Apocalypse while paying a ‘psychic’ to say where kids are, and who has zero proof he ever saved any child? Wake up brother, you are being scammed. 😂Ballard is a millionaire, he doesn’t need you to defend him.
@@kimschofield911I don't think these women would have wanted the movie release to be halted..they likely wanted its truths and story to come out..this isn’t about the movie its about Ballard
Tim Ballard needs to be held accountable!! The victims need to be heard. There needs to be justice and consequences. The manipulation has run very deep, and far too many people have been hurt by him. DO NOT for one second say he is a "good guy" or " hero" if you have nothing to back it. "Based on a true movie" (SOF) doesn't mean Tim has saved children. It was a great movie with a true storyline of trafficking but Tim is not the hero they made him look like. Don't be so quick to give glory to a man who you have no idea who he is!! Let this be a lesson! Just because someone holds a title or leadership in ANY organization that they are automatically good people just because you've been taught/told to believe it. Great interview, Eric!
This is so tragic for all involved. I have appreciated your information and insight Eric. Not only on this matter but on all the information you bring. Keep it up! I am praying for healing for these women.
A person is innocent until proven guilty. And the fact that you are all not keeping this quiet until after a trial, makes me think that this is all a conspiracy against him because he's been ruining your craft!
Go and look up the lawsuit filed by woman #6 who is referred to in the 60+ page lawsuit as AA. It is remarkable. And it aligns with the lawsuit from the other women. AA was Tim’s personal assistant and greatest confidant. It’s eye-opening to say the least.
He will never be trusted again. He was also believing some really weird stuff and listening to a psychic and thinking he was suppose to usher in the second coming of Christ as a prophet. Which is complete nuts .And also going to the same therapist as Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow, and Tim was claiming the rescued children were getting after care from the same therapist. And Tim and Chad and Lori all believed crazy things.
Sounds like a demonic spirit got into Tim, He needs to get delivered from this.. minister in the deliverance ministry can cast that out.. Devil prowls around to devour those who he can..
"He was very strategic in what he was doing", reminds of the LDS church,where he is/was taught, which hides and keeps silence many intentional inappropriate behaviours within their authority. They are very good at staying quiet.
Thanks Eric for wanting to seek truth and stand by it, even when it’s hard. It’s personal for me, I know all the players and I appreciate your voice in this!!
Now they are stepping far far away…..distancing themselves from Tim. He left OUR months ago. He embarrassed OUR & his church. His church has chastised him….. possibly excommunicated. Follow the money!!! Follow the facts. How many children were rescued? Trafficking is a problem but so are fake heroes.
I question if he has ever saved any children at all. I don't know of any victims or families who have ever come forward in support of tim ballard's claims. Instead, it's the opposite. If he really saved children, where are they? Where are their families? If I or the children of my life had ever been trafficked and ballard was our rescuer, I would be shouting from the rooftops about his heroism and thanking him every time I opened my mouth.
@@cherylduvall4714 So right. Where are the shelters or orphanages he claimed to be building? Where is the evidence that he saved anybody? There is no evidence. He constantly claimed thst OUR was working "worldwide". He wasn't. He would have to work with other genuine organisations, usually consisting of government backed officers. He wouldn't allow that. TB preferred South America, because he knew he could get away with anything.
He was making it up, just like a lot of other people have been making it up with the online fake child predator sting operations. The people who conduct those are not much different from Tim Ballard. They are pathological liars, just like Tim Ballard. Everybody who has conducted a fake child predator sting operation should be investigated. There are so many red flags there that they are the sexual predators themselves.
Thank you for this great interview! Thank you Eric for bravely admitted you know he's guilty of these allegations. I admire you for speaking out. Knowing you have talked to the women and believe them helps us in the public to know he's guilty too because we respect your discernment. I'm sorry he's disappointed you as a friend you believed in. It's a very sad situation all around. Please continue to be there for these women. I will keep them in my prayers and you as well 🙏💜
Wouldn't have discernment been if he stopped it happening early? I'm glad Eric is taking ownership also, but what he has it the opposite of discernment. He's scared
@@magorzatasanchez736 I agree with you. All of these "allegations" of sexual abuse came out shortly AFTER Sound of Freedom. Makes me question these women's credibility. I would have this guy crossed examined for his credibility also. Sounds like a Kavanaugh case.
Thank you so very much Eric, this is not easy. God calls on us ALL to speak truth even when it is NOT popular!! May God protect you!!! Thank you for what you do for TRUTH.
People tend to think it is so easy to speak up. At first you are in denial because you can't reconcile the behavior with the person you thought you knew. When you finally realize it's true then you consider the damage speaking up will cause to people, or a cause, you know and care about and it isn't so easy.
This former Salt Lake City cop is not in denial, he has known all along. Wake up and smell the coffee--oh, wait. You probably don't drink coffee. But, still open your eyes up wide and look!
@@wolfpowers36 My eyes are wide open thank you, I am one of the few that wasn't fooled by TIm and OUR from the moment I heard about them. I was speaking to the psychology of why people don't speak up in cases like this and I stand by what I said.
We did say things earlier. (Years ago!) Tim and others of OUR helped pursue getting a fake stalking/gag order on my wife and I. Eventually my wife was forced to sign an NDA.
What he said. My husband was reading the court documents last week as I sat beside him, doing my own thing. I glanced over occasionally and read finding such offensive material, and eventually was sucked into x rated content. Wow, I felt sick going to bed that night… God bless those women and bring them justice. Men of power and money are easily tempted to use “unrighteousness”and evil dominion.
It takes a lot courage to speak up like Eric has especially being the only one when it’s not what people want to hear. After reading the lawsuits for myself and hearing Tim try to defend himself it’s obvious these women aren’t making this up. It’s heartbreaking and infuriating.
I'm seeing a lot of emotion statements about people feel about allegations, but I haven't yet seen concrete documented reports or allegations made through proper investigative channels, so I'm asking where to find those. Just because I haven't seen them doesn't mean they don't exist. But I find it suspect that everyone talks about their emotions and no one is saying any like concrete facts. I'm sure it's emotional. But legal matters aren't about emotion or public opinion. If there are criminal allegations, those should be thoroughly investigated and I hope they are so people can either find justice go the full extent of the law or be exhonerated, based on evidence, like legal evidence. Saying something is heartbreaking or abhorrent (even if it is your emotional truth about abuse) isn't the same thing as saying [for fictional example]: "On such-and-such date, at approximately X:YZ time, A Big Bear put his genitals on my leg during a business meeting." That was a fictional example of a legal allegation or report. I have never had a business meeting with a bear of any size. Documented or verifiable evidence would be helpful in recovering truth and I don't know why this is all for public circus rather than saving statements for the courtroom. I just don't get it, I guess.
As a victim of childhood sexual abuse who was not believed and victim shamed myself I applaud Eric for standing up for these women. I wanted Tim to be good, all the way good so badly, but at the cost of truth being lost and buried? I had a family member who was horrifically sra abused and he became a physical therapist who worked specifically on sra victims, to help them become healed from this sort of trauma. He went to prison for the same type of things Tim was doing to his victims. It doesn’t get much worse then abusing women in the name of God and as a man of authority. That is pure evil. Doing a little bit of good doesn’t justify doing bad as well. Thank you Eric for wanting truth and doing what it takes to get it. For putting yourself on the line for it. I as well have been called a pedo for standing up for these women, yes me who has lived with cptsd due to the abuse I had as a child. Wild what people are willing to say and make okay in their minds in order to worship a false leader and continue to live safely in their minds. Also most people will never understand what kind of toll it takes on a victim to finally have a voice. These women are brave, thank God for them.
