Mega Paint Marker Test - Who Has The Best Marker For Model Building
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- In this mega marker shoot out I wanted to see who has the best paint marker for model building besides the standard Gundam Marker. I was surprised as to how good many of these were and I think you will be too.
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Video timestamp
Posca 12:49
Zeyair 17:50
Voiskie 21:30
Metallic color pen 23:15
Hobby lobby acrylic gold 26:58
Enamel acrylic gold 28:27
Testers 30:04
Master's touch 33:41
Chrome Amazon 38:11
Molotov 40:51
Deco color 45:00
Sharpie oil based painter 48:15
Sharpie 50:42
Elmer's painters 51:52
Gundam 54:40
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Damn Barbatos you are the hardest working man in the plastic model community!
I m gonna cry its so beautiful finally after a decade the most proper marker review
I did my best. Many of these were way better than I'd thought they'd be
@@barbatosrex9473 ty now i can make a decision on individual pens as not many are available in india actually most of them are not available but i can atleast try to find the one in the video
@@barbatosrex9473 ty now i can make a decision on individual pens as not many are available in india actually most of them are not available but i can atleast try to find the one in the video
note on posca: they are poster color markers made to go on paper. they don't like being on glossy surfaces. they will work ok on matte but the big drawback is you will need some kind of water based topcoat bc they can scratch off very easily. if you use lacquer topcoat the paint will crack.
Great info, thanks
So its acrylic? Which cant be cover with enamel or lacquer?
@@noblord8643 Nope. It's poster color/paint. That's a vague group of different paints that as a group only shares the being water based part and not watercolor/gouache/acrylic/fewotherwaterbasedpaintsandinks.
Posca behaves most like acrylics and they play nice with most acrylics. It's not necessarily even the base or the binder that causes problems, but one of many additives/solvents/fillers that're often not disclosed.
Water based topcoats (and primers/undercoats) are your safest choices, but you should still test all paint combinations first on a random piece of plastic.
Not really an issue with models, but there are some protective coatings that can be removed with acetone, if you want to use Poscas. It's something that comes up with customizing sneakers for instance.
As a full time professional artist and Bookbinder... I own the entire Molotow paint marker line. In all the nib sizes, in the complete sets... even the double ended nib set. I have all their refills as well... they are hands down the absolute BEST for use in any finished art to be sold. They are actually artist grade paint in the markers, they are lighfast, have refills, they fill the entire marker barrel to the brim with paint ( every other paint marker are only filled half way, even posca ) and the Krunk markers are great too, limited colors tho. The newest ones that just recently came out are the Karen DecoBrush paint brush markers. I just bought their entire large box set, they have a brush nib like my copics... but its acrylic paint. I have only played around with them alittle bit, but they are definitely great for art... not sure about anything else. I also have all of the Golden high flow line, I use them to paint with, and hand marble paper, airbrush work..... BUT, IMO they aren't great in markers tho. You definitely went all out man, I haven't seen anyone go all out like this on paint markers before lmfao! Great job
I found that clearing over molotow chrome even with a gloss clear really dulls it down. Just throwing this out there if it helps anybody.
Next, how about a 100% just and only 'chrome' review.. Show the best markers and the best air-brushable liquid paints. this was VERY helpful!!
I am pretty sure he might have done that before.
Man, thank you so much. All your videos are exactly what I needed. This one was super valuable for me. I bought the Posca pens to help do cel shading and I love them. I'll have to pick up some oil sharpies and the Walmart brand next.
You're a legend, man. Thanks for all your hard work
You're welcome buddy, it's much appreciated
Before you start the pen always pull the nib all the way out and put it back in to "burp" it (you can actually hear it press the air out when you put it back in)...doing this will stop it from blobing out the paint on you when your doing a long line
I know its a tougher test, but the durability and functionality after extended use would be really interesting. I get a marker, and the first couple times it works just like in your test, then suddenly, its dry, clogged, empty, etc., and I have to throw it out. Others markers, last forever.
I'll have to put up a long term results at some point 👍
For that, I buy those air tight sealed containers from Walmart in their kitchen section, or from Amazon... put all my paint markers in them and lock the handle down to seal air tight.... paint markers remain just as good as day 1.
@@barbatosrex9473 sooooo?
@@danieljamesbinderystu2968brilliant idea
From water based markers Posca and Molotow are really good. As long as you put the cap on they shouldn't dry out and in general they rarely get clogged (with few exceptions). Neither requires constant shaking, pumping or cleaning the nib.
