maybe she channels all her energy into her vocals. Even on BBMA performance, she seems like she's focusing on her voice and barely move, which is fine.
@@GreybellI think its bc there’s too manu pre-recorded vocals and she’s trying to stay focused to remember the part when she’s on singing, compared to in 2022 they weren’t that many prerecorded vocals
Unfortunately 2022 has probably been her worst vocal state. But she definitely bounced back a bit in 2023 with her new pretty and healthy tone. Hope she drops songs soon to get herself back in the game
you know what I just noticed that Mariah literally repeated her 90s eras from 2017 to 2023. Music Box (mid belt major) went to Daydream (upper belt major) in 2 years, then to Rainbow (new low) in 4 years, then to Glitter (better tone & prelude to second prime) in a year. And now 2017 (very nice mid belts) went to 2019 (more ease in 5th octave I guess) in two years, then to 2022 (worst state yet) in 4 years, then to 2023 in 1 year, which I'm guessing is Glitter 2.0 because Glitter is also known for its healthier tone & excessive lipping. And tbh it really wasn't until late 2003 that Mariah's upper belts actually got better. Like almost everything above C5 from 2001 to 2002 was a struggle💀
@@kingjuicy3023 actually that sounds about right. I just get the sense that 2018-2019 is a little more fluid throughout the fourth octave than 2016-2017. For Vision of Love for example 2019 definitely feels like it's easier on her than 2017 was, which is kind of the vibe I get for Daydream too
2022 was so weird; it was like her voice lost the ability to carry a tune at all, and nothing sounded melodic. normally, her "bad vocals" always just sounded like she was tired or overworked, but 2022 straight up sounded like she lost the ability to sing. that melodic quality is SOO back, though, and i'm so excited to see her in a few weeks!
definitely, i'm really happy with her transitions and fluidity right now. also her sustained notes in 4th octave are a lot better too & her breath control has improved.
Definitely her voice sounds much healthier than it has in awhile. I was so worried for her in 2022, but this is good. I just hope she sings live more again and gets back to her pre-pandemic days
Mariah’s voice is really interesting and instable. I watch her singing live for 20 years and everytime we think It’s gone it just come back. I really think Mariah’s voice could be aways great with better care.
LOOK there’s a few singers who, I give grace to because of their range, age and years of performing LIVE…And that’s Aretha, Chaka , Patti and Mariah. They’ve proven their greatness! PERIODT
you just put her in category she does not belo0ng. She does perform live and people like Aretha and patti were already performing when Mariah was a toddler. Infcat Aretha was older than Mariah's current age in Divas 98 and we all know how she handled all the girls in that concert.... She was 57! and she had g5s.
@odumosuolusegun2781 ALL of them were touring, performing and making hits when she was a toddler ( especially Chaka). My point is your voice changes after a while and the range gets narrow. For the singers who have given their all for decade and who were ACTUALLY singing night after night on tour- I give them grace.. I do, don't mean others have to or will! I just understand it and them!
@@butterdream too optimistic but I hope she goes back to her typical lip sync formula, something like Banyan tree I don't mind or even like Christmas 2022
i was worried about this tour because of last year but her condition is improving 🥳 i was at the show in denver last night and she was unbelievably fantastic (and even prettier up close!)
Were the playback vocals obvious when watching live? Us lambs could tell in the videos since we've known her forever but I'm just wondering if the lipped parts sound believable when you're in the venue.
@@markfrancisph no they were not! that’s something i didn’t even realize until after the concert. yes, playback is obvious in videos, but it’s not at all obvious in person - it’s almost impossible to tell. the only time i remembered she was lipping was when she fumbled a brief part of joy to the world 😭
@@betterhavemymoney Oh wow. That's great to hear. I think it won't really be obvious for the majority of people. We lambs only know so much because we watch a lot of videos here on UA-cam like the vocal showcase and such. Haha.
Some C5 are for April 2023 soundboard ( playback - lipped ), some are flat singed, some are amazing attepmt ❤❤❤ Mariah gets his voice back, I think next year will be 2016 level , 2025 Mariah vocals will be 2015 level, 2026 will be 2014 - 2013! I predict some things, I feeling it! Wait two year and Mariah will get a new 4 prime!❤ Ameriacan idol prime🙏🏻
@@KrisSongwriter23i don't know what you're trying to get but i was referring to the performance of hero in denver 2023 and were blessed that mariah's voice is decent again but i hope that she will even get better next year
definitely sounds much better than last year!! but i do miss the 90’s sounding whistles and she was sick last year too. she could barley speak in some tiktok videos she made last year during this time.
