Sebastian Junger - War in Afghanistan
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2012
- Journalist and best-selling author Sebastian Junger discusses his book, "War," an account of his time with a US Army platoon on the battlefields of Afghanistan. Presented by Harvard Book Store. For one year, in 2007--2008, Sebastian Junger accompanied 30 men--a single platoon--from the storied 2nd battalion of the US Army as they fought their way through a remote valley in eastern Afghanistan. Over the course of five trips, Junger was in more firefights than he could count, as men he knew were killed or wounded and he himself was almost killed. This lecture contains graphic language. More lectures at forum-network.org
This talk took place on June 1, 2011.
This guy's voice projects strength and discipline, but his eyes tell you he's seen some things he wishes he hadn't.
I have a great deal of respect for any journalist that is willing to be put in harm's way to tell the story of what our veterans go through but NOBODY lays it out in such a clear and concise way that makes it easier to understand from a civilians perspective as mr junger does. And to any veteran that may happen to read this thank you so much for your service and all the sacrifices that come with it.
As a combat medic who served in war. This book was very cathartic and useful.
We talked with Sebastian in Dallas this last weekend @ the Angelika, he watched 'Korengal' with us and then opened a Q & A with a handful of soldiers who toured in that area - very interesting subject - great documentary coverage - some amazing stories. WWII and Vietnam vets were in the audience all around me giving accolades for the importance of showing soldier viewpoints - Junger was very modest, open, and focused on unbiased interaction the entire time - definitely worth seeing Korengal (and Restrepo) if anyone has not yet.
He saying things that no one has talked about from WW2 to today. He abs clear, powerful and passionate. He's been there and done it. With them. I'm getting his book. Watch his film 'Restreppo' too.
i agree, he has a honest non-biased style of writing that has been almost lost in the mainstream media through strong political views and the stubbornness of the leading parties, people started caring about beliefs and ideals more than other people
it's the sonic boom of the bullet as it breaks through the sound barrier you here when they fly past..
All I have to say is thank you for your ability to produce Restrepo there are not many documentaries on par with reality of War than that so thank you
Junger is a legend
I am in awe. Thank you united state fighting man. I have always respected your courage. God bless and heal you. Thank you is never enough
Very articulate and insightful, really explains the paradoxical nature of war to the people who choose to serve
His thoughts and insights are spot on
At 27:18 he misses that we used to live in extended family groups not amongst random strangers who are not genetically related to us, it's the GENE meta game he misses.
Just read Tribe and War. Such a great writer.
Thanks for your Insight, courage, and care Sebastian. This process that solders go through needs to be examined, understood, and supported. The need to feel valid, and the need for connection in society is necessary. cheers brother
You can see war in his eyes :(
god i miss rc east. if the army told me i was going back it would be a dream come true. The opportunity to be close brothers with people again. The opportunity to have an adrenaline rush. Theres nothing truly like the feeling when you get there. Now all i can do is dream about it. And wonder if ill have the opportunity to go there and be as close as brothers with the men in my unit again.
If you are that eager to die... Go be a mercenary
@@c.a.t4607 you don't know what you're talking about
That was very interesting
its not possible anymore to contact the soldiers? i dont see the tab on his website
In the Ia Drang Valley, combat cameramen had to down camera and up rifle.
This guy. It hurts.
As we learn from this kind of interviews, quote from Fallout game series comes into mind. It comes in mind but in different shape: " War, war always changes whoever gets involved into it".
Perfectly articulated. Fucking nailed it.
I was jan 2002 to dez 2003 in Afghanistan, i'm German...
How did it go?
I’d like him to come speak at our MSVA function this summer. I’m sure he will touch many veteran’s lives.
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This is why people who were never there can never understand . And why the old saying applies more than ever " walk a mile in their shoes ".
Miles and miles
He is a better man than me, I could not go into Zone not armed.
Sounds like Sebastian would be a good one to deconstruct the North Korean regime.
Why do we want to go back? Its because we feel there is unfinished business. Its not done until its done completely.
Anybody here after Joe Rogan?
Where is documentary
@@gm-ui3hr I don't think it's on yt
@@lukaszk2929 do you know the name bruh
@@gm-ui3hr Restrepo
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We bring peace to a region by using force. The dead no nothing except this: why didn't they do this sooner?
What changed in korengal? Absolutely NOTHING...
