11 minutes of silence for those who said Czerny was boring. This is beautiful. The last one is my all time favorite, although I prefer Francesco Libetta's performance :)
I don’t really understand how can you find this beautiful. There is almost no melody or if it’s there, it’s boring and rather repetitive. A little bit of harmonic modulations and some not so uninteresting ideas and figures but this is in my honest opinion not even close to the level of teenage Chopin, Liszt or Skrjabin.
@@classicalmusiclover4029 , to each their own. Again, speaking of the last G minor etude from here: to me, personally, it is more interesting than the famous C Major Waterfall etude by Chopin. I'm making the comparison because of similar techniques used.
Comparing Czerny to Liszt, Chopin or Scriabin makes absolutely no sense. Different periods, styles and purposes. And let's be frank, even in Chopin etude there is one or two which are repetitive and dull-ish.
@@classicalmusiclover4029 you shouldn’t compare a composer who focuses on developing technique and from a different time period to composers who compose musically developed pieces like chopin and Liszt.
Czerny's and Hanon's exercises are essential, but only when played with the utmost relaxation and use of the entire body, not just the fingers, and not played with tension! For exercises, these are especially beautiful. 💯❤️
@@subplantant Sure, but don't use only the fingers and neglect arm weight, otherwise you'll destroy your hands and produce a very shallow sounds lacking in dynamic contrast. I remember when I first started playing in my youth as I had so much tension and was taught nothing about using the entire body. I remember it was physically painful to play the piano and I couldn't play for very long nor play anything challenging nor at a quick speed. After my education improved and my knowledge of technique increased, I can now play circles around my former self, play at very quick speeds, have far less tension, and be far more expressive. Piano teachers, especially Americans (for some reason), seems to neglect arm weight, and push very harmful technique that is both unnatural and will cause physical harm and pain. I've lost count of all of the students I've had to re-teach when it comes to improper technique and reducing tension. The same is true for vocal technique. It's the improved technique and increased quality of education that makes me thankful of getting my BA in Music, and for saving my hands and throat! ❤️💯✌️🎶
Czerny's exercise are the best with using fingers, full wrist and not lots of tension on the fingers but allow body movement also cause hands hurt after I've experienced it hehe
@@evifnoskcajin Russia there is same situation: playing with "active fingers" is the most popular technic that learning in music school and even in university.
Czerny was extremely knowledgeable as to pianistics. His compositions are the best way to drill mechanical difficulties in a highly musical way. If compared to the majority of music that was being composed at his time, they shine out as true gems. Only both teachers and students have become too lazy and hurried to dive deeper into these beautiful works. Thank you for this opportunity!
That is because we judge it according to our knowledge of music. But exceptions remain exceptions. After Haydn and Beethoven, the music of the first quarter of the XIX century was rather poor. In the field of piano studies, "highly musical" is a very relative expression. It is far more rewarding to play Czerny than Clementi or any of the popular "methods".
Ah I now see where Liszt got it all. The will to stretch technique to the farthest, yet retaining musicality as much as possible - unlike all that @#*ing Hanon stuff.
There is little music in Liszt All he cared about was showing off and being a rock star, being the greatest virtuoso of piano. According to many he succeeded, but imo his music interrupts itself, is unpolished, and exists for the sake of allowing him to preen before fainting, disrobing women. I realize my opinion is highly unpopular but compare Liszt to the sublime musicality of Chopin, the tremendous textures of Scriabin, the progressivity of Prokofiev, the lyricism of Ravel, the compositional perfection of Rachmaninov.... I realize some were after Liszt but we have that benefit now
Any beginner who can play this after just six months of study is truly gifted. These are comparable to the studies written by Sauret for the violin - those I can play (andante con moto)
I can really hear strong similarities to that of Beethoven's Piano Sonata's Nos. 5 and 8 at 4:18. Not too surprising as Beethoven was his teacher. Fantastic works!
I agree. I think that Beethoven was very much a strong individual composer both emotionally and stylistically. It's quite clear to see that Beethoven influenced and taught more so rather than incorporating others' "flavours" into his works (apart from Beethoven's main teacher, Joseph Haydn, who did actually help in that sense.)
My favorites of the Op. 740 set are Nos. 4, 23, 32 - one of them was missed very slightly hear. But despite their primary purpose, I might note that one can achieve a beautifully expressive effect with a somewhat slower tempo. There is real music in these pieces.
