Hi all, just wanted to explain that you may have seen this documentary pop up a couple of weeks ago. It was flagged for inappropriate verbal content - but we thought this doc was just too good to go, so we have removed the offending scene. Hope you enjoy!
The graves of the 47 ronin at Sengakuji are near my house, so every now and then we walk over and pay them a visit. The most surprising aspect is the wide range of ages of the men (which are written on their tombs). They are as young as 16 but also there are ones in their 70s.
it is a true story of courage to do such a thing. To know they defied the shogun all for honour and to avenge their former master. That was true loyalty.
I’m kind of dissapointed with the way the samurai are described in this. They weren’t all obsessed with death, nor was killing their only skill. They were just as focused on life as they were anything else. The way of the warrior wasn’t created to end life, it was created to foster it. Peace through military rigidity. They spent just as much time on the esoteric and philosophical arts as they did combat. They weren’t just mere warriors created to kill. Other than that this is a really great vid. You definitely need to do a bit more research on who the samurai were, and look at someone like Tomoé Gozen for example. As accomplished as she was martially, she was just as focused on the spiritual side of things as well. Bushido should be shown more and credited more.
Yes, because Japan was influenced by China in ancient times, many samurai and aristocrats understood literature and art. Samurai are not killing machines. They usually fight for their territory and family. When not at war, they will discuss and create like writers.
@@georgemargaritis2392 you need to study more than just basic literature that’s presented here in the west. Actually take a look at their history, their past, they were just as devoted to the arts even more so than war. Christ it’s like talking to a six year old. There are so many texts from the Sengoku Jirai period (Japans warring states era similar to Chinas) that show even in the midst of war they put a high value on the spiritual and the arts. Even Miyamoto Musashi dedicated as much of his time learning about life and art as he did about the sword. If all you’re going to do is base level research and look at one particular aspect of their history, you’re not going to get the full picture. Some of the best poets and painters have come from Japan and from the various periods where Samurai were well established and known as the military caste.
The 7 Virtues 1) Justice 2) Honor 3) Veracity 4) Politeness 5) Benevolence 6) Courage 7) Loyalty When written out vertically and from right to left, the first three are in a column.. Politeness is by itself in the center and written slightly higher... The last three are in the third column.... Even with the first column... Politeness was considered to be the greatest & most important which is why it was written more prominently in the center and higher than the rest...
@@markrossow6303ok??? What's your point? Should we listen to your dad on how to pronounce Japanese? Like I agree this documentary is absurd, but I don't think the expert we need is your American dad, lmao
@@tobytakahashi392- As for the few words the actors spoke - was that even Japanese? I don't speak the language but it sounded so odd to me. Also, yes, the "semm-you-ray" was so bad, over and over again... 😂
Their so called expert had idea about how an ancient katana. The steel is called Tamahagane which is quite homogeneous do the folding and welding. The technique of building the blade out of different grades of steel to have high carbon on the edge, soft core and medium spine didn't come along until the 1900s when modern mono steels became available. I know better then to look at Timeline productions.
@@yuccaman3545there’s nothing wrong with history channels having historians from every background. Also there’s plenty of Chinese educators teaching English history to their students & vice Versa in universities, documentaries, podcasts ect. Even ticktok there’s history lovers from every race sharing world history stories they’ve learned with people globally. Being of a different culture don’t mean their uneducated on another.
Awesome film ppl. Fully enthralled the entire time. Shared it with friends. Great work. Also, what a story. Respect to all men of honour. Past and present.
@@cos4779 Where do you want him to start ?? Good "story" but an obvious misinterpretation to say the least. This is a very biased opinion piece. Come out of your video world and do some research for yourself if you are truly interested in reality.
@cos4779 People are so ready to argue and be aggressive online. It's sad. They only do it because there is no face. They're removed. Kind of like you're quicker to get angry in traffic because it's a car instead of a discussion with a person. I'm guilty of it too sometimes so I try to read my comment and ask myself if I would talk this way to someone in person before submitting.
@@yzwme586 This would be better explained with some research of your own. You're talking about centuries of history that this guy got wrong immediately and then doubled down.
I am so glad they mentioned samurais used spears, blows and arrows, clubs, axes and other types of weapons after overpraising the katana. The primary weapons of the samurais in combat was not the katana but most often the bow and arrow and the spear, and later on, primitives black powder rifles. In fact, during combat if a samurai has to resort to using the katana, it is usually because he/she (and yes there were female samurais) screwed up badly somewhere during the fight.
This is one of the worst documentaries I've ever seen in regard to medieval Japan. It's full of errors and misunderstandings. Seppuku wasn't about dying in three days, an assistant cut your head after a few seconds. There are a lot of shortcuts on the story itself too.
@@curtblackwaterbassvick8112they said deadliest blade not weapon. Anyway, the Katana is known for being the sharpest sword ever made and I can guaranteed you it is, not on no “bias” video.