What I can see is that she put a lot more effort into singing in 2022 but her voice wasn’t having it. And she’s taking it easy in 2023 while having much more potential. You can see it in her face. So let’s hope she uses her voice to its full potential in the later dates. Hopefully some more D5s and Eb5s.
Yes! Like that show at Banyan Tree, she was giving full vocal acrobatics, energy and EVERYTHING but her voice was just so so tired that could not keep it up. Rn she just needs to feel that comfortable again and she will be slaying them vocals
She still has 12 out of 16 dates to go! Aside for the next two shows which are three days apart, the remaining 10 will be held every other day, which will help exercise her voice consistently for about 20 days. I think her peak for this tour will start right after the three day break.
@@devinjm007 NYC night 2 (I'm assuming that's the one you saw) is definitely better, but she always prepares extra well & goes all out for important shows, so I didn't think it would be fair to compare the absolute peak of 2022 with plain old Denver💀
See the best thing for Mariah’s voice is practice. Every tour if we notice her voice generally gets stronger and stronger with each date. Because, it’s being used again. She seems more confident and she’s sounding better with every date. I just wish we didn’t have to go through this every time. I think she should really work with a vocal coach and a doctor that’s not her friends. Start making real decisions about getting it to a consistently healthy place. If we need to get the nodules removed let’s do it! I don’t care if she loses her whistle register we’ve heard a million of those live from our diva. She doesn’t need it anymore. I would much rather a healthier full belt and overall voice than whistle tones anyway. I don’t need to hear songs in the original key anymore. Retool them to lower keys and give it to us. A great example is Beyoncé. Her voice has darkened and mature with age. She changed all of her keys to fit that, we can do the same. Just my opinion I’m sure I will be attacked which is fine lol.
She can still lip them and I wouldn't care a bit if she actually BELTS (majority of her songs are belted anyway), also it'll help her to gain consistency in head voice as well which isn't present now
@@misterbee66 exactly like we can only cover so much for our Queen. You have to want it more than we do. Like I’m sick of wondering if the climax is live or not. She should be sick of it. Like we are willing to work with you but you have to give us something. We shouldn’t have over an hour concert but only able to compile 2-5 mins of good parts smh.
I went to her concert on Sunday 11/19th @ the Hollywood bowl. It was freaken cold outside. Her concert was awesome & magical. I sat in the garden area, the 16th row w a perfect seat & view .
Very likely. She had bronchitis right before her 2014 tour, that’s why she sounded horrible in Tokyo. But her vocals gradually improved after her Japan dates.
She's obviously protecting her voice and probably realized that things weren't going well for her when she had lipped VOL. She is also lip-syncing more now but with new pre-recorded tracks and im here for it!!! Nothing wrong with that and I think she is taking singing lessons as well. I just wish she would put more effort into the performances. Of course she is already 50 seconds old now but still, making it obvious to lip and standing on the same place for half an hour isnt really that kind of thing which you expect for an expensive concert. Much love from germany darlingssss!!!🎅
yesss I think she said something about a musical doctor (which I'm assuming is the same thing as a vocal coach) on her first night of tour. Also I'm dying to hear her sing VOL in her current voice, hope she does it soon
@@tonybs03 I honestly can't find it sorry😭 I just remember it was on the first night in Highland, and she was saying that her "musical doctor" had suggested her to add a certain Christmas song to her setlist this year. I can't remember which one it was though😭
I think why her breath control has been so bad is cause of corsets, She had gained weight before but her waist stayed small, which def sounds like a corset. Her waist is always tiny at shows but not in paparazzi shots / candid videos. I think the corsets make her breathing way too restricted, but since she slimmed down this year i don't think theres a corset, or at least not as tight.
If she actually cared about her current vocal state I think she could improve a lot more, but she clearly doesn't care and I get her, if I was a legend I wouldn't bother as well, not like she has anything to prove anymore
*its bizarre.. how strikingly different her demeanor/energy/personality was in 2022 and now.. its like she became this manic, weird acting lady during the plandemic, and NOW shes finally settling back to the Mariah who is calm, focused and talented again*
The only thing I hate about her technique is the hand gestures.. it’s like she’s solely focusing on trying not to screw up to where she’s forgetting to breathe and just relax.