@@nurrasyid14_ not really if you played larger and more technically demanding pieces. But czerny etudes is insanely repetitive, just too much similar exercises which cause you go insane😂 if you just work on few good ones you need, it's ok, But if you are asked to study the whole collection all the wau through. Everyone will hate it. Just like the famous comment on Czerny "you have enough studies, just stop writing more studies"😂
Thanks for posting. This shows Czerny to be a much more interesting composer than I had suspected. The pianist does quite a good job, though in the last one what melody there is in the right hand is not always brought out clearly.
best czerny performance ive ever heard. beside the fact that its technically remarkable its also played with refreshing musicality! a rare combination when people play czerny. and some of these are really taken at breathtaking speeds all without losing clarity and exactness in articulation
Make sure you get back into it cousin Taylor. regardless of our level or ability is such a precious gift to have and to play even the simplest of music, had to do it to the best of our ability.
@@michaeltaylor4752 I started at 65 yoa and had always joked that I had been born with two left ears. Bought the piano 4 months ago...and a brand new world opened up. I'm making up for lost time.
I wish I still had my old Czeny book of exercises along with lot of my music. With all the moves, some of most treasured things just disappeared, hopefully into the hands of someone else who would appreciate them.
Some of these seem to be working on the right hand while others focus on the left, which is good, since many etudes focus only on the right. They are not intended to be listened to but to be used for teaching and strengthening the hands and wrists.
The first exercise is a good example that Czerny could compose musically when he wanted to. We musn't forget that while a superb technician, he was also one of Beethoven's students, he knew what good music sounds like, and it's impossible to believe that a man of his obvious intelligence learned nothing about composition from his teacher. And then there's this one here 3:43
Could anyone knowledgeable in composition tell me what the chord progression starting at 10:04 and repeated twice could be described as? Would it have a name? I remember hearing this before, not sure where... Maybe Swan Lake... I absolutely love it. So exquisitely dramatic, like an inexorable fall. Thanks!
Je n'ai jamais joué de Czerny parce que je n'ai jamais eu la curiosité de dépasser les apriori négatifs de mes professeurs. Quel erreur... Il n'est jamais trop tard fort heureusement.
Rejetez les a priori négatifs de vos profs de piano et plongez dans le monde de Czerny. Vous n'allez pas regretter. Ses études sont vraiment prometteuses. ❤❤❤
@@musiqal333 en réalité il y a du vrai dans les deux parties. Czerny composait avant tout pour se nourrir comme bon nombres d'écrivains et compositeurs de son époque. La quantité importait donc plus que la qualité et quoi de mieux que des exercices pour alimenter sans fin ses revenus. Fort heureusement il y a dans toute son œuvres des pépites comme celles que vous nous partagez.
Why like a machine instead of feeling the music … After that every soul is dead, the players and the listeners. Terrible pain for every living on earth.
Seriously? Do pianists still waste time w Czerny sugar coated " etudes" instead of playing the vast piano repertoire which is riddled w ALL the technical devices specifically applicable to REAL music? I prefer my current regime( infinitely superior!) Gaspard de la nuit/ Petroushka/ Islamey daily w rotations of Brahms Paganini & Handel Variations/ Liszt b Sonata Busoni's Chachonne, Schuberts Wanderer Fantasy,Schumanns Toccata op.7 & all the 545 Scarlatti Sonatas/ 27 Chopin & 23 Liszt Etudes.Everything Czerny ever wrote ( & a zillion more) are represented in the above repertoire I itinerized w a major distinction: My listed repertoire can be played on the highest level concert stages of the world & furthermore they exist in a musical environment worth striving to attain. Whereas, Czerny? Good luck finding a worthy audience!! Why on earth would you waste time of this non-music??????????????
While I respect your opinion and your practice with very masterful pieces, I still disagree that Czerny is considered nothing more than "sugar coated" pieces. If I was a beginner to low intermediate levels of playing, they'd be an amazing show pieces for small concerts. I may vary my opinion of Czerny's pieces, Atleast they're all interesting in their own way.