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@@vestagirl8484 I say shame on Tim Ballard and the women and husband . Full grown azz adults having sex on donated 💲💲 GREEDY !! The women were not beat , threatened or held against their will. Real victim's are .
@@vestagirl8484 you obviously have never been sexually assaulted as a grown woman. You have no idea if this was concentual. Are you in these women’s heads? Do you know their past? Do you know if they wanted to help save the kids because of their own traumatic childhoods that lead them to be victims over and over again? A man who carries that kind of authority can get away with threats and passive aggressive behavior as he did because he prays on victims and creates his own. You need to study this out more my friend. Go listen to his friends that left, he was excommunicated and fired for these things. Go listen to the pain in the victims voices. We all wanted him to be who he portrays himself to be. We need to also want truth far more than safe lies.
Kudos for believing these women. But you undermine your outrage when you say this isn't like "kavanaugh". So you condem men for this behavior when you decide the victim is telling the truth but you get to decide if another womans story is real.
Excellent interview. Thank you. I myself loved Tim Ballard and was forced to check my biases and revaluate my opinion. It is not okay to turn a blind eye. Rescuing children in my view is THE most important task. Trust me there are plenty of hard working clean living men rescuing children whom you all can support. Forget the hero-worshiping!!
Whether it's politics, religion or anything else, once the cult "hero worship" begins, and discrimination is put on the back seat, it's a down hill slide. No man is above the law.
Kavanaugh’s victim isn’t believable at all if you really look into the case. It was nothing but trumped up charges. And it appears that this case is also being dismissed for Tim Ballard as of yesterday.
Eric was a low level less than mediocre cop. Not an investigator of any kind. Don’t believe him. He knows nothing. He seeks fame. He has auditioned for things on tv and was an aspiring actor. Looking for fame.
I might not always agree with Eric’s stance on things however I am glad he’s actually speaking out on this. My only question is when the rumors started swirling months ago why was everyone so silent and still promoted him as a hero? Specifically when the movie was released? These women have every reason to be scared. Look back to the things one of TB’s buddies SR did to his opponent when running for office. The power and money of this group of misfits is disturbing. Have any of your investigative journalists looked into CNF (Katherine’s venture under OUR/TB and the supposed 223 kids and 145 grants (March 2022 numbers quoted). For some reason there’s been zero transparency on these situations and we’ve got 223 kids they claim to have helped. They also said they worked with 7 agencies to accomplish this. I’d love an actual journalist to dig into this because the further I’ve researched the more questions I have.
@@jordan-xe2yb I doubt he was privy to much of the back end of things but imo he is as problematic with his extreme Q beliefs and bs he also spews. I’ve done deep dives on a lot of them and he’s one I’ve spent a ton of time researching so although I think he’s problematic I can’t say he was privy to the info before either.
@@jordan-xe2yb imo I also believe he was hand selected to play TB because of his very extreme beliefs also. I’m not sure how many ops he went on himself before the filming of the movie if any honestly. It’s hard to vet a lot of info because imo they are all liars. I’ve been extremely vocal about this for months and got shadow banned cause how dare we call out the Rich and powerful “hero”!
Moving from southern California into the small town, Utah thinking... It is incredibly sad how frightened these people are of unknown outsiders... The long lasting heritage habit is, All gentiles are Guilty! Until they Prove innocent. . . There is overriding, built up jealousy, for those who accomplish their goals; Rising above The Crabs in the bucket syndrome rude folk... And the control People who have millions to lose invested into trafficking. The firesides done over the years by Tim are always full of the Holy Spirit's enlightening light. Tim books he's written, putting together true journaling; Personal records of the testimonies of our for Father's belief of the importance of a Free Christ serving country. The best gathered information by Tim! put into true history books!!! Truly there's a dark force out there that HATES Tim... And will pay big money for lies and fabrication to destroy Tim and save their world controlling plans. Really good people will let the laws of the constitution, that defend a man, until proven evidence proves otherwise! Not the views of the, "Here say and They say" Small town, jealous, fearful minded, pull others down crabs in the bucket, people
'you know when you know' is nonsense when it comes to accusations of high profile persons of this nature. These kinds of accusations need real evidence. I would never do this kind of interview based on mere accusations. Defaming someone like this is unacceptable. If solid evidence comes out, then that is the time for interviews like this. You are completely discredited for this nonsense. 'keep your powder dry and wait '..that would be great advice for you to follow, Eric.
So you don't know. I read the court documents and that was enough for me, and when he said, "You know when you know," I knew exactly what he meant. People who have never been involved in this kind of behavior, whether a victim or law enforcement, don't get it. I have dealt with SO MANY men with similar behavior, I knew the stories were not fabrications. I bet speaking with the victims made it even more apparent. Even before all this, I knew that Tim was a grifter and a liar. I never believed a word that came out of his mouth. It's the people who have no discernment who have put him on a pedestal that are having issues believing he would do these things. Just follow all the $$ and the numerous organizations created by and for all these people. They are all friends and family and officers paying themselves six figures- up to $500,000+. Way too much questionable behavior.
Stop at Chuck! The fact that they are brave enough to come forward at all is amazing. And when they've been threatened and bulldozed by the likes of Tim and his buddies they are probably extremely afraid and they found a few people with a kind listening ear and now they have found a lawyer. And making fun of them is not cute or OK and it's a bad look for any man
There was something I noticed when going to an O.U.R. event. It just felt off. Something didn't feel right. Even though I know we were supposed to be there for the sake of the kids in bondage, it just didn't feel right. I didn't know what it was, but it was probably the fact that it was based on lies and abuse at least in part.
As someone who has followed Eric moustous for a while from a distance to see where he ends up in all the crazy that’s going on since before covid regarding this topic and religion and other state affairs etc, it’s glad to finally see someone with his voice state the obvious and to be so refreshingly honest.
So people who disagree with Moutos's conclusions have cognitive dissonance? His research consists mostly of interviewing women accusers (whom he calls victims), some of whom are apparently still participating in the operations. It seems manipulative that he cherry picks from those who disagree with him the most extreme ones who call him a pedophile, and not any of the logical arguments. For instance, that it was not his business to interview these women, nor was it the place of these women to go to social media figures to poison public opinion, and therefore a jury pool, as they remained anonymous and even before charges were filed. Or that interviewing these women accusers, no matter how convincing, doesn't represent the whole story and that accusations are not facts, even if they are all similar. (Might just mean they are orchestrated). Guilty or innocent, Tim Ballard has no chance of a fair hearing, considering the condition of our jury system and the now poisoned pool of public opinion, thanks at least partially to these social media figures, many of whom seem to be full of themselves and their "courage" at taking on a subject that they should have stayed out of. Naturally, many of them say it is hard for them to do and even feign tears, yet they keep banging the drum against Ballard, and seem to be getting a lot of publcity and ego-enhancing coverage, such as this interview. Moutsos and others rationalize this public social media lynching by saying they are seeking truth and truth matters. Yet, we don't know the truth, just Moutsos' version that he has assimilated from the accusers. There is more info to be considered than what Moutsos is getting from these women. Interesting also to see Moutsos on the same side as Utah's governor. LOL. Innocent until proven guilty seems to have no place in publicizing and commenting on these accusations. (Perhaps I should say commenting, and commenting endlessly.)Whether Ballard is innocent, guilty or somewhere in between, Moutsos and other social media figures are full of themselves when they think it is their place to present accusations and give opinions on something that should be a matter for a Bishop and now a court system, while at the same time stating that his opinins are the "truth" and we must face all face the truth and heal, as if he is doing something altrustic.. Social media has become very dangerous when figures with large platforms take upon themselves this role, regardless of how confident they are in their "rightness". Setting aside the Ballard case, if social media figures can use their influence in this way, we have to consider the destruction that they could do to a innocent person who was made to look guilty (which could apply to apply to Ballard).. What Moutsos and others are doing is so divisive and destructive. This is not the Lord's way and is not righteous, regardless of the claims of truth-seeking and wanting to see accountability. THAT IS FOR THE BISHOP AND THE COURTS, NOT MOUTSOS OR ANYONE ELSE. (.And yes, I have read the documents and I see a lot of accusations, smears and uglines that appeal to emotions and can cause people to get upset, but no evidence or facts.) I will wait to form an opinion when FACTS and EVIDENCE are presented, not emotional accusations. And if the facts indicate guilt of something or of everything accused, I will form an opinion, but I will not participate in publicly denouncing Ballard. I am so disillusioned with the unChristlike behavior of those ready to condemn publicly, in the name of truth or seeking accountability. Based on the comments on here, this seems more like a Moutsos fan club.