I don’t think 2023’s best days are as good as 2022’s, but her worst days aren’t as bad either. Her lipping more in 2023 is helping with that I think. Both years are pretty terrible for her if I’m being honest. I hope it’s just a rough couple of years for her and it bounces back like 2014. I don’t like the general direction her voice is going or the lip syncing and hope we can forget about these two years in the future. I like her whistle notes and her low notes when she’s doing them. They sound the best they have since like 2014
i’m curious to how her new album is turning out since she said she recorded some of it last year and has to do more recordings this year. Both very different vocal conditions
it will probably be very confusing with all these upcoming projects. she has 200 hours of music she has recorded since 2020. and her voice has changed a lot in 3 years.
Mariah just needs to pull another emancipation and show these new folks who she is cauzelast year so many people who saw her 2022 performances as there introduction to her live genuinely think Mariah can't sing
yeah she needs some kind of a Beacon moment (emancipation was more music-centered and not vocals I think) because 2022 was like 2014 all over again. I think she's ready but she just hasn't made it "official" yet. Like if she gives a proper televised concert sometime soon with minimal lipping and good preparation, she can definitely get her live reputation back
@@butterdream yeah heavy on the Lipping part it be hard to defend her when she lips so heavily sometimes and she's not particularly good at it.. but recently she's been giving us a good mix of live and pre recorded
I love her but i seriously doubt it. In my opinion, vocla improvement ks her working with a coach re learning how to sing with her nodukes since she doesnt want to remove them. They might be better but not necessarily improved. I do wish her a healthy vocal recovery from the last 20+ years, though. her throat is honestly tired.
I wonder if she is taking care of her voice now, like she got a vocal teacher or something. I think she also lost a bit of weight too which might help too.
She is just starting the current tour so we still didn’t got her current peak. The dates comparisons are fair enough Even while i don’t like comparisons because there’s only One Mariah carey who did what she had to do!!
@@urblack7954 But imagine how that makes her feel. The first thing her fans are focused on when steps out is if shes gonna belt a C5 w resonance. It puts her under constant pressure tbh
The fact people have to make zillions of videos and spend hours talking about it clearly shows her voice is not improving. Every year is the same, everything fades away - pun intended 😅. It's like Whitney Houston, I hoped every year that her voice would improve. Well it didn't
Well depends on how you define improvement. If you expected Whitney to suddenly sing like it was 1992, then yeah she didn’t improve. But for what it’s worth she actually did get a lot better from her state in 2005-2006 by the time she passed.
There really isnt any improvement. I know yall looking for positives and i get it. The only difference between the 2 are she was definetly sick in the 2022 shows, along side her vocal damage. In 2023, we have no sickness, but her vocal damage remains. Her range and quality hasnt changed much since 2022. And shes lipping even more of the 2023 shows. This tour was not a good idea for her whatsoever
I can see your point tbh. but her approach to belting and just phrasing/legato in general is noticeably better than even early 2023. Even the non-belting parts in the Hark the Herald intro have some of the best tone and fluidity she's displayed since quarantine. It's just that her voice is still pretty stiff past B4, but I hope that will improve as she gets more practice
@@butterdream I dunno about that. She struggles with every single phrase with every single song 😭 she just cannot transition her registers at all. Every one of her registers are choppy besides her lower register. Everything just seems so difficult and painful 😭 This tour is just so unnecessary for her it just boggles the mind that she's doing this to herself
@@ryanallen8455 She was in a real bad shape vocally but nothing have been said of Mariah being sick and your eyes aren’t a factual argument to prove that she was sick So your opinion is not a fact! The point of the video is her voice sounding healthier than last year’s chistmass shows which clearly does and it’s not even debatable.
Let's accept the fact Mariah simply doesn't care about her voice anymore. When she is asked by someone about her vocal status, she has the propensity to sound the most generic possible. What is recquired to sound better is discipline. She has to regularly a week exercise her vocals under the supervision of a professional, reduce alcohol, tabagism, to do a follow up with a specialized doctor and by her age and time of career she probably isn't interested. She can rely now on the fact she is older, but this is partially wrong: she has a pathology. She knows what.
Get the mind right and layoff the booze; then and only then will the voice improve. MARIAH needs to decide if she wants to sing or be a statue/mannequin?