The samurai were like the Spartans that valued art poems and war . 2 truly remarkable ways of life. There is a Japanese saying that you can spend a whole lifetime looking at a tree change through the seasons and if you only did that it wouldn’t be a wasted life Truly amazing
Weeb stuff, giving undue respect to barbaric and frankly stupid ideas, long discarded by the Japanese themselves But still held in high regard by anime dorks
Yes there were honourable Shogun but most of them were in a clan whilst many of those not in one often became thugs and thieves causing havoc with the poor and annoyance to the rich
They valued science as well but did not refer to many things as inventions or those who made them, investors because time and battle had not tested what they invented to compare it with what they know that it works!
Yeah. they made the mistake of claiming Japanese steel was the best in the world. Japanese iron deposits were low grade. What made the katana so good wasn't the steel. What made it good was the technique of folding the steel to produce tensile strength to counter how shit the steel was. Japanese steel was notorious for being brittle and has always largely been considered shit by anyone who has any experience in metallurgy...
British historians do seem to mangle Japanese, Chinese, and Korean names and words quite badly, compared to other English speakers. This is especially true of British professors, who rarely-if ever-seem to have bothered learning the languages of the lands in which they specialize.
It's a good documentary but there are two points of criticism: 1) I'm quite sure that Japanese people won't agree to bushi being all about death. It's a gross oversimplification 2) The already long refuted myth that the Katana is the best sword and had the best steel there ever was. A european medieval longsword can perform the same as a Katana. And on directly trying to cut each other the Katana will be distorted to almost unrecognizable shape. But I do agree that the Katana is an ingenious piece of art and design with elegance and beauty, that is also up to its task as a deadly efficient weapon.
Yout last para tells exactly why its get so many weebs around the world...whem u create something which is both elegant and deadly in the most refined way its bound to be famous
The notion that the samurai have no other skills other than to deliver death is utterly false. They're required to take on live skills and art as well. As an Asian who have studied a lot about histories of multiple Asian cultures, I find this to be very insulting.
Oh yes, I don't know if it will be mentioned later in the video --- 'Ronin' means 'masterless samurai'. I'm 10 mins into the video & they've used the term umpteen times, without defining it. Well, at least they're pronouncing it properly -- row-neen and not row-nin (short i).
Samurai weren't obsessed with death. They merely made peace with the fact they could die in any battle. Musashi felt there was no real honor in wanting to die. He said if a warrior looks for death then he's already ended his life. He felt surviving and teaching his style was more honorable.
Its true once you pick up a katana it lights your soul up. I have been learning how to use one and every time I draw it my confidence jumps several levels.
I love histories, from the pharaos, persian empire, roman empire, the mongols empire, the nordic runes and norrøn history, chinese ancient history, sun tzu, etc. Japanese history is extraordinary
この時代、将軍支配下の大名が1年ごとに江戸の屋敷と各地元に交代で住む制度があり、目的は大名を統制して幕府に反抗できないようにすること。ですから、この時の吉良邸は江戸の屋敷であり、ご覧の動画のように要塞化された城では決してない。During this period, there was a system in which feudal lords under the Shogun's control alternated between living in Edo and their local homes every year, with the purpose of controlling the feudal lords and preventing them from rebelling against the Shogunate. Therefore, Kira's residence at this time was a mansion in Edo, and was by no means a fortified castle like the video you see here.
Katanas are made for slashing. Cruciforms are made for piercing metal armor. The Katana is the better blade, but not as good against metal armor as a Cruciform.
@@stevenhoskins7850 You dont know what you are talking about. Samurai Katana were low in quality due to lack of resources and some lack of innovation e.g. using a clay Katara that does not remove a high level of impurities and Iron ore sand that yes, could be mined and sifted from rivers but most came from beaches and lack of dealing with the sulphur and phosphorous within the iron ore..
People here complaining about the depiction of the Samurai culture. Yes, they were highly educated members of society. Who wrote poetry, studied all forms of mathematics, and horticulture when not involved in war. But when it boils down to it, they are loyal to a fault. Their religion was that of dealing death. Most were not nice people to the lower class. Just like in Europe, they retained their power through brutally oppressive laws and horrific penalties for breaking them. While calling Japan a police state isn't really fair since it was more of a cult where everyone worshipped the Shogun as a god. Europe was more of a police state, in my opinion being ruled by tyrannical kings and lords who were probably far worse than the Japanese were to the lower classes. Japan is a beautiful culture and really enjoyed this video.
It's surprising to hear that revenge is still heralded as a virtue in Japan, or at least that is the impression given by the end of this short documentary. In Edo Japan, the 47's actions are a consequence of desperation, and it seems like given the facts as recorded by historians, they took liberty with how they interpreted their master's death. If vengeance in and of itself is a virtue, regardless of context or circumstance in Edo Japan, that's an interesting insight.
Having lived in Japan for decades, I can’t really say revenge (fukushu in Japanese) is integral in the society at all. I do notice it’s strong in Chinese society right up to the present.
