Hi all, just wanted to explain that you may have seen this documentary pop up a couple of weeks ago. It was flagged for inappropriate verbal content - but we thought this doc was just too good to go, so we have removed the offending scene. Hope you enjoy!
I have heard it was really good, when I get Netflix again I will definitely watch it! Besides my own heritage I’m super interested in Japanese and Asian history. Actually I’m massively interested in all ancient history.
The graves of the 47 ronin at Sengakuji are near my house, so every now and then we walk over and pay them a visit. The most surprising aspect is the wide range of ages of the men (which are written on their tombs). They are as young as 16 but also there are ones in their 70s.
it is a true story of courage to do such a thing. To know they defied the shogun all for honour and to avenge their former master. That was true loyalty.
The 7 Virtues 1) Justice 2) Honor 3) Veracity 4) Politeness 5) Benevolence 6) Courage 7) Loyalty When written out vertically and from right to left, the first three are in a column.. Politeness is by itself in the center and written slightly higher... The last three are in the third column.... Even with the first column... Politeness was considered to be the greatest & most important which is why it was written more prominently in the center and higher than the rest...
I’m kind of dissapointed with the way the samurai are described in this. They weren’t all obsessed with death, nor was killing their only skill. They were just as focused on life as they were anything else. The way of the warrior wasn’t created to end life, it was created to foster it. Peace through military rigidity. They spent just as much time on the esoteric and philosophical arts as they did combat. They weren’t just mere warriors created to kill. Other than that this is a really great vid. You definitely need to do a bit more research on who the samurai were, and look at someone like Tomoé Gozen for example. As accomplished as she was martially, she was just as focused on the spiritual side of things as well. Bushido should be shown more and credited more.
Yes, because Japan was influenced by China in ancient times, many samurai and aristocrats understood literature and art. Samurai are not killing machines. They usually fight for their territory and family. When not at war, they will discuss and create like writers.
@@georgemargaritis2392 you need to study more than just basic literature that’s presented here in the west. Actually take a look at their history, their past, they were just as devoted to the arts even more so than war. Christ it’s like talking to a six year old. There are so many texts from the Sengoku Jirai period (Japans warring states era similar to Chinas) that show even in the midst of war they put a high value on the spiritual and the arts. Even Miyamoto Musashi dedicated as much of his time learning about life and art as he did about the sword. If all you’re going to do is base level research and look at one particular aspect of their history, you’re not going to get the full picture. Some of the best poets and painters have come from Japan and from the various periods where Samurai were well established and known as the military caste.
@@cos4779 Where do you want him to start ?? Good "story" but an obvious misinterpretation to say the least. This is a very biased opinion piece. Come out of your video world and do some research for yourself if you are truly interested in reality.
@cos4779 People are so ready to argue and be aggressive online. It's sad. They only do it because there is no face. They're removed. Kind of like you're quicker to get angry in traffic because it's a car instead of a discussion with a person. I'm guilty of it too sometimes so I try to read my comment and ask myself if I would talk this way to someone in person before submitting.
@@markrossow6303ok??? What's your point? Should we listen to your dad on how to pronounce Japanese? Like I agree this documentary is absurd, but I don't think the expert we need is your American dad, lmao
@@tobytakahashi392- As for the few words the actors spoke - was that even Japanese? I don't speak the language but it sounded so odd to me. Also, yes, the "semm-you-ray" was so bad, over and over again... 😂
@@yzwme586 This would be better explained with some research of your own. You're talking about centuries of history that this guy got wrong immediately and then doubled down.
Their so called expert had idea about how an ancient katana. The steel is called Tamahagane which is quite homogeneous do the folding and welding. The technique of building the blade out of different grades of steel to have high carbon on the edge, soft core and medium spine didn't come along until the 1900s when modern mono steels became available. I know better then to look at Timeline productions.
@@yuccaman3545there’s nothing wrong with history channels having historians from every background. Also there’s plenty of Chinese educators teaching English history to their students & vice Versa in universities, documentaries, podcasts ect. Even ticktok there’s history lovers from every race sharing world history stories they’ve learned with people globally. Being of a different culture don’t mean their uneducated on another.
The samurai were like the Spartans that valued art poems and war . 2 truly remarkable ways of life. There is a Japanese saying that you can spend a whole lifetime looking at a tree change through the seasons and if you only did that it wouldn’t be a wasted life Truly amazing
Weeb stuff, giving undue respect to barbaric and frankly stupid ideas, long discarded by the Japanese themselves But still held in high regard by anime dorks
Yes there were honourable Shogun but most of them were in a clan whilst many of those not in one often became thugs and thieves causing havoc with the poor and annoyance to the rich
Yeah. they made the mistake of claiming Japanese steel was the best in the world. Japanese iron deposits were low grade. What made the katana so good wasn't the steel. What made it good was the technique of folding the steel to produce tensile strength to counter how shit the steel was. Japanese steel was notorious for being brittle and has always largely been considered shit by anyone who has any experience in metallurgy...