What is her voice improving from? Mariah to my knowledge hasn't given any explanation to her vocal decline. I would be more empathetic, sympathetic and supportive if she did. However, it comes across as narcissistic arrogance and entitlement; seeing her stand in one spot, more worried and focused on her hair, makeup and "ensemble than her vocal performance. Her concert tickets aren't free. My harshness may be due to the length of time she has been behaving in this manner. Decades!
These two are the exact opposite
2022: High energy but bad vocal condition
2023: Low energy but good vocal condition
maybe she channels all her energy into her vocals. Even on BBMA performance, she seems like she's focusing on her voice and barely move, which is fine.
THIS! I was trying to figure out how to properly word it and this is it.
@@GreybellI think its bc there’s too manu pre-recorded vocals and she’s trying to stay focused to remember the part when she’s on singing, compared to in 2022 they weren’t that many prerecorded vocals
she has always been like this. haha. when she knows she struggles she compensates with body movement as large as possible
As the tours gone on she’s gotten more active!
Unfortunately 2022 has probably been her worst vocal state. But she definitely bounced back a bit in 2023 with her new pretty and healthy tone. Hope she drops songs soon to get herself back in the game
you know what I just noticed that Mariah literally repeated her 90s eras from 2017 to 2023. Music Box (mid belt major) went to Daydream (upper belt major) in 2 years, then to Rainbow (new low) in 4 years, then to Glitter (better tone & prelude to second prime) in a year. And now 2017 (very nice mid belts) went to 2019 (more ease in 5th octave I guess) in two years, then to 2022 (worst state yet) in 4 years, then to 2023 in 1 year, which I'm guessing is Glitter 2.0 because Glitter is also known for its healthier tone & excessive lipping. And tbh it really wasn't until late 2003 that Mariah's upper belts actually got better. Like almost everything above C5 from 2001 to 2002 was a struggle💀
@@butterdreamI think she had more ease in 2017 than she did in 2018. Her tone was just darker in 2017… but her voice was kinda just a heavier ssft
@@kingjuicy3023 actually that sounds about right. I just get the sense that 2018-2019 is a little more fluid throughout the fourth octave than 2016-2017. For Vision of Love for example 2019 definitely feels like it's easier on her than 2017 was, which is kind of the vibe I get for Daydream too
@@kingjuicy3023I just hated her 2016-2017 tone it was so freaking metallic and nasal sounding at times.
@@andrewgarfield9898same! The metallic sound started in around 2016ish, and still somewhat persists till today.
0:27 omg slay daydream vocals 😍
2022 was so weird; it was like her voice lost the ability to carry a tune at all, and nothing sounded melodic. normally, her "bad vocals" always just sounded like she was tired or overworked, but 2022 straight up sounded like she lost the ability to sing. that melodic quality is SOO back, though, and i'm so excited to see her in a few weeks!
the improvement from literally just the previous tour dates is HUGE
Exactly!
definitely, i'm really happy with her transitions and fluidity right now. also her sustained notes in 4th octave are a lot better too & her breath control has improved.
yes, her A4-Bb4s are so pleasant now, and her C5-D5 ease also seems to be returning a bit
@@StanEdits. when was the last time she belted a studio G5💀
@@butterdream i think her last G5s were on me i am mariah LOLL
@@butterdreamshe don’t know G5 anymore
@@dayzour123Not true.
Last night was def her best night and the crowd was omg
that's because lxd was in attendance dahhling
@@butterdreamshe also said "we see u up there" at the beginning of Make it Happen, and the "see" was C#5
@@tonybs03 yesss it sounded so Daydream!
Definitely her voice sounds much healthier than it has in awhile. I was so worried for her in 2022, but this is good. I just hope she sings live more again and gets back to her pre-pandemic days
Im actually glad that she returned to her 2017 tone to some extent which means there will be less choppy vocals
Mariah’s voice is really interesting and instable. I watch her singing live for 20 years and everytime we think It’s gone it just come back. I really think Mariah’s voice could be aways great with better care.
Stress and energy has a lot to do with it. its a challenge!
I think Mariah drinks sometimes heavily
Those nodules are still alive guys
She overuses her instrument. That has always been her problem
@@JamesCM86i agree, she seems to be having “a splash” too often 😂
im so glad you picked genuine live vocals
She is slimmer and her breathing is so much better make all the notes came out smoother than last year.