I don't know whether the accusations against Tim Ballard are true or false. First of all, no one can just by hearing the stories. Even a seasoned police officer can be deceived. Secondly, I cannot put confidence in serious allegations such as these if the accusers are not willing to be known. The anonymity is a red flag for me. Why are these women afraid at this point when they are no longer employed by Ballard?--Susan Morris
They are not anonymous to Tim Ballard. In a statement on The Spear Fund, he basically describes who they are. I don't blame them for being afraid to reveal their names. The cult of Tim Ballard is formidable and I don't doubt if Tim gave the word, these women would be doxed and harassed. Tim Ballard made people sign non disclosure agreements which are hard knowing how to say your truth while not having lawyers come after you. Those agreements last longer than employment. There's also the shame issue - they feel ashamed for their actions, fear of what the church will say if they are members, humiliation in public and with their friends and family, feeling beguiled and manipulated by Tim Ballard. No one wants their dirty laundry for all to hear and for lawyers to pick apart. Also, it's sad it should be this way. Women shouldn't have to feel afraid to say they've been sexually harassed but what nearly always happens is that it gets turned around and the victims get blamed. There are many allegations against Tim Ballard - he even said himself the couple's ruse was true and he even showed that picture with tattoos all over his body - he's trying to do some damage control.
Until you've been a victim of a "hero" yourself, you can't possibly know the toxic brew of painful debilitating emotions one experiences nor the fear of what will happen if you speak up against someone who is highly respected and lauded as a hero. It angers and saddens me when I hear people talk like you, judging that which they do not know or understand. I can only hope they will feel not only deep shame for their judgments when they stand before God and see the truth but that they will also feel exactly what those victims felt and then have understanding of why they were afraid to come out publically.
Exactly. Timing is key here. And this believe all women without receipts is pretty terrible. This is what happens when you go against the machine. Look at Russell Brandt
I smelled a rat from the get go. I lost an acquaintance I mentioned this to. She started calling me names and acted like I was some perv Ballard made up in his imagination.
I remember watching a documentary about his organization a while back. It’s sad to think that he was a predator masquerading as a hero who’s saving lives. Sometimes predators do this so that people don’t suspect them of anything, and it also makes it harder for victims to speak out cause people aren’t going to believe that the guy running a anti-human trafficking organization is a predator.
Interesting that he just knows she is telling the truth. Because Tim and his wife sound pretty convincing when they tell their side as well. So one side is lying or their is a major misunderstanding
@fredtheflash4805 I have heard the attorney statement. Can you post the link of the official written statement from the women? I'm not saying I think he is innocent, I'm just saying that it wouldn't be he first time people organized a lie to destroy a person's reputation. Especially if they are "anonymous." I always lean towards innocent until proven guilty.
Mr. Moutsos asks why people that knew didn’t come forward. How quickly he forgets that he rejected these allegations until he heard directly from a victim.
Did the women have a full knowledge of their participation in the ruses? If so did they not have the ability to walk away from the cos play? The document doesn’t claim that penetration occurred with any of the “victims.” I don’t support either side, my concerns are Russell Ballard’s connection, but adults have the ability to walk away if the approach isn’t what they are comfortable with.
I'm tired of hearing about NDA's when it comes to sexual crimes. I thought you can't contract for illegal things. If that's the case, NDS's can't cover illegal activities. Any lawyers that can confirm?
Everything he is saying about Tim Ballard could be said about trump yet people follow him off the cliff because of what he says he does. People don’t want to believe they are duped.
They're afraid of people like you who will judge them in the court of public opinion and crucify them with accusations that they're liars or were willing, etc, etc (ironically without any evidence) in defense of their hero.
Great interview! Thank YOU Eric Moutsos for your moral courage and fortitude. I have had to do as you have done and I thank you for your example of speaking and supporting the TRUTH letting the chips fall where they may. Come clean Tim. Come clean. It is the only way. May your wife and children be blessed to heal as well. God Bkess.
Wow. Please keep working with victims sir. I am a school teacher and Mom of a victim that took his life. It has made me do formal victims training. I added to my degree. These victims need all of us allied professionals to Educate each other. We have so many victims here at home! DEC children (Drug endangered children) getting abused behind the closed door of their “ other” home! My son was a victim and he was irreparably harmed! He took his life over it and I am fighting for Justice. Very few people is well trained! You guys have at least scratched the surface! The Cops, don’t even go and get this alledged pedophiles computers checked! How hard can it be? Caroline FEHERTY TX.
“He’s continuing to double down.” This is the most important point. He will continue to abuse women until he is put in prison. He’s not admitting fault. He will not. So he will continue to abuse women. There will be more victims. Our responsibility is to stop him before he can do even more damage.
Thank you Eric for standing by TRUTH!
What truth. Let’s wait for facts. Opinions are not true.
@@PLopezA Read. The. Court. Documents.
He's actually better at picking the winning side and shifting to it than he is at standing by the truth.
@@PLopezAit’s a little more than opinion.
Is it your opinion he was kicked out of his own company for misconduct?
Or excommunicated from his faith last month for opinions or confessions?
Or an opinion that the courts have texts from him sharing inappropriate content to people who are not his wife? Or testimonies from those close to him at fundraising events sharing that he said Elder Ballard was a silent partner and endorses his behavior and activities for raising money?
I don’t think anyone knows what a fact is anymore, and that the guy and evangelism is the only litmus test to their surroundings even though anyone with a rudimentary level of education can look at the court documents and testimonies of those close to him to see the overwhelming evidence, pray that Tim can change like all of us need to for the better and get in the path to those healing in its wake…
This is what taking accountability and integrity looks like. Thank you for admitting your mistakes and giving a voice for the victims.
The basic goal of everybody in Utah right now is to make sure the story doesn't go too national, but more importantly to make sure no white Mormons go to jail. If Ballard can produce an African American or Indigenous American who can be framed as more responsible for the scam than he and his friends there will be a s***storm.
Seriously, we need to commend when we see this in our public spaces, it’s hard to admit we are wrong!