British historians do seem to mangle Japanese, Chinese, and Korean names and words quite badly, compared to other English speakers. This is especially true of British professors, who rarely-if ever-seem to have bothered learning the languages of the lands in which they specialize.
It's a good documentary but there are two points of criticism: 1) I'm quite sure that Japanese people won't agree to bushi being all about death. It's a gross oversimplification 2) The already long refuted myth that the Katana is the best sword and had the best steel there ever was. A european medieval longsword can perform the same as a Katana. And on directly trying to cut each other the Katana will be distorted to almost unrecognizable shape. But I do agree that the Katana is an ingenious piece of art and design with elegance and beauty, that is also up to its task as a deadly efficient weapon.
Yout last para tells exactly why its get so many weebs around the world...whem u create something which is both elegant and deadly in the most refined way its bound to be famous
I am so glad they mentioned samurais used spears, blows and arrows, clubs, axes and other types of weapons after overpraising the katana. The primary weapons of the samurais in combat was not the katana but most often the bow and arrow and the spear, and later on, primitives black powder rifles. In fact, during combat if a samurai has to resort to using the katana, it is usually because he/she (and yes there were female samurais) screwed up badly somewhere during the fight.
This is one of the worst documentaries I've ever seen in regard to medieval Japan. It's full of errors and misunderstandings. Seppuku wasn't about dying in three days, an assistant cut your head after a few seconds. There are a lot of shortcuts on the story itself too.
@@curtblackwaterbassvick8112they said deadliest blade not weapon. Anyway, the Katana is known for being the sharpest sword ever made and I can guaranteed you it is, not on no “bias” video.
Katanas are made for slashing. Cruciforms are made for piercing metal armor. The Katana is the better blade, but not as good against metal armor as a Cruciform.
@@stevenhoskins7850 You dont know what you are talking about. Samurai Katana were low in quality due to lack of resources and some lack of innovation e.g. using a clay Katara that does not remove a high level of impurities and Iron ore sand that yes, could be mined and sifted from rivers but most came from beaches and lack of dealing with the sulphur and phosphorous within the iron ore..
Oh yes, I don't know if it will be mentioned later in the video --- 'Ronin' means 'masterless samurai'. I'm 10 mins into the video & they've used the term umpteen times, without defining it. Well, at least they're pronouncing it properly -- row-neen and not row-nin (short i).
This was a well kept secret up until recent times but It was really supposed to be 48 Ronin but one of them died from debilitating foot fungus, (also known as athletes foot) while traveling to the targeted emperor’s palace. It was said that the 48th Ronin wore a pair of Air Jordan 1’s and he came down off his horse with itchy foot syndrome and inevitably lost his life. Having Itchy feet might have altered history in unforeseen ways.
How much is inaccurate in this quote documentary. It would take too long to point out all the flaws. I do appreciate the cost and effort put into the realism.
Why? Because they don't have night vision goggles and M4s? They were special soldiers conducting clandestine military operations under the cover of night. Of course the term "black ops" didn't exist in feudal japan. They used that term in this piece to give viewers a way to understand in more modern terms.
My Boerboel is named "Ronin Shenji". Weighs 58kg and does his work well...protecting us. After reading some of the comments and having some background I exited at 11 min.
Eichiro Oda in wano arc just shows us how the japanese is shown in this episode...he's shown us everything..About Shougun..About this suicide..and everything..you guys should watch ONE PIECE..Oda have shown us the real world in anime not about just ancient japan..but About the ancient world and the future..
I visited their burial site in the early 2000s. I also took a tour based off the Ako Vendetta. After Miyamoto Mushashi it's my favorite historical type thing based in that amazing country. I'd love to go back but the traveling from the far NE of the US to Japan is pretty rough for someone who isn't great on flights. Which is a bummer because the countryside there is prob one of my favorite places I've visited outside the US. Tied with Guam and the Caribbean. If I do decide I can put up with traveling such a long distance with the idiots(travelers and TSA clowns) and mega jet lag(and fear of those Boeing jets might fall apart like they have been so much lately)I'll be going to Norway/Scandinavia where my family is from. I've always wanted to ride on a Viking longship in a fjord...