@@KennethWedin Thanks for the clarification. This documentary to me encapsulates, if anything, how inflexible behavioral traditions of Edo Japan often clashed with one another to the point of death. What started with critiques of social etiquette led to bloodshed, then death, just as another critique of etiquette - only this time, from the perspective of the 47 ronin - did the same. The narration romanticizes the efforts of the ronin, but it is still unclear whether that romanticism is representative of the cultural milieu then - or even the historical literature - or whether it is just the editorializing of the writers. It should be a little more clear on that front, especially when presenting history of a culture one is not native to.
This was a well kept secret up until recent times but It was really supposed to be 48 Ronin but one of them died from debilitating foot fungus, (also known as athletes foot) while traveling to the targeted emperor’s palace. It was said that the 48th Ronin wore a pair of Air Jordan 1’s and he came down off his horse with itchy foot syndrome and inevitably lost his life. Having Itchy feet might have altered history in unforeseen ways.
There was a chinese sword that was found from ancient times that is still sharp as ever to this day. Don't know if it was better than the Japs, but might be.
My Boerboel is named "Ronin Shenji". Weighs 58kg and does his work well...protecting us. After reading some of the comments and having some background I exited at 11 min.
Why? Because they don't have night vision goggles and M4s? They were special soldiers conducting clandestine military operations under the cover of night. Of course the term "black ops" didn't exist in feudal japan. They used that term in this piece to give viewers a way to understand in more modern terms.
How much is inaccurate in this quote documentary. It would take too long to point out all the flaws. I do appreciate the cost and effort put into the realism.
"deadliest blade ever made" ... "the samurai black-ops in ancient Japan ... 1703" honestly, not even 3 minutes and nothing but bs. ancient japan? that would be before 1000 CE (give or take a couple hundred years), but 1703 is nowhere near ancient. deadliest blade ever made? no. a kitchen knife soaked in feces is way more deadly than a katana. what you tried to say: "most beautiful" or "most refined". the "deadliness" of melee weapons lies primarily in the hands of the user and to a lesser degree in the weapon itself. it really saddens me that you just fumble words and myths together in order to make your content sound "more cool" or "more epic". dude, the truth is epic enough and your fumbling made me stop watching at 2:41. utterly disgusting.
They accepted death, not obsessed, they were a cultured, and stouic peoples, with honour, and loyalty,they studied arts, calligraphy, a society very ritualistic, not obsessed with deat, theyvwere NOT AFRAID OF IT, it was alife of duty, not something most people are familiar with today.
Eichiro Oda in wano arc just shows us how the japanese is shown in this episode...he's shown us everything..About Shougun..About this suicide..and everything..you guys should watch ONE PIECE..Oda have shown us the real world in anime not about just ancient japan..but About the ancient world and the future..
I visited their burial site in the early 2000s. I also took a tour based off the Ako Vendetta. After Miyamoto Mushashi it's my favorite historical type thing based in that amazing country. I'd love to go back but the traveling from the far NE of the US to Japan is pretty rough for someone who isn't great on flights. Which is a bummer because the countryside there is prob one of my favorite places I've visited outside the US. Tied with Guam and the Caribbean. If I do decide I can put up with traveling such a long distance with the idiots(travelers and TSA clowns) and mega jet lag(and fear of those Boeing jets might fall apart like they have been so much lately)I'll be going to Norway/Scandinavia where my family is from. I've always wanted to ride on a Viking longship in a fjord...
This is a very good cultural , historical documentary on a specific Japanese group. The 47 Ronin. I needed to do a little research on the 3 warrior groups: Samurai, Ronin and Ninja, bc I did not know what the important differences are. Connected, but completely different functional needs bc of the class structure of those times in Japan. Ultimately, I was interested in this particular historical event, bc when this happened,; 1701/1703; it was half a century later than I thought these famous 47 Ronin outlaw warriors were active. I thought this a very well done, presentation, with beautiful scenery, informative notes on the warrior type of equipment, materials, structure and high, unique quality of specific Japanese original creative knowledge and workmanship with steel and other unusual materials. Of that, the warrior equipment, behavior and training, I was glad to see highlighted in this historical story. Whatever was censored and caused a negative backlash, I don’t know about, so this viewing has some valid, interesting, sensitive and useful comments and perceptions in its’ form today. Thank you for reposting!!! 👍🥰
It's funny all the Japanese historians I've heard explain the rituals like sepukku differently. Like bleeding out over 3 days. Everything I've every seen they let a swordsman decapitate after the cutting to end them quicker so i assume rarely did they have someone bleed out for 3 days.
この時代の武士は、江戸の火災の際、火消しを要請されていた。浅野家は火消しで有名で、火消しの際使用する家の解体道具の使い方が上手く、吉良邸に突撃の際それを活用しました。またその際火消しの衣装でした。 In this era, samurai were requested to be firefighters in the event of a fire in Edo. The Asano family was famous for being firefighters, and they were good at using the tools used for demolition of houses, and they used them when they attacked the Kira residence. They also wore firefighter uniforms when they attacked the Kira residence.