Both can become unresponsive when mixed with other paints that're not completely dry or for unknown reasons reactivate from water.
The clogging thing can happen with the very smallest nib sizes. For Posca their 1mm fineliner type nibs do that. Molotow 1mm fineliners and 0.7mm plastic nibs clog quite easily. Posca paint is slightly thinner. Both can be "fixed" with random scrap paper, acetone/alcohol or replacing the nib.
Molotow is likely more generous with how full of paint their markers are. Both are excellent though. Posca often has pigments and other non solvent ingredients stuck on the inside walls of the markers paint container body. So if you really want to you can always get an extra 10-20% out of your marker by just adding a small amount of water after the marker is "empty". It's almost worth the effort since Posca doesn't sell refills.
From refills the MTN brand is closest to Posca regarding flow and opacity. It really only matters with nibs below the 2mm region. With 3-4mm nibs you can use fairly cheap acrylic inks. With 1.5-2mm nibs most higher quality acrylic inks work fine. Acrylic ink is just another word for thin acrylic paint.
TLDR: There's a reason why Posca and Molotow cost more than 4x of cheaper water based paint pens. Quality control, better valves, higher quality pigments and better paint formulas in general. Nibs are fairly similar to cheaper alternatives. All that causes less time shaking the pen, unclogging the nibs and few other things that become apparent with cheaper alternatives. Oh and usually Poscas are cheaper in NA, while Molotow is cheaper in EU by comparison. In Asia it's just always Posca, but they have few other comparable brands/products (Pilot Pintor for example).
Great job been looking for great markers for small detail.you readed my mind thanks buys the first 4.thanks again
Another great test! I wasn't even going to catch this one, but I'm glad I did. Lots of great information and I can see picking up a few markers for the projects I do.
Some of these are must haves to keep on your bench 👍
I haven't even started the video, but i will tell you already... posca all day for colors, molotw for Chrome. They make the spray paint brand called Belton(hands down the world's greatest graffiti paint). Posca markers reduce perfectly with the home brew airbrush reducer. I literally open the marker, pour it into a salsa cup, reduce it to add about 30% total and put it back in. The small amount of waste paint in the cup is always enough to do any small detail layers at the end of the day. (Lightning, transparent black/purple shadows, vent holes, etc...) if you can find it.. the old ZIG POSTERMAN has the same paint inside. One marker of black POSTERMAN acrylic ink mixed with a tiny bit of black createx will make a year's supply of black for airbrushing once it's reduced. Rex, if you see em' grab em!!! Peace mon!
Also a tip, if you travel to a higher elevation...when you first crack a new paint pen, do it facing up to release the pressure without exploding the pooled paint in the front. You don't need to pump and pump away either. Hold it open for gravity to get involved. Let's build a Machinder mash up Rex!
You've got to keep the colors and the silvers and gold metallic separate in tests I've noticed the metallics always cover easier than the color ones when doing a review you should always do more of the colored pens they're harder to find out what is better in each brand of marker also it would be great to see what the white in each brand great review thanks 👍
Thanks for uploading been waiting for this one since Saturday.
Nice video! Though note that the Master's Touch alcohol markers are best used on paper media for illustrative purposes hence the high transparency.
Thanks Rex I've enjoyed all of your videos. I have learned a lot to help me in my model car building as I paint the bodies and details, thanks again
You're welcome buddy
Molotaw chrome pin is awesome, and they last a LONG time!!
Wow. Great test. Will be picking up some of those Walmart markers. I’m going to get one of those empty paint markers and fill it with green world stuff chrome and see if works as good as brushing. I use it mostly for chrome trim on car models.
good work man. Always a pleasure to see paint reviews
Very in depth, nicely done!
I can't tell you how much I appreciate this video! Just got into gunpla about 3 months ago. I've built 4 gunpla so far, and actually finished my first RG today(strike freedom). I've gotten into panel lining and panel line scribing, now I want to paint so bad. But these markers are more my budget lol. I've just purchased they zeyar markers but with the Japanese tip($16.88US)! seen many of your videos back to back too see what paints I think I might like for when I do start airbrusing. Much love brother ✌
Thanks buddy and good luck in your painting. 👍
Yet another great info video, Thanks! Your videos have been immensely helpful to me. I have been a follower since I started in January 22. Before that I didn't own a air brush and didn't know my a## from a hole in the ground. I would have probably given up by now, Like this video, I had no idea that these paint pens existed...wonderful! I build HO building kits for my model railroad these pens will be prefect for putting on accents. Always look forward to your new videos, keep them coming...