It's surprising to hear that revenge is still heralded as a virtue in Japan, or at least that is the impression given by the end of this short documentary. In Edo Japan, the 47's actions are a consequence of desperation, and it seems like given the facts as recorded by historians, they took liberty with how they interpreted their master's death. If vengeance in and of itself is a virtue, regardless of context or circumstance in Edo Japan, that's an interesting insight.
Having lived in Japan for decades, I can’t really say revenge (fukushu in Japanese) is integral in the society at all. I do notice it’s strong in Chinese society right up to the present.
@@KennethWedin Thanks for the clarification. This documentary to me encapsulates, if anything, how inflexible behavioral traditions of Edo Japan often clashed with one another to the point of death. What started with critiques of social etiquette led to bloodshed, then death, just as another critique of etiquette - only this time, from the perspective of the 47 ronin - did the same. The narration romanticizes the efforts of the ronin, but it is still unclear whether that romanticism is representative of the cultural milieu then - or even the historical literature - or whether it is just the editorializing of the writers. It should be a little more clear on that front, especially when presenting history of a culture one is not native to.
So many errors in this documentary. But, they emphasize what the public has been groomed to believe. Myth sells. That is not to take ANYTHING from the 47. Loyalty like that is very rare.
Recommend to watch Last Knight with Clive Owens and Morgan Freeman. This is what movie that we should have in place of 47 ronin. I'm pretty sure this move made as close as it can to represent the 47 ronin.
Seppuku is misrepresented in this video. It's not about showing enemies that "you cannot kill me even I am defeated". In fact it's the honor given by the enemy to the defeated to kill himself because Samurai were taught to "honor your enemy". Samurai tried to treat their enemies with honor. It's not about being cocky "You can't kill me". I am very disappointed that Timeline made this video about Samurai when they know nothing about Samurai. I discontinued watching this video at this point because I highly doubt the rest of the content.
I love your documentary as an African-American growing up in San Francisco I did a couple Asian women almost got married spent a lot of time at the Japanese cultural center in San Francisco we are both in college together and she used to tell me a lot of stuff and me and her family we always had a good life together but nothing bad you know that you're moving on you moving on but I wish I had her now cuz she had gave me so much knowledge on that culture God bless you on your video😂😂😂
Amazing Thanks 👍🏿 from what i read YRZ AGO from 1701 samari were focus on peace thru honour respect, loyalty & manners. Prince of country side a born heritage samari was warrior class 🤑 which could become arrogant and irrational..still more to learn samari seemed Ageless...
There was a chinese sword that was found from ancient times that is still sharp as ever to this day. Don't know if it was better than the Japs, but might be.
It wouldn't be like drawing a gun in Buckingham Palace because the punishment wouldn't be 100% definite for anything done in Britain. And it had absolutely happened before during the same shoguns reign! Those are two facts. What isn't a fact at all is what happened after the affair at the palace, because there was nobody left to tell the tale.
You should read the comments before commenting something so stupid. One for example is pointed out that they are talking about the Shinsengumi who weren’t even around until the 1700s Take time before looking foolish and practice mindfulness
It's funny all the Japanese historians I've heard explain the rituals like sepukku differently. Like bleeding out over 3 days. Everything I've every seen they let a swordsman decapitate after the cutting to end them quicker so i assume rarely did they have someone bleed out for 3 days.
The notion that the samurai have no other skills other than to deliver death is utterly false. They're required to take on live skills and art as well. As an Asian who have studied a lot about histories of multiple Asian cultures, I find this to be very insulting.
Great sword but I read the quality of the European sword is higher than the samurai sword as the Japanese had not learnt the high temperature smelting process which removed more impurities
Who on earth made those supposed single-layer kimono and hakama? Clearly, they’re from some British thrift shop, likely imported from Vietnam, if not simply made by a British or Chinese seamstress from embarrassingly gaudy rayon. Likewise, the parchment paper is of ridiculously poor quality, and the text clearly was printed out with a printer rather than written cursively with a brush. I love Timeline, but the production value of this video was so embarrassing that I eventually had to just listen without watching.
This DOC makes Lord Asano seem like an unlikeable person, yet he was avenged under the penalty of death by his former men. Makes Kira seem like an innocent individual. Just does not make sense some men would sacrifice themselves for a such a person depicted on this small docu.
Killing me with sooo many ads! Trying to get some work done and the skip distraction is not helping. One more AI narrated ad for a widget that is “taking the world by storm” and I’m going to lose bowel control.
the test off death, you dont simply go somewhere magical, you will feel your decay for a period off time. simple death is a painful death. better off being butchered in battle, smaller pieces disappear quicker leading to a fast transfer off soul to wherever it goes
Hi all, just wanted to explain that you may have seen this documentary pop up a couple of weeks ago. It was flagged for inappropriate verbal content - but we thought this doc was just too good to go, so we have removed the offending scene. Hope you enjoy!