💯
Tim Ballard’s case was dismissed yesterday…
Eric, I respect you for investigating this yourself and speaking your truth. That is the honorable yet difficult thing to do.
No, repeating what someone tells you and then claiming you believe them because, “if you know you know,” on a video is literally the easiest thing to do. Actually proving what is true in a court of law is hard, necessary and honorable. Eric is a dishonorable leech, who thankfully is no longer responsible for people’s lives as a law enforcement officer. This media campaign undermines our society’s ability to find truth, destroys people without sue process, and worse pulls along dopes like you as part of a mob.
Indeed - an Honourable Man. What a RARITY in these corrupt and cynical times!
This is profoundly sad. It’s also infuriating. I hope that Mr. Ballard repents, and I hope that he is held accountable.
If Tim repents, continues attending church services, and paying his tithe, can he be re-baptized in 1 year?
@@LizzaJo I hope not. He thinks he is going to be both US President and the LDS Prophet so he can lead us into the apocalypse. All his words in released documents.
@@LizzaJoIt would take a lot of TRUE repenting as in telling the truth and fixing what damage he has done and that would take A LOT .
@@tomasina10 Thank you for responding.
@@tomasina10wow..... but it's really sad to see how your religion has corrupted your thought process
Under your theory child grapists n unalivers can stay if it's true repentance gtfoh
It's no different than catholic priests getting moved around from church to church.
Stop the insanity. That ish is a cult
I saw Tim Ballard force a small girl to hug him after she was allegedly rescued from sex trafficking. I knew immediately that he was not a good man. For no man would ever force physical touch, even of an innocent nature, on a child who had been harmed by the touch of adult men. I was called crazy for speaking out, but I stand by what I felt and believe.
I saw him speak at UVU several years ago. He was an obvious liar and narcissist. I’ve been waiting for his downfall ever since and it came as no surprise.
Thank you for speaking out. The world needs more adults who will stand up and speak out for children.
Where was that?
@@peaceliberty4allat this point speaking out for these women seems to be the priority.
Let experts in trafficking do the work they are trained for in helping children who ate victims of abuse.
@@debbieshrubb1222 I've spoken to a detective who works on sex trafficking and child SA in my country. He had to be guarded in what he said, but did say that "TB and OUR has been on our radar for years". He was relieved that the truth is out.
OUR knew they would profit hugely from the movie. They kept quiet about Tim’s behaviour for that reason. That’s why they’re named in the lawsuit.
Particularly because they had already received complaints, and then they continued to let him be alone with more women instead of protecting them. The "couples ruse" should have been squashed as soon as the first complaint, but they ignored it. They put more women in danger. They should have exposed him the same day he was ousted- right as the movie was coming out. Now they are put in question even more so. It's all about the money for all of them. I did see a guy who was involved with OUR speaking out about Tim, and he said it's unfortunate that OUR will probably go down with Tim because they are actually starting to do good work now. No more "jumps."
He didn’t make money from the film tho.
@@deborahdobbie OUR’s profile was raised through the movie, so they for sure made money. Tim Ballard’s profile was raised as well and you can’t tell me he didn’t profit from that.
OUR did not invest in the film.
And yet the lawsuit was dismissed yesterday
Why do you keep referring to this group of women as "girls"? This has been stated by you over and over in your videos, as a former law enforcement officer you know words matter, labels such as implying the victims are children is false and very dishonest. You want us to trust what you are saying yet you keep using false labels.....are any of the victims children or were at the time of the alleged crime?
There are no winners in this awful story unfortunately. Thank you for making your voice heard Eric, especially since you were a strong supporter before you learned the truth. Appreciate Eric and Brian for this interview.
The winners are all the people, who won't donate their hard earned money to this sham non-profit.
The winners are the women who finally spoke up and let the truth be known! And stopped living in fear of a controlling narcissist. Yeah that's winning. And the people who won't be seeing the movie because we don't want to have anything to do with Ballard and his abusive behavior.
The winners are the ones who never gave a dime to OUR and called out the grifters in our wards and stakes who promoted his scams.
I never lost a dime to Tim and Katherine Ballard.
More kids will be saved as all the money Tim has stolen can be directed towards its intended purpose.
@user-fg5jf4mi6h who's saying the non profit is a sham...much good work has come from it via donations and committed employees...get rid of the problem people and hope the organization can continue with their mission
You are a force for good. You knew that speaking up would bring wrath down upon you, but you are doing what is ethical and moral.
He is trying to evade responsibility and prevent an investigation from drifting towards him and his allies.
Eric, you had a moral obligation to insist that the truth be told after conducting your own investigation. Thank you for doing that despite how difficult it must be. You were such a big supporter of Tim. Thank you for giving the victims a voice.
He is only giving a voice to the powerful federal agents and Utah cops trying to prevent the spotlight from shifting to their even worse crimes.
Still he didn't believe the women until someone he knew called him to tell him to listen.
@@reeree5259 Actually he did not support the women's side until he realized that side would be more profitable. Same as everybody else. It's not about right vs wrong, it's about which side has more power. Same thing in countless realms. Victims only get voices when they get teeth.
Who is Moutsos to do an investigation, much less go public with his conclusions?
Except for one of those cases was dismissed yesterday because it didn’t have proper evidence
Good interview.
Eric seems like a smart, level-headed, honest guy. We need more like him out in the media. Keep up the good work.
He seems credible and sincere, that's for sure.
He is smarter and slicker than Ballard, but not more honest in any way.
As for why the women didnt come forward sooner from a victims perspective you think you ate yhe only one. The guilt and shame for women is crushing. If 1 woman came forward in this political/religious enviornment she would have been flayed alive. There was only power in numbers. It had to reach a critical mass. They are brave and should be honored.
Yes, look that what happen to Stormy Daniel's, and the women Trump SAed
You are so right!
What happened to due process of law and innocent until proven guilty?
@lukasmiller486 hes counter suing. That will lead to depositions and discovery. Tim B. will hire an excellent attorney with money he gets from donations. He will have due process.
THE ENDS DO NOT JUSTIFY THE MEANS!! Amen brother thank you for speaking out!
Bless you, for speaking up for these victims.
I have to commend Eric for his attitude and words on this. I have disagreed with him on things in the past, but he is speaking clearly and responsibly here.
His goal, and the goal of the interviewer, is to frame it as something to be handled outside the courts so no 'friends of the church' and no 'powerful law enforcers' need to face accountability. Very cleverly done with sly references like "Would you recommend criminal charges...", but its gangsters managing their crimes, nothing else.
Using tortured children to lure women 🤢 into your sick role play fantasy is a special kind of evil. I’m grateful someone is standing with the victims.
And he might have been doing it to kids too. The fact that he is very obsessed with the idea of this being done to kids says a lot about him.
@@aracely909we’ll talk has been all along that he was involved in trafficking of kids especially being good friends with Hillary Clinton. He’s also a Mormon where they do Satanic rituals and kill peoples and also traffic them as well in the higher ones in that church.
Allegedly, he hasn’t been convicted
@@shanghaiffgg they’re still in the investigation phase. I’m sure he’s done so much more than what anybody knows about.
This man lives in a fantasy he created in his own head, like psychopathic people do.
Yeah, and his case was dismissed yesterday
More and more Tim is turning out to be a true con man. So sad for his victims, his wife, and his kids. We were all duped.
Much respect for Eric for standing up for the TRUTH! I believe you Eric 100%!
Very slick guy, even sharper than Ballard.