So many errors in this documentary. But, they emphasize what the public has been groomed to believe. Myth sells. That is not to take ANYTHING from the 47. Loyalty like that is very rare.
I was wondering why are these old white men telling me about this an not Japanese pple tell their history smh how can white men tell someone else’s history better than they own pple this is bs
Killing me with sooo many ads! Trying to get some work done and the skip distraction is not helping. One more AI narrated ad for a widget that is “taking the world by storm” and I’m going to lose bowel control.
Hi all, just wanted to explain that you may have seen this documentary pop up a couple of weeks ago. It was flagged for inappropriate verbal content - but we thought this doc was just too good to go, so we have removed the offending scene. Hope you enjoy!
The offending scene is the best bit
What offending scene? 🤔
Surely removing the scene is for want of a better explanation censoring history?
A history channel approves of censoring the past.
Yt is so goofy
The graves of the 47 ronin at Sengakuji are near my house, so every now and then we walk over and pay them a visit. The most surprising aspect is the wide range of ages of the men (which are written on their tombs). They are as young as 16 but also there are ones in their 70s.
it is a true story of courage to do such a thing. To know they defied the shogun all for honour and to avenge their former master. That was true loyalty.
Tht awesome 😮😮
You mean there’s people… that are actually different ages? Wooooooaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh! That’s the craziest thing I’ve ever heard!
@@FearTheIndoorHorseRancher haha good one. You really got him. 🤦
Fear people like you mess the internet up for everyone
I’m kind of dissapointed with the way the samurai are described in this. They weren’t all obsessed with death, nor was killing their only skill. They were just as focused on life as they were anything else. The way of the warrior wasn’t created to end life, it was created to foster it. Peace through military rigidity. They spent just as much time on the esoteric and philosophical arts as they did combat. They weren’t just mere warriors created to kill. Other than that this is a really great vid. You definitely need to do a bit more research on who the samurai were, and look at someone like Tomoé Gozen for example. As accomplished as she was martially, she was just as focused on the spiritual side of things as well.
Bushido should be shown more and credited more.
They were all about war,
Tearing apart Japan in their thirst for power until they were finally defeated.
What are your sources, or where does your expertise come from? Playing Sega doesn't qualify.
They harrass peasants before breakfast everyday. Create to foster life lol they are not doctors.
Yes, because Japan was influenced by China in ancient times, many samurai and aristocrats understood literature and art. Samurai are not killing machines. They usually fight for their territory and family. When not at war, they will discuss and create like writers.
@@georgemargaritis2392 you need to study more than just basic literature that’s presented here in the west. Actually take a look at their history, their past, they were just as devoted to the arts even more so than war. Christ it’s like talking to a six year old. There are so many texts from the Sengoku Jirai period (Japans warring states era similar to Chinas) that show even in the midst of war they put a high value on the spiritual and the arts. Even Miyamoto Musashi dedicated as much of his time learning about life and art as he did about the sword. If all you’re going to do is base level research and look at one particular aspect of their history, you’re not going to get the full picture. Some of the best poets and painters have come from Japan and from the various periods where Samurai were well established and known as the military caste.
Imagine 47 super angry, 10th Dan++ Samurai coming for you one evening at home. Bad day any century.
Super angry 😂
The 7 Virtues
1) Justice
2) Honor
3) Veracity
4) Politeness
5) Benevolence
6) Courage
7) Loyalty
When written out vertically and from right to left, the first three are in a column..
Politeness is by itself in the center and written slightly higher... The last three are in the third column.... Even with the first column... Politeness was considered to be the greatest & most important which is why it was written more prominently in the center and higher than the rest...
Thanks, nerd / dork.
@@clvrswine do u watch gintama
Anybody here watching that new Shogun show? It's really really good! Highly recommend.
I did it was amazing.
I watched the first 4 episodes but then it got boring, but I watched the age of samurai on Netflix and holy lord that was great
The book Shogun by James Clavell is a great read.
Yeah it was brilliant, it's based on a true story too, the English guy was based on William Adams, and Toranaga was based on Tokugawa Ieyasu
Best show in a long time
I never want to hear "Sam-YOUR-eye" again
sahm oo rah ee
so my Dad was U.S. Army MI on Okinawa ( oh keh nah wah ) in '64 / '65
My ears are bleeding
@@markrossow6303ok??? What's your point? Should we listen to your dad on how to pronounce Japanese?
Like I agree this documentary is absurd, but I don't think the expert we need is your American dad, lmao
@@cherrylimesatan as a Japanese it truly is hurting my ears, it's like hearing someone say Marine as Marhaine over and over
@@tobytakahashi392- As for the few words the actors spoke - was that even Japanese? I don't speak the language but it sounded so odd to me.
Also, yes, the "semm-you-ray" was so bad, over and over again... 😂
Two years. Revenge is a dish best served cold.
It was a thrilled watching documentary about shogun rule and Semoray fighters clans... Thank you (Timeline) for sharing
When the bloke in the first minute said:'it almost feels it's alive...', I realized it's going to be a fanboy documentary.