The offending scene is the best bit
What offending scene? 🤔
Surely removing the scene is for want of a better explanation censoring history?
A history channel approves of censoring the past.
I have heard it was really good, when I get Netflix again I will definitely watch it! Besides my own heritage I’m super interested in Japanese and Asian history. Actually I’m massively interested in all ancient history.
The graves of the 47 ronin at Sengakuji are near my house, so every now and then we walk over and pay them a visit. The most surprising aspect is the wide range of ages of the men (which are written on their tombs). They are as young as 16 but also there are ones in their 70s.
it is a true story of courage to do such a thing. To know they defied the shogun all for honour and to avenge their former master. That was true loyalty.
Tht awesome 😮😮
You mean there’s people… that are actually different ages? Wooooooaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh! That’s the craziest thing I’ve ever heard!
@@FearTheIndoorHorseRancher haha good one. You really got him. 🤦
Fear people like you mess the internet up for everyone
The 7 Virtues
1) Justice
2) Honor
3) Veracity
4) Politeness
5) Benevolence
6) Courage
7) Loyalty
When written out vertically and from right to left, the first three are in a column..
Politeness is by itself in the center and written slightly higher... The last three are in the third column.... Even with the first column... Politeness was considered to be the greatest & most important which is why it was written more prominently in the center and higher than the rest...
I’m kind of dissapointed with the way the samurai are described in this. They weren’t all obsessed with death, nor was killing their only skill. They were just as focused on life as they were anything else. The way of the warrior wasn’t created to end life, it was created to foster it. Peace through military rigidity. They spent just as much time on the esoteric and philosophical arts as they did combat. They weren’t just mere warriors created to kill. Other than that this is a really great vid. You definitely need to do a bit more research on who the samurai were, and look at someone like Tomoé Gozen for example. As accomplished as she was martially, she was just as focused on the spiritual side of things as well.
Bushido should be shown more and credited more.
They were all about war,
Tearing apart Japan in their thirst for power until they were finally defeated.
What are your sources, or where does your expertise come from? Playing Sega doesn't qualify.
They harrass peasants before breakfast everyday. Create to foster life lol they are not doctors.
Yes, because Japan was influenced by China in ancient times, many samurai and aristocrats understood literature and art. Samurai are not killing machines. They usually fight for their territory and family. When not at war, they will discuss and create like writers.
@@georgemargaritis2392 you need to study more than just basic literature that’s presented here in the west. Actually take a look at their history, their past, they were just as devoted to the arts even more so than war. Christ it’s like talking to a six year old. There are so many texts from the Sengoku Jirai period (Japans warring states era similar to Chinas) that show even in the midst of war they put a high value on the spiritual and the arts. Even Miyamoto Musashi dedicated as much of his time learning about life and art as he did about the sword. If all you’re going to do is base level research and look at one particular aspect of their history, you’re not going to get the full picture. Some of the best poets and painters have come from Japan and from the various periods where Samurai were well established and known as the military caste.
The depiction of the samurai here is insulting!
How so, and why?
@@cos4779 Where do you want him to start ?? Good "story" but an obvious misinterpretation to say the least. This is a very biased opinion piece. Come out of your video world and do some research for yourself if you are truly interested in reality.
@@78tag lmao, so aggressive. calm down bud. i was just asking for his opinion, dont have to give sass.
@cos4779 People are so ready to argue and be aggressive online. It's sad. They only do it because there is no face. They're removed. Kind of like you're quicker to get angry in traffic because it's a car instead of a discussion with a person.
I'm guilty of it too sometimes so I try to read my comment and ask myself if I would talk this way to someone in person before submitting.
This is so anachronistic it hurts the eyes. And costumes and hairdressing are just the beginning.
Samurai
Kanji for Samurai - 侍
Hiragana for Samurai - さむらい
Each Hiragana character is a syllable:
さ - Sa (sah)
む - Mu (moo)
ら - Ra (rah)
い - I (ee)
Whereas the term "samurai" was only used for the warrior class exclusively in the Edo period.
Typical Europeans.they want to learn then infiltrate yet become then they become and steal your identity.as they done the the Jim
I never want to hear "Sam-YOUR-eye" again
sahm oo rah ee
so my Dad was U.S. Army MI on Okinawa ( oh keh nah wah ) in '64 / '65
My ears are bleeding
@@markrossow6303ok??? What's your point? Should we listen to your dad on how to pronounce Japanese?