0:26 😭😭
I hate when you can tell she’s not satisfied with her voice it makes me so sad
I think she just thought, might as well rest for the bridge😭
LOOK there’s a few singers who, I give grace to because of their range, age and years of performing LIVE…And that’s Aretha, Chaka , Patti and Mariah. They’ve proven their greatness! PERIODT
you just put her in category she does not belo0ng. She does perform live and people like Aretha and patti were already performing when Mariah was a toddler. Infcat Aretha was older than Mariah's current age in Divas 98 and we all know how she handled all the girls in that concert....
She was 57! and she had g5s.
@odumosuolusegun2781 ALL of them were touring, performing and making hits when she was a toddler ( especially Chaka). My point is your voice changes after a while and the range gets narrow. For the singers who have given their all for decade and who were ACTUALLY singing night after night on tour- I give them grace.. I do, don't mean others have to or will! I just understand it and them!
ikr she's so much better now😭 it makes me so glad
just a little sad she's lipping double but oh well
I mean if she’s in Glitter now maybe that means next year will be Charmbracelet👀
@@butterdream too optimistic but I hope she goes back to her typical lip sync formula, something like Banyan tree I don't mind or even like Christmas 2022
@@westanmariah ngl Banyan tree is still the post-quarantine concert that I would have wanted to attend the most
i was worried about this tour because of last year but her condition is improving 🥳 i was at the show in denver last night and she was unbelievably fantastic (and even prettier up close!)
Were the playback vocals obvious when watching live? Us lambs could tell in the videos since we've known her forever but I'm just wondering if the lipped parts sound believable when you're in the venue.
@@markfrancisph no they were not! that’s something i didn’t even realize until after the concert. yes, playback is obvious in videos, but it’s not at all obvious in person - it’s almost impossible to tell. the only time i remembered she was lipping was when she fumbled a brief part of joy to the world 😭
@@betterhavemymoney Oh wow. That's great to hear. I think it won't really be obvious for the majority of people. We lambs only know so much because we watch a lot of videos here on UA-cam like the vocal showcase and such. Haha.
That "Look inside" C5! in hero 2023 might be the best she ever attempt this 2020s Decade
Some C5 are for April 2023 soundboard ( playback - lipped ), some are flat singed, some are amazing attepmt ❤❤❤ Mariah gets his voice back, I think next year will be 2016 level , 2025 Mariah vocals will be 2015 level, 2026 will be 2014 - 2013! I predict some things, I feeling it! Wait two year and Mariah will get a new 4 prime!❤ Ameriacan idol prime🙏🏻
@@KrisSongwriter23i don't know what you're trying to get but i was referring to the performance of hero in denver 2023 and were blessed that mariah's voice is decent again but i hope that she will even get better next year
Mariah seems so happy. i think she’s finally realized that we all genuinely love her and it isn’t like a little side joke or something
but one thing i like about her is that even when she's sick/tired THE SHOW MUST GO ON.
definitely sounds much better than last year!! but i do miss the 90’s sounding whistles and she was sick last year too. she could barley speak in some tiktok videos she made last year during this time.
Glad someone made this. Her voice tone and look sounds very 2017 christmas tour
I agree
What I can see is that she put a lot more effort into singing in 2022 but her voice wasn’t having it.
And she’s taking it easy in 2023 while having much more potential. You can see it in her face. So let’s hope she uses her voice to its full potential in the later dates. Hopefully some more D5s and Eb5s.
Yeah I remembered her being so excited and festive but her voice just couldn't keep up with her energy
yess, we can hope for sure especially on the final dates lol
Yes! Like that show at Banyan Tree, she was giving full vocal acrobatics, energy and EVERYTHING but her voice was just so so tired that could not keep it up. Rn she just needs to feel that comfortable again and she will be slaying them vocals
@@amilcarmartinez2725 yess! imagine what she could do now if she had banyan tree energy
I've noticed her speaking 🗣️ voice is smoother and it translates to her singing which is better, yes.
Hopefully her voice will keep getting better that she decides to get rid of all the prerecorded tracks 🙏
2023 has been good to her. It's that Christmas magic in her!!
0:23 is so cute
COME ON YOUTHRIAH 🤍
Omg that Fly Like A Bird clip 😍😍😍❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
I know she can make a full recovery. We believe in you Mimi.
Yes she's definitely sounding better. How many dates does she have left? Her peak should be coming soon
She still has 12 out of 16 dates to go! Aside for the next two shows which are three days apart, the remaining 10 will be held every other day, which will help exercise her voice consistently for about 20 days. I think her peak for this tour will start right after the three day break.