Whilst in the combat zone, why couldn't Junger carry a weapon, defend himself from people that were trying to kill him, and not remain an honest, civilian, journalist?
I think it has to do with remaining objective, doing what you can to represent a situation with as little bias as is possible. With anything that you do (including a job), you bring your own experiences and biases with you, and they influence the decisions you make. When your role is to take in, organize, and convey information like a journalist, there are a bunch of techniques and guiding principles that help you minimize the effects of your personal views.
He's talked about conversations he had with his photojournalist friend, Tim Hetherington, about what the tipping point would be to step out of the role of the journalist and into the role of the human that is fighting to survive. Tim died in Libya from an explosion in 2011.
Junger has an organization called RISC that provides medical training to freelance journalists who report in combat zones. The idea is that they can help themselves, other journalists, and potentially combat personnel in really dire situations.
Andrew Warfield also liabilities
@MarsOz that's the official reason. if you dig a little deeper, you'll find out, it's the uncomfortable feeling, and risk of the platoon to have someone with you who isn't trained properly with a gun. could be as risky as enemy fire in the end.
It is forbidden for Press to be armed while assigned to military units, this would make the a combatant.
Honestly, it's more of a guideline that most agree to follow. Everyone agrees that medics, journalists and a few others like downed pilots (not airborne infantry, they're fair game) are off limits out of common courtesy. If someone breaches the agreement, no one ever gets upset if they arm themselves. Most conflicts now are relatively tame where professional militaries are involved, so you don't see it very often. However, 50 years ago you would be hard pressed to find a combat medic or journalist that wasn't armed.
If he was at Restrepo and it was at serious risk of being overrun by enemy combatants, he probably would have picked up a weapon and no one would have complained.
At 8:02 is when I know he is legit and has not realized yet he has PTS.
Your first error is wanting to know what it's like to be a soldier without being one. Which is what you said in the first minute. Unfortunately you make an error to assume you know what it is like to be a soldier just by hanging with them. . You will "never" know until you carry a rifle and shoot. Just being there is not an honorary badge of equality of thoughts and feelings. Just be clear your observations are just that ........ Don't make it sound like an absolute.
+bman098 you shut the fuck up. Being loud doesn't make you have right. At ease bman.
You owe me ten bucks.
That's why he interviewed so many of the platoon and the company HQ. He's not claiming to know every detail of a soldier's experience.
+bman You could use more church. Jesus Christ is the prince of peace. Who would you rather be ruled by?
He's an atheist, yet mentions miracles. Sounds like hypocrisy.
Why are we fighting in Afghanistan and how are they a threat to the United States?
The US and over a dozen other countries have been fighting in Afghanistan because the Taliban wants Pakistan's nuclear weapons, which would cause global chaos.
This video makes no mention that the USA bankrolled the Taliban to bribe an end to the Afghan tribal war that started in 1993 in the objective of establishing regional peace to build an overland pipeline from the Caspian Sea to Karachi. It was known for decades that Turkmenistan contained huge deposits of oil, except it was behind the Iron Curtain. When the USSR system collapsed, the west rushed in. The US feted the Taliban, who are 8th century cavemen, and acknowledged as de facto rulers of Afghanistan, a disaster, to ink a deal with UNOCAL. The US-financed Taliban rejected UNOCAL for the Argentinian firm Bridas. The US exploited 9/11 as grounds to invade Afghanistan and evict the cavemen it handed hundreds of millions to. So all these American soldiers that Sebastian Junger glorifies in this video and his documentary, some KIA, others wounded, were cannon fodder for oil industry profit. Expendable. Cast aside. Ignored by VA. Treated like garbage. The usual.
The Taliban were formed in Pakistan. The name means Students of Islam. They weren't fighters, but more so traditional Jesuits venturing abroad to bring the word of 'god'. Their god. The US and UK seized the opportunity to exploit them for economic and political ends. Out of the Taliban arose what are called Al-Qaida, which are really the old mujahedeen, and then Islamic State, the ultimate nihilist doomsday cultists. All creatures of the perpetual war-driven US and UK, and also France and Germany.
These US soldiers are as much victims as their opponent, paying an enormous psychological price for their ordeal. Had the region of conflict been anywhere else, the local residents would fight back with whatever they had. Just as if some armed brigade tried to invade the US. Americans would muster up whatever they could to fight back. In this Sebastian Junger's talks and documentaries he portrays these US kids as good and the Afghans as evil. No Afghan played any part in 9/11.