Like I agree this documentary is absurd, but I don't think the expert we need is your American dad, lmao
@@cherrylimesatan as a Japanese it truly is hurting my ears, it's like hearing someone say Marine as Marhaine over and over
@@tobytakahashi392- As for the few words the actors spoke - was that even Japanese? I don't speak the language but it sounded so odd to me.
Also, yes, the "semm-you-ray" was so bad, over and over again... 😂
Anybody here watching that new Shogun show? It's really really good! Highly recommend.
I did it was amazing.
I watched the first 4 episodes but then it got boring, but I watched the age of samurai on Netflix and holy lord that was great
The book Shogun by James Clavell is a great read.
Yeah it was brilliant, it's based on a true story too, the English guy was based on William Adams, and Toranaga was based on Tokugawa Ieyasu
Best show in a long time
I like how the first 20 seconds are filled with historical inaccuracies and lies. Doesn't bode well for the rest of the show.
I got to 0:28 before the cringe overwhelmed me 😄
Yes, I immediately started to think about who backed this production.
couldn't agree more, this misrepresentation of Japanese society is an abomination
explain
@@yzwme586 This would be better explained with some research of your own. You're talking about centuries of history that this guy got wrong immediately and then doubled down.
When the bloke in the first minute said:'it almost feels it's alive...', I realized it's going to be a fanboy documentary.
I almost stopped watching when that dude said that and nobody made fun of him
Their so called expert had idea about how an ancient katana. The steel is called Tamahagane which is quite homogeneous do the folding and welding. The technique of building the blade out of different grades of steel to have high carbon on the edge, soft core and medium spine didn't come along until the 1900s when modern mono steels became available.
I know better then to look at Timeline productions.
I find it very amusing that all the "experts" are British. It would be like a Japanese TV series explaining the history of England.
@@yuccaman3545 I'm with that...😎
@@yuccaman3545there’s nothing wrong with history channels having historians from every background. Also there’s plenty of Chinese educators teaching English history to their students & vice Versa in universities, documentaries, podcasts ect. Even ticktok there’s history lovers from every race sharing world history stories they’ve learned with people globally. Being of a different culture don’t mean their uneducated on another.
The samurai were like the Spartans that valued art poems and war . 2 truly remarkable ways of life. There is a Japanese saying that you can spend a whole lifetime looking at a tree change through the seasons and if you only did that it wouldn’t be a wasted life
Truly amazing
Discipline taken to brilliant heights
The Japanese are really good at hiding their history huh?
Weeb stuff, giving undue respect to barbaric and frankly stupid ideas, long discarded by the Japanese themselves
But still held in high regard by anime dorks
Yes there were honourable Shogun but most of them were in a clan whilst many of those not in one often became thugs and thieves causing havoc with the poor and annoyance to the rich
First few words in and already I can see doc based on more myth than fact.
I was done at the black ops comment lol
Yeah. they made the mistake of claiming Japanese steel was the best in the world. Japanese iron deposits were low grade. What made the katana so good wasn't the steel. What made it good was the technique of folding the steel to produce tensile strength to counter how shit the steel was. Japanese steel was notorious for being brittle and has always largely been considered shit by anyone who has any experience in metallurgy...
@@Broken_Broom99 That and the shameless katana jerking despite all evidence to the contrary. That was the “Yup, I'm clicking off” point.
The katana was the utmost in technology......for cutting down unarmed peasants who disrespected you@@leburger5160
Japanese culture as understood by Westerners
Sucks to learn we've all been saying "Samurai" wrong.
Imagine 47 super angry, 10th Dan++ Samurai coming for you one evening at home. Bad day any century.
It was a thrilled watching documentary about shogun rule and Semoray fighters clans... Thank you (Timeline) for sharing
The British way of pronouncing samurai always catches me off guard. It’s so funny to my ear
lol SAM-your-rye
Definitely cringe.
British historians do seem to mangle Japanese, Chinese, and Korean names and words quite badly, compared to other English speakers. This is especially true of British professors, who rarely-if ever-seem to have bothered learning the languages of the lands in which they specialize.
Arimasen.
Sam E Rye
Two years. Revenge is a dish best served cold.
The lengths they went to and the long time they left it before striking amazes me. Brilliant story of revenge for there master. 🙏
Yer but they should "Get a life". Miserable buggers.
It's a good documentary but there are two points of criticism:
1) I'm quite sure that Japanese people won't agree to bushi being all about death. It's a gross oversimplification
2) The already long refuted myth that the Katana is the best sword and had the best steel there ever was. A european medieval longsword can perform the same as a Katana. And on directly trying to cut each other the Katana will be distorted to almost unrecognizable shape.