@@marcpopick6684 czerny isn't bad but hanon is just mindless finger exercises and really is good for nothing. and clementi is actual performance repetoire
Any concert pianist will tell you, you must learn technique before you can achieve. Dont think for one moment, that just because YOU find it non musical, means that everyone else does, too. While I completely understand where you're coming from (I have a masters in music performance on the piano and violin as well as a bachelor's in music education), I think you're being somewhat short sighted, because this, along with Bach, are go-to's for any good music teacher. They teach dexterity in fingers, as well as the fast tempo prepares them for other pieces where this level of expertise is required. For me, when learning and studying, I disliked Shostakovich and Scriabin. Scriabin never made much sense, musically to me, and Shostakovich was just a madman! My point is, each student or player has their own preferences and yours is clearly not Czerny lol.
In fact, Czerny was Liszt’s teacher, so Liszt’s technique was based on Czerny’s etude and continuously training. I think Czerny’s pieces have disclosed the intense emotion of romanticism. He indeed initiated the romantic connotation in his piece and laid the groundwork for composers following 18c. We shouldn't deny his achievements
complete (50) etudes played by different pianists:
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computationally play?
11 minutes of silence for those who said Czerny was boring. This is beautiful. The last one is my all time favorite, although I prefer Francesco Libetta's performance :)
I don’t really understand how can you find this beautiful. There is almost no melody or if it’s there, it’s boring and rather repetitive. A little bit of harmonic modulations and some not so uninteresting ideas and figures but this is in my honest opinion not even close to the level of teenage Chopin, Liszt or Skrjabin.
@@classicalmusiclover4029 , to each their own. Again, speaking of the last G minor etude from here: to me, personally, it is more interesting than the famous C Major Waterfall etude by Chopin. I'm making the comparison because of similar techniques used.
Comparing Czerny to Liszt, Chopin or Scriabin makes absolutely no sense. Different periods, styles and purposes.
And let's be frank, even in Chopin etude there is one or two which are repetitive and dull-ish.
@@classicalmusiclover4029 you shouldn’t compare a composer who focuses on developing technique and from a different time period to composers who compose musically developed pieces like chopin and Liszt.
@@classicalmusiclover4029 You have impaired cognitive abilities. It's that simple. Keep working on them..there is always hope.
My hands are exhausted just by reading this sheet.
Czerny etudes are technically challenging, but not very musically innovative or inspiring
Virtuosos can make even the plainest of exercises sound practically heavenly, and this pianist is quite good, especially with no 40 from Book V.
Musicality above all.
Same about the 4 and 37 which I have mastered.
@@g.kech.10 Μάλλον εννοείς πως μπορείς να παίξεις αυτες τις σπουδές χωρίς λάθη. Το να ισχυρίζεσαι πως τις έχεις τελειοποιήσει είναι ανόητο.
@@eternalslumber2k6 Το να ολοκληρώσεις ένα κομμάτι δεν σημαίνει μόνο να το τελειοποιήσεια τεχνικά "βιρτουόζικα".
@@g.kech.10 Οκ, δεν αμφιβάλλω. Εσύ ισχυρίστηκες πως αυτές τις σπουδές τις έχεις τελειοποιήσει.
Czerny's and Hanon's exercises are essential, but only when played with the utmost relaxation and use of the entire body, not just the fingers, and not played with tension!
For exercises, these are especially beautiful. 💯❤️
Don't neglect the fingers - the body is slow and dumb, the wrists are blunt instruments, the fingers are fast and expressive!
@@subplantant Sure, but don't use only the fingers and neglect arm weight, otherwise you'll destroy your hands and produce a very shallow sounds lacking in dynamic contrast.
I remember when I first started playing in my youth as I had so much tension and was taught nothing about using the entire body. I remember it was physically painful to play the piano and I couldn't play for very long nor play anything challenging nor at a quick speed. After my education improved and my knowledge of technique increased, I can now play circles around my former self, play at very quick speeds, have far less tension, and be far more expressive.
Piano teachers, especially Americans (for some reason), seems to neglect arm weight, and push very harmful technique that is both unnatural and will cause physical harm and pain.
I've lost count of all of the students I've had to re-teach when it comes to improper technique and reducing tension. The same is true for vocal technique.
It's the improved technique and increased quality of education that makes me thankful of getting my BA in Music, and for saving my hands and throat! ❤️💯✌️🎶
Czerny's exercise are the best with using fingers, full wrist and not lots of tension on the fingers but allow body movement also cause hands hurt after I've experienced it hehe
They are not just exercises, they are actual pieces and some of them have interesting harmony too!