@@butterdreamso at the Chicago show?
@@andrewgarfield9898 yeah probably by the Chicago show
I love her voice😍👏🫶
I think the problem was more so not her vocal state, but the fact she was very noticeably sick last yr. Nonetheless am so happy
She’s amazing as always, just let her be. Let her have fun! No one needs it be perfect all the time ❤
I wonder - is she having any fun anymore? Does she even like recording new music and performing anymore?
I honestly don’t think she is having fun this year. She seemed happier last even though her voice gave out.
If that is the case, I wonder how she'll be when I see her at her final concert in New York next month
@@Solo-vh9fm
She’s finally coming back to her old self instead of sounding raw and horrible 💯
Damnnnn 😭
@brandonthomas633 oh they split up? Maad
ngl i don’t remember her voice being that gone last year 😭
I think they chose clips of the worst moments from the worst show tbh… I saw her in NY and her voice wasn’t that bad
@@devinjm007 NYC night 2 (I'm assuming that's the one you saw) is definitely better, but she always prepares extra well & goes all out for important shows, so I didn't think it would be fair to compare the absolute peak of 2022 with plain old Denver💀
The power! Reigning Supreme Queen
Hopefully her voice will start getting stronger as she continues her tour
she puts more effort last year when her voice struggled now that her tone and voice is improved it is the opposite 😂
See the best thing for Mariah’s voice is practice. Every tour if we notice her voice generally gets stronger and stronger with each date. Because, it’s being used again. She seems more confident and she’s sounding better with every date. I just wish we didn’t have to go through this every time. I think she should really work with a vocal coach and a doctor that’s not her friends. Start making real decisions about getting it to a consistently healthy place. If we need to get the nodules removed let’s do it! I don’t care if she loses her whistle register we’ve heard a million of those live from our diva. She doesn’t need it anymore. I would much rather a healthier full belt and overall voice than whistle tones anyway. I don’t need to hear songs in the original key anymore. Retool them to lower keys and give it to us. A great example is Beyoncé. Her voice has darkened and mature with age. She changed all of her keys to fit that, we can do the same. Just my opinion I’m sure I will be attacked which is fine lol.
i agree
i agree!!!! her whistle notes are ICONIC but i rather her being able to belt with more ease and fluidity
She can still lip them and I wouldn't care a bit if she actually BELTS (majority of her songs are belted anyway), also it'll help her to gain consistency in head voice as well which isn't present now
I agree wholeheartedly. She needs tough love regarding her vocals, not just people on her team who will "yes" her.
@@misterbee66 exactly like we can only cover so much for our Queen. You have to want it more than we do. Like I’m sick of wondering if the climax is live or not. She should be sick of it. Like we are willing to work with you but you have to give us something. We shouldn’t have over an hour concert but only able to compile 2-5 mins of good parts smh.
That is what rest does to her voice, it improves it.
I went to her concert on Sunday 11/19th @ the Hollywood bowl. It was freaken cold outside. Her concert was awesome & magical. I sat in the garden area, the 16th row w a perfect seat & view .
All voices are temperamental! Give the woman the same grace you give others when they fall short of your expectations.
I think it’s very possible that she had Covid during 2022. I had it and couldn’t sing for atleast 3 months
Very likely. She had bronchitis right before her 2014 tour, that’s why she sounded horrible in Tokyo. But her vocals gradually improved after her Japan dates.
She's obviously protecting her voice and probably realized that things weren't going well for her when she had lipped VOL. She is also lip-syncing more now but with new pre-recorded tracks and im here for it!!! Nothing wrong with that and I think she is taking singing lessons as well. I just wish she would put more effort into the performances. Of course she is already 50 seconds old now but still, making it obvious to lip and standing on the same place for half an hour isnt really that kind of thing which you expect for an expensive concert. Much love from germany darlingssss!!!🎅
yesss I think she said something about a musical doctor (which I'm assuming is the same thing as a vocal coach) on her first night of tour. Also I'm dying to hear her sing VOL in her current voice, hope she does it soon
@@butterdream darling do you remember which video contains her speaking about the musical doctor?
@@tonybs03 I honestly can't find it sorry😭 I just remember it was on the first night in Highland, and she was saying that her "musical doctor" had suggested her to add a certain Christmas song to her setlist this year. I can't remember which one it was though😭
@@butterdream okay, thank u baby! Btw, did she mention which songs were they suggesting?