But I do agree that the Katana is an ingenious piece of art and design with elegance and beauty, that is also up to its task as a deadly efficient weapon.
Yout last para tells exactly why its get so many weebs around the world...whem u create something which is both elegant and deadly in the most refined way its bound to be famous
I am so glad they mentioned samurais used spears, blows and arrows, clubs, axes and other types of weapons after overpraising the katana. The primary weapons of the samurais in combat was not the katana but most often the bow and arrow and the spear, and later on, primitives black powder rifles. In fact, during combat if a samurai has to resort to using the katana, it is usually because he/she (and yes there were female samurais) screwed up badly somewhere during the fight.
I love this story: hardened warriors exact justice against a corrupt, useless, and petty bureaucrat.
This is wrong at 40:09 they have shinsengumi in the video. They didnt exist in the 1700s.
They're taking creative liberties to tell the story... Any sense of historical accuracy is thrown out the window
Japan takes everything to another level. They really take "do everything to the best of your ability" seriously
🤣 Nice one
nirvana on earth
Yeah including being pedos
@@frankmanitta4870- I very much doubt that the bushi class saw their world as nirvana...
9:55 was a pretty interesting scene where dude gets down on one knee and chops his katana at the grass. Sent shivers down my spine.
"the deadliest blade ever made"😂😂😂
cutting power, it the 14th century Turkish killij for durability and versability i chose 15 century longswords
It isn't the blade that becomes the deadliest it's the person.
Definitely one of
They are NOT obsessed with death. They believe in reincarnation, and so they are not AFRAID of death
This is one of the worst documentaries I've ever seen in regard to medieval Japan. It's full of errors and misunderstandings. Seppuku wasn't about dying in three days, an assistant cut your head after a few seconds. There are a lot of shortcuts on the story itself too.
Any suggestions then ?
I agree, it starts off saying the katana is the deadliest weapon ever made. This documentary seems to be opinion based with little facts
Which would you recommend?
@@curtblackwaterbassvick8112they said deadliest blade not weapon. Anyway, the Katana is known for being the sharpest sword ever made and I can guaranteed you it is, not on no “bias” video.
And the costume, hairstyle and having the slipper in the room where he sits are wrong
I wonder which is a higher quality sword, a katana, or a sword made of Damascus steel?
Thx for sharing this video 🤙🏽
Excellent love the honour these guys showed
Great story! Excellent stuff
Nothin worse than bringing a weapon to bear,that falls apart . The sword of the Samurai is tool of definite results
I so I've heard about how great the katana is...but japanese were impressed by European arms armor
The Japanese armies of that time period were not opposed to using better weapons and armor especially if it helps them get ahead in fighting.
Katanas are made for slashing. Cruciforms are made for piercing metal armor.
The Katana is the better blade, but not as good against metal armor as a Cruciform.
@@stevenhoskins7850 not better, different. But your info is spot on.
@@stevenhoskins7850 You dont know what you are talking about. Samurai Katana were low in quality due to lack of resources and some lack of innovation e.g. using a clay Katara that does not remove a high level of impurities and Iron ore sand that yes, could be mined and sifted from rivers but most came from beaches and lack of dealing with the sulphur and phosphorous within the iron ore..
The first gun was invented from China. And gun powder came from China. Just reminding
they always say it is bad to fight against power, but those who do are in fact the real heroes
What a great class of warriors.. the world will never see again 🙏👹
"it's just a vendetta, go back to sleep"
"ok"
Oh yes, I don't know if it will be mentioned later in the video --- 'Ronin' means 'masterless samurai'. I'm 10 mins into the video & they've used the term umpteen times, without defining it. Well, at least they're pronouncing it properly -- row-neen and not row-nin (short i).
@Metatron needs to see this one
I hope the creators of Shogun tv show give us a spin off show of the 47 ronin I think it'll be cool to see more about Japanese history
Five ads in the first eight minutes ??? Come on.now. I’m tapping out.
loyalty is hardly seen or heard of nowadays. Pity.
Awesome scholarship and video!! I student of history, culture, and martial arts of Japan.
This was a well kept secret up until recent times but It was really supposed to be 48 Ronin but one of them died from debilitating foot fungus, (also known as athletes foot) while traveling to the targeted emperor’s palace. It was said that the 48th Ronin wore a pair of Air Jordan 1’s and he came down off his horse with itchy foot syndrome and inevitably lost his life. Having Itchy feet might have altered history in unforeseen ways.
It's not about winning, it's about sending a message
The movie is really good and captivating, please release new videos so we can continue watching.
How much is inaccurate in this quote documentary. It would take too long to point out all the flaws. I do appreciate the cost and effort put into the realism.