@@evifnoskcajin Russia there is same situation: playing with "active fingers" is the most popular technic that learning in music school and even in university.
Czerny was extremely knowledgeable as to pianistics. His compositions are the best way to drill mechanical difficulties in a highly musical way. If compared to the majority of music that was being composed at his time, they shine out as true gems. Only both teachers and students have become too lazy and hurried to dive deeper into these beautiful works. Thank you for this opportunity!
highly doubt that it is highly musical
That is because we judge it according to our knowledge of music. But exceptions remain exceptions. After Haydn and Beethoven, the music of the first quarter of the XIX century was rather poor. In the field of piano studies, "highly musical" is a very relative expression. It is far more rewarding to play Czerny than Clementi or any of the popular "methods".
@@brooksiefan just play Chopin
They always prescribe Hanon instead
I agree, despite many teachers in Barcelona demonize and ban Czerny. Such a ridiculous forever statement.
Czerny is NOT boring!
N.32 is. Good recipe for tendinitis…and RIP those who have small hands. Other than that I love Czerny.
Esecuzione eccezionale! E Czerny dimostra di avere una fantasia inesauribile
i had no interest in Czernys music prior
this made me a little more interested in looking through his etudes to find something to play
Relatable
The whole body must be used to play musically these hard piano studies. Amazing compositions!
real
Кто же этот гений,который исполнил эти шедевральные композиции без ошибок?!!! Я завидую такой технике исполнения🎉
This totally changed my mind about Czerny. I heard his other works and wondered how lame! I am very happy I discovered these gems composed by Czerny!
Czerny underestimated composer
Clean pfp
ツェルニー最高！練習曲を飛び超えて、聴いていて高級な建物の中いる気分になります。24番、50番は結構弾いている方がいますが、4番も聴いていて好きになりました。
I never knew that Czerny was such a great composer.
These are beautiful. I like no 24 the most., so playful.
Bons tempos de estudo de Czerny. Base para a técnica. Lindos.
Ah I now see where Liszt got it all. The will to stretch technique to the farthest, yet retaining musicality as much as possible - unlike all that @#*ing Hanon stuff.
There is little music in Liszt
All he cared about was showing off and being a rock star, being the greatest virtuoso of piano. According to many he succeeded, but imo his music interrupts itself, is unpolished, and exists for the sake of allowing him to preen before fainting, disrobing women.
I realize my opinion is highly unpopular
but compare Liszt to the sublime musicality of Chopin, the tremendous textures of Scriabin, the progressivity of Prokofiev, the lyricism of Ravel, the compositional perfection of Rachmaninov....
I realize some were after Liszt but we have that benefit now
@@Itemtotem u joking right
@@GUILLOM he must be, or he is delusional.
@@GUILLOM he'e right tho
👹
@@scriabinismydog2439 🏴
Hanon is like stretching and dribbling and passing, Czerny is like putting plays together
学生時代ツェルニー練習曲が初めて好きになったのは50番練習曲を始めたあたりです。
40番練習曲までは曲想よりも技術のためと割り切っていましたが、50番練習曲を初めてからは「これが指定の速さで弾けたらかっこいいだろうな」とひたすら曲想を大切にしていると突然弾けるようになったりして次の曲が楽しみになったものです。
その後にクラマービューローは割と簡単に思えたのが懐かしい。
Any beginner who can play this after just six months of study is truly gifted. These are comparable to the studies written by Sauret for the violin - those I can play (andante con moto)
I seriously doubt any true beginner can play this with such tempo and accuracy after just six months...
If you practice three hours a day, it will take at least 10 years
"This boy has talent" -- L van Beethoven.
Beethoven is the MAN who knows. These are gorgeous. I never heard them before! Thanks 👍
Was Beethoven his Master or just said that?
I wouldn’t say this bc you’re just letting them know they’re making fun of you
@@forkypianistYes, master.
To play these kinds of Czerny Etudes (school of velocity, finger dexterity, etc) one has to be an accomplished pianist already.
Czerny sempre melhorou muito minha técnica.Gosto muito.
Eu gosto do seu comente. Obrigado.
I can really hear strong similarities to that of Beethoven's Piano Sonata's Nos. 5 and 8 at 4:18. Not too surprising as Beethoven was his teacher. Fantastic works!
The thing is, while you can hear vague reminiscences of Beethoven in Czerny's works, you will not hear any Czerny reminiscences in Beethoven's.