@@TribalCashAA I think he’s willing to play his role, too. They might make a movie about him. It’s nothing about kids, it’s all about 💰 it crashes me
I appreciate this man’s willingness to look again into the situation .. this kind of courageous openness to relook at ones assumptions is a rare human ability.
For members of the church. Let this be your sign that you need to sharpen your skills in discernment. I’ve been alone in thinking there was something dark about this man years ago. Whomever wants to save children in such a public way has ulterior motives. Best way to be undercover is to NOT advertise what you’re doing. Making a movie??? Sus.
Looks like the high ups in the church need to have a little better discernment when it comes to who they support and what they invest their money in too!
And yet his case was dismissed yesterday…
Thanks for your courage, Eric.
Courage? He's scared to death right now. This organization was a crock and a scam from the start and he knows it!
He will be found guilty of Racketeering under the RICO Act, and will spend at least 20 years in prison. 100% certain.
Hope so. All he is is grfter perv
Be nice if Russell M Ballard was held accountable too! He has so many business dealings that are sketchy
They would say he's innocent its President Biden attacking the right
@@christinamarston2421 I don't know the details there. I do know everything that's in the public domain about Tim, though.
@@christinamarston2421no he does not
The whole sitution makes me sad.. for his family, for his victime and for all of the negative fallout coming from the allegations
His wife and family enabled him. His wife can rot with the rest of the grifters.
Right on Mullahy! KUTV always on the beat! Love you guys!
I have a lot of respect for this guy. Wish more Christian conservatives were like him.
Was unsure whether he was being dishonest, but then noticed the American flag on his shirt so he is probably being honest. If he had a cross and a badge visible then it would remove any remaining doubts.
@@TribalCashAA😂😂.
Whether he's guilty or not. The idea that he could not have done this is absurd. Anybody is capable of anything.
What a terrible situation that we were duped by. It is a stab in the heart. Tell those women please, that they have a lot of love and support from us out here. No need to be ashamed. I am in Davis Co.
Exactly, no need to be ashamed if this is true. Why to wait until now, after the movie was released to let the world be duped. This movie was in the making for a long time.
We need facts!
@Encontrarlaverdad
Do you realize how much courage it takes for anyone to come forward as a sexual assault victim? Your question is an insult and a slap in the face to SA victims. Let's look at the girls at BYU. Remember that? The ones that got sent packing because by reporting a crime, they too were considered to be in violation of the "honor code" So now, they need to decide, is my education more important? Why would any victim of SA, want to come forward and report something so traumatic when these are the questions they will be asked? Why would any victim want to report a crime like this when the attitude of so many is to blame the victim, or question why were you there, what were you wearing, did you think that was a safe place and so on. I get it, sometimes people lie. But I cannot think of one logical reason why anyone would want to report being assaulted in this way when all you have to do is look around at the attitudes shown towards those that do come forward to know that you will be treated with suspicion and doubt. Perhaps these women didn't feel safe until now. Who knows? But does that really even matter? They came forward and saved whoever would have been next and that could have been many. So in my book they came forward and that is what matters. Sad thing is, I doubt you will even recognize the toxicity of your question. 😢
@@PLopezAthere is videos online talking about the problems with Ballard and OUR for over 2 years including from a reporter named Lynn Packer. People dont want to believe it, they prefer some unrealistic fairytale than the truth. It seems in America of you say God and Jesus in every second sentence people will believe anything you say. So much evil in religion.
@@PLopezAwow. So women who are allegedly groomed, assaulted, lied to, and had their marriages destroyed because they signed up to save children don’t matter as much to you as a man who claimed Jesus talked to him and said he would be President of the US AND the Prophet of the Mormon Church to lead us into the Apocalypse while paying a ‘psychic’ to say where kids are, and who has zero proof he ever saved any child? Wake up brother, you are being scammed.
😂Ballard is a millionaire, he doesn’t need you to defend him.
@@kimschofield911I don't think these women would have wanted the movie release to be halted..they likely wanted its truths and story to come out..this isn’t about the movie its about Ballard
Tim Ballard needs to be held accountable!! The victims need to be heard. There needs to be justice and consequences. The manipulation has run very deep, and far too many people have been hurt by him. DO NOT for one second say he is a "good guy" or " hero" if you have nothing to back it. "Based on a true movie" (SOF) doesn't mean Tim has saved children. It was a great movie with a true storyline of trafficking but Tim is not the hero they made him look like. Don't be so quick to give glory to a man who you have no idea who he is!! Let this be a lesson! Just because someone holds a title or leadership in ANY organization that they are automatically good people just because you've been taught/told to believe it. Great interview, Eric!
Is there any proof that Tim Ballard saved any children?
This is so tragic for all involved. I have appreciated your information and insight Eric. Not only on this matter but on all the information you bring. Keep it up! I am praying for healing for these women.
A person is innocent until proven guilty. And the fact that you are all not keeping this quiet until after a trial, makes me think that this is all a conspiracy against him because he's been ruining your craft!
Go and look up the lawsuit filed by woman #6 who is referred to in the 60+ page lawsuit as AA. It is remarkable. And it aligns with the lawsuit from the other women. AA was Tim’s personal assistant and greatest confidant. It’s eye-opening to say the least.
Brian is a great interviewer. Excellent questions and time for thoughtful answers.
He will never be trusted again. He was also believing some really weird stuff and listening to a psychic and thinking he was suppose to usher in the second coming of Christ as a prophet. Which is complete nuts .And also going to the same therapist as Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow, and Tim was claiming the rescued children were getting after care from the same therapist. And Tim and Chad and Lori all believed crazy things.
Sounds like a demonic spirit got into Tim, He needs to get delivered from this.. minister in the deliverance ministry can cast that out..
Devil prowls around to devour those who he can..
Really? The Julie Rowe character??
"He was very strategic in what he was doing", reminds of the LDS church,where he is/was taught, which hides and keeps silence many intentional inappropriate behaviours within their authority. They are very good at staying quiet.
Thanks Eric for wanting to seek truth and stand by it, even when it’s hard. It’s personal for me, I know all the players and I appreciate your voice in this!!
Utah attorney general Sean Reyes and the Mormon church patriarchy/theocracy were all turning a blind eye.
Now they are stepping far far away…..distancing themselves from Tim.
He left OUR months ago.
He embarrassed OUR & his church. His church has chastised him…..
possibly excommunicated.
Follow the money!!!
Follow the facts.
How many children were rescued?
Trafficking is a problem but so are fake heroes.
No they were not .
No they were not .
@@lindamartinez7006apparently they were until very recently!
People always start blaming the Church. Are they supposed to know everyone's life?
I question if he has ever saved any children at all. I don't know of any victims or families who have ever come forward in support of tim ballard's claims. Instead, it's the opposite. If he really saved children, where are they? Where are their families? If I or the children of my life had ever been trafficked and ballard was our rescuer, I would be shouting from the rooftops about his heroism and thanking him every time I opened my mouth.
Like Qanon it seems like he just wrecked families and no children get saved, it’s a huge profitable grift.
I often wondered what ever happened to these children.
@@cherylduvall4714 So right. Where are the shelters or orphanages he claimed to be building? Where is the evidence that he saved anybody? There is no evidence. He constantly claimed thst OUR was working "worldwide". He wasn't. He would have to work with other genuine organisations, usually consisting of government backed officers. He wouldn't allow that. TB preferred South America, because he knew he could get away with anything.