I got a set of the Dspiae markers from Newtype a while back. The marker tip is really nice and most of them get great coverage, but I did notice that the yellow and gold needed a couple coats (or a good primer underneath) to look just right.
Not sure if you have ever tried them, but Montana paint markers are pretty solid. They have some great vibrant colors too. And you can buy the refills and empty’s as well. I usually do that with their shock pink and shock blue light.
I went back and started watching old vids. Great stuff.
Great roundup as usual! Hopefully in the future you try the better ones for durability without clearcoat. I think many are too lazy to clearcoat but still want to handle the surface every now and then. Also, I find Vallejo doesn't like to stick to the colored plastic on Hot Wheels. I'm sure tons of people would like to know what sticks to that stuff. Just some suggestions, but I know you're busy.
Still a great resource though now Sharpie has a Creative marker brand that does pretty good on plastic. It's reactivated with isopropyl alcohol so you can get some neat weathering and blending effects and clean up missed lines. I'm using the fine point for panel lining.
Very good. Paint markers seem to have improved a LOT since I first bought them. I use wethering colors for my railroad and military models and have been let down, but it looks like these might be worth a try. I would have been interested in seeing how some of the matte finish wethering colors would perform. I tried traditional Sharpie markers but bought that their ink ran very badly after an application of Testors' Dullcote.
I’ve had great luck with the Floquil/Testors/CreateFX brand paint markers for weathering, the Roof Brown pen is how I weather almost all my wheels , it’s just so damn easy and makes such a huge difference in 60 seconds.
In each of these sub-brands I have bought the weathering sets with Rail Brown, Roof Brown, Railroad Tie Brown, and then another set has Aged Concrete, Mud, and Grime I think
You’re the best Rex!
Every time I watch one of your videos it cost me money!!
I do apologize for that 😉
As per usual another great vid from you. Very informative. 1 hr 7 min for you a longer longer for yu to do this thanks
you done a great job thank you
I have a few of those Posca ones. Shame they don't go onto paint too well but they seem to be good otherwise. Those UK made Zeyar ones are a nice surprise, finally something I can get cheap in the UK! And they deliver the goods, too!
Another great video !!!When are you going to make a video with your completed models??
The painter markers from Walmart I believe are made by Elmer's
Speaking of markers have you ever thought about trying the Gundum marker airbrush?
A test worth beading off for
I wish these videos were under 5 minutes instead of over an hour!
Me too 😉
@@barbatosrex9473 Meow that’s funny, Sir! A+++++ 😹👍
This is great, thank you! Have you done a video covering masking fluid like latex, etc?
Not yet, I've been purchasing different brands for a test video. So one is coming
@@barbatosrex9473 I'm glad it's on your radar, thanks!
The regular blue sharpie is nice we use it at work.
Great info - thanks!
Best ones I would say are the yellow ones just due to how yellow they look. It can be hard to get a yellow paint to look good.
For sure, to get any form of yellow to go on good is a challenge but these markers performed great
What pad do you use on your workbench? Great videos! TY
Maybe the glossy black is causing the issues.......or are the other items glossy as well .......I would think priming it in white , black or gray (flat) would help alot and make the markers work awesome.......what do you think
Great vid, thanks for sharing!!!
Hey man been watching since 2k subs, and I know you mainly do air brush stuff, but could you possibly please do a head to head test for best chrome brushed on?
any brand which make good yellow on dark surface is good brand
Thanks for showing this
The markers don’t not like tamiya paint. In gloss paint they don’t like. Put it on a flat or a sanded tamiya and they go on great. It doesn’t matter what brand. It’s the gloss they don’t go over.
Hey Barbatos have you tried the Revell email primer? I cant find a video anywhere about it so I dont think it has been tested on youtube by anyone else. Revell claims it gives a perfect smooth finish and I think it is quite durable since its enamel based.
I will look for it now. I'll buy it if I can find it 👍
@@barbatosrex9473 Thanks!
So which was best overall for Gundam? I use markers for filling in small bits of stress marks I cant get sanded off. I have sharpies currently and they cover and adhere very well for my needs but I cant get a good color match so thought id try another brand.
Is there any marker that offer a brushed nickel, brushed aluminum, or a darker gray gloss metallic like Molotow's Chrome?
Any tips on clear coating after using the Molotow Liquid Chrome marker? Also the Sakura Caligrapher Gold marker?