I almost stopped watching when that dude said that and nobody made fun of him
Their so called expert had idea about how an ancient katana. The steel is called Tamahagane which is quite homogeneous do the folding and welding. The technique of building the blade out of different grades of steel to have high carbon on the edge, soft core and medium spine didn't come along until the 1900s when modern mono steels became available.
I know better then to look at Timeline productions.
I find it very amusing that all the "experts" are British. It would be like a Japanese TV series explaining the history of England.
@@yuccaman3545 I'm with that...😎
@@yuccaman3545there’s nothing wrong with history channels having historians from every background. Also there’s plenty of Chinese educators teaching English history to their students & vice Versa in universities, documentaries, podcasts ect. Even ticktok there’s history lovers from every race sharing world history stories they’ve learned with people globally. Being of a different culture don’t mean their uneducated on another.
Awesome film ppl. Fully enthralled the entire time. Shared it with friends. Great work. Also, what a story. Respect to all men of honour. Past and present.
The lengths they went to and the long time they left it before striking amazes me. Brilliant story of revenge for their master. 🙏
Yer but they should "Get a life". Miserable buggers.
Their
@HaroldBarrie yes thank you.
I love this story: hardened warriors exact justice against a corrupt, useless, and petty bureaucrat.
The depiction of the samurai here is insulting!
How so, and why?
@@cos4779 Where do you want him to start ?? Good "story" but an obvious misinterpretation to say the least. This is a very biased opinion piece. Come out of your video world and do some research for yourself if you are truly interested in reality.
@@78tag lmao, so aggressive. calm down bud. i was just asking for his opinion, dont have to give sass.
@cos4779 People are so ready to argue and be aggressive online. It's sad. They only do it because there is no face. They're removed. Kind of like you're quicker to get angry in traffic because it's a car instead of a discussion with a person.
I'm guilty of it too sometimes so I try to read my comment and ask myself if I would talk this way to someone in person before submitting.
This is so anachronistic it hurts the eyes. And costumes and hairdressing are just the beginning.
I like how the first 20 seconds are filled with historical inaccuracies and lies. Doesn't bode well for the rest of the show.
I got to 0:28 before the cringe overwhelmed me 😄
Yes, I immediately started to think about who backed this production.
couldn't agree more, this misrepresentation of Japanese society is an abomination
explain
@@yzwme586 This would be better explained with some research of your own. You're talking about centuries of history that this guy got wrong immediately and then doubled down.
I am so glad they mentioned samurais used spears, blows and arrows, clubs, axes and other types of weapons after overpraising the katana. The primary weapons of the samurais in combat was not the katana but most often the bow and arrow and the spear, and later on, primitives black powder rifles. In fact, during combat if a samurai has to resort to using the katana, it is usually because he/she (and yes there were female samurais) screwed up badly somewhere during the fight.
This is one of the worst documentaries I've ever seen in regard to medieval Japan. It's full of errors and misunderstandings. Seppuku wasn't about dying in three days, an assistant cut your head after a few seconds. There are a lot of shortcuts on the story itself too.
Any suggestions then ?
I agree, it starts off saying the katana is the deadliest weapon ever made. This documentary seems to be opinion based with little facts
Which would you recommend?
@@curtblackwaterbassvick8112they said deadliest blade not weapon. Anyway, the Katana is known for being the sharpest sword ever made and I can guaranteed you it is, not on no “bias” video.
And the costume, hairstyle and having the slipper in the room where he sits are wrong
The samurai were like the Spartans that valued art poems and war . 2 truly remarkable ways of life. There is a Japanese saying that you can spend a whole lifetime looking at a tree change through the seasons and if you only did that it wouldn’t be a wasted life
Truly amazing
Discipline taken to brilliant heights
The Japanese are really good at hiding their history huh?
Weeb stuff, giving undue respect to barbaric and frankly stupid ideas, long discarded by the Japanese themselves
But still held in high regard by anime dorks
Yes there were honourable Shogun but most of them were in a clan whilst many of those not in one often became thugs and thieves causing havoc with the poor and annoyance to the rich
They valued science as well but did not refer to many things as inventions or those who made them, investors because time and battle had not tested what they invented to compare it with what they know that it works!
Sucks to learn we've all been saying "Samurai" wrong.
Samurai
Kanji for Samurai - 侍
Hiragana for Samurai - さむらい
Each Hiragana character is a syllable:
さ - Sa (sah)
む - Mu (moo)
ら - Ra (rah)
い - I (ee)
Whereas the term "samurai" was only used for the warrior class exclusively in the Edo period.
Typical Europeans.they want to learn then infiltrate yet become then they become and steal your identity.as they done the the Jim
That was fun, Thanks And Respect
First few words in and already I can see doc based on more myth than fact.
I was done at the black ops comment lol
Yeah. they made the mistake of claiming Japanese steel was the best in the world. Japanese iron deposits were low grade. What made the katana so good wasn't the steel. What made it good was the technique of folding the steel to produce tensile strength to counter how shit the steel was. Japanese steel was notorious for being brittle and has always largely been considered shit by anyone who has any experience in metallurgy...