@@tonybs03 ur welcome! I think it was Sleigh ride but I'm not sure
Season’s baby… She’s blooming again... and will bear fruit!
At a relatively young age, it’s strange that her voice is like this!!
NODULES
^^
@@ClavijosofiI read this as noodles
I think why her breath control has been so bad is cause of corsets, She had gained weight before but her waist stayed small, which def sounds like a corset. Her waist is always tiny at shows but not in paparazzi shots / candid videos. I think the corsets make her breathing way too restricted, but since she slimmed down this year i don't think theres a corset, or at least not as tight.
I agree! This is definitely a factor
If she actually cared about her current vocal state I think she could improve a lot more, but she clearly doesn't care and I get her, if I was a legend I wouldn't bother as well, not like she has anything to prove anymore
omg i never realized how bad her voice got i’m so glad it’s back
I don't think she was taking care of her voice for a long time. She saw that her career depended on it. much love to her
Day 4 in christmas tour 2023 is better than she lived more and her voice is stronger, more clarity compares to 2022 and the first night in HL, CA
SHES EATINGGGG
Dubbed to perfection
*its bizarre.. how strikingly different her demeanor/energy/personality was in 2022 and now.. its like she became this manic, weird acting lady during the plandemic, and NOW shes finally settling back to the Mariah who is calm, focused and talented again*
Her tv special should have been recorded THIS year. 2022 was not great.
We all got to grow and get older she still beautiful and she don’t got to prove herself
The only thing I hate about her technique is the hand gestures.. it’s like she’s solely focusing on trying not to screw up to where she’s forgetting to breathe and just relax.
It's giving 2020 vocals, but she's so sad, but anyway, it's good to hear her healthy again
I don’t think 2023’s best days are as good as 2022’s, but her worst days aren’t as bad either. Her lipping more in 2023 is helping with that I think. Both years are pretty terrible for her if I’m being honest. I hope it’s just a rough couple of years for her and it bounces back like 2014. I don’t like the general direction her voice is going or the lip syncing and hope we can forget about these two years in the future.
I like her whistle notes and her low notes when she’s doing them. They sound the best they have since like 2014
0:26 😭😭😭😭😭
It might have improved but these clips don’t showcase that.
i’m curious to how her new album is turning out since she said she recorded some of it last year and has to do more recordings this year. Both very different vocal conditions
it will probably be very confusing with all these upcoming projects. she has 200 hours of music she has recorded since 2020. and her voice has changed a lot in 3 years.
Mariah just needs to pull another emancipation and show these new folks who she is cauzelast year so many people who saw her 2022 performances as there introduction to her live genuinely think Mariah can't sing
yeah she needs some kind of a Beacon moment (emancipation was more music-centered and not vocals I think) because 2022 was like 2014 all over again. I think she's ready but she just hasn't made it "official" yet. Like if she gives a proper televised concert sometime soon with minimal lipping and good preparation, she can definitely get her live reputation back
@@butterdream yeah heavy on the Lipping part it be hard to defend her when she lips so heavily sometimes and she's not particularly good at it.. but recently she's been giving us a good mix of live and pre recorded
YASSSSSSSSSSSVTHATS MY MAMA
The Holy Spirit in action. That's what that is.
I noticed this too
I love her but i seriously doubt it. In my opinion, vocla improvement ks her working with a coach re learning how to sing with her nodukes since she doesnt want to remove them. They might be better but not necessarily improved. I do wish her a healthy vocal recovery from the last 20+ years, though. her throat is honestly tired.
I think she is resting very well these days
I wonder if she is taking care of her voice now, like she got a vocal teacher or something. I think she also lost a bit of weight too which might help too.
I do miss 2022's tone a little though 😭
Honestly, its not coming back in 2023 and i am ok with it.
and CONFIDENCE
0:07 that always sounds so sharp is it a C#/D?
She as sick during the 2022 concerts and it shows.
Hmm you should compare with 9, 11 and 16th December 2022 not the 13th, thats her worst date.😅
She is just starting the current tour so we still didn’t got her current peak. The dates comparisons are fair enough
Even while i don’t like comparisons because there’s only One Mariah carey who did what she had to do!!
unfortunately we only have like 6 phrases to compare... :(
0:18 can u give me the link? I can't find It 🥺
ua-cam.com/video/xxw2kAKDdTQ/v-deo.html around the 1 hour and 6 minute mark!