It's hard to see, but are the posca and Gundam markers the same size? It would be great if they fit in the gundam marker airbrush system
which is the best marker? pros and cons.
ranking/conclusion/summary at the end would be nice/helpful
im looking at dspiae (soft tip vs hard tip) vs molotow vs gundam & gundam ex markers
Dspiae needs a top coat
Also to cut down the video maybe you could pre open everything off camera.
In my humble option. I don't think you have to "RUSH" that comes through on the video. So the video ends up not being as relaxing to watch but only a tad rushed feel. Maybe cut down some of your "rambling" your words not mine when going over a new product. Especially when we have see countless videos on Airbrushes. I never thought they were "too long" long yes but most of the video it did not make me want to fast forward over sections. I bought a lot of paint/Airbrush supplies base on your videos. And for some videos maybe not cover every color. If that satisfies others. I take screen shots of the colors and make a Apple Nots app note out of it.
Hi can you do a big review on all colours of the molatow markers
I just got some to test for myself but I will do a video on them
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Thanks buddy 👌
im sorry i asked the question before i watched the hole video thanks for helping
Thank you so much for this video! Judy in Nova Scotia, Canada
Thank you Judy from Nova Scotia. My wife's name is Judy 👍
This is off topic for this video but I has question: I got a bottle of Mr. Color leveling thinner but I mainly have Tamiya and Vallejo paints. Do you know if its compatible with any of these? I just started learning to airbrush, I'm not really sure if I should even have it, and I'm afraid to mix the wrong things.
Thanks for any help.
Mr leveling thinner works good with tamiya acrylics and lacquers, but for Vallejo I would thin with water, or their specialized airbrush thinner.
Maybe you could mention manufacturer's NAMES?
And in my experience silvers and grays go on the easiest, no matter the brand.
my issue is that the marker paint is not so strong in time
Which is the painters marker they look amazing.
Do you mean the Dspiae markers?
@@barbatosrex9473 the ones you got from Walmart
The Tester pens suck, it works a little better if you work straight up and down but that's definitely not optimal. Every pen I've purchased from Testers has had this problem.
Oh yeah, those went right out the door after this test.
Whoa - I'm early with this one. Nice video.
Thank you my friend
seems like it likes dual colors
OMG...who on earth needs all those markers😂😂
Have you ever tried Tamiya paint markers not that I think they are any better then Mr hobby or Dspiae.
Yes, the original paint marker. I miss them them. I believe they discontinued them around 10 years ago here in the US. Not sure if they still sell them in other countries still. They were cutting edge when they came out, no one in the hobby made a paint maker. They were ahead of their time
@@barbatosrex9473 Ok becase apperently they sell it here in Norway.
@@barbatosrex9473 Briefly looking into this it seems they discontinued the white and silver, but the other colors in the PM line should be still available at some market regions. Old silver/white formulas were usable on polycarbonate, but not so much with other plastics.
do these have a strong oder ????
Not really. The Sharpies probably had the strongest odor followed by any enamel marker but no where near like an actual paint
Wheres hooby mio n dispiae?
This video was filmed before I had either in my inventory. I don't think I even had Dspiae or Mio available to me at the time. That said I shot a separate video for Dspiae markers and I featured Hobby Mio in a recent video on new Tips & Tools
@@barbatosrex9473 i think i only can get my hands on posca or sharpie, which one better? Straight to gunpla piece..
@@noblord8643 sharpies are good. I use them. They have a metallic line too
@@barbatosrex9473 oke ill use it, pumping marker not really my type..😂
I use snowman marker
Have anyone tried the posca markers on gundam?
They work great but you have to seal them using a clear coat
@@barbatosrex9473 so I have primer the kit before using them? I come from the sentai minipla area and just need pianting on details where stickers are applied.
@@WGPhil-uw5cs primer helps but not needed
So who won, they can't all be perfect
Well many of these were very good. I was shocked as to how well they all worked. But it might come down to price for some, if thats the case then the Painters brand by Elmer's I got from Walmart take the crown. For Chrome it's Molotow followed by Gundam Marker
are these from automotive store??
Many of these came from Amazon. A bunch came from Hobby Lobby. I didn't buy any at auto parts store. See links in description
I want to see all the colors. I don’t care if they go on good. So then don’t paint anymore. Paint them all. If it takes two or three videos oh well that’s two or three videos. I don’t just want to see what they look like at the end of the videos.
im sorry reading the wrong thing