@@Broken_Broom99 That and the shameless katana jerking despite all evidence to the contrary. That was the “Yup, I'm clicking off” point.
The katana was the utmost in technology......for cutting down unarmed peasants who disrespected you@@leburger5160
Japanese culture as understood by Westerners
This is wrong at 40:09 they have shinsengumi in the video. They didnt exist in the 1700s.
They're taking creative liberties to tell the story... Any sense of historical accuracy is thrown out the window
Thx for sharing this video 🤙🏽
The British way of pronouncing samurai always catches me off guard. It’s so funny to my ear
lol SAM-your-rye
Definitely cringe.
British historians do seem to mangle Japanese, Chinese, and Korean names and words quite badly, compared to other English speakers. This is especially true of British professors, who rarely-if ever-seem to have bothered learning the languages of the lands in which they specialize.
Arimasen.
Sam E Rye
It's a good documentary but there are two points of criticism:
1) I'm quite sure that Japanese people won't agree to bushi being all about death. It's a gross oversimplification
2) The already long refuted myth that the Katana is the best sword and had the best steel there ever was. A european medieval longsword can perform the same as a Katana. And on directly trying to cut each other the Katana will be distorted to almost unrecognizable shape.
But I do agree that the Katana is an ingenious piece of art and design with elegance and beauty, that is also up to its task as a deadly efficient weapon.
Yout last para tells exactly why its get so many weebs around the world...whem u create something which is both elegant and deadly in the most refined way its bound to be famous
The notion that the samurai have no other skills other than to deliver death is utterly false. They're required to take on live skills and art as well. As an Asian who have studied a lot about histories of multiple Asian cultures, I find this to be very insulting.
They are NOT obsessed with death. They believe in reincarnation, and so they are not AFRAID of death
9:55 was a pretty interesting scene where dude gets down on one knee and chops his katana at the grass. Sent shivers down my spine.
Japan takes everything to another level. They really take "do everything to the best of your ability" seriously
🤣 Nice one
nirvana on earth
Yeah including being pedos
@@frankmanitta4870- I very much doubt that the bushi class saw their world as nirvana...
We locked in 4L on ABA🔒🔒🔒🔒
Oh yes, I don't know if it will be mentioned later in the video --- 'Ronin' means 'masterless samurai'. I'm 10 mins into the video & they've used the term umpteen times, without defining it. Well, at least they're pronouncing it properly -- row-neen and not row-nin (short i).
Samurai weren't obsessed with death. They merely made peace with the fact they could die in any battle. Musashi felt there was no real honor in wanting to die. He said if a warrior looks for death then he's already ended his life. He felt surviving and teaching his style was more honorable.
Its true once you pick up a katana it lights your soul up. I have been learning how to use one and every time I draw it my confidence jumps several levels.
Great story! Excellent stuff
I wonder which is a higher quality sword, a katana, or a sword made of Damascus steel?
They should have showed here the monument that were built for these 47 ronins. It will give you goosebumps.
"it's just a vendetta, go back to sleep"
"ok"
I love histories, from the pharaos, persian empire, roman empire, the mongols empire, the nordic runes and norrøn history, chinese ancient history, sun tzu, etc. Japanese history is extraordinary
they always say it is bad to fight against power, but those who do are in fact the real heroes
I hope the creators of Shogun tv show give us a spin off show of the 47 ronin I think it'll be cool to see more about Japanese history
この時代、将軍支配下の大名が1年ごとに江戸の屋敷と各地元に交代で住む制度があり、目的は大名を統制して幕府に反抗できないようにすること。ですから、この時の吉良邸は江戸の屋敷であり、ご覧の動画のように要塞化された城では決してない。During this period, there was a system in which feudal lords under the Shogun's control alternated between living in Edo and their local homes every year, with the purpose of controlling the feudal lords and preventing them from rebelling against the Shogunate. Therefore, Kira's residence at this time was a mansion in Edo, and was by no means a fortified castle like the video you see here.
Nothin worse than bringing a weapon to bear,that falls apart . The sword of the Samurai is tool of definite results
"the deadliest blade ever made"😂😂😂
cutting power, it the 14th century Turkish killij for durability and versability i chose 15 century longswords
It isn't the blade that becomes the deadliest it's the person.
Definitely one of
I so I've heard about how great the katana is...but japanese were impressed by European arms armor
The Japanese armies of that time period were not opposed to using better weapons and armor especially if it helps them get ahead in fighting.
Katanas are made for slashing. Cruciforms are made for piercing metal armor.
The Katana is the better blade, but not as good against metal armor as a Cruciform.
@@stevenhoskins7850 not better, different. But your info is spot on.
@@stevenhoskins7850 You dont know what you are talking about. Samurai Katana were low in quality due to lack of resources and some lack of innovation e.g. using a clay Katara that does not remove a high level of impurities and Iron ore sand that yes, could be mined and sifted from rivers but most came from beaches and lack of dealing with the sulphur and phosphorous within the iron ore..