I agree. I think that Beethoven was very much a strong individual composer both emotionally and stylistically. It's quite clear to see that Beethoven influenced and taught more so rather than incorporating others' "flavours" into his works (apart from Beethoven's main teacher, Joseph Haydn, who did actually help in that sense.)
My favorites of the Op. 740 set are Nos. 4, 23, 32 - one of them was missed very slightly hear.
But despite their primary purpose, I might note that one can achieve a beautifully expressive effect with a somewhat slower tempo. There is real music in these pieces.
meraviglioso
BRAVISSIMO
GRAZIE
Czerny 令我喜出望外：富技巧練習兼動聽耐聽。若也能看到手形對自學者更功德圓滿了。無論如何，非常感謝上傳者。
740这本书里面还有更好听的 上传者没有选
My piano students don't like Czerny's works, but I really love it!
They hated it cuz it's insane 😂
Then you’re not a good piano teacher (joking)
@@nurrasyid14_ not really if you played larger and more technically demanding pieces. But czerny etudes is insanely repetitive, just too much similar exercises which cause you go insane😂 if you just work on few good ones you need, it's ok, But if you are asked to study the whole collection all the wau through. Everyone will hate it. Just like the famous comment on Czerny "you have enough studies, just stop writing more studies"😂
Thanks for posting. This shows Czerny to be a much more interesting composer than I had suspected. The pianist does quite a good job, though in the last one what melody there is in the right hand is not always brought out clearly.
An unknown masterpiece that needs to be heard more often.
Wow - Scarlatti on speed - come to think of it I’d like to hear it all
on harpsichord…
Agreed, but it would probably turn most h'chords into a smoking heap.
best czerny performance ive ever heard. beside the fact that its technically remarkable its also played with refreshing musicality! a rare combination when people play czerny. and some of these are really taken at breathtaking speeds all without losing clarity and exactness in articulation
Merci for this. Waaayyy out of my pay grade. But I'll find some beginner pieces and get back to this in a couple years.
Make sure you get back into it cousin Taylor. regardless of our level or ability is such a precious gift to have and to play even the simplest of music, had to do it to the best of our ability.
@@michaeltaylor4752 I started at 65 yoa and had always joked that I had been born with two left ears. Bought the piano 4 months ago...and a brand new world opened up. I'm making up for lost time.
2:06 bro… 🔥
My arms ache after watching this...
No. 37 is like a variation of "Tempest" in 3/8.
ツェルニー嫌がる人もいるけど、普通に弾いてて楽しかった。30番の練習曲が特に好き
Meraviglioso! Che pianista splendido musicale
Awesome! No3 & nO 37 is Amazing!
absolutely lovely! :D
2:31 Vibes of winter wind etude
Carl Czerny Titan!
Bravo!
No. 24 is one of my favorite Czerny etudes now.
I wish I still had my old Czeny book of exercises along with lot of my music. With all the moves, some of most treasured things just disappeared, hopefully into the hands of someone else who would appreciate them.
(In case you didn't know) you can find all the exercises online for free
Same here. seems like every time I move a box of music is gone.
Bravo
Estudos incriveis fantasticos!
Some of these seem to be working on the right hand while others focus on the left, which is good, since many etudes focus only on the right. They are not intended to be listened to but to be used for teaching and strengthening the hands and wrists.
The first exercise is a good example that Czerny could compose musically when he wanted to. We musn't forget that while a superb technician, he was also one of Beethoven's students, he knew what good music sounds like, and it's impossible to believe that a man of his obvious intelligence learned nothing about composition from his teacher.
And then there's this one here 3:43
Wonderful
The third one sounds like a piano transcription of some previously undiscovered early Beethoven overture
This is cool by I prefer Czerny's more mature work starting with his set of 64 piano concertos op. 2755 no.158
This is very interesting!
Не со всем согласен,но спасибо за науку!
bro went full feux follets mode 💀
They are very interesting, and because this I,m studying them again.
However, it’s a machine (computer) playing.
No
37番は秀逸
Indescribable feeling
Something indescribable
no. 37 is amazing
My childhood memory
Nice.
Adorei.
The best! 💕
Bro que salvajismo 😳
Super difficult
5:11 wow
good👏👏
I really like 32.