She'd continue with lip syncing 😢
but it's literally Mariah's worst night of 2022 😢
I mean she literally had bronchitis during the Christmas tour in 2022
whats the second song in 2023
when christmas comes!
Videos like this is so backhanded. I know Mariah gets sad when her own fans make videos like this
Why? It's showing she is improving :/
@@urblack7954 But imagine how that makes her feel. The first thing her fans are focused on when steps out is if shes gonna belt a C5 w resonance. It puts her under constant pressure tbh
@@ronny9833 she's a seasoned singer, she can handle this, she's a strong woman, not a baby, being a celebrity means u will be judged.
Was 0:08 the clip live?
Yea it is. She sang it differently each night.
Once Mariah and I do some drugs together everything will be fine, the world
Will be better .😂
💀😭😭
@@butterdream it’s a dream of mine lol
It sounds like she’s not pushing as hard but also all it takes is a “nodule” flare up and she will be worse than 2022.
This just sounds like a mess. You can’t really hear the vocals.
Her weight change she coming back
Child 2022 was so bad tbh
She not young anymore..the voice change
It changes but it doesn’t always have to get worse
The fact people have to make zillions of videos and spend hours talking about it clearly shows her voice is not improving. Every year is the same, everything fades away - pun intended 😅. It's like Whitney Houston, I hoped every year that her voice would improve. Well it didn't
Well depends on how you define improvement. If you expected Whitney to suddenly sing like it was 1992, then yeah she didn’t improve. But for what it’s worth she actually did get a lot better from her state in 2005-2006 by the time she passed.
Girl she's lipsyncing
not in these clips
There really isnt any improvement. I know yall looking for positives and i get it. The only difference between the 2 are she was definetly sick in the 2022 shows, along side her vocal damage. In 2023, we have no sickness, but her vocal damage remains.
Her range and quality hasnt changed much since 2022. And shes lipping even more of the 2023 shows.
This tour was not a good idea for her whatsoever
And where do you get from the source of her being sick in the 2022 shows?
@@ismaelm.mbaangue9147 my eyes and ears ma'am. She was clearly sick and in terrible voice last year
I can see your point tbh. but her approach to belting and just phrasing/legato in general is noticeably better than even early 2023. Even the non-belting parts in the Hark the Herald intro have some of the best tone and fluidity she's displayed since quarantine. It's just that her voice is still pretty stiff past B4, but I hope that will improve as she gets more practice
@@butterdream I dunno about that. She struggles with every single phrase with every single song 😭 she just cannot transition her registers at all. Every one of her registers are choppy besides her lower register. Everything just seems so difficult and painful 😭
This tour is just so unnecessary for her it just boggles the mind that she's doing this to herself
@@ryanallen8455 She was in a real bad shape vocally but nothing have been said of Mariah being sick and your eyes aren’t a factual argument to prove that she was sick So your opinion is not a fact!
The point of the video is her voice sounding healthier than last year’s chistmass shows which clearly does and it’s not even debatable.
Y'all too disrespectful of a legend
Let's accept the fact Mariah simply doesn't care about her voice anymore. When she is asked by someone about her vocal status, she has the propensity to sound the most generic possible. What is recquired to sound better is discipline. She has to regularly a week exercise her vocals under the supervision of a professional, reduce alcohol, tabagism, to do a follow up with a specialized doctor and by her age and time of career she probably isn't interested. She can rely now on the fact she is older, but this is partially wrong: she has a pathology. She knows what.
Eh.
Get the mind right and layoff the booze; then and only then will the voice improve. MARIAH needs to decide if she wants to sing or be a statue/mannequin?
a little harsh but I see your point
What is her voice improving from? Mariah to my knowledge hasn't given any explanation to her vocal decline. I would be more empathetic, sympathetic and supportive if she did. However, it comes across as narcissistic arrogance and entitlement; seeing her stand in one spot, more worried and focused on her hair, makeup and "ensemble than her vocal performance. Her concert tickets aren't free. My harshness may be due to the length of time she has been behaving in this manner. Decades!
@@user-ow1pf9jp6hdecades? Lmao chile.
those clips from 2023 not all are LIVE VOCALS it's just a pre recorded....
Where….
While most of the 2023 shows are lipped, I think the clips showed here are actually live.
Every clip in this video is 100% live.
it’s literally
live she sang
it dif each time. R u her sound engineer or what
Still, sounds a hot damn mess
Sounds the same lol
Please, Mariah voice needed no improving.