The first gun was invented from China. And gun powder came from China. Just reminding
What a great class of warriors.. the world will never see again 🙏👹
so... this video was created by a high school kid living in the suburbs who has watched a lot of anime.
Stealth and quickness. But you go in yelling😂
People here complaining about the depiction of the Samurai culture. Yes, they were highly educated members of society. Who wrote poetry, studied all forms of mathematics, and horticulture when not involved in war. But when it boils down to it, they are loyal to a fault. Their religion was that of dealing death. Most were not nice people to the lower class. Just like in Europe, they retained their power through brutally oppressive laws and horrific penalties for breaking them. While calling Japan a police state isn't really fair since it was more of a cult where everyone worshipped the Shogun as a god. Europe was more of a police state, in my opinion being ruled by tyrannical kings and lords who were probably far worse than the Japanese were to the lower classes. Japan is a beautiful culture and really enjoyed this video.
No victory but death. Bit of a "self licking popsicle"... lol😅
Five ads in the first eight minutes ??? Come on.now. I’m tapping out.
@Metatron needs to see this one
Awesome scholarship and video!! I student of history, culture, and martial arts of Japan.
It's surprising to hear that revenge is still heralded as a virtue in Japan, or at least that is the impression given by the end of this short documentary. In Edo Japan, the 47's actions are a consequence of desperation, and it seems like given the facts as recorded by historians, they took liberty with how they interpreted their master's death. If vengeance in and of itself is a virtue, regardless of context or circumstance in Edo Japan, that's an interesting insight.
Having lived in Japan for decades, I can’t really say revenge (fukushu in Japanese) is integral in the society at all. I do notice it’s strong in Chinese society right up to the present.
@@KennethWedin Thanks for the clarification. This documentary to me encapsulates, if anything, how inflexible behavioral traditions of Edo Japan often clashed with one another to the point of death.
What started with critiques of social etiquette led to bloodshed, then death, just as another critique of etiquette - only this time, from the perspective of the 47 ronin - did the same. The narration romanticizes the efforts of the ronin, but it is still unclear whether that romanticism is representative of the cultural milieu then - or even the historical literature - or whether it is just the editorializing of the writers. It should be a little more clear on that front, especially when presenting history of a culture one is not native to.
I'm excited for this 1 😮 😊 😁
This was a well kept secret up until recent times but It was really supposed to be 48 Ronin but one of them died from debilitating foot fungus, (also known as athletes foot) while traveling to the targeted emperor’s palace. It was said that the 48th Ronin wore a pair of Air Jordan 1’s and he came down off his horse with itchy foot syndrome and inevitably lost his life. Having Itchy feet might have altered history in unforeseen ways.
Excellent love the honour these guys showed
"Ruthless Samurai" is redundant. It's like saying "Ruthless Roman Legionary" . They had to be Ruthless it wasn't a choice.
I deeply admire, Japanese Culture and history.
Asano's actor reminds me of Jin Sakai XD
Best metal work ever? Relax, it was not. Stop perpetrating this myth. Katanas were not superior swords you weebs
That what is? Please explain
Def among the best but yeah these historians r def weebs
There was a chinese sword that was found from ancient times that is still sharp as ever to this day. Don't know if it was better than the Japs, but might be.
The graves of the 47 ronin at Sengakuji are near my house, so every now and then we walk over and pay them a visit.
It's not about winning, it's about sending a message
Makes me want to watch kabuki theater before sleep
My Boerboel is named "Ronin Shenji". Weighs 58kg and does his work well...protecting us. After reading some of the comments and having some background I exited at 11 min.
a story as old as time and continuing today 😢
Wouldn't describe Samurai as 'black ops'
Why? Because they don't have night vision goggles and M4s? They were special soldiers conducting clandestine military operations under the cover of night. Of course the term "black ops" didn't exist in feudal japan. They used that term in this piece to give viewers a way to understand in more modern terms.
@@MMURDZZ
You are confusing the samurais with ninjas.
@Celisar1 No. I'm not. Im talking about the subjects of this video. Samurai/Ronin.
@MMURDZZ - Yes, you DO confuse samurai with shinobi.
What is the movie about the 47 Ronan.
47 ronin
In 2 months I’ll be training like a ninja
Ok, ok dude says "stealth" then proceeds to show the ronin running in yelling at the top of their lungs! Uh?
Why cant you people tell a story without loud music
Why 47 and not 45 or 50 ronins ? Was there a significance to the number 47 ? When did the "bushido" code adopted by the warriors ?
Remember. The winners get to tell the story. They do not necessarily tell the truth. You can easily find better and closer to truth than this.
loyalty is hardly seen or heard of nowadays. Pity.
If vengeance is legal, why do the ronin have to turn themselves in and die?
Revenge is only allowed when a parent is killed, but not for a boss.
Way to many Ads
*too many
Cant wait for some Crown mods 😂 Need to hear that v8
How much is inaccurate in this quote documentary. It would take too long to point out all the flaws. I do appreciate the cost and effort put into the realism.