He was making it up, just like a lot of other people have been making it up with the online fake child predator sting operations. The people who conduct those are not much different from Tim Ballard. They are pathological liars, just like Tim Ballard. Everybody who has conducted a fake child predator sting operation should be investigated. There are so many red flags there that they are the sexual predators themselves.
They do t want you to know. What are you saying that sex trafficking of children doesn't exist. That there aren't people who free them!
Thank you for speaking out on the truth.
Thank you for this great interview!
Thank you Eric for bravely admitted you know he's guilty of these allegations. I admire you for speaking out. Knowing you have talked to the women and believe them helps us in the public to know he's guilty too because we respect your discernment. I'm sorry he's disappointed you as a friend you believed in. It's a very sad situation all around. Please continue to be there for these women. I will keep them in my prayers and you as well 🙏💜
Wouldn't have discernment been if he stopped it happening early? I'm glad Eric is taking ownership also, but what he has it the opposite of discernment. He's scared
Being there for these women? How about being there for his friend, Tim ??
@@magorzatasanchez736 I agree with you. All of these "allegations" of sexual abuse came out shortly AFTER Sound of Freedom. Makes me question these women's credibility. I would have this guy crossed examined for his credibility also. Sounds like a Kavanaugh case.
His case was dismissed yesterday though
Thank you so very much Eric, this is not easy. God calls on us ALL to speak truth even when it is NOT popular!! May God protect you!!! Thank you for what you do for TRUTH.
People tend to think it is so easy to speak up. At first you are in denial because you can't reconcile the behavior with the person you thought you knew. When you finally realize it's true then you consider the damage speaking up will cause to people, or a cause, you know and care about and it isn't so easy.
This former Salt Lake City cop is not in denial, he has known all along. Wake up and smell the coffee--oh, wait. You probably don't drink coffee. But, still open your eyes up wide and look!
@@wolfpowers36 My eyes are wide open thank you, I am one of the few that wasn't fooled by TIm and OUR from the moment I heard about them. I was speaking to the psychology of why people don't speak up in cases like this and I stand by what I said.
We did say things earlier. (Years ago!)
Tim and others of OUR helped pursue getting a fake stalking/gag order on my wife and I. Eventually my wife was forced to sign an NDA.
O.U.R. has disrupted a billion dollar business.
This was not a mistake. It was deliberate at every turn.
What he said. My husband was reading the court documents last week as I sat beside him, doing my own thing. I glanced over occasionally and read finding such offensive material, and eventually was sucked into x rated content. Wow, I felt sick going to bed that night… God bless those women and bring them justice. Men of power and money are easily tempted to use “unrighteousness”and evil dominion.
You don't see anything in the move. Good on Eric tho.
Shouldn’t we wait for a conviction and not get ahead of ourselves?
@@shanghaiffgg No, that's only for the court room, not public opinion
@@bradfordhamilton3021 that is precisely the problem. The only thing that matters are convictions.
@@shanghaiffgg Not really, most crimes in this country go unpunished and guilty are found not guilty on occasion.
This sounds like Trump.!!!!
Yeah, exactly like Trump… Even to the point of that, the case was dismissed by a judge
It takes a lot courage to speak up like Eric has especially being the only one when it’s not what people want to hear.
After reading the lawsuits for myself and hearing Tim try to defend himself it’s obvious these women aren’t making this up. It’s heartbreaking and infuriating.
Seriously. Eric is probably receiving threats from Tim’s cult following.
I'm seeing a lot of emotion statements about people feel about allegations, but I haven't yet seen concrete documented reports or allegations made through proper investigative channels, so I'm asking where to find those.
Just because I haven't seen them doesn't mean they don't exist. But I find it suspect that everyone talks about their emotions and no one is saying any like concrete facts.
I'm sure it's emotional.
But legal matters aren't about emotion or public opinion.
If there are criminal allegations, those should be thoroughly investigated and I hope they are so people can either find justice go the full extent of the law or be exhonerated, based on evidence, like legal evidence.
Saying something is heartbreaking or abhorrent (even if it is your emotional truth about abuse) isn't the same thing as saying [for fictional example]: "On such-and-such date, at approximately X:YZ time, A Big Bear put his genitals on my leg during a business meeting."
That was a fictional example of a legal allegation or report.
I have never had a business meeting with a bear of any size.
Documented or verifiable evidence would be helpful in recovering truth and I don't know why this is all for public circus rather than saving statements for the courtroom.
I just don't get it, I guess.
As a victim of childhood sexual abuse who was not believed and victim shamed myself I applaud Eric for standing up for these women. I wanted Tim to be good, all the way good so badly, but at the cost of truth being lost and buried? I had a family member who was horrifically sra abused and he became a physical therapist who worked specifically on sra victims, to help them become healed from this sort of trauma. He went to prison for the same type of things Tim was doing to his victims. It doesn’t get much worse then abusing women in the name of God and as a man of authority. That is pure evil. Doing a little bit of good doesn’t justify doing bad as well. Thank you Eric for wanting truth and doing what it takes to get it. For putting yourself on the line for it. I as well have been called a pedo for standing up for these women, yes me who has lived with cptsd due to the abuse I had as a child. Wild what people are willing to say and make okay in their minds in order to worship a false leader and continue to live safely in their minds.
Also most people will never understand what kind of toll it takes on a victim to finally have a voice. These women are brave, thank God for them.
You realize Tim Ballard has helped countless children being sex trafficked.
Research -Myths and Facts about women and children sex trafficking . State's rated highest for human trafficking. California Texas Florida New York Michigan Ohio Georgia Illinois Missouri Mississippi, Arizona is main destination and transit point for child sex and hard labor, Tucson is headquarters 6584 N Oracle Rd, it's a spa. Sheriff Chris Nanos and wife Charlene Nanos operate it. Law enforcement and system are human trafficking.
These were grown women and it was consensual. I’m sorry you were abused as a child, but these were adult women who were willing partners.
@@vestagirl8484 I say shame on Tim Ballard and the women and husband . Full grown azz adults having sex on donated 💲💲 GREEDY !! The women were not beat , threatened or held against their will. Real victim's are .
@@vestagirl8484 you obviously have never been sexually assaulted as a grown woman. You have no idea if this was concentual. Are you in these women’s heads? Do you know their past? Do you know if they wanted to help save the kids because of their own traumatic childhoods that lead them to be victims over and over again? A man who carries that kind of authority can get away with threats and passive aggressive behavior as he did because he prays on victims and creates his own. You need to study this out more my friend. Go listen to his friends that left, he was excommunicated and fired for these things. Go listen to the pain in the victims voices. We all wanted him to be who he portrays himself to be. We need to also want truth far more than safe lies.
Frankly I’m surprised this ex cop didn’t question more. I think the TB hero stories are egotistical horsesh!t
And you should question this ex-cop! Please, keep questioning.
Two wrongs never makes a right!
Kudos for believing these women. But you undermine your outrage when you say this isn't like "kavanaugh". So you condem men for this behavior when you decide the victim is telling the truth but you get to decide if another womans story is real.
Excellent interview. Thank you. I myself loved Tim Ballard and was forced to check my biases and revaluate my opinion.
It is not okay to turn a blind eye.
Rescuing children in my view is THE most important task. Trust me there are plenty of hard working clean living men rescuing children whom you all can support.
Forget the hero-worshiping!!
Whether it's politics, religion or anything else, once the cult "hero worship" begins, and discrimination is put
on the back seat, it's a down hill slide. No man is above the law.