Could anyone knowledgeable in composition tell me what the chord progression starting at 10:04 and repeated twice could be described as? Would it have a name? I remember hearing this before, not sure where... Maybe Swan Lake... I absolutely love it. So exquisitely dramatic, like an inexorable fall. Thanks!
Je n'ai jamais joué de Czerny parce que je n'ai jamais eu la curiosité de dépasser les apriori négatifs de mes professeurs. Quel erreur... Il n'est jamais trop tard fort heureusement.
Moi aussi ecoute beaucoup apriori negatifs de plusiers professeurs. Les idées fixes consolidées ne deviennen pas des vérités.
Rejetez les a priori négatifs de vos profs de piano et plongez dans le monde de Czerny. Vous n'allez pas regretter. Ses études sont vraiment prometteuses. ❤❤❤
@@musiqal333 en réalité il y a du vrai dans les deux parties. Czerny composait avant tout pour se nourrir comme bon nombres d'écrivains et compositeurs de son époque. La quantité importait donc plus que la qualité et quoi de mieux que des exercices pour alimenter sans fin ses revenus.
Fort heureusement il y a dans toute son œuvres des pépites comme celles que vous nous partagez.
No. 37 has a bit of the spirit of mazeppa
Firsto one sounds almost like something Dvorak could have written if he were born a few decades earlier
What an amazing performance! ❤
These really don’t sound like exercises!
It is on slow motion or 60 bpm
C'est pas pour les manchots...
No. 32 can’t be good for you
Why like a machine instead of feeling the music … After that every soul is dead, the players and the listeners. Terrible pain for every living on earth.
Theyre etudes for fucks sake
🙄🙄
The music has no depth. It's just boring.
Then fly away.
@@musical_lolu4811 I think you're the lightweight!
Do you know of a better recording? Would love to listen to it.
@@FocusMrbjarke Of this type of thing, no. It's crap, no serious musician would touch it.
@@scotchester2983 How come? What would you prefer to listen to instead?
Seriously?
Do pianists still waste time w Czerny sugar coated " etudes" instead of playing the vast piano repertoire which is riddled w ALL the technical devices specifically applicable to REAL music?
I prefer my current regime( infinitely superior!) Gaspard de la nuit/ Petroushka/ Islamey daily w rotations of Brahms Paganini & Handel Variations/ Liszt b Sonata Busoni's Chachonne, Schuberts Wanderer Fantasy,Schumanns Toccata op.7 & all the 545 Scarlatti Sonatas/ 27 Chopin & 23 Liszt Etudes.Everything Czerny ever wrote ( & a zillion more) are represented in the above repertoire I itinerized w a major distinction:
My listed repertoire can be played on the highest level concert stages of the world & furthermore they exist in a musical environment worth striving to attain.
Whereas,
Czerny? Good luck finding a worthy audience!!
Why on earth would you waste time of this non-music??????????????
In order to play Liszt or Schubert then you need strong fundamentals. And Czerny is perfect to develop this. Hanon and Clementi to.
While I respect your opinion and your practice with very masterful pieces, I still disagree that Czerny is considered nothing more than "sugar coated" pieces. If I was a beginner to low intermediate levels of playing, they'd be an amazing show pieces for small concerts. I may vary my opinion of Czerny's pieces, Atleast they're all interesting in their own way.
@@marcpopick6684 czerny isn't bad but hanon is just mindless finger exercises and really is good for nothing. and clementi is actual performance repetoire
Any concert pianist will tell you, you must learn technique before you can achieve. Dont think for one moment, that just because YOU find it non musical, means that everyone else does, too. While I completely understand where you're coming from (I have a masters in music performance on the piano and violin as well as a bachelor's in music education), I think you're being somewhat short sighted, because this, along with Bach, are go-to's for any good music teacher. They teach dexterity in fingers, as well as the fast tempo prepares them for other pieces where this level of expertise is required. For me, when learning and studying, I disliked Shostakovich and Scriabin. Scriabin never made much sense, musically to me, and Shostakovich was just a madman! My point is, each student or player has their own preferences and yours is clearly not Czerny lol.
In fact, Czerny was Liszt’s teacher, so Liszt’s technique was based on Czerny’s etude and continuously training. I think Czerny’s pieces have disclosed the intense emotion of romanticism.
He indeed initiated the romantic connotation in his piece and laid the groundwork for composers following 18c. We shouldn't deny his achievements