The graves of the 47 ronin at Sengakuji are near my house, so every now and then we walk over and pay them a visit.
Wouldn't describe Samurai as 'black ops'
Why? Because they don't have night vision goggles and M4s? They were special soldiers conducting clandestine military operations under the cover of night. Of course the term "black ops" didn't exist in feudal japan. They used that term in this piece to give viewers a way to understand in more modern terms.
@@MMURDZZ
You are confusing the samurais with ninjas.
@Celisar1 No. I'm not. Im talking about the subjects of this video. Samurai/Ronin.
@MMURDZZ - Yes, you DO confuse samurai with shinobi.
My Boerboel is named "Ronin Shenji". Weighs 58kg and does his work well...protecting us. After reading some of the comments and having some background I exited at 11 min.
Is he saying "Sam, you alright?" Or is he trying to say "samurai?"
shogun brings me here
Remember. The winners get to tell the story. They do not necessarily tell the truth. You can easily find better and closer to truth than this.
Eichiro Oda in wano arc just shows us how the japanese is shown in this episode...he's shown us everything..About Shougun..About this suicide..and everything..you guys should watch ONE PIECE..Oda have shown us the real world in anime not about just ancient japan..but About the ancient world and the future..
so... this video was created by a high school kid living in the suburbs who has watched a lot of anime.
I visited their burial site in the early 2000s. I also took a tour based off the Ako Vendetta. After Miyamoto Mushashi it's my favorite historical type thing based in that amazing country. I'd love to go back but the traveling from the far NE of the US to Japan is pretty rough for someone who isn't great on flights. Which is a bummer because the countryside there is prob one of my favorite places I've visited outside the US. Tied with Guam and the Caribbean.
If I do decide I can put up with traveling such a long distance with the idiots(travelers and TSA clowns) and mega jet lag(and fear of those Boeing jets might fall apart like they have been so much lately)I'll be going to Norway/Scandinavia where my family is from. I've always wanted to ride on a Viking longship in a fjord...
Cant wait for some Crown mods 😂 Need to hear that v8
That’s what friends are for!
I'm excited for this 1 😮 😊 😁
It's like the story of the "Last Knights" movie starring Clive Owen and Morgan Freeman.
The Last Samire 🎬 ❤️ 💯
If vengeance is legal, why do the ronin have to turn themselves in and die?
Revenge is only allowed when a parent is killed, but not for a boss.
It's surprising to hear that revenge is still heralded as a virtue in Japan, or at least that is the impression given by the end of this short documentary. In Edo Japan, the 47's actions are a consequence of desperation, and it seems like given the facts as recorded by historians, they took liberty with how they interpreted their master's death. If vengeance in and of itself is a virtue, regardless of context or circumstance in Edo Japan, that's an interesting insight.
Having lived in Japan for decades, I can’t really say revenge (fukushu in Japanese) is integral in the society at all. I do notice it’s strong in Chinese society right up to the present.
@@KennethWedin Thanks for the clarification. This documentary to me encapsulates, if anything, how inflexible behavioral traditions of Edo Japan often clashed with one another to the point of death.
What started with critiques of social etiquette led to bloodshed, then death, just as another critique of etiquette - only this time, from the perspective of the 47 ronin - did the same. The narration romanticizes the efforts of the ronin, but it is still unclear whether that romanticism is representative of the cultural milieu then - or even the historical literature - or whether it is just the editorializing of the writers. It should be a little more clear on that front, especially when presenting history of a culture one is not native to.
So many errors in this documentary.
But, they emphasize what the public has been groomed to believe. Myth sells.
That is not to take ANYTHING from the 47.
Loyalty like that is very rare.
Recommend to watch Last Knight with Clive Owens and Morgan Freeman. This is what movie that we should have in place of 47 ronin. I'm pretty sure this move made as close as it can to represent the 47 ronin.
Makes me want to watch kabuki theater before sleep
Way to many Ads
*too many
Seppuku is misrepresented in this video. It's not about showing enemies that "you cannot kill me even I am defeated". In fact it's the honor given by the enemy to the defeated to kill himself because Samurai were taught to "honor your enemy". Samurai tried to treat their enemies with honor. It's not about being cocky "You can't kill me". I am very disappointed that Timeline made this video about Samurai when they know nothing about Samurai. I discontinued watching this video at this point because I highly doubt the rest of the content.
Many Japanese historians disagree with much of this story told by british story tellers.
Fitting in: can you imagine
I love your documentary as an African-American growing up in San Francisco I did a couple Asian women almost got married spent a lot of time at the Japanese cultural center in San Francisco we are both in college together and she used to tell me a lot of stuff and me and her family we always had a good life together but nothing bad you know that you're moving on you moving on but I wish I had her now cuz she had gave me so much knowledge on that culture God bless you on your video😂😂😂
You „did“ women.