I agree 💯. The hero worship is making people blind to reality.
His case was dismissed yesterday though
After working for a nonprofit for 11 years as a forensic accountant I know they need a lot more oversite than they get.
What is a "kavanaugh" moment???? Is Kavanaugh's victim less believable than Ballard's??
Kavanaugh’s victim isn’t believable at all if you really look into the case. It was nothing but trumped up charges. And it appears that this case is also being dismissed for Tim Ballard as of yesterday.
A vital principle of freedom is that the accused gets to face their accusers? Yet, they're afraid to show who they are?
In a court of law, not in the court of public opinion!
This is so disappointing… He must have lost his mind!!!! Justice for the victims ! Good job sir! (Former Tim Ballard fan here !) .
Just to add thank you for speaking out Eric.
Eric was a low level less than mediocre cop. Not an investigator of any kind. Don’t believe him. He knows nothing. He seeks fame. He has auditioned for things on tv and was an aspiring actor. Looking for fame.
I might not always agree with Eric’s stance on things however I am glad he’s actually speaking out on this. My only question is when the rumors started swirling months ago why was everyone so silent and still promoted him as a hero? Specifically when the movie was released?
These women have every reason to be scared. Look back to the things one of TB’s buddies SR did to his opponent when running for office. The power and money of this group of misfits is disturbing.
Have any of your investigative journalists looked into CNF (Katherine’s venture under OUR/TB and the supposed 223 kids and 145 grants (March 2022 numbers quoted). For some reason there’s been zero transparency on these situations and we’ve got 223 kids they claim to have helped. They also said they worked with 7 agencies to accomplish this. I’d love an actual journalist to dig into this because the further I’ve researched the more questions I have.
Was the actor who portrayed him in the movie also duped?
@@jordan-xe2yb I doubt he was privy to much of the back end of things but imo he is as problematic with his extreme Q beliefs and bs he also spews. I’ve done deep dives on a lot of them and he’s one I’ve spent a ton of time researching so although I think he’s problematic I can’t say he was privy to the info before either.
@@jordan-xe2yb imo I also believe he was hand selected to play TB because of his very extreme beliefs also. I’m not sure how many ops he went on himself before the filming of the movie if any honestly. It’s hard to vet a lot of info because imo they are all liars. I’ve been extremely vocal about this for months and got shadow banned cause how dare we call out the Rich and powerful “hero”!
Moving from southern California into the small town, Utah thinking... It is incredibly sad how frightened these people are of unknown outsiders...
The long lasting heritage habit is, All gentiles are Guilty! Until they Prove innocent. . .
There is overriding, built up jealousy, for those who accomplish their goals; Rising above The Crabs in the bucket syndrome rude folk...
And the control People who have millions to lose invested into trafficking.
The firesides done over the years by Tim are always full of the Holy Spirit's enlightening light.
Tim books he's written, putting together true journaling; Personal records of the testimonies of our for Father's belief of the importance of a Free Christ serving country. The best gathered information by Tim! put into true history books!!!
Truly there's a dark force out there that HATES Tim...
And will pay big money for lies and fabrication to destroy Tim and save their world controlling plans.
Really good people will let the laws of the constitution, that defend a man, until proven evidence proves otherwise!
Not the views of the, "Here say and They say" Small town, jealous, fearful minded, pull others down crabs in the bucket, people
@@jordan-xe2ybnot really, they believe the same qanon beliefs.
'you know when you know' is nonsense when it comes to accusations of high profile persons of this nature. These kinds of accusations need real evidence. I would never do this kind of interview based on mere accusations. Defaming someone like this is unacceptable. If solid evidence comes out, then that is the time for interviews like this. You are completely discredited for this nonsense. 'keep your powder dry and wait '..that would be great advice for you to follow, Eric.
So you don't know. I read the court documents and that was enough for me, and when he said, "You know when you know," I knew exactly what he meant. People who have never been involved in this kind of behavior, whether a victim or law enforcement, don't get it. I have dealt with SO MANY men with similar behavior, I knew the stories were not fabrications. I bet speaking with the victims made it even more apparent. Even before all this, I knew that Tim was a grifter and a liar. I never believed a word that came out of his mouth. It's the people who have no discernment who have put him on a pedestal that are having issues believing he would do these things. Just follow all the $$ and the numerous organizations created by and for all these people. They are all friends and family and officers paying themselves six figures- up to $500,000+. Way too much questionable behavior.
Saying he can be forgiven and become the leader he wanted to be…yeah in prison he can lead the other criminals in his crazy beliefs.
I commend Eric Moutsos for this.
I think what this gentleman is missing is that Tim Ballard has not been “saving children.”
Thank you, Eric
I thought the accusers didn't want to relive the horrible things Tim did but the accusers are talking to everyone apparently.
Stop at Chuck! The fact that they are brave enough to come forward at all is amazing. And when they've been threatened and bulldozed by the likes of Tim and his buddies they are probably extremely afraid and they found a few people with a kind listening ear and now they have found a lawyer. And making fun of them is not cute or OK and it's a bad look for any man
@@ajensen366or brave enough to lie.
There was something I noticed when going to an O.U.R. event. It just felt off. Something didn't feel right. Even though I know we were supposed to be there for the sake of the kids in bondage, it just didn't feel right. I didn't know what it was, but it was probably the fact that it was based on lies and abuse at least in part.
Thank you for speaking!
As someone who has followed Eric moustous for a while from a distance to see where he ends up in all the crazy that’s going on since before covid regarding this topic and religion and other state affairs etc, it’s glad to finally see someone with his voice state the obvious and to be so refreshingly honest.
So people who disagree with Moutos's conclusions have cognitive dissonance? His research consists mostly of interviewing women accusers (whom he calls victims), some of whom are apparently still participating in the operations. It seems manipulative that he cherry picks from those who disagree with him the most extreme ones who call him a pedophile, and not any of the logical arguments. For instance, that it was not his business to interview these women, nor was it the place of these women to go to social media figures to poison public opinion, and therefore a jury pool, as they remained anonymous and even before charges were filed. Or that interviewing these women accusers, no matter how convincing, doesn't represent the whole story and that accusations are not facts, even if they are all similar. (Might just mean they are orchestrated). Guilty or innocent, Tim Ballard has no chance of a fair hearing, considering the condition of our jury system and the now poisoned pool of public opinion, thanks at least partially to these social media figures, many of whom seem to be full of themselves and their "courage" at taking on a subject that they should have stayed out of. Naturally, many of them say it is hard for them to do and even feign tears, yet they keep banging the drum against Ballard, and seem to be getting a lot of publcity and ego-enhancing coverage, such as this interview. Moutsos and others rationalize this public social media lynching by saying they are seeking truth and truth matters. Yet, we don't know the truth, just Moutsos' version that he has assimilated from the accusers. There is more info to be considered than what Moutsos is getting from these women. Interesting also to see Moutsos on the same side as Utah's governor. LOL. Innocent until proven guilty seems to have no place in publicizing and commenting on these accusations. (Perhaps I should say commenting, and commenting endlessly.)Whether Ballard is innocent, guilty or somewhere in between, Moutsos and other social media figures are full of themselves when they think it is their place to present accusations and give opinions on something that should be a matter for a Bishop and now a court system, while at the same time stating that his opinins are the "truth" and we must face all face the truth and heal, as if he is doing something altrustic.. Social media has become very dangerous when figures with large platforms take upon themselves this role, regardless of how confident they are in their "rightness". Setting aside the Ballard case, if social media figures can use their influence in this way, we have to consider the destruction that they could do to a innocent person who was made to look guilty (which could apply to apply to Ballard).. What Moutsos and others are doing is so divisive and destructive. This is not the Lord's way and is not righteous, regardless of the claims of truth-seeking and wanting to see accountability. THAT IS FOR THE BISHOP AND THE COURTS, NOT MOUTSOS OR ANYONE ELSE. (.And yes, I have read the documents and I see a lot of accusations, smears and uglines that appeal to emotions and can cause people to get upset, but no evidence or facts.) I will wait to form an opinion when FACTS and EVIDENCE are presented, not emotional accusations. And if the facts indicate guilt of something or of everything accused, I will form an opinion, but I will not participate in publicly denouncing Ballard. I am so disillusioned with the unChristlike behavior of those ready to condemn publicly, in the name of truth or seeking accountability. Based on the comments on here, this seems more like a Moutsos fan club.