Wasn't there a movie called 47 ronin ?
Is he saying "Sam, you alright?" Or is he trying to say "samurai?"
lol that guy looked like a Japanese version of Ja Rule 😂
So this is where they got the plot from for the 2004 movie King Arthur?
Finally the right word come up!
It was NOT defiance, it was honour!
"deadliest blade ever made" ... "the samurai black-ops in ancient Japan ... 1703"
honestly, not even 3 minutes and nothing but bs.
ancient japan? that would be before 1000 CE (give or take a couple hundred years), but 1703 is nowhere near ancient.
deadliest blade ever made? no. a kitchen knife soaked in feces is way more deadly than a katana. what you tried to say: "most beautiful" or "most refined". the "deadliness" of melee weapons lies primarily in the hands of the user and to a lesser degree in the weapon itself.
it really saddens me that you just fumble words and myths together in order to make your content sound "more cool" or "more epic". dude, the truth is epic enough and your fumbling made me stop watching at 2:41. utterly disgusting.
It's bothering me so much on how me pronounces Samurai.
The movie is really good and captivating, please release new videos so we can continue watching.
They accepted death, not obsessed, they were a cultured, and stouic peoples, with honour, and loyalty,they studied arts, calligraphy, a society very ritualistic, not obsessed with deat, theyvwere NOT AFRAID OF IT, it was alife of duty, not something most people are familiar with today.
The Last Samire 🎬 ❤️ 💯
Eichiro Oda in wano arc just shows us how the japanese is shown in this episode...he's shown us everything..About Shougun..About this suicide..and everything..you guys should watch ONE PIECE..Oda have shown us the real world in anime not about just ancient japan..but About the ancient world and the future..
It's like the story of the "Last Knights" movie starring Clive Owen and Morgan Freeman.
I visited their burial site in the early 2000s. I also took a tour based off the Ako Vendetta. After Miyamoto Mushashi it's my favorite historical type thing based in that amazing country. I'd love to go back but the traveling from the far NE of the US to Japan is pretty rough for someone who isn't great on flights. Which is a bummer because the countryside there is prob one of my favorite places I've visited outside the US. Tied with Guam and the Caribbean.
If I do decide I can put up with traveling such a long distance with the idiots(travelers and TSA clowns) and mega jet lag(and fear of those Boeing jets might fall apart like they have been so much lately)I'll be going to Norway/Scandinavia where my family is from. I've always wanted to ride on a Viking longship in a fjord...
This is a very good cultural , historical documentary on a specific Japanese group. The 47 Ronin. I needed to do a little research on the 3 warrior groups: Samurai, Ronin and Ninja, bc I did not know what the important differences are. Connected, but completely different functional needs bc of the class structure of those times in Japan.
Ultimately, I was interested in this particular historical event, bc when this happened,; 1701/1703; it was half a century later than I thought these famous 47 Ronin outlaw warriors were active. I thought this a very well done, presentation, with beautiful scenery, informative notes on the warrior type of equipment, materials, structure and high, unique quality of specific Japanese original creative knowledge and workmanship with steel and other unusual materials. Of that, the warrior equipment, behavior and training, I was glad to see highlighted in this historical story. Whatever was censored and caused a negative backlash, I don’t know about, so this viewing has some valid, interesting, sensitive and useful comments and perceptions in its’ form today.
Thank you for reposting!!! 👍🥰
I enjoyed the Video.I have films based on the Samurai,the Shogun,and
also the Ninja.
It's funny all the Japanese historians I've heard explain the rituals like sepukku differently. Like bleeding out over 3 days. Everything I've every seen they let a swordsman decapitate after the cutting to end them quicker so i assume rarely did they have someone bleed out for 3 days.
この時代の武士は、江戸の火災の際、火消しを要請されていた。浅野家は火消しで有名で、火消しの際使用する家の解体道具の使い方が上手く、吉良邸に突撃の際それを活用しました。またその際火消しの衣装でした。
In this era, samurai were requested to be firefighters in the event of a fire in Edo. The Asano family was famous for being firefighters, and they were good at using the tools used for demolition of houses, and they used them when they attacked the Kira residence. They also wore firefighter uniforms when they attacked the Kira residence.
So many errors in this documentary.
But, they emphasize what the public has been groomed to believe. Myth sells.
That is not to take ANYTHING from the 47.
Loyalty like that is very rare.
I was wondering why are these old white men telling me about this an not Japanese pple tell their history smh how can white men tell someone else’s history better than they own pple this is bs
Came to know the story through the movie but with this documentary could understand indeep more about 47 Ronin
The move was better tho. Keanu is a true Samurai.
The best historical film is Kurasawa's "Chushingura" -- came out in the 60's. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C5%ABshingura:_Hana_no_Maki,_Yuki_no_Maki
That’s what friends are for!
Killing me with sooo many ads! Trying to get some work done and the skip distraction is not helping.
One more AI narrated ad for a widget that is “taking the world by storm” and I’m going to lose bowel control.