The most disrespectful way to refer to any sort of relationship.
Tells us a lot about you and nothing good.
No victory but death. Bit of a "self licking popsicle"... lol😅
Stop watchng at 0.53
Deadliest blade ever made.
Respectful ❤
Came to know the story through the movie but with this documentary could understand indeep more about 47 Ronin
The move was better tho. Keanu is a true Samurai.
The best historical film is Kurasawa's "Chushingura" -- came out in the 60's. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C5%ABshingura:_Hana_no_Maki,_Yuki_no_Maki
Amazing Thanks 👍🏿 from what i read YRZ AGO from 1701 samari were focus on peace thru honour respect, loyalty & manners. Prince of country side a born heritage samari was warrior class 🤑 which could become arrogant and irrational..still more to learn samari seemed Ageless...
Best metal work ever? Relax, it was not. Stop perpetrating this myth. Katanas were not superior swords you weebs
That what is? Please explain
Def among the best but yeah these historians r def weebs
There was a chinese sword that was found from ancient times that is still sharp as ever to this day. Don't know if it was better than the Japs, but might be.
only in giving yourself to something bigger than yourself do you become more than what you are.
It wouldn't be like drawing a gun in Buckingham Palace because the punishment wouldn't be 100% definite for anything done in Britain. And it had absolutely happened before during the same shoguns reign! Those are two facts. What isn't a fact at all is what happened after the affair at the palace, because there was nobody left to tell the tale.
Asano's actor reminds me of Jin Sakai XD
A lot of dorks saying this video is "historically inaccurate" but I don’t see anyone explaining how.
You should read the comments before commenting something so stupid.
One for example is pointed out that they are talking about the Shinsengumi who weren’t even around until the 1700s
Take time before looking foolish and practice mindfulness
@@MadeMan-m8w
At which point during this video was the Shinsengumi mentioned or discussed? I must have missed that reference...
Almost every comment criticizing it explains how, you absolute neanderthal.
It's funny all the Japanese historians I've heard explain the rituals like sepukku differently. Like bleeding out over 3 days. Everything I've every seen they let a swordsman decapitate after the cutting to end them quicker so i assume rarely did they have someone bleed out for 3 days.
Samurai, weren't a military elite, they were the royalty who were trained in military excellence.
the ignorance of this video is insane
The notion that the samurai have no other skills other than to deliver death is utterly false. They're required to take on live skills and art as well. As an Asian who have studied a lot about histories of multiple Asian cultures, I find this to be very insulting.
In 2 months I’ll be training like a ninja
Great sword but I read the quality of the European sword is higher than the samurai sword as the Japanese had not learnt the high temperature smelting process which removed more impurities
Who on earth made those supposed single-layer kimono and hakama? Clearly, they’re from some British thrift shop, likely imported from Vietnam, if not simply made by a British or Chinese seamstress from embarrassingly gaudy rayon. Likewise, the parchment paper is of ridiculously poor quality, and the text clearly was printed out with a printer rather than written cursively with a brush. I love Timeline, but the production value of this video was so embarrassing that I eventually had to just listen without watching.
This DOC makes Lord Asano seem like an unlikeable person, yet he was avenged under the penalty of death by his former men.
Makes Kira seem like an innocent individual.
Just does not make sense some men would sacrifice themselves for a such a person depicted on this small docu.
Killing me with sooo many ads! Trying to get some work done and the skip distraction is not helping.
One more AI narrated ad for a widget that is “taking the world by storm” and I’m going to lose bowel control.
I'm sure glad these Englishmen explained Japanese culture to me. From first-hand experience, no doubt.
Domo. From everyone who just had a Tishiro moment.
Mifume. Baka
Would of been a better story for the new assassins creed game than what they came up with
The deadliest blade ever made? If you mean how many people have died to it, then maybe. But if you’re talking the most efficient at killing…. Nah.
the test off death, you dont simply go somewhere magical, you will feel your decay for a period off time. simple death is a painful death. better off being butchered in battle, smaller pieces disappear quicker leading to a fast transfer off soul to wherever it goes
lol that guy looked like a Japanese version of Ja Rule 😂
I enjoyed the Video.I have films based on the Samurai,the Shogun,and
also the Ninja.
'samyurai' come on
The forms of Kanly have been obeyed!
Why 47 and not 45 or 50 ronins ? Was there a significance to the number 47 ? When did the "bushido" code adopted by the warriors ?
Awesome.
I see Samurai I watch