Exactly!
No matter where the dust falls, the truth is always necessary.
I don't know whether the accusations against Tim Ballard are true or false. First of all, no one can just by hearing the stories. Even a seasoned police officer can be deceived. Secondly, I cannot put confidence in serious allegations such as these if the accusers are not willing to be known. The anonymity is a red flag for me. Why are these women afraid at this point when they are no longer employed by Ballard?--Susan Morris
They are not anonymous to Tim Ballard. In a statement on The Spear Fund, he basically describes who they are. I don't blame them for being afraid to reveal their names. The cult of Tim Ballard is formidable and I don't doubt if Tim gave the word, these women would be doxed and harassed. Tim Ballard made people sign non disclosure agreements which are hard knowing how to say your truth while not having lawyers come after you. Those agreements last longer than employment. There's also the shame issue - they feel ashamed for their actions, fear of what the church will say if they are members, humiliation in public and with their friends and family, feeling beguiled and manipulated by Tim Ballard. No one wants their dirty laundry for all to hear and for lawyers to pick apart. Also, it's sad it should be this way. Women shouldn't have to feel afraid to say they've been sexually harassed but what nearly always happens is that it gets turned around and the victims get blamed. There are many allegations against Tim Ballard - he even said himself the couple's ruse was true and he even showed that picture with tattoos all over his body - he's trying to do some damage control.
Don't victim shame. Something really stinks here. Keep an open mind.
Until you've been a victim of a "hero" yourself, you can't possibly know the toxic brew of painful debilitating emotions one experiences nor the fear of what will happen if you speak up against someone who is highly respected and lauded as a hero. It angers and saddens me when I hear people talk like you, judging that which they do not know or understand. I can only hope they will feel not only deep shame for their judgments when they stand before God and see the truth but that they will also feel exactly what those victims felt and then have understanding of why they were afraid to come out publically.
Exactly. Timing is key here. And this believe all women without receipts is pretty terrible.
This is what happens when you go against the machine. Look at Russell Brandt
He had the Utah Attorney general on his payroll.
Mad respect for you, sir!
Never choose Tim for Senate
I don’t want Tim Ballard to emerge a leader!
I want him him in jail
His charges were dismissed yesterday because there wasn’t sufficient evidence of anything
Why didn't they say something before?
Waiting to see how much money the film would make. $$$$$$&&&
Gossip to hurt a man who tried to help many people in deep trouble. Why is there no proof?
The proof will be revealed when the case goes to court. Maybe read the lawsuits.
Eric Moutsos throwing shade at the Ballards' cult as if he wasn't doing THE EXACT SAME THING WHILE HE WAS IN THE CULT!!!!
I smelled a rat from the get go. I lost an acquaintance I mentioned this to. She started calling me names and acted like I was some perv Ballard made up in his imagination.
I love this male witness for believing & supporting the victims. He is an extremely credible witness.
The LDS church needs to come out and speak the truth
I remember watching a documentary about his organization a while back. It’s sad to think that he was a predator masquerading as a hero who’s saving lives. Sometimes predators do this so that people don’t suspect them of anything, and it also makes it harder for victims to speak out cause people aren’t going to believe that the guy running a anti-human trafficking organization is a predator.
So horribly sad! 😪
Thank you Eric, I’m a christian and we must stand with the truth. Even if it’s one of our own
Interesting that he just knows she is telling the truth. Because Tim and his wife sound pretty convincing when they tell their side as well. So one side is lying or their is a major misunderstanding
@fredtheflash4805 I have heard the attorney statement. Can you post the link of the official written statement from the women? I'm not saying I think he is innocent, I'm just saying that it wouldn't be he first time people organized a lie to destroy a person's reputation. Especially if they are "anonymous." I always lean towards innocent until proven guilty.
Bathe this situation in prayer.
My rapist was a minister. Now let me explain about rape. The rapist is a monster in human form and they are out to destroy the victims soul.
Well it doesn’t surprise me. The support he’s getting. If these people believe in religion. A cult Well then They can be conned easily
Shame
Every one deserves their day in court. And to face their accusers. We all want that for ourselves.
Craig Sawyer needs to be investigated as well according to other sources.
I agree. Own it. An apology goes a long way.
Mr. Moutsos asks why people that knew didn’t come forward. How quickly he forgets that he rejected these allegations until he heard directly from a victim.
And yet, Tim’s case was dismissed yesterday by a judge
Did the women have a full knowledge of their participation in the ruses? If so did they not have the ability to walk away from the cos play? The document doesn’t claim that penetration occurred with any of the “victims.” I don’t support either side, my concerns are Russell Ballard’s connection, but adults have the ability to walk away if the approach isn’t what they are comfortable with.
I'm tired of hearing about NDA's when it comes to sexual crimes. I thought you can't contract for illegal things. If that's the case, NDS's can't cover illegal activities. Any lawyers that can confirm?
Everything he is saying about Tim Ballard could be said about trump yet people follow him off the cliff because of what he says he does. People don’t want to believe they are duped.
Thank you so much for making this clear.
What are the true accusations against Tim Ballard ? And why are these women supposedly afraid of ?
They're afraid of people like you who will judge them in the court of public opinion and crucify them with accusations that they're liars or were willing, etc, etc (ironically without any evidence) in defense of their hero.
There is no "coming back from this" for Tim Ballard. This wasn't a one time misjudgment on his part. This is systemic evil.
Great interview! Thank YOU Eric Moutsos for your moral courage and fortitude. I have had to do as you have done and I thank you for your example of speaking and supporting the TRUTH letting the chips fall where they may. Come clean Tim. Come clean. It is the only way. May your wife and children be blessed to heal as well. God Bkess.
Wow. Please keep working with victims sir. I am a school teacher and Mom of a victim that took his life. It has made me do formal victims training. I added to my degree. These victims need all of us allied professionals to Educate each other. We have so many victims here at home! DEC children (Drug endangered children) getting abused behind the closed door of their “ other” home! My son was a victim and he was irreparably harmed! He took his life over it and I am fighting for Justice. Very few people is well trained! You guys have at least scratched the surface! The Cops, don’t even go and get this alledged pedophiles computers checked! How hard can it be? Caroline FEHERTY TX.
Hang in there Eric, the truth will come out and you will be awarded for telling the truth.
“He’s continuing to double down.” This is the most important point. He will continue to abuse women until he is put in prison. He’s not admitting fault. He will not. So he will continue to abuse women. There will be more victims. Our responsibility is to stop him before he can